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>> No.19631001
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first for cunny

>> No.19631011
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BULL

>> No.19631018

I put all of my hopes and dreams in IVR, too late to buy anything else. The one last, big company that didn't fully V-shape recover yet.

>> No.19631020
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Where is my premarket anon with a premarket update???

>> No.19631024

>>19631018
Should I buy some too? I’m new here

>> No.19631032

futures under heavy opposition

>> No.19631034
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First for anime

>> No.19631041

>>19631011
Boi

>> No.19631045
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>>19631032
I thought we called this part "consolidation" ?

>> No.19631046

>>19631024
Do your homework. Most of the US market did a V-shape already, but there are some big companies out there that are about to do that. Every day brings us closer to ending the lockdown, every day brings us closer to the economy restart.
I wouldn't bother with any share that's almost ATH again, but check out the oil, airlines, weed, real estate and fashion (except Nike). They're all still pretty low, they will pump in the next 2 months. Then we'll see.

>> No.19631049

>>19631020
MFA Financial now in first place with +10%. Leader of the laggards is Chesapeake with -4.4%. Lots of shifting around early.

>> No.19631061
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>>19631001
>>19631011

>> No.19631082
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>doomer retards so desperate for a disaster that they've begun to spout the "second wave" meme

>> No.19631086

>>19631023
your "math" relies on 100% of Americans getting it, and relies on the idea that almost nobody has gotten the virus other than those who were tested for it. My sister was sick, got tested, and was positive for covid. She lives in the house with 6 of us. We didn't bother getting tested since we knew if she lives with us, there's no chance we didn't get it, so no point in quarantining her from the rest of us. My mom got the sniffles and felt sore for around a day. Nobody else felt anything. Maybe you can argue I was coughing slightly more in a day. You can find stories like that all over the place where a family member got diagnosed with it, and nobody else in the household felt anything.

>> No.19631115

>>19630993
What are some good call and put options
Tomorrow

>> No.19631118

IVR in liftoff formation

>> No.19631123
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>>19631086
as long as your sister didn't cough in your mouths, maybe no one else got it?
I assume that you all sleep in separate beds and use separate bathrooms?
I'm not a doctor though

>> No.19631127

>>19630993
Hello which broker should i use if im eastern european? :S Ameritrade, Fidelity Schwab or?

>> No.19631134

>>19631123
>as long as your sister didn't cough in your mouths, maybe no one else got it?

If it took coughing in someones mouth to get it, hardly anyone would have it.

>> No.19631136
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19631136

>United States 10-Year Bond Yield
> 0.802
>-0.027 (-3.23%)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I DON'T LIKE IT!!!
>>19631049
I take it you don't have ZoomInfo on your watchlist?

>>19631001
based but get that 3dpd out of here, clarice

>>19631004
kek
you make this one?
I believe they sell discount merchandise... for maybe 5 below regular price

>> No.19631150

>>19631127
Interactive Brokers

>> No.19631156

IVR 11%. God I'm feeling smug.

>> No.19631157

>>19631136
>ZoomInfo
Just checked. Marketwatch is showing ZI at +9% in premarket.

>> No.19631158

>>19631118
You have high hopes?

>> No.19631163
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morning frens

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>>19631163
morning

>> No.19631179
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GOD DAMNIT

>> No.19631182
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am i gonna make it this time with IVR?

>> No.19631184

>>19631158
not on IVR honestly, but i do on CORR.
i'm rooting for MITT cause i need to close some puts i wrote yesterday.
the fundamentals for the REIT's are solid, most have a price to book of like .20x to .40x and are almost 70% down from where they were in december.
also all got earnings coming up, MITT on the 12th before market

>> No.19631186

>>19631156
Bought about $17,000 almost a month ago. I only wish I bought more. It's a race to the dividends now, after that there should be a dump due to all the new shares received as a dividend payment.

>> No.19631199

nkla at 80 PM....i thought people would finally realize that its not a real company?

>> No.19631202
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9 hours to go
the fedwatch probability crept up by another 1.5% while I was sleeping

>> No.19631204

big selloff on SSL

>> No.19631212

>>19631150
It was the cheapest broker for active traders before the no fee war. Ibkr lite is 0 fee. Ibkr pro is $1 per trade and it costs you 10$/month of inactivity fees (whether you make 0 trade or 10 trades per month it will cost you 10$) Lowest margin interest. Free API access. FDIC/SIPC.

>> No.19631213
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Isn’t the Fed making some announcement today?

>> No.19631227
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>>19631032
Fed statement coming out this morning after the bell. If market is going to leg up it will probably be during that release.

>> No.19631237

>>19631227

I thought the fed statement was at 2pm?

>> No.19631243
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>>19631199
nah it'll continue to pump while the hype is good before the dump. And let's be clear here, that thing is a capital P and D.

>>19631237
Oh, okay. Is that EST?

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>>19631237
>>19631243
>>19631213
if only there was some place with an FOMC countdown...

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>> No.19631254

>>19631212
I know, I'm european and using them. The trade fee is deducted from your monthly, so 10 trades a month removes the fee. Option combos like buying 100 shares combined with selling a call are $2.90 so it's even easier to reach the $10 fee.

Just their UI looks dated but it's alright to use. Not that good for marketdata though.

>> No.19631264

what are you guys buying for the fed announcement? i think they will just announce continued interest rate levels and extension on QE so probably bullish for all the shitty bankrupt companies and those debt ETFs

>> No.19631268

>>19630801
Sweden is fine, some old and sickly people died, but the economy didn't had a pause
> died
You speak like you think it is over. The mechanics of this virus is hugely easy to understand and predict.
1.2% of infected will die. The virus will keep spreading until it infects almost all of the population or we find a vaccine. When it has infected nearly all of the population, nearly 1.2% of the population will have died. 25% of the dead will be under 65 years old and 75% will be over.
Places that did lockdowns brought R0 down under 1, meaning actual decline. Sweden did social distancing but no lockdowns and got R0 down to 1, linear growth. But that only held for so long, since last week they are back to R0 > 1, exponential growth.
It’s very simple. The actual IFR has been known for weeks now, it’s around 1.2%-1.4% depending on demographics. This means, unambiguously, that 1.2% of infected will die. 1.2% of Sweden’s population. 1.2% of the American population. 1.2% of the world’s population. But what if only 50% get infected, then only 0.6% of the world pop dies! Yup, but with an unmitigated R0 between 2 and 3 and the world running out of money for lockdowns, this virus may well infect everyone before herd immunity has a chance to kick in, at least it’s likely that >80% will be infected. So about 1% of the population in every country in the world will die from covid.
Don’t reply that I’m an idiot unless you have solid proof to back you up.

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>>19631199
I doubt they have a working model even. It would be like some company coming out with a:

>Hondaa Civik

Zero chance I would buy

>> No.19631278

>>19631213
BRRRRRRRRRRRRR - The market will not be allowed to collapse before the elections.

This might be the last moment you can buy IVR below $6, at least for the next 12 years.

>> No.19631284

>>19631156
It's very likely to dump at open. Too many weak hands just now learning what share dilution means.

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Reeeeeee I was thinking we'd get 1 more dump day. Than i learned the fed was annoucing stuff tomorrow and figured Id jump in before the meeting with the remainder. And now stuff seems to be going up premarket!? I cant evem buy calls premarket/after hours.

Scale 1 to 10.

What are the odds I missed the cheapies? This is the second time I did this too. I waited 1 day too long last week or the week before and missed out on cheapies.

>> No.19631290

>>19631001
What is cunny?

>> No.19631294
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>we live on a flat earth

>therefore GLOBEal warming doesnt exist

>billion dollar meme industry of zero emission electric cars based on "global warming"

>> No.19631297

>>19631278
I won’t have money in my bank account til sometime today. Any chance to buy IVR today at a decent price?

>> No.19631303

>>19631268
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you let your soft side rule over you. Let them die, viruses are a natural part of life on Earth. I don't think that saving those who are very old or very sick is more important than the future of the young who will have to pay high taxes for the next 10 years because of this lockdown.

>> No.19631308

>>19631237
2pm est...

I may have a chance for cheapies if the fear sentiment stays for at least a few hours premarket.

>> No.19631314

>>19631284
Share dilution means that it will never ever again reach the previous ATH no matter what? If not, then selling right now is a mistake. At least let ti bounce back to $15.

>> No.19631317

What’s with this fucking IVR meme it’s all anyone is talking about.

>> No.19631320
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>>19631285
relax bro, i'll answer your question
>What are the odds I missed the cheapies?
if you didn't go all in at spy 220 then you missed the greatest dip of the century.
until the second wave in august

>> No.19631322
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>>19631317
idk i might buy some cuz im fucking bored even though i dont want the dividends

>> No.19631336

>>19631317
You know how almost all the big and profitable businesses on the market have already recovered from the Corona Dip? There is still a handful out there that didn't perhaps waiting for lesser and lesser restrictions and the end of lockdown. IVR is one of these companies, high hope that it can jump back to at least 80% of what it was in February. What else is there to buy? Everything already recovered, some even established the new All Time Highs. Last hope for +100% is oil, airlines, real estate and fashion retailers.

>> No.19631341

>>19631314
You do realize that they had to sell off the vast majority of their assets due to margin calls when COVID hit, right? This company WAS worth $15-$17 when they had ALL those assets, now they are 10% as big as they were. That is why the price target is in the $2-$3 range. All that said, I think they can and will rebuild but 3 months is way to hopeful and the only thing the last 5 years says about this company is that they USED to be worth a bunch and now...they aren't. I have a long position in IVR, but have definitely made some money by avg down on this stock in the past 45 days.

>> No.19631347

>>19631303
And I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m not advocating policy. I’m interested in getting a real discussion going on /smg/ regarding what will be the actual market reaction to these numbers (once they dawn on retail), once the math challenged Chads have come around to realize that 3-4 million dead /will/ be the reality and stop disrupting with invectives born from insecurities about the soundness of their investments.

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> SSL PLUMMETING

W-why?

>> No.19631355

>>19631341
Thanks, then I'm not selling. I know these guys can bounce back, even if I have to wait a year or two.

>> No.19631360

>>19631294
Global warming is indeed a (((scam))), however electric cars are still pretty cool if for no reason than how well they accelerate. 0-60 in 2 point something seconds is a lot of fun

>> No.19631362

>>19631297
I think the market will see green today. Since everyone already in ivr isn't going to sell it now it won't drop further. People will scoop it up at the low price just like they did on monday and with what looks like good news incoming they'll be less afraid of going in. It did the same pop and drop yesterday but the starting price was higher and the market was overall red so it only hit 7.3 instead of 8. It'll probably be a repeat of monday. Nice pop when everyone buys it early, drop off when it hits peak at around 7.5-8. And settle at around 6.5 or higher since the jump would give people more confidence in it.

>> No.19631367

>>19631349
fuck man...sucks. thank god i got out at -8%

>> No.19631378
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How do I profit off Black Lives Matter?

>> No.19631391
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Somebody paid $21.20 for a $5c 6/19 DGLY.
The stock peaked at $6.70.

>> No.19631393

>>19631378
Weapons and private prisons.

>> No.19631398
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FUTURES JUST TANKED

>> No.19631400

UHHH ITS RED

>> No.19631402

>>19631355
1) Book Value doesn't work the way you seem to think it works. Yes it actually matters.

2) Their income source is fromt heir MBS portfolio, which dropped from 21 billion to 1.6 billion. Without that portfolio it is mathematically and physically impossible for them to make the kind of money they used to. In order to do that, they'd need to raise at least $10-15 billion and that money won't come for free and that size of a portfolio certainly can't be rebuilt in short period of time even with money.

Where do you propose they get that $10 billion from?

If you want to call yourself an investor, do some homework. The mere act of holding something without understanding it doens't make you an investor, that's still gambling.

>> No.19631404

>>19631314
If they can keep their dividend stable at 50 cents once businesses open up it doesnt look impossible to reach former aths. Look at it this way if it was at $10, the annual return you'd get from the dividend is $2 a 20% return in 1 year. However freaking 4chan and reddit shilled one of my secret choices and now it's wildly flailing and I didnt get to buy more for sub $3.

>> No.19631409

>>19631398
GET OUT OF THE MARKET, RIGHT NOW. INSIDERS SELL, THEY KNOW THE TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT ALREADY

>> No.19631410
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FUTURES NOW RED FROM +0.50% IN A MATTER OF MINUTES

>> No.19631430

>>19631393
> weapons and prisons

short or long tho. One force is defunded already

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>>19631410

>> No.19631441

Well this aged poorly >>19631156

These are the facts >>19631402

>> No.19631443

>>19631409
its too late

>> No.19631444

>>19631410
potus's panama traders getting in on the deal early.

>> No.19631445

It feels good to be a bobo, I knew that the baby bear in my dream meant something, so glad I cashed out yesterday

>> No.19631449

>>19631086
I’ll assume you’re intellectually honest and is interested in learning about when you are wrong.
My math relies on the favt that widespread, random sample serology studies have now been done with new and better antibody tests, so we now know what percentage of the population have been infected without relying on anecdotes like yours (that until recently were still about as good a data point as any).
The best such study was done in Spain, 5% of the population were infected and with the number of dead at the time that meant 1.2% of the infected had died. This IFR of 1.2% has been consistent when other studies have been done with the reliable tests.
So the math is extremely simple: 1.2% of infected will die. That means the only factor determining how close to 1.2% of the population that will die in covid is how big a % of the population gets infected. If 100% get infected, 1.2% will die. If 50% of the population gets infected, 0.6% will die. With the rate covid spreads, >80% infected population will be likely, which means about 1% of the population, or 3.3 million Americans, will die from covid.

>> No.19631453

>>19631404
how many shares did you get on IVR? i don't think its any secret for long term investors to buy in companies that were down from covid for cheap. plus most of the market is own by institutions not reddit/4chan so them shilling IVR is not really a big deal

>> No.19631455

>>19631430
Long.

>> No.19631467

>>19631449
You’re not factoring the Virus being less lethal over time and a bunch of other shit.

>> No.19631470

WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.19631473

>a month's worth of gains wiped out
What the fuck? Fed done printing?

>> No.19631477

Whats the short term consensus on oil? dump all week?

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>>19631402
>>19631441
You need to understand:
most of the people investing in these companies are just looking at the chart of share price and saying, "well, it will go back up to January levels eventually".
You should let them learn their lessons the hard way. In the long run, it's for the best.

>> No.19631482

>>19631445
You will cry before the day is over Bobo.
Bulls run this market.

>> No.19631492

>stuff from my watchlist going up in PM aside of CPE which I sold yesterday for 2-2.10s
I know PM is not that much of an indicator but I hope this keeps up. May buy some CPE back.

>> No.19631494

>>19631134
No you probably indeed all had it, most people do get a sniffle if that - again, only 1.2% die, it’s just that 1.2% of 330 million is 4 million (and 80% * 1.2% * 330 million is about 3.3 million, assuming 80% infected pop)

>> No.19631495

AHHHHHHHH

>> No.19631496
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>S&P futures returned to green already

wow, that was a close one
we did it boys. we survived the great stock market crash of June 10th (futures)

>> No.19631500

>>19631496
When do you start taking estrogen?

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brb, kms

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>>19631398
>>19631400
i can explain why
i bought calls

>> No.19631506

I'm financially ruined

>> No.19631508

>>19631496
I’m going to marry that girl one of these days

>> No.19631510
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good morning cunnybros

>> No.19631515 [DELETED] 

>>19631441
Is there a reason youre mad about this stock? You're like the second anon going off about it.

t. Bought most of my shares sub $3.

>> No.19631518

I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED WHY ARE THE FUTURES RED

>> No.19631526

>>19631494
but that 1.2% number is high for two reasons:
1. because this thing already ransacked all of the nursing homes, leaving them with high numbers of dead (>50% of individual nursing homes, in some cases)
2. a huge number of "normal" deaths being counted as 'ronavirus caused

most of the proper medical death estimates are rates significantly under 1%

>> No.19631535

>>19631268

this guy gets it

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Since this is tribal trading time, do 'they' know something we don't? Mainly what the Fed will announce today.

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>nothing but green the past week
>freak out after a little red

This semen slurping general isn't for me.

>> No.19631540

>>19631479
And then we have scam companies that didn't produced a single thing and their shares are already in the top brackets. It's a clown market, investors are a tiny percentage of it. Robinhood kids will pump these low charts thinking exactly that, the companies will get a boost that will help them restart and in the end everyone will be in the green.

Let's establish one thing, if you bought IVR 2 weeks ago, you will be in green for sure, no matter what happens with the market in the next month/year. The question is: just how greedy you are. I can just hold, or gamble as you said, and I'll still make a profit. IVR is just so low it would be difficult not to. Sure it may dip a few times, but if I sell everything I have in August, I'll cash out more than I've put in.

>> No.19631546

>>19631494
It's way below 1.2%, and the number of people infected will be well below 80% of the US. The measles infection rate had an R-naught of 12 and wasn't even close to infecting 80% of the population.

>> No.19631551

>>19631539
Calm down. I’m not freaking out nigger

>> No.19631562

JPOW WILL NOT SPEAK ON A RED DAY

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>>19631508
it's a drawing
it's a drawing that is already married to another drawing

>>19631540
you sound like an expert, I'll let you do your thing
;^)

>> No.19631571

>>19631453
A decent chunk but I should say this. Due to changes to their business in march I have no idea how long they can sustain a 50 cent dividend. I bought stocks cheap enough that holding isnt an issue should i desire to keep the shares. The fomoers who got in last week on the pump will likely flee if it dumps or fomo in if it pumps. So take that with a grain of salt.

>> No.19631575

>>19631467
> You’re not factoring the Virus being less lethal over time
I am. It’s the only hope I see for the long run, because I don’t think we’ll find a vaccine and I’m well versed in evolutionary biology so I know it is almost inevitable due to selection pressures favoring replicative prowess but not lethality, but I also know that will take a much longer time than for the virus to infect most of the population. I mean, I think >3 million dead Americans is enough by itself to warrant discussion of its potential impact, but the reality of it is in fact rather worse, as the virus is probably going to be endemic and just cull a few million Americans per year from now on until the virus does degrade in lethality like you say (or we find a virus, which seem ever less likely, especially since people won’t buy it if they declare they don’t care about granny and not to mention bill gates is the devil and wants to put microchips in everyone).
> and a bunch of other shit.
Such as?

>> No.19631582

>>19631562
Or he will announce a rate hike and that's why we're seeing red...

>> No.19631586

>>19631001
Based

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cunnilingus > fingering

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>>19631582
Good god, man! The very thought!!!

>> No.19631597

>>19631582
yeah i think a substantial rate hike is going to happen today

>> No.19631596

>>19631582
That aint happening

>> No.19631600

>>19631582
no way in hell he announces rate hikes, there's still too much up in the air and he needs flexibility to handle any liquidity issues as we feel out the opening and get the data.
if he announces rate hikes trump will personally fuck his eye sockets on live television

>> No.19631610

>>19631582
What if he announces negative interest rates? Say -1%?

>> No.19631613

>>19631610
ATH before Friday on everything, gold $5000 an ounce today.

>> No.19631616

>>19631610
I hope so. The Brazilification of this country can't come soon enough.

>> No.19631626
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we when we green candle

>> No.19631627
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>S&P futures went back negative

>> No.19631636

>>19631526
Ransacking homes for the elderly doesn’t matter, the virus infected a representative set of the population in different countries. As long as a representative set of a population is infected (all of the population would be an example of such a set) 1.2% of that set will die. If you take a set with twice as many old people as in the general population, the IFR in that set will be higher than 1.2%. And it’s not like we’re running out of old people such that the demographics are shifting and the IFR goes down accordingly. That might start to become noticable several culls from now.
> medical pros say lower than 1% IFR
They did about a month ago, when the first, faulty serology studies came out. They don’t anymore.

>> No.19631641

>>19631184
is there a website that aggregates searchable earnings for the various Tickers?

>> No.19631642

>>19631610
TSLA will go to $1,400 in minutes

>> No.19631645

the more anime gets posted the more likely it is that we will have a red day

>> No.19631649
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the bogs are sending a message to JPow:
announce negative interest rates or they dump the whole system

>> No.19631651

>>19631645
So all we bears have to do is post anime?

>> No.19631654

>>19631651
Don't stoop to their level

>> No.19631655
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19631655

>hegde your investments
>both your hedge and your initial investment drop at once
well that seemed smart

>> No.19631658

>>19631641
any broker worth their salt will have an earnings calendar.
also google "earnings whispers"

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>>19631349
i told you not to invest in south africa anon but you didnt listen

>> No.19631660

ivr is dropping bros...

>> No.19631665

Why’s NIO going back up? I thought it was going back to the 5$ range

>> No.19631666
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>>19631645
green day please

>> No.19631670

>>19631349
SOUTH

FUCKING

AFRICA

YOU

FAGGOT

>> No.19631671

>>19631659
I can't be fucked to research does anyone know who runs SSL? Is it some african/chinese venture?

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>>19631660
hopefully it doesn't take the rest of the REIT's with it. my MITT still has its head held high

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>>19631649

>> No.19631685
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>S&P futures back to neutral

>> No.19631687

>>19631570
I don't think that someone who posts Anime girls can be a real investor, or even an educated person. Tho you've convinced me to read more about the latest Invesco news, I'm still convinced that holding this position will afford me a Tesla Cybertruck.

>> No.19631693

Is PLUG a buy?

>> No.19631698

Alright Im going to bed.

What time is Powell talking?

>> No.19631701

>>19631660
So that's it then, it's all over. Had a nice gamble, made some decent 30% in a month, but now it's time to get out.

>> No.19631705

>>19631698
2pm

>> No.19631706

>>19631698
around noon

>> No.19631708

>>19631546
> It's way below 1.2%,
It will not, it is already known, the statistics are very clear and easy to verify.

> and the number of people infected will be well below 80% of the US.
It will not, assuming resistance to new lockdowns. The R0 is already proven to be very high.

> The measles infection rate had an R-naught of 12 and wasn't even close to infecting 80% of the population
R0 of 12 in certain conditions, not in the whole population for a population that has been exposed to it for hundreds of years. SARS2 is a new pathogen. It will spread exponentially until everyone has had it, or close enough for herd immunity to kick in.

>> No.19631714

>>19631701
You mean buy some IVR calls?

>> No.19631716
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>>19631582
No, what you're seeing is people jockeying around for position leading in to it. There will be no clarification on direction until Fed statement is released. Basically none of this matters until then. If it's expected news, market will probably resume bullish trend for a bit. Bad news and everybody throws a hissy fit to the tune of plural percent down.

>> No.19631725

>>19631708
Nobody is buying it anymore

Fuck off

>> No.19631728

>>19631587
BIG FUCKING FACTS

>> No.19631731
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anyone know the reason for yesterdays dump? did the market just feel like experience a red day again ?

>> No.19631735
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19631735

Guys, we should head to bed and wake up until Powell talks.

There's really nothing else to do until then

>> No.19631736

Im buying KO WM PFE and BRK.B 30 minutes after open. I though you all should know.

>> No.19631746

>>19631731
bad numbers out of germany triggered a selloff premarket yesterday which prompted a selloff through the day

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>>19631736
As a large shareholder of KO, relative to my portfolio allocations, i approve and encourage this plan.

>> No.19631754

oh shit CORR might be drillin
bid down to 12.65

>> No.19631758

>>19631725
Lol still not a single reference to a study or any math from the ”just a flu” bros. You have nothing. Zero evidence to back up your view, other than a strong feeling that you want to go outside, that math is boring and that your poor attention span has been stretched to its limit.

>> No.19631760

>>19631731
Big nose tribe taking advantage of newbie influx

>> No.19631761

Wow NIO how is nobody ever mentioning this in these

>> No.19631762

>>19631708
>the statistics are very clear and easy to verify
all the stats are counting a huge proportion of the elderly who died in the past few months as ronavirus deaths, even if they never tested positive for it.
also it's interesting that you see that infection rates can change from place to place but you're also convinced that mortality rate is some sort of a priori fixed number that has been handed down to you by the 'experts' and can't be wrong.


>>19631735
it's awake coffee time
the time for sleep was last night

>> No.19631766

>>19631587
enjoy your throat cancer. hope putting your face in the fishy flesh wound was worth it.

>> No.19631779
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I'd like to remind everyone that IVR and the REITS only STARTED recovering 5 days ago. They've only been increasing in gains for under a week.
If we have a few more decent green days the REIT train is leaving for the station moonbase.

>> No.19631784

>>19631708

>It will not, it is already known, the statistics are very clear and easy to verify.

That's not even close to being true.

>It will not, assuming resistance to new lockdowns. The R0 is already proven to be very high.

Except many parts of the world had different lockdown conditions, and there is little correlation to how infectious the virus was depending on the severity of lockdown. Not to mention the recent news that the virus is MUCH less transmissible than they thought in asymptomatic people, which most people are, thus reducing the R value.


>R0 of 12 in certain conditions, not in the whole population for a population that has been exposed to it for hundreds of years

You're right, it's not 12, it's range is 12-18.

>> No.19631785

>>19631736
WLL dropped 35-40% since yesterday. Its an oil penny stock.

If the fed announcement goes well, it'll moon

>> No.19631786

>>19631758
Bro. That's lame. Stop harshing the vibe, bro. We're all having a good time here.

>> No.19631787

>>19631761
are APR's gonna get swept up when they start delisting chinese companies?

>> No.19631792

>buy a bit before lunch
>literally in the next seconds after I bought massive global dump begins
Ahem

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.19631793

>>19631787
ADR**

>> No.19631794

>>19631766
I doubt eating pussy gives you throat cancer

>> No.19631805

>>19631748
cute girl anon

>> No.19631812

>>19631758
We're happy for you that you've found something to crusade about. Go do it in /cvg/ or in a BLM riot or whatever. We've moved on.

>> No.19631823

>>19631779
Should I buy some risky IVR calls this morning?

>> No.19631826

WHY IS EVERYTHING DRILING EXCEPT FOR FUCKING NKLA. its at 82 for the past hour

>> No.19631832

>>19631785
Should take a look at DOFSQ. They declared Chapter 11 like WLL, but not many people know about them, and they only recently started mooning. Yesterdays drop put them .52 with a 52week low of around .20. For comparison WLL is currently hovering around $2/share with a low of .30. I suspect it will moon when people realize they're undervalued right now compared to other small player oil stocks.

>> No.19631845

>>19631823
All depends on what you think Powell will say.

>> No.19631850

>>19631832
Is this a joke?

>> No.19631852

>>19631786
You’ll have a better time if you sell the top and buy the next bottom. But I don’t know if that will happen. What I know will happen is millions of dead Americans, the question is if this will cause a crash or not, which is what I’m hoping to discuss. You’d think that would be a relevant topic for a finance board.
I’m not trying to harsh the vibe. 3 million dead doesn’t harsh my vibe too much, but missing the next crash would.
I’m not a doomer, we’ll survive covid, but how much will it impact the market? 0%? -30%? -60% +1000%?

>> No.19631862

>>19631850
No? Why would you think its a joke

>> No.19631869

>>19631766
>fishy flesh wound
Lol faggot

>> No.19631877

>>19631862
>They declared Chapter 11...

>> No.19631878
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IVR will never go back to 15 but will i make my money back if I hodl
t. 6.43

>> No.19631889

>>19631845
He’s not gonna spook the market. If the Dow tanks, business owners will freak and unemployment could spiral out of control.

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>>19631852
You gotta chill out and stop being an L 7 square, dude.

>> No.19631896

>>19631878
the time lost will outweigh breaking even eventually, learn to keep time and cash in the same mental account

>> No.19631905

>>19631878
You will be fine. You might not make money today, but sometime in the near future

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>>19631852
>What I know will happen is millions of dead Americans

Georgia was the earliest state to end lockdown, ending it April 22nd. Stop fear mongering with your garbage. Theres no OBSERVABLE evidence that what you say will be the case, with lockdown or no lockdown.

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MITT please....
save me from the shadow

>> No.19631922

>>19631156
>>19631049
Where you guys seeing these at. Robinmeme usually keeps the after hours price movements pretty updated but today it's not showing much change for me?

>> No.19631926

>>19631878
You can either sell today at a loss and try to invest into something else, hoping it will get you your money back. You can also hold and get your money back somewhere in the future, maybe even 2020. The choice is up to you, Anon.

>> No.19631933

>>19631878
yeah in the long term but judging by your post you're looking for short term big gains. get out while its good and hop on another train. there plenty opportunities out there man.

>> No.19631935

>>19631877
And? Chapter 11 involves reorganization of debt. As I said, WLL, the oil company that also filed for CH11, is sitting at 7X their low, while DOFSQ is sitting at 2.5X their low. HTZ also declared CH11 and they were 16X their low a few days ago.

>> No.19631937

>>19631823
MITT, MFA and IVR already pumped hard so a retrace it more likely even on a green day. There are a lot of reits out there and it makes a lot of sense to spread out between them as a sector bet. I sold some off the top of those 3 on friday and bought more NRZ, NYMT, RWT, TWO, and TRX.

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here comes the freefall to 3190
i can't watch

>> No.19631958

>https://www.strawpoll.me/20311436
https://www.strawpoll.me/20311436
>https://www.strawpoll.me/20311436
https://www.strawpoll.me/20311436
>https://www.strawpoll.me/20311436
https://www.strawpoll.me/20311436
how poor are /smg/ anons?

>> No.19631959

>>19631852
Look at a chart of the Dow. The market is in recovery. The wuhan cold is a joke. Sorry if you don't want to hear that. There are riots where you're immune to infection as long as you're protesting white people, maybe go make a big sign and join them? You'll reach more people that way.

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I kissed this money goodbye the day I placed it in the market. I hold until bigger green. My only regret is that I have no more funds to give for $9 sasol.

>> No.19631969
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its another red day

>> No.19631972

>>19631955
fuck it i got paid today, the more red the more i can buy. i'm watching my reit drop and idgaf i'm just going to buy more of it.

>> No.19631979

I think the best thing I can do right now is to avoid /biz/ and the charts for a week or two. No need to get myself more depressed with IVR.
Fucking anchoring got me, I was SURE it's going back to $18 in August. Now it feels like they're about to go bankrupt.

>> No.19631982

>>19631959
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS GOING TO KILL EVERYONE

STAY INSIDE!!!

>> No.19631983

>>19631812
Sure, it seems like I’m crusading because I keep having to repeat facts, since /smg/ is almost entirely unable to understand math and statistics. But you do understand the stock market (better than I at least) and that’s why I want to get it through your thick skulls that millions of dead Americans /will/ happen and then tap your brains on what this will mean for the stonks.
Ffs, if you think that millions of dead will have an impact that has not been priced in then making a big, winning move based on inevitable biological reality and math has never been easier. /smg/ should be all over this. Let the braindead permabulls at wsb stand like idiots with their pants down when the second wave hits and the market (maybe?) crashes, while /smg/ stand like kings atop the smouldering ruins, cash in hand and ready to buy.

>> No.19631992

>>19631136
fukken BASED pic

>> No.19631994

>>19631937
*TRTX

>> No.19631996

>>19631979
stop buying dumb fucking memes that retarded anime shitters tell you to buy

>> No.19631998

snib snab

>> No.19632000

>>19631979
learn to do fundamental analysis

>> No.19632011

>>19631979
Judging by jc penny and hertz. Bankruptcy is a bottom shoot with a moon mission afterwards tho

>> No.19632014
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>airlines about to get ass raped AGAIN
>dow futures fucked in general

>> No.19632028
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>>19631998
>mfw I bought QQQX, SPXX, and gold&silver miners just in time for crabzone

>>19631983
you think a million people are going to die any time soon? or just slowly over time, over the next couple of decades? that's just the flu bro. it doesn't mean anything for stocks

>> No.19632030

>>19631996
>>19632000
too fucking late now

>> No.19632043

>>19631996
The shilling was very hard, not only on /biz/. I honestly didn't saw it coming, now it's just an obvious and organized pump and dump to get the top fishes out.
>>19632000
I'm not an investor, 99% of the market is just like me. I see low that was high not so long ago, I buy. I had no idea about dividends in shares and the asset selloff. I'm "only" down 3% because I've bought at the low dip, but I was $17,000 in so it hurts a bit.
It is done now, I'm out. I will market sell at the opening.

>> No.19632047

>>19631959
> Look at a chart of the Dow. The market is in recovery. The wuhan cold is a joke. Sorry if you don't want to hear that
But I do, I really do, it would be great for the vast majority of my wealth that I stand to inherit. But I would love it even more if you could back that up with actual facts about the virus (not about the dow, which can’t really tell us what the virus will do unlike biology and math). Or if I misunderstood and your position isvthat yes, there will be million dead, but look at the charts the market don’t care, then I’m very interested in that perspective and would love any more details you could share on why you think the market has already figured out and priced in millions of dead.

>> No.19632050

>>19631983
Anyone who can't take vitamin D3 and liposomal c is probably a net drain anyways. The wuhan cold is bullish. Always has been. But the meme cold is over, Fauci is forgotten, no one cares anymore. I'm sorry that this offends you.

>> No.19632052

>>19631935
Hold until next year. Post P/L then.

>> No.19632062

Ahhh SSL chad what do we do ahhhhhh!

lol

What level do you guys think it will stabilize at?

>> No.19632070

>>19632043
>I'm not an investor
you should at least be able to tell if a company is going to go bankrupt or not lmao.
IVR, MITT, or CORR are not going to go bankrupt

>> No.19632073

>>19631786
Fuck off you faggot nigger

>> No.19632078

>>19631958
who are the anons with less than 5k?
are you zoomers or did you lose it on puts?
very curious.

>> No.19632079

>>19631746
what were those numbers?

>> No.19632084

>>19631182
You will die destitute and alone.

>> No.19632086

>>19632062
I'm praying my other holdings go up but it stays below 10. Here I was cursing JP Morgan but apparently their decision was taken as a bear sign kek

>> No.19632094

>>19631965
Went long for SSL at 10.50, I'm currently looking to get out at $9.
I have lost so much money.

>> No.19632097

>>19632079
i think it was GDP they missed hard, overall production as well as imports and exports were all way off in a bad way.
don't know the percentages off the top of my head tho

>> No.19632099

>>19632014
imagine its breaking below 27k...there is a nice gap down to ~26.6k

>> No.19632101

>>19632078
zoomer here
just started my career, money doesn't appear out of nowhere

>> No.19632102

>>19632070
But they're not going back to $18 a share ever again either. I only bought hoping that I can dump my bags at $15 and call it a day. But they're going back to $2 and they're going to stay there for 5 fucking years. If they sold their asset, they're not going to just buy everything back in a year. It's over, it's fucking over.

>> No.19632106

THIS IS BULLSHIT. CANT GET OUT OF MY POSITIONS FOR ANOTHER 3 HOURS

>> No.19632109
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show me your portfolio cunny lickers

>> No.19632114

>>19632106
Yeah. The market is closed.

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>>19632109
thats a fetish

oral sex is not natural

>> No.19632128

>>19632078
i have shit to do because of the lockdown, started with 300 now have 1200 up and down, lowest is 980

i could put more in, but i kind of like seeing how much i can make off a little bit

>> No.19632130

>>19632117
That's a fetish.

Nothing about that bug is natural.

>> No.19632133

>>19632117
this is one of roger's less convincing disguises

>> No.19632146

>>19632106
Imagine being unable to trade premarket lol

>> No.19632147

>>19632062
SSL BROS BUY ALL DIPS

>> No.19632153

>OXY and SSL crashing
Glad I exited oil early.

>> No.19632154

>>19632133
HAHAH!

>> No.19632156

>>19632028
No I mean soon, like inside a year. Indeed, if covid killed 1.2% of the population but over a decade it would indeed be only about 5 times worse than the flu. Thank you for calling that out, it needs to be specified.
Another way to sanity check the math is to conclude that a 1.2% IFR is about 10x worse (12x really) than the flu, and that covid spreads about 3-5 times faster than the flu, so that means covid should kill about 10 * 3 to 10 * 5 more people than the flu, which in a bad year (0.1% IFR) kills about 66k Americans, so 66k * 30 = 1,980,000 to 66k * 50 = 3,300,000 dead Americans. The math checks out.

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>>19632130
based gook hater

>> No.19632166

>>19632078
I'm 28 but I didn't want my tax money going to fund abortions so I made it a point to earn so little that I got nearly all of it back as a refund thanks to socialist tax brackets, making just enough to support myself. Then Trump got elected and finally, recently, managed to defund it at least temporarily. But my mother died suddenly a few years ago and this last half year since the defund I haven't been able to motivate myself to start my business. I might wait to see if he gets reelected and the Republicans get at least one supermajority before going through with the business. I just hate knowing that I'm funding the killing of human beings who still never even have a chance to run, fight back, or even be conscious that they ever existed. Everyone's so busy screaming about goofy Christians and evil strawmen who want control over women's bodies that they've forgotten basics like empathy and it not being a doctor's place to kill another of their species

>> No.19632176

>>19632094
I will try to free up some money so you can sell to me anon and realize that two day loss

>> No.19632178

>>19632078
Millennial here. Almost 3k. Have a pension and annuity as a retirement for work. Was wanting to start a IRA to save more but this seems way funner. Never really knew much about stock market or anything until I was laid off and bored for covid. Trying to put a minimum 100$ a week in.

>> No.19632179

>>19632117
it's a kind of foreplay
sex requires some form of penetration to be involved

>> No.19632182

>>19632078
Im a student, the only jobs i've had are low wage unprofessional work, i have about 5k in savings which is more then most uk uni students. it does feel bad being 22 and not having more then that though.

>> No.19632185

SSL guys, we holding?

>> No.19632186

>>19632179
>foreplay

ok boomer

thats gross

i wouldnt touch a vagina with my mouth with a 10 ft pole

>> No.19632190

>>19632185
dont think so. OPEC meeting was just another extension. It wont be going up at least for another month

>> No.19632191

>>19632186
nice reddit spacing faggot

>> No.19632196
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God, I'm so fucking depressed. I felt so smug a week ago, thinking I'm buying the dip of all these companies, but now everything is crashing down again. Looks like we're going to have a second dip and I don't know what to do.
Sell now at a loss and buy that dip, or just hold and wait 7 years for the economy to bounce back.
I feel like shit, the weather makes me feel even worse and I'm just losing everything to IVR pump and dump shilling.
There is no hope, I will never make it. Even when the market crashes, I still lose to the crooked nose tribe. I don't know what to do anymore.
I want out.

>> No.19632198

>>19632185
>>19632185
>>19632185

HODL

>> No.19632203

>>19632166
Imagine using the excuse to be poor by blaming it on abortions and blacks. Wow. Is anyone else reading this shit. And you are 28. Goodness

>> No.19632207

>>19632185
No "we" are selling (to me) on Friday

>> No.19632212
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imagine being this desperate to lose $16,440

>> No.19632213

>>19632050
The only thing that offends me is when /biz/raelis can’t do logic or math.
Premises:
1) IFR=1.2%
2) R0 = 2-3 without lockdowns
Conclusion: >3 million dead Americans in about a year.
Do you disagree with any of the premises and/or the conclusion? If so show your math, your sources and your logic or shut up.

>> No.19632214

>>19632196
daytrading will do that to you anon.

>> No.19632217

>>19632196
If you really believe the shit is dropping and we're having a 2nd dip, then sell and buy when lower.

I don't believe that, and I am holding accordingly. Good luck.

>> No.19632224

>>19632106
Why would you bail now anyways? Powell will decide everyone's fates at 2pm and if it's bad news we'll retrace slightly and return in a week, if it's good news it will instantly pump and if you're not in you miss it. No reason to panic out over premarket jitters.

>> No.19632226

>>19632185
dollars sent to south africa will be stolen in the order in which they were received
please hodl, and the next available thief will be with you as soon as possible

>> No.19632229

>>19632196
hold on, and buy into the dip if you have money. don't sell in the dip. relax man.

don't get greedy too, sell in the green on small gains, rinse and repeat. plus a lot of mainstream businesses are going to crash in this dip, buy what you know and stop buying obscure shit biz sells you on that you don't understand.

>> No.19632235

>>19632213
fucking sweden, retard

NOBODY BUYS THE NOTHINGBURGER CHINK COOF ANYMORE

FUCK OFF

NOBODY IS COMING TO SAVE YOUR SPY PUTS

>> No.19632238

YOU FAGGOTS TOLD ME SSL WAS GOING TO $50

YOU FAGGOTS TOLD ME TO BUY SSL

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED AFTER HOURS

>> No.19632240

>>19632156
Now reduce everything because the numbers we have been given are all complete bullshit.

>> No.19632246

>SAVA and TTOO

these are the only two stocks I care about right now. I sold everything and went all in on these two and so far it’s paying off. Hoping to see another dollar/share before I cash out.

>> No.19632249

>>19632238
mother fucker we had a literal chorus line telling you not to send dollars to south africa
we practically made up a theme song

>> No.19632250

>>19631761
I've been shilling NIO for a week you cretin

>> No.19632251
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>SSL
big oof

>> No.19632256

>>19632226
>>19632226
>he didn't buy at $1.50
Hahahahahahaha

>> No.19632260

>>19632203
I didn't mention blacks once, I think that's your autism skimming and trying top construct a strawman. Being poor is not immoral and doesn't need justification unless you are a burden on someone else. You may think you're very wise and grown up because you don't care about anything, but in reality you're just as demoralized as the socialists and would benefit from taking Bezmenhov to heart. But you won't, because you're demoralized. It's a psychological collapse spiral that I'm not interested in participating in with you.

>> No.19632261

>>19632213
Anon no one's falling for it. Sorry. Maybe you'll catch the next easiest-market-in-history.

>> No.19632262

Brookfield

>> No.19632265

>>19631958
Oh god, I'm the richest fag so far. That's depressing. Net worth ~150k

>> No.19632267

>>19632249
I guess I'll just take the 90 day, day trading ban on robinhood and set a stop at $9.50

>> No.19632271

>>19632156
lol
you truly are a master statistician and you have solved the coronavirus
I sure hope that I'm not one of the millions of Americans who will be dying in the next year.

>>19632196
just buy good shit

>> No.19632272

>>19632256
post your stats, SSL chad
surely you aren't a hanger-on trying desperately to pump your worthless bags

>> No.19632273

>>19632238
We said $20, and we said 2021

>> No.19632275

>>19632251
My cost basis is 9.43. I'm considering eating the loss and telling the next faggot who peddles a get rich quick scheme to eat shit.

>> No.19632276

>>19632196
it is unironically just a correction. it'll be a heavy correction, yes. but instead of trying to time just fucking hold. in july you'll be glad you did.

>> No.19632281

>>19632267
Unless you bought today, it won't be a day trade.

>> No.19632282

>>19632275
... buy GNUS

>> No.19632284

>>19632196
Advice for newbies: don't buy a ticker you've never heard of.

>> No.19632285
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19632285

I have stocks on banks and oil. I am going to get assraped today, right?

I have done my due diligence, and it appears that the direction of the market today and the rest of the week depends on how dovish the Fed is going to be regarding stimulus programs(which is already at historical highs), how long it will remain that way, and its economic outlook.

is /biz/ bullish or bearish today?

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19632290

can't help it, this shit screams buy

>> No.19632293

>>19632282
Buy a gun and shoot yourself.

>> No.19632297

Go to your local gas station daily
Write down the price
4 weeks ago $1.49
Today $1.89
Who profits?
Why is price up?
Economy recovering?
Look at train traffic.

>> No.19632298

europoor here
bought before the nyse close yesterday
sold at euro open
feels like cheating

>> No.19632303
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>>19632196
HOLD YOUR BAGS AND BUY MORE

>> No.19632308

>>19632281
Bought it yesterday

I guess the stop order went in without issue then...

thought I'd have to hold for 5 days or whatever for it not to count as a day trade.

or maybe that's just to get the day trade slot cleared.

>> No.19632309

>>19632014
What is happening to airlines

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are we enjoying the 2nd leg down yet

>> No.19632321

>>19632272
I'm only up $3700

>> No.19632324

>>19632293
how many guns can i buy with the $1,400.02 GNUS has made me so far this morning?

although i guess i only need one

how much ammunition can i buy for the $1,424.13 GNUS has made me so far this morning?

probably just need the one bullet too, i guess

what is the biggest gun, and most badass bullet i can buy with the $1,448.24 GNUS has made me so far this morning?

if i wait an hour i can probably get two of them

>> No.19632327

>>19632309
Airlines are like a velocity etf of the Dow. Whatever the Dow does airlines 10x

>> No.19632328

sell now. rebuy SPY in 1-2 years at half price. rebuy shit stocks in 10 years when people forget about this clown market and start the next clown market

>> No.19632336

NASDAQ SITE MAINTENANCE....OOOOOOOOOOK please somebody tell me this is actual site maintenance

>> No.19632337

i am in a very good short position, literally from the top, how do I hold myself to not get shaken

>> No.19632339

>>19632327
With cheap fuel locked in by smart airlines once traffic resumes they will print money

>> No.19632340

>>19632285
Bear until Friday near close is my pure intuitive guess, try to take advantage and buy

>> No.19632352

>>19632327
I don't believe you.

>> No.19632355

>>19631794
It actually gives you mouth cancer.

>> No.19632361

>>19632337
This is genuinely your opportunity to sell
Get greedy and become like TVIX bagholder

>> No.19632369

>>19632352
I own a bunch of JETS it's been that way for weeks.

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19632371

>gold and silver futures moving down along with stocks
help, I need a PhD level financial analyst to unpack this one
what, oh what could it all mean? it's so mysterious

>> No.19632372

>>19632355
Bullshit. How many studies have been done?

>> No.19632382

>>19631794
It significantly increases the chance of getting mouth/throat cancer as well as other bad things.

>> No.19632383

>>19631918
> Theres no OBSERVABLE evidence that what you say will be the case
There are only two important variables: IFR and R0.
IFR is established as 1.2% and will be the same everywhere, and this is concluded from very observable evidence.
R0 on the other hand is less stable, it is different from place to place depending on population density, local behaviors, things like lockdowns of course, and so on. R0 will not be the same everywhere, meaning in some rural areas it might take a little longer for everyone to be infected and for 1.2% of the population to die (what we see in Georgia and Sweden) whereas in other, more packed places like new york it will go much faster. More people live in the dense areas so the bias will be towards the faster spread.
But nevertheless you are right in that one of the two important variables is hard to nail down enough based on observable evidence to predict exactly how long it will take for 1.2% of America’s population to die from covid, since most people live densely it could be faster than a year but there could also be some backwaters places that take up to two years, maybe even more, before everyone (of the 1.2%) have died.

>> No.19632385

>>19632369
That's living the meme life, enjoy the ride my dude

>> No.19632392

>>19632371
Deflation

>> No.19632396

>>19632371
i don't see them moving down but i wish they would. i checked them out and i think was too late, if you follow them then could you tell me whether you think they are overpriced right now? i want to buy some but i feel like they have more than peaked. I think they will still go up but a crash is inevitable.

>> No.19632397

>>19632250
Don’t you anticipate it dumping?

>> No.19632401

aaaaaaand we're flat again

>> No.19632403

>>19632383
nobody's saving your spy puts because you bought into memeflu
fuck off

>> No.19632405

>>19632361
but its the time to get fearful while others are gready

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>>19632392
phew thanks, I knew it was a D word
your significant expertise and experience is appreciated

>> No.19632418

>>19632385
Thanks anon I have indeed. Bought around ten weeks ago. Funny how popular that ETF has become.

>> No.19632422

>>19631805
Not girl, bote

>> No.19632428

>>19632271
Please show me where the experts disagree then. Or even your own calculations if you’re so smart. You have nothing, it has just turned into a meme among the ADHD kids on /biz/ that covid is over, you have absolutely nothing to back you up.
But keep being smug, for all I care, it’s not like you’re investing my money.

>> No.19632433

>>19632405
Futures and yesterday seem to indicate that others are suddenly fearful. Look at all these weak hands in oil ITT
It's your decision in the end, just don't have any regrets and don't try to time the market too closely a second time

>> No.19632434

>>19632371
Shiny rocks aren’t worth anything

>> No.19632439

>>19631268

This is a naive, oversimplified model.

It does not account for even a very simple pattern that once the concentration of infected per square meter (like in some elderly home or an airport) will get higher the severity of cases and mortality rates will go up.

go somewhere else with your fucking virtue signaling.

too much averaging loses not just precision but the whole meaning.

>> No.19632441

>>19632428
according to you. 3% of sweden should be dead
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

you're either lying because you've got spy puts or you're ACTUALLY retarded

>> No.19632442

>>19632428
I feel more smug each time you post

new thread:
>>19632437
>>19632437
>>19632437

>>19632437
>>19632437
>>19632437

>>19632437
>>19632437
>>19632437

>>19632437
>>19632437
>>19632437

>>19632437
>>19632437
>>19632437

>>19632437

>> No.19632443

>>19632372
it sounds like some dumb religious shit, like masturbation makes you blind.

>> No.19632444

Are my leaf/TSX bros around yet?
Coffee #1 current status = sipped

>> No.19632454

>>19632428
john kerry just said the president is denying science by not accepting the facts on covid, yet kerry is also supporting massive protests across the usa

explain that

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>>19632383
It seems like you think 1.2% death is a constant and the rest of the equation needs to be balanced around that. Which is obviously the wrong approach desu.

>> No.19632475

>>19632261
> nobody is falling for it
This is absolutely flabbergasting, I don’t understand how not a single person is able to show how simple math that experts agree with is wrong, yet you’re all so convinced you are right. On /pol/ that’s par for the course, and maybe even on /biz/, but I thought at least /smg/ could count.
Is my math wrong? Can you show me where? No? Then stfu.

>> No.19632484

>>19632340
Thanks anon , for the moments I will hold my position although I am eager to sell at any minute if the outlook is bad.

>> No.19632491

>>19632454
> explain that
Easy: John Kerry is a retarded cretin.

>> No.19632499

>>19632475
My math says I tripled my folio since March. You have your /cvg/ memes though I bet that's even better.

>> No.19632508

>>19632454
Easy, He wants to get rid of niggers. Not complaining tho.

>> No.19632522

>>19632428
It's pointless anon, they won't listen. The media has gone so far with this clown shit about trannies and how oppressed minorities are and how capitalism is rape, and the world is literally burning from climate change but it keeps getting pushed back another fifty years, and deforestation will kill all the species right fucking now, and they've seen their friends and families become mindless units because of television and e-celeb fake activism. They now see everything as a shill, and they're usually right. So they believe the opposite of whatever they're told, and they're right about as often as people who trust the talking box are... not very. With no one left to line up revolutionary intellectuals against the wall and shoot them, but no way to bring them back to the light of reason either, demoralization compounds and new factions are always splitting off, confiscating each others' ethos and all believing themselves to be the most traditional and historically valid and revolutionary all at once. True information cannot penetrate. This is all part of the eternal half-accomplished cultural destruction left as the legacy of the fallen USSR
There is nothing you can do or say
No matter who was in charge or what was at stake or what actions they decreed, people would still ignore their duties because the concept of duty is or of fashion, and the disease would still spread. Even if it were a 20% rate of death

>> No.19632658

>>19632213
>>>/cvg/

>> No.19632732

>>19632428
Let them lose money you fool!

>> No.19632910

>>19632078
Old loser here. I have a state pension, deferred comp, and mutual fund. Started trading to replace the bar (Bored fucking these young, dumb barmaid sluts and I was smacking Lefty scumbags around a little too hard and too often) and sports gambling (inconvenient and and too hard to come ahead). Up 65% on my original $2500, but this is obviously small play money.
Hopefully young guys here taking steps to build financial independence. I'll still retire at 50 but I missed out on a lot of things; I would have had more children and more land/property in my portfolio.

>> No.19632939

>>19631708
>The R0 is already proven to be very high
when do you think it will exponentially rise?

>> No.19633347

>>19632308
Five days clears one slot. If everyone was an expert and a psychic then everyone would be rich, but learn the fucking basics and don't put yourself in a position of panic because you didn't do your homework. Emotion is a key ingredient in the recipe for disaster.

>> No.19633645

>>19631278
>before the elections
why before the elections?