/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19621899
turtle method is great and all, but I don't know if it's the best way for an anon who doesn't know elementary arithmetic.

>>19621973
>won't bode well for the V shaped recovery
It already happened, YTD is green for half of shit. The market can stay retarded much longer than we can stay solvent - Memevesting 101. We need to see the credit market get rattled, and I mean really RATTLED. Best bet is a revenue shock from a second shutdown, but twice today some anon (shitposting or not) has sperged out saying to exit all markets. It seems like larp, but I'm already 50% cash, 35% bonds, 15% hedged equities and tempted to believe that the crash is imminent and it's going to be for something turbo stupid. Something like a bomb at the NYSE or national blackout or some /pol/ happeningfaggot retardation. Something REALLY fucking dumb.

Did you buy the oil dip, Anon?

it moons again tomorrow

>>19622091
i am the oil dip anon

>S&P is the same at close today as it was lunchtime yesterday

>back to tomboy tag
niggers

>>19622100
Better be, I got 16 longs on 5 different companies

>>19622058
Anime is a mental disease.

>>19622058
>http://nhentai.net/tag/tomboy/
Bullish, green day tomorrow

>futures are red
>everything is red AH

pls no

>GNUS
SOME DAYS ARE DIAAAAAAMOOOOOOONNNDDDDDDSSSSSS
SOME DAYS ARE STOOOOOOOOOOONES

SOME TIMES THE HARD TIMESSSSS
WONT LEAVE ME ALOOOOONNNEEE

None of the meme stocks I was monitoring rocket shipped today. Good thing I stuck with boring ol' KR.

>>19622100
no

>>19622091
cpe oxy and mro

any good indicators to add to a VWAP strategy to make it more optimized?

Reminder that you do in fact, have to pay taxes

>after-hours

Finna bout to snib snab on your ass.

>>19622091
SSL

>>19622143
Those puts you bought are going to be worthless tomorrow. God help you if you wrote naked calls or short-sold.

>>19622091
I didnt have anymore money to put in. I'm already holding cpe kos and mro

>>19622091
Already went all in on oil last week. Pray for me brothers

>>19622154
I see you IRS

>>19622100
If it doesn't I'll be financially ruined.

I'm sorry jews for everything I ever said about you.

I bought NKLA back when it was 24 and sold it yesterday morning at 41 so l could go all in on IVR.
God why am l such a dum dum :(

Its over blumpf this is the end of the great economy you inherited from Barack Obama (pbuh). Its time to put power-brain joe biden in charge to turn this mess around.

>>19622091
Yes, SSL
I also bought the beginning and end of the oil moon yesterday, but at least not the middle.
I'm operating at like 105 IQ levels right now because I'm suffering some problems unrelated to the market, but it seems like it's enough to carry me through

When can I afford a brown qt?

whoever shilled nkla here last week thank you so much

>>19622167
Powell is going to come out and tell us he's run out of ammunition and it's going to take an act of Nancy Pelosi to save us. Then you'll see some real pink wojacks.

Fuck snss, how the fuck is as soon as I sell it jumps 10 fucking %

>>19622217
you're welcome

>>19622154
>funnel life through credit card
>settle funds once a month out of Robinhood to pay balance
>paychecks go right into stocks
>use 2% cash back at the end of year to pay taxes on gains

EZ. Cash is trash. Credit and equities are life.

>>19622199

Well the IVR move was probably retarded but I don't blame you for selling NKLA that's sitting on a cliffs edge.

Anyone have DRN

>>19622201
Hold Anon, and you will make it.

>>19622154
Wait, ok. So if I buy AAPL at $340 and sell it at $240, but then immediately buy it back, I can't claim the capital loss because it's a wash sale. But then if it climbs back up to $340, and I sell it, is it considered capital gains? I would think it'd be calculated as a break-even.

>NKLA - Let me be blunt about this. They have an idea, a theory nothing more at this point. They have no trucks. They have no means of building said trucks. They have no means of fueling said trucks (no service stations). They do have orders though but till something rolls out of a plant somewhere I'm on the fence about them. A lot of things could go wrong. Anyone of which could cost you.

HAL will make me so much HODL and BUY

>>19622199
You think that's bad?? Cheer up, I literally pissed away $35k in NKLA profit yesterday. Pic related...

How is IVR and MITT looking tomorrow? Should I just eat my losses? I can sell in AH

>>19622229
>out of ammunition
Ammo remaining:
Infinity Big Bang Storm QE
Direct purchase of equities by the Fed
Negative rates (the ultimate forbidden magick)

>>19622154
Not if I never sell

>>19622306
who cares, it's a cool truck on the picture, cool name, stonk goes up.

>>19622080
>It already happened, YTD is green for half of shit.
Yeah, but it's all based on sentiment. Nothing is there. This shit is still reversible. I don't think bad Q2 earnings will trigger anything bigger than 15% down by themselves, just a correction, but I think it will mark the beginning of a true bear market, followed by a steadier recovery. I agree with you that a true crash will need to be preceded by something much bigger.

>>19622329
idk about MITT but IVR is going to be 3 dollars by friday

>>19622332
Based

G-green day tomorrow, right guys?

>>19622295
You only pay tax on income. At the end of the year whatever your total realized gain is for all trades is what you pay tax on

>>19622306
>no hydrogen refuel stations anywhere.
Mkay, let's see how this plays out.

MGM calls, am i retarded?

>>19622306
>I dont really understand what they do but that logo sure is flashy

>>19622100

I’d like the rest of the week to finish green but if we lost another couple bucks on the price of everything I’d be fine with buying some cheapies tomorrow for things to moon at a later time. Either way I’d be pleased

>>19622154
i hate this until i remember its literally free money. oh well

Is Norwegian fucked with this lawsuit?

>>19622346
You don't want to be an American idiot, do you anon?

>>19622346
>green day

Only for oil

>>19622306
What is an angel investment?

>>19622091
CEQP for cheap divies

>>19622364
I ran out of cash I can safely invest.

Thank You Tim Apple

>>19622351
Don’t you have to 1099 every quarter if you make a certain amount?

And really, you don’t actually cut the check to Uncle Sam till almost halfway through the next year.

>>19622287
I know, anon. I know. I bought some last week too. My average is 9.3 at 125 shares and I think I might just keep buying as I get the cash until 15. I'm not all in on it though, but I did trim around 25 holdings to around 10 holdings between Thursday and today's close.
I didn't have enough money to start really investing until April, and some of my early picks were dumb or just too early when I should have picked quicker recovering things first, so I'm hoping I can still get close to the yearly recovery with SSL and some other low risk high reward positions. Definitely beating inflation right now, at least.
Do you think they'll fall again when OPEC opens up or just flatline and then slow grow?

Stocks only go up

>>19622361
>i don't understand what they do but it's $55 over my cost basis
ftfy seething coper

>>19622393

I’m sitting on a little bit still and ive got another bit about to come in. Would love a green day dopamine rush but if it stays red til this money comes in that’d be alright too

>>19622154
>paying taxes to niggers

Nope, file as a non filer every year and tell them to get fucked

>>19622128
Dont suicide seriously. Go read the Holy Bible, recommendation being to start in the New Testament. Jesus Christ has the gift of salvation. He died on the cross to save us from sin and eternal damnation and rose three days later. Be saved anon.

>>19622331
>Infinity Big Bang Storm QE
cripples the economy
>Direct purchase of equities by the Fed
cripples the economy
>Negative rates (the ultimate forbidden magick)
cripples the economy

IVR is tanking but I’m confident on SOLO
Get in while you can boys

>>19622454
You forgot
>helicopters dropping money

>>19622154
actually no you don't. I will not be paying taxes as part of my #DefundThePolice protest

>>19622100
Hope so. I'm still up $300 overall this week, but today was harsh. Even my safe stocks like T, MO, and SPYD ETF fell.

Really wish I’d of sold airline positions to buy re-buy back in looks likes they’re going to crash for another day. Can’t time the market though I guess.

>>19622469
Based. I was trying to tell the niggers here last week and yesterday.

>>19622454
Who cares about the economy as long as the markets are saved?
Eat the poor

am i about to get margin called?

>>19622100
Dont you mean... moooooons? Hahahahahhaha fucking cowcuck I got you

>>19622522
Wish I was playing around then, woulda made more
Bought at 2.8 so I’m at a loss rn but I’m absolutely not sweating it lol

>>19622531
lmao

>>19622154
What I don't get is, let's say you make like $500k in a YOLO. You could pay 40-50% of that in estimated taxes so you don't get the underpayment penalty, but that assumes that you don't YOLO the gains and then lose them all. Just because you make $500k in one YOLO doesn't mean you can't also lose $500k in another YOLO sometime later in the year, setting you back to $0 or even negative capital gains. So I really would have no idea what my taxable income *should* be at the end of the year because it's so unpredictable.

>>19622454
Your point? They cause stocks to go up

>>19622080
>twice today some anon (shitposting or not) has sperged out saying to exit all markets
Somebody posts something like that every day of the year, anon.

>>19622335
what's your favorite play anon? mine are raw materials, QLTA, and a few bond mutual funds.

>>19622531
rip

>>19622490
relax your soul.
there will be days like this in the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XULUBg_ZcAU

>>19622528
>Who cares about the economy as long as the markets are saved?
trump, most people in the usa, ...

>>19622546
i'll take that as a no

Is IVR seriously going to tank?
Was I scammed?

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>19622454
>economy

Nope, stocks only go up

>>19622576
If you're genuinely that dumb then you probably shouldn't be taking such wild risks with your money. Save every penny, you're absolutely going to need it

>>19622602
>Nope, stocks only go up
what if the dollar go down faster?

>>19622541
Yeah I'm holding long term. In the meantime I'm selling 7.5 covered calls to print cash (today alone covered the entire cost).

>>19592209

Quick rundown on Nikola? Meme or real competitor to Tesla?

>>19622584
>it was different this time
I've got some more informed people starting to sperg out as of about two weeks ago. There was something about the way that the posts were written, the contents, and the timing. I don't know. My intuition kicked that it was either a good shitpost or real murmurs and rumors spreading. My connection is to an officer at a F100. make of it what you will.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/invesco-mortgage-capital-inc-announce-203000834.html

Airlines red tomorrow.

>>19622628
unironically the best thing for my portfolio right now would be a run on GBP

>>19622633
>Meme or real competitor to Tesla?
yes, therefore yes

test

>>19622632
Can u explain that? I know there’s big volume for options next week so price should go up
You’re making profit off that rn?

I thought Sasol was a meme, it is not. An international chemical company

Their website is pretty neat and they have a lot of projects going on that was halted due to covid, check them out at www.sasol.com

>>19622633
Meme imo, if you bought a few days ago you’d be good, but realistically I feel like they are years away from making a profit and the stock is extremely overpriced rn.

>>19622633
With how volatile it is I plan on entering and exiting multiple times as it pumps
Made 700 yesterday

>>19622531
shit bro.

>>19622343
Don’t listen to this retard, he’s got a fat stack of ivr and wants more

>>19622652
ur link has nothing to do with airlines

>>19622679
>thinking any of these oil stocks are memes.

I mean there may be some but ssl is not even close

>>19622592
Most people are poor so their opinions don't matter. Trump clearly doesn't care about the economy because he was so proud of the helicopter money initiative that he demanded his name be put on the checks. He's been in lockstep with every Fed move over the past few months which have ensured economic damage in order to prop up the market bubble.

Poor people care about the economy because they need that shit to eat. Rich people care about the market because the economy doesn't impact them in the slightest. Because rich people control the political institutions, the only thing that is to be expected are pro-market, anti-economy policies such as we've seen for the past century and especially in the past three decades.

If you think the Fed won't gut the economy to prop up the market, you clearly weren't paying attention in March.

>>19622154
>>19622576
>>19622617
I understand that you pay taxes in the net capital gains. I pay whatever taxes I owe. What I find conflicting is the fact that you're supposed to pay-as-you-go through withholding and/or estimated tax payments otherwise there's a penalty. There is no way to know your estimated tax due when you're a degenerate option gambler. You could be at +$500k in June but -$500k by December, in which case it's a good thing you didn't pay any estimated tax on your June earnings.

>>19622694
KEK

>>19622531
>>19622694
What is margin called?

What happens if that specific anon gets margin called?

>>19622652
>>19622713
Fuck my bad
https://www.barrons.com/articles/airline-stocks-descend-as-trade-group-issues-dire-outlook-51591716916?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

>>19622672
I sold covered calls at 7.5 for next week because I think it's too soon but if I'm wrong then I'll have more than quadrupled my money anyway in addition to the premiums, so about 5x my money and I'll buy back in anyway. If not the premiums were sweet and I'm planning to hold anyway.

>>19622745
it's better if you don't think about it.

>>19622727
I think you're missing Trump's motivations for fed actions. He's been calling for a weaker dollar forever because he wants to undercut Chinese manufacturing, he's even conceded letting India build manufacturing just because it means China gets hurt

>>19622763
>>19622745
>>19622732
>>19622694
>>19622589
>>19622546
HOLY SHIT BROS I MADE $85 TODAY

>>19622752
nah, robbin kiddies will think is a good time to buy the dip

>>19622745
You are going to have to pay what you owe.
You played with money you didn't have in your account.
Basically you are fucked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhy7JUinlu0

>>19622469
Based on the last years worth of financials I feel like that ones FOMO after today

FUTURES ARE GREEN
DOW +1 POINT

>>19622783
unironically one of the highest gains today on /smg/

>>19622628
Cope

>>19622728
Which is why they allow you to carry forward losses

im so fucking tired of the BLM shit and all the corporations bowing down to them, bros...

>>19622776
Trump's motivation is to trick people into thinking things are okay for a few more months in order to get reelected.

>>19622745
you can trade on margins, or borrowed money. a margin call is when the guy says give me my money back. people get fucked because they end up taking huge losses and owe more than they can come up with in a short amount of time.

only 2 people showed up to the nasdank 10k party this morning

>>19622727
>Most people are poor so their opinions don't matter.
You are lucky that the left in america is retarded and riot because of skin color instead of economic inequality.

Say the line bearcucks

>>19622752
Ah. There we go. None of this should come as a surprise to anyone invested in airlines at the moment. The bullish thesis is about speed of recovery rather than the hit airlines took and will continue to take while demand is below pre-corona levels. Article says much the same thing in the final paragraph:
>The trends will have to keep getting slightly less bad for the stocks to move higher, even if the industry remains quite a way from profitability.

As for tomorrow, my guess is more selling at open then bullish response again similar to today's pattern.

>>19622654
How do I cash in my good boy points for stocks?

>>19622833
then what happens after he gets reelected?

>>19622745
Just watch Trading Places bro

>>19622837
But what makes the person margin call? Isnt there some sort of agreement that the guy wont take the money back until X or Y?

Or is that when the stock goes under a certain amount and triggers it?

>>19622860
He goes golfing and supports whatever agendas the Jews tell him to support.

>>19622860
It's almost as if racial tensions are stoked purposefully to keep the plebs from recognizing their own enslavement.

>SSL pumping after hours, up 1.09%
We’re all gonna make it

>>19622903
Your equity is your collateral. If it falls below a certain limit you're fucked.

Also google next time ffs.

>>19622864
TD Ameritrade network was talking about airlines to increase operations by at least 70% instead of 40-50% to turn a profit in the current market.
It's going to be really hard to get a 30-20% pump.

>>19622833
irrelevant to his views on the dollar.

>>19622934
R-r-rookie numbers?

>>19622531

>>19622058
Thank God I sold at the high point. Good luck tomorrow. You'll need it.

>>19622920

>>19622816
At $3k per year, but the point of the thought experiment is that I wouldn't want to needlessly tie up thousands in capital and not be able to get it back until refund season. Imagine you incur some massive losses, realize you have now overpaid in taxes because your liability went down, need the money right now really bad (like you have medical bills or are going to lose your house or something), but can't get it back until your refund next filing season.

>>19622783
You haven't >made anything until you cash out

jerome please save us tomorrow

between the three REIT's i'm watching (MITT, IVR, CORR), CORR is performing the best AH.
let's see if that higher share price and connection to the energy sector gives it some strength

>>19622934
In any case, muh ta on the airlines remains in hold territory for the time being.

>>19622934
don't the CARES restrictions end after September?

>>19622745
Your broker warns you to pay up, then sells your positions for you in an effort to get you up to maintenance.

>>19622959
Don’t do it fren, we’re gonna be green tomorrow

holy shit bros JNUG is literally the best chance we got to make it

>>19622154
Can I just leave them invested at the end of the year and then realize them Jan 1st? Is that tax evasion? I'M POOR AND THE GOVERNMENT ALREADY TAKES TOO MUCH IN SECURITY FOR OLD BOOMER FUCKS FUCK YOU IRS

>>19622597
Did you really think they were gonna let you get rich that easy?

>>19623006
If not then he can off himself?

>>19622963
Dont gamble money you cant afford to lose

>>19623019

>>19622531
Shitty life decisions there man.

>>19622745
You borrowed somebody else's money and lost it gambling in a casino on LA, then the next day a group of men in suit barges into your house asking where the money went.

I am financially ruined

THIS DIP FINANCIALLY RUINED ME
JEROME pLS SAVE ME TOMORROW

I CANT BREATHE

if you are going to long a fund that follows the S&P why wouldn't you choose DGRO? It has outperformed VOO and SPY in growth and has a better dividend.

What are you buying in this dip?

I bought 2000 OAS and 2000 WLL

Its oil, so it will eventually go up

And 30 VRM because every IPO has sky rocketed and its competitor carvana sits at $100+ a share

>>19623011
How do these leveraged stocks work?

>>19622831

Same. Fuck niggers and nigger enablers.

Looks like I should've sold the high point again, instead of waiting for some miracle pump. Recently I was up $1700 but it's not like I could've sold everything since it wouldve caused the PDT shit to trigger. Now I'm down a bit over $1k, but still up about $600 from my capital I've put into the account.

>>19623070
I dunno, but if SSL hits 9.75, I'm selling and buying back in at a lower price.

What do yall think about Macy's? Good to buy? I feel like it will go up once normies start going back outside, you know they are just dying to spend money

>>19622955
Tomorrow is probably just going to grab. I expect a little rally on Friday though.

>S&P Futures +0.06%

>>19623011
>crashes before market
>doesn't go up during crisis
wtf is this?, will it split in another pullback?

>>19623075
It would take a lot to explain but basically it ups the volatility, which is peak /biz/

>>19622831
>>19623076
I'm making a much better and more comprehensive list of companies than that Twitter girl did tomorrow. A spreadsheet actually. I'll upload it somewhere tomorrow and link it here so you can sell their stocks and stop doing business with them. Includes a lot of subsidiary companies though because Unilever and Procter & Gamble both bent the knee.
In exchange I hope one of you who actually has a Twitter account will DM her the link so she can spread it to the normie-core Twitter counter-woke crowd

>>19623070
Soon brother.
I bought ENBL, because fuck it.
They've been good to me.

Goldman Sachs liars soon to be proven wrong again. report coming.
https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/supply/weekly/

>>19623055
Welcome to the club. Trump needs to pump oil prices fast.

Start a war with Iran or something.

>>19623107
>Dow futures up 0.05%

>>19623067
MTUM beats them both

i can't believe I waited 3 months to buy only to buy the TOP of the TOP on a PnD the day before the second leg down started and now I'm down almost 20%

I'm so fucking stupid, I'm one day too late on the march bottom then I capitulate the day of the top when i would be comfy sitting on cash otherwise and it's all downhill from here

>>19622831
Corporations don't care about niggers.

It's all about the bottom line.

They only want to avoid getting into frivolous racism lawsuits. They can and would win then, but it's bad marketing.

Making a "BLM" black background, white letters PowerPoint is literally free lucky charm that keeps the niggers away from your money.

>>19623132
that already exists dude, this one is being passed around on Twitter
https://ameridharma.com/watchlist

Random reminder to not long REITs you absolute idiots

>>19623132

Based I’ll be looking out for it

>>19623161
>it's all downhill from here
Literally why

>>19623184
what about telecom REITs

>>19623117
Why would i go up during the covid scare? They had to shut down most mining and refining. This is on some buy the rumor type shit, that if you know covid is a hoax and that gold is bullish then this is a no brainer and easy money.

>>19623161
Nice larp.

ARE GUYS TELLING ME IVR ISN'T A LONG TERM HODL?????

>>19623183
whoops forgot pic

>>19623070
I waited for the MAS dip to 47 the whole day but eh it didn't come as I expected. I bought more RTX dip at 70.

We're going to make it OIL bros.

What’s a good website that gives me the most updated, accurate After hours stock price?

>>19623099
I find when people talk about Macy's, they like to tout the value of their real estate holdings more than the business itself. As for if it is a good pick, I dunno. The stock was kind of in a bad place prior to lockdown in spite of its dividend.

>>19623221
that's... bearish?

>>19623204
no, I'm really that stupid. I made 0 dollars on a 40% bull run and then went all in and lost 17% in a day

anyone know if AMD is gonna have a good price to buy seems like something thats gonna moon especially with the PS5 announcement soon and the consoles coming soon

>>19623232
Yeah. We're still going to make it.
>>19623238
> 17% in a day
How?

>>19623228
Yahoo finance.

>>19623168
>Corporations don't care about niggers.
Since when did corporations care about anyone, except our money?

>>19623257

>>19623257
IVR

>>19623255
>gonna moon especially with the PS5 announcement soon and the consoles coming soon

>>19623168
Ain't that the truth? There are stores in Oakland, CA that are covering their store windows with BLM murals just to avoid being destroyed.

>>19623221
That's very very bad retard.

>>19623258
based

>>19623238
Remember to sell low

>>19623099
Pent up demand is a meme. Short lived at best. People won't consume more to "average" out the year the same.
All I know about Macy's is that I have seen Macy's bonds being sold since February. Personally I feel its better for an options play than bagholding a long.

>>19623255
I looked at the graph and it doesnt look like AMD mooned when PS4 and previous XBox was released.

Hey um did Latam airlines disappear for anyone else

To anons holding airlines or trading them in and out, make sure to keep a close eye on the TSA throughput numbers. These are important to monitor the speed of demand growth.
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

>>19623221
Fucking doubled. These assholes are trying to crash the market.

>>19623267
sweatin there bro? dont want to miss this rocket

>>19623221
Uh anon

>>19622154
Where is the VR police???

>>19623221
So buy oil again at the dip? Thanks

>>19623270
>>19623291
>>19623296
>>19623302

>>19623286
No? I just checked the chart and all seems normal.

>>19623266
IVR
>I’m
>Very
>Retarded
How could we not see this coming fellow tard?

>>19623311
Its temporarily unavailable on robinhood and they canceled my stop loss order

>>19623286
WTFFFFFf WHERES mY MONeY I HAD 5K IN LTM!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>19623183
Still doesn't even have Unilever, seems to be the one she made just with a few added.
Also why the fuck do people on 4chan still use fucking Google Docs for spreadsheets rather than something that allows anonymous edits or ones not tied to your Google account?
But still, thank you, because it's a good second source to save me some time.
>>19623189
Will probably be in the evening well after close

>>19623307
Still estimates, Fucking frauds.
Doubling of consumption too in estimates.
Waiting on EIA numbers.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/API-Shocks-Market-With-Large-Crude-Oil-Build.html

HODL ON SEA CATS

>>19622599
Based

>>19623320
maybe the real gains were the lessons we learned too late
better luck next market crash

>>19622154
it's shit. I just inherited a bunch of US bonds. I wanted to cash it all out, and put it in the market (just like Jerome wants me too). I only ended up cashing out some of it, cause income tax is insane, and I don't think I can beat it with stock growth. And that's just Federal tax. Luckily I don't pay state tax on these.

>>19623296
>>19623291
>>19623270
>>19623264
HODL

>>19623364
these numbers have been all over the place in the last month. They're bipolar as shit. I was assuming the levels would come down, but obviously once the price came up, these producers just started spamming their wells at full capacity.

>>19623366
Get back to your containment thread.

>>19622091
I'd like to buy her oily dip, if you know what I mean.

Getting real sick of the oil bagholders. Pipelines, tankers, refineries, whatever. You are all bagholding until November at least. Stop trying to reassure each other.

>>19623322
>robinhood
oh i dunno about robinhoodwinks

Convince me to not buy oil right now

>IVR red AH

a toast to tankertards!

>>19623402
doesn't exist. theres no material changes, really. The play is the same and it's a few anons and footfags catching up on each other's sentiment.

don't worry wti will reach 50 on friday

>>19623408
I dont need to reassure myself. Dont group me in with tankers

My gains reassure me. 60% gains in a month and a half. No trading nothing. Just buy it then held

>>19623421
Is there any hope?

Now that $CHK is ded I'm all in on $NOG

>>19623408
Thanks for reassuring me that this is a good long term baghold

Hope DAL & MRO, well fuck just in general everything else, is green Thursday. DAL@ $47 by july..

worth buying tesla?
new battery tech coming up.
>2000km pre charge
>2million km battery life
>super fast charge
https://www.newmobility.global/e-mobility/brighsuns-revolutionary-long-range-ev-batteries-enter-industrial-trials/

theres really niggas with AK's in chicago./Minneapolis burbs

>>19623215
>no constantly pissed permaloli to throw dinner at me when I get home who secretly wants my approval
Why live.

>>19623067
HE'S NOT WRONG, THE MARKET JUST HASN'T -- F.I.G.U.R.E.D. I.T. O.U.T. Y.E.T. -- OK, SO YOU NEED TO SELL ALL OF YOUR STOCKS, DUMP US STOCK AND BUY EUROPEAN SHARES, BUY GOLD MINERS, THINGS WILL GET MUCH WORSE, THIS IS A BEAR MARKET RALLY, BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH

>June 30, 2020 4:00 PM EST
>DOW 30,000

>>19623408
if they made an oil general, it would bump off almost as fast as /tsg/ and just be full of GUSH and MRO shitters. I'll support it if the kpop guy gets contained however.

>>19623364
Demand for oil went up though, of course we would increase. Also, still down from last week

>>19623066
criminally underrated and uncheckered post

>>19623494
The kpop guy is an oil bear.

>>19623537
i thought he was in GUSH on margin? he needs oil to be up at like $50 or so, no?

pretty anemic first half hour on futures

>>19623408
I'm up 97% though. I need to get over 100% for OCD reasons.

>>19623437
>I dont need to reassure myself. Dont group me in with tankers
You aren't any different.
>>19623455
Sure :^)
>>19623494
Didn't even know of "kpop guy". Not surprised of the degeneracy though

>>19623537
>>19623564
k-pop guy is annoying as fuck.
yeah he was shilling gush.

when will IVR hit 7 dollars bros

>>19622058
If only I day traded yesterday. JUST

>>19623537
>schizogook is retarded
shocked

>>19623564
He is? I guess he'll be fine on 50. I think we're going to breach 60 before the next dip.

>>19622058
I'm taking my gains and GTFOing the market for a while. I have made some good money (over 20% since March) and think if you're in the market right now you're a fool.

Retail investors are going to learn the fucking hard way on this. Redditors on WSB will be committing suicide within a month. If you're up a good bit like I am I would advise you to just take your profits like a rational person before this mother fucker comes crashing down. What are you holding off for anyway? Another 10%?

>>19623609
Around 11am tomorrow

>>19623288
Ooh! Another site has graphed this data and appear to be keeping it up to date on daily basis:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107016/coronavirus-tsa-checkpoint-travel-numbers-us-airports/

Why does losing 16% feel worse than the happiness I had when I was up 85% yesterday

>>19622447
are you an angel

>>19623575
same range things have been stuck in since June 5th

>>19623634
I'm in sectors just now recovering, not ETFs

>>19623672
Because you're greedy

>>19623634
That's great. See you tomorrow.

>>19623634
We've just begun the bull market.

>>19623153
>futures up 0.05 and bull rejoicing
lmao

>>19623597
>>19623600
>>19623629
he's gonna get smacked with the double whammy of unstable prices - that will probably be pinned up with shale in mind, not his exploration shit - and tightening credit. I really hope he hedges his bet before that SEA trip. (kek he's not even going to kimchiland)

>>19623672
imagine buying the top and then losing 16% of your own, not house money

>>19623695
Kill yourself anime posting faggot

>>19623738
what's your view on the bond market, specifically grade A and intermediate term treasuries

Who's holding or bought the dip?

>some algo glitching out on wti right now
lmao

>>19623738
What do you care?
Why are you so salty?
Sounds like someone is mad his plans didn't work the way he thought.

>>19623672
lizard brains are loss averse

>>19623724
But Anon, I don't have to imagine.

>>19623762
grade A corp**
also a n i m e

Fuck is it to much to fucking ask that I see DAL @ 47 soon... Hell it was just 8 stinking bucks away from that yesterday.. God I hope this reverses tomorrow or Friday..

>>19623469
I think the future is great for Tesla, just the price is a little steep right now. I'm waiting for a dip to 850

>>19623771
yeah.

>>19623672
Losses feeling worse than gains feel good is an eternal and universal truism of equity trading and gambling. This is one of the tendencies you need to overcome as a trader such that you do not allow the feel to affect your judgement.

Answer me bruhs
1. Good (not meme) youtubers to learn from about stocks/day trading?
2. Is DGAZ a meme?

>>19623784
I'm not mad I'm trying to help you. Anime is a faggot hobby. I liked Cowboy Bebop but you people are fucking insufferable with all the "cute" shit. Do you expect people not to think you're some kind of pedo or faggot or something posting that shit here?

Anyway yeah I'm feeling pretty good about my decision. If you make another 5% or whatever this week more power to you. Good luck. I made half my years salary on MRO and I don't have to worry about that money at all lol

>>19623884
Watch Martin Shkreli's series on investing. It's on Jewtube.

>>19623884
khan academy to learn how stocks and other financial instruments work.

>trading
no

Weebs get the rope

apparently oil dipped how do i cash in on this tomorrow morning

>>19623884
>DGAZ

>>19623808
>a company built over a personality cult
>with negative historical eps
millenials are so gonna get bogged. the only question is whether by 30, 50, or 100%.

>>19623762
I don't have one what's yours?

>>19623771
Why would anyone sell literally the day after JP Morgan upgrades the stock from Neutral to Overweight? Bunch of panic sellers clicking sell when they see red lol. I loaded up an extra 200 shares at 10.

reminder to TA people, this is a bull flag. You may not like it. You may think it's stupid. But it is.

Down 25% in one day. Shit fucking hurts man. It have calls in tons of stuff but since the entire market bled so did my account.

>>19623949
>Losing a bunch of money gambling on options
Oh gee who could have seen that coming?
>>19623947
TA is retarded

>>19623947
how do i profit on this

>>19623930
I just called my broker and got them to clarify I can sell my SSL then buy back in the same day without it being considered a day trade.
Seems kinda obvious: sell before the dip then buy back in to expand your share count.

>>19623221
NOOOOOOOOOOO
I BOUGHT A SPECULATIVE CALL ON PARSELY ENERGYYYYY!!!!!

>>19623215
I've also been eyeing MAS! What's your thesis/desire?
My watch list is too damn big.

>>19623158
I got out of MTUM at the absolute worst time kek, and bought worse etfs. I can't believe I bought SPLV at the end of the bear market of the 2010's like a fucking retard.

VIG still doing good by me though.

>>19623228
I fucking LOVE garter straps, bro!
This antiquated clothing technology is so cute!

>>19623984
You put a stop loss a bit below the range of the pennant portion and wait for it to break upwards or you get stopped out if it rejects (bart reversal).

>>19623947
The volume today was pretty small to be honest. I guess a few retail investors are taking their profits.

>>19624001
>>19624001
>>19624001
new

>>19623885
>what other people think is more important than everything
Faggots like you piss me off. You aren't just 'playing the game', you need social credit to justify yourself. Without social credit, your just a worthless privileged asshole who makes three hundred times at your shit job what the fuckers who made your gadgets and clothes make, for no fucking reason.

>>19624037
Sharp decline in volume in pennant phase is part of textbook bull flag definition.

>>19624042
That's a shitty edition you sea nigger

>>19623267
anything other than amd to get before the announcements

>>19623949
>>19623793
>>19623672
What are y'all, two days from retirement?

>>19623302
You fucking better. I sold off my AAL yesterday and my MRO today to buy some TVIX to shore up the coming losses on my XOM (my only long term hold and largest position) specifically so I can buy MRO again during the dip. MRO's volatility and risk is just right for me to want to swing trade it.

Lost about 1000 today (paper). Fucking sucks. The only thing that topped it was that ONTX loss (real) which was over 2000.

>>19624071
Oh no I made an anime faggot mad LMAO

Anyway yeah pretty happy I sold my AAL yesterday. Bought that shit last Wednesday morning and it made me a cool 40%.

Now that retail investors rule the market this shit is gonna be easy as fuck. See y'all by the end of the week when the dow is off >=3%

>>19623929
Safest place for your money that's not cash. The only place better might be preferred shares but I don't know the space well enough to advocate for them. I think active funds that focus on A grade but have some BBB will do better than passive etfs like QLTA which might shrek you if the credit rating bubble takes a shit. Muni funds are a little scary because the munis are at risk of bankrupcy, but if you know good areas that will stay solvent, pick them to lock yields. There will be a "rush to quality" especially for things that yeild over 3% or so, and shit like investment grade bond funds that don't have a heavy hand in AA or A grade,will have to sprint for those former AA and A grades if it hasn't happened already. Preferreds are nice because the odds of the bulk of companies that offer them cutting those dividends is likely low, also the premium paid over the price they can be pulled out for won't be too high. Personally i'd stick to bond mutuals to be able to accept more risk. The worst case scenario is a huge rate hike by the FED or potentially a freak out for equities and yield, but the TINA argument is shit, and inflation won't get felt for a while. Longer dated has more risk, but most corp funds seem to have an average length of something like 6 or 7 years, which should be more than acceptable.

>>19624161
Saved, thx

>>19624203
I really don't know the space too well, so read up and decide for yourself. My other play is US iron and fucking tankers, so don't take me as law. I'm looking for some kind of confirmation

>>19624234
You won't get it from me. I can only tell you that I was right to get into oil in March which was my first foray into active trading and I feel right to reduce my position now because it feels like we are headed for something quite more long term than just corona - and we have underestimated corona as well.

Just look at the civil unrest in the streets right now. You think hedge fund managers or retail investors like me, the "smart" money who made >20% since March want to just wait this out for maybe another 5-10% in the next 3 months? Nah.

Oh also buy XOM on the next oil sector dip for good stable divvies.

>>19624305
>we are headed for something quite more long term than just corona - and we have underestimated corona as well.
I love the brazil news. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-06/vale-plant-shut-by-brazilian-judge-on-virus-fears-reuters-says
It's the same shit that tankies were on about but now it's metals. A falling tide lowers all ships, so I'm keeping myself hedged. Don't bet against america is great advice desu. we're going to come out of this running while the rest of the world might have to limp through it all.
>Just look at the civil unrest in the streets right now.
It's funny because it's only partially economic. The stimulus for it wasn't even the root cause.
>Oh also buy XOM on the next oil sector dip for good stable divvies.
On my radar, thanks for the confirm here. Got an estimate for when? I'm thinking sometime between August and October.

>>19624378
>same shit that tankies were on about
clarification: The same in terms of demand for storage. There is a continuing demand for iron. The tankers will be in use long term when oil prices go up because they're going to have to even out the shock and long term effects of supply glut. This iron shit is going to be on a similar timeframe, but the issue isn't crippled wells, it'll be crippled production from the #2 exporter of iron, Brazil

>>19622628
>1/20 over a hundred years
>20x a decade in the market (TQQQ:TMF)
OH NOSES GUIES!

>>19624159
>oh no, (insert socially acceptable insult here)
NPC. Couldn't pass a turing test.
See you when you blow it all like the minimum wage loser you secretly are.

Tastyworks, e-trade or ameritrade for options trading? I keep trying to upgrade my robinhood account to trade options and it just gives me "unexpected server error, please try again later" every time.