/biz/ - Business & Finance

previous >>19589257

FWTDHWAHQUD status~ downloading Robinhood

>>19618034
Based. Retail FOMO is off the hook rn.

>>19616796
so if you don't want to play the gold:silver ratio you have no business buying silver?

>>19617980
Buy the superior asset with a limit to the horizontal axis

>>19617980
Fuck bros, I want Monarch poured silver bars but boomers buy that shit up so fast on JM bullion its always sold out

Redpill me on Sovereigns

I'm strictly buying silver Morgans only right now.

Expanded list of PM youtubers--

Uneducated Economist
Maneco64
Palisade Radio
Mining Stock Education
belangp
Dominic Frisby: Money, Markets & Other Matters
Peter Schiff
Mike Maloney
Gregory Mannarino
McAlvany Financial
George Gammon
Illuminati Silver
Greg Hunter
Daniel Pronk
Neil McCoy Ward
I Love Prosperity
Liberty and Finance
Kitco News
Arcadia Economics
Katusa Research
Gold and Alternative Investments
GoldMoney
Baby Farm - Stock Market Research
Cambridge House International
ITM Trading, Inc
Silver Bullion TV
Trader University
John Howell
Andrei Jikh
Bull Boom - Bear Bust
Epic Economist
Gold and Silver Assets
Gold Newsletter
Investing News
Mises Media
Ron Paul - Liberty and Finance
RoadtoRoota
SD Bullion
TheDailyGold
Noble Gold Investments
Ian Smith
SilverDoctors
Elite Investor TV
As Good As Gold Australia

>>19618225
Way too high of premiums. Bad time to buy IMO

Are eagles worth the premium over generic silver?
I usually try to go for closest to spot but at this point you can't even get a 100oz bar for less than 21$/oz. If your'e already paying $22 for buffalos it might be worth $26 for eagles. I can't justify a 15% premium on something that isn't a premium item.

>>19618335
Bad time to buy those as well

>>19618335
Of course not.

>>19618373
Bad time to buy every rn but I want more

Shill me a biotech company in Israel and I will put a cheeky 100€ on it

>>19618335
https://www.scottsdalemint.com/product/10-oz-scottsdale-stacker-silver-bar-secondary-market/

https://findbullionprices.com/collection/10-oz-Silver-Bars/

>>19618446
Avoiding Scottsdale desu still waiting on pic related ordered April 24th, lady I spoke with today said they just finished March should be at least two more weeks.
Thanks for the link though friend I'm def looking for smaller this round

>>19618304

Thank you for reposting this list. Just adding a few more channels to it which I overlooked before:

Life Growth Academy
Physical Gold Fund
WallStForMainSt
The Atlantis Report
Nugget's News
FSN GoldandSilver
Cooper Academy - Investing

>>19618335
I go middle ground, 1 Oz gov coins on sale can be pretty close to generic rounds in price.

>>19618638
That's what she told me when I called her two weeks ago lol
Get it together, Scottsdale!

>>19618774
yw, thank you for the resources fren!

>>19618638
>>19618880
FWIW I heard that if you order from Scottsdale through their official ebay it'll get shipped right away.
I've never done it, just what I heard. I think it's messed up, but maybe I'm just salty because the coins I want to order from them aren't sold through their ebay store.
Otherwise I'd try it.

>>19618157
kinda sorta. the main appeal to silver is its being so far off its ATH. so yeah, when it corrects and you harvest ideally you go back into gold or other productive assets

>>19618304
see this list and just listen to their episodes. a McAlvany Financial ep not too long ago talked about a guy who upped his Platinum stack over 4x trading between that and Palladium

>>19618335
>Are eagles worth the premium over generic silver?
if you bought in the last 10 years and sell now maybe

2.25 oz gold
250 oz silver

Will I make it? Going to get another 10 oz silver soon

>>19619010
Ebay is more expensive, sellers needs to increase price to account for 10% ebay fee and 3% paypal fee and the buyer gets enforced taxes by ebay

does schiff have corona?

I noticed he is coofing a lot in recent videos

>>19619342
>>19619342
I'm at
1.25oz of gold
155 oz of silver
25$fv 90%

we will make it fren

>>19619396
You're right, that's definitely the case for all of their buy-it-now stuff, I have yet to see anything buy-it-now that's not more expensive than going through their website.
However, it looks like sometimes you can swoop in on the ending-soonest auctions and get bars for $20-$21/oz. Seems like it's mostly the 2x10oz, 5x10oz and 10x10oz auctions. I'm guessing they have an insider bid it right up to $20-$21/oz though.

>>19618175
I was brand new to PMs last month and looking for where to buy chunkies, I ended up at Monarch's site and they had 34 of the 2oz left. I was like cool, might buy some, went to take a shit came back refreshed and there were 5 left. Jesus fuck. And that's how I bought my first 10oz of silver.

>>19619639
>I'm guessing they have an insider bid it right up to $20-$21/oz though.
Thats a serious offense on ebay rules and accounts have been banned for doing just one, assuming they are caught that is

>>19619038
NEED SAUCE NOW

>>19619639
I don't know, Scottsdale has a good reputation... but I'm just waiting for my previous order to shipbefore I buy anything more, ebay or website. I wouldn't want to get caught in a Northwest Territorial mint-type scandal.

>>19619725
It will cost you a mercury dime. Pay up or go court some boomer stock market hags.

got my baby stack together. want more philharmonics they look so damn sexy

>>19619747
I feel very suspicious of them. Their address just leads to some business park mall. Where is the actual mint? I don't trust it.

>>19619760
>>19619038
Gib Sauce

>>19619747
>Northwest Territorial mint-type scandal
What was that?

My order from Scottsdale took about a month. Since they were designated as essential over the virus, a lot of their silver processing has gone towards that since Silver is heavily used medically including ventilators. Throw in increased orders on top of a very limited staff dedicated to personal orders and you get long delays sadly.

>>19619794
The price is firm, fren. If you want the goods then place upon the table a shiny coin of winged liberty clink!

>>19619716
Yeah I guess I shouldn't throw accusations around like that. I'm just speculating. I've been watching their ebay stuff for a while now though, and it always gets bid right upto the same amounts. Could be just people like me trying to swoop in and get a reasonable deal during these crazy premiums. I don't see how they would get caught if they were to do it carefully though. Separate accounts, CCs, addresses, etc... hypothetically.
Again, I don't want to bear false witness. But I've yet to see their stuff go for $19/oz or less.

>>19619796
https://www.moneymetals.com/news/2016/05/23/northwest-territorial-mint-scandal-000870

Yeah I'm pretty sure Scottsdale is legit. They've been around for a while, their products are top notch. I plan to order a whole bunch more from them after my previous order gets here.

But at the same time, it's been 7 weeks now...

>>19619662
Imagine what will happen if normies get into Precious metals, the shortages will be endless. I'm *still* waiting on an order of 100 maple leafs I purchased in March.

>>19619786
You know, I've never actually looked into that. Do other mints have business admin offices that are separate from the actual minting facility? I'm guessing it's not unusual, but I've never been so far as to look into that...

>>19619826
GIB SAUCE NOW

>>19617980

Is this site legit? https://www.europeanmint.com/
Don't see it in the bulion dealers, but it seems alright.

>>19617980
Those bars are excellent. I like that they are so crisp and stack. OCD vibes

love this boomer

>>19620302
Imagine being the guy machining silver all day. I wonder if he pockets the chips.

Can anyone recommend the best way to buy gold and silver with crypto in Spain?

>>19620485
Do it like your ancestors did and go pillage the new world

>>19620149
Is this what you're looking for?
https://fuskator.com/thumbs/hoaUblTv8Zx/Skinny-Shaved-Babe-Kristy-AZ-from-Met-Art.html

https://www.thenude.com/Kristy%20Az_1631.htm#bio

https://www.metart.com/model/kristy-az/

Just went to my LCS and they had generic silver at $20oz and ASE's for $22.5oz. should I buy everything they have?

>>19620843
Only if you use your cc

>>19618157
I only have gold and merc dimes.

>>19620862
My conceal carry?

>>19618446
>>19618638
>>19618880
>>19619010
I order through their ebay and get all my shipments within 3 days. Their ebay account was how they started and holds most of their customers. They will process ebay orders daily, and leftover time is there for the main site weekly. My last shipment I got my 5x 10oz bars in 3 days.

It is worth it to know that you can actually get cheaper prices on there ebay, just don't spend more bidding than normal. I'll usually get $20 knocked off the premium for my purchases. I just check their site, set my price limit for the item and don't bid over my set limit.

>>19620979
Good to know, fren, thanks for the info! so when you say $20 off premium, how does that work out... you mean $20 less than it would have been through their main site? If you're talking about 5x10ozs, so like $.40 less per oz?
That's an extra oz, every bit helps...

>>19620843
ASE's for $22.50 would be hard to pass up.

>>19620232
Well yes, I bought these boys there. Shipping is pretty expensive though.

>>19621243
Patrician taste on the heron coin

>>19621274
Thanks fren, sadly the europeanmint doesn’t have the herron one in stock anymore

>>19620485
jmbullion, sdbullion, and apmex all accept crypto.
I've never actually done it though, please let us know how it works for you~

>>19621243
I hope those bats are worth something one day. I have a bunch of them

>>19620743
Thank you fren

reminder that if you invest in metal you are retarded and not going to make it. I'm not going to buy your bat coins and no one else will, ever.

>>19621409
Hey you can at least give them to your (grand)kids someday and say that your survived the 2020 Kungflu

>>19621409
better fucking be i bought a frosty boy

>>19621562
>he doesn't know
i'm so sorry for you fren

35 oz silver, 1/10 oz gold, $6 FV pre-64 quarters

>>19621725
I have a frosty as well fren.

>>19622089
I wish I could get 1oz gold coins sub 1400 dollars again

>>19622089
How the fuck did you get one ounce of gold for less than 50 ounces of silver

>>19622089
Nevermind I realize that’s good pesos

When does Pan Man usually post? Excited to get his take about new mining news and stocks. Said he would be in town today

>>19622564
Hope to hear from him as well, I would like to maybe one day go panning or digging for gold but I have no idea how to start, seems exciting.

>>19618774

Six more good Youtube channels:

Departures Capital
Alhambra Investments
TheGoldandSilverClub
Equitymaster - Independent Stock Market Research
Daily Investing Advice
Real Vision Finance

>>19622564
It'll be another 3-4+ hours at least, it's light until almost 10PM out here now

how are ya doin today fellow stackers

>>19621537
yw fren

>>19619786
I just got an order from them 2 days ago. Good to go.

>>19597760
>>19597760
>>19597760

>>19623133
>Real Vision Finance
garbage

>>19623227
How do those fillies feel? It rubs me the wrong way that they don't have needed edges.

>>19623612
excellent, the fine detail on the coin is incredible, especially reverse. Smooth edge doesn't bother me, actually it makes it feel more like a piece of art than just bullion

>>19623612
btw picked phillies over maples and don't regret the decision

>>19623495

They have interviews with Jim Rickards, Peter Schiff, and James Turk. 9 months ago they warned "The Next Financial Crisis Will Be Bigger Than 2008," and said that a recession was coming in 2020. ("5 Obvious Indicators a Recession Is Coming in 2020.") They also recommended buying silver 3 weeks ago. ("Why Silver? Why now?") So, no.

>>19622564
Just got home, making something to eat and a shower, I did some reading while i was in town, not a lots been happening on the exploration side for a few weeks news wise, but I did see Talisker Resources has been getting some interesting results at their Bralorne Property in BC. Also New Gold just sold off their new major Blackwater project to Artemis Gold for $190 million.

>>19622678
whats your region, I can hone you in on areas to explore, learning to actually find gold however is a lot of research and leg work.

>>19619766
BASED AGGIE

>>19619766
All Aggie stackers report in

I'm either going to blow $700 on an ancient coin worth 2k (but not rn bc of corona), or buy silver. What do bros?

Also, I bought 3 ASE's today for $80. Never doing that shit again

>>19624184
>They also recommended buying silver 3 weeks ago. ("Why Silver? Why now?")
That video where they blocked the comments?
Lol.

>>19624704
you were raped.

>>19624391
I live in southern Nevada, I know we're the Silver State and shit and there's a bunch of abandoned mines near my area but they're abandoned for a reason, also very spooky. I would like to hear some advice, here's something I picked up at the shop for $20

>>19623780
Terrible decision

>>19624790
Yeah, all their generic rounds were total shit tho

>>19618335
To me they are, you can't beat the design.

r8

>>19624823
why?

>>19620061
Most people will be looking to sell any metals they might have because the real dip/recession hasn't happened yet.

>>19624911
looks a little chunky
4/10

>>19624911
8 cunt coins and a based bar.

>>19624819
o I love that little bar! I love those sorts of older style cast ingots.

Ok, Nevada has some incredible mineralization belts, places like Virginia City and dozens of other smaller camps that only lasted a few years. For placer gold, your options are limited, as its often whats called "dry wash" ground where there is limited water. Hard rock is plentiful but often still owned by private holders. Use https://thediggings.com/ to find info on your states regs and mineral hotspots close to you. I can go further into details but it gets complicated fast.

>>19624911
8/100

>>19624944
How difficult do you think it would be to load up a truck bed of gold ore from someone's private claim and get away with it? Are there people who make a living doing this?

>>19624911
sexy.
would look again.

>>19624771

I'm not saying it's the best channel in the world, but I've posted every channel I know which has something of value to offer. The best ones are obviously the Maloneys, the Schiffs, the Mannarinos, the Gammons, the Maneco64s, etc.

>>19624911
very based/10

>>19624967
belangp is my favourite rn.
I think real vision is too.. mainstreamy, too corporate.

>>19624704
Seems high now until that shit goes to $100 per ounce.

>>19624911
god i wish Canada still used PMs for coinage.

>>19624944
So I looked it up and here's some closed mines and stuff, Would I just want to go where there are those mining hotspots and just start looking? A lot of land is BLM owned so I believe that it would make it harder to find a spot not govt. owned. How likely am I to get screwed if I dig with no permit or anything like that? Would people even notice?

>>19617980
based Scottsdale

>>19625118
Forgot pic

>>19624961
I wouldnt suggest doing it from an active claim, if it looks like someones working the ground you could get shot for claim jumping. If its an abandoned site that has stayed abandoned for 20+ years no ones going to give a dam about you running off with a truck load. Find a nice mid value abandoned mine on that website, check the last time someone registered work, and if its nothing recent go for it. There are literally hundreds of them out there.

There are for sure people who "high grade" old mines but I dont think they do it to make a living, most of its rock hounds or hobby prospectors looking for cool samples.

>>19624916
It’s been universally agreed upon that phils look gay

>>19625118
if the claims abandoned on BLM land, its basically free rain to explore. Just because the land is owned doesnt mean the mineral rights are, double check the regs around that though, I am not up on Nevada law.

Only busy bodies would care if your digging in the middle of nowhere. If your going to go have a look around some of these old mines, I implore you to not go underground. Have a look for the "ore bin" structure. It will be where the highest value ore will be found. Watch out for open workings near surface.

'evening gents!

>>19625189
that's very homophobic.

>>19625264
Faggot

>>19625185
Cool, any tips on panning like how far off the path you should go, how long to do it in a certain area, signals and stuff. Is it all based on luck as well? I know you got some nice ratios in gram/ton for your claim but how do you determine whether or not it's worth your time if you're not successful early on?

>>19625264
Good evening. Stacks are stacked.

>>19623780
Fuck queen coins and fuck jannies

>>19625305
great questions.

for panning, I suggest looking at Askjeffwilliams on Youtube, he can explain all the processes of looking for placer better than I can on a single post.

As for figuring out if a hard rock site is worth continuing to explore early on, its mostly based on assay results and technical info. Usually your looking at an area because something showed up on magnetic mapping or because there were previous showings discovered nearby. The more guys look at the ground, the easier it becomes to determine if its worth keeping. I could go further but i ll probably start gabbling technical gibberish.

Gonna throw couple more PM youtubers out there:
Flour Gold Wizards for the comedy
Junius Maltby for the schizos
Strategic Wealth Preservation for the kino

>>19625601
ask, and you shall receive
https://youtu.be/SF362xxcfdk?t=207

>>19625631

Best site to buy bullion in the UK? Looking to buy sovereign coins cuz notax.

>>19625573
Great info man, I appreciate it and I wish you luck

>>19625910
going back out to check a spot i ve never looked into before, middle of nowhere, spotted something that looks like old workings on google earth that don't match any claim records, could be very interesting.

>>19625851
https://findbullionprices.com/collection/Britannia-Silver-Coins/

>>19624297
Welcome friend. Is it still good to buy Skeena, Pretium, and did I miss the Pure Gold boat or is it still good to jump on that one?

I am interested in your thoughts on any other miners. I saw you mention Xinmen and someone else, forgot but I wrote it down somewhere ill have to look. Or any other miners like Alio and Hecla or First Majestic. I did see those mentioned a lot weeks ago.

Or any mining related stocks not just miners in specific. Or ETF's if that is your thing. NUGT for example. Or Oil in general.

Just looking to get some stocks in instead of buying more physical which is what I want to do but I do not mind going for some growth to use the profits to buy even more physical, but I dont mind losing it either. I understand the game here is risky.

>>19625975
Nice, you should be armed my friend, I know if I were to go out I'll be.
>>19626139
I also saw Hecla and will probably invest in that one, but I'm primarily investing in AUMN and looking at their debt/equity ratio, current mines and the next project their starting up in Nevada, I believe that they will shoot up in price once they report earnings for the 2nd quarter as they will announce more about their new project. I think in 5-10 years we'll see any gold/silver stock explode, this one is small too, around .4

>>19626139
Skeena and Pretivm are still good buys, Pure Gold have been busy and just started drilling again recently for underground targets the surface drilling was having trouble reaching.

For other companies I would suggest looking into Artemis Gold, they just bought a major project from New Gold for major cash. Xinmen is a junior that is currently trying to build a land portfolio that they can explore and than sell off. One I would look into but be cautious of is Nova Gold, they have had a few issues recently that investors are concerned about, they have been in the news recently because of it.

There is a lot out there, if you want better info than what I can provide, go have a look over at Mining.com's news section.

I cant really get to deep into the stocks unfortunately, there are too many to look at once and the ones I know about keep changing hands / names, its not my area of expertise anyway, I just keep track of what the miners themselves are up to.

Sorry Gents, I asked last thread but I only got a reply about a site that I'd found by googling.

Best sites or most trustworthy for CanadAnons? Most of the sites listed in the header are shipping to US only...

Thanks in advance.

>TD banks premiums can be a bit too high at times...

I have 100oz of silver already, do I keep stacking it, or finish out my first full oz of gold with fractionals?

>>19625639
I heard this picture.

>>19626408
>AUMN
Interesting, I have other things to read up on my list first but ill add this one and get to it later in time
>>19626417
>xinmen
I admit the name still throws me off given how Chinese it is. Artemis sounds promising and Xinmen too.
>nova gold
The lying over Donlin project in Alaska to investors? Their chairman addressed it but obviously denied it
>mining.com
Ah, nice thanks for this one. Ill lurk and read.

>>19626932
Gold

>>19625264
>1/1000 th of an ounce of gold

The premiums must be insane.

>>19626770
I buy from silvergoldbull

>>19627149
I had come across them yesterday, but they weren't an 'official' dealer for the Royal Canadian Mint, so obviously I was a little concerned.

I can buy direct from TD, but their premiums are various: sometimes it's fine (they have a good price for specialties) but for bullion they're higher than independent dealers.

Any others you guys can recommend? Have no stack yet, so looking to start. Thx.

>>19618158
>*mines an asteroid*

>>19625002
This. Just bought a tube of silver eagles. I checked pic related, then made the choice. Even with premiums as high as this, I still think I’m getting a deal. >>19624704
>>19619038
>>19618335
>>19618157
Pic related puts the ratio at a 8:1 s/g

>>19627291
fuck dude if the ratio hits that low..damn even as a stacklet I will have over 20 oz of gold

>>19626932
>finish out my first full oz of gold with fractionals?
try to stick to 1/4 toz and heavier. the premiums on lower pieces will make you sad.
>>19627190
silvergoldbull is reputable, and you wont have issues ordering from them.
Youll find TD is comparable (on many pieces) to a lot of online dealers. I've gotten many pieces of fractional gold for great prices, from TD.
IRL dealers will always have better prices.

Should I buy GLD or SLV instead of just miners or any other ETFs?

>>19627380
If you look for deals you can find fractional gold for a low premium. I like to think of it as junk gold.

Example: https://monumentmetals.com/swiss-gold-20-francs-helvetia-dates-our-choice

Gold is gold

>>19627434
https://monumentmetals.com/swiss-gold-20-francs-helvetia-dates-our-choice.html proper link

>>19627380
IRL as in 'walk-in' or brick and mortar?

I have no qualms buying from TD; it's convenient for me. But since I've never bought PMs, I wanted to know if there was anything I was missing or if I was getting robbed...lol They are a bank, after all...

Regarding TD actually; they have their own coinage and bullion. Should I stay away? (they're not as pure as Royal Mint...999 vs. 9999.) They're cheaper...and as >>19627434
says, 'gold is gold'. Any reason to avoid other than they'd be harder to sell than Royal Can. Mint stuff.

Thanks for the wisdom. You anons are the best.

>>19627422

Please don't even consider it. Chris Marcus of Arcadia Economics deals with manipulation in these fraudulent markets. It might be coming to an end any day now. Watch some of his most recent videos.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ArcadiaEconomics/videos

>>19627511
What do you suggest then

>>19627473
As in walk in local coin/bullion dealer.

>>19627602
How do you know that the merchandise is legit though? At least with TD, the argument could be made that they're not selling stolen or fraudulent goods. Also, they're an 'official' seller for the Royal Can. Mint, and I only intend to buy RCM bullion. In other words, I'm not a coin collector, I'm simply thinking of transferring some of my funds into PMs.

With a local coin/bullion dealer, how to I guarantee authenticity of their merch?

>>19627680
Any local coin shop worth their salt also gets coins straight from the mint, as a matter of fact many individuals form their own llcs that imply they are bullion dealers just to be able to also buy from a mint. Bullion dealers can make a lot of money doing what they do, and they often do not find it worth their time to let a fake coin make it's way into their inventory, first off it's a serious felony to sell fraudulent silver and if it's a coin minted by the u.s. treasury/mint it's a crime that the secret service deems worthy of investigating. Pretty much all coin shops have instruments that are able to tell fakes from the real coins. It's pretty easy to tell if a coin is fake with simple test that do not require any damage to be done to the coins/bars. And for large deals they meticulously validate each and every single piece of bullion .

>>19627680
Avoid pawn shops and basically any other stores that don't specialize in selling/buying bullion.

>>19627473
as in, brick and mortar.
>Regarding TD actually; they have their own coinage and bullion. Should I stay away?
Generic bullion will only ever be sold for spot or less, maples will usually hold a small premium. Nothing wrong with generic bullion, though; especially when youre stacking for value.
Personally, i do not like the generic bank bullion. My entire silver stack is RCM and Royal Mint, which makes me feel that much more comfy.
>>19627680
>With a local coin/bullion dealer, how to I guarantee authenticity of their merch?
My dealer has several ways to verify the authenticity of the PMs in a piece of metal, using several machines. General consensus is that theyre trustworthy machines.
Im about as skeptical as you, so this is what it took for me to trust buying PMs from someone, that is not a bank.
pic related is my shitty scotiabank bar i bought from scotiabank.

I want to buy gold, do I buy before or after the crash?

>>19627527

1) CGT-free physical

2) Allocated bullion in Goldmoney or BullionVault

3) GDX, GDXJ, SIl, SILJ

>>19627857
Both, dollar cost average

>>19618304
>PM youtubers
All brainlets.

>>19627843
I like generic, and basically once a mint develops a good reputation for themselves they seem to command the same recognition as state minted bullion from dealers.

>>19627857
>I want to buy gold, do I buy before or after the crash?
This >>19627901
Never stop buying PMs.
>>19627928
I dont disagree, just a preference.

Thanks to everyone! Lots for me to learn.
>>19627792
Didn't know any of that, so thanks for making me feel at ease a bit. I'll start shopping around. I want to stack 10 oz and maybe 100oz bars, coins don't interest me at all.

>>19627811
Duly noted. Makes sense.

>>19627843
Thanks for letting me know about the difference. TD has their own bullion, but it's 999 instead of 9999 pure, so I thought RCM would be better for the long run because it seems like it's a kind of 'high standard' that is recognizable regardless of the economic pressure. In other words, someone would be more likely to want to buy an RCM bar instead of a TD bar. That's what I'm thinking, anyway.
The TD bars don't look any better, desu. I figure it's a bank that isn't going under unless Canada goes under, but still. I like the idea that RCM is respected worldwide, or at least they are advertised as such (same with American Eagles and shit).

What do you guys think? Thanks again. I appreciate it a lot.

>>19627999
checked.
RCM is your route if youre looking for standard and reputation. They are literally recognized as high quality; worldwide.
If youre being nitpicky about $ value, then dont worry about a few generics; or even a whole stack of generics.
10toz Britannia is nice, though

>>19628370
Well, I plan to stay in Canadia for the rest of my natural life, so I'd only be selling off the PMs here. One other question though: if I have the choice of buying gold or silver, is there any reason not to buy gold? Probably a loaded question, but it's something that has been bothering me lately. For instance, the ratio doesn't have any purpose unless I buy silver at a high ratio and transfer it to gold in a low ratio, but I'd be losing on the premium if I did so, and it would only be worth it if the ratio change was enough to equal or offset the premium losses for the sell and buy. So, ultimately, is there any reason for me to buy silver at all, or should I just stack gold?

>>19628370
Do they stack? I hate non stackable things. So I usually get the 10oz scottsdale stacker bars

>>19628461
>So, ultimately, is there any reason for me to buy silver at all, or should I just stack gold?
DCA into both.

>>19628609
No, theyre not that great at stacking.

>>19628669
DCA? No idea what that is. Help!

>>19628694
DCA is 'Dollar Cost Averaging'. It lowers your $ average, due to buying over a consistent period of time, regardless of price (to a certain point).

>>19628694
Dollar cost averaging. You set aside a monthly amount you're going to invest into stocks, or gold, or silver, and you spend that much each month or quarter or whatever. Say you set aside $800 each monthly paycheck. That 800 is ear marked for PMs, with say, 500 for gold and 300 for silver.

Some months this gets you a lot of metal, some months less, but it forces you to keep doing some buy in, and takes a lot of the guesswork out of investing.

>>19628742
I don't understand. Why not just keep buying gold? In other words, if the purpose of buying silver is to leverage it into gold when the ratio is better than when you bought, why not just buy gold from the get-go? Is gold going to go lower than the natural inflation of fiat currency to the point where it will in fact be better to buy silver in order to convert to gold at some unknown point? I need clarity on the strategy.

>>19628773
That makes sense, but I do that already with my investments into stocks and shit. Granted, I'm not far into it: I buy into mutual funds because I can't do the due diligence minute-to-minute that I'd have to in order to do it on my own. With PMs, they're entirely new to me as a %, so the question to me is whether or not to just go full into gold and forget the silver, because at the moment I can't find a justification if the whole point of silver is to have something that gets me into gold in the future. In other words, the reason to diversify into PMs is already tenuous...but to further diversify between gold and silver seems unjustifiable.

>>19628855
peoples strategies vary.
you shouldnt be fixated on the ratio of gold:silver.

>>19628855
The idea of buying silver now instead of gold is that you don't care what the actual $ values are, just the ratio of the prices to each other. No matter what the prices are today, if I bought 100 oz of silver at a silver to gold ratio of 96:1, I'm holding until that ratio is sufficiently narrowed down, say to 60:1. If it goes up instead, I just wait. Once it hits 60:1, even if the actual dollar values are wildly different than they are now, I can still sell off my silver and use that money to buy more gold than I would have been able to had I sold the silver at a ratio of 96:1.

Silver has always been cheaper than gold in history, but not THIS much cheaper. The US constitution had an enforced ratio of like 15.5:1. Its insane that you can buy either 96oz of silver or one of gold right now. Money spent on silver is still safe in the sense that its not like its going to go to zero like some shitty pennystock. But its making a bet that you're moving out of the metal down the road into gold, which is what everyone wants.

You can go all gold, sure. But putting some into silver is pretty a low risk investment for a sensible chance of 'upgrading' in the future.

>>19627999
The thing with coins is that in some countries the sales tax is not applied to coins because they are sovereign currencies or something. All I know is that their appeal is mainly from tax reasons.

>>19629038
Then what's the point of the ratio? If it's not important, why does the ratio matter?

>>19629056
What you say makes sense. Has it happened historically? In other words, is there precedent for this kind of change in ratio, and did anyone profit from it?
I read the pic you posted, but already some of it doesn't make sense. For instance, there's a claim that '90% above ground silver is already mined'. Is this statistically confirmed (and how can it be unless we know how much silver is in the earth to begin with)? Furthermore, how do we know that silver is finite (given that we'd likely start mining asteriods before we exhaust silver and gold on Earth). I can accept the hypothesis that the banks are running a con job regarding silver, and that the average person doesn't do any research into this. Similarly, it's easy to accept the materialism argument, however that could be explained easily by simple consumerism and how it generates profits: if you have pre-determined obsolescence in products, then people are forced into upgrading due to lifestyle necessity.

But the general concept of 'there's a conspiracy to prevent the average joe from holding their wealth in the only stable currency in the history of the world so that they'll be screwed when hyperinflation inevitably kicks in' requires quite a lot of fundamental occurrences to take place.

For instance: is the only reason that major companies, banks, and billionaires do not have the vast majority of their wealth in PMs in order to avoid tipping off the average consumer to the ploy? Because if the inevitable crash were to occur, we'd see these billionaires buying up all the PMs to store their wealth, which would drastically increase the desirability and thus make the price shoot up, well beyond the means of anyone else anyway. Why wait? There's no reason to artificially keep the prices for Silver low if the pleb won't be able to afford them anyway when the shit hits the fan. Help!

>>19627996
Don't mind my poorfag cope.

>>19625291
What makes you think that poster is afraid of gays?

>>19629173
Thanks! I'm gonna have to look into this in Canada and see what they view it as. Basically, I was recommended by my financial adviser to consider PMs as an option for holding wealth. So, I'm trying to learn as much as I can before pulling the trigger. I'll see if there are any tax implications.

>>19629192
>Has it happened historically
Gold silver ratio in 2011 was 32

>>19629287
But wasn't that when silver shot up? Did any of you sell at that point to make gains? Did anyone sell at that point, or were holders of silver thinking it would go higher?

>>19629192
>Then what's the point of the ratio? If it's not important, why does the ratio matter?
DYOR
>>19629216
silver and gold of .999 minimum purity is tax exempt in Canada

>>19629192
It's hard to make accurate predictions based of past historical outcomes. My most bullish case for precious metals revolves around mediating on the actual amount of real money (gold,silver,platinum group metals) compared to the amount of debt that exsist, whether through different fiat currencies and stonks/bonds/ paper contracts. You begin to realize how fucking broke the world is, literally and figuratively.

>>19627142
They're 2x-3x spot, IIRC.

>>19629192
That part of the post is the writing messing up I assume. The problem with talking about unmined reserves is that it runs on the basis of current technology, and even our deepest operations aren't anywhere close to the mantle. There really is a limit in terms of mining depth for human survival based on heat and pressure, and beyond that limits to what unmanned machines can do. The thing with silver mining is that a large portion of it comes as a byproduct of base metals mining, so when the price of silver is low (like it is now) you can't afford to run the mines in Mexico and Peru that purely extract silver. We also can make very good estimates about planet compositions, and we do it for places beside earth all the time. Its not really a question of when we run out of silver in teh ground, but when we run out of silver we can actually reach, and when we run out of silver ore that it makes financial sense to reach.

As far as making more and more products that need silver, I don't really buy it since we recycle PMs out of electronic scrap. But you better start believing in conspiracy theories dude, you live in one. Any reasonable society would have hung the people who started the Federal Reserve. Money printing is already theft against your cash savings, why not just drop their money to zero as the prestige of the vanishing act?

As to the last point, its funny you should ask that, since JPM ate up a fucking massive share of the physical silver starting in the aftermath of subprime. They have been buying it up, while keeping price low, so you don't catch on, and they can get it on a discount.

HONK HONK HONK

>>19629344
How does JPM buy tons of silver while suppressing the price at the same time?

>>19629311
DYOR? Again, I'm lost.

.999 purity is tax exempt? Awesome! Thx.

>>19629316
It's funny about how broke the world is...it seems from my point of view that every country owes another country, with none of them actually having a solid ledger (except the aforementioned Norway).

So basically it comes down to this:

1) Gold is a solid investment no matter what.
2) Silver is a solid investment if you buy low and sell high in order to get into more gold.
3) The ratio only matters if you're doing 2).
4) There is no predictability for the ratio, so you have to guess in order to make a profit.
5) if the world ends, you're better off than anyone who hasn't put some of their wealth into PMs.

Is that about right?

>>19629344
Fair points all around. Is the strategy then for the average pleb like me to buy my worth in silver in hopes of....silver running out and the value skyrocketing and then selling? Why I would I sell if I don't know when the highest point would be? Wouldn't the natural emotional reaction be, 'it'll go higher tomorrow, so wait to sell'...

Also >>19629360 brings up a good point: how can tonnes of a commodity like silver be bought but not have affected the price?

>I'm not opposed to conspiracy theories...I just want to understand why I should park money in a shiny rock.

>>19625252

>>19629414
i need to print off a bunch of these and post them with a cookie jar at the entrances of old mines....

>>19629360
>>19629385
Because there are about 170 'paper' ounces of silver in existence, being traded in EFTs, for every single real ounce of metal. That means the spot price is primarily dictated by silver that is yet to be mined. And they own enough of these to basically short silver, keeping the price suppressed while only they, and a bunch of neets on 4chan go for physical delivery. Remember, while you're supposed to report holdings, you're supposed to obey the law all time too, and being that rich means you can do a lot of non-reporting.

Guess what happens when everyone with EFTs decides they want to cash out for their silver bars?

>>19629385
The idea is more or less to get the same spending power as gold by buying up the undervalued silver to gold ratio, you wouldn't want to trade your silver for more gold at the peak silver to gold ratio. Best thing to do would be to buy land or other assets so when the ratio inevitably fluctuates or gets manipulated then you have a better chance of retaining that spending power.

>>19629472
>Guess what happens when everyone with EFTs decides they want to cash out for their silver bars?
They get their silver bars and live happily ever after? Or There isnt enough to go around and prices move in weird directions and they realize they fell for a IOU scam

>>19629385
>DYOR
do your own research
>silver vs gold
Silver and gold are considered real money. Gold has historically held it's value as real money, the king of kings. However, the scales have the potential to tip because silver's industrial uses are incredible, it's mined at 10:1 ratio to gold but hte price is closer to 100:1, and it's faced very real price manipulation at the hands of JPM. Basically a perfect storm for silverbug speculation. Gold is reliable but I think it has a much weaker industrial outlook. If you want pure reliability just go gold. If you want to take your chances on something that's reliable AND has the potential to moonshot get some silver.

>>19629385
Tax isnt applied when you buy/sell.
However, capital gains tax will likely be a thing when you sell. CRA reporting is dependant on the buyer, though.
>DYOR? Again, I'm lost.
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=DYOR
The way youre holding conversation seems artificial.

>>19629472
>Guess what happens when everyone with EFTs decides they want to cash out for their silver bars?
>EFT
Do you mean ETF?
If so, delivery can only be taken on VERY large amount of PMs. Buying into an ETF for PMs should be short term speculative, not long term.

>>19629472
Yeah, I've never understood the point of ETFs; you don't hold the metal in your hand, and there doesn't seem to be any guarantee that they can be traded for the real material. Considering though that if your hypothesis is correct, that they might, '...do a lot of non-reporting', then doesn't it suggest that silver is also a fiat of sorts, and therefore is subject to the same dangers and problems that we're trying to get away from by buying PMs in the first place?

>>19629483
So then, the purpose of diversifying in PMs is to have spending power, not transfer from silver to gold when the ratio is favorable. Is that right?

>>19629505
Okay. Thanks re: dyor. Is there evidence about price manipulation from JPM? If so, why haven't they been, I don't know, brought under investigation by someone? (I know, naive question, but I don't know how else to word it). In other words, why are Anons on a basketweaving forum the only ones who can figure this out, but financial advisers for big banks who have much more information at their hands can't?

>>19629507
So I have to report PMs to my accountant? It's not income: if I buy PMs, then I'm simply transacting cash into a PM...that doesn't make sense.

I'm holding a conversation that seems artificial? Um...okay. How do I make it sound less Zuckerberg?

>>19629385
Also you aren't hoping for silver to 'run out', you're hoping that the shell game stops. Basically like you said, everyone owes everyone and just prays that the system keeps running smoothly so nobody notices. Wuflu was a hiccup, and we saw COMEX scrounging high and low to field requests for physical delivery. Another plus for silver (which is wildly speculative) is that it would be a strategic choice for the USA if it introduced a federal crypto, backed in PM. Gold has been allegedly hoarded by China, Russia, and BRICs countries, so why compete with their metal. Your neighbors in Latin America are full of silver anyway, so go with that.

And your fear about when to sell is the same as you'd deal with in any asset or investment. Set a cap right now in your head about what your cashing out point is, and where you'd reinvest in undervalued assets.

>>19629547
>So I have to report PMs to my accountant? It's not income: if I buy PMs, then I'm simply transacting cash into a PM...that doesn't make sense.
>I'm holding a conversation that seems artificial? Um...okay. How do I make it sound less Zuckerberg?
youre mocking me.
i hope you spend all your $ buying fake silver and worthless copper coins.

>>19629554
Okay..that makes sense. Mexico has a lot of silver, right? At least they did when I was a kid. But why would other countries backed by gold be happy trading with a conglomerate that chose to be backed by silver? Wouldn't either side try to force the other into using their own standard? No one wins in that scenario except the gold-backed, because it's historically more valuable, right? So USA and Mexico lose in that scenario. Something seems off.

Your final point makes sense, I'll keep it in mind.

>>19629574
No, I'm not mocking you. I thought I made it clear: I've never bought PMs, my financial adviser recommended it to me as an option to look into for investment preservation, but I don't know the ins and outs of this at all.

If I buy a 10oz bar, for instance, do I claim that with my accountant? Isn't it my property like a phone or a computer or a car? And furthermore, if I resell it, wouldn't the tax issues come directly from that action, if at all?

>I'm sorry, but none of this makes sense. I just want to know whether or not to buy PMs, but it's stupidly complicated for no reason.

>>19629547
It's very well documented, it's being investigated, and from everything I've ever learned about white collar criminals it's that they simply dont give a fuck because the rewards outweigh the risks.

https://www.ft.com/content/2d7be5a6-d87a-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17

The unknown variables are things like are they still doing it (probably) and how much has JPM accumulated in physical silver (estimates range from like 500 million ounces to 1 billion ounces)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeHkk4bdywY

I'm wary of anyone that's made a career out of harping on a single concept or idea but this gives you a good starting point for what's going on with the manipulation.

>>19629536
You're correct, only institutions with large pockets can afford to get physical delivery, and that ETFs in PMs shouldn't be long term holds, but that's not how they're sold to plenty of clueless boomers and pensioners. Its a perfect scam really. In the event that the cards come crashing down, and people rush to get 'their metal' only the big players are likely to get any, and Joe Blow gets the price of his shares in USD, which presumably at that point is monopoly money.

>>19629491
The intention is that only big boys get to claim metal in the event the ETF dies. That is a feature and not a flaw.

>>19629610
Buy it for cash sell it for cash and fuck the government. They get theirs every fucking way they possibly can and if I can get out of it in some small way as a pathetic wagecuck then I'm sure as fuck gonna do it. Billionaires dodge taxes on a scale in one year that I wouldnt cover in 10 lifetimes working at this job. Fuck taxes fuck the gubmint fuck the queen and fuck jannies.

>>19629610
If youre buying physical silver, then there is no need to involve an accountant.
If youre selling physical silver, that is a different story; and that will depend on whether the BUYER of your silver reports that purchase (your SALE) to the CRA. The only possible tax, is capital gains tax.

i've been out of the loop, are there any silver coins stamped with the face of chauvin or floyd?

If I invest my worthless fiat into mining stocks and the economy goes severely tits up and the dollar tanks and all that and people flee to gold and silver what happens to my worthless fiat I dumped into mining stocks?

when is silver goyna moon lads, i haven't had a decent bj in over 4 months.............

>>19629622
Thanks, I'll look into it. This whole thing is a deeper well than I imagined.

>>19629646
Well, I appreciate the sentiment, but I'm someone who does things 'by the book', so the more I know, the more I know.

>>19629671
Okay...I'll talk to my accountant about this and see what his advice would be.

Thanks everyone...I'll stop asking questions now. I appreciate your wisdom.

>>19629610
You could forbid people from trading with your rivals, but honestly we'd eventually end up with a foreign exchange rate pretty quick. The biggest issue to me would be trust though. China is probably the least trustworthy nation on earth to let run your currency system, and I say that as a citizen of the country that refuses audits of Ft. Knox. Anyone setting up a PM backed system again would need to have outstanding optics and a buy in. Constant audits of national and bank PM vaults, checking to see if the bullion was real by independent labs, and (the one China would never agree to) a guarantee of non-fuckery. If you're going to have blockchain money for the general population, the fact is you're not going to be anonymous in the sense that your bank teller knows who you are. But randomly having your account zeroed because you post winnie the pooh memes is not going to make foreign investors trust your new money, even if it is literal digital gold.

pic unrelated

Saved almost enough cash to buy an ounce of gold, what do y'all think I should do? Get an ounce or spend it all on silver, right now I have no gold and a small amount of silver, not looking to get rich, I just want to put it into something so the value of my money goes up or atleast stagnates compared to what it's doing now. I know gold is the safer option but is silver a decent wait and see investment right now?

>>19629712
Get 100 oz of silver

>>19629547
Yes

>>19629741
To hold until the GSR goes down or to keep for its own store of value? Its seems like most people on here think that silver is a short run hold for it's volatility but then there's some that seem to believe you should hold it like you hold gold

>>19629788
I'm part of the latter. Time will tell.

I have a big amount of change I have been saving over the years. I want to go through it for any coins that happen to have silver content or be worth money due to their years of mintage.

Pennies Nickles Quarters Dimes, hundreds of pounds.

What should I look out for? I looked up lists and its all articles about "top 10 most valuable pennies sold at auction" and what not.

>>19629712
more upside to silver.
>>19629788
im with you on the latter

>>19629788
The negative thing about volatility with silver is that it can go both ways. To me the risks of holding silver are mitigated by the real possibility of silver being deemed a monetary metal again, which would make the demand sky rocket. It's really hard to say what the value of silver is because it's an asset that's been manipulated for at least 100 years. Seeing all the effort JPM has gone through over the years to short silver has made me pretty bullish on silver so far.

>>19629873
Halves from 1970 and earlier, Quarters and Dimes from 1964 and earlier and Nickels from 1942-1945 all contain silver.
Pennies from 1982 and earlier are made of pure copper and worth around two cents and may or may not be worth keeping. Beyond that, there are a few errors and varieties of new coinage which are worth a bit in higher grades, but you'd have to get a microscope to discern most of them.

>>19629940
ok im going through pennies and i have 20 already pre 1982

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER SILVER CHADS

DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE THE POWER OF POSITIVE THOUGHT! ESPECIALLY COLLECTIVE POSITIVE THOUGHT!

THIS SHIT IS GOING TO REACH $1,000 *EASILY*!
IMAGINE A HOUSEWIFE GOBBLING ON YOUR DICK AND HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER WAITING IN TURN FOR A MERCURY DIME
HOLD THAT THOUGHT AND VISUALIZE IT IN YOUR MIND EVERYDAY AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE STARTING NOW AND IT WILL MANIFEST INTO REALITY. DO IT! I'M NOT JOKING!

VISUALIZE AS OFTEN AND AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE!

EVERYTHING IS ENERGY AND VIBRATION
ATTUNE YOUR VIBRATIONS TO MATCH THAT OF MONEY AND IT WILL FLOW TO YOU

>>19618304
>Katusa Research
this fella. particularly his video called war on gold

>>19629883
That's one thing I'm not too sure about, I mean at this point the rise in industrial demand is only gonna go higher and higher so I don't think they'll let silver get back to that point completely. However just like most of you I do think in our lifetime we'll see the collapse of the dollar and I think more and more people (including some normies) are gonna open there eyes on silver so even if it's not a monetary metal it should be in high enough demand that it's worth something, for all we know these premiums and $21/oz silver is gonna be the lowest it ever goes again, it's all a risk in the end but you won't be in a worse position if your holding silver then if your holding cash no matter what.
>>19630000
I used to save copper pennies and my advice is this, if you really want to hold alot of value, anything comparable to silver and gold your gonna need a shit ton of space, I believe about $50 in pennies filled and entire shoe box that probably weighed like ~50-60 Lbs if I remember, and even that isn't much value held in copper, not to steer you away from it, at the end of the day your still saving value and it can be fun to get a bag of pennies from the bank and search through them, also, I would say save wheat pennies seperately, rolls of those can go for like $3-5 depending on who you sell them to, if your looking for valuable dates keep an eye out for 1931-S and anything pre 1911, that's about the only thing potentially worth going out of your way to find individually I'd say

I have a 1945 and 1955 penny rest are 1960s 70s and couple 82 and 81 an d80

>>19630063
Damn, thats a lot of pennies for nothing. Ill keep at it because a 100% copper penny sounds cool. Ill skip for now and move on to my other coins and do the pennies last.

>>19629940
Lol, I recently took over 6000 pennies, mostly 60s and 70s to coin star because fuck it. I just wanted the pre 1964 silver.

>>19630102
DID SOMEONE SAY COPPER!?

>>19630122
1957 nickle is silver?

>>19630102
I've pulled them out of change for a few years and have about 20 dollars worth. Its mostly just for fun so I don't shoot myself when I go through 10 pounds of change and find no silver.

>>19630152
No, only 1942-1945 were silver.

>>19623495
pleb filtered

>>19624987
>belangp
really good annalists that puts the bigger picture in perspective

>>19625601
>Junius Maltby for the schizos
kek. dude is really far up his own ass and just reads other peoples work. cant say i disagree with him though. posted his video on the history of the "dollar" a while back. it should be required viewing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVG4Uu7pTr0

>>19627907
>doesnt have any alternate sources
NGMI

>>19627999
>TD has their own bullion, but it's 999 instead of 9999 pure
industry standard is only .999 to get on the Good Delivery List

>go through nickles
>all bullshit
>1949 nickle
>get excited
>1949
>depressed again
rip

I wanted to order a Combibar but can't find them anywhere. They will be great to trade in the coming hellscape. anyone bought one of these?

>>19630586
I wanted some too. Almost bought the gold version 50g

>>19626091
This no good to me m8, it only shows US sites. The shipping charges are too large. Looking for UK sites where I can pay in £.

>>19630586
I DIDNT SAVE THE 'SCHIFF PAYS FOR A CANDY BAR WITH 1G OF GOLD' MEME

>>19630740

IM TURNING IN A SCHIZO
I SEE THE END OF THE USA SOON
Should I go all in a spend 90% of my saving on PMs and Crypto?

>>19630782
anon delivers!

>>19621615
I bought one for my baby born this year and wrote a note to tell him why the bat was so funny. He can have it 18 years from now.

>>19630931
Give us the rundown on how you met your wife/GF, I love anon love stories

>>19619038
kek

>>19625482
I want a fucking Combibar SO BAD. But I can't find them anywhere. FUCK.

>>19624936
not enough for doxx :^)

>>19631129
time stamp?

>>19631155
not mine, some other based anon posted it and I saved it

>>19631146
>blonde aryan goddess
OOOHHHH IM G-GONNA
>silver bars on titties
COOOOOOOOOOO-
>trash tattoo
fuck this shit, you just killed my boner. White females shouldn't be allowed to get tattoos, only men.

>>19631269
tattoos in general are degenerate

>>19631279
Yes, but since i only fuck women, i don't give a damn if men get inked.

Just grabbed a few 2020 BU Pandas, one MS70, and some more 5oz bars for weight.
Feels good brahs.

>>19631316
how much did you spend on the pandas? them shits carry a premium that's about as bad as libertads rn

>>19631316
I'd love to get some pandas, but the 30g weight triggers me to no end..
Also, stoopid premiums are off the chart for these coins.

>>19631302
You don't know what you're missing anon. There's nothing more satisfying than getting fucked in the ass...

>>19631401
I know perfectly well actually. Over the years i learned how to hold my shits for a week in my sphincter. After 5-6 days they are rock hard, and the diameter and size of a big monster can. That's when the fun begin. Your body do all what's physically possible to get rid of this giant shit, but with trained anal muscles, you can get it right back in, over and over, stimulating your prostate on the way back. I play with my shit this way as long as i physically can, then when it's not possible to hodl it any longer, i flush it away in the toilets in a last mega shit orgasm.
100% no homo, 100% pleasure.

>>19631372
>>19631395
It's sort of my "tradition" to buy at least 1 BU and 1 MS70 panda of the current year before they dry up (and carry even more of a premium.)
They're usually around $30-35 right now for BU depending on where you look. Graded ones can be $60 or more. The pandas are more of a novelty for me/"my thing" which is why I dont mind spending more.
I'd be fried out of my mind if I suggested stacking them. They're almost never "worth it" in that aspect unless you plan on amassing a collection of as many different years/designs and saving them for decades.

>>19631129
>>19631135
>>19631146
That is how you get milk spots

>>19632325
kek

>>19629360
short futures, buy the real thing

>>19618304
I like spegtacular and robfindstreasure

>>19631146
>tatts
trash

worth buying at these premiums?

>>19634931
the more you buy these premiums, the longer they stay retarded

FORMERLY
WELL
TO
DO

>>19635340
It's hard not to buy :(

>>19636151
try to get as close to spot as you can, im the same way, just tired of 28$ ASEs

>>19636484
Oh, the most I've had to pay for one was 25 and change. It sucks, but could easily be worse.

>>19636484
Back before all the bullshit I was able to get them for $20. So it's not too much more, I just have to accommodate, work a little more, maybe not go out and eat.

>>19629712
Silver first, then gold after you get a comfortable position in silver, and finally platinum if you want to gamble a bit.

>>19629873
Adding onto what Anon at >>19629940 says here:

Silver wartime nickels will have a large mint mark above the dome of Monticello
(and Philadelphia will have a P on it). No big mark, no silver. Mint put them on these nickels with the intent of recalling them later, but never did.

Also, be careful with pennies Dated 1982. Eight (though one is an 'error') varieties exist, and were minted both in copper and zinc that year. Best way to tell is to flip one and listen to the sound it makes. Zinc cents will have a dead sound to them, and copper ones will ring clearly. Can also weigh them (2.5g zinc vs. 3.1 copper).

If you're going to hunt boxes of pennies, look for a list of key (and semi-key) dates to keep with you as you search.

>>19636667
>comfortable position in silver
how much is that in ounces?

>>19632325
Lol...

>>19636484
Why do people love the ASE so much? I’m way more excited for a silver leaf or kangaroo any day of the week.

>>19630027
Based and visualizationpilled

>>19637277
because you don't pay taxes on selling it in the US

>>19629940
I have 3 pennies from 1912-1918

i just got my first 1 oz gold coin an hour ago. are they supposed to be that small? i thought it would be bigger but it's like half the size of my silver 1 oz coins. is that because gold is denser?

>>19637277
You have shit taste.

>>19638269
you got jewed son

>>19638485
if the eagles didn't have the tax implications they did, I would be stacking libertads, pandas, and philharmonics

>>19637924
can yyou expand on this compared to bullion?

>>19636952
I recommend following the Gold-to-Silver Ratio in troy ounces (and Gold-to-Platinum ratio when you calculate it), but that's just me.

>>19638269
>gold is denser than silver
Nailed it in one.

>>19638860
Any coins with stamped FV(ASEs are 1$, Gold eagles come in 5,10,25 i think etc), are exempt from CGT because they are technically just currency. You wouldn't pay tax on exchanging dollars for other dollars, so it is treated the same.

Other countries also have tax advantages for their soveirgn coins, I think maplesdont pay CGT(or VAT?? idk im a burger), in canada


On regular bullion(generics, bars, basically any silver that is not stamped with a US FV) are charged 30%(??) on any profits made.

>>19636952
>how much is that in ounces?
For me it’s my body weight.

I will stack my literal weight in silver and only then will I begin to diversify. Currently at 23 pounds.

>>19630782
>Europe Pacific precious metals and I am holding in my hand the most gram bar is worth about 50 bucks I can take this a bar gold I could just put of gold and now this stick this one little little chip you can see in my hand just how small this sum is
Gets me every time

>>19624662
Gig em

Say, anyone have that based post talking about Krugerrands? Has that pic of Africa being dug out. Will save when I see it next. Thanks in advance!

>>19639330
Fuck Texas

>>19639129
>>19639074
but why do you buy silver?
only to trade it for gold somewhere in the future?

>>19639469
because there are only a few asset classes not denominated in USD. Even foreign stonks are tied to the USD since it is the reserve currency. Your only options to leave the USD is Precious Metals and Crypto

However, this is the first real bear market for crypto to prove itself. Pms are historically a store of value, thats why i'm 70% PMs, 30% Crypto.

As much as I would love to be 100% crypto for 1000x, there is no history backing it. However, I'm bound to ride the safe moon mission on silver/gold

>>19639074
yeah i figured as much. still was a bit of a shock when i saw how small the coin was and that such a small amount could be worth $1700.

>>19639645
Metals are best because it doesn’t have a 3rd party liability attached, with BTC your 3rd party liability is electricity and the internet and requires another device to access.

>>19639645
>70% PMs
how is your pm portfolio divided?
>because there are only a few asset classes not denominated in USD
so you won't try to trade all of your silver into gold if the gold:silver ratio shortens?

imagine if that trade wasn't really feasible, would you still buy silver?

>>19639769
this.
also, the dollar system as it is today will inevitably collapse.
it's a mathematical inevitability.
and when that happens, all financial assets will get decimated.
not just in the US but around the world, since all other currencies are tied to the dollar.

>>19639469
Multiple reasons.

First, silver is inexpensive right now. Makes it easy for even us poorfags to get in on a store of wealth.
Conversely, gold is much harder for a low-earning wagie to get. You'd have to save the fiat back for longer periods of time.
Gold is the goal, but silver stores wealth pretty well itself.

Second, yes, there's a bit of speculation that the gold-to-silver ratio will go back to more historic levels, and that stacked silver can be 'exchanged' for gold.

Finally, even if silver did moon and the GSR correct, you'd want to keep some silver anyway, just as diversification.


Myself, I buy silver as a hedge against a USD collapse when I get Constitutional, and as a store of value when I pick up bullion. I'd like to catch the GSR correction as well, but I also understand that I wouldn't be able to get much gold even if it did happen.

>>19639456
Fuck you

>>19618292
The Bogda have the secret of pure wealth from the Anunakis themselves, so there is that.

>>19640132
I'm European.
I'm buying both gold and silver.
However, I have no idea about capital gains taxes for pms in my country. I've searched and searched and found nothing.

The true Chad coin

>>19639769
>3rd party liability
You can run electricity on an exercise bike and transfer millions via radio waves with btc. How new r u?

We mooning boys

>>19641105
Only ones from Carson City are the true chad coin

>>19641105
Dad bought these before they took off and paid off our house.

Goddammit. I have 65 oz of silver and 0 oz of gold. Should I buy 100 oz of silver or 1 oz of gold?

>>19625851
Chards.co.uk
Bairdmint

>>19641924
Silver, then wait for ratio to drop and trade silver in for gold, but maybe not all your silver

>>19641924
Aim for 100 oz silver 1 oz gold

>>19624911
Why is that bar out of its assay case? In fact why are any of them not in capsules?

>>19642676
fag

>>19624911
That wedding ring could cost you four gold maples and half of that bar some day.

Great gains for Bitcoin, gold, silver, all sound money today boys.

>>19641105
Nonsense, true Chads only stack Canadian Fish Scales.

>>19642918
You and your scratched up coins can kiss my dick