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> Following the spirit of signature batching, an approach that goes even further is to take the entire computation off the blockchain. In order to do so securely, we use a clever economic hack: the code still goes on the blockchain, and gets recorded there, but by default the computation is decided by oracles which run the code off-chain in a private EVM and supply the answer, also providing a security deposit.

https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/09/17/scalability-part-1-building-top/

>> No.19605968

>>19605922
It honestly blows my mind that Vitalik was anticipating the value of off chain second layer computation with on chain settlement that far back in time. Absolutely visionary in the realest sense of the word. Interesting mention of RNG too.

>> No.19606003

>>19605968
Except he literally hates chainlink
Unless he’s been fudding like a chad the whole time

>> No.19606085

Would ETH 2.0 make Arbitrum obsolete?

>> No.19606093

>>19606085
Did Toilet make Street obsolete?

>> No.19606142

>>19606093
It's a serious question, assuming ETH 2.0 achieves scaling, would something like Arbitrum be invalidated or does it still have purpose as an alternative scaling solution?

>> No.19606164

>>19606003
he's a turboautist crab in a bucket, he fuds it because he hates others' success

>> No.19606182

>>19606142
arbitrum will offer privacy and reduced computatiom costs even still

>> No.19606189

>>19606003
>Unless he’s been fudding like a chad the whole time
Could this be a possibility? If he endorsed link could it drive a wild speculative bubble that would potentially derail the project? or is that a dumb thought

>> No.19606221

>>19606142
theory: arbitrum was developed in part because the chainlink team got tired of waiting for eth devs to get their thumb out of their ass and get eth2.0 up and running.
as a result whenever eth 2 does actually release any important functions it adds for connecting on-and off-chain systems will already be served by arbitrum/chainlink nodes. they took too long and chainlink already worked around them.

>> No.19606244

>>19606142
Computational batching via chainlink+arbitrum will greatly reduce gas costs. That’s the whole point of it. So even if Eth 2.0 does 1 billion transactions a second it’d absolutely still be a gamechanger.

>> No.19606259

>>19606244
>>19606221
>>19606182
Thank you for the answers.

>> No.19606416

>>19606003
he hates 4chan and the "LINK marines" on twitter.. you guys are pathetic

>> No.19607451
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19607451

>>19605922
Vitalik also predicted KLEROS

>> No.19607722

>>19606221
I'm in Eth Dev discord. Work in progress in full force

>> No.19607734

>>19606416
I asked him if I can call him money skelly. He didn't respond

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19608641

>>19607451
Kleros can actually also achieve what Vitalik mentioned in the OP. Kleros to the moon as the trye chosen trusted oracle. Fucking kek at linkies thinking this could possibly have anything to do with them

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19608660

Oooooooooooooo

>> No.19608682
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19608682

PNK 4$ EOY!
YOU DON'T KNOW THE TASTE OF THIS FELLO

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19608701

This is a Kleros thread now faggots

>> No.19608716

>>19608641
>>19608660
>>19608682
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19608998

>>19605922

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>>19608716
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>>19608998

>> No.19609278

>>19606003
I am new to shitcoins but from the way vitalik pumps loopring a couple times a week for off-chain vlk rollups, and never mentions chainlink, this sounds plausible to me. Do you have the proofs?