/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19599714
When you have billions you dont have to take any risks trying to double up, why would he gamble billions?

>>19599714
Because he isn’t real. He is a fictional character created by the Jews to get you to invest in the (((stock market))).

part of me thinks he knows something, like he knows of a definete plan for war, or he knows whos set up to be the next fed chair and their plans.

This boomer knows something and hes like best friends with Bill Gates and bill gates knew the corona hoax.

sitting in cash has got to be the dumbest thing ever
fed just printed billions and this guy is sitting on top of USD

>>19599714

He is an investor, not a gambler. No one knows what is going on right now. He doesn't give a fuck about missing out on some retard pump. He will wait until he sees good buys then make the trades. Anyone in this market is a gambler right now.

my nigga tryna flip it on a cocaine deal he finna buy 137 billy worth of yayo, 3x his money, then invest in the stocks again but wit more den anebody

also, since he might likely die anytime soon he probably wants his assets as liquid as possible on death for legacy reasons (i.e. remembered as one of top 10 richest rather than top 1000) and administration reasons.

>>19599714
Senility.

>>19599769

Exactly, just printed. Now the printer is stopping... Repeat of 2018 when fed policy bounced around the market is what I'm thinking.

>>19599714
The market is literally being kept up via fed spending. Feds cant pump forever and when they stop we are going to see a crash that is far worse than what it would of been had the fed simply let it crash and recover on its own

>>19599775
im buying stocks that are low but showed no significant corona drop in march.

i.e. stuff that flew under the radar and still has below average volume of trade.

but yeah, when you see volume 20 times the average daily volume on a stock that is nothing but speculation.

>>19599755
Except I've seen him talk in Omaha. Numerous times.

>>19599714
Waiting for a good entry point in eth

>>19599762
He literally made his money through insider info thanks to connections his congressman daddy handed him. He probably has an idea of when the fed pump will stop

>>19599775

he sold at the fuking bottom lmao... he's become irrelevant

>>19599821
Ever heard of an actor? It is all part of the hoax

>>19599863

And he'll buy lower in a few years.

Because he knows that we're about to hit the worst depression in modern history

>>19599888
checked, based and redpilled. they are always 5 steps ahead

>>19599991
But question still remains, why didn't he buy the fake corona dip in march? He could have ridden the "V-shaped" recovery, sell, then buy again during the so called "worst depression in modern history" when it hits?

He's the dude who says be fearful when market is greedy and greedy when the market is fearful. Fake coronoa or not, there was definely fear during the March dip.

>>19600223

Because it was a random fomo rally. It could have randomly failed at any point. Buffett isn't gambling. He simply sees that he has these airlines and such that are most likely going bankrupt and sells them. The fact that a bunch of retard newfag investors pump the shit out of these zombie companies doesn't make it a bad choice since they will go to $0 anyway. In a few months after the march lows are taken out again he'll be looking like a genius.

Maybe he wants to be liquid to buy up all the assets that are going to be cheap.

>>19599991
This. Media is playing up that the virus is a nothingburger, thus stocks go up. Then any second the second wave hits, prices dip, Buffet buys.

>>19599714
He bought the Coronavirus meme.

>>19599787
This company deserves it. Buffett was pumping McDonalds and Coca Cola and is one of the reasons why americans are so fat

but what if line go up forever?

>>19599798
This crisis is not even related to the 2008 crisis, is not even in the same ball park, is not even in the same planet.

2008 was swap defaults, basically a bunch of shit stocks worth a God damn shit sitting in a bunch of private coffers, there is not enough trees in the planet to inflate the dollar that thick to just bail that out.

This is a sanitary crisis that only lasted 2 fucking months, the market is already bouncing nicely, no one is goin to get evicted foot on ass for missing 2 fucking months of house payments.
This is the golden bull run and your one and perhaps only chance of becoming millionaire, every fucking stock is heavily under valued.

Close to an all out war with China the market is bulls deep baby, fire at will

>>19600600
I dare you to go all in you fucking glowing kike

>>19600600

Why are you talking about 2008? I'm saying this reminds me of 2018 when the market was dick slapped around by fed policy announcements. Lets be honest here. The only reason to buy right now is because of the fed. As soon as jpow starts to take a hawkish tone stocks will be spiked right back into the ground, just like 2018.

>>19600600
Oh yeah?

He wants to buy disney

sour grapes from selling the bottom

>>19599820
Like what?

>>19600675
Fuck sorry, I don't know happened in 2018 can you point to an article or something one thing I am sure is the fed will baby sit this fucking economy until is up and running, the markets are bull and in about a year it'll be operating at full capacity.

Again short to nuclear thermal war there is nothing to fear

This rally is pricing in the idea that we'll be back to normal in June 2021. They aren't factoring in the riots, disbanding police, the second corona wave as a result from one dead nigger and how WFH is pretty much going to be a permanent thing. Buffet is smart enough to know that markets crash twice and that Corona has no proof of being over. The Spanish flu had a milquetoast first wave too. It was the second and third waves that straight up murked civilization.

It is totally fair to be cautious right now. The only thing I'm doing is wheeling my money with easy cash covered puts on airline/cruise stocks. I'm not going to risk my money on "easy gains" that can be lost on a coin toss.

Also another thing you guys aren't factoring in: the housing market is going to take a hard shit. Anything that is super popular will be overvalued when people start to realize that they don't have to be next to work anymore. SF, NY and Portland will start to decrease in price as people begin to move to states with lower taxes and lower costs of living. This is combined with the fact that people with AirBnB mortgages have not been able to make any payments since this started. We're standing ontop of a trap.

>>19601077
And he'll buy the top and on every airline too

>>19599769
>>19601077
oh, right. back to normal. way ahead of schedule, even.

>>19599901
He's got like 6 months left to live tops

>>19601197
>They aren't factoring in the riots, disbanding police

This is how I know you're retarded, this virus is nothing like the Spanish flu and I know because I got it.

Is going you kill a bunch of fat fucks and boomers and there is nothing that can be done about that, it's going to run its course and that's it

>. This is combined with the fact that people with AirBnB mortgages have not been able to make any payments since this started

Priced in

>>19601184

Fed announced it would start to hike rates which caused the 2018 crash and stocks dropped like 30%, they reversed right when fed said it would lower rates again.

Same thing now. Fed was pumping up to a hundred billion a day into the repo market late 2019 and was trying to taper it off but the commercial paper market was collapsing. Then there was a massive liquidity crisis and stocks nose dived. The v shaped pump only started after "unlimited QE" was announced. And yeah, the only reason to buy is pretty much "fed printing money," in fact people are fearful of not holding stocks because they are scared of inflation from so much printing.

Now the fed is looking at stocks at all time highs, maybe they feel like dick slapping them back down. Or maybe jpow is trump's bitch now and they'll pamp et until novemeber. Hard to know unless you're on the board of the federal reserve or work at the treasury.

>>19601310
You had swine flu?

Also
>Priced in
Is not an answer. You aren't smarter than the dude who reads 300 pages of the most boring material a day just to find a single gold nugget.

>>19601233
kek permabears have been calling for stonks to crash for decades now

>>19601335
There's so much schizo, misunderstanding and just made up shit in this post, it's not even worth doing more than laughing at it.
I could post "In 1906 a train scared a bear from eating some honey in a bee's nest, which caused the bees to live and sting a farmer, which caused the 1906 earthquake in San Francisco." And my comment would be more accurate.

>>19599714
Even the smartest guys don't get it right every time. Far from. He made a big bet and it didn't pay off (at least not so far).
That being said, he's getting old and he's probably not as sharp as he used to be. And it's not like his methods are unique anymore.
Chess grandmasters from 150 years ago would get crushed by most of today's grandmasters. That doesn't mean grandmasters 150 years ago weren't very talented/ smart, they just had less information/ tools to work with. The same probably applies to guys like Warren Buffet. Even retail investors understand risk, discounted cash flows, balance sheets, intrinsic value etc.

>>19599714
He is old and he wanted to leave part of his wealth to the young poor investors of Robinhood.

And he succeeded.

>>19599714

P. E. ratios across the whole market are equivalent to technology during the dotcom bubble, and the stampede of Robinhood retail traders into Hertz has driven the price up 800%, even though the company is completely bankrupt and worthless. This is not normal or sustainable behaviour.

Yields are spiking. On Friday they went from 0.70 to 0.90. As we saw in late 2018, when yields go to only 2 or 3%, stocks crash. Indeed, the economy is so weak that even 1% yields appear to crash stocks now, as we saw in March. Trillions in money-printing have not been enough to suppress yields. The market is going to crash soon unless the Fed imposes a cap on them. This means hyperinflation. Buffet is probably waiting for a cap on yields to be announced before he makes his next move. It is widely speculated that he is hoarding silver.

>>19601488
>P. E. ratios across the whole market are equivalent to technology during the dotcom bubble,
No.

>>19599755
riveting analysis, anon

>>19599714
HE'S SEETHING LIKE HELL

>>19600341
The fuck are you talking about, retard? The media basically tells us the virus is super aids.

>>19601555

>>19601488
You're not enitrely wrong, but P/E's will come down when (and if) earnings normalize in 2021. Also, as many economists predicted, the equity risk premiums are probably coming down and the historic average isn't sustainable. Lower risk free rates and lower equity risk premiums (in part because of the liquidity squeeze) lead to higher stock prices/ higher P/E ratios.

Simply comparing P/E ratios over time is an over-simplification. Interest rates, equity risk premiums, and expected earnings growth aren't constants. And, as a result, neither is the "correct" P/E ratio for the market.

>>19599755
I KNEW IT!

>>19601347
I believe actually i had both, I was homeless in 2009 when the swine flu was raging through town, I was smoking weed and fucking whores with every 2 bit fuck on that city, I went to sleep with a horrible fever 3 days in a row around that time so who knows.

I am driving uber at the moment and when I catch it 3 months ago, I got a better feeling of the market this fucking fuding boomer will ever have, I don't need to read God damn shit to know what's pumping and what's not.

Priced in its the best answer I can give you, Airbnb is a small business so they'll get government relief so that PPP shit, you don't even know what's going and and you keep pointing fingers

Buy Hertz before it reaches 14 bucks next week this is last call, it's pumping furiously I hope I can get my longs in the morning before it gets too crazy

>>19601488
>1488
>This is not normal or sustainable behaviour.
But Hitler, Robinhood normies are blowing fractions of paychecks on FOMO longshots they expect to fail. Some of them are going to leverage themselves up the ass and create more debt but to most of them, RH is just a more complicated scratch-off card. Its completely sustainable and we should expect a larger retail presence in the market from this point forward.

>>19599999

>>19600600
fucking retarded. Cant wait to see you turn into a pink wojack

>>19599714
How did he know to exit all long positions before Corona happened?

>>19601575
says the guy writing in caps lock

Whats even the point at this age sitting on so much money? Does he still enjoy making millions?

>>19599750
Because hed still have billions if he loses half...

>>19601609

>You're not enitrely wrong, but P/E's will come down when (and if) earnings normalize in 2021.

This is the problem. The market is priced for perfection, but, according to John Williams of Shadowstats, the real unemployment rate in the U. S. is 40%. You simply can't recover from that sort of thing within a year. That takes generations to crawl back from, along with sound fiscal policy. In real terms, we have already been in a depression since 2008. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=macsrQQeVO8.).) Now things are even worse. Stocks crash if rates go to only 2 or 3%. The riots only compound the issue. As the money-printing makes asset-bubbles grow larger, the gap between the top 1% and the rest of society grows to greater and greater heights, and people become increasingly more desperate. The government will soon be forced to placate people with regular helicopter money, and this will cause inflation in consumer prices. The whole house of cards is ready to collapse.

>>19601488
>traders into Hertz has driven the price up 800%, even though the company is completely bankrupt and worthless

Learn what chapter 11 and chapter 7 is, Hertz is already in post bankruptcy levels of stocks, Hertz isn't a phasing out company, they have enough I inventory to survive this and every apocalyptic meme virus thrown their way.
Company bankrupt and totally worthless your thinking of block buster or radio shack who never learned how to re structure.

There is tons of fucking money to make on hertz being so under value, they're easily a 20 dollar stock and they'll eventually go back there, Hertz is the start of this show faggit

>>19601590
That was when the virus was the mainstream meteor two-four weeks ago, now the media has moved on to riots and everything in the stock market is all smooth sailing on optimism. They'll change at the drop of a hat once cases start coming out.

>>19600446
This

>>19601696
Because insider trading is only illegal if your networth has 8 figures or less.

>>19601672
I hope you're here when I post my gains on hertz next week

>>19601765
bitch my entire family had coronavirus. It is nothing, a mild respiratory thing.

>>19601627

I think the Robinhood trading is a sign of desperation. People want to improve their appalling standard of living at any cost. What goes up fast, comes down faster. As soon as stocks look even slightly shaky, the stampede for the exits will be a bloodbath, as a myriad of weak hands is shaken out and avalanche of stop-losses is triggered.

>>19600600
My nigger

>>19601744

The retail investors just lost everything on Chesapeake. This situation is no different.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chesapeake-prepares-file-bankruptcy-after-stock-surges-300-one-day

"Heck, even one of the world's top investors sold his near-40% stake in Hertz as it filed for bankruptcy protection. Essentially, Carl Icahn saw the handwriting on the wall and understood Hertz shares were likely to end up worthless. Icahn also understands the future could be different without COVID-19 travel restrictions, and he left open the possibility of becoming an investor again, likely with a restructured company and newly issued stock. Unfortunately, traders and unsuspecting investors seem to be buying into current Hertz shares hoping for an unusual outcome, or because they are simply OK playing a very dangerous game that is closer to gambling than to investing. For now, with the stock up 40% Monday, the Hertz madness continues."

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/06/08/hertz-stock-up-40-why-the-madness-continues.aspx

>>19601800
>I’m soooooo fucking smart and cool, the post
t. 5’8” manlet worth -20k

>>19601709
He's been giving away the bulk of his personal wealth for a while now, to charity. He won. He's old. He's got nothing left to prove, he just has to keep BH customers happy, and for whatever reasons he has, cash is his position. The flapping heads in the media are saying it's because he's old, but they could also be hoarding cash for a big aquisition. Nobody knows, but he's been in cash for a while, long before this covid shit started.

Rememeber, "Smug on green, despair on red" is true for wall street commentary, just like it is here for internet coins. When the Bitcoin graph is green, everyone here is an expert. When it's red, they're all threatening to cut their wrists.

Right now they're all "Pffft, he's sitting on cash, what an idiot" - but if there's a pullback or a second wave or any other kind of disturbance in the markets, they'll be saying "Why didn't we see it, we should have stayed in cash, too!"

>>19601796
That's not the fucking point dumbass, the point is that the media has currently abandoned the coronavirus narrative because people currently care more about dead black kids and rioting. The point isn't that you'll survive corona chan, point is that the media isn't pushing the story, but that we're expecting a second wave which news outlets will then pump up and scare everyone. Learn how the media works and don't call me a bitch when I'm trying to explain things.

>>19601450
>tied to his age

without a doubt. I could see that right away his decisions were reflecting his age. Arrogance and age.

>>19601826
Bullish.

Hertz will recover, worst case scenario is a slow and painful death like most of this giants when they go super nova, they leak money slowly to death for years waiting for that magical CEO to find the solution.

That's like the worst case scenario, all of this boomers are shaking in fear that's why their holding to their coffers like the faggots they're are, I can imagine Warren Buffett sitting in his living room hugging a bundle of cash while waiting for Corona chan to snuff him out

All those billions goin to black lives matter organizations as the ultimate cuckery before the old geezer draw his last breath giving up the ghost as he stares to his cash for the last time

>>19601878
Bitch, nobody is buying any second wave bullshit except some dumb old busybodies.

>>19601859

You're the person at the top of the bubble chart shouting "New paradigm."

>>19601800
I think you've hit the nail on the head here anon. I've just started trading in the last couple of months, but have been desperately trying to make any more money I can. My 13 year old car is going to shit slowly. My paychecks are decent now, but I'm slowly trying to pay off credit card debt I accumulated when I was a waggie for 25k a year. In addition, the GF (would be my fiance if I could afford a ring) would like to start having kids soon...and she's a little late on her period which is freaking me the fuck out. So here I am with the mad lads of /biz/. I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing, but I just invested $500 last week and I'm already up $100 I didn't have before. I need this and yet I'm terrified the market is on the cusp of shitting the bed. It's all so tiresome.

>>19600600

>>19601984
Bars we're full last night, girls are sucking mean head for free

Bullish

The American economy has proven itself basically invincible. The S&P, RIGHT NOW, is probably at about ten percent of its true value.

You guys dont seem to understand. The Treasury has basically admitted that because of American military hegemony they can essentially print money, there is still demand for $4T in US dollars around the world. The global reserve currency is stronger than anyone thought.

The only reason the S&P isn't at $1000 is because people still dont believe it. It seems too good to be true.

>>19602017
Put all on Hertz long, if you're not comfortable holding through the weekend, close your position on Friday afternoon.

Easiest 2 thousand bucks you'll make

>>19599848
This. Buffett was also a suspect in the Hampstead cover up.

>>19602059
I need to learn forex, I heard that there was that 4t demand for usd and I was salivating with the prospect, the Mexican peso was literally bending backwards as the dollar was pumping harder than a teens cock

>>19602059
Postslike this convince me it's a massive bubble

>>19601973

>clueless little brother gloating about his big 20% gain today
>random anime idiot on facebook making a public post on how to get into stocks
>super normie golf partner talking about the meme stock he picked on robinhood today that gave him a double

I don't get it. This is the clowniest market in human history. I'm on the sidelines, I refuse to touch it, Jesus what is going on.

>>19602132
How?
Every company is literally below 50% of their actual value at least, how is pumping close to a reasonable value a bubble.
Most of this companies hold more in inventory than what their market cap is at right now

>>19602165
Dude, look at rhis
https://boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/58551888its just like 2017/early2018 crypto

He is just being overprotective of his capital. And i dont think he gives a shit about rising his capital that much, because 137 Billion is way more than he could spend in his lifetime.
At this point in the game, the best way to win is just dont lose.

>>19599714
Because he knows that the FED's magic money machine is propping up a recession on nothing but fairytales. Wait for unemployment to stay low, then wait for the mortgage payments to start failing, and all the while businesses closing. This will culminate with the second wave meme, leading to an absolute blood bath.
Oh but don't worry, we will surely dip before that. Depressions don't happen in one big drop.

>>19599755

LOL

>>19602132
it's eerie seeing these posts, it's like 2017 deja vu. spoopy

>>19602206

Yeah I remember. I don't know what to expect now though, I do believe supernatural market force are affecting stocks. Does it dump? Does it stagnate? Does it rise even more? Who tf knows. I already lost a good bit on my puts from a month ago and don't want to double lose by buying the top.

It's really tough seeing idiots make some solid cash buying any meme they hear about and getting a quick 50%.

>>19602233
unemployment to stay high*

>>19602165
>>clueless little brother gloating about his big 20% gain today

Bring him over so we can teach em a thing or two

>>random anime idiot on facebook making a public post on how to get into stocks

Just because you can buy stocks doesn't mean you know what you're doing

>>super normie golf partner talking about the meme stock he picked on robinhood today that gave him a double

Congratulations, hope he keeps educating himself otherwise he'll end up like the 80% of normies who think they can just day trade their way out of poverty

>>19602075
Seriously? But Hertz is in bankruptcy. Just playing the wave up? I don't get the meme behind buying it. Not trying to be an ass, in fact I appreciate the tip, but just curious.

>>19601924
>without a doubt. I could see that right away his decisions were reflecting his age. Arrogance and age.
Well, that's what you're parroting from the financial media today, anyway.

>>19601984
I'll see you later when I'm using my sterile fleshlights to jack myself off from the sunroof of my gilded-golden ivory tower because you didn't buy on the second wave dip, fuckin peasant.

And don't call me a bitch when I'm explaining things.

>>19599714
He fell for the physical economy meme

The only thing that matters now is the tech industry

>>19599714
How do we know it's true? Why would he share this precious info?

>>19601626
>takings advices from a literal hobo

Get fucked

>>19602346
They filed chapter 11, is a protection law to pause operations and re structure the company, they talk to the Jews and get a loan and a plan to get the company back to good standings.

Chapter 7 is liquidation, that's when they basically get an auctioneer to sell the office chairs to pay creditors first, private investors then and later maybe send you a pin to remind you, you used to have a stake in this company
Jcpenney might be there pretty soon they're slowly unloading bags until they're liquidated for good

>>19602389
just like in 2000? lmao

>>19599714
Why wouldn't he?
The whole thing will plummet eventually once the overreaction to the overreaction to the overreaction happens.
Then he's in a great position to buy lots of cheap shit with high value.

>>19602332

My main point was that a trifecta of shoeshine boys showed up in my face talking about robinhood today. It's peak top talk

>>19602412
I been called worst

>>19602346
>But Hertz is in bankruptcy.
So? Do you even know what that means? Their BK, per their filing, is debt protection and restructuring. They're not selling off their assets, and the stock will bounce around until the company has it's debt under control, and the rental car market returns (which is will, now that everything is opening up again)

Today? It's profit taking by day traders. The future? They're going to keep the company open and functioning. Take a position, or don't.

>>19602433
JCPenny is gone. Kind of sucks, I got some damn good deals on furniture at the local furniture showroom near me. But China fucked them just as hard as anyone, and they can't compete.

>>19602449
Yes except now the FAANG companies are EVERYWHERE and used by literally everyone not some meme shit like pets.com, adjusted for inflation the NASDAQ only just passed the 2000 high at the end of 2017 we are only 3 years into this bull market, the NASDAQ is breaking all time highs and the physical meme economy stocks in the dow jones and spy are lagging reflecting this new reality, the FAGMAN(FAANG) companies are more powerful now than most nation states, the charts simply speak for themselves

>>19600600
Plenty of people are going to get evicted, actually, as they can't afford their rents/house payments when they don't have a job, the payments don't disappear merely get delayed (expect a nice fat bill in a month or two if this is you) and the banks will do the same thing they did before: foreclose on everyone they can and flip the houses for massive profits.

Holy shit I spent my life's savings on Tesla stock at 880 feeling like an idiot and now it's up to between 945-950! WTF?!

>>19602348
I've looked at computer projections. The second wave is beyond likely. I am so fucking tempted to start shorting the week before schools come back in.
I have made like 3,000 already. I could sell mid august and buy shorts with margin for the next 2 months until the market drops out.
I honestly might do this, I am beyond confident that covid will return this fall, that is the actual observed biological nature of the virus and it just happened to fucking China.

>>19599714
Most of his assets are in stocks

>>19602433
>>19602472
Thank you anons. My knowledge in the field of finance is...limited. I'm more of a work outdoors inawoods kinda anon. This shit is all just a daze, but I'm willing to learn and I'm usually quick on the uptake. Cheers. I'll buy you a beer someday.

>>19602501
With P/E ratios of 5,000, right.
I *really* don't trust this fucking market dude, I don't. I called the crash and had shorts started in January of this year that went from 13 and sold at 40.00...
I think I am right and I think I am about to make a shit ton of fucking money.

>>19602527
Fuckin drooling retard

>>19602566
Yep, I am all fucking in on 3x indexes while the heat keeps the virus down, then I am jumping ships onto the 3x shorts. See you fuckers in hell.

>>19602566
The market doesn't have to make any sense PE ratios and shit are a meme now, this is capital flight from the collapsing EU and third world shitholes, and the zero interest rate bond market(100 year loans from Argentina who is going to buy that dogshit LOL)over 100 countries have applied for IMF assistance. This is a stampede of capital into America a repeat of the roaring 1920's when European governments defaulted en mass due to WW1 debts. It's possible there is a retest of the low in the dow and spy but the low for the NASDAQ is in

>>19600446
This. And he's best friends with Bill Gates, so that means Bill believes in covid, rather than perpetuating a hoax.
I'd be pretty worried if I had gone all in on the theory that covid is a hoax and bill gates is the anti-christ.

>>19602568
In this market being a coward is a bigger hindrance than a sub-60 IQ.

>>19602017

Get some exposure to gold. Hedge yourself against a possible stock-market collapse. GDX or GDXJ index-funds, or one of the big companies like Newmont, Franco-Nevada, Barrick, etc. The stock-market frenzy is only temporary; there will be a crash, whether in nominal or in real terms.

>>19599848
>when the fed pump will stop
More likely he's secretly transfering his wealth into IRL assets, knowing that the currency will inflate and stock market implode.

>>19602626
I'm up a lot of fucking money and I am beyond sure the virus will return this fall with economic factors that are still on-hold, 2019 was the late stage bull market. You fuckers are about to get the rug pulled, I am telling you.
This.. this is not fucking good. I am telling you this is not good. Buffet is not in for a fucking reason. I do not trust this shit at all.

>>19602265
Lots of retards also made mad gains in 2017 in crypto

>>19602651
He's been publically giving his wealth to charity, for years now. Try to keep up, and stop huffing /pol.

>>19602626
>>19602501
>>19602472
>>19602059

"New paradigm."

I implore anybody who doesn't have exposure to precious metals to buy gold or gold miners before it's too late.

>>19602514
Priced in.
I'll buy one of them farms for pennies on the fucking dollar from some boomer that I will put a swift kick in the ass as I lock the doors behind.

Like anon said, take a position.

none of this affect the market, homelessness, riots you name it, the stock market is the place to buy and sell public companies, their price is based on their utility.
And even tho I doubt most people will get kicked off their houses, even then all I got do is put a long on jp Morgan and watch my bags flow.

Priced in, priced in and priced in.
The only thing that can fuck the market, again is the prospect of uncertainty, war, famine, diseas and the other horseman what was it?

Oh yeah death, right now things are sailing, dump bags as soon as CNN runs out of nigger riots and start bitching about second waves, the rumors alone will be enough to dip shit again

>>19602165
>random anime idiot
You take that back, mister!

>>19602668
Oh wow. A rich elite donates to charity, guess I'm wrong....

The fact someone as gullible as you has made it this far deep into a 4Chan board is astonishing.

>>19602075
Ever had Hertz Donut?

>>19601310
>I know because I got it.
Is this how you invest, too?
Statistics just means nothing to you?

>>19601184

I document it in my picture here >>19601488

In late 2018, yields rose to 3%, and stocks crashed from 26,500 to 22,500. The Fed found that it simply could not let rates go up, and began doing Q. E. again. This period is also when gold began its rise from $1200 to $1500. Further Q. E. has driven it to $1700. When a rate-cap is imposed, it will go to $2000 and then to infinity.

Ray Dalio and Bridgewater predicted all this to the Financial Times in Jan. 2020 (long before the coronavirus panic):

https://www.ft.com/content/1c90b8d6-36f6-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4

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https://www.ft.com/content/1c90b8d6-36f6-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4

Greg Jensen, co-chief investment officer of Bridgewater Associates, the world’s biggest hedge fund, says gold could surge to a record high above $2,000 an ounce as central banks embrace higher inflation and political uncertainties increase."

"Mr Jensen said he would not rule out the possibility that the Fed could slash rates to zero this year as it looks to avoid recession and disinflationary pressures."

"Although rate cuts by the Fed have bolstered equity markets, Mr Jensen said the group was “more cautious” on US stocks, describing them as “frothy”."

Bridgewater accurately placed a $1.5 billion options bet that the stock market would plunge by March 2020:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bridgewater-bets-big-on-market-drop-11574418601

>>19602653
>inb4 that one guy who thinks you're a shill being paid to crash the market bc 4chan makes all the real decisions say something to you

I'm in agreeance. Biotech stocks involved in developing/manufacturing Corona tests are lagging as a whole right now because the money is being cycled through meme stocks like oil and Disney and Tech. If the next dip down is directly caused by COVID those health stocks will moon so hard they'll beat Elon Musk to Mars, and that's what I'm counting on

>>19601724
You seem not to understand that it's not just his money on the line, right?

>>19601184

I document it in my picture here >>19601488

In late 2018, yields rose to 3%, and stocks crashed from 26,500 to 22,500. The Fed found that it simply could not let rates go up, and began doing Q. E. again. This period is also when gold began its rise from $1200 to $1500. Further Q. E. has driven it to $1700. When a rate-cap is imposed, it will go to $2000 and then to infinity.

Ray Dalio and Bridgewater predicted all this to the Financial Times in Jan. 2020 (long before the coronavirus panic):

https://www.ft.com/content/1c90b8d6-36f6-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4

"Greg Jensen, co-chief investment officer of Bridgewater Associates, the world’s biggest hedge fund, says gold could surge to a record high above $2,000 an ounce as central banks embrace higher inflation and political uncertainties increase."

"Mr Jensen said he would not rule out the possibility that the Fed could slash rates to zero this year as it looks to avoid recession and disinflationary pressures."

"Although rate cuts by the Fed have bolstered equity markets, Mr Jensen said the group was “more cautious” on US stocks, describing them as “frothy”."

Bridgewater accurately placed a $1.5 billion options bet that the stock market would plunge by March 2020:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bridgewater-bets-big-on-market-drop-11574418601

>>19602676
I'm more worried about the trade war taking off again. Trump stopped attacking China, for now, but you know he's gonna start again.
And, the whole oil thing could blow up again.
But that's normal. There's always something that can tank the market, at any time, in the last, oh, since the fucking place was started.

FUD is nothing new, and there has never been a time when there was no FUD. I don't depend on stocks for a living, but I would like my dumb 401k to be worth something by the time I retire, so I can have SOME fun before I blow the top of my head off with a shotgun, because no way I'm ending up gibbering in a wheelchair in adult depends in some nursing home.

>>19601627
So what you're saying is, we're seeing a new paradigm emerge? Interesting.

>>19602705
LOL. Really? That's all you got? Go back to /pol, manlet.

>>19602728
See this is what has me fucking worried. We were supposed to be pulling this fucking BACK IN from the fucking companies and mortgages to trim the fat on the subprime borrowings/shitty companies.
Now we are starting to see a SERIOUS fucking bubble forming. I mean I wrote a paper in 2019 for my English 2 final at university as to why we should expect a market crash.
This was not fucking it and I am beyond fucking worried about what will happen to the markets when this virus comes back with this much liquidity on the table.
I still expect some companies like postmates to go bankrupt, they are walking fucking corpses at this point. I am fucking worried about this market, bros..
I really really don't trust it.

>>19599714
wait until september, the market crash wasn't even the reaction from coronavirus

>>19602759
Oh fuck no, the FED can't keep unlimited QE and zero percent interest rates up forever, but they're safe for the time being because as bad as the US market's long term prospects are, the rest of the world manages to be twice as bad.
I do think we should expect a more or less permanent shift in the amount of retail investors though, with a younger skew.

>>19602741
You don't get rich worrying about other people's money. He does what he does to get rich and if other people have what he needs that's their good luck.

>>19602705
I can literally hear the autistic, nasal-sounding, back-of-the-throat voice from the lard neckbeard reading this. Fuck off.

>>19602706
Nah, they good?

>>19602059
>The S&P, RIGHT NOW, is probably at about ten percent of its true value.
a wild peak delusion appeared

time to short everything

>>19602759
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-yieldcurve-explainer/countdown-to-recession-what-an-inverted-yield-curve-means-idUSKBN1ZR2EX

The yield curve inverted last year and the systemic problem has still not been fucking addressed. The crash was because of corona, but we are still doing the same shit that lead to 2008 and the Federal reserve needs to keep raising interest rates.

WE RAISED INTEREST RATES FOR OVER TWO YEARS TO CUT THEM BACK TO FUCKING ZERO AND THEN PRINT 3 TRILLION DOLLARS TO "SAVE THE ECONOMY" THEN WE ARE GOING TO SAY NOTHING IS SUSPECT?

>>19602764
>>19602840
Lol. You eternal bull faggots get really mad when people point out the absurdity of the market don't you? Even your patron saint Buffet knows better than to trust it.

I can't wait to see the sea of red wojacks from your arrogance.

>>19602788

I expect a crash in real terms rather than nominal terms. A nominal crash is possible, but I think they'll print fifty trillion before they let this market fall. The masses will be placated with their 500% gains just like the citizens of Venezuela or Zimbabwe--only, they won't mean a thing. That's why I think people should just get into gold now before YCC is formally announced.

>>19602940
>muh inflation
explain then how the USD has been gaining on literally every other major foreign currency

>>19599714
Kek what a boomer bitch good riddance le stock market man

>>19601197
You can tell he’s a burger because he’s retarded

>>19601605
I gave you a counterexample smoothbrain and yo give me meme indices and averages.

>>19602940
I don't buy it. They pulled the economy back up, but it has to come down in a longer span of time. This is not the actual crash, this is market issues from Corona. Winter of this year the Fed won't be able to save the markets, I am telling you.
2008 had problems because of too many poor loans being given out, how much shitty capital do you think the 3 trillion dollar loans to the banks is? Probably a lot worse than the 800 billion from your boy Barack that you love so much.

>>19602932
>eternal bull faggots
I don't know how you interpreted my post as being remotely related to the direction of the market. You failed to read the post you linked and you failed to read any of my other posts where I say multiple times that this current uptrend is going to be put down by a second wave. You wouldn't have linked my post if you had.
>tldr LEARN TO READ STUPID

>>19602978

Yields are almost nothing for bonds issued by virtually every country with a high credit-rating. Every country is printing its currency into oblivion at the same time. 300 billion in Q. E. by the BoE, 1.5 trillion by the ECB, etc. This is no different from the 70s and 80s, when gold was rising against every currency in the world at the same time.

Goldman is now betting against the U. S. dollar.

Examples of inflation: House prices are 8x earnings; P. E. ratios on the stock market are comparable to the technology sector during the dotcom bubble; lumber and beef are spiking in price.

Expect severe inflation to come when re-opening the economy increases the velocity of money, and more helicopter money is dropped onto the people en masse in order to prevent a revolution.

>>19602840
>You don't get rich worrying about other people's money
That's not how hedge funds work.

>>19603036
>ya boi Barack
Don't bother. People who made all their gains on the 2008 crash under Obama will never see the light unless they do us a favor and retire.

>>19603071
Yeah, and now the Fed is going to print that away too, and you think Buffet isn't aware of this? Putting his billions into a already inflated bubble? Or are you of the delusional type who think the Fed really will stop printing and raise interest rates?

NEVER, GOING, TO, HAPPEN.

>>19603036

It's definitely possible that there will be a market-crash soon. Whether it will be nominal or real is the question. If the nominal crash doesn't come now, it will happen eventually, after the currency goes into hyperinflation and people are carrying dollars around in wheelbarrows.

>>19601605
What matters is debt to GDP ratio for market crash. We are not there yet, the government can take on much much much more debt.
However, the debt limit is set for July 31st this year. I shall begin shorting then.
https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2020/06/how-much-is-the-national-debt-what-are-the-different-measures-used

>>19603133
You can't be serious, this isn't the "new paradigm", I don't buy it at all. I don't trust this market. I don't I am holding until July and I am by SQQ on margin and holding until fucking Christmas morning.

>>19603114
>called me an eternal bull faggot
>you were wrong.

words can't describe how funny this is. you obviously still didn't read my post past the first sentence. I made it easy for you this time and put everything you need to know at the top of this reply.

>>19600600
Lol this is kinda of retarded teenager saying Buffet is stupid boomer holy shit the irony. You kid know nothing about the bubble that started from 2008 crisis and the danger of how many companies cannot sustain their debt payments 2020. You probably don’t even know why the fuck market pumped 10 years come from. You think retail kids like you pumped market but your 20k mom dad money doesn’t mean shit compared to company share buy backs. The fucking cringe “smart” /biz/ teenager bashing Buffet is top 4chan retardation

>>19603165

I don't trust it either, hence why I'm in gold. Gold will beat the market whether it crashes nominally or really from inflation.

>>19603189
>Anime posting faggot on a finance and business board feels the need to white knight for a transsexual shill and gets assblasted
That's the only joke that's funny here.

>>19599750
if the random retard on /biz/ can make money from the corona economy, calling it a gamble for Buffett is ridiculous

>>19603114
Oh no this isn't the modern market theory coming through is it? Oh boy, somebody is in for a wake-up call when it comes everyone realizes the extra 3 trillion dollars in loans given to the banks wasn't exactly handled with great intentions. You're about to get fucking railed bruh lmao
>>19603189
Based

>>19603204
>You kid know nothing about the bubble that started from 2008 crisis

I literally explained in on a post

Default, housing , swaps.

>>19603214
That is a safe idea. I got a $11,000 account dude, I am going to go 2x onto the SQQ at 7.00 and watch it hit $50. I am beyond confident in what I am saying.

>>19601197
All of that stuff is bullish

>>19602932
>More /pol level schizo raving

We get it, you don't have a point. FFS.

>>19603305
Okay, right and you know why that happened, right? Because the FED printed too many loans. Did you not notice them raising the interest rates back up, but slowly for around 3 years? Yeah, the slow bleed can't happen this time. We just raised the national debt by 20% this year already and the debt ceiling is in this July.
Fundamentally and technically you are very dumb to think you are safe in this market.

>>19599810
>The market is literally being kept up via fed spending. Feds cant pump forever and when they stop we are going to see a crash that is far worse than what it would of been had the fed simply let it crash and recover on its own
Crash when?
-200%?

>>19599755
He plays a character. Gets boomers to play casino

>>19603243
>illiterate cringelord get's assblasted by based anime poster
>he still doesn't understand that he agrees with exactly what the cringelord posted
>he wishes he was cool enough to post anime reactions on a site that was made to post anime
and is owned by a Japanese man

You wish I was white-knighting for someone else so your smutty fanfic about /biz/ posters was a reality. looks like somebody's back is up against the wall, and it isn't the Fed's. (insert fire emojis, laugh reacts, and black fists here)

Oh wait, i'm not reddit trash like you, my arguments don't fall flat when I don't have clapping hands to roast strangers online.
>next you'll say my post was long because I'm getting btfo

>>19600223
>But question still remains, why didn't he buy the fake corona dip in march?
he didn't know retard
He was unpreppared

>>19603393
1. Read this

>>19600223
Buffet asset's allocation in 2019 at least it was all in big banks.. not precious metal faggots..... so he thinks that bank sector won't have a crysis

the age of buffet is over.

>>19600277
>In a few months after the march lows are taken out again
in a few months
lol
aahahahahahahah
immagine believing this
another 10 years bull faggot
Prove me wrong

>>19603413
Yes, it's long because you're emotional. The Feds going to print the USD into oblivion, and Buffet for one reason or another, isn't touching any of this shit.

The best part of this is you faggots bring up a completely unrelated board because why? I have a negative opinion over a multi-billionare and am critical of the current outlook?

There's a narrative going on alright, but it's inside your mentally ill head.

>>19599714
>May 2nd
Oof

>>19603490
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/25/economy/corporate-debt/index.html

>Corporate debt just doesn't exist now.

https://theconversation.com/corporate-debt-is-in-serious-trouble-heres-what-it-means-if-the-market-collapses-135371


>That 2008 feeling
>A second measure of corporate debt is the market price of credit default swaps (CDSs), which are tradeable contracts that investors use to insure against companies defaulting on their debts. Both for investment grade and “junk” debt, the price of these swaps is back at the levels of the financial crisis of 2007-09. It is striking how quickly this has happened.

>>19601103
AT&T, maybe ford

>>19599714
Uhh so are we priced in till Christmas? Or do I need to liquidate my stocks come July and buy gold ASAP? I want my dividends but I'm not trying to be a bag holder.

>>19603377
Don't worry he doesn't listen. He's ironically just baiting at this point even though he's not trying. He'll never get why he's wasting his time here.

>>19603490
There is no argument at all in this.
>The Feds going to print the USD into oblivion
>Buffet for one reason or another, isn't touching any of this shit
I agree with both of these but you're butthurt and won't read my past posts because I called you names and don't get that I agree with that
> you faggots bring up a completely unrelated board
wtf are you talking about at this point? You being from /pol/ doesn't matter with the stuff you just said in>>19603114. I made fun of you for saying stupid stuff like >>19602705 but from my perspective I'm talking about two very different subjects.

If you feel insecure about your identity as a /pol/lack there's people you can talk to. Here's a link: >>>/adv/
Get some help anon. Don't suffer in silence.

>There's a narrative going on alright
idk what you're talking about brah

>>19603642
You tell me, corporate debt has never seen these levels. I have been calling for a crash since November, dude. There are fundamentals here forcasting a downturn that could come ALONG SIDE the corona virus peak this winter.
That debt to GDP ratio is pretty insane.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2020/04/28/the-approaching-covid-19-debt-crisis-how-excessive-debt-reduces-economic-growth/#322cefc06e94

>>19603642
Wrong pick, pic related is what is about to happen. Buy SQQQ on margin, this is probably one of the highest IQ plays the board has ever seen.

>>19603089
The problem with this is the jews just make up a bunch of paper gold effectively making it pointless to own gold

>>19603794
If everything goes perfectly we should be fine. Just as long as we don't have any market shocks for the next 15 years we will coast right through this.

>>19603832

Manipulation on the paper markets is about to end imminently. Don't get caught out when it does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbWauOCFXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AqybjlUlQc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH4ZaDweyOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwjU80LrN9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n665orfBOqM

damn it I think the /pol/ guy's gone this time
now i have to focus on reality and be sad

hold me, /biz/. hold me and tell me it'll be ok.
>paint me like one of your french girls

>>19603406
ding ding ding

>>19603922
so buy silver?

>ding ding ding

>>19600341
>This. Media is playing up that the virus is a nothingburger, thus stocks go up. Then any second the second wave hits, prices dip, Buffet buys.
And how does buffet knows about this?
Why second wave?
What if no second wave?

>>19601590
>The media basically tells us the virus is super aids.
this
I always keep on earing on the radio : ''mus social distance''
''muh danger''

>>19601184
>Again short to nuclear thermal war there is nothing to fear
money printintg?
no danger?
Inflation doesn't kik in?

>>19599714
At this point, I'm convinced the stock market is all fake. Wall Street could be on fire and zombies could be rising up from their graves, and the market would still be green.

niggers rioting, rona 2.0.....

>>19603998

Silver has potential for much greater gains than gold, so I hold half my PM holdings in silver; but I keep half in gold just in case in the argument that silver is only an industrial metal now does actually hold water. Gold is guaranteed to rise, because central banks hold it as money.

Buffet wholely owns a major insurance company

>>19604221
gotcha, just making sure I understood what the list of videos was supposed to imply. thx anon.

>>19601197
>WFH is pretty much going to be a permanent thing
lmao all the other jobs?

>>19603377
>>19602764
>>19602747
>>19602668
>>19602490
>>19602472
>>19602347
>>19601875
>>19601388

this schizophrenic autistic freak posted 9 times in this thread, defending a literal billionaire

absolute fucking freak. You win the "Schizoposter of the Day" award, my friend. Enjoy

>>19601335
>Then there was a massive liquidity crisis
why there was that?
retarded here

bears really out here still coping and posting delusional theories

>>19602206
This is nothing like crypto.

>>19601488
>It is widely speculated that he is hoarding silver
big investors gotta declare their holding

>>19602165
two weeks ago my friends wife who knows fuck all about anything said " i heard its the best time to buy stocks right now!"

doing way better than me i guess.

>>19601626
Got it. Time to sell.

>>19601627
>it's a new normal

Got it. Time to sell.

>>19602676
conquest, war, famine, plague

>>19602165
i know exactly what you mean. i admit i am a complete retard. i have a wageslave job and saved up over 100,000 USD in a bank account thinking i would need it for more schooling that i never got into. never took advantage of the gains thru trumps presidency.

then i got this miracle, the market crashed, i was going to pump 100,000 USD into some portfolio account or something, but said no no this is way too risky with coronavirus, ill come back in 3-4 months when things calm down. and now i fucking missed everything again and nothing seems to make any sense. all these people who seem to have no idea what theyre doing going onto some phone investment app while on the toilet and making tons of money. it isnt fair. im such a retard.

>>19604689
Just like big investors can't talk to their buddies in congress or the FED to get an edge?

Face it, if your suit is expensive enough, laws stop applying.

>>19602532
do it and tell me what you buy

I'm up 40% in a month, is this sustainable?

>>19601859
Wow. Convincing...

>>19600670
this dude has been a fuckin riot. love his energy

>>19599775
>buy 3x s&p 500 fund
>set stop loss

You either profit a lot or a little.

>>19601335
how much money was that again? say it for that back

>>19602017
>can't afford ring

Dude. C'mon. Sterling silver ring is $40. Don't fall for the "3 months wages" kike meme.

>>19602389
New paradigm? LoL

>>19599777
dam never thoght bout it dat way doe

>>19602705
What are you talking about retard? 4chan is full of some of the most gullible chucklefucks the world has to offer.

>>19601488
>P. E. ratios across the whole market are equivalent to technology during the dotcom bubble
you can't compare them.
It always seems stupid to compare old PE ratios

>>19600277
Based

>>19603136
youre only allowed to borrow $100 dollars, then you get in trouble
*later* youve borrowed $90 dollars! youre going to get in trouble! what are you going to do?
1 - stop spending and pay off the debt?
2 - change the rules so that you don't get in trouble until you borrow $150 dollars?

if you answered #2, congragulations! You get to work in govt!

>>19602674
This. 50% physical silver. 25% gold and silver stocks. 25% cash. Never seen this much nonsense in such concentrated amounts. Future people will talk about it like 1929 and tulip mania. Half these retards probably got burned by bitcoin 3 years ago as well. Thrilling.

>>19602197
>Apple holds over 1 trillion in inventory
Good one chang

>>19602676
>only threat is prospect of these 4 things

Literally these 4 things are prospects in America for the first time, all at the same time.

Are you even breathing?

>>19601800
This, exactly. Most Americans are either in their eyeballs in debt, or have no savings because of their lifestyles. Someone having even $50,000 in a stock account is unheard of in this country. Because of it, standard of living continues to be a shitshow with everyone buying TJ Maxx clearance clothes, 5 year old used shitbox economy cars, and shitty houses or apartments that need tons of work

>>19603136
>What matters is debt to GDP ratio for market crash
why?

>>19605642
Any data for that? Are you saying Europeans don’t also have a ton of debt?

>>19603922
>Manipulation on the paper markets is about to end imminently
they profit from manipulating the paper market so why should they stop?

>>19604221
>Gold is guaranteed to rise, because central banks hold it as money
but you said that they play with paper gold devauating the physical gold

Well, at least we know that the US dollar isn't going to collapse anytime soon. This guy wouldn't own such a large cash position if that were the case.
I'm thinking we're going to see a blowoff top of epic proportions bros.

>>19605583
I can't wait for the same people who got burned on bitcoin get burned now on stocks just as bitcoin starts heading towards $100k. They'll throw a fucking temper tantrum and refuse to buy back in, then as it approaches the magic number, with stocks and fiat crashing into the ground, they'll reverse mortgage their house and dive back into bitcoin just in time for me to dump my bags on their head and buy real property on fire sale.

FOMO retards are the gift that keeps on giving.

>>19601197
get a load of this fag

>>19599775
>He will wait until he sees good buys then make the trades
this nigga is waiting to die

>>19605163
it's alright, Jaz. buy BTC.

>yfw if buffet had put all $137 billion into Hertz last week he would be a trillionaire right now

>>19603630
kek may as well get ge

>>19599714
he's at deaths door

>>19599714
Good thing I get paid in USD

>>19599714
He knows this is dotcom bubble 2.0 so he's waiting for the real crash to happen.

>>19602978
Because despite the USD being fiat, it’s the world reserve currency, and there’s a shit load of capital flight into USD right now with coronavirus and shaky world economy. (Research dollar milkshake theory). The USD will outperform every other national currency, but it’s very possible the USD loses value relative to major asset groups. Notice how gold keeps quietly creeping up along with the stock market? It’s very possible we see a recession in real terms rather than nominal.

>>19603447
Buffet secretly hordes silver through multiple extensions of companies connected to Berkshire Hathaway. You are right about banks though. Not that the financial sector is immune (quite the opposite), but that he’s interest in them. Seems funny right? He sitting on billions of cash and just staring at the banks. Like he’s waiting for them to become..... cheap.

-S

>>19605163
>JAZ EET
Don't feel bad friend. With that kind of dry powder you're above this day trading lottery for peasants, just put it all in a broad market/index ETF like VTSAX, set dividends to reinvest, and don't look for 20 years.

>>19602978

it's not gaining on SEK and SEK is a fucking shit currency. 10.5 SEK for one euro.

>>19601627
>new paradigm
Thank you for confirming my genius of shorting the market

>>19601729
>You simply can't recover from that sort of thing within a year
ahahah

>>19606459
>Buffet secretly hordes silver through multiple extensions of companies connected to Berkshire Hathaway
proof?

>>19605877
check'd
but you think it will be a so easy tought process?
Stocks go down--> btc goes up
It has only showed to go down with stocks until now.... (BTC)

>>19606459
whos S? you sound like you actually know economics

should I be buying gold and BTC right now?

>>19601233
yes because the complete collapse of the financial system was a bear trap

>>19602017
This has to be the most plebian fucktard post I've ever read in this website since 2005.

Jesus fucking christ, how can you be this FUCKING PLEB

>>19602626
>The market doesn't have to make any sense PE ratios and shit are a meme now, this is capital flight from the collapsing EU and third world shitholes, and the zero interest rate bond market(100 year loans from Argentina who is going to buy that dogshit LOL)over 100 countries have applied for IMF assistance.
And do all these things make stocks go up?

>>19599820
>im buying stocks that are low but showed no significant corona drop in march.

Hmm, I did the opposite and bought stuff that crashed hard. Ended up with BP, Shell, more Ford, and more JCP.

I figured oil would have to go back up once travel resumed and the dividends were good in the meantime. So far I'm up 25%. I also did well with Ford in the last recession to the point that what I bought this time was paid for by dividends.

JCP was sort of a Hail Mary. At 21 cents, it wasn't like I had much to lose. I could sell now and triple my money. But it would be awesome if they somehow managed to recover back to ~$10.

Wish I'd had more cash to plow into the market though. There were another half dozen places I could've invested. well, I'm sure the market will tank a few more times in my lifetime so no hurry.

>>19601488
ENOUGH OF THIS ZEROHEDGE BULLSHIT

>>19599714

He didnt expect the FED Cockslap in his face.
He thought that he will get special Share deals in exchange to liquidity to save companies.

Not this time gramp

Guys is it a second wave likley?
They said that vaccines should arrive for January

>>19601729
Dude dont you know the hire and fire mentality of the US corps?

One day you in , the next day you're out.

>>19602233
>This will culminate with the second wave meme
is this possible?
They said vaccines in January

>>19599714
Atlas Shrugged.

>>19599714

All bullshit. He's lost touch

>>19600277
>Still believes March lows will be re-tested

Jesus christ man. You've missed this entire rally haven't you.

I bet you're still social distancing and afraid too

>>19603250
Its still gambling, what if he put millions in an airline or cruise line, and it didn't make it. Why bother taking any risk at all if you don't have to.

>>19600670
>>19600675
>>19600864
>>19601672
>>19602029
>>19602514
>>19603204

>I missed the rally because I'm a stupid fucking doomer nigger bear with an IV to CNN, please please drop again

>>19599714
boomers are becoming obsolete

>>19602059
I'll believe it when I see $1.50 invested into infrastructure.

>>19599714

Warren Buffet has no idea what is going on

The current climate is hardcore attempt at a political coup. The democrats are in full force trying to tank the economy and force Trump out in the fall.

Mark my words. As the market continues to rally you will see CNN go to extreme measures to shill Coronavirus again to try to get people back inside

How do you guys not see this

>>19607286
Literally does not matter as long as hospital occupancy is kept free. Irrelevant headline bait.

>>19605583
>>19605877

>here's the fantasy I jerk my cock too while I sit on trash physical silver and bitcoin

Holy shit you have got to be kidding me, this is too easy

>>19607425
Ya, I did miss the dump as I expected worse. I wasnt actually expecting the fed's printing (it was THEIR manipulation that caused the pump) to do this much since at first they were resulting in dead cat bounces

>>19607425
that said, another dump is due. This isnt me being a "doomer" for the hell of it. The fed are fools and this situation is unsustainable.

>>19607466
How do you not see the rally was caused by the fed's QE and not by some natural means? Economy is shit while stocks are going up due to the fed. They are devaluing the dollar and basically are what is keeping stocks up right now. They are basically holding up a house of cards.

>>19607742
>>19607758
>>19607733

stupid doomer hahahaha

>>19602835
Here's what I don't get: Fed prints trillions of dollars, but there's so much foreign demand for dollars that we don't see inflation...right? But if foreigners are buying all the dollars, they can't also be going into the American economy, can they?

he isn't sitting in cash. he upped BKH cash reserves from 127 billion to 137 billion. and he sold the bottom of the airlines. not a bad idea to have a little more cash ready when you're unsure.

maybe the depression was priced into the march dip. the march dip was predicated on a 3.6% mortality rate and millions of dead americans. now that everyone has realized the china virus is a nothingburger people are slowly realizing the lockdowns were pointless. the real danger here is the virus' long term effects on consumer habits. china had an industrial deflation problem BEFORE the virus and now it's much worse.

we won't see a "real" crash for a few years at least. and that real crash will be catalyzed by the collapse of the PRC.

>>19605603
>he gives a fuck about apple
>buys the latest soi phone
>follows their news closely

I am talking about companies that bottomed out because the chink flu you idiot, most them are totally under valued right now but they won't be for long, Hertz already woke with another 2 dollar bump on after market, no one gives a single fuck about apple, Google, Amazon and Tesla they're all meme companies for new faggots like you

>>19605625
No they're not, the crisis has been greatly aggravated by the fact boomers are scared out their ass

>>19604097
There doesn't need to be a "second wave" for the media to report it. They say stuff, stuff happens.

>>19605178
Ok but how that jew can hide all his wealth in silver without being noticed?
This is you that you're bagholding silver and you wanna hope that

>>19605255
>how much money was that again? say it for that back
UNLIMITED
too bad the same can't be said for value.

>>19607482
>Literally does not matter as long as hospital occupancy is kept free
how is kept free if a lot of people needs it?

>>19607758
>How do you not see the rally was caused by the fed's QE and not by some natural means?
False.
The fed printing was the spark but the actual fire is retarded bumping the market like I bump this tread
They wanna ride the ''nothing burger''

>>19601246
irrelevant

Crash starting today

>>19605767
when interest rates are higher than what GDP can produce in a year you are overindebted

>>19608405
>There doesn't need to be a "second wave" for the media to report it. They say stuff, stuff happens.
Didn't understand

>>19607234
This sounds like the right answer.

>>19599714
LOL retard he missed the dip

>>19599787
Lol and he pulled out of my corrupt province

>>19607466
>here's the fantasy I jerk my cock too while I sit on my lawn mower wearing my maga hat

>>19602668
>giving his wealth to charity

Welcome to the world of tax avoidance

>>19608898
Look at your stock prices

>>19608227
> the march dip was predicated on a 3.6% mortality rate and millions of dead americans
Say you have a population of 1000 people. 100 of those are infected with a virus, 30 of those become so sick as to visit the doctor and 10 of those die from it.
Case Fatality Rate (CFR) = dead / doctor cases = 10 / 30 = 33%
Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) = dead / infected = 10 / 100 = 10%
Mortality = dead / population = 10 / 1000 = 1%

If a virus is bad at spreading, the mortality will be low even if IFR is very high. If a virus is very good at spreading, the mortality will approach the IFR.
Until recently we only knew the CFR, i.e. the number of dead / the number of confirmed cases. It was wildly different in different countries because of different testing criteria, test quality and availability. CFR was as high as 10% in some countries but typically around 5%, trending down towards 2-3% as peaking hotspots subdued. But the question was always: how many unknown infected are there? If there are loads and loads, that would on the one hand mean that your chances of getting infected are higher, but on the other that covid isn't very deadly. That's what ended up happening with swine flu, it spread like hell but turned out to have only 0.02% IFR, much lower than regular flu. That's why all experts, as early as February, said the IFR will probably be lower than the CFR that looked like about 2-3%, so a good guess would be 1-2% IFR.
Well, now we have serology tests, and can know what the IFR is. The first ones gave a lot of false positives and indicated something like swine flu - lots of people infected meaning a low IFR. Then, with more reliable ones, Spain did a country wide, random sample study. 5% of the population were infected, and with the number of dead at the time that meant 1.2% IFR.
So exactly the numbers expert used in models from the start, 1-2% IFR was right, a number that implies millions of dead Americans and that caused the crash.

>>19603424
He didn’t read the /pol post lmao

>>19608750
but if interest rates are usually low... how cn GDP be less then them?

>>19609227
Do you think second wave possible?
Explain please

>>19607466
To be honest it looks like it, it looks like the Democrats were looking for any opportunity to tank the market at every step as a hail Mary attempt to install dementia Joe, they'll keep growing protest and uncertainty until they believe they have achieved their purpose.

In the mean time this are the news this morning pic related

>>19609397
The only way to prevent a second wave is to extinguish the virus, which can only be done by either
1) depriving it of opportunities to spread, i.e. strict, prolonged, country wide lockdowns until we have zero cases and then closed borders until the rest of the world have no cases.
2) Finding a vaccine
3) Arriving at herd immunity

Less than 10% of the population have been infected so far, we are nowhere near herd immunity. It's doubtful that a vaccine is less than a year away. And Trump has grumpily declared that there won't be any more lockdowns, regardless of how many will die. So a second wave is completely inevitable.
What about SARS 1.0? It was extinguished with lockdowns. What about swine flu? You probably had it, wasn't deadly. What about the summer heat? Probably won't even make a dent in SARS 2.0, meaning there might technically not even be a second wave as such, just continued exponential curve from when we reopen. But even if heat kills the virus, it's always summer somewhere, the virus will survive and in that case the second wave will come in the fall. But it will probably come right about...now.

because he knows the virus is permanent and will leave over a billion people crippled. Once this info is released and cant be denied anymore, the dow will crash to 10k, and then he will buy

>>19609397
I mean look at the red line in pic related to get an idea of what a second wave even means. With more than half of the world's population under lockdown we've managed to get it close to linear (R0=1) instead of exponential growth (R0 > 1). If we kept the planet under lockdown, it would take a while but 1.2% of the world's population would still die from covid. We can only avoid that by getting the spread below linear (R0 < 1), which implies even stricter lockdowns.
Instead, we are now reopening, so R0 will go from 1 back to 2 or even 3, that is the currently linear growth will resume being exponential. Such an R0 implies pretty much the whole country will become infected, and with IFR = 1.2% that means almost 4 million dead Americans. That or it's back to lockdowns and linear growth, hoping that buys us enough time to find a vaccine. It's the only rational choice but the question is how long it will take and how many dead before Trump caves.

>>19605819

Many people say that the silver manipulation is impossible to keep going for much longer. The banks are beginning to run for the exits. See what Chris Marcus of Arcadia Economics is reporting today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbWauOCFXM

>>19605489

This is like saying "You can't compare the fact that houses are 8 times earnings now with the fact that they used to be 2 times earnings." An asset-bubble is an asset-bubble, it must come down.

>>19603447

Matthew Crowder of Trader University, 2 weeks ago: "Is Warren Buffett Buying Silver?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcM6aqWUm6k

>>19608227

The "real" crash (in terms of gold) is imminent. If you mean the nominal crash, it will either come soon, should the Fed not institute YCC; or it will come in 2023 or 2024, when people are wallpapering their houses with dollar-bills.

>>19607425

People who invest in precious metals could not care less about gambling on bankrupt stock like Hertz. When silver went from 1 dollar to 2.5 dollars, the average small-cap miner went up 150%. You could have turned $100,000 into 15 million. People who are foolish enough to keep gambling on this market will eventually slip up, as gamblers always do, and they will lose everything. Buy gold.

>>19605819

Many people say that the silver manipulation is impossible to keep going for much longer. The banks are beginning to run for the exits. See what Chris Marcus of Arcadia Economics is reporting today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbWauOCFXM

>>19605489

This is like saying "You can't compare the fact that houses are 8 times earnings now with the fact that they used to be 2 times earnings." An asset-bubble is an asset-bubble, it must come down.

>>19603447
>>19606608

Matthew Crowder of Trader University, 2 weeks ago: "Is Warren Buffett Buying Silver?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcM6aqWUm6k

>>19608227

The "real" crash (in terms of gold) is imminent. If you mean the nominal crash, it will either come soon, should the Fed not institute YCC; or it will come in 2023 or 2024, when people are wallpapering their houses with dollar-bills.

>>19607425

People who invest in precious metals could not care less about gambling on bankrupt stock like Hertz. When silver went from 1 dollar to 2.5 dollars, the average small-cap miner went up 150x (not 150%). You could have turned $100,000 into 15 million. People who are foolish enough to keep gambling on this market will eventually slip up, as gamblers always do, and they will lose everything. Trust the fundamentals and buy gold.

>>19606672

Buy gold, either physical or the miners (GDX, GDXJ). Do not buy the paper scam known as GLD. Do not buy Bitcoin; it's a ponzi-scheme without a use-case. Invest only 2% of your net-worth into cryptocurrency at the most and get XMR, BCH, ETH.

>>19599714
the truth is that game was rigged from the beginnig

((They)) always tell you what they are doing 1 month later when it suits their needs

>>19609715
>Many people say that the silver manipulation is impossible to keep going for much longer.

They have been saying that forever. I bought into metals at least 12 years ago. Heard the same stuff from Glenn Beck and Peter Schiff.

Stock prices are a living fantasy these days, that’s why.

>>19611532

This time it really is different. I implore you to consider the information in these videos.

Bart Chilton Talks About JP Morgan and Silver Manipulation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n665orfBOqM

NO ESCAPE as FED REPLAYS GFC at HYPER-SCALE | Rob Kirby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3eFmXOr54

Dr Marc Faber: How Is Silver $15 With Unlimited Fed QE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDpyMW4QGWM

Fed Hyperinflation Is Driving Investors Into Silver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRN0cdomZKg

Alasdair Macleod: Banks Are Losing Control of Gold Price

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AqybjlUlQc

DOJ Appears to be Preparing Full Assault on JPM | Ted Butler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeHkk4bdywY

Andrew Maguire: “Wholesale Silver Shortage” Reflected In Widening SLV Spread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s84ReWmh9ms

Gold now beginning to surge. Stocks to open in the red. Get ready everybody.

>>19601197
That’s first paragraph is insignificant compared to the necessary reaping of profits in stock equities. Central banks printed up trillions to foster liquidity for it, there will never be enough liquidity to take profits fully with prices so high. That’s why the rich want cash, it’s the only way to profit.

>>19606242
no he wouldnt, please read about slippage and liquidity, you robinhood bastard

Ha, went to bed and my thread is still alive.

>>19602059
Last time on Dragon Ball Z.

Dollar strengthened because poor Latin Americans realized their dollar substitutes are near worthless. That doesn’t exactly mean the dollar is worth something though. They (South Americans) are running out of purchasing power for USD so this trend is a one time deal.

>>19599714
Because he sold the bottom.

>>19599755
He's certainly not how he publicly portrays himself. There's definitely the character Warren Buffett that is framed as some follsky old time investor who is functionally just like every retail investor just buyin good old stocks like you buy your fast food and television sets! Then there's the reality where he's a lot closer to someone like Soros, Druckenmiller, or Paul Tudor Jones.

>>19599714
The truth about buffett
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpTUBgUYgc

>>19607155
>invests in the fossils of the fossil fuel economy
Get your +25% out quick, cause this dead cat bounce is about to end. Fossil fuels will be a thing of the past in 5 years, this is why the corona hoax was introduced and the fossil fuel economy tanked.

Governments and the elites know they have to end emissions ASAP and they're trying to pass the hot potato off to retail investors before crashing those markets with no survivors

Take your gains and go all in in TSLA

Most replied thread guys.