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>> No.19581756

>tfw no cute Japanese gf with nice feet

>> No.19581761
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19581761

So who's buying more oil stocks in the morning?

>> No.19581768

Futures crabbing towards red did we get too cocky bull chads? I’m nervous

>> No.19581771
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19581771

I believe.

>> No.19581775

What's going to happen to ZM bros...

It's a webcam app that would take over 200 years to earn it's market cap and the black swan event pushing it up is over

>> No.19581790

FIRST FOR FOMO

>> No.19581798

>>19581756
What’s wrong with GUSH? Seems solid.

>> No.19581799
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19581799

I'm still alive after last night.
I now want to take a moment to flex all over the fucking bears.
>pic related

>> No.19581801

Who /NRGU/ here????

>> No.19581802

>>19581747
I would close 70-80% of those positions, let some ride. of the 70-80%, leave at least half in cash. if you want to keep gambling, feel free with the remainder. Make sure you're not investing with money you could need in the next three to six months.

>> No.19581809
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19581809

I told ya

>> No.19581810

Eat at Denny’s.

>> No.19581811
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>>19581761
I'm going full retard and swapping Canadian financial stocks for HFU. I want financials to shit their pants for a moment and have a doji day and then back up to the moon.

>> No.19581812
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>>19581761
Multiple orders in, screw these liars.

>> No.19581817

reposting for new thread

I never did any trading before
I decided to try it out because of the Corona dip and the Oil price being lowered.
put £300 pounds in a few things and left it there for a few weeks
I'm £400 pound up.

I think it did good for my first attempt but this does feel like gambling. I only did it because the dip was an easy jumping on point.
what should I do now?


>>19581773
is it likely to keep going up? I think If I was going to double down I should've done it as soon as it went into the green.

>> No.19581818

What do you guys think of TWO? Isn’t commercial real estate going to continue suffering?

>> No.19581819

I just started RH, got a free share of Antero Midstream. Is that good? Anyone here that can offer me advice? Where should I research?

>> No.19581824

I wish i had a qt 3.14 inside trader

>> No.19581828
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>>19581817
>is it likely to keep going up? I think If I was going to double down I should've done it as soon as it went into the green.
I'm planning to do something similar:
>>19581811
We'll see.
The downside is your losses double as well.

>> No.19581835

>>19581771
I've been agnostic the last decade but lately I've been feeling a need to believe in God again, also correlating to some enormous success on the market and in my personal life.

Should I take the Jesus pill....?

>> No.19581839
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19581839

> tfw no more free capital to play with

Wish I had unlimited money.

>> No.19581841

>>19581761
I have a bunch oil stocks already and I don't want to put all of my eggs in one basket. i need to look into other sectors and try to beat /biz/ to the punch.

>> No.19581845

>>19581799
fuuuuck. What plays?

>> No.19581849
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>>19581819
Sell it and get exposure to utlities via XLU. if you don't want defensive stocks, then pass on that. many decry utils for having too low a yield right now.

>> No.19581855

Tfw when u are brazilian and trading shitstocks are the only viable option

>> No.19581858

Hows IVR gonna fair tomorrow?

>> No.19581860

what the fuck happened with oil? i can't find any news

>> No.19581862

>>19581839

Stocks are at all time highs and you don't have cash? You are doing something wrong.

>> No.19581864
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19581864

RIP bilibili. They're getting rid of their 22-chan and 33-chan mascot on their app launch screen because of alleged reference to Lesbianism which is deemed unacceptable

>> No.19581867

>>19581817
Bruh did you read my reply? Don't be dumb. I'm up $17,000 this year because I'm being smart and cautious.

>> No.19581874
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19581874

I asked this in the last thread but here it goes again:
How are these diapers supposed to make me a better investor? Some anons here recommended them for maximum portfolio gainz. I started wearing them today and I don't feel any difference. What am I doing wrong?

>> No.19581876
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19581876

Post your degenerate gambles

>> No.19581877

>>19581860
Saudi

>> No.19581881
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19581881

pls roast my portfolio

>> No.19581883
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HEALTHCARE MEAT HEADS

>> No.19581884
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19581884

>oil crashes
>buy more CEQP when it bottoms out
>oil booms
>shitpost about SSL for the next week
>>19581839
No you don't. That ruins the fun and meaning you get from the decisions you do make. All the joy, fear, regret, sorrow, and ecstasy that comes from your buys and sells would be gone.

>> No.19581886

>>19581799
3.5 years for 16k?
oof senpai

>> No.19581889

>>19581876
Jesus Christ this is a retarded play.

>> No.19581891

>>19581860
Jobs report has an error, oils seemed to get spooked by the dow futures dildo. I know I got out of there.

>> No.19581896

>>19581860
Oil cuts from opec+
Largest oil spill in Russia Arctic.
Argentina getting earthquake fucked.

https://business.financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/shell-suspends-operations-in-argentinas-vaca-muerta-area-after-seismic-activity

Yes somehow oil shortages coming yet prices go down.

>> No.19581904

>>19581886
damn I didn't see the timeline, what a careful faggot.

>> No.19581906
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>>19581855
>brazilian
what's going to happen to your iron mines?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-06/vale-plant-shut-by-brazilian-judge-on-virus-fears-reuters-says
is Rio Tinto a buy?

>> No.19581909

>>19581889
He basically admitted he's some transplant from WSB, so him getting fucked in the ass like that isn't a surprise.

>> No.19581910
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>>19581867
Wish this was me. Was up considerably, then wasted all my gains, and then some, by gambling like a mad man. Nearly back to break even though, so can't complain. At the least i'll get a sweet tax write off.

>> No.19581913

>>19581896
>what is demand

>> No.19581915

>>19581858
Predicting steady gains for IVR throughout the summer as people figure out how to buy real estate during coronatimes

>> No.19581922

>>19581867
I thought that thread was abandoned. I get what you mean, slowly build up and be cautious.
>>19581828
ok

>> No.19581927

>>19581896
Prices were overbid, we'll see a correction first, and then a maintainable rise. That being so if there's no second wave and demand goes up.

>> No.19581931

>>19581877
saudi what??
>>19581891
fucking bullshit it goes +5% gap open and now red. holy fuck
>>19581896
those things are what made it gap open i mean it went back red now

>> No.19581938

>>19581906
Brazil is fucked with corona, it might happen and vale will get cucked.

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>>19581931
>it went back red now

nuh ugh sonny boi

oil is mooning about to break 40

>> No.19581944

>>19581896
>>19581913
It's just second-trading robots doing their nonsense.
>>19581931
Commodities are very volatile and 2x commodity ETFs tend to 0 because of that.

>> No.19581945

>>19581915
Yeah, I feel they're due for another boost. People have still been buying through out corona and with this bullish energy I feel real good heading into tomorrow. Though, long-term my confidence is not so strong.

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why is it robinhood puts in an order at $57.62 when the stock is opening at $52.99 is there something I'm missing?

>> No.19581947
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>>19581913
eat a bag of dicks, you think those amazon trucks and planes run on pony farts you retard?

>> No.19581949

uh oh stinky...

>> No.19581950

>>19581889
I mean it's 3 weeks to expiry it could pay off

>> No.19581955

>>19581891
>Jobs report has an error
which will get revised in, but at that point we'll only care about the NEW jobs report, and the corection won't make front-page news, unlike friday's number.

>>19581883
what's wrong with healthcare??

>>19581864
NOOOOOOO
>chinese encouraging procreation and discouraging homosexuality because it doesn't boost military and economic strength
...makes sense

how'd you find this out? can you read that? Has the price of bili on the HK exchange taken a hit?
I would REALLY like to buy back in at a discount.

>> No.19581964

>>19581943
all is good now. back to recent peak plz and then into the fucking moon

>> No.19581965

shill me some race war stocks because it is happening.

>> No.19581966

>>19581845
Currently SSO and SPXL
>>19581886
I've only had upwards of 30k in the account for about 1.5 years.
I specifically added in 25k over the course of coronavirus.

>> No.19581969

>>19581946
Why are you buying after market?? Just wait until tomorrow morning

>> No.19581976
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19581976

I summon the TVIX retard.

>> No.19581980

>>19581946
Because you put in a market order off-hours.

>> No.19581984
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Covered call plays for this weeks earnings.
Ticker, Price, Rating, Strike, Premium as % of current price
PLAY 18.89, Bearish, 19.0C 12.4%
GME 4.14, Bearish, 4.5C 7.2%
CHWY 48.44, No rating, 48.5C 6.4%
PLCE 52.16, Bearish, 55.0C 5.7%

I think CHWY has the best upside, literally everyone is ordering for their pets from them.
PLAY has the biggest downside, they still aren't open and are basically still fucked.
GME who the fuck knows but keep this in mind: Short % of Float (May 15, 2020) = 251.30%

>> No.19581983
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>>19581976
TVIX investor chan is hanging off the side of a cliff already

>> No.19581990

I hope the DAL gains keep rolling next week.

>> No.19581993

>>19581983

TVIX investor is on a beach somewhere retired after march.

>> No.19581996

>>19581922
This is how I play the market now:

1. I get a goal in mind. My goal this year is to buy a Tesla 3 Performance cash, that's $65k.

2. I give myself limit on top and bottom gains, I need to make $5k a month so I need to be a little risky, but not so risky that I lose it all. I won't choose options with such high volatility that intraday change could make or break me. I try to keep only 35% of my equity leveraged into options.

3. I get the fuck out once I'm up. I don't care if the stock shoots to 4000% after I sold. If I make $300-$500 a day I'm happy.

4. Always sell before earnings if you're playing earnings.

5. Never pick expiry dates less than 2 weeks out.

These things have helped me enormously in preventing loss and being a faggot.

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>>19581969
even with DAL? I'm expecting it to go up when market opens again, wouldn't want to miss the pump..

>> No.19581999

>>19581927
this guy's got it. demand is increasing, but we might be due for a second shock. Eyes on BR, SK, and USA.

>>19581938
based. What are some of the other big exports? I'm moving into iron, and looks like I'm going to need to move faster. Thoughts on Copper? Coffee?

>> No.19582008

>>19581955
Nothing wrong with healthcare is a booming industry.

>> No.19582010

>>19581881
>WORK
literally why, do you have a reason?

>> No.19582017

>>19581946
I believe the intention is a cushion so that your buy will still be executed if the price rises before you get a seller. You'll notice that the actual buy price will be between the opening price and the price given in your order summary.

>> No.19582020

>>19581950
There is absolutely zero chance SPY doesn't correct far below 300 before EOM.

>> No.19582032

>>19581998
Who cares if it pumps at open? It will probably hover within a dollar range for the first hour. Also why are you buying DAL? Get SKYW

>> No.19582033

>>19581984
I have like 4 neighbors in my complex ordering from CHWY weekly.

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>>19581993
I don't think you know who I'm summoning.

>> No.19582038

>blood red futures

>> No.19582047
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>>19581998
Let's play guess the shitcoin (XXX/USD)

>> No.19582054

>>19581999
Any food and non-cyclical stocks will likely moon. We are fucked, mainly in Sao Paulo(by far the most important city), quarantine will last for at least another 2 months

>> No.19582059

Is TWO a good pick for the week?

>> No.19582060

>>19582033
Same thing here. Its a new stock, considered tech, very hot right now.

>> No.19582061

>>19582020
>There is absolutely zero chance SPY doesn't correct far below 300 before EOM.
so it was a bear in disguise the whole time

>>19581876
All you need is 1% gain on SPY a week to win this gamble - it's possible

>> No.19582062

>>19581876
>>19581889
LEL I had 7/17 340 calls but I sold them as soon as they turned green.

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19582067

NOOOOO NOT MY BASEDBEANS

>> No.19582071

>>19581996

Love this post.

>investing goal for the year is to buy a meme sports car for $65k
>I need to make $5k a month
>35% of portfolio is options

>> No.19582080

>>19582010
I bought in at $31.30 just after the huge ER sell off. I'm expecting it to bounce back this week.

>> No.19582082
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>CCL up 4% right now in futurea

>> No.19582090

>>19581881
FSLY only non-trash there

>> No.19582092
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>>19582008
based. are there any plays you're looking at?
I'm pretty heavy in LLY and REGN, but they seem to be weakening. Eyeing HCA, EHTH, And thinking about adding to my BMY and MRK.

>> No.19582094

>>19581799
>28% in 3.5 years
>everyone pulled 40% just last week
Lad...

>> No.19582095
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>>19581876
I want you to be right, I think it wont be happening next month.

>> No.19582100
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>>19581835
Read the shit like dead sea Scrolls. The original abrahamics believed in multiple gods and then the peasants were only told of one basically. Makes ya think some of the elites dont want you to worship the real gods. Also its made to cuck you into sacrificing your kids and family, at least in a non literal way.

>> No.19582121

>>19581876
>4k on a fairly cautious and reasonable play
>gamble

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>>19582054
Thanks for the input. I'm USA and playing raw materials due to outbreak, but I'll look into Utils and Telecoms. USA and North America don't have the largest iron operations, but there's a few companies that look like they will really benefit from a supply shock due to Corona since our health infrastructure should be able to handle things well enough. For the areas that matter in BR, what country might it look most like? UK, USA, KR? a brapper for your thoughts

>> No.19582128

>>19582061
I am bull as fuck I'm just also not retarded. SPY 350+ EOY? Definitely.

>> No.19582129

>>19581955
>how'd you find this out? can you read that?
Yes
>Has the price of bili on the HK exchange taken a hit?
It is not being traded in HK or other Asian markets
>I would REALLY like to buy back in at a discount.
By this point you should know that such day to day occurrence of censorship won't really impact their stock price

>> No.19582133

>>19582034
wtf. how long has he been holding tvix?

>> No.19582135
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19582135

RISE

>> No.19582136

>>19581990
What about AAL?

>> No.19582143

>>19581835
>Should I take the Jesus pill....?
Christianity is for weak-minded slaves. Read Nietzsche instead and become an Ubermensch.

>> No.19582156

>>19581996
>3. I get the fuck out once I'm up. I don't care if the stock shoots to 4000% after I sold. If I make $300-$500 a day I'm happy.

You shouldnt sell if a stock is mooning like that. Let your runners run, while constantly setting a new pullback limit from the highs. So lets say you want to make atleast 100% gains on a stock. So it moves from 5-10 bucks. Rather than selling at 10, you let it run. If it pulls back 20% to 8, sell. So, lets say it's moved to $11 with no pullback. Your new exit point is now 20% of $11, so 8.80, in the case of a pullback that far.

This strat will let your stock constantly run, while allowing ignoring smaller fluctuations, and will let you exit in the case that it drops heavily.

>> No.19582160

is oil pullback happening in the morning? fuck

>> No.19582165

>mfw dj will probably hit 30k by next week

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>>19581876

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ohhh bullcucks...your precious green futures are starting to diiiipppp.... are-are they going to turn red soon????

>> No.19582188

>>19581876
UVXY at an average cost of about $34

>> No.19582190

>>19581858
probs buying some IVR to go with my MITT tomorrow. might grab GPMT but we'll see. energy I like are SSL NBLX OIS HLX.

>> No.19582194

>>19582071
Eh, my wife is a medical resident and I make decent money. I don't need to give much of a fuck about my personal robinhood account.

But if I'm going to gamble there should be some rules.

>>19582100
True.

>> No.19582197

>>19581996
I get what you mean. I would be happy if I could make 50k to put towards a property. I'm can also be patient about it.

>> No.19582200

>>19582090
>he doesn't know about $CARR

Big yikes from me.

>> No.19582201

>>19582178
What's that mean for my small energy company?

>> No.19582207

>>19582126
None of those, BR will soon be the center of the epidemic

>> No.19582213

BASED HURRICANES MAKING OIL 100 A BARREL FOR JULY 4TH WEEKEND

MAKING 40K ON USO CALLS

>> No.19582217

>>19582178
You really wanna go through another round of this? You'll gloat about another crash until 9:30 EST and everyone will have to talk you bears out of suicide because you buy our bags and entertain us.

>> No.19582218

>>19582156
I will take this advice.

>> No.19582221
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RISE....LORD.......BOBO

>> No.19582225

>>19582178
BRRR comes in at 8.30 dumb bear

>> No.19582236

>>19582197
The chans seem to give safer plays than wsb. I'm gonna try lurking a bit more.

>> No.19582250

>>19582092
I'm looking at INMD, they are an Israeli maker of medical devices for non-invasive surgery. Great earnings growth, excellent ROE and only around 56 million shares outstanding.

>> No.19582251

>>19582201
not much, Index funds have more control over your small energy company.
https://www.finscreener.com/map/map/sp500

>> No.19582257

>>19582221
>futures meaning anything until an hour before trading

>> No.19582258

about to go all in on NRGU after the first pullback. Im feeling it

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>>19582207
no, USA needs to be #1. freedom ain't free. I'm expecting SP to be worse than NYC and LA combined. I don't know what this means for the country at large however. Middle america really only needed to stop medium and large size gatherings and should be ok to get back their medium size gatherings and maybe very small events now that there's a somewhat liquid pool of resources in our hospital systems. What will likely happen to your industry? that blomberg article being at the top of my search might be pretty damning.

>> No.19582264

>>19582250
32 million shares outstanding*

>> No.19582268

>>19582178
stfu don't get too cocky

>> No.19582273

>>19582258
3x is too spooky for me.

>> No.19582274

>>19582168
oof, i think youll be fine if the week ends green though
>>19582236
wsb has too many new investors - it's bad to use for advice but I guess its OK to browse if you know what youre doing

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Am I gonna make it biz if i holdMRO, RTX, OKE, SSL? Can I finally afford to flee the US and retire in a third world island nation as a king or should I just go with my plan b and buy a quality rope and wander off into the secluded forest so as not to live my life as the world collapses around my eyes?

>> No.19582280

>>19582251
Why'd I jump 50% last week then?

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Reminder for tomorrow in case you forgot.

>> No.19582290

>>19582129
yeah... thanks I was just hopeful for a buyable pullback. But it's actually bullish if it's the CCP telling them to get rid of the mascots, and they're complying.

I thought it was trading on other markets, because it's an ADR in the US, which I've only ever seen for foreign stocks on other markets. Maybe it can be used for companies that are privately traded in foreign countries as well.

Is that you HKanon? Thanks for the info and I hope you're doing well!

>>19582250
Thanks, I'll give it a look.

>> No.19582302

>>19582257
>FUTURES RIPPING
>Pfffft h-ha f-f-futures don't m-matter

>> No.19582308

>>19582280
because people are getting smarter then asset managers dicking around at the golf course and picking winners and losers.

>> No.19582335

Arise market.. market arise...

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>>19582288
Bet against the adult diaper wearing king of boomers.

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>>19582308
the millennial robinhood uprising

the greatest transfer of wealth

boomers will lose everything

>> No.19582367

>>19582335
I'm hoping for a doji.

>> No.19582390

>>19582273
if there's a BIG pullback and we're not looking like we'll re-close, i'm personally going to shoot for something like 80/15 unleveraged Oil index / OXY. Hedged with 5% in a tiny bag of FRO or EURN. OXY should get you more upside. tankers will take some burn off of a no tariffs and/or slow recovery to demand scenario.

>> No.19582439

>>19581749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6T_gbwsDIA

>> No.19582476

>>19582259
Are Brazilian wearing masks? Are they wearing it properly?

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>>19582367
Arise market arise

>> No.19582483
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>S&P futures form a bull flag range on the hourly
Bears start celebrating? How many times are we gonna do this? The most basic of basic TA is don't short a high volume push upwards (like Friday) and don't short bull flags. And the opposite if you're long and trying to hit the reversal just right. Don't go long on high volume red, don't go long on bear flags.

I'm in a shitty mood this evening. The neighbours are being loud.

>> No.19582492

>>19582302
futures only matter when they are green

>> No.19582501

>>19582492
Futures don't matter, because we have no future.

>> No.19582507

AAL
F
GE
KOS
KTOV
MITT
MRO
T

Should I add or remove something? I only have $2k to play with so I don't want something with too high of a share price.

>> No.19582514

>>19582483
>The neighbours are being loud.
Are they black?

>> No.19582520

Lots of tutes and fun ds rely on insider info

Tgey didnt have that edge so far in 2020

Btfo out by robinhooders who ignore the fud and corona

>> No.19582531

>>19582514
turkroaches. They're nice and the missus is a good cook. Usually quiet. I don't know why loud tonight.

>> No.19582534

>>19582507
Aren't Ford and GE getting pretty close to year Highs? I know Ford isn't paying dividends yet.

>> No.19582536

What if I buy 2week SPY calls, and then sell them and re-buy as soon as they go up enough to buy +1 calls a further two weeks out.

Say I buy 2 calls ITM for $600 each at 320, and after 1 week they go up +50% (which takes about 1% gain on SPY). I now have $1800 - so I sell out and immediately re-buy 3 calls again for $600 each at 323 the new "normal" a further 2 weeks out. Now that I hold 3 calls, I only need them to go up about +33% (which takes about 0.75% gain on SPY) in order to be able to afford 4 calls. When I own 4 calls, I only need them to go up +25% (which takes about 0.5% gain on SPY) in order to sell and buy 5 calls, etc.

Since I'm trading 2week calls, even 3-5 red days in a row won't necessarily ruin my trades, and as long as the overall market is trending up the odds that I will sell green within 2 weeks is extremely high, and the relative gain I need in order to 'upgrade' to +1 becomes increasingly smaller (10 calls only needing a 10% gain, or about 0.2% on the SPY).

Is this the fastest way to turn a small investment into a fortune during a bull run?

>> No.19582538

Remember recently when cnbc marched out big boomer names no one here had heard of like drunken mucker and shit to say to sell kek

>> No.19582544
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Dis iz da lyfe i liv

>> No.19582549

>>19582536
>Since I'm trading 2week calls, even 3-5 red days in a row won't necessarily ruin my trades,
I honestly, sincerely hope you don't believe this

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>>19582520
Sometimes insider info is bullshit.

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>>19582476
BR is likely either too poor to do anything or too packed for it to matter. That's my guess at least.

>>19582483
>last two week's push up were high volume
it's ok senpai. have a snack or something

>> No.19582562

>>19582534
No. GE has a ways to go.

>> No.19582567

>>19582020
SPY is not correcting below 300 for a long while People are FOMOing and nobody has anywhere else to funnel their money. JPowell made the stock market too attractive to invest in instead of trying to invest in new or smaller businesses. He had good intentions but he well overcorrected the market.

>> No.19582569

>>19582534
They still have a little ways to go to get there. Plus I kind of wanted a boomer stock. I can drop them if they're no good though. Maybe for something in the IT sector

>> No.19582573

>>19582561
Friday was high volume.

>> No.19582599

>>19581819
FCEL it should get a nice jump this week. Long term outlook is even better.

>> No.19582600

>>19582290
>yeah... thanks I was just hopeful for a buyable pullback. But it's actually bullish if it's the CCP telling them to get rid of the mascots, and they're complying.
They have been very actively complying with most censorship orders
>I thought it was trading on other markets, because it's an ADR in the US, which I've only ever seen for foreign stocks on other markets. Maybe it can be used for companies that are privately traded in foreign countries as well.
Investopedia say:
> Asponsored ADRis an American depositary receipt (ADR) that a bank issues on behalf of a foreign company whose equity serves as the underlying asset. Asponsored ADRcreates a legal relationship between the ADR and the foreign company, which absorbs the cost of issuing the security.
This is apparently different from regular ADRs

>Is that you HKanon? Thanks for the info and I hope you're doing well!
I am still pondering which direction should I move towards from now on, given the states of affair

>> No.19582607

>>19582536
During a bull run? No, SPXL calls will do better, but the risk is higher that your bull run will turn crabby and it only takes 1 wrong call to kill your whole strat. So ya probs stick to spy, seems worth a shot.

>> No.19582612

>>19582549
Of course even 2 red days could drop options to near $0, but I'm talking about how long you need to average in a bull market in order to (reasonably) reliably go net positive. If you get some red days and your options drop to 0, and you continue to hold for another 5 days and they recover then the trade still pays out.

If SPY legitimately drops over a 2 week average, the market has turned and holding basically anything is fucked, or you should start buying puts.

>> No.19582620

>>19582569
Missed HPQ 15$ drop, and HPE drop.
Well it might happen again. I don't know.
Looking at cloud computing but all those seem to suck right now.

>> No.19582625

>>19582538
>muh david tepper
>muh stanley drunkenmiller
literally who? Tom Lee and Nelson Peltz blew those retards the fuck out

>> No.19582630

>>19582569
I'd keep GE. Healthcare is booming. Renewable will be to over the years as more and more attention focuses on it. Power is on the path to being profitable again. Aviation will pickup speed soon as airplanes start flying again (airplane services rake in a lot of money not merely the engines). Capital will take a bit longer but it'll get there again.

>> No.19582639

what the fuck is happening to oil futures?

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>>19582567
>nobody has anywhere else to funnel their money
>buffett's dumb!
>soros is a homo!
>cuban is retarded!
>bond yields are shit!
>cash is gonna zimbibwe for sure!
>equities have no real risk!
i love /smg/ when it gets busy.

>>19582573
relative to the rest of the week it was higher than average, but volume is continuing to taper off. For day traders, you're right, but for anyone swinging or entering, i think it's inconclusive or too risky for entry.

>> No.19582655

Why has trading gotten so popular with the 'slight autistic, would otherwise be playing videogames' crowd?

>> No.19582659

>>19582639

Retail newfags getting fleeced thinking OIL MUST GO UP OIL MUST GO UP IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE WRONG

>> No.19582665

>>19582612
Google Theta decay

>> No.19582674

>>19582625
Never heard of either. I wanna listen to people who know how backprop works at least.

>> No.19582675

>>19582639
Minor dip, about 1hr ago.
https://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil

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>>19582659
oil is not dictated by what people are buying in stocks

oil is its own animal from saudi arabia

>> No.19582685

>>19582655
The dopamine I get from gains is like an orgasm

>> No.19582686

>>19582655
Realized its easier than getting b on iccup

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>>19582639
Just doing typical oil stuff. Trade the mud water long enough you'll become accustomed to this sort of jerky stuff on the chart.

>>19582653
>i think it's inconclusive or too risky for entry.
Sure, I agree with that. I think it's crazy to enter the OPPOSITE direction coming off a day like that though.

>> No.19582691

>>19581884
I sold covered calls at 15, 17.50 and 20 on CEQP. I already am regretting it. My avg was 7.80 (started buying at 3.90) I don't want to let those sweet dividends go.

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>>19581799
You are like little baby. Watch this

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>>19582687
its dinosaur water dude

beer is mud water or mud beverage

>> No.19582699

>>19582675
>minor dip
>fell almost 2% in 15 minutes
u dumb m8?

>> No.19582700

>>19582655
If you're burning away your years in front of a screen you may as well do it in something that can make you money, no? I get that.

>> No.19582702

>>19581775
I need it to dump. My puts are bleeding me

>> No.19582703

Tfw no big good rts esport right now. Tfw wc3 remastered was blundered. Plz gookclick come back.

>> No.19582716

>>19581768
I hope tomorrow is red. I've got 9k stuck in transfer until Tuesday.
What exchange gives instant deposit and free trading?

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how high will jcp go?

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>>19582703
i tried valorent cuz im desperate for a new game

and i uninstalled it after 1 match

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>>19582697
Noted.

>> No.19582738

why aren't you rich yet

>> No.19582746

>>19582697
I'm pretty sure it's dead plankton.

>> No.19582747

>>19582699
>oil
>2%
>not a minor dip
...

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>>19582728
actually i was w rong i was thinking about something else

beer is piss beverage

piss. is the proper term i was looking for.

>> No.19582750

>>19581966
>I specifically added in 25k over the course of coronavirus.

Somehow it feels like this makes it worse. You were liquid as fuck and surrounded by cheapies. What a missed opportunity. Imagine if youd put some of that to ET, or AAL or NCHL. Hell even Ford turned out a great buy.

>> No.19582755

>>19582703
Didn’t a remastered C&C just come out?
Or are you looking for something to watch?
>>19582600
Got any ideas on where you’d like to be and what you want to do? I hope you figured something out to help get your assets out safely.

>> No.19582756

>>19582719
thats a man

>> No.19582757

>>19582302
You will learn your lesson well, bear faggot.

>> No.19582760

>>19582738
I am a bear

>> No.19582764

>>19581946
Use limit order

>> No.19582769

>>19582738
being rich is too easy, i stay of modest wealth to keep life exciting

>> No.19582775

>>19582630
Yeah I kinda like GE too. I'm mostly checking which sectors are doing well and will continue to do well and then picking stocks I like from those sectors off my watchlists. I think I'll stick with this lineup and see how it does over the next few weeks. I won't put more than $200 into each one to minimize losses

>> No.19582778

>>19582738
I will be by the end of this week.

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>>19582728
Don’t listen to that idiot, beer is bread soda. Everyone knows that.
How many KO shares you got? I regret massively selling all my KO calls on Friday, especially selling them so early.

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>>19582687
based cunnybro. sorry to hear about those neighbors tho.

>>19582697
>beer is mud water
>not liquid bread
god you're such a fucking homo. you must drink Korean shit. (yes i've drank it, and it's fucking miller and bud). there were some microbrews popping up in Japan around when I last visited. Hopefully there are some popping up in Korea. with their fad culture, SK would be hella saturated with microbrews if it took off. I wonder how their copy paste mainstreet model will handle something as finicky as brewing.

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>>19582784
liquid bread that they put 2% of poison from a rubbing alcohol tube they just dumped right in and thought it would taste good

>> No.19582799 [DELETED] 

>>19582755
Idk it has to be a certain level. The sad thing is devs dont understand good rts and how to make one.

Im too lazy and shouldnt even be trading. I should be working on ai... I did make a game once but shelved it, was pretty good desu.

>> No.19582804

>>19581771
I also believe. God is good.

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>>19581976

>> No.19582811

>>19582738
I bet against jpow because i made half of my portfolio being a bobo

>> No.19582813

>>19582755
>Got any ideas on where you’d like to be and what you want to do? I hope you figured something out to help get your assets out safely.
Getting assets out is the easy part. The difficult part would be to decide the future of myself

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they must have used whole wheat bread when they made bread soda

and then let it rot on the table until it had poison growing in it
\

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Rate my portfolio Anons?

>> No.19582819

>>19582692
Plays, faggot.

>> No.19582827

>>19582813
Australia, tw, japan.

>> No.19582829

that multiscan trinitron is nice

>> No.19582837

>>19582818
>LTM
Bruhah they're going bankrupt, get your money out before it's gone

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>FUTURES

>> No.19582845
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>NKLA
>XSPA
how does tomorrow look for me guys?

>> No.19582849

How’s everyone feel about Chesapeake energy? 3x return

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>>19582797
>as he posts fucking soju roasts
>from the top consuming country of spirits
soju is literally fucking diluted ethanol if you're drinking the commoner shit. what the fuck is wrong with you. There's a reason it's 1000 won. somaek is pretty fun tho. You should go to korea with some friends that are a little more adjusted than you if they don't have their borders permantly closed by the time you get around to it. the friends should make a connection with an english teacher or a native online. maybe you'll grow a little. Great party country for young'ins, especially if you're not chasing tail (because Japan is better for that). Shoot for Hongdae or Busan.

>> No.19582856

>>19582439
God damn jews

>> No.19582860

>>19582845
Nkla and gold are only things Im tempted to short

>> No.19582861

>>19582738
I'm a fucking retard.

>> No.19582862

>>19582818

Could do worse/10.

>> No.19582864

>>19582665
What I'm proposing is basically the same thing as what leveraged ETFs do, which we already know are hugely successful during bull markets and fail hard during bear markets. Theta decay doesn't change the premise, it just adjusts the calculation - eg how much you should reasonably hold in cash to prevent your whole portfolio going to zero when the market finally turn and preventing you from continuing the strategy.

The point is that if the market is in a bull run, why not make the most of it? If you actually lose money on a 2week SPY trade, especially during the current market, then there has obviously been a serious shift.

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>>19582851
my friend on discord lives in korea as a english teacher but i feel sad cuz he obviously has to go to work prety often and wage cuck

i like sake i never tried soju but i would like to give it a sip

>> No.19582878

Oh, somebody mentioned another possible hidden reason on why they decided to censor bilibili's 33-chan and 22-chan now. Because 3+3=6 and 2+2=4

>> No.19582883

I don't really care about the exact amount of money I have. Long as I got enough there to cover my expenses when I retire plus a bit more for "fun" and "shit happens" deals I'll be happy. Which thanks to avoiding debt traps and living in a low col state my yearly expenses are low as hell.

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>>19582851
I drink 3 double shot texas teas, so that's 5 shots, 3 days a week...

At 15 shots a week, I out drink the roof top koreans. Nice data.

>> No.19582904

>>19582738
I just started. no bully

>> No.19582907

When we selling oil?

>> No.19582912

>>19582738
Because I'm stupid and too careful.

>> No.19582924

Which oil pick is best to enter in right now? Looking for something cheap as I have only a couple Hundo

>> No.19582929

>>19582819
Its actually half a larp. Ive been transferring out over time so really im only up 100%. Played a more eclectic game getting back to break even, following memes like PLAY, but losing money on REITS and biotech and all that. The big gains are mainly from SPXL and COF calls, with a bit of FAS, DPST, and WFC mixed in. Occasionally still meme-chase though, made a little on SSL; gonne try IVR and see what happens by July. Hell, I made 20k on SPXL calls Friday, which is nice. Couldve been 30, but i saw the gains and sold at 930AM sharp with no regrets.

>> No.19582933

Any LTM anons?

>> No.19582935

>>19582878
>Because 3+3=6 and 2+2=4
And why is that a bad thing?

Is it possible it’s just because they’re cute and easily sexualized?

>> No.19582945

>>19582935
6.4 = June Fourth = Tiananmen

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>>19582818
meme/10. except AIG, which looks like you were a bit late, but it's not bad. How long will you hold it? I don't like the idea of holding P&C insurers for the short term.

>>19582869
Soju creeps up on you if you're drinking socially. It's only as strong as a heavy wine, but it rolls in one punch. if you have pretty girls with you, make sure to leave western drinking culture behind, because the beer will keep flowing, make sure to pace yourself diligently (not that too much shit goes bad in Korea, it's so safe).

>>19582890
It's skewed upward because Soju is like heavy wine, so divide that total by about three for alcohol consumption, kek. You're smacking your liver much, much harder.

>> No.19582951

>>19582907
End of the year

>>19582924
SSL

>>19582933
They're going bankrupt just buy SKYW

>> No.19582952

>>19582945
Oooooooooo
I Would never have figured that out. I guess it’s possible.

>> No.19582954

>>19582907
I'm considering an hour after open.

>> No.19582957

>>19582851
Do people drink soju plain? I've only ever seen it in Chu-hi's.

>> No.19582959

>>19582924
OXY

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>futures green again

>> No.19582966

>>19582845
>NKLA
If you are in the green, you better start selling.

>> No.19582967

>>19582620
Everyone's returning to work. PANW was great for their earnings report, but anyone in anything that remotely smells like telework is going to wind down.
>>19582625
>Nelson Peltz
Isn't that the colossal faggot who fought PG's board to get on and then caused Gillette's toxic masculinity and body positivity ads?

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>>19582890
Im 1.75 liter of Gin every 3 days

>> No.19582980

>>19582966
Its most obvious scam on market

>> No.19582987

>>19582950
Long term hold, up about 40 percent on my account so far.

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>>19582950
I used to drink more when I was in college a while ago.

This just takes the edge off on the weekend.

My liver is like a cat, it has 9 lives and a 9 inch cock.

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>>19582781
>How many KO shares you got?
KO is about 25% of my portfolio right now. Maybe slightly more. I consider it the safest position I currently hold.

>> No.19583002

>>19582837
that doesnt mean anything. see hertz

>> No.19583005

>>19582818
I hate Halliburton for all the evil Dick Cheney Iraq War shit but I kinda regret not buying them sub 10$. Should I get over my objections and just get money?

>> No.19583010

>>19583002
You are not a smart person, are you?

>> No.19583012

>>19582924
Short term Shell calls probably.

>> No.19583017

BOBO ARE YOU OKAY!
ARE YOU OKAY BOBO!

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>>19582950
i dont ever intend on getting super drunk ever

alcohol makes me sick and throwing up in the bath tub for 7 hours straight

my drinking will be extremely moderate

i can get a headache from like 2 beers

im a wine taster andy

im gonna sip my single glass of something or 2 glasses of wine

thats like the max

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Will I make it tomorrow bros? I had $750 in my account a month ago, I wanna be rich

>> No.19583031

>>19582951
Thank you. What about Gush? I was thinking about getting a couple shares of Gush? I don’t even understand what it is X2 BULL?

>> No.19583034

>>19583005
My boomer dad got in at 6 and reccomended me but i only got in around 11. I think it still has a way to go, dont let the bears trick you anon.

>> No.19583042

>>19583005
Why are you letting emotions guiding you over Making money? Bad idea.

>> No.19583043

>>19583005
Only buy stocks of companies you hate. That's the Dao of the Market.

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>>19582979
Wew! Now that's hitting the sauce with determination.

>> No.19583050

>>19582907
Guys seriously. whats going on with Oil? Because my GUSH gains are ridiculous this week and I was hoping to just let them ride.

What makes you all so sure oil will tank this week?

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>>19583050
gush that pussy water out on the floor baby

dude just keep it forever

if ur not iron hands then ur in the wrong job buddy

>> No.19583066

>>19583010
no

>> No.19583071

>>19583050
Who cares if it tanks this week? Saudis are still fucking around with supply so prices will fluctuate but overall stocks will continue to get back toward their pre-corona trend lines through the summer. Red this week just means buy more

>> No.19583078

>>19583031
Big bull.

>> No.19583079

>>19582987
>40%
ah, that was daily. I hopped in at about 24 and dropped out at 32. It bounced up really hard with financials and I quit it. Thinking I shouldn't have. what do you think might be a good re-entry? I'm watching a few brokers as well. AIG, AFG, VRSK, CB, ERIE, and BRO for my insurance watchlist

>>19582957
you can get the bitchmade flavored stuff. I regularly did shots with natives over there. My favorite is still somek. It's like 5/8 beer, 3/8 soju. it mixes well enough.

>>19583018
You might want to shoot for Japan then, but if you want some more hair on your chest because college or whatever's happened to you doesn't seem to have done it, Korea is the better choice (and a little more budget friendly for a fuller experience). It's especially fun for heavier drinking.

>> No.19583082

>>19583031
Look at SPY and SSO for an example. SPY goes up 2%, SSO goes up 4%. Same with down tho. Better gains in a bull run, but can decay over time. If both are say, $10 a share, and SPY goes down 20%, then back up 25%, it'll go 10->8->10, but SSO would do 40% and 50% and go 10->6->9. Leveraged ETFS are great for explosive gains but suck long term.

>> No.19583086

>>19583005
Green is green. You can't control what the company does but you sure can profit from it. RTX, it can be claimed is an evil company for making weapons. But is that gonna stop me from owning stock and getting divvy payments till hell freezes over? Hell no. Cause there will always be terrorist fucktards who deserve a missile up the ass.

>> No.19583088

>>19583063
I got enough i
being iron hands when gush pumped twice then dumped twice as hard twice.

But come to think of it, this latest pump made up for both those times. Also the divvy is looking good and oil seems to be recovering nicely. Im thinking hard about just hodling.

>> No.19583089

>>19583050
Oil is not tanking. People that got annoyed by oil being years long are shilling. Hold through summer and then play at your risk

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>>19583050
>What makes you all so sure oil will tank this week?
No technical indication of a short term reversal in oil at the moment. I guess people just think it ought go down some because it's up a lot pretty fast.

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>another green day

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Anyone looking at MITT? Feels like another potential SSL-like play for the mid-long term

>> No.19583121

>>19583106
Tomorrow's thread theme:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1PK2R0IwCiYb

>> No.19583129

>>19583050
because we had a sharp rise on friday? why does everyone expect this shit to pump like BTC back in 2017 especially when the end of extension cuts are around the corner?

>> No.19583131

Whats the deal with NIO? I took healthy profits on it but missed a yuge pump that couldve netted triple. Now it looks to be going back down. Any idea if its up or down tomorrow?

>> No.19583132

Fuck zoom

>> No.19583140

JD said on their Hong Kong secondary IPO document that they could be delisted from Nasdaq
https://finance.sina.cn/hkstock/xgdt/2020-06-08/detail-iircuyvi7317489.d.html?from=wap

>> No.19583143

>>19583131
Never ever fuck with China stocks. I have learned my lesson many times.

>> No.19583146

>>19583098
it should be treated like banks. the short term rise to $40 has no explanation other than hopes or inclinations that demand will return to levels that are over the break even points for us producers so they can stay solvent long enough for oil to return to higher prices. the dumb part of this logic is that production cuts have no incentives at all unless they're getting a huge subsidy. These oil producers are going to pump out as much as they can to make a profit and it's it's going to fuck them over until there's a big surge in demand, which would likely only be done via a very hot war. They're going to be red for a while and need to be able to survive it somehow. There's a ton of risk to going long on oil. Much more risk than the big banks.

>> No.19583148

Come to me oh fat green bag. Let DAL hit 40 or 45 this week so that I can at last put the finishing touching on amassing a year's salary in the bank. Then I'll roll that fat bag into a slumping tech stock and sell it on the rebound to fatten oh baggie up even more.

>> No.19583149

>bears expect monday to be a red day when Jerome is doing DOUBLE his normal QE at 8.30

Lmao

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>>19583079
im going to thailand in july

i can actually afford that

japan is like 10x more expensive

but i would like to go to japan or korea too. some day

my money is all i got i dont produce money im a neet

>> No.19583167

>>19583155
Japan is surprisingly cheap, anon. I go yearly.

>> No.19583175

>>19583155
Are you going to Thailand for ladyboys or for cunny?

>> No.19583176

>>19583131
Chinese stocks are ADRs, which means they're hosted by black-box shell companies that claim to represent the assets of their parent Chinese companies. This is because Chinese govt doesn't want foreigners owning Chinese equity.
So not only do you have the crazy 'China Hustle' pump and dumps with severely exaggerated good news, but these companies and their shells are completely unaudited by US regulators.

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I added 28k into TQQQ on Thursday. Green weeks are still ahead, boys. You think a pandemic and riots are bad news? Think again. Stocks. Only. Go. Up.

>> No.19583186

>>19583146
>there's no demand for oil
bruhah have you been outside lately? People have been driving around like mad since March, they can't stand being cooped up inside for more than 24 hours

>> No.19583192

>>19583181
I added 17k to my money market account over the last month or so.
You bulls are going to get fucked so hard.

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>>19583146
>NOOOO THE SATELLITES ARE LYING THERE IS NO DEMAND FOR OIL

It's crazy hour I see. Time to go to sleep for me I guess.

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>>19583146
Lot of people here have no understanding of risk management. Many of you just made some good money the past month. Now you have to learn how to keep it.

Here is an example.
I think the big banks have room to go up. Citi is around $60 and has a 52wk high of $80. Now the stock may go down or may go up, but I think it will go back close to $80. I just don't know when. So I bought shares of stock. If the stock goes down I don't care because I don't have a problem holding for two months and getting the dividend. Also if it goes down a lot I'll buy options because I think it is temporary.

This is risk management. I think the trendline is good, but I don't know when. This implies I should buy the stock and if it goes down I still get the dividend and can perma hold for a long time. At the current price level options are too risky.

>> No.19583211

>>19583181
I added to tqqq fri after rotation out of reopen positions. Expecting to hold through q1 2020 easily

>> No.19583221

>>19581835


Yes, please do brother. Seriously my quality of life has gone way up since becoming a Christian.

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>>19583175
cunny is illegal and will make u burn in hell for eternity

>>19583167
it depends what oil does

its atleast double for hotel prices in tokyo than in SEA

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>>19582989
>>19582979
You faggots have no clue how shitty you are making your own life. It's actually pretty hilarious to watch you guys poison yourselves on the toxic jew brew.

>> No.19583231

What do we think of MVIS? looking for an IT cheapy

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>>19583155
Get ready for sweat a LOT. if your father hasn't said it, try to not catch any bugs. also, get out of oil futures if you're trading those, etf or otherwise. at least roll back to like CVX or XOM or RDS.B

>>19583167
I like how cheap you can do Japan, but i feel like you need money to really experience japan.

>>19583186
>>19583201
I didn't say there is no demand. I said:
>hopes or inclinations that demand will return to levels that are over the break even points
Let me correct myself
>hopes or inclinations that demand will return to levels that push prices over the break even points
this kind of reaction makes me think you guys are going to get rekt.

>>19583205
I like C a lot. I went with PSK and preferreds for JPM, C, and PNC instead of purely common. I have a strong feeling they won't go tits up, divvies will not be cut or interrupted, but I also think there is a fair amount of downside to the common share prices.

>> No.19583238

opinions on NRGU?

>> No.19583244

>>19583211
What?
There is so much wrong with this that I'm either reading it wrong or the poster is really dumb. At the very least it can't be Q1.

>> No.19583249

>>19583221
https://youtu.be/axXX3BC-6fc

>> No.19583261

>>19583244
I mean through 2021. Im in tqqq for the long haul. Barring needing to dodge some unseen shock.

>> No.19583284

>>19581761
FANG, PVAC, XES

>> No.19583288

>>19583167
>>19583237
Isn’t Tokyo one of the most expensive cities in the world though? So I assume you’re limiting your time there and spending more time in more rural areas?

>>19583237
>>19583205
I don’t know what’s good about C. I just bought WFC calls because I think they were priced lower because of oil debt, so they should improve as the price of oil does, and banks should do well during the early stages of the expansion

>> No.19583300

>>19583261
I thought so.
Listen I'm going to be nice but I should be calling you names. You can't hold a leveraged trading product like TQQQ long term. They are used for short term trading and the price decays because of how the leverage works on the product. Don't believe me though. Look it up yourself before you lose bank.

>> No.19583318

>>19583288
What strike on WFC? 7/17 40c is what I was just looking at

>> No.19583321

>>19582845
NKLA makes TSLA valuations seem conservative. I averaged $11 on VTIQ and have sold most when it broke 30. When the fomo wears off pick it up for <15

>> No.19583330

>>19583300
I know the prospectus..

>> No.19583331

>>19583288
Well the fundamentals are better on C, it has less scandals, and wfc was closer to their 52wk high. Oh also citi I think has a higher dividend. Is that enough reasons....lol

>> No.19583337

>>19582351
Not my mom shes is coming up

>> No.19583338

>>19583300
DCAing into TQQQ over the long term gives much better returns than SPY over the long haul. even accounting for crashes. It's fine to hold. Better to have a strategy for better risk adjusted returns but isn't necessary if you consistently invest into it and can stomach the downturns.

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>>19583300
Why?

>> No.19583351

>>19583330
Do you understand it though?

It is like putting $10 in the market and the market is crabbing, but you still lose a $1. Then of course down or up is leveraged. So your gains and losses are multiplied. It is like black jack where the house has an enormous advantage.

>> No.19583358

>>19583228
Im immortal, I dont get poisoned

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>>19583237
i lived in south florida and then the desert of las vegas

ive been through some swampy ass hot shit

thanks for watching out for me though

>get out of oil futures if you're trading those

this is my one trick pony though im all in

>> No.19583366

>>19583261
>unseen shock
we got a preview in Q4 repo and Q1 march. I don't know what will happen to QQQ if a lot of the companies have thinner margins and need to keep tapping credit. I would watch Treasuries very closely.

>>19583288
>Tokyo one of the most expensive cities in the world though?
yes, it can be really expensive, hence the
>i feel like you need money to really experience japan
but you can go for shitty hostels and airbnbs and eat "junk food," which is astonishingly good, for cheap.
>banks should do well during the early stages of the expansion
I think it's very, very early to be in banks, but my timer seems to have gotten of whack. C has good books and good buzz.

>> No.19583373

>>19583341
Look at my other posts.

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>>19583363
are you the guy that went all in on the 16x leveraged WTI futures?
feel like i saw that here

>> No.19583385

>>19583358
Immortality doesn't make you immune from poison. You are thinking invulnerable.

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>>19583378
im like the mini version of that guy

i have way less than him but still all in

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>>19583363
>this is my one trick pony though im all in
if you're a fucking neet, you shouldn't be gambling on oil fucking futures on fucking MARGIN. Take profits quickly. run don't walk.

>> No.19583393

>>19583387
same contract? 16x?

>> No.19583400

>>19583379
And by this year do you mean the past month?

I'm tired of explaining why holding until 2021 is foolish. You do as you please.

>> No.19583401

>>19583318
$32 6/17
Thoughts? I’m a complete amateur at options, I just bought it near the close because it was low cost with a fairly good probability of going in the money next week.

>> No.19583403

>>19583387
Some of the best rts pros mastered rushing and cheese first

>> No.19583412

>>19583373
Look at the graph. I'm not buying TQQQ myself but if you held from 2011 you would make 10x the money than holding QQQ. This doesn't look like a natural gas leveraged ETF to me.

>> No.19583423

>>19583400
I didnt hold any until march... Bought into them on dip. Not Core of portfolio

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>>19583393
no thats some european shit

i just have uco 1k shares

all my neetbux '

and i made a lot on the airlines too

>>19583392
its fine dood

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DO I PLACE ORDERS NOW OR WAIT TO SEE IF IT DIPS LOWER IN THE MORNING

>> No.19583465

>>19583450
Buy yourself some peace of mind you don’t need that right in the morning

>> No.19583466

I'm stoked about the opening bell tomorrow. It's a strange lifestyle, trading. Very strange.

>> No.19583468

>>19583401
Be very careful with the cost of the option.

Say X is trading at $50

Call one
$45 aug 1st trading at $5.50
Call two
$50 Aug 1st trading at $0.70

The second option costs a lot more.

>> No.19583474

>>19583450
Just wait fagget.

>> No.19583480

>>19583401
Yea the premiums seem well priced and banks have been doing good so probably a good position. Just take profit when you're decently up. Don't get greedy.

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>>19583385
we are the immortals

>> No.19583486

God I hope DAL flies higher monday..

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>>19583412
>2008 - 2020 has huge debt/credit expansion
>share prices rocketing off on cheap delicious debt and buybacks
>these don't even need to be zombie corps, it's literally anyone
>indexes are weighted market caps of components
>they moon incredibly and the leverage performance trackers TQQQ/SSO/SPXL go ballistic
I think TQQQ has a poor profile for investing and retirement savings.

>>19583424
Until it isn't. I've done my part.

>> No.19583500

>>19583468
Yes but there is a logarithmic factor when going deeper ITM that could make call one more profitable depending on the expected underlying future price.

>> No.19583533

>>19583500
I'm not talking future value. I'm talking present value. I see this all the time in options and I'm only been really actively trading options for 2 months. People see a smaller cost and think it is cheaper. In that case the option costs 40% more.

>> No.19583545

Anyone knows good nutstocks?
Looking for something like a nut Orchard reit or a company that produces unprocessed nuts

>> No.19583546

>>19583491
>I think TQQQ has a poor profile for investing and retirement savings.
Making 10x the money first and then putting it into high dividend value stocks seems like a good idea. Again, I wouldn't buy TQQQ right now to hold forever. I'm just saying buying a leveraged ETF to hold for even a decade doesn't *always* lead to bad results.

>> No.19583553

>>19583385
>Immortal
>Root word mortal means able to die
>prefix im- creates an antonyn to the root word (shortcut is to read it as "not...")
>litterally means 'not able to die'
I suppose in theory it could harm u without killing you. But obviously if you cannot die, you cannot die from poison.

>> No.19583562

>>19583533
I understand. My point is that call one is more expensive because it behaves in a way that could be favorable.

>> No.19583577

>>19583545
No but I give you gold star for asking a question I have never seen asked before.

>> No.19583594

>>19581749
Someone please define futures for me it's not in the pastebin

>> No.19583597

New
>>19583592

>>19583592

>>19583592

>> No.19583605

>>19583546
correct, but I'm outlining the specific factors that led to good results. The reasoning for this to happen again into Q1 2021 is just kinda silly. Sure it can happen, but i wouldn't put bets on it.
>inb4 some other anon: but anon, it already hit ATH dummy...
so that means the performance trackers keep going up?
>TINA!
bullshit and you should know it already.

>> No.19583613

>>19583553
There are many kinds of death. Most practical use of the word immortal traces back to the Greek God's. In that case there are many examples of the Gods that have lose of limb or other permanent injury.

Immortality in the modern form means you can't die of old age. Invulnerable is also questionable. To me being able to sit on a star like our sun without any damage makes you invulnerable. But there are reactors hotter than the sun on Earth.

>> No.19583618

>>19583594
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/futuresmarket.asp

>> No.19583650

>>19583577
Nuts are a great snack, everyone digs them
They taste good, dont go bad and are a healthy natural product
Also they are high value, will be even more so in the future, demand is rising over the last few years, trees need time to grow and a good spot
Vegans n stuff dig nuts, but not only them

>> No.19583690

>>19583300
SOXL was 20 dollars in 2015 now its 194

>> No.19583812

>>19583533
I usually look IV
What do you mean by 40% more expensive?

>>19583500
The ITM options always look like less reward to me. They can’t go to 0 unless the stock price collapses, but they don’t get that potential jump in price when the slightly OTM option is suddenly ITM.

What’s the logarithmic function?

>> No.19583841

>>19583288
If you airbnb you can get a room for $15 a night. You can eat good food for $20 a day. Most expensive part of the trip is a rail pass.

>> No.19583845

>>19581965
Ruger

>> No.19583880

>>19583484
Jesus Christ he's got to be unbelievably hammered 24/7.