/biz/ - Business & Finance

BLDP, FCEL: Tied in with PLUG.

Anyone do some ASX trading?

Change your bluechip to Telstra, I have reason to believe (not quite inside trading, but as close as you can get without illegality creeping in) that they're going to do well in the coming months.

Otherwise, the only other opportunity in Australia is gold. Insurance came and went, no one saw it coming, no one saw it going, only a handful of investors likely profited. Fracking/shale is still about a year away, so don't get your hopes up for that either.

CANN:

This company, while it did increase in value recently, did go down a couple of days later, most likely from a reporting error. However, with the legalization of marijuana, this company may have potential to plant the seeds for further growth: it has signed some leases for Pueblo growers recently to allow for marijuana growth. As people are trying to find ways to grow marijuana legally, this company may provide the means to do so.

AIR:

There is debate over how well the aerospace sector is, but AIR has shown that, while you may not be directly involved with flight, it doesn't mean you can still get involved. This company produces aerospace products for many companies that utilize flight. Travel and transportation services are still demanded everywhere and this company is directly supplying this need. With time, this company may prove to be a key player in the aerospace industry.

WFC:

Warren Buffett likes this stock a lot for multiple reasons: good dividend amount, growth, and undervalued. This bank has been doing well in the financial industry despite the economic scenario the nation is undergoing. With positive financial strength and a good history of returns, this company may be something to look into for the long run.

PLUG is just a bubble.

>>194763
Extrapolate.

>>194733
Why CANN?

And not CANV? CBIS? ERBB?

Really not sure whether to enter into PLUG or not between next week and the ER?.

>>194774
>PLUG

PLUG $325.00 by year-end. I fit an exponential curve to this new trend, and it's going to the moon baby!

>>194779
Ignore him, pick the one that seems the most reputable, look at ERs and stuff.

>>194786
>it's going to the moon baby!
No, idiot, sell when it tables for about a week.

>>194786
That's the highest speculation I've read yet. Most people are around the $100 mark.

>>194779
I was thinking CANN, because while marijuana will be in demand, the land leases will allow the company some flexibility to lease it for other purposes depending on the market's demands. Other cannabis companies, including CBIS, have potential. However, it is hard to say what will occur with the companies as they have started producing and their financials are not completely stable yet.

In other words, while marijuana has potential, these start-up companies are still speculative.

FREE:

While it is close to free, this company has potential to boost its value after having undergoing a downward spiral for years. This company specializes in moving material across oceans. It has slowly began to get its financials back in order, especially after selling one of its older ships. While it is not known where this will go, there is some potential if the Russian conflict in Ukraine escalates and the need for raw materials increase across continents.

MSP

Madison Strategic Sector Premium Fund

Q1 report March 5th. $0.26/share dividend for current share holders. Closed yesterday at $12.37 (-0.56%).

The fund intends to pursue their objectives by investing in a portfolio of common stocks and utilizing an option strategy, primarily by writing (selling) covered call options on a substantial portion of the common stocks in their portfolios in order to generate current income and gains from option writing premiums and, to a lesser extent, from dividends. Market action can impact dividend issuance as significant decreases or increases in the funds' total assets affect the funds' future dividend prospects. Madison Asset Management, LLC (Madison), a subsidiary of Madison Investment Holdings, Inc., is the funds' investment adviser. Its affiliates include Madison Investment Advisors, LLC, with which it shares all resources at Madison, Wisconsin headquarters, Concord Asset Management, LLC, Chicago, Illinois and NorthRoad Capital Management LLC, New York City.

Does anyone have information on $HYSR? I've seen it mentioned here and there. I've tried doing some research, but I haven't found anything substantial.

Is the EBR bro in here?

Should I put more in or is it all over?

>>194817
That means you shouldn't go anywhere near it.

>buy amd
>selling at 3:45 pm on day or er

enjoy 50-80 cent profit per share.. Ive done this the last 3 er's. My first entry was at $2.47 a shar

>>194905
Don't you get hit with shortterm capital gains for not hanging onto it longer than a year? Whats your profits like to warrant selling a stock 3-4x a year?

>>194905
>selling at 3:45 pm on day or er
wat?

>>194792
its being pumped and dumped.

>>194720
I expect RUSS to continue upward trend as Russian economy gets fucking wrekt as Putin can't back out of Ukraine bs and europe sanctions him.

I have a question about buying large amount of shares and then trying to sell them.

Say I buy 5,000 shares. When I place an order to sell, will it only sell if there is a buyer on the market with a bid for 5,000 shares or would for example, it'd split into different buyers say sold to 5 different buyers 1,000 shares each? Or would the company buy it back? I have no idea how selling works. I am an Engineering student and pitched FCEL and PLUG to my Grandparents. They are pretty wealthy and want to buy 5,000 shares in each, but would they get stuck with the stock if somebody else isn't wanting to buy shares that large?

>>195291

'Selling' is done on secondary markets, AKA independently of the company. The company is not on the other end buying your shares, it's just other investors buying or selling.

Sales are executed based on price (that you set), not on lot size. Your 5000 shares can be sold to multiple buyers provided they are buying at that price.

And the # of shares can be arbitrary, it probably wouldn't be divided up evenly into 1000 share blocks like you described. The shares would maybe sell to a guy looking for 2,400, a guy looking for 339, another looking for 1,250, another looking for 1000, and the last 11 would go to somebody else. It's very common that it's broken up into many many different little sales especially when you're dealing with large numbers.

That's why when you see a big boy hit the sell button and dump, say, 100k shares, there's a big red line drawn on the chart as his buy 'eats up' all the smaller orders until the full 100k is sold. (This example is assuming he sold them all at once at 'market order' instead of a 'limit order')

>but would they get stuck with the stock if somebody else isn't wanting to buy shares that large?

This is a very big problem with low liquidity stocks (low trading volume), and something you should consider. If there aren't enough buyers at a certain price point, you will either tank the market as your sale executes down the list of willing buyers, or you will have to wait and offload the shares a little at a time as buyers place their bids.

If that wasn't clear I'd be happy to explain more.

>>195291
>>195339

Also, just my $.02, I don't think 5000 shares of PLUG or FCEL is big enough to warrant that concern. You would need to be holding much, much more to run into liquidity/volume issues.

>>194730
Want to clarify on the Telstra?

Telstra seems quite high right now like most of the blue chip ASX stocks

>>194761

I own a small amount of this and I heard that it is one of the better banks around. I mostly bought it because I wanted a bank stock and heard Buffet owns it. I have a very small amount

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=jcp
what do you guys think of penneys? you think it is a possible good investment?
they jumped from 5 to 8 a few weeks ago

>>195370
Are you talking about JC Penney?

While we're talking about Warren Buffet, anyone own BRK.B?

I bought 2 shares back when it was a steal in 2008 and it split 50:1 so I have 100 now. I'm up damn near 80% now but I feel like the ride might be over.

>>195370
>JC Penney
In the Southeast corner of my office in the same pile as Sears.

>>195373
What was the equivalent price you bought them at?

I was thinking about buying a small amount but they haven't moved much from 110-115 the past year or so. I think there might be better ones to buy for short and longer term

>>195371
yes sir

>>195380
I don't know much about it but I didn't buy any because it was going down so hard. Are there stores starting to make money yet or still losing money?

It could be one of those things in 5 years where you think that it was a real steal to buy at these levels. Like when Apple was about to go bankrupt in the 80's or whatever. Or the company could continue to do shit and you'd lose money

I prefer to put my risk money elsewhere

>>195378
According to my very lazy math about $70/share

>>195390
Some nice gains there, but you bought in 08 and the market has done well since then. You probably could have bought almost anything back then and made nice gains on those too. I've only been buying since last year, so I sometimes wonder how much more the bull market has in it

Or if there will be a bear market soon and those often last for years

>>195388
I believe some are. they closed 23 stores so that will help to.

>>195393
Well I remember last time I looked they were still losing money, but not as much as they were meant to, so the shares went up a bit. That shit is too risky for me since I know nothing about the company

I place my risk money into biotech, where I also know little about the companies, but they seem to shoot up a lot

>>195397
Im curious to see if the company will live long enough.

>>195392
Thanks. And yea, 2008 was a magical year for anyone not about to retire. Apple at $80 a share, Google at $300, to name a few of my highway robbery purchases. But I had very little investment capital back then so I'm sadly not a millionaire. But man if I could buy back then like I can now...

>>195400
>Apple at $80 a share, Google at $300
I bought APPL for about 500 and GOOG for about 900

Fucking crazy shit in 5 years. I lost a bit of money in the GFC on shares so got really scared about buying after that. If only I decided to buy shares in 08 after the crash. It was the timing

>>195407
Just so you don't feel too bad, I also lost big with a company called Apex Silvermines (the pinkslipped), AIG and C. The latter reverse split, so even at the cheap price I acquired them at I lost big.

Hindsight, etc.

>>195367
>Want to clarify on the Telstra?
I know people who work at Telstra, they told me to buy with a shiteating grin. Also, I overheard one of them talking about some deal with Foxtel.

I haven't been told enough to be definite, which would be insider trading, but I've been told it's a good idea.

>>195413
What did you buy AIG at? I was looking at the chart last year and it said it was at 1,400 at one point before the GFC. Now it's at 50? Is that real?

That's like a 95% loss

>>195417
WHat do you think of the other telcos? I have had MTU and iinet and TPG on my watch list but they are so expensive right now. I'm not sure if we are buying at the peak of the bull market

But if you think Telstra has room to move I might buy some and sell when it goes up. Do you roughly know when this is happening?

>>195421
MTU was suggested in not this weekend business section but last weekend business section, and then they fucking went down in the week. I have a feeling it's a good time to buy MTU after labour day, surely they can't go down any further, right.

>Do you roughly know when this is happening?
Nope.

I'm too busy profiting from NCM to really care, to be honest. Kind of wish I bought NST instead actually, they seem like a better company.

>>195419
250 shares at $1.40/share. I think when it reverse-split I was left with 26 shares.

>>195421

>buying telstra shares now

not a bubble :^)

>>195429
>surely they can't go down any further, right
This is what I thought when I bought Newcrest. I think I bought at 12 and then it slid under 10. I got out before that happened though. Also I made a bigger loss on SRX when it slid recently

Anything on your watch list as of right now besides Telstra?

I'm going to have to sell some shares if I want to buy Telstra because I don't have the money for it now

>>195435
That's a 10 year chart though. Show any blue chip stock in the same time and it will show roughly the same chart

>>195438
>Anything on your watch list as of right now besides Telstra?
I did have FMG, but they already went up.

I think BHP and Rio might recover, but they won't make amazing gains.

>>195439
>Show any blue chip stock in the same time and it will show roughly the same chart

Yeah...

No

>>195443
You like the mining companies it seems. I haven't had money in mining companies since pre GFC

I find it hard to pick ASX companies for some reason. My ASX shares haven't done too well

>>195449
>You like the mining companies it seems
Nothing else in Australia has any real gains.

I used to have most my stock in financial and banks and stuff, but then everything went down and looking back, it still hasn't recovered. Interestingly, I still got dividends from those shares, so I was only down 0.5% instead of 2%.

>>195451
I thought banking has done very well since 08. Look at the major 4 banks, especially CBA. Probably could have doubled your money if you put it in after the GFC

>>195443
Looking back at the prices, FMG and Rio might have promise this week.

>>195454
Are you talking about short term trades or do you like to keep for longer? Short term is hard as fuck to read and we might as well be gambling sometimes

Sometimes I buy stocks randomly based on thinking they are low. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't

>>195460
>Short term is hard as fuck to read and we might as well be gambling sometimes
FMG, BHP and Rio were upgraded to a "strong buy" iirc by a few stocks and shares authorities. I'm not just gambling, I know they're low because of the low iron price and I know that the price of iron is starting to rise, and so should these shares.

And you can see where shares hit a "low" and then start coming back up, this works most of the time.

You know, I expected the people here to trade pennies for some reason. Anyway, I do.

EFLN
Last: 0.0007
MkCap:$1mill
Float: 1.2bill(realistically 900mill, however)

Book value a/o Dec 2013: $12.4mill
-Revenue: $400k
-Net profit: $130k
-Assets: $11.9 mill
-Liabilities: $150k


This stock is sitting at literally less than 1/10th its book value. They've allegedly acquired a hotel using restricted shares during Q1. It's suppose to be worth $6mill and generate a net profit of 400k/yr(might have been 400k/quarter). They've bought it from their parent company, EAFN, for $2m. It was more of an asset transfer than a purchase.

All that needs to happen here for EFLN to explode is to have the CE removed. If you trade pennies you know what this is and why it's vital that it's gone. They have said they would be fully reporting by Q1 2014. If that happens they may hit their .008+(.012+ with hotel) book value.

>>195502

Can you explain what the CE is?

>>195502
>
This company looks like the biggest scam ever.' Promises to enter every and any business line (that's just full retard). Everything is so vague you wonder if any of it is real.


>Our future new on-line retail division will handle web design, distribution, marketing, new product development, on-line sales, etc. Once EFLN,s on-line, store is up and running, we anticipate new substantial revenue streams for EFLN.

Yet their website is shit-tier retarted and a 14 year old could do a better job.

>>195542
http://www.efuelefn.com/letter-from-the-president.html

Oh god all those typos, this is full retard.

Why would anyone buy their stock?

hi do u guys think putting a short on Boeing is a good idea after the crash

>>195545
Wouldn't it be better to short airline stocks?

>>194990
er = earnings report

>>194720
/sci/ here: Don't invest in PLUG.

>>195555
that's hilarious

Anybody else jump on the solar train?

I just sold my SUNE

>>195671
remember researching a few solar stocks this time last year but I forgot about it for some reason

what do you think about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgPqTj7dqx8

I came across a couple yesterday that I think will benefit from the move to LED streetlights: AYI and LYTS.

I see these going up everywhere with every new street project. They look nice and operate much cheaper, plus there is still federal money going to these things. Each company is also tied to construction and commercial developments but LYTS also builds scoreboards and other LED and LCD displays.

LYTS went out at 8.20 and is expected to earn .23 in 2014 and .44 in 2015. AYI closed at 143.52 and expectations are 4.18 in 2014 and 5.10 in 2015 but they have been trending higher and have been meeting or beating expectations the last three quarters.

On wich imformation you usually evaluate a stock?
Where do you look for the information?

>>194809
>FREE

Nobody cares about your shitty greek shipping stock

>>194813
>covered calls
>bull market

>195291
>engineering student
>giving investment advise to your grandparents

shiggy diggy doo

>195502
Its trading below book value because of the anticipated dilution in Q1.

>>195545
that plane was old... If anything buy boeing cause the public will be outraged that such a old plane was flying and they need new planes!!!!

>>194957
at MOST short term capital gains is 20% extra...

soo if you can make a good profit like 80 cents off 3$ 3/4 times a year. WHO the FUCK cares. YOU ARE MAKING MONEY...........

PLUG and FCEL still solid buys for the next week? Or am I too late to the party?

I got in on FCEL a bit Friday, but then sold off in the afternoon near the intraday high. Would like to see a bit of a drop & maybe get back in if things are supposed to pick back up.

>>195339

I understand it clearly.

>>196307

>PLUG

You're late to the party.

See 2005 and 2011

>Plug

After its earnings are released it will plummet back down. Should have bought a few weeks ago and then sold on friday.

>>195600
Why not?

>>194792
They didn't properly extrapolate, clearly.

Bump

>>194785
>buying before earnings
Hell no.

>>194957
15% of profits

NRTLQ:

Extremely undervalued manufacturer of electronic equipment for a wide array of customers. Set to skyrocket.

>>197631
Y-you're joking right?

>>195274
Thats what they said about bitcoin

lel

>>197649

Trust me, I'm an insider. There's so much untapped value, it's not even funny.

>>197658
It looks like they're busy going bankrupt or something.

>>197658
What exchange I'm not seeing it.

Anyone thinking about buying stocks this week?

I sold all my plug on friday for a minimal profit. Kicking myself now. Think I should buy more?

>>199371
I would buy more before it hits $10.

Anyone else on the BBRY train? I bought when it was at $7

>>199371
Buy High Sell Low!

>>199447
>2014
>riding trains

Carpooling masterrace reporting. My friend raymond can piss 14 feet.

>tfw narrow urethra

Bought 5,000 HUSA shares at 60 cents. Could of sold at 67 cents but my limit order was at 68. Down to 59 cents. That was unfortunate.

Who here is holding on to their PLUG shares past the earnings report? Who's selling beforehand?

>>199608

Sold them.

>>199608
Holding, IDGAF ive been in since 0.5 its not going back there anytime soon

buy and hold. people have been saying its going to burst since 1.50, 3.00, 4, 5, 7, 8 and now 9 people dont know a shit.

>>197594
why hell no?

National Bank of Greece - NBG
Alpha Bank - ALBKY

I hold both of these ADRs. Long since last summer and in the green on each.
Following the Black Rock stress test results National is surging. Alpha is issuing common shares to raise some capital to satisfy the Troika. Alpha tends to fly under the radar and trend along with National, it's "cousin" in a sense.

David Einhorn of Greenlight Capital disclosed Alpha is one of his fund's top 5 holdings. This implies a minimum investment of $300M USD, very likely more.

Watching for National to break $7 by mid-April and Alpha to continue a flat line before a shareholder vote on raising capital March 28th.

Should I short $PLUG and make out like a bandit when the earnings report comes out?

How low will it go?

>>194720
>TFW best friend got into plug at 3.11 and told me to buy some too.

Literally going to drink bleach

>>201924

HUSA is next PLUG

>>201881

I actually bought these two sometime last year. Nbg at 5.27 and albky at 0.27. Thinking I should spend more on the alkby since its cheap.

>>201928
What makes you think this isn't going to be pump and dumped? I'm genuinely curious. I just bought 1000 shares today so nothing major.

>>201939

Greenlight says they see the current price as 0.5-0.6 book value. I'm not sure if this was prior to or after the report of a capital increase. Either way I'm in long. 5 year minimum for me. Really want to add to my ALBKY too, just not sure what this dilution might do. Like I said before, Alpha trends with National and will likely, in my opinion, rise along with it.

>>201928
>in today at .58
>out today at .53
I seriously hope you guys dont hold HUSA overnight. I might re enter my position tomorrow but im pretty happy with my profit today.


don't get greedy you fucktards... secure your profits.

>>201984
sorry i meant out at .73

How high do pump and dump schemes usually go with penny stocks? Do they usually stay below $1? Do they hit and slightly exceed $1? Or is there really no trend?

>>201881
>>201939
>>201978

From Greenlight Capital.

>>202009
lel rekd

>>201984
HUSA hasn't had any revenues for the past like... 5 quarters. What makes you think that's about to change?

>>201997
Its seemingly random, but generally the more a penny stock is worth the higher it goes.

It all has to do with the %float, market capitalization, volume and a whole bunch of other factors that make it easier or harder to manipulate. If the volume is too low the pumpers can't move enough shares to do anything, if the capitalization is too high the pumpers can't make a meaningful effect.

>>202187
buy rumor sell fact....

i still made 15 cents a share... I'm just warning other to secure a profit or learn the hard way.

What do you guys think about WWE? They have started their WWE online streaming network. The stock has been beat up enough a year ago that it doesn't take too much to exceed expectations here. It's currently at $30. How much more upside?

>>202237
it's at a 10 year high, I think it'll go up a buck or 3 more but then it's going to sit awhile and drop eventually, it's a teeny bit overvalued atm.

>>201928

Is HUSA legit? I saw somebody mention it Sunday night here, and so I bought in this morning at 0.64 and sold out at 0.71.

I see it's been upgraded to a buy according to one article... I might try to pick it up again if I can get a good price tomorrow.

>>202151

I don't understand. Did you read the chart? I think you're implying that earnings are low, when this isn't even the whole way through the quarter...

>>202251
Yeah, they were talking about it today in this thread
>>200877