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uh oh we have 2 threads
pls dont reply frens

>>19535739
Everything is fraudulent.

I dont buy Stonks
I buy things

Who here actually is expecting things to continue being green this year? I was bearish until I saw people continuing to make absolute bank on here the last couple months, now I'm tentatively bullish

feelsgoodman

Peak normie FOMO right here.

>>19535739
How come AMD is the only stock in the red right now, while everything is mooning. I wanted to make atleast a 2% on my 1000$ and i got jewed again.

>>19535739
Does anyone in here have any advice on trading options? How do I get into it? any YouTube videos or books I should read? I've been doing very well in the stock market but I know I could do better in options. But it's a whole different ballgame much less straightforward.

>>19536470
AMD could lose 30% and still be over valued desu

>>19537359
My advice is don't do it.

>>19537359
F for this anon who'll blow up his account

>>19537359
only learn about options if you have money which you can literally throw away and be ok with it
in other words, odn't do it

>>19537359
It's not worth it
If you're feeling the sirens call of twitter screenshots of people have ludicrous gains, you probably arent mature enough to be trading at all
Remember what Wardawg Buffy said: The stock market is a machine that transfers money from the impatient to the patient.

Hold onto your cocks for this EOD pump bros

SSL UNSTOPPABLE SINCE $4

How fucking pissed must China be right now? Literally create a man-made virus to cripple the west and all it did was kill 120k boomers and fat niggers. This was supposed to be worse than 2008 but only lasted two months. This is the power of BRRRRRR

It.. keeps.... rising

The power 4

REFR
MRO
CLF
GRPN

>>19537539
it could go either way tqbh

>>19535739
Why is Walmart my only red stock today? Anyone else hold Walmart stock? I'm thinking of buying more as I feel like my portfolio has a lot of gambles on it and something more stable would be a good idea. Apple seems overpriced at the moment - new all-time high today...

>>19537359
Only use 5 - 10% of your overall portfolio for options trading at any one time.

Go for options that you think have an equal chance of tripling your investment or losing it all. So if I buy a SPY option for $200, I'm either expecting a +$600 gain or a -$200 loss (now, of course, I wouldn't actually lose all 200 dollars since I would have sold for a loss long before it actually plummets to zero). Related to this, you should always have a plan. "If this option goes below 60% of my initial investment, I will sell it for a loss." Something like that.

Start with buying options, don't start with selling them. Personally, I'm against selling options altogether.

>>19537582

SSL
AAL

honorary mentions

(wish i bought some aal options last week)

Today is just more evidence on what a gigantic ponzi scheme the stock market has become.

Let's go VAL, to $1.00. Go go go.

>>19537623
mad bear spotted

>>19537434
>>19537459
>>19537502
>>19537515
Ok this isn't what I expected to hear. Why is it so dangerous? You can buy a call or a put and only risk the value with unlimited (theoretical) upside. And what about iron condors and all that? I mean really though if you think the market is going in a certain direction, aren't options the best way to capitalize on it?

Be honest, why didn't you buy the dip back in march?

>>19537655
I'm not psychic

>>19537655
I did and I wish I had bought more.

300 shares XOM @ >8% div yield. Even without the dividends I'm up over 30%

>>19537655
i bought $500 worth as a test that day planning to buy more in the next two days, then everything rose 15% in one day and i thought jpows money printing was a scam that will have to fail sooner or later and buffet selling his shit scared me off because he has to be more experienced than I am
still sitting on a mound of cash like the stubborn fuck I am

>>19537605
Ok, where did you learn all the Greeks? How do you decide what time horizon to buy? There's a lot to decide in options, any YouTube video that does a good job? Every book on Amazon has tons of negative reviews calling them shit. I can't find a good resource that really breaks it down in a way that makes sense. The Greeks seem sort of arbitrary, as does the equation governing them. I agree on only buying (at just in my case) I have no plans to sell options.

>>19537655
I bought CCL at $8/share and am still hodling unironically. I told others to do so and got called a shill retard etc so I have

>>19537718

>not psychic
>needing psyche to know stocks only go up

>>19537781
-so I gave up on giving advice here. No one listens to me but I try to learn from other anons when I can.

>>19537582
When do you plan on selling? Where is the top??

hold mgm over the weekend?

>>19537651
Yeah on paper you're right, but trying to time the market is ALWAYS harder than you think it will be. Yes, obviously people get lucky and some people even consistently get lucky, but its pretty damn far from a sure thing. Because options are decaying assets, it's not like each option play you make has a 50-50 chance of success either, in most cases the volatility is already priced in so even when you do come out on top, it's less money then you might expect.
I'd encourage you to play around with an option calculator to get a sense of how risky it can be, compared to how the rewarding it potentially is.
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com/calculator/long-call.html

>>19537759
googling that shit + actually playing the market and learning as I go along

>>19537848
Ok I'll play around with it more. I actually messed with this exact calculator a few weeks ago and that was the main reason I decided not to try options. But I keep seeing people say they are doubling their money every two weeks or every month and they'll be millionaires in a few weeks off of a few thousand dollars initial investment. That's not even my goal, I'm not that impatient or ambitious, I just think the market is clearly going upwards this bull run is only just getting started in my opinion. But the options calculator does make the profit seem a lot smaller in reality. And your point about volatility being priced in is well taken...

>>19537781
I bought at $16 and sold at $12, great time to be alive! It was my 1st experience with stocks, so of course it was retarded.

How far will SSL go before peaking?

>>19537920
Brave man. Are you net up on options since you began? Whenever I begin something new I usually lose my ass several times in the learning phase. That's what scares me about them.

>>19537939
Sorry anon. But for your first trade that's not that horrible. Many years ago I lost everything in pennies as a young idiot. Cost of tuition as they say.

>>19537781
I told my friend to buy CCL and he made about 2k off of it

>>19537976
>Are you net up on options since you began?
Yea, by a lot. I would need like two years of nonstop losses to destroy all the gains I made these last three months options trading alone based on how I trade.

>>19535989
I'm bullish too, but that's a bad sign

>>19537976
>Whenever I begin something new I usually lose my ass several times in the learning phase. That's what scares me about them.

I lost some money doing options when I first began (I think part of my success comes from the fact I did not have beginner's luck and got fucked hard immediately). If it really scares you, just do paper trading to start off with.

>>19538052
Oh ok nice. What do you trade? SPY? I can't decide what I would even want to buy in this bull run. Optioning individual stocks feels pretty risky but I guess it's cheaper?

>>19537359
Word of advice
Go to your mom and explain it to her.
Don't use books, don't use materials, just talking
If you find it hard to explain or she is not understanding it, don't use options.

>>19538091
Yea, I pretty much stick to SPY weeklies. Shit's pretty easy to predict and if an option does start to lose money, SPY options have so much volume, its so easy to sell them off before they really plummet. I will sometimes trade individual stocks if I'm really confident in their movement.

>>19537947
$25-$30, EOY. SSL long term hold. Wait till Lake Charles Plant opens in Louisiana. Be patient.

>>19538184
I like this idea. I'll work on it (with my wife but same difference)

>>19538188
Ok. My impression is that most people trade majority SPY in the options world (at least retail traders). I guess that's where I'll cut my teeth if I get brave enough to try it.

>>19538261
>I guess that's where I'll cut my teeth if I get brave enough to try it.

Okay, just don't go broke.

>>19535877
bobo's tears are real

>>19538292
I can't afford to. Not single anymore and have kids. Makes everything take on a whole new complexion when it comes to risk. In any case thanks for the advice.

>>19535921
CLA-RING

>>19538261
>I'll work on it
Yep! Good luck man. Be sure to follow a system and don't invest based on emotion.

>>19535739

>https://youtu.be/YrKMiE9WII0

Bow before me boys, I am making it!

Holding:

>DAL
>UAL
>MAR
>RDSB
>HAL
>SBUX
>BA
>XOM
>DIS
>NET
>V
>WFC
>JPM
>RTX

>>19537623
What's with these one and done bear posts.

Going to go on on CPE next week, just warning you all.

I don't fucken believe it.... How does it keep going up? What goes up, must come down.

>>19537655
Because it's gonna dip even lower at the end of Autumn.

>>19538415
they're fucking furious kek

>>19537754
Almost exactly this

WHY WONT ZOOM GO DOWN

How does an economy stop functioning for 3 months and the stock market push record highs. None of this makes any sense.

>>19538475
Because of covid? Lol

>>19538551
1. FOMO after the dip
2. BRRRRRRRRRRRR
3. Economy is not a Stock Market
4. Only a handful of future-proof companies are "pumping" this Market
5. Stimulus Checks go into Stock
6. Influx of even more new Normies
7. Media god bored with Corona, so the Pandemic is over now
8. Even if we have a second wave of infections, this time there will be no lockdown to negate any further damage.
9. People just sit on a lot of cash and they're fucking addicts and they just have to invest it into something
10. It's not a real unemployment, it will be gone the moment all the businesses open again
11. People will be so depraved of fun by then they will pour extra money on their holiday or gifts or whatever, the economy will get a strong and sudden jolt of cash

Hello frens. Before it's too late. SOXL is the answer. Face it. Semiconductors are crack in all but name. The desire for newer, faster, more is insatiable. Computers, GPUs, self-driving electric cars, AI enhanced smartphones, medical devices, microcontrollers, networking gear, machine learning, surveillance, infrastructure, military, the list goes on. No matter how many cores, how fast or efficient, demand requires bigger, faster, cheaper, better. The clamor for fresh silicon gives nary shit for national identity, creed, hue, gender or other vain conceit; the multitude speaks in singular. The plea: semiconductor.
SOXL couples a single ETF entry point with the the best companies the space has to offer then pushes these already stellar returns to the limit with 3x leverage. With SOXL your economic interests are aligned with hardware powerhouses TSMC, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Intel, Broadcom, AMD, Micron, Texas Instruments, Applied Materials, et al. Real tech companies with innovative products people want, not """tech""" """companies""" pushing shitty ads. And like all leveraged ETFs, SOXL is rebalanced daily, accelerating gains in an upmarket while deftly mitigating margin risks when down.
In the last 7 years, barring the coronavirus interruption, SOXL has exploded over 55x yet still we are early. Semiconductor growth will proceed exponentially until every viable space is saturated with it. This is a fait accompli; the sheer number of interested parties and compelling outcomes make it so. The injection of increasingly compact and efficient sensors, microcontrollers, information processing and storage into everything and everywhere will be this era's seminal revolution, a revolution with SOXL holders planted firmly at the receiving end.
Stop waiting for more "pullback". The crash was a gift and fretting over the exact bottom is meaningless. Waiting.. is a failure mode. Now. Buy it now.

>>19537655
People fell for his "poop-and-scoop" act on CNBC on March 19, just days for the bottom hit, and the V-shaped recovery commenced. Bravo to the iron hands who not only held but saw through the bullshit and bought more cheap stocks.

This is a sucker's rally, dead cat bounce will brings us to new lows this summer, lower than the previous lows. Mark my words. The economy is fucked and Trump's going to lose his job over this.

>>19537754
One thing I've learned in trading stocks is not to respect anyone else too much. Remember, every time a stock jumps 5% that's a HUGE move in terms of wealth. With every human on the planet, how many do you think saw it coming and took advantage of it? Each time? How many so-called experts? Very, very few. How many saw Covid coming and bailed early? Not as many as you would think. I had my extended family out of the market three weeks before the drop. It was at that point that I realized that the market is actually slow to price things in and most expert traders are just drunks who made connections in a frat house in college. Quants are another deal, they develop an edge with math, I respect them although what they skim is in a different category.

>>19537655
I did tho

>stonk market
Call me when a redditor doesn’t make the OP.

>>19537655
>why didn't you BTFD?
Behold

>>19538687
thx. just convinced me to FOMO into the rally

>>19537655
because they pumped 500billion into the market and it didn't do shit initially, i didn't think the 2T would be that magnificent and i didnt think they could BRRRRRRRRrr so hard without facing some consequences. I'm still 30/70 stock/cash.

in all honesty it is just pissing at the lower classes and saving rich asses, if the protests ditch the police brutality/racism pitch nd transform more into occupy wallstreet or some shit they could actually succeed in doing something

>>19538742
What's the plan for realizing those gains?

>>19538791
>What's the plan for realizing those gains?
People have been clowning me about "volatility decay" since last year when I first starting shilling them but legit, triple leveraged ETFs, specifically SOXL, TECL, TQQQ, and SPXL. Despite the volatility decay I don't see a better way to achieve maximum wealth with minimum chance of long term loss

There will be an UNGODLY pooomp in power hour. SPY +5% close, check these

>>19538839
i believe it, no digits required

Remember me, guys? They laughed. Laughed. Told me I was gonna lose all my money

>>19535739
should I go all in on ORMP lads?

Basically one more trading week until my 1 year anniversary of trading and I'm ALMOST back to break-even.

This is a major sell signal and I'm probably about to get financially ruined again.

if i've sold calls against my shares, at what point should i expect to fill that? would it be strike + original call price or is there really just no way to know?

>>19538551
By the public figuring out the big bad virus was a meme all along

how many smgs are going to kill themselves when in 3 weeks the second wave sweeps America thanks to the diversity riots and a CAT 5 wipes out the entire gulf of Mexico and the DJIA sinks below 17k

>>19538958
nah man the same thing happened to be with weed stocks and when i sold a bit over break even, it continued to moon for like +30% before crashing

just set a flexible trailing stop (account for volatility so you dont pull out too soon, be more conservative later on when you're leaning towards taking profits)

>>19538861
How much money did you make?

where's that guy that went all in on DFEN a week ago or so?
Just wanted to say congrats you absolute mad bastard, you did it.

MY FUCKING BROKER WONT LET ME CANCEL MY STOP ORDER
I CANT FUCKING SELL

>>19538861
tard

Okay fuck bois, UCO long haul is a go, who's with me?

I only have $1000 to put in though...

>>19539015
how does it feel to know that is literally what it would take at this point?

>you did buy the dip, didn't you anon?

>everything is fixed
>no more unemployment
>no more debt crisis
>everyone is spending more money
>oil is stable
>virus is gone, no second wave
>we also solved racism

>>19539015
>all rioters get COVID
DJIA +8%

>>19539037
Why aren't you on robinhood or webull?

>>19537655
I actually dumped all my paychecks into the market since March that wasn’t bills and child support.

I’m sitting at 2.5k with a return of 43.5 gains between all my investments.

Every 2 weeks I kept buying in, come Monday I’ll have another 600 to invest. It’s just harder to find cheapies some stocks are still 50% off but they kind of crappy.

I have sell orders on all non dividend positions. I plan on holding all my divvies for 30 years unless they hit ATHs then I will sell and rebuy when the price lowers again.

If this market continues to be bullish the less deals I find are going to push me into ETFs stateside and internationally.

>>19538707
Bro I made 24% return in a single day. How did you only make that in three months

>>19539033
70k this month in the Robinhood meme account. A bit more than that in futures and my IRA. I hedged a bit and could have made more cuz even as positive as I was we'd recover, I didn't see the face ripping recovery we're having. I'm content making a few hundred k though over the superflu

POST YOUR BEST
>SMALL CAPS
>BANKS
>CONSUMER CYCLICALS
>FINANCIALS
ANY THAT HAVENT RUN TOO FAR???

SHOULD I JUST BUY TNA AND WANT???

>>19539094
I doubt he put 30k down in one day. Looks like he DCA'd

>>19539015
>niggers all die off from corona, crime hits all time lows
>trump re-elected as law and order president
>markets double in next 4 years
>finally crashes as trump leaves office
>t-told you guys it was going to crash
see you then bobo

>>19538587
Second wave, Trump getting voted out, and the bubble popping.

>>19539049
Based Trump realized most of his supporters didn't buy in back in 2016 and crashed the market for us. When the economy is fully recovered I'll be a millionaire for the first time in my life. Feels good man.

>>19539061
Only sissy bitches worry about getting racismed. Man up and make money to bribe the cops with like the rest of us, you little white girl.

>>19539103
Congrats on your gains man. I was spooked by the rapidity of the -60% dump so I stayed cash and watched it recover.

>>19539070
>and child support.

>>19538674
I hate my life and self soo much for this. I shouldn’t have looked up that shitty interview on youtube. I sold so much at the bottom.

At least I have my JNJ KO PEP MRK to keep me warm at night...

>>19539070
dividends aren't great until you make enough money to live without working with them

>>19539150
>he bought KO and PEP

>>19537781
>am still hodling unironically

How much debt has CCL taken on in the past 3 months? What’s their projected revenue through the end of the year?

What happens when they can’t make their debt payments?

>>19539170
Yeah why do you keep trying to imply there’s anything wrong with that?

Cash in the account after selling some slow moving boomer stocks

Shill me your memes to buy before close

>>19539170
>KO
>and PEP
>and

>>19539191
You need to pick a side.

>>19537781
Congrats, now sell half to take profits.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>19539206
SSL.

Is anything still sitting near 52 week lows or are all the deals gone?

>>19539192
>CCL misses bond payment
>immediately defaults and stock is deisted
lmaoooo

>>19539254
SQQQ :^)

>>19537781
Sell it and buy CUK. It's still Carnival and gets the same divs, but is historically the more expensive one. Right now it's the cheaper one.

>>19539192
They restructured into cheaper debt and won't need everything they borrowed. They could last until Q3 2021 without sailing. It's not too late to buy in but I'm not here to convince anyone do that you want. Doesn't matter to me.

>>19539265
XD

>>19539034
Not him but I bought a small handful of shares. Seems like there's still a buying opportunity there.

>>19539223
Negative. I pick those two, and not kdp or MNST.

any of you sell options and have an idea when i'd expect 6/19 $32 NAIL calls to get filled?

went all in spy calls last night. only small plays from now but I might be lying to myself

>>19539276
Fuck that, go for oil, will be way higher than just an X3 return

>>19539276
I might do this. Haven't decided. CCL has outperformed because it has the name recognition that retail traders like. At some point though cuk will be better I agree.

>>19539265
I am unironically considering some SQQQ for next week. The entire market is in a short squeeze and its going to have a dip next week.

guys, whats in for oil next week?

Nobody cares about corona
Nobody even cares about a vaccine

Trump letting the riots happen without intervention has broken the mindset

Riots over, economy back... corona is a distant memory

>>19539192
lmao you're so full of cope it's ridiculous, carnival will be sailing in a month and there is NOTHING you can do about it. $40 EOY

Is it too late to buy a cruise and air line stocks?

I'm feeling Monday they'll start to dip slightly.

>>19539143
It happens man. Even buffet sat on the sidelines. Maybe we'll get a pullback if a second wave hits hard enough

>>19539192
CCL is done, they have halted further sailings in Australia and Canada, very fresh news...but nobody cares right now because we are at peak hopium right now.

Cruise stocks might do a random airline pump, who knows at this point. Everything smoke and mirrors

>>19539206
NAIL should rebound further over next week/s, just announced that new home sales are way up. was at 96 right before collapse, still only at 32, mortage rates are crazy low

Can /smg/ still stock pick correctly now that every stock isn't down 30-70%? The answer might shock you.

>>19539343
it won't get back to 96 anytime soon but i think 45 is still within reach

>>19539322
Zoom out to the 1y chart and come in here and tell me any of those stocks has "reached the top." You've been had by the coronahoax but it's not too late

>>19539333
Trips of hope for us FOMOers

>>19539322
if they crash buy some, but don't buy any now, go into other sectors that haven't exploded yet

>MFW getting VAL at .35

>CHK
>Sold at 16.58
I want to vomit.

>>19538815
The problem is you are already very wealthy so it's easy to buy many shares of high price stocks, but for us poorfags we could buy maybe 10-20 shares and gains would be smol

crusade soon?

>>19539341
Big if true, but I'm up 30% on CUK. I'm going to update my stop loss for Monday, but holding makes more sense than selling.

>clock on my pc was 4 minutes wrong for some reason
>regret buying x15 ndx and s&p bear positions a few minutes after buying them
>wanted to sell before close, try to hurry
>my broker is closed
well fuck that's possibly 30% loss or more if this retard strength bull run continues and shit goes up 2% or more on monday

>https://www.deraktionaer.de/artikel/fintech-versicherung-banken/razzia-bei-wirecard-ermittlungen-gegen-vorstandsmitglieder-aktie-knickt-ein-20202232.html

Very fresh german news, time to short wirecard again. They have got raided.

>>19537651
You should consider that money gone. As you are a private investor with small financial power( compared to companies) the money you invest should be seen as "gone in a year." if you make profit, even better.

>>19539361
the crazy low mortgage rates could cause an absolute home sale/construction explosion, there at like 50 year lows never a better time in most of our lives

What are people's thoughts on UAL? How you guys think it'll look by Monday?

>>19539341
>Everything smoke and mirrors
This defines the market right now. Peak hopium. Be careful anons, Todays pump/short squeeze could be the peak before a long bleed.

>>19539414
i don't mean the industry, i mean the ETF
NAIL's holdings are mostly recovered

>>19537655
I bought 200000 dollars worth of boeing :)
So happy I didn't listen to bears

>>19539436

Maybe a dip opportunity to buy more but it’s still only at roughly 50% if it’s 52w high. Itll push 52w high by holiday season

>>19539383
As trite as it sounds, you gotta start somewhere. If you're really small then there's always options. Chances of loss are high but if you hit a few times in a row you're account will be sitting real nice. I dabble and just sold some S M H calls today I bought a couple of months ago. What I'm saying is leverage is king if you can make it work

>>19539414

Locked in at the end of Jan and moved into a new Home in April. 30yr fixed VA. Market can do whatever it wants. Does not matter to me. It was a final move. I plan on dying in the house.

Okay Friday is almost over. What will happen on Monday. What should I short except the airlines?

>>19539436
It will dump

doing the opposite of my gut and buying the dirt cheap puts on spxs and riding the wave. see you boys at sub 7 dollas

ZM put bro are you out there?
hold strong, brother
ZM needs to reach 204.14 (or so) to complete the head and shoulders then it's down fast or to the moon
i don't see any reason for it to go to the moon when its black swan just died

>>19539279
>After the Federal Reserve increased the size of its lending program in March, JPMorgan was reportedly able to find new buyers for Carnival debt. The cruise company eventually raised over $6 billion in debt and equity, with the traditional and convertible bonds carrying interest rates of 11.5% and 5.75%, respectively. Earlier this month, Carnival CEO Arnold Donald said the company has enough money to survive a scenario in which it earns no revenue for the rest of this year. Some of the company's brands have canceled cruises until July or August, as all cruise lines face a ban on sailing in US waters that could last until July.

https://www.businessinsider.com/carnival-faced-higher-interest-rate-new-debt-before-fed-action-2020-4

He's getting desperate

>>19538839
Is power hour the final hour ?

>>19539312
NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS

just put a stop order at -0.75 current price or something

>>19539362
>>19539365
I've got horrible FOMO and a lot of money to fuck with.

I'm just asking how likely there's a moderate dip coming next week? If not I'm fully ready to go all in and wait it out.

>>19539480
all northcuck does is to whine about the fed

>>19539414
>forbearance is rapidly rising
>mass unemployment
>higher bar to get loans
>RATES ARE SO LOOOOW! WHOS READY FOR HOUSING BOOM?
lmao, some people are so dumb.

>>19539480
That cat's not dead at all!!

>VAL

We're going to $1.00 boys, grab it now.

I NEED EOD PUMP GUYS

>>19539480
I don't understand why he can't entertain opposing opinions.
Even Cramer was bearish as all hell but he came around.

Why has airlines today been slowly losing their beginning of the day gains all through trading today ?

>sold AAL at peak today after buying at 10
Should I buy back in?

Took a nap, had a dream a cute harpy girl was bouncing on my penis.
Woke up hard as a rock and looked to see if there was a crash is past 2 hrs. Nothing, still making money.

>>19539508
Yep
That and that the market isn’t zero.

>>19537359
Options is actually pretty simple and it's the only way for small capital retail traders to make any kind of decent money. Aside from different credit/ debit spreads, options basically just track the underlying with extreme amounts of leverage. Remember, always do the opposite of what /smg/ says. Even me.

>>19539533
No.
I did the same except I bought in at $12.
Wait till monday, huge possibility its a short squeeze.
Or just put your money in LUV or ALK like I'm planning on doing.

>unemployment rate higher than its GFC peak
>but it still went down so markets pump
The more clowned things get the more smug I become. Please, keep piling in, buy everything. Markets only go up right?

>>19539530
Because short squeezes have an end and profit taking is more in focus after increasing 50-100% in a week. lol

>>19539480
WAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>19539574
Based and Bobo pilled. Soon, we rise.......

>>19539555
I have most of my money in other things right now that I'm hoping will do well.
I could do a day trade though if AAL is expected to spike.
I'm hoping it drops more again first.

>>19537655
I put in about 10K into the market between Feb 28 and April 31

ZM bulls making last attempt
if they break 205.50, they could be safe
if they fail here, it's back to earth

HAHAHAHA It's going back down. Get fucked Bulls. The age of the Bear has dawned.

>>19539564
Have you even read the report? Some sectors gained insane numbers of new jobs, while most of the country was closed down. Very interesting. And lovely trump posted 1minute after number release, not political at all.

>>19539478
>Interest rates of 11.5%
They are fucking DEAD

>>19539574
It works until it doesn't, then the stop loss saves your gains and you buy the resulting dip so you moon bigger and better than you could before.

>VAL to .70

Here to we go

>>19539574
>and the the crying to the fed begins
lmao and then they get unlimited free money

POST YOUR BEST
>SMALL CAPS
>BANKS
>CONSUMER CYCLICALS
>FINANCIALS
THAT HAVEN'T RUN TOO FAR

>>19539574
>bulls push market up 20%
>retreats 5%
>see I was right

>>19539627
Implying retail investors know what a stop loss is. LOL

>>19539367
Hopefully they don't go bankrupt anon, I just went all in

Bros what oil stock will benefit most if OPEC+ has a meeting that's good for oil prices ? Want to take a gamble that the meeting will have good news for oil

>>19539654

Set you exit, GTFO at EOD.

>>19539650
Sit Bobo. Good bear.

>>19539650
I know exactly what it is, but I choose not to use them. That, and that Schwab's phone app doesn't let you set trailing stops, and I'm too lazy to go to my computer.

>>19539574
what a fucking retard
this is the decade of the BJLL curve

>>19539678
I have a stop order already in if that's what you mean

>>19539677
it already happened

OXY btw

>>19539654
They are absolutely going bankrupt, this is a pump and dump scheme. Take your gains and go.

ZM bull push to break above head and shoulders faltering... stalling out at about 206.70

Bong here..... I'm buying DENN as part of my recovery holding

Tell me why I shouldn't

>>19539699

SL and Profit exit.

>>19539650
Stop loses are for gentiles

>>19539574
>it works until it doesn´t

yeah and then it goes down 30% and then back up in a month

ZM bull push gathering and trying again... stalling at 206.10

>>19539731
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!

>>19539710
how do you know anon...

>>19539677
>>19539701
UCO still has plenty of headroom doesn't it?

>>19539726
because I just bought calls

also, because is there really pent-up demand and excitement for dinner food?

nasdaq zombies helping with ZM bull push but 206 seems to be the new ceiling. falling back into mid 205

Alright SSL bros, I've made so much off my calls I bought on Monday. I'm going to get out and take profits today even though I know it has much long term potential, I just want to realize some gains for the first time since I started trading, and to the SSL bro that was shilling it all last and this week, I owe you a drink thanks

>>19539760
It's in the cards, barring a random surge of oil to 70+

I'm going to stop purchasing products and supporting businesses that employ niggers. Fuck niggers.

Anyone have that divvy calendar? Would like to see it to start putting my riches into good stocks

OH NO WHAT IS WTI DOING
FUCKING O NO NO ONO STOP

>>19539555
Zoom, wayfair, spotify, etc. have proven that short squeezes don't mean anything anymore. nothing crashes from here out.

>>19539518
Where were you yesterday?

>>19539836
>nothing crashes from here out
Until everything does all at once. I'm not a bobo, just sayin, the 11 year bull run continues and we still haven't had a sustained, real correction due to Fed fuckery. It'll come some day, but not today.

>>19539788
double Woodford Reserve, thank you.

>>19539836
zoom is literally in a death struggle trying to break above head and shoulders RIGHT NOW

DELICIOUS DIP

>>19539818
Now you get it. All these nhilistic altright fags that "see reality", meanwhile you should just focus on making money and not listen to the (((capitalism critics))).
Free market is a white man's system. Fuck the naysayers, I've been hustling since I was a teenager and I won't quit now.
>Redpill: More people trying to get rich the more opportunity there is for everyone

That face when holding MRO, RTX, OKE, SSL and they run hard bringing me back to my laments initial investment three years ago.

>Make $60 on AAL

Small gains, but if I make $50+ a day I'd be happy

>>19539808
Fine jeez I'll sell at the end of the day and buy more tomorrow when I wake up.

>>19539818
Why werent you already doing this?

Gave up on reading the chart and just decided to trade straddles on SPY

>>19539902
I should back up- I'm not saying you should sell, it may rally to 3 or something, I'm just saying know that you're playing with fire.

>>19539918
I use a mathematical model to determine the best time to hold SPY and Treasuries. Maybe you could do the same.

What should I do with my money when MRO SSL and OKE go back to january levels? Am I gonna make it Biz, I can only get so erect thinking about these gains?

41 OKE avg 23
180 MRO avg 5.54
47 SSL avg 5.90
30 RTX avg 60.

ME GRUG
ME HAVE STROGN HANDS
ME HODLLLL

>>19539893
>CEQP and CUK
I'm getting anxious with FOMO about selling.

>>19539955
Same brother I am afraid I am almost on a 100% gains with OKE on my initial investment.

MOTHERFUCKER TRIGGERD MY STOP

>>19539926
TOO LATE ANON I ALREADY SOLD EVERYTHING MADE $50 TODAY

Also robinhood is going to mark me as a pattern day trader soon lol

it looked like everything was about to dip again..

oh shit
is the ZM buying right now just 6/5 shorts covering?

>>19539955
Velocity of money is going to keep driving everything up. There's profit taking here and there and then it shoots up again. The people making the most will generally be the hodlers who just buy the msm contrarian position (since the msm is literally always wrong and always gaslighting) and sit tight. Don't let the fomo or the bobo on this board sway you.

>>19539882
You do know that baggie is a literal Jew, right?

>>19539931
>Maybe you could do the same
...how?
what maths are even good for this modeling?

>>19539931
Short-term option plays work better when the market is 'clean', but I haven't figured out a good indicator of market being in the right state.

>he didn't buy the dip

>>19539824
god it survived. wti is going to fucking 42+ into monday.

>>19540004
Probably for the best anon. It's musical chairs with companies like that, don't wanna be left standing.

What in the fuck am are we to expect next week?
Been making money off airlines but have the shakiest hands in a long time and don't want to hold anything

>>19540100
So just sell dummy and take your gains

>>19539955
>CEQP
I sold to early, damn.

Hope you guys bought VAL like i told you

>>19540100
there are no sell catalysts left unless a stock was benefitting from the black swan, imo

>>19539616
>some places gained so its ok we have 40 million unemployed and 30% unemployment
Jobs still existed during the great depression too, you know.

what is this shit? 6 minute 12 point SPX fucking swings? STOP PLAYING WITH MY EMOTIONS BOGS!!!!

the ghost of America's future

>>19540074
I should have bought more and sooner.

>>19540100
There are no expectations. No one knows what the fuck is going on because the markets are 100% detached from fundamentals. We've left earth's gravitational pull and now hurl through the void powered by our FED ENGINES, pushed and pulled and warped and transmogrified at the whims of powers beyond our comprehension.

>>19540100

Never hurts to take profit but I think the bottom is in the rear view mirror. They all crab upward with some sell offs here and there and some big pump days too. Next earnings report will likely be shit do be ready for that dump. Theyll push the 52w highs by holiday season, you can hold you can cut n run or you can enter and exit to try and swing

>>19540146
>taking care of a another man's BLACK kid
truly KEKED

>>19540146

What a fuckin cuck

>>19540174
>I think the bottom is in the rear view mirror
How can people be his dumb? Truly astounding. Its like people who say bitcoin1 milion eod. Totally insane. People said the exact sae thing during the dot com bubble and 2008 crash. BUT THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT! Yes, people are even MORE GREEDY.

>>19539461
>>19539469
Thanks. I'll wait until monday and see how things are. Assuming things pick up then, would you say it's a good longterm investment? I'm a brit so I don't know it too well other than it's a big US airline.

>>19540146
jesus christ

>>19540242

If you think any of the airlines are going back to March lows you’ve completely lost your mind. Get fucked doomer bear fag you’ll forever be waiting on a dip that isn’t there

>>19540146
>scrawny numale
>beta mentality
>white apologist
>cucked by tryone
so this is the power of reddors?

>>19540266
I can't take it any more Jerry! I poke, he whiff punishes! I approach, he shoryukens! I jump, he DPs! Every instinct I have is wrong, Jerry, 100% backwards!

Vix is rising. This is going to turn into a #RedDay #AllLivesMatter

>>19540256

It’s an amazing long term investment and reasonably safe. Opportunities like this don’t come often. 3-4 times in a man’s lifetime tops

>>19540316
that's his biological kid, he married the Lebron James sister of tennis

>>19540340
>that's his biological kid, he married the Lebron James sister of tennis
oh so hes a race mixer too?
remind me how thats a positive feature

>>19540333

Red day is a stretch but there’s going to be a sell off

Everyone propping up Zoom should be investigated by the SEC

>>19540366
covering shorts and index zombies
it won't last

>>19540362
>hes a race mixer too
>too
but you were wrong about it not being his kid, this should read "so hes a race mixer?"

>>19540128
Update, VAL is now up 156%

>>19540366
Funds who buy indexes have to buy Zoom.

>>19540128

In at 0.35, set Profit at $1.00. When it hit 0.80 set SL at 0.75. When it pulled back, I'm, got profit. Will toast a beer to /smg/ bretheren.

Hail

Now if we could just get SESN to run like VAL.

>would've been twice as green if I fomod into blue chips and hodled

>>19540454
Considering how it went today I'm expecting it to go up more Monday, holding for now.

>>19540528
>holding for now.

Thought of that, but, been burnt after hours.

>>19537413
Wrong AMD is correctly valued, intel is fucked
>focus on diversity
>we need to change metrics
>here is our nuclear reactor cpu to match amd cores.
>pay us more u fag.
>14nm++++++++++++

>>19540494
Don't worry, I did but I'm aware the rug pull is going to go down in the history books.

>>19540084
NO, REEEE I SOLD AT .80 AND IT WENT TO .85!!!!

>>19540578
I don't have that much money in it so not a big risk for me, so I respect your point, if I had 1K or more in there I'd pull out.

>>19540594
Why would any of that matter? Leave your personal REEEE politics at the door. It's P/E is nearly 10 times any of its peers.

>>19540594
fagman is overvalued in general. investors used it as safe haven during crisis, and now that economy is springing back, it doesn't deflate for some reason. no way it's not gonna bog soon.

This big tropical storm is going to turn into a hurricane. Buy NAIL.

>>19540302
You literally sound insane bro. Just like before the crash
>Theres no way it can drop 30%!
Like, wtf??? It could literally happen next week. Stop pretending like it can't go down.

>>19540601
says the increasingly nervous bear for the 5th time. We are gonna correct but the march lows are likely gone.

>t. bear that (mostly) capitulated when we broke 2100

New
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>>19540756
Thread hasn't even hit limit you fuck face retard.

Get ready for that VAL sell off.

>>19540747
I'm not a bear, I'm 100% in the market. I'm saying since the March pullback was a flash in the pan that I'm aware a real, sustained correction is still in the cards.

>>19539634
basically this.
If you're right you win.
If you're wrong, you win.

Being a bull is so easy it hurts.

>>19540853
They realized bulls make the world a better place.

>>19537655
I did, and I made a thread about it telling everyone to have some confidence in this country. The stock market has rewarded me bigly for it.

everyone saying that a correction is sure to happen makes me realize that a correction is not going to happen.

>>19539480
>dead cat
>posts a live cat

>>19541124
you made me realize that there are many like you and correction is going to happeb

>>19539726
Denny’s is alright they beat expectations and will again. You’ll make money just gains but it not as much being late to the game.

BA CHADS

>>19539775
Boomers love Denny's

Holy fuck idk about you guys but I got a huge eod pump

>>19540594
They are both shit, AMD women ceo and blm donator.

>>19538475
>Because it's gonna dip even lower at the end of Autumn.
That's not a excuse. You have the next dip timed.
Why not play until then?
I agree with you, specially on the real estate bubble.

ONTX up 56% the last month, anyone else hodling?

310

RTX CHADS RISE UP

>IT'S NOT FAIR!!
>WHY DOES HE GET 2 SCOOPS?!

>>19538551

I did some research back in April, decided that covid was a meme and bought all the stonks. Eventually everyone else caught on.

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