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Anyone have any experience with doing business using mandarin?

>> No.19479274

>>19479257
Learn Spanish, China is old news

>> No.19479300

If you want to teach English you can get some decent money out of it

>> No.19479320

>>19479257
Learn yiddish and larp as a descendant of famous hasidic family. Rich ashkenazi boomers will make you a millionaire guaranteed

>> No.19479388

>>19479257
Very situational considering how much work it is to learn it. Unless you're already in an industry where knowing it would help a lot, don't bother. I've been learning it for over 5 years and it's never helped me professionally. Knowing Mandarin won't open any doors that you don't already have your foot in.

>> No.19479439

>>19479388
This is a fair assessment. Pronunciation via pinyin is difficult enough, learning to read it that much more difficult. Knowing a little of both, I honestly think Spanish is more useful.

>> No.19479566

>>19479257
I eat mandarins for breakfast

>> No.19480152

>>19479388
How fluent are you after 5 years?

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reminds me of this post

>> No.19480532

>>19480152
Can converse on most non-technical topics without too much difficulty, I still get tripped up sometimes trying to express myself on topics where I lack the vocabulary. I can read the newspaper (albeit slowly, with a dictionary app on hand.) Can't quite follow radio broadcasts consistently yet, I still struggle without any visual input. Not sure how well I'd manage in a business setting at this point, if my work was technical it'd probably be fine. I did spend two years in Taiwan studying as well, I don't think I'd be able to have gotten to where I am now without immersion. I don't do much more than half an hour a day these days, in addition to going to the occasional Chinese conversation meetup. I also picked it up a bit quicker than most of my classmates, especially the other westerners, so take that as you will.

>> No.19480544

>>19480435
It’s all true

>> No.19480683

>>19480532
Thanks for the reply anon

>> No.19480764

>>19480544
That's what you get for dealing with chinks.

>> No.19480998

>>19480764
Agreed. How they’re not given the best Korea treatment blows my mind. I guess when there’s money to be made any sort of decency goes out the window

>> No.19481048

>>19480532
C?

>> No.19481153

>>19479257
almost never. the chinese-americans I know who are fluent in mandarin pretend to only speak english when they do biz in china. That's cause Chinese businessmen's understanding of "win-win" is "I win twice".

The best way to handle chinese is not to communicate effectively and reach a mutually beneficial arrangement. It's to make them think that they're fucking you over. That can mean making them think that they have some advantage over you that they don't (like you not knowing the language).

I know a guy who buys and sells electronics in china (like, hundreds of thousands of chips). He told me, when he wants to do a big deal, he'll leave a bunch of sealed boxes of cheap, rusty crap unguarded, hoping that his Chinese customer/vendor will steal them. This makes the chinaman let-down their guard down. Then, you can do a mutually advantageous trade after that, and the chinaman will think that they're still fucking you over big time cause they stole the mystery boxes.

>> No.19481327

>>19479274
>China is old news
Are you retarded?

>> No.19481385

>>19481327
No, just pretending. Have fun doing business with them

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>>19479257

If u live in the US you'll beter off learning spanish amigo.