/biz/ - Business & Finance

The dollar.

FUCK CHYNA!

a n i m e t a n k e r t i e r t i d d i e s

Tankers! :3

Who's on the SKYW flight to SSL town?

INVESTING IN GUN STOCKS IS PROFITING OFF THE SUFFERING OF UNDERPRIVELEGED COMMUNITIES

SELL THOSE STOCKS OFF NOW

THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING BEFORE THE MARGINALIZED SHOW UP TO YOUR GATED COMMUNITY

#HANDSUPDONTSHOOT #ICANTBREATHE

>>19455532
kek

>>19455515
It's finally sinking as expected. Enjoy the hyperinflation lmao.

literally just zoom and tesla carrying the entire market right now

>>19455532
How should we profit from the suffering of marginalized communities? Do you have better picks?

Give me your stocks that'll sore this week due to the dindus rioting?

>>19455545
THIS IS NOT A FUCKING JOKE YOU NEED TO SELL YOUR SWBI STOCK NOW

EVERYONE SELL YOUR SWBI STOCK NOW UNTIL THE PRICE HITS 12.95 SO I

I MEAN SOMEONE ELSE CAN BUY IT AT THAT PRICE

#JESUISOMARJIMENEZ

>>19455568
pew pew pew

>>19455532
>BEFORE THE MARGINALIZED SHOW UP TO YOUR GATED COMMUNITY

The cops surround those neighborhoods, not to protect the white people, but to protect the niggers from walking into a middle class firing squad. White people own guns and gun stocks.

TVIX chad reporting in.
Got me a handful at sub 145
End of june is going to be glorious

Why won't Wayfair godown and stay down. Why are there so many fucking meme stocks right now. Spotify, Wayfair, draftkings, zoom, Tesla, Etsy, Shopify. Its so puzzling

>>19455532
RTX is good too.

>>19455592
>green id
dumb bobo

Tesla puts when?

HANDS UP DONT COOM

>>19455532
DAS RITE

AND DONTCHU GO INVESTIN IN THAT GEO PRIVATE PRISON

NOMMUSAYIN NIGGU

Why do you check your portfolio every single day anon? Do you want to die from stress?

>>19455568

Where does seekingalpha hide their price/freecashflow numbers? Enjoy using the site, but can't find that specific ratio anywhere for them.

>TGT down by only 3%
you told me its going to go to up /smg/.

>>19455642
I did this back in March and stopped in April. I don't care what happens to it at this point, I just come here to lurk and some advice here and there.

Zoom doesn't even have a meme snakeoil salesman zoomer god like Elon.
Isn't "opening up" memes also supposed to mean this meme shit dies?
How is Zoom going to 200?
>2400 P/E

I keep seeing that Citigroup article getting thrown around, talking about how people need to get their money out of the market while prices are high, and before the "real pain sets in" or whatever. They're saying the market it pricing in a V shaped recovery, but honestly I think that's retarded logic. Anyone that's been paying attention knows it's probably not going to be a V, but it's surely going to end up in the green just like every other time. Might not be in 6 months but everyone who sold when things got scary in the past missed out big in the long term

>>19455673
i love that chiken-chan

I hate niggers

i miss this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe

Is this a good time to invest in VTI (total stock market) or continue funding a targeted retirement account? Total market has more possible returns but I kinda feel like I missed the dip

>>19455652
seekingalpha is terrrible
>muh dividend investing
>muh crash is coming
>muh precious metals

Buy FANG and ignore these fags

>>19455642
>only have 110 shares SPCE and 100 of EMAN for laughs
It's easy for me to ignore it

>>19455652
>key data
>cash flow
>scroll

WHY IS IT GOING DOWN

>https://www.investing.com/analysis/after-a-rough-2-years-will-coffee-percolate-on-the-upside-again-200526261
>Is coffee good for you?
Yes, bullish.

>>19455568
Ruger is up btw and also bought AAXN calls at the opening.

>he bought OLN without looking at the fundos
OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHA

>>19455675
It’s a scam.
Buy it you idiot.

NHI seems to have crazy good dividend yield and is still in a corona-dip along with most of REIT. Good time to buy?

>>19455694
>funding a targeted retirement account
highly consider funding a closer target retirement fund like 2015 2020 or 2025. limit your international exposure. I'm now 85% cash and like 12% bonds the remaining in stocks.

>Corona still killing hundreds of people per day, infection rate in the thousands
>Political instability in India/China growing
>Riots in the USA on a scale only seen once or twice per generation
>dow jones in the green
Clown world.

>swbi already back at what it opened with
shiieeeeeeet i missed it bros

its literally over

REEEEEE FUCK OFF CRABFAGS STOP SNIPPING MY STOCKERINOS

>>19455685
chicken-chan is adorable!

>>19455699
p/cf and p/fcf are two different things, guess I'll just use wallmine or finviz for that specific metric

>>19455694
90/10 VTSAX/VBTLX is kind of the most hands off retirement portfolio there is.

>>19455731

>buy when there’s blood in the streets.

Amazing energy oil & gas up 5 x in a week!

>>19455731
>The seasonal flu nothingburger
>Geopolitics mostly irrelevant to earnings
>Riots will increase economic growth

Green as it should be

CSCO

keep DKNG?

>>19455609
green will be the color of your doom.
Us bobos are ecology warriors after all, we want the concrete babylon to burn and the forest to arise from the ashes and have as many trees to scratch our backs on and bees to proliferate again for more delicious honey
Heil Greta

How are the US index equities not being even slightly effected by the national riots?

>>19455736
> STOCKERINOS
I can tell that you said this with complete sincerity
>>>/r/eddit

>>19455770
fuck no sell it retard

so is it safe to say that if literal war breaks out in USA that stocks only go up

>>19455745
>ID: SPYQSgNB
>ID: SPY
>ID: SPY
>ID: SPY
>ID: SPY

BULLISH AS FUUUUUCK!!!

>>19455777
the riots are priced in

>>19455813
I hope the leftfags get what they want--war. Little do they know that they will be completely exterminated.

>>19455745
uhuhu

>>19455755
i would still consider being cash or bond heavy (relatively) for a while. even if it's just up to your age in bonds.

kansas city mayor making some dangerous sense re: police

>>19455835
whats he saying

>>19455642
That pic... anon you... you are making me coom. Yo made me stroke my dick. Who is the woman? Yo and no one else is stimulating my penis to coom.
Anyways, sauce pls

oh no bullbros we got too cocky

STOP SAYING THE N WORD
This is blue board. No racism outside of /b/!

Really need to mow my yard but the lure of watching my green pile up is very strong..

>>19455714
>2016
Olin works with Browning and Winchester products, those aren't going anywhere

>>19455813

There won’t be a war those chumps are out protesting because they were given the green light to do so without repercussion. If the police opened fire they would be home being good goys.

>>19455813
Hey it works every time.

>>19455678
There are two forces competing against each other right now. Ignore all the zoomer permabear doom and boomer permabull jew service.
For money to go out of equities it'd have to find somewhere else to go. Currently there is both massive money printing and stimulus in almost every major economy on the planet. Historically, as happened after 2008, we had mostly the former and it got dumped into the "bull run" of 2008-2020. Now we had a taste of various flavors of infinite QE everywhere PLUS stimulus with the goal of stopping deflation with inflation. TINA is the queen bitch of the bull market. Notice nothing about the actual economy matters for this.
The actual bear thesis is that corporate profits were wildly mismatched with the market since 2018 which historically has always lead to "corrections" or "rebalancing". Now they are worse, but this thesis has never encountered MMT before. The market is stupid top heavy at the moment so even a rebalancing out of huge caps would look like a "crash" since all the major indices are so tied up into it.

>>19455714
>OLN
Glad I skipped that one.

>>19455842
he isn't whining about muh racism but talking about the militarization and hinting at the fact that they recruit the most basic retards off the street

>>19455853
Fuck you nigger

>>19455853
nigger is a term of endearment and as a person of color I reserve my right to say nigger as much as I want dumbass cracker bitch

And we swing down.
Can’t wait for hospitals going crazy with nogs in 2 weeks.

>>19455816
Ask me anything you want to know about SPY for this thread, I will bestow you future knowledge through the power of the chicken.

When do you all think the markets will crash? I’m thinking mid to late july

>>19455881
>>19455883
STOPPPPP

>>19455872
It's literally up 4% today you mong

>tfw you wish joggers and communist agitators would come to your suburbs so the right wing death squads could finally form

>>19455727
REITs make money with interest rate arbitrage. Sure, all their acquisitions are cheap right now, but thin spreads and defaults can kill a highly leveraged REIT. In these cycles, REITs with poor risk management tend to get killed off, and a new batch arises from ashes post-crisis. I think cREITs are mostly bad investment this year, but sure, if you can manage to pick only the mREITs and hREITs that aren't over-leveraged & don't fail, you will be in a good place 18 months from now.

>>19455853
Niggers is a protected class of person, they can't change the way you they you bigot.

>>19455813
The last time the U.S. fought a land battle inside its own borders was against the slave owning version of itself. Coming out of WW1 & WW2 unscathed is a large part of why we are the superpower that we are. Deciding to pick a fight with a country that doesn't have nukes and preferably have oil is incredibly bullish. You take young people out of the job market by forcing them to renew their overseas deployment commitments, reducing the unemployment #s domestically. All these out of work aircraft part manufacturers suddenly get fat government contracts, etc.

>>19455893
what's SPY looking like from 2025 to 2030. I see a bump up through those years, but i'm thinking it'll look pretty hollow. No idea what range it will be trading in, but I think it'll be in an uptrend like from 09 - 12.

>>19455893
I don't even know what SPY is but pretty sure a lot of people other than myself make money on it. Can I make money on it as well? How?

>>19455908
It will more like a tower defense game.

>98% of us market sentiment is bullish
Imagine entrusting your money to how retail traders feel topkek

>>19455895
>when do you all think the markets will crash?
8-10 years from now, or in Nov if Biden magically wins

you missed the dip of the decade

>>19455883
>>19455881
No no no. He’s right. Don’t say nigger. Say Jogger instead

>>19455893
what should i do with my 6/10 $312 calls?
got in at .99
feels greedy to hold them past today

>>19455731
We have this post multiple times a day for every day for nearly two months. Pathetic bears.

>the market is behaving exactly like the 2008 crash!

SWBI chads report in.

Bought in at ~6 dollars

>>19455895
Markets already crashed last March. You're three months too late from the Bobo party.

>>19455907
>only 4%
no thanks

Why the fuck are you talking about looters coming to the suburbs when the fucking stores are unguarded? Like, why wouldn’t want your old ass TV when circuit city has a huge selection of the brand new ones?
Like, why would I want your old ass small foot air Jordan’s when I could get brand new ones in my size if I loot the foot locker? Use your damn head.

>>19455943
no im not doing that reddit shit

>have no job or income
>buy stock
>sell stock
>Make $9000 in capital gains on stock
Pay no tax on it because in 0% tax bracket

>Buy some dividend end stock
>make 11 dollars in dividends
IRS: OH YOU THERE, GIMME MAH $1.10 (10%) or I PUT YOU IN PRISON

how is it fair to screw dividend holders again?

jesus christ. its going to zero after this bear trap isnt it, jesus mary and joseph, good god have mercy on my boomer relatives

>>19455532
>Antifa labeled as terrorist
How do I invest is doctors who specialize in anal reconstructive surgery?

>>19455965
>jogger doesn't know about serial numbers and tracking tech
neat

Why did American Outdoor Brands even change their name?

I'm financially ruined...

>>19455942
I made money on that. But still I don’t think that printing money will stop a full crash. 40 mil unemployed and all that.

Is there something like a 3x SPY?

>Biden would be bad for markets
>less tariffs and more globalism would be bad for corporations
>thinking Biden would be hard on corporations or military spending
God tripfags are so fucking stupid sometimes. Why build a reputation if you’ve only got stupid shit to say?

>>19455813
>antifa being called out by black people all over twitter making enemy out of them
>trump vows to label them as terrorists
war is pushing it. more like a crackdown.

>>19455982
>Pay no tax on it because in 0% tax bracket
yeah but now you gotta survive off of 9k for 365 days

>>19455995
tfw no stop loss

>>19455958
The markets cannot be disconnected from reality forever. Eventually they’ll break.

Tbh if you don't know what a liquidity swap line is you should probably stop buying stocks and just try to be a landlord or something

>>19455982
They are doing you a service since dividend stocks are almost all traps

>>19455925
If the V-shaped recovery continues and we reach from ATH by the end of this year, I'd say we'll trade SPY at around the 450-500 range by 2025.

>>19456008
Married to foreign wife in a different country. For tax purposes, I am single head of household.

>>19455992
you don't want to be known as the gun company if the political headwinds are bad (e.g. bi-annual school shootings), but at the same time you want people to know that you build guns when people are stocking up (like right now)

Guys which reverse ETF is best when we go to war with china? It seems like DOW is the most fragile about this subject.

>>19456001
>40mil unemployed
anyone who wasn't employed during the last 3 months is 99% USELESS to the economy

why would the stock market or economy be held back by literal chaff?

>>19456020
Divvie stocks are actually amazing to have bought the march dip. Getting insane gains + dividend is just glorious.

>>19455990
is this image supposed to be horrifying

bros im jobless and need to pay rent but im too much of a vagina to invest. what stocks should i gamble on?

>>19456026
>income abroad form 2555
the absolute dankest of fucking forms, goddamn i wish i still filed that fucker.

>>19455731
The coronavirus is a hoax, stop believing FAKE NEWS and accumulate VTIQ

>>19455925
Cute dawn! She's from best gen!
As for the SPY between 2025-2030, it's actually comparable to '03-'07, without the housing crash. Very slow crab upward as further geopolitical clashes with China have forced businesses to move production elsewhere in recent years. Things feel steady in comparison from the eternal rage that was the second term of Donald Trump, but the economy really slowed down once he left.

>>19456015
Aren't you the one who's disconnected from reality? You'll break eventually.

>>19456051
maybe if you're a homo
(you're right something is horribly wrong, i apologize with something a bit better)

>>19456054
>a nice sweet first 100k tax free

Only works on foreign earned income tho

>>19456050
What divvies did you buy? I got fucked with RDS.B

>>19456005
SPXL

>>19456015
This false reality can last a long time.

>>19456042
Skyrocketing debt, lack of consumption, businesses going under, ect.

>>19456050
I have offered this challenge before. Name a divvy ticker that outperformed just buying spy. You can include the divvy of the entire year if you want.

>>19455804
why is that?

1 year Shanghai Composite Index up by 0,88%
Maybe buy them if you are unsure about the US market?

>>19456005
Only decent thing I'm aware of is SSO, but that's 2x.
I'm not a big SPY guy, though. There might be something better out there.

>>19456082
XOM, SPYD, CVX,

>>19456076
i had it for two years as a faggot english teacher, but holy shit it was so fucking dank. my takehome was higher than my 50k job now because of that form.

>>19456094
fuck off chang

>>19456086
True.

>>19456091
its price is through the roof despite bigly missing its first earnings

>>19456118
I am self employed and get reemed in the ass hard by high local taxes, so it evens out. Getting double taxed would un-lubed rape

why the fuck is zoom mooning

lmao CNBC is dying to make this riot shit a big deal

>>19456084
>>19456102
Thanks mates, unfortunately I only have SSO available to me.

>TSLA

>just woke up
>everything up
Huh, thought today was gonna be redder so I went mostly cash gang. Gonna wait for todays gains to taper at eod to buy again and rejoin the Bvlls.

>even gold is up
Thought this was gonna inverse too. Odd.

>>19455952
it literally is up to so far so you're retarded

>>19456142
earnings apparently

ROOFTOP KOREANS ARE BACK

>>19456005

>>19456152
Gold is manipulated.

>>19456126
so its all hype, not worth holding til sports comes back?

gold might unironically be a cup and handle forming. I don't know what to do.

>>19456142
Because this protests mean schools won't be opening any time soon maybe. 3 weeks from now there should be a breakout of covid because of these retards

thoughts on USAC?
i've got 12.50 calls that are going like gangbusters and i'm seriously considering moving over from NAIL to USAC as my main position
would i be selling the NAIL bottom to buy the USAC top?

>>19455908
Why would you want to hurt the joggers? Check your privilege - white men are the ones doing the harm.

>>19456042
60-70% of GDP is consumer spending. Without the “useless” spending money the whole system collapses.

>>19456167
Not in my opinion no. But im speculating and there is no correct answer to this

>>19456126
I want to sell, but I honestly don't know what else to buy at the moment, nothing stands out as having a great run like DKNG did

>>19456161
This is extremely helpful mate, cheers.

>>19456161
You're awesome.

>>19456142

Not sure. Part of me wants to buy a put but part of me knows how JUSTed you get if you fight the trend

puts on ZM ?

>>19456168
You're a fucking idiot.

>>19456186
its not imminent for you to sell it, but you should set a stop loss just in case it crashes. You're set that way

>>19456180
That is where stimulus comes in. A lot of useless employees now make more money being unemployed than they did in their cagies.

>>19456090
NVDA

tfw u don't have time for selling iron condors and vertical spreads anymore so you just swing trade and make more money anyway

Prediction-Zoom will peak June 10th before gradually declining. By November it’ll be at most 50% higher than pre Covid.
>>19456212
The government can’t print trillions forever.

>>19456189
nice 3D.

>>19456206
>muh manipulated
>ur a fag retard
DXY might tell a different story. I don't know senpai.

Fuck NIO wtf

>>19456182
Im sure more states that allow it will rely more on gambling revenue down the line and others ought to follow

>>19456215
Alright, you got me. I still think its generally true that the lower the divvy of a stock the better it has "recovered". Zero being ideal. Just look at Disney.

Im selling some of my positions rn so expect a huge pump soon

i need to buy puts, ZM VS TSLA, WHO WINS ?

>>19456226
>The government can’t print trillions forever.
Modern Monetary Theory says yes they can.

>>19456042
I still don't get why printing money would save the stock market when most of the volume came from the unemployed who got their trumpbux and invested on the stock market. The stock market is the safe haven for this temporary economic set-back. The Fed is only 10% of the market, the rest are simply retail investors.

Theres prolly still some retarded bobos holding SQQQ at 80% loss still. When will they learn?

>>19456212
PCPP stimulus ends in June.

Trumpbux were a single payment of $1200 which maybe covers 2 months rent.

Congress doesn’t appear poised to go BRRRRRR again. Fed BRRRRR doesn’t go to consumers.

>>19456254
ZM, betting against tesla is suicide

>>19456270
Retail investors make up less than 10% of market volume, even now.

>>19456265
Can’t wait till I’m wiping with million dollar bills
>>19456282
Time Musk’s tweets

Really stupid question:

If I sell funds within my brokerage but don't withdraw the $ to my bank account, is that transaction taxed?

I just don't want to get a huge bill for transactions at the end of the year for money that's still in my brokerage

SSL

How about a compromise, every black father after his first kid agrees to be chemically castrated in exchange for the stop destroying everything money

>>19456270
>The Fed is only 10% of the market, the rest are simply retail investors.
>he called me retarded
kek. The first part of your post is right, but the middle and ending aren't. Institutions are in due to regulations and requirements or other motivations (Q3 earnings prep for many financials), not necessarily because they want to be there. The TINA argument is a cointoss, and I think it's off base unless Warren Buffet is actually braindead and George Soros is actually out of touch.

>>19456292

>>19456208
Still, I don't know what I'd buy with my profits. Maybe i'll throw them in CCL or something stupid

>>19456250
>chink stock
bail dude.

How bad do you guys think the second wave of Rona' will be? You think we'll be back at march level of fuckery?

>>19456222
god i was just thinking about this pic earlier today and laughing like a retard. thanks for posting it

>>19456150
>TSLA market cap bigger than all the other car manufacturers in the world combined
>hasn't made a single car yet

fuck this gay fucking earth clown world nigger lover hellscape

>>19456363

You’re a fag. There’s no second wave.

>>19456363
Not quite but it’ll be bad.

>>19456363
I think for the United states, 48 states never do a stay at home thing for coronavirus ever again. That being said there will be an increase in infection rate in the fall, no one cares anymore

>>19456363
Even if it was bad, we're not going to get a countrywide lockdown

>>19456363
I don't care, I just hope enough niggers die.

>>19456335
Buffett will be doing this shit until he’s dead and even then the guys in charge are hand picked by him. But i have no idea why you people think soros is still managing his money. He has people to do that now.

>>19456379
They’re being valued as an electronics company. That’ll crash if Telsa ever loses the edge in driverless cars and electric cars. Which could happen if other car companies actually start investing.

>>19455586
And cops are the ones that will arrest you and also be the ones taking your shit away.

>>19456161
plus ultra based and cosmically redpilled

>>19456415
well, the funds 13F is bearish af in comparison to the prior filing. the fund sold off like a third of its shit and went like 3% into bonds and utilities.

>>19456363
even if it is bad we won't see any real media reaction about it
this will become a "flu" reaction with click-bait articles discussing the "BAJILLIONS" that die

>>19456416
TSLA serves as a proxy for both SpaceX and the Elon personality cult. Perpetual 10% short interest also cushions nearly every potential fall. TA and FA are useless for this memestock. It is unironically a virtue signalling shitcoin.

>>19456421
Kys commie

>>19456379
>WOW, a company that produces cars has a higher market cap than all the companies that produce horse drawn wagons! Clearly the Henry Ford Motor Company is a bubble.

>>19456454
SPACE X IS A DIFFERENT FUCKING COMPANY ENTIRELY. GODDAMMIT I HATE YOU PEOPLE.

>>19456444
Checked
As they say, you only have to get rich once.

>>19456384
Do you have any evidence for this claim?

>>19456478
I am not disagreeing with you. None of the Tesla investors care.

>>19456416
FYI toyota has gone hard into driverless tech

>>19456168
i'm bullish since september, physical (hold forever) and paper sell at 1900ish, if strong then above 2000

>>19456314
Yes, you get all that taxed. Likely as ST as you prolly didn't hold for a year. You can net with losses to a limit.

A gain is a gain the IRS doesn't give a fuck if you cashed out into a different acvount or not and stonks don't qualify for "like kind" transaction exemption.

Exception being within roths.

>>19456252
The point is to pick dividend growth stocks and hold forever. In twenty years your yield on cost will be outrageous.

>>19456015
>The markets cannot be disconnected from reality forever
Dear ZoomZoom:
Markets have been disconnected from reality since 2007. The old adage is true; the market can stay irrational far, far longer than you can remain solvent.

>>19456502
toyota and vw are literally the only auto corps that are reasonable investments, tsla for spec tho

>>19456006
Imagine calling out tripfags the one time they're right. Dealing with China is economic poison

>tfw baby's first share on VSTO at $10.60
Hope I didn't fuck up and embarrass my noob ass.

Dollar cost averaging or buying the bottom?
But you never know when the bottom hits.

>>19456514
sir owning physical gold is against the law, please deposit it at your local rothschild donation bin and receive an equivalent value in paper money at a premium for your time, effort and compliance.

>>19456475
it's probably going to make a fuckton of money, but it's got like 15 years before it should hold an $800 valuation.
>inb4 muh forward & muh not reality
i know.

>>19456514
Physical silver or gold anon? I'm slowly accumulating GDX too, i don't think this PM shit is over by a long shot. commodities are in the dirt right now. You really think paper is stopping at 2k?

>>19456497
the fact that there was no first "wave"
shit was a flu and we locked down due to liberals being a gigantic block of hysterical karens

>>19456534
I don't want to get stuck in this same argument.
In short, divvy stocks should be thought of really as alternatives to T-Bills or T-Notes which really means they are alternative to bonds.

>>19455846
Stop

>>19456560
I think its cute that the TSE has a lunch break

I bought some AMRS because memes. Am I going to die?

>>19455727
I picked up a REIT called STORE (STOR) they do triple net leases, have really strong occupancy, and their payout ratio is very low for a REIT.

>>19456599
kek

>>19456006
>implying it's only tripfags
>implying you aren't retarded

>>19456569
I would have a dozen times the amount of money I have today if I simply practiced dollar cost averaging in the last eight weeks.

>>19456574
don't care, will hold till i have kids/grandkids anyway, if gov asks: it got stolen a while a go, f u

>>19456057
>literally branding yourself as a Tesla knockoff

wew

>>19456406

Nobody will tolerate it. These nigger riots are proof that we didn’t need a lockdown and the whites protesting it back in April were right.

Kek, my WFC stake has gained 15% for me.

>>19456569
There is just way too much evidence that "being fashionably late" will always outperform knife catching the bottom or knife catching with a different name like DCA.
But none of those apply to PnDs.

>>19456564
Thinking about it, I probably fucked up. I needed $11.6 to break even. Rip.

Reeeeee why won't GUSH NAIL and DFEN pump some more, I want to get green on them

>>19455489
Any easy picks I can throw $500.00 at and feel safe? Mostly have been buying REIT's on account of business re-openings.
$NNN is doing really great for me today, I got in around $28.00.
What is something I can just buy and forget? Mutual funds? I have been looking for an investment vehicle that I can just park money in for right now (in college) and not have to worry about it while making maybe 10% a year untaxed?
I am making my own thread, I just want to set and forget the money I am making in college and try my hand at swing trading when I know what I am doing better. But, I don't want to learn active investing right now.

>>19456502
Really? They should have the ability to catch up rather quickly

>>19456584
>Physical silver or gold anon
both, but no paper silver, only swing miners
>You really think paper is stopping at 2k?
Can't tell, but sure know that i will be tempted at selling at least 70%, the price could go higher depending on the strength of the rally, politics etc.

>>19455777
SpaceX and NASA canceled it out.

>>19455568
chuckles

Damn son my Marriott is mooning

>>19456229
>DXY might tell a different story. I don't know senpai.
A lot of gold bugs sell their gold in USD so your argument is invalid.

>>19456335
>kek. The first part of your post is right, but the middle and ending aren't. Institutions are in due to regulations and requirements or other motivations (Q3 earnings prep for many financials), not necessarily because they want to be there.
Q2 earnings may hit rock bottom but I think a lot of people are optimistic on Q3. We've also hit the bottom of unemployment which means that we'll see new hirings soon from companies that are reopening. Also airlines might recover from this so Buffett is not really thinking well on this one.

>The TINA argument is a cointoss, and I think it's off base unless Warren Buffet is actually braindead and George Soros is actually out of touch.
Q2 earnings report could still show a recovery despite everything closed down. Meanwhile, Buffett and Soros aren't doing anything, they have their slaves to do all the accounting. They're feeding insider info but that doesn't always mean that the info is correct. The strings are attached but not to the group they think they're controlling.

And by the way, you are still a retard AND a faggot.

>>19456569
DCA has been mathematically proven to be the best way to invest and the more frequent the better. I don't get what the point of just sitting around on cash is. Imagine being a bottom feeding bobo and you're just perpetually waiting around doing nothing because you keep thinking "oooh it's going to happen any day now" then it just doesn't. All the while the dips have come and gone and you're just sitting there with your depreciating asset (cash).

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>>19456667
lol you bought the top on all three? Im heavily green in DFEN rn

>>19456669
see
>>19455755
As a student, you could park that in a Roth IRA. You can't deduct it from taxes but earnings grow tax free. What you put in can be withdrawn at any time but any earnings will face penalties until you are 59.5
If you are Euro, I have no idea what you'd look at.

So if I have only 1 PFE share (huge number, I know) and they give each shareholder 0.12 shares of Viatris per PFE share, how much Viatris shares do I get? Do I even get anything at that point? Or does my broker somehow give me a fraction of a share?

My shit is mooning midday , I ignored the fuck out of the advice here and picked winners.

>>19456724
That's what I did during march and april. DCA. My long term holdings. 60+ years I hope.

>>19456669
>safe
>10% a year
You are going to have to pick one as nothing is guaranteed at those yeilds. That said, just pick a Vanguard etf with a balanced profile (growth/dividend) and forget about it.

>>19456724
https://jlcollinsnh.com/2014/11/12/stocks-part-xxvii-why-i-dont-like-dollar-cost-averaging/
DCA loses to fashionably late.

Accumulate NNBR
>>19456730
I bought Thursday when anon said to, my work schedule didn't allow for me to wake up in time for Thursday or Friday close. So I may have. But I figure better to just hold a month or two if needed than realize any unneeded loss

>>19456229
>DXY might tell
the dollar vs gold trade is over, dollar doesnt have to drop for gold to rise

>>19456725
Shill me

>>19456675
we'll see, google for example has a MASSIVE head start, better access to high quality engineers, and more fluid capital. But Toyota has the factories and car line to back it up in reality, plus the country of Japan on board.

>>19456770
I was kidding about DFEN, its a long hold and its going way up over the next 2-3 years

Bought some PFE calls. Seems like a good time. Bad news on a prominent company that won't be affected

Or at least I hope so oh god give me confirmation

this thread is hard to read on nofap
fucking hell

>>19456725
-24% today, nice try m8

>index hugely overvalued
>rioting across the country
>massive unemployment
>shit economic data
>virus still running rampant
>political instability

>GREEN LINE GO UP LOL

>>19456757
I heard Dave Ramsey saying something about mutual funds yielding 10% a year if you pick the right one. There are mutual funds that consistently have beaten markets for a very long time. Does anyone know about this?

>>19456801
I dont buy penny stocks but usually you buy when prices are low

NVDA or AMD

>>19456803
Stop thinking you're smarter than the market.

>>19456669
>>19456757
What this anon has said. You want appreciation, you want safe, you don't want to deep dive in 10ks, and you don't want to pay taxes on it this year.
But an index ETF & come back to the market some years from now when you have the time for it.

>>19456804
Mutual funds lose to index funds and its only been getting worse over time. In particular the expense ratios make them fight an uphill battle while mutual fund managers that might have beaten the market in the past may charge even higher expense ratios.

>>19456798
nofap is a shill

>>19456717
>>19456771
>A lot of gold bugs sell their gold in USD so your argument is invalid.
it has to do with the global economy. canada and europe are printing stimulus much faster than the USA. if the dollar is weakening against other currencies... I don't know. It's really just disconcerting all around.

>Q2 earnings may hit rock bottom but I think a lot of people are optimistic on Q3
They are, and you're right, i think. I'm suspecting that financials are cooking up Q3 numbers to look good and that's part of the push up in prices. What happens after those earnings, I'm not sure. Either way, a lot of the pushing doesn't have much to do with retail.
>We've also hit the bottom of unemployment
We're yet to see, but unemployment is a leading indicator due to the nature of the shutdown. Upon reopening, we might see more layoffs or a stable flow in and out of unemployment (U6, not U1 and U2) due to actual slowdown - the typical lagging indication for unemployment.
>Q2 earnings report could still show a recovery despite everything closed down
for some sectors yes
>Buffett and Soros aren't doing anything
you know what I meant. C'mon senpai. their funds, whatever. I addressed this above.

PS: you're still a double faggot

>>19456173
And that makes Zoom make money because...????

Any germans here ? How is that France 40 is up 1.5% and DAX30 is down 1.65% aren't those two index intertwined ?

is sneed a better meme than bane?

>>19456804
Get SWPPX. Tracks the S&P 500. No min amount required (other than $50.00) Low fee 0.03. and pays out a divvy once a year. (0.86) Which you can reinvest or get dumped into your account.

>>19456857
Short sneed, long bane

Serious question. How hard is it to make just $100 a day trading stocks on the side of my WFH? Not looking for moon missions but an extra 1K-2k a month wouldn't be awful.

>>19456725
didn't i tell you to fuck off with this pajeet-named shit yesterday when you were shilling it?
even if it is based in PA
pic related: shit like that gets shilled here all the time

>>19456798

>>19456563
>>19456613
I’m not saying he’d be good for the us or that I don’t want to stick it to China. I’m saying uncertainty and tariffs are bad for the equity market.

Yes the tax cuts and deregulation have been good for stock prices, but the uncertainty is cancer.

>>19456840
Fuckin saved
Damn I wanna milk that cow

>>19456867
depends on how much money you have. if $100 is about 0.5%, you can do it ez.

>>19456584
It trades at 70 times forward p/e, which is bad, but the average for the S&P is 20, down from 30 pre-crash. TSLA doesn't really deserve all the shit talking that it gets by people who missed out and now have sour grapes about it, they are one of the few companies that has a bright future hence the premium people are willing to pay.

>>19456867
depends on capital, 100 on 5k is easy, 100 on 1000 not so much

>>19456746
Guys I really need help with this, a whole lot of my 35 bucks depend on it. Where can I at least read about this kind of share distributions?

>>19455982
This is poor bait

>>19456867
Easy enough now with the high volatility if you have enough capital (and get lucky not to lose too often), will get harder and harder though

>>19456891
>>19456897

I have about 6k total in my TDA account but only $800 of that is cash. I could def. pump more money in if I thought it was realistic which it sounds like it is for you guys at least.

>>19456897
How do you make 100 on 5k every day?

>>19456852
DAX was closed today for some reason so it's still last week's numbers.

>>19456901
how?

GAS THE KIKES

>>19456927
Ah, didn't know that thanks.

>>19456920

Fuckin damn.

>>19456767
I'm reading the article now and I already see flawed logic because A) you need a windfall of money for his example to even work under very specific conditions B) the time lapse is only 1 year (lol) C) it's failing to take into account the daily ups and downs. The stock market is a drama queen and little things can send it down for a day but then up for 3 and vice versa. We don't know how long the lows or the highs will last. DCA allows us to take the guess work out which we will probably get wrong anyway. Time in the market beats timing the market and id rather someone get their money to work than let it just set around where it will be tempting to spend it on dumb shit.

>>19456895
You can't look at one stat and go "Oh well, that's not a good buy". AMD has been at a ridiculous p/e for what feels like a decade and yet keeps on blasting

>>19456867
In the current market, with a max risk about $6k, I make approximately $300 a day on average. In a normal market that would drop to about $50 on the same risk:reward basis (but since the market is not as volatile I have a lower risk:reward, thus maintain approx $100 a day).

>>19456840
WE ARE COMING FOR YOU PARASITIC KIKES. YOUR JEWISH BLOODLINES WILL BE ERADICATED AND FORGOTTEN. HEIL HITLER

>>19456861
The thing with mutual funds v.s etf is that your whole dollar investment is used. So you dump $100 into the fund it's used right then. V.S that same 100 won't get you VTI ETF so it sits in your account till you toss another 100 into it. Then when you finally buy VTI you end up with some left over cash cause 1 share of VTI don't cost $200. Meanwhile while your waiting the market is moving up/down costing you gains. Cause during dips that $100 would buy you more thus on upswings you'd get more gains.

>>19456957
>We don't know how long the lows or the highs will last.
soon(tm)

>>19456920
BOOBIES!!!!

>>19456804
The fees are what kill you dude. Your actively managed fund with a 10% YoY return looks dumb when you lose 4% in fees.
If you want a low expense and actively managed fund pick up VDIGX. If you want something less risk averse just manage your own with fewer stocks.

>>19456804
Mutual funds and etfs are essentially the same thing, collections of assets/equities. ETF's have the flexibility of being bought and sold at any time on the exchange during market hours. Mutual funds otoh are actively managed, have higher expenses and higher minimum purchase requirements. By "yeild" he is probably referring to both the growth of the equities and the dividends reinvested into the fund (DRIP).
The consistent 10%+ is true for most broad ETFs in the last 5 years as well, but the exception (market crash) applies to both etfs and mutual funds.

HOLY FUCK AMRS AAAAAAAA

WE ARE COMING FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN SEMITES

>>19456900
They'll probly just give you cash equivalent to 0.12 shares of Viatris.

>>19456968
If I truly knew how to do that and I'm sure it is completely possible, I would dump 6k into my trading account right now.

Unfortunately, I haven't day traded enough to do anything of the sort. Guess I'll just wagecuck forever.

>>19456804
>There are mutual funds that consistently have beaten markets for a very long time.
Really? Because every single research publication says the exact opposite: not a single mutual fund manages to even match s&p500 even before fees.

SEIG HEIL

>>19457021
>>19457021
>>19457021
>>19457021
new thread

>>19456840
>>19456883
I will never jack off to your disgusting 3dpd whores you retarded simps
I was talking about the anime

>>19456747
>mooning
You're retarded. Should swap those airlines for SKYW

>>19456957
To "DCA" properly you have to pick a time horizon. That is timing the market. For a bull market it makes no sense for precisely as that article notes. It's just that people usually can't or won't be able to put more than a set amount every month but that is not for DCA purposes.
For a crash, it will win every time. You do not know the extent of the dip or of the recovery. However it is much easier (though still difficult and prone to error) to have seen the dip pass you rather than predict the bottom.

so is it time to put a stop limit? I'm still worried about the volatility thoughly oddly enough the riots on retail stores aren't affecting my REITs much.
the last 4 times I put a stop limit have just fucked me over on getting +20% profits literally within a couple weeks (granted those were in the weed sector)

>>19457022
/pol/ is that way

>>19457016
So I'm basically rich. Okay, thank you.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1792044/000119312519313909/d781435dex991.htm - they have this shit, but it's just too much to read for the estate I put into their stock.

>>19456995
Indeed
Thanks tripfag for the hint

>>19456995
I'm finally in the green with AMRS again after buying at 3.77. Thinking about dumping these 220 shares. Thoughts?

>portfolio is approaching half a mil
I'm thinking about taking $100k out and trying my hand at homesteading. Live cheap, raise cattle and chickens, just let the rest of the portfolio slowly grow for the next 30 years.

>>19457018
Dump $6k into your account but make $10 trades repeatedly. After no less than a week and hopefully at least 100 trades, evaluate your win rate and your profit when winning vs loss when losing. Use these stats to assess your average return and compute acceptable risk based on this. From there, increase your position slightly and reevaluate until you reach your risk goal.
Also consider opening a paper trading account (almost all brokers have one) that allows you to try trading using fake money. It's not quite the same things because it doesn't account for things like slippage and delays, though many brokers simulate these mechanisms, and it'll get your feet wet.

>>19457093
Also you need at least $25k in the account to actually be able to daytrade (doesn't mean you need to put all $25k into stock on any one day).

>>19457093
Thanks anon. I'll play around with the 800 in cash I have not invested in my TDA account and make some $10 trades. If I have some success after awhile, I will dump more in.

>>19456930
If you got $11 of dividends and are in the 0% tax bracket you wouldn't pay tax...

>>19457132
Dividend is not capital gains. Different tax treatments. That said I'm not saying there is tax on $11 of dividend.

>>19457068
Based. Wish I could do the same, but land is expensive in my country.

>>19455943
upvoted

>pandemic with 1million and counting death toll
>Business are in shambles and aren't even making a profit
>Riots and complete civil unrest
>No hope of any of this changing with in the near to mid-term future
>...........
>All time highs
Not even a bear, this is just an absolute marvel to witness.

>>19456845
stocks go up

>>19457340
except that nothing you said is true besides the death toll. Guess what bitch, millions of people die every day

>>19457340
This. It's also why I took advantage of the nonsense. Question is, when do I bail? Last ones left bagholding will likely hold usd equivalent to Zimbabwean dollars