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A long time ago. But lost the path. Am trying to jump back on now

>>19434679
A few years ago when I read meditations. The best book ever written for every aspect of life.

t. Prop trader for 7 years

Stoicism is babies first non biblical moral philosophy. Too detatched for me personally. A philosophy that says I shouldnt feel sadness when a family member is murdered is not for me.

>>19434919
I prefer The Enchiridion because it's more easy to read, although if you read some stoic books, Medidations makes more sense afterwards

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>>19434954
>Stoicism is babies first non biblical moral philosophy.

>ignore the external world
>never validate what you do

>>19436003
this

>>19434954
but that's hedonism anon.

>>19436003
thats just being a pessimist

stoicism is about taking life as it comes, always prepared for the worst so as not to be over emotional about everything

You desire to LIVE "according to Nature"? Oh, you noble Stoics, what fraud of words! Imagine to yourselves a being like Nature, boundlessly extravagant, boundlessly indifferent, without purpose or consideration, without pity or justice, at once fruitful and barren and uncertain: imagine to yourselves INDIFFERENCE as a power--how COULD you live in accordance with such indifference? To live--is not that just endeavoring to be otherwise than this Nature? Is not living valuing, preferring, being unjust, being limited, endeavouring to be different? And granted that your imperative, "living according to Nature," means actually the same as "living according to life"--how could you do DIFFERENTLY? Why should you make a principle out of what you yourselves are, and must be? In reality, however, it is quite otherwise with you: while you pretend to read with rapture the canon of your law in Nature, you want something quite the contrary, you extraordinary stage-players and self-deluders! In your pride you wish to dictate your morals and ideals to Nature, to Nature herself, and to incorporate them therein; you insist that it shall be Nature "according to the Stoa," and would like everything to be made after your own image, as a vast, eternal glorification and generalism of Stoicism! With all your love for truth, you have forced yourselves so long, so persistently, and with such hypnotic rigidity to see Nature FALSELY, that is to say, Stoically, that you are no longer able to see it otherwise-- and to crown all, some unfathomable superciliousness gives you the Bedlamite hope that BECAUSE you are able to tyrannize over yourselves--Stoicism is self-tyranny--Nature will also allow herself to be tyrannized over: is not the Stoic a PART of Nature? . . .
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>>19436892
But this is an old and everlasting story: what happened in old times with the Stoics still happens today, as soon as ever a philosophy begins to believe in itself. It always creates the world in its own image; it cannot do otherwise; philosophy is this tyrannical impulse itself, the most spiritual Will to Power, the will to "creation of the world," the will to the causa prima.
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>>19436892
TL;DR

I have constant nightmares and daytime-nightmares because my dad it's a paranoid schizo and I think some of it leaked into my head. Stoicism is natural for me because I see the worst things happen constantly.

>>19434954
this, read Aristotle you stupid plebs

the very first opening paragraph of the Enchiridion is already ideological stupidity.
> if you suppose that only to be your own which is your own, and what belongs to others such as it really is, then no one will ever compel you or restrain you. Further, you will find fault with no one or accuse no one. You will do nothing against your will. No one will hurt you, you will have no enemies, and you not be harmed.
Wrong.

>>19436892