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Is there a single exchange that doesn't require me to upload my whole genome sequence in order to buy and exchange DECENTRALIZED and ANONYMOUS shitcoins? Why do I have to use a CashTerminal to buy Monero just to flip it to something else?
Why the hell do exchanges require a fucking account when I can use Metamask. This is not security, these are fucking hoops one has to jump through. I have a pre-paid debit card with fiat. I use it to buy the shitcoin of my choosing giving them the deposit address, I then use this address to load the balance on the exchange of my choosing. All of this can easily be done in Metamask or any other wallet app.

>> No.19384655

>>19384640
Huh?
I've been using binance since 2017 and they don't even know my name

You must be American

>> No.19384737

>>19384640
Bisq
Localbitcoins
find a vendor on bitcointalk

>> No.19384806

>>19384655
Our buns are getting a bit burnt at the moment. Hopefully we don't char beyond medium-well before figuring out how to handle this kosher sandwich.

>> No.19384815

>>19384640
Have you taken a look at Uniswap.exchange?

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>>19384806
forgot to post webm

>> No.19384882

>>19384815
Not yet, but I'm checking them one at a time. Binance won't let me do shit without 2fa. I don't have a place to buy burner phone and I don't like giving it to anyone.

>> No.19385069

You can use Nash

As long as you don't need to trade more than 1k per day no KYC needed, just an email to make an account (and it's based on smart contracts, so no way for them to steal your coins <- real btc trading is available too)

>> No.19385210

>>19385069
No nano on it all. I got 1 nano when the oldfag was giving them away. It shows up on exodus but not in metamask. How do I actually use this shitcoin? I want to test out how this shit works before I start investing.

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19385319

>>19385210
Disregard post figured it out.

>> No.19385343

>>19384640

That's literally the new Orion exchange you're describing. It launches early July. Their website is orionprotocol.io

>> No.19385435

https://tornado.cash/ to mix your eth
Then for trading there's uniswap, loopring, forekdelta, bamboo relay, etc.
Also look up "localmonero, localbitcoin, etc."
The main snags are fiat on-ramps and converting between blockchains (because kyc-less dexs run on ethereum)

>> No.19385452

>>19385435
>forekdelta
forkdelta*

>> No.19385664

>go to binance
>deposit the 1 nano you had
>get the 1 nano
>want to withdraw it
>0.1 nano tax
>fuckingniggers.io
>sms code verification
>anti phishing code
>email confirmation
>want to use binance to buy something
>same shit
>before making an acc 30 quid to buy something with visa
>now have to use simplex and drop a minimum of 100 orbs since there is no other option
Taking out a 3rd mortgage is more convenient than using binance.

>>19385343
Gonna use if it's really that good.

>> No.19385800 [DELETED] 

>>19384640
BUY ETH WITH METAMASK

>> No.19385814

>>19384882
You don't need a phone for 2fa

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19385906

>>19385814
This is what I see on nearly every exchange I've tried to use. Bamboo on the other hand outright refuses to acknowledge my metamask extension. This amount of meme security borders on infantile. All I need is intermediary wallet that will get pluged everywhere.

>> No.19385977

>>19385906
You can use a program called Authy instead and the 2FA code will work.
https://authy.com/download/

>> No.19386081

>>19385906
You don't need a phone for Google Auth, it's just that it is the most commonly used program for otp.
You can use any other otp program since it's standardized, I believe KeepassXC handles it and it's an excellent open-source password manager.

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19386216

>>19386081
>>19385977
>password manager
>3rd party programs written by chinks and who knows what else to store your passwords, codes, auth keys and what not
This is shit opsec.

>> No.19386242

>>19386216
Code it yourself then, otherwise you'll have to rely on code written by someone else.

>> No.19386260

>>19384882
using a burner phone for 2fa is retarded anyway.

the idea of a burner phone is that you can toss it anytime and its not a big deal.

>> No.19386299

>>19386216
Shut up retard, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. At least do a google search to avoid making a fool of yourself.

>> No.19386331
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19386331

>>19386299
>I like all my passwords and bank details on a cloud located in the ass end of the world and I will feel secure knowing they use encryption
Neck yourself normie. Go use nordVPN thinking you're secure.

>> No.19386411

>>19386331
Yeak keep making a fool of yourself. As I said you have no idea what you're talking about. You're a clueless Dunning Kruger normie that probably can't write a single line of code (and no, HTML or CSS don't count).
Just so you understand, there is no cloud, it's all storred locally in an encrypted (AES256) file.
It would have taken you 15 seconds to figure this out and you should already kbow this because KeepassXC is the most popular password manager among non-tech illiterate people.

>> No.19386444

ive spent ~500 on coinbase how fucked am i?

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>>19386411
>unironically uses Dunning Kruger
>has a hardon for password managers
>muh encrypted file that's at worst a few hundred kb
>normies use it so it must be good
>there's no way the secretly send it anywhere
>they'd tell me if they did
>I don't check outbound traffic because I trust the devs
You also save your payment details for easy and quick purchases, don't you?

>> No.19386533

>>19386510
He's too far gone, just consider him dead and move on
He probably has pictures of himself on social media (using his real name)

>> No.19386600

>>19386533
He's gonna pretend to be retarded, I just know it.

>> No.19386739

>>19386510
You probably don't even know what a CPU is to be able to write so many stupid shit.
Why do you assume I don't check outbound traffic? Why do you assume no one does? Again, if you took 15 seconds to search it and 1 minute to try it on your own you'd know there is no outbound traffic, or you wouldn't have to do any of this because KeepassXC is the most popular password manager.
Clueless normies like you are the worst, you probably browse facebook daily through a firefox incognito tab while using a password with 15bits of entropy pretending you're a L33T haxor because you use Ubuntu.

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>>19386739
>refuse to use a password manager of any kind
>Clueless normies
>KeepassXC is the most popular password manager and I trust it with all my info
You know what? You pass the test. Send me your private key so I can deposit 1 ETH in it. You've earned it.

>> No.19387119

>>19387020
There is nothing to trust retard, you really have no clue what you're talking about, it's fascinating how some normies can feel so smug while having no clue what they're talking about.
Keep being an arrogant idiot instead of actually putting work into what you want to achieve.

>> No.19387323

>>19387119
Your seed phrase is in KeepassXC isn't it?

>> No.19387527

>>19387119
Nigger you legit trust your fucking password to third parties you have no right to argue anything here.

>> No.19387529

>>19387323
You're embarrassing yourself lol.

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>>19387529
>You're embarrassing yourself lol.
>lol
>keeps his passwords, bank details seed phrase, private key and wallet password including all his exchange account login info 2fas in a password manager and trusts it because it's popular
>you're embarrassing yourself
>lol

>> No.19387616

I store my passwords in .txt files on a veracrypt drive
I've come to the realization that it might be insecure since windows potentially stores some temp data when I interact with the .txt file, or when I compress stuff inside with 7z

anyone has suggestions what to do? I don't trust password managers
Ideally I want this data completely irrecoverable (without the password) if the PC is unplugged

>> No.19387633

>>19387616
Use paper wallet and memorize things.

>> No.19387644
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19387644

>>19384640
Phemex bro. No KYC whatsoever, friendly to burgers, you can trade with up to 100x leverage and they're constantly adding more trading pairs.

>> No.19387753

>>19386331
What vpn do you recommend? Was thinking about nordvpn but I really don’t trust it.

>> No.19387782

>>19387616
bleachbit helps

>> No.19387802

>>19387616
>anyone has suggestions what to do?
Ideally you should stop being a normie Dunning Kruger faggot and use KeepassXC to store everything since it's the most popular password manager that normies use.
If you have a working brain you can also write it down on pen and paper somewhere then make up your own letters or use some esoteric script you can find online. Transpose it to your native language or a language you use phonetically and leave hanging on the wall. Or maybe try one of those rings with letters and numbers.

>> No.19387824

>>19384818
look at the monkeys

>> No.19387825

>>19387753
I recommend wiretapping your neighbor's internet.

>> No.19387834

>>19387527
No I don't trust anything to third parties, that's the entire point of that thing retard.
What it does is generate a random high entropy passphrase and encrypts it.

You could write your own scripts to do the same thing with pass or even write everything from scratch but why bother when an established FOSS program with thousands of contributors and easily auditable code that does the same thing already exists. There is no point in reinventing the wheel unless you've got time to waste.

>> No.19387878

>>19387782
>BleachBit includes advanced features such as shredding files to prevent recovery
now that's cash money

this seems good but I don't think it's a real long term solution
I thought of growing up and moving to linux for full disk encryption which is probably what I'll have to do eventually

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19387909

>>19387834
>I don't trust my passwords to 3rd parties
>I just trust my passwords to 3rd parties that tell me it's encrypted
>the encryption algorithm is there for everyone to see

>> No.19387980

>>19387909
You must be trolling. It uses AES and it's there for everyone else to see, that's the point of FOSS. You could have looked it up yourself even with your 2 digits IQ.

>> No.19388006

>>19387802
>Transpose it to your native language or a language you use phonetically and leave hanging on the wall. Or maybe try one of those rings with letters and numbers.
I'm already protected against simple thieves, but not if I'm targeted and the assailants know exactly what to look for. They'll crack this puzzle in no time.

Oh, you're joking?...

>> No.19388056

>>19387980
No point of arguing with a brainlet like you keep using your shit password managers until they all get dumped online

>> No.19388148

>>19387802
You're an idiot. When using FOSS popularity is a good thing not because it's cool to use the same thibg as everyone else but because there will be a big number of contributors, lots of PR and issues will be solved. The more popular a FOSS program is the better, that's basic knowledge and anyone who every wrote a single line of code knows this.

>>19388056
It can't be dumped online by design idiot, unless you have physical access to my machine and can crack AES256 you won't have access to my passwords.
Even if I don't store the encrypted passwords on an air gapped machine and you somehow get access to it you'd still have to crack an AES256 encrypted file which unless you've got a quantum cumputer and years to wait isn't happening.

>> No.19388191

>>19384818
she's 30 years old, can walk, and was stabbing people. She truly represents america. the protector of Walmart

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19388197

>>19388006
I'm actually dead serious. I was joking about the password manager part. You have to be retarded to trust your shit to one of those.

>>19387644
withdrawal wants google authenticatior

>>19388006
Go and use your chink foss password manager in peace, lad. I literally cannot help you see the error of your ways of using a password manager just because it's popular. May the Omnisiah have mercy on your soul.

>>19388148
>he trusts his security to the most popular thing
You'd probably suck a dick if there's enough peer pressure too. Lemming.

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>>19388148
>It can't be dumped online by design idiot, unless you have physical access to my machine and can crack AES256 you won't have access to my passwords.
Even if I don't store the encrypted passwords on an air gapped machine and you somehow get access to it you'd still have to crack an AES256 encrypted file which unless you've got a quantum cumputer and years to wait isn't happening.

>> No.19388228

Does anybody know how exchanges care about associated addresses? Like if you move your gambling coins through a couple addresses and then to an exchange do they give a shit?

>> No.19388243

>>19388197
3rd response is meant for >>19387980

>> No.19388253

>>19388197
>I'm actually dead serious. I was joking about the password manager part. You have to be retarded to trust your shit to one of those.
Anon, you're not supposed to run your own security. It's a mistake.
I literally stated that I don't trust password managers >>19387616
But keeping a puzzle on a wall that has access to everything, is retarded. You're underage.

>> No.19388291

>>19388253
>But keeping a puzzle on a wall that has access to everything, is retarded
Not of you have notebooks full of esoteric writtings and on your wall as well.

>> No.19388314

>>19388291
It's still retarded, giving any kind of hint to your password is absolutely moronic. I'm not trying to craft a fun puzzle for a point and click video game here.

>> No.19388316

Just pay your taxes, you cringey incels. You all have low ambitions if you think you're gonna get away with not paying taxes. Anyone who is in this to make serious gains (millions), is only worried about tax minimization, not evasion. Grow up.

>> No.19388352

>>19388197
Reading comprehension is hard I guess.
It has nothing to do about peer pressure or "oh gosh look guys I'm wearing these Brand™ shoes just like everyone it's so awesooooome".
Popularity with FOSS matters because the more people audit the code the better. What software would you trust more, one that has been a standard for years and has hundreds of contributors with regular pentesting and is auditted by thousands of people or one with two contributors from India?

Also, you don't know what it does. It's bot a software that stores your password in some random database in China hashed with SHA1. It's a softaware that generates random high entropy passphrases and encrypts them with AES256. That's why it's what people autistic about opsec use it, because it's the most secure way of doing things. You could use a script to generate a passphrase of 45 characters everytime you need a password and then writing it down in a notebook that you store in a safe but it's essebtially the same thing.

>> No.19388359

Qubes-whonix installation and run everything through chained tor sessions. Fuck the police.

>> No.19388405

>>19388352
It's even less secure doing it the notebook wah because it is much much easier to break into a safe than it is to break AES.

>> No.19388432

TradeOgre is KYC free

>> No.19388442

flame.exchange has no kyc

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>>19388314
>decide to rob a cracker for money and crypto wallet passwords
>go through the window
>see esoteric shit written on the walls in what appears to be dried blood
>see something that looks like a prayer to Satan himself
You gonna continue sifting around or would you fuck off immedietly?

>>19388352
>I don't trust things because they're popular
>but I trust them because they're popular

>That's why it's what people autistic about opsec use it,
the last thing anyone from /tech/ would use is a password manager.
You're a nigger.

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19388467

You can buy 149usd worth of Crypto on Lumi wallet with no kyc, 0xMonero is integrated there.

>> No.19388484

>>19388458
>You gonna continue sifting around or would you fuck off immedietly?
That's a good point but cryptography beats intimidation any day, and this really wouldn't frighten a professional.

I think you're just funposting at this point so I'll leave you to it.

Guess I'll have to install linux with full disk encryption to feel safe.

>> No.19388489

>>19388432
>exchanges monero
Good.

>> No.19388491

>>19384640
https://stakecube.net/app/exchange

>> No.19388508

>>19384640
Hotbit, nigger

> mfw hotbit(dot)io/register(questionmark)ref(equals)643745

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>>19388197
Underage B& or completely retarded. An anon just BTFO’d you regarding how FOSS and AES256 works and all you can counter argue is the same circular reasoning about some cloud and dumping when the code is open source, hence why other people use it lmao.

This is worst than GHOST shills

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19388621

>>19388514
>(1)
>IP hopping already
By all means, btfo me as well about the opsec success of using password managers.

>> No.19388880

>>19388621
Nah I’m just another anon scratching my head at your defense. If all your replies were in fact b8 they are truly kink though really rustled my autism as a cyber security analyst

>> No.19388911

>>19388197
>withdrawal wants google authenticatior
If this is an issue, why not use a burner phone?

>> No.19388971

>>19388911
google authenticator is an otp generator completely identity-less offline 2fa mechanism.

>> No.19388999

>>19388197
>>19388911
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_One-time_Password_algorithm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Authenticator
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4226

brainlets

>> No.19389156

>>19388999
Fine, so it's not an issue then (I've personally never had a problem using 2FA so I don't see why this guy would).

>> No.19389197

>>19387825
Too obvious and the MAC address can easily be traced. Nice bait tho

>> No.19389305

>>19389197
the MAC can also easily be changed

>> No.19390174

>>19389156
it's the best and least invasive kind of 2fa humanly possible that gives you real security anonymity and independence from a provider. i'm surprised that google did it as well it's a pretty simple app.