/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for Jesus.

Why are you even discussing individual companies?
Don't you know about factor investing?

Actual research suggests time and time again that buying and holding low expense broad market ETFs is the rational decision.

Factors explain more than 95% of performance difference between diversified portfolios

You can increase your exposure to factor risks by buying smallcaps instead of large caps and increase your return by buying on margin but anything beyond that (identifying value stocks, momentum, volatility) requires a professional commitment for marginally higher returns

For non-professionals putting everything into SPY or a smallcap equivalent should be about it honestly. Doing anything else means that on average you are lowering your ROI

Bobo is (not) ok.

299 broken. 300 tomorrow and 310 by EoW. Fuck you all.

SP500 300c

>>19326976
>>19326977
we're still only at 2989
party hats on standby

BOBO ARE YOU OKAY? BOBO ARE YOU OKAY? BOBO ARE YOU OKAY? BOBO ARE YOU OKAY? BOBO ARE YOU OKAY? BOBO ARE YOU OKAY? BOBO ARE YOU OKAY? BOBO ARE YOU OKAY? BOBO ARE YOU OKAY?

>>19326951
because my neetbux for gambling came after the march firesale so now I'm focusing on specific sectors that are still battered down but have reasonable risk and future prospects

>>19327015
Where can i see this

>>19326951
hi anon can you give example of etf that can give me 26k gains like i did playing tesla earnings
thanx a lot

Im rich

>>19326921
We gonna crab this week too? Or we gonna pump finally?

>>19327042
the futures link in the OP

>>19326951
Even if you wanted ETFs, why wouldn't you just pick the best 5 best companies out of an ETF instead of buying the entire portfolio?

Someone please tell me I’m going to make it.

what are the best combination of TA indicators, and why? what sort of risk/reward do you guys generally use?

>>19327049
Futures certainly expecting a serious attempt at party hats Tuesday.

>>19327079
>what are the best combination of TA indicators, and why
This depends on what you trade and what timeframe you want to trade it. Do your own testing.

>>19327040
>>19327043
Put everything on red 10 times for an easy 102400% return
What's so hard about >on average?

>>19327072
That's stock picking. On average you lose against SPY.

>>19326951
ETF/Funds are perfect if you have a long time to go till you need the money they generate. But if your trying to reach a goal only a few years away then they're outta the question. Stocks (or options) are your only choices. Unless your wanting to uh work yourself to death.

>>19327122
i'd be fine with being given some examples, at least. especially what sort of strats you guys are personally working with.

>>19327073
carr is good but will go down in short term
fsly samething, a bit too extended tho
pd is right on resistance

>>19327079
pic related

Now that we have finally come through the crisis and everything is gradually opening up again, so the economy is also flourishing, I have tried to save as much money as possible to invest. Unfortunately, I am a student with a low income, I managed to scrape together 2.5k eur. I would like to use this as seed capital to invest in a portfolio or 1/2 companies max, depends on the strategy.

Since this is relatively little money compared to the average investor who makes good money from dividend payments, im would like to focus on a stock that is trading low. Preferably between 5 and 10 dollars. I looked at some oil stocks where I noticed HAL and MRO.

I am not afraid of volatility as I would like to hold a stock for 1 to 2 years max and then take a new position.

Do you /smg/ have some stocks in mind for me? Stocks above 5/10$ are also welcome if they are lucrative.

I’m a depressed kid 20s STEM guy hating my life. I hate the USA and want to move to Europe with my dual citizenship and live a care free NEET life. I have $65k in my savings, what can I invest in or yolo in order to try to turn that 65k into 200k

>>19327165
>pic related

what is this and how do i do it/use it to make money?

>>19327132
>On average you lose against SPY.

Everything is stock picking. If you pick SPY you are picking based on market cap.

since USD is global currency does that mean fed printing money will cause global inflation?

>>19327049

Green Monday crab down and up and down all week again. It’ll be like this for a while you can tell by this pattern and volume being so down that nobody has any faith right now investors are nervous and this won’t change anytime soon probably not til after the election.

>>19327197
STNG stock. buy and hold. Or BA if you are edgy.

>>19327197
what are you gonna do if you lose that 65k or at least a lot of it? kys?

>>19327199
minimum risk reward to break even. say its 1:2 and you are right 50% of the time (25% for break even) then you will be profitable over time

>>19327197
Oh you just want to triple your money risk free that's easy just

>>19327138
>or options
That's leverage. Options have an implied cost for capital.
You can also buy calls on indices. For example my holdings are primarily S&P500, Nasdaq-100, TQQQ and calls on them
I expect a >100% ROI in a few years as well but without the inherent risk of any one particular company fucking up
I also hold Microsoft, Alphabet, Google, Boeing and RDS for gambling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViTnIebSzj4

>>19327199
The left column is how often you are right about a bet you are making.

The right column is how profitable your bets should be in order for you to succeed.

Eg. if you can only get it right 25% of the time, you can succeed by only picking bets that have a 3x payoff or better.

The more accurate you are, the less payoff you need to succeed.

FUTURES ARE OPEN?? BUT IT'S MEMORIAL DAY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GRILL BURGERS AND SALUTE THE HECKIN USA FLAG TODAY

Not a single bobo in the /smg/ threads. See you at the top boys. Now we can finally enjoy the green days.

>>19327222
Tomorrow green for indexes. Drop and crab after that.

>>19327138
Me, I'm trying to stuff a years salary in the bank before I turn 40 in 3 years. Now I could do this either by cutting my long term retirement contributions down which would fuck me long term or by getting another job which would frankly eat into my "free time" way to much and prob kill me due to lack of sleep. So doing short term stock trades is perfect. I'd keep my time, I'd get my sleep, and I'd keep my long term retirement intact.

>>19327152
I have personally tested the 3 bar play and found that when applied correctly it has extremely high success rate. The only problem is finding the setup before it happens.
Currently I use Chande Momentum Oscillator on a 30m timescale. I noticed there are support and resistance levels on it that are extremely robust. Exploiting this, I enter a trade when the resistance and the support that was broken on the previous way down are both passed, and I exit when chande bounces off a resistance and goes below the previous support level.
I'm still experimenting the find the optimal amount of candles to use and the optimal timeframe, but so far I'm getting an almost perfect winrate with an average return over 3%. Average trade duration is just under 1d. I just need to scale up my position and figure out the implied risk so I can correctly assess my R:R.
This strategy works best on high-volume stock, I only trade if the price is between $5 and $50 and there's at least 500k normal volume. Moreover I use relative volume to screen for potential hits and then look for chande almost hitting the previous resistance. When it goes through, I buy in.
Another example that works well for low-value high-volume stocks (e.g. pennystocks) is triangles and wedges. I have only tested it a little bit because I don't trust pennystocks, but that seems to be fairly stable.

>>19327263
NOT SO FAST

>>19327285
I'm so sorry.

>>19327049
What do you exactly mean with pump?

SPY new high today. DAX gained nearly 3% today?

Do you wanna see double digits on the indices?

>>19327209
More importantly it's a diversified portfolio, meaning you capture exposure to general market risk

If you only buy tech on top of general market risk, you add risk for that sector (while the market in general is doing fine)
if you only Microsoft you again add the risk of that particular company failing for whatever reason (while tech in general is doing fine)

You can also buy your own diversified portfolio without an ETF but you would have to care about periodically selling/buying to readjust your portfolio

What do you guys think about Dr. Burrys prediction that ETFs and index funds are in a bubble?

This is the guy who predicted the '08 mortgage collapse and the guy that The Big Short was made after.

>>19327177
Mid range oil stocks are your best bet IMO. Mortgage REITS (residential) are a good longterm investment too as long as you look at the best ones.

>>19327285
My deepes condolences to you, fucking animal.

>>19326925
Based

>>19327334
>>19327290
futures are meaningless you smug cunts
i will check back tomorrow after open.

>>19327319
Nobody cares. Line goes up and always up, when do you learn it? When SPY is 400?

>>19327298
>SPY new high today.
Futures dont count.

>>19327319
yeah literally this retard right here >>19327317

>>19327350
European market was open and shined deep green. Again and again, you will never learn

>>19327285
N-NANI??!!!!

>MORE THAN 90 COUNTRIES REQUEST IMF BAILOUT
Pay up globalists

>>19327408
IMF isn't going to bail out for free.

>>19327435
China will offer more than IMF in return for ports and mineral rights as collateral, which they already did for Africa
Why do you think they've been pushing RUSSSSSSIIIAAAA as the evil overlord for the world, need to distract from the country actually taking over the third world

>>19327379
Everyone knows euro markets are just a sad warped mirror of US markets.

>>19327319
>ETFs and index funds are in a bubble
It's bullshit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0pJh8mFk0

So, what are your hot opinions on FAANG?

I see there's a lot of people riding high on hot air future outlook expecting these giants to pull money out their ass when in reality, a lot of growth has peaked unless new services or products are coming out and positioned to be successful.

Google
Last time I checked, Google horribly fails at any type of expansion it tries to do into B2C whether it's phones, video game consoles, network infrastructure etc. They're still mainly an ad company and their incompetence at anything new they try is embarrassing and alarming considering all the money they're capable of throwing around. They boast about having a think tank workforce but they can't have a properly engineered core product, struggle with marketing, obtaining IP, and customer service.

Amazon
The most impressive out of all by far. Proper diversification and management of in my opinion. Very impressive vertical integration: modernized shipping (serious infrastructure commitments), warehousing, B2C portals. Ventures into cloud computing, advertising, consumer electronics, streaming, subscription, brick and mortar retail. I think the investor salivation is justified minus the anti trust fears.

Apple
Stagnation concerns. They don't know what to come up with anymore. Problem is that iphone is the big cow and smartphone market is getting feature saturation. They're also not know to take heavy risks with design.
Interested to see what the shift away from Intel will bring, and how they are going to get and ARM platform started. This seems risky in terms of software support but it's not their core revenue segment. They've managed to grow their services respectably and keep the ipad and computer lines relevant so that's a plus. China concerns here as well.

>>19327518
Netflix
Barrier to entry for competition is frighteningly low these days and entrants already have their own IP to put into their services and partnerships with other providers. HBO, Disney, etc. etc
If Netflix doesn't put out/acquire rights to good IP and doesn't meet subscriber growth, what is there to look forward to?
Facebook
Ad revenue. Only so much user growth and ads can be fed to them. Earnings talk for themselves.

I made huge gains today but I am still financially ruined

>>19327518
apple is transitioning to wearables and services
iphone se is to boost services revenue
90 billion buyback, i'm riding it to 380-420
while selling options on the side

>>19327574
Just buy some ETFs.

>>19327590
but I did

>Euroshitter stocks up 2-3% yesterday even without chad American markets telling them which way to move
Yo nigga dat 3000 really finna boutta get dabbed on, innit?

>>19327535
Facebook still has room for growth. As we saw the other week with their storefront stuff, Facebook can take advantage of its wide net to start offering services via Facebook. So many places don't have their own website, but they do have their own Facebook page. Facebook can take advantage of this and offer services for businesses.

>>19327518
Google - adaption of google ads in growing markets and small businesses . Also Google Cloud Platform growing faster than AWS and in my opinion being much more user-friendly. And I seriously hope you aren't denying the massive value Google Search brings to people's life. If Search was a subscription based service I would pay a lot to keep using it. Pixel phones and pretty much every Google service I ever used (mail, docs, drive, android etc.) are great value as well albeit not their main product.

>>19327518
also you missed micro(penis)soft(dick)
it's FAGMAN

I’m ready for airlines and casinos to moon.

>>19327772
i wanna buy some LUUUUV <3

>>19327772
how do you figure that's going to happen when tickets increase due to max capacity being halved and that fliers have to quarantine for 4 weeks for a vacation?
you are speculating for a vaccine to save airlines and you are hoping your pick doesn't go bankrupt/restructure and screw you over until then

Can we put the improved OP and less weeb pictures up tomorrow. I wanna lurk at work.

>>19327737
>If Search was a subscription based service I would pay a lot to keep using it

bro please do not give them ideas

>>19327756
hehe, I left M$ out on purpose. It deserves its own little post

>>19327834
what is the improved OP?

>crude

>>19327870
what about intel
?

May get the JET's etf. Still a nice upside to it and it pays out a divvy. That way it wouldn't really mater which airline survived or didn't as the virus does its thing

>>19327894
Where’s the best place to follow WTI prices?

>>19327597
You sold at the corona all time low?

>>19327833
I’m betting on alk and luv, and maybe save if they stay cheap. I’m betting also that the quarantine stuff won’t last.

>>19327907
I think that's the best way if you're bullish on the airline market in general but aren't sure which airline to go for. I will say that I think LUV and DAL are probably the best positioned.

>>19327907
buffet sold all airlines holding

>>19327998
Buffett must be really retarded. He sold the bottom. Every retail investor is better than him. We zoomers are new buffetts now.

>>19327998
>believing in the ombarassment of omaha
>>>/r/eddit/

>>19327659
it's not a bad bet since business already has presence on facebook, but will be interesting to see what actually comes out of this considering how mature the market is for offering simple internet solutions for business.
>>19327583
>apple is transitioning to wearables and services
doesn't that give you a heart attack for long run outlook? There is nothing impressive about their wearables sector. sensor based stuff you can do with having an electronic strapped to your arm so immediate industries of interests are fitness healthcare both of which aren't the first thing to come to mind when you think of good opportunities. wearable was made with integration into their ecosystem in mind blah blah, at the end of the day, whats the core non redundant consumer value? iwatch doesn't even seem to have that much of an appeal as status symbol compared to iphone. It's just a redundant gift you buy someone.

Services sector for Appul is as good as their ability to acquire IP and the availability and ease of use, which they do a very good job. No matter how good growth outlook is in this sector, I don't see it becoming much larger.

Not saying it's not rideable in near to mid term, but still worried.

>>19327890
It has more links under >Misc

We never had a better OP in /smg/ history. Really terrific. Everyone agrees.

>>19328014
kek sure anon, the risk of losing 100% of your shit to a restructuring is totally worth the upside potential of double or tripling your shit in 2-3 years.
Personally I'm keeping my shit into other less-risky shit until airliners inevitably dip down further when the first airliner files for bankruptcy. Also need more financials than single quarterly to decide which airliner will actually survive, e.g. AAL is definitely screwed with their cashburn.

>>19326951
>Lol bro fuck doing research real Chad's just throw money at things they don't understand

Kill yourself

>hong kong stonk market closed green
>when their country is currently being forcibly annexed by one of the most corrupt, degenerate and totalitarian countries in the world
Three words: Bullish and priced in

>>19328112
Lufthansa discussion about a bail out was already known for several weeks. 6% gains only today, you musst be retarded to think about 2-3y in the current market situation.

>>19328156
china isn't degenerate, they are autistic instead

>>19328163
i mean you act as if everyone is either cash or just airliners. The rest of the market has been moving up just as fast if not faster for the past month with much less risk.

>>19326829
I fucked out of Nvax last week. Lost faith in anything substantial.

>>19328169
>China isn't degenerate
Kek good one, the place is filled with a shit ton of prostitutes and material whores. Congrats on falling for their method of saving face.

>>19327894
we are going to live like kings, Anon

Party Beanies for sale

>>19328169
>no hygien or food standards
>animal cruelty abundant
>apathy toward human life just as abundant

>>19328225
>>19328265
sounds based

>>19326921
Thoughts on CHK and/or IBIO?

>>19327737
fair point about GCP. I forgot to mention them since it's an immature platform that they are appearing to be getting somewhat right. The problem with GCP, and I would argue a lot of other Google products, is that they do not know how to properly integrate and sell to enterprise customers. M$ tramples all over them.

>And I seriously hope you aren't denying the massiv
It's less about value to people's lives and more about how it translates into revenue for the company. Google search is the core relevant product because it's the gateway into their core revenue stream (advertising). Search being a good core product enables a good core revenue stream.

The Pixel line is a shitshow in my opinion, something they started as a subsidized dev phone (Nexus) that got popularized into something that was then rebranded into a flagship line that they couldn't market or support properly. Yet it's still priced relative to the iphone at this point, which is delusional.


>>19327866
search is the core of their revenue model
it will stay free because it's the gate to ad revenue

>>19327896
I'm saving my intel and amd shitposting for another day. too much to talk about

>>19328280
based on what?

>>19328014
this. I don't fucking understand why he sold at the literal bottom. He could at least have bet on some hopium to lessen his losses. Makes no sense.

>>19328339
doggo bbqs and cheap hookers

nig nig nig nig
nig nig nig

3k tomorrow

nig nig nig nig nig

gold was tempting me at 1750
glad I didn't buy in there
I'll start adding to my position tomorrow. Probably GDX and IAU

>>19328253
but I still have my party hat from last time !

>>19328280
Based? Based on what?

>>19328376
Funny, I just exited my gold position on friday. Good luck to you though.

>>19328369
Chinkos are fucking dumdums when it comes to the doggos though. Instead of doing the veal treatment they scare and beat the shit out of the animal repeatedly, making the meat tougher.

>>19328339

>>19327737
I've been using DDG for two years now. I used to !google every now and again for better results on a query, but now DDG does a pretty good job. Recently I've noticed I get no better results flipping between the two.
Search is nothing special. Google's value is purely in advertising.

>>19328380
based based on what poster

>>19328112
DAL seems to be the chosen one of the three but I don't want to touch any of them long term.
I'm okay with riding the headlines on DAL for risky short term gain. They have decent support at 20 and I don't think anything worse can happen to the industry until the fall since bailouts had conditions that extended into that period. The guidelines are just that, and I won't be suprised if restrictions loosen as this fades from news cycle and local ordinances get trumped by fed

>>19328366
because he has a 20- to 30-year outlook (whether he lives that much longer is besides the point), there's reasonable concern that airliners may be changed completely due to covid19 depending on how effective an RNA vaccine will prove to be. While there's no reason to believe that covid19 is going to be as unusual as HIV, a vaccine for coronavirus is still not going to be as simple as a flu vaccine or some shit.
I have not heard an argument for this DAL retards on why they are so certain it's going to go back to pre-March levels other than """price memory""" sentiments. Just the single fact that people would have to go to quarantine for weeks is enough to make overseas vacations unfeasible.

seriously though, why pick airliners over any other sector that's been recovering fast?

>>19328416
damn, well then korean bbq doggos it is

>>19327317
4 years ahead of you

>>19326951
except we are living in the age of meme overvalued shit (it's almost shitcoin esque at this point), and you can make a very nice dime gambling on said memeshit
Your advice may have been sensible a decade ago

>>19326925
have a good week Jesus bro.

>>19328339
based on based

DAL looks tempting from both a pure reward play and on the risk/reward scale. From what I've been reading they seem to be safe from going under (the feds bailout money aiding them to). Making a nice gain from it what I'm after but losing my investment money ain't on the cards. So I'm glad they seem to be well protected. If it takes a few years hey that's fine. I don't really need the money that quick. Be sweet if I get it before my 40th birthday though (3 years away)

why is everything frozen? some burger event?

>>19328514
>how can one be warm alone?

>>19327209
yes(in theory) and no in practise, everything is also market timing, for example, buying once a month (dollar cost average or whatever) is a serious market timing system. not a 'passive' system.

>>19328549
buffett threatened to pull out of every market unless he could get free coca-cola for the rest of his life

>>19328518
but what's the based on based on based on?

>>19327197
CEQP PVAC HLX SPCE NBLX

>>19327319
people who say index funds are a bubble generally make living advertising stock picking or running stock picking fund. it's nonsense

>>19328548
dont get me wrong, i'd buy back into airliners if that ridiculous cashburn was more reasonable. I just don't think the short-term gains are worth that immense risk compared to anything else.
It's the argument between risking all your money for 5x returns vs being fashionably late and getting 2x returns at much lower risk.
I just get this feeling that most people seem to disregard the idea of bankruptcy entirely just because they're essential when an airliner can totally file for bankruptcy while remaining functional throughout the process.

>>19328427
Based Rudy

Any new good ones or just all magic?

>>19328366
You can’t know where the bottom is ahead of time, and maybe the bottom would be lower if he sold later, he had a almost 10% of some of those companies.

Also there’s the idea that if you wouldn’t hold a company for 5 years, you shouldnt hold it for 5 minutes.

>>19328552

>>19328581
its redpilled on the based on based on based on

>>19328555
It’s a strategy but it’s still a passive one, especially if it’s set up to do automatic contributions.

>>19328456
>seriously though, why pick airliners over any other sector that's been recovering fast?
You're right, there is no good reason if you're really factoring in the amount of uncertainty you have to bear. Between layoffs, cash burn, fleet consolidation, bailout effects, capacity restrictions, regulations (self imposed due to media pressure or actual new laws) etc.

>vaccine for coronavirus is still not going to be as simple as a flu vaccine or some shit.

You're assuming that this is going to linger in the news cycle and push for vaccine is going to be strong as a result. Reopen forces are too strong, and really a lot of people don't give a flying fuck about it evident by how they are treating the restrictions put on to them to date. Not saying this is good or bad, I don't care, just don't see this whole mass vaccination or second wave happening with how the first wave has resulted. Maybe administration change would shift that but economy can't afford another hit

>>19328225
china is hyper materialistic culture. even more than americans. korea is slightly less but very high materialism and superficial too, 20% of korean girl have their fist plastic surgery by young age.

japan is less materialistic because to they have been very wealthy country for longer time in past 100-200 years, and it's basically culturally higher stand. it's almost that in japan showing off wealth and being flashy is looked down upon as bad manner. in ginza etc. it's mostly chinese who show off wealth, not japanese people.

BOBO ARE YOU OK, ARE YOU OK, ARE YOU OK BOBO?

>bers

>>19328764
I'm fomoing hard right now, bro.... I need reassurance that another crash will come

>>19328764
>poasting this every single day multiple times in each thread
soon, cuckboi, soon.

Guys what will dip real hard on opening day?

>>19328630
Delta:

>>19328645
:(

>>19328751
i need i need to coom to this

>>19328764
it's amazing how bears have been wrong for hundreds of SPX points and still try to talk shit once it drops a couple of single points

>>19328832
FXI

I've got 8000 to use as short term cash generating money so my thinking is spiting it between DAL and few oil stocks I've gotten feedback on. These are not long term holdings by any means. They hit the pre-virus levels, they're sold pronto. My long term holdings however will remain just that, long term, never sold just added to. Long as I turn that 8000 into 12,500 by my 40th birthday in 3 years frankly I don't care what it's parked in, long as it don't fuck me over. Already got a nice wad in the bank, 12500 is the missing link to hit my yearly salary.

bros what's up with ZNGA ? why's it doing so well

>>19328633
>You can’t know where the bottom is ahead of time, and maybe the bottom would be lower if he sold later, he had a almost 10% of some of those companies.
I don't think it takes a lot of pencils and graphs to speculate on where the short term bottom was at this point. Exiting on reopen headlines would have at least mitigated loss if you want to act on your principles/strategy. I think we live in a strange time when the headlines are worth a lot.

>Also there’s the idea that if you wouldn’t hold a company for 5 years, you shouldnt hold it for 5 minutes.
there is a proper time to sell if you want to exit a position especially when short term bottom can very well be called (closure of econ. )and short term jump can be seen (repoen) .

>>19326951
Your entire argument resorts to a fallacy argument about averages but that isn't useful here. The people that remain here month over month without blowing their account doing dumb shit have above average ability and market insight. A lot of us were able to get out of the market before Corona Virus tanked it, against the typical investing advice that timing the market is impossible, and we have substantially greater returns through that alone than those who just held SPY the whole time.

You don't need to be a professional to beat the market, It is actually easier to turn a profit if you're not a professional because you're not beholden to any investors, you can switch leverages easily or weight high performing companies much higher than what you would get with any ETF. Intelligent people should at least test their ability to beat the market instead of just assuming they can't because of the mantra repeated by idiots.

Why aren't you holding a MAGA portfolio, anon?

M icrosoft (25%)
A pple (25%)
G oogle (25%)
A mazon (25%)

>>19328751
the most materialistic and flashy tend to be the ones that recently got uplifted out of poverty or elevated in class

>>19328978
Not really interested in holding a portfolio of the most overbought companies in world history.

uh oh
I'm tempted to be a useless piece of shit and play Oblivion all day

>>19327973

>>19328990
that really only applies to Amazon which is almost as bad as AMD. The rest are pretty reasonable.

>>19328978
how's that maga, it's the exact anti-maga, dumbfuck
microsoft .... aims to hire mostly pajeets
apple ..... outsourced all manufacturing to china and now india/vietnam
google ..... literally censors anything pro-trump and gives a huge boost to anti-trump shit
amazon ...... bezos owns washington post which is constantly saying we're in the darkest times of democracy because bad orange man

the fuck is wrong with you, are you baiting or genuinely dumb to waste our time?

My calls are gonna print so much money LETS FUCKING GO

>>19329037
ITS MAGA BECAUSE I MAKE MONEY STUPID COMMIE

>>19326951
>factor investing
imagine getting btfo by bogleboomer himself, just buy vstax dumbo

>>19328978
While I like big tech, I prefer NDR’s FANMAG.

It’s so obviously an anagram of FagMan

>>19329037
Based as fuck, it’s a dumb shit acronym.

>>19329014
i have 500 hours into animal crossing since March

BIG GREEN FOOOCKIN DILDS

>>19328946
They're a popular game developer for mobiles which is an industry expecting lots of growth. With the corona virus more people are playing on their phones and shit, creating more hype behind the company. I've personally got shares and calls on ZNGA that are doing great, definitely worth following.

>>19329014
Damn bro, I might fire that up, or just have another meme Skyrim run

>>19327177
Biased because I've been holding MRO since sub 5, but I think the liquidity and fundamentals are there to see another 20-30% gain EOY barring another major oil or pandemic meltdown.

>>19329014
Give yourself a 30 minute time limit and play some 2hu instead. And do some goddamned pushups.

>>19329014
Good taste senpai

>>19329127
>(((skyrimjob)))

But I dunno, I mean hell KOS, all it has to do is hit 4 bucks. A puny 2 dollar hike and I'd double my money. Go from 8000 to 16000 via just 2 lousy bucks. Which ain't nowhere near it's high either. Knowing me, the moment I sold it'd rally the next day.

Stocks are going up tomorrow, im selling everything. This is your last call to sell everything. Market is fucked long term. This is your last call to sell everything

Uhhhh help me out Bros. Is this good or not good?

>May 25 (Reuters) - REGENERON PHARMACEUTICALS INC:
>* REGENERON ANNOUNCES SECONDARY OFFERING OF ITS COMMON STOCK HELD BY SANOFI AND $5 BILLION STOCK REPURCHASE
>* SANOFI CURRENTLY OWNS APPROXIMATELY 23.2 MILLION REGENERON SHARES AND INTENDS TO SELL APPROXIMATELY 12.8 MILLION SHARES IN PUBLIC OFFERING
>* SANOFI ALSO EXPECTS TO GRANT UNDERWRITERS A 30-DAY OPTION TO PURCHASE AN ADDITIONAL 10% OF SHARES OFFERED IN BASE OFFERING
>* REGISTERED OFFERING AND SHARE REPURCHASE WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON ONGOING COLLABORATION BETWEEN REGENERON AND SANOFI
>* REGENERON AGREED TO REPURCHASE APPROXIMATELY $5 BILLION OF COMMON STOCK DIRECTLY FROM SANOFI
>* REGENERON WILL FUND PURCHASE WITH A COMBINATION OF $3.5 BILLION OF CASH ON HAND AND $1.5 BILLION OF FULLY-COMMITTED BRIDGE FINANCING FROM GOLDMAN SACHS BANK USA
>* PURCHASE PRICE WILL BE EQUAL TO NET OFFERING PRICE PER SHARE AFTER DEDUCTING ANY UNDERWRITERS' DISCOUNT AND COMMISSION
>* FOLLOWING OFFERING AND REGENERON'S $5 BILLION SHARE REPURCHASE, SANOFI WILL HAVE DISPOSED OF ALL OF ITS SHARES, OTHER THAN 400,000 SHARES IT INTENDS TO RETAIN

He tried to warn us all

jesus christ 2020 is absolute bonkers status.
so fucking glad i'm alive and in a position to really watch this shit roll in

>>19329355
Already back to normal with a bad flu season.

>>19329266
>REGENERON PHARMACEUTICALS
stopped reading right there
not good.

>>19329014
lucky, I haven't been able to enjoy any videogame in years

>>19329355
Quite the horrific pandemic with .1% death rates for non-boomers and Nasdaq at all time highs

Humanity might not make it this is the confirmed end

>>19329028
P/L? -14?

>>19329014
>>19329150
just play a modded morrowind

>>19329473
I mostly only play city building games and EU IV
but every once in a while I get tempted
I only play old games, and sometimes ARAMs

>>19329596
I never played morrowind
what mods should I get for it

but yeah I'm buying more RTX in the morning. Hope to get it at 59.99 or less. its at a little past 60 now but who the fuck knows what it'll be in the morning. Damnit, shoulda bought more last week but money wasn't there yet.. But shit long as I bag it at under 60 it shouldn't fuck with my avg that bad.

>>19329596
It requires too many mods to be as fun as very lightly modded oblivion. Morrowind is for when you want to immerse yourself in a very poorly made yet interestingly alien world. Oblivion is if you want to enjoy emerging encounters like an npc randomly deciding to pickpocket another, getting caught, and being murdered by a guard, or abusing NPC meal schedules to make them eat poisoned apples, or physically jumping on a winebarrel that you fill with grapes to make wine, etc. Its quests are also a lot more fun and much better designed, and despite what nostalgia goggletards say, even the dungeons are better in oblivion. It's copy-pasta in morrowind as well, but the procedural algorithm in oblivion adds more variability despite the sameness.

>>19329527
profit loss -14 euros so far
horrible!

>>19329612
>I never played morrowind
Cringe, n'wah. Oblivion is the worst of the last three Elder Scrolls games.

>>19329676

>>19329612
>what mods should I get for it
mainly just graphic mods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTLJHjVXJms

a few content mods/gameplay mods help as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdO7DxfyNDk

Why futures stopped at noon? When do they open again and break 3000?

>>19329718
I DISAPPOINTED YOU ANON AND I AM SORRY

Fucking KOS hit just $3 next week. A fucking 1.08 increase would see me hit 12,900. Goddamnit, fucking DIS moves more than a buck a day.. Fucking hell..

>Page 2
This is it, bobos. Stock market is dead.

Fuck it. ATH here we come. I've given up, gonna buy SPY. So fucking tired of this shit, I don't even care anymore.

>>19329751
because its a holiday and europe closed for the day.
>prob reopen at NZ open

>>19329406
It's gonna be a comfy summer

>>19329819
Peak optimism and bears convert to bulls. Time to slowly sell.

>>19327834
No.

>>19326921
>1929 market crashed 30%, followed by a 4 month rally were it retraced 50% from the losses, then it crashed again going down 86% in a 3 year long bear market
>1990 japan market crashed 28%, it retraced 50% back for 3 monts, then crashed again 57% from its retracement level in a 2 year long bear market
>2000 dotcom bubble market crashed 34%, it retraced 61% during 3 months, then it crashed again 70% from its retracement level in a 2 year long bear market
>2007 financial crisis market crashed 19%, it retraced 50% during 2 months, then it crashed again 40% from its retracement level in a 1.5 year long bear market
>2020 covid crisis market crashed 34%, it retraced 61% during a 2 month rally, then...

>dubs survives crisis with 1000% gains
>trips decides what happens next
>quads summon gigabull and there will never be another crash in history, eternal gains granted for everyone
>quints summon gigabobo and we crash to negative sp500

>>19329873
based, the /biz/ inverse indicator works really well :)

>>19329873
>>19329938
>peak optimism
If /biz/ is indicating optimism, the complete opposite is true.

>>19329933
i WILL have sex

>>19329961
with a GIRL, who does NOT have a penis

>>19329933
>let's compare structural problems to random pandemic
yeah nah

>>19329443
Why? They’re a good company. Large cap, many profitable drugs on the market.

>>19329933
>t. Amerimutt boomer
Please die already.

>>19329961
no you won't

>>19329752
I'm like -4000€ with my stonks and still waiting.

>>19329706
daggerfall > skyrim > morro > fallout 3 >> the rest

diablo 2 remastered rumored to hit by q4, or diablo 4. or both after blizzcon !!! like that diablo 2 hits 6 months before diablo 4

Is it even possible for the market to go down?

>>19330011
Did you buy before March and forgot to sell or something?

>>19330011
bro what the fuck did you do
tanker stocks?

Why can't I just be as retarded as this guy. Why can't I just make money

>>19329984
Boomers are outliving millennials

>>19330017

Fuck it I'm gonna stay in KOS. All I need is it to go up a lousy fucking 1.08. That's it, godamnit. Surely to fuck that ain't hard for it considering the high is 7...

>>19330029
I think it's possible for SHOP to go down. It hasn't yet. I'm not buying puts either. I don't know when this tulip bulb will crash.

Escalating tensions with Venezuela and Iran this week. Oil is going to fucking moon hard. Anyhow, is it too late to go all in on $PRTS?

>>19330028
>>19330032
I bought shorts. Pls no bullyru ;_;

>>19329972
Based. Never give up.

You might have to accept that real women have real problems and are often entitled bitches like asuka or are dissociative and prefer powerful men, like rei.

Maya seems so appealing because you never get to know her well enough to see what’s wrong with her. She might be nice in public but a huge bitch behind closed doors.

>>19327177
Cheap shit:
KOS
MRO
GEO
COTY
AMRN
AAL
HBI
I have taken modest gains from all of these in the last year. I currently HODL KOS and will look to sell late Summer/early Fall. I have a very small position in COTY and hope to sell around their Q4 earnings, but who knows? I may swing it two or three times as I have in the past.
Do your own DD, and always do the opposite of what "we" say here.

>>19328987
A majority of Chinese are broke as fuck. What is disgusting is seeing the children of high ranking officials flaunt it and at the same time despise their own citizens who they fucking leech off of.

>>19329355
>it's real
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241674007/#241678145

>first news about brazil
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/24/861749690/white-house-restricts-travel-from-brazil-where-coronavirus-cases-near-350-000?t=1590431361927

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/247799/20200305/coronavirus-update-covid-19-is-now-mutating-into-another-virus-in-brazil-and-its-scary.htm

>>19330089
Well anon, I am sorry to hear that.
That market was crazy indeed. How long have you been investing? I hope you had experience with calls before you started shorting

>>19330064
ya mate, don't be the guy that buys puts on TSLA, PTON, W, TWLO, etc... ride the train don't jump in front of it

>>19329706
Oblivion > morrowind > daggerfall > shit > ur mum > skygarbage > u

am i doing this right?
does SHOP actually have a P/E of 4343x?
it's share price divided by EPS right?

its over
futures are pine-tree green
i'm going to close out my sqqq, tvix, yang and bzq positions tomorrow at a loss. i'm then going to go all in on spy and tqqq. you just can't fight the central banks, they have infinite funds. mumus, you won. enjoy the green dildos up your asses. i'm done with /smg/ too.

If this doesn’t make you bearish long term, I don’t know what will.

>>19330126
This isn’t proof of anything. We’ve known for months that this is going to hit South America like a friggin hurricane, and that Brazil is particularly dense in some areas and that bolsonaro is incompetent.

>>19330231
If you’re betting AGAINST e-commerce, you’re doing it wrong.

E-commerce is not the same as the Dutch rose retardation.

>>19330263
What is the bull case for SPY 330 in July?

>>19330263
>people buying cheapies is bearish
how so?

>>19329761
Jesus Christ, take it easy. I would also like to see KOS go up, and I think it will but it will be gradual. Look for .15-.30 gains each week as it inches toward $3. There will be a forty cent dip in there around the 4th of July, but the jews tell me they will allow it to go to $6 in August before they start playing games with the FOMO retail crowd.
t. KOS gang

>>19330231
none of that shit matters anymore
too the moooon
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/shop/price-earnings-peg-ratios

>>19330252
I'm just going to hold them into oblivion. at the absolute worst, they will buffer a loss for my longs. I really don't like the idea of buying into this market without insurance. It's what I did from january into march and I made it out flat.

I made $3000 today. It could have been $5500 if I hadn't sold at lunch. I feel no joy about the money made now. Help.

>>19330252
you're trying reverse psychology aren't you?
not gonna work, we riding this dildo to the moon

>>19330126
>brazillian bats are going to turn the virus into the new black death!

>>19326925
Based & Blessed.
Wishing you all good fortune, and good restraint.

>>19330144
I hope for a second crash.
I made a little bit of money beforce with Tesla and FAANG.
I can lose the money. But it still hurts.

>>19330287
Cringe avatarnigger, at least stop being clinically retarded for 5 seconds. Robbinfags like yourself always indicate late movement/sheeple stampede.

>>19330297
if you're excited about the money you gain you'll lose it
if you're indifferent you'll keep making money
principle of life, law of attraction

Happy Memorial day everybody. One of my cousins visited our grandfather's grave yesterday and sent me a picture of the flag and flowers he left. Granddad was a WWII vet, died in 2013. Anyway, cousin put a penny on the headstone as well and i asked what that meant. It turns out there is a whole tradition with leaving coins on military headstones.
Penny = you visited the grave
Nickel = you attended boot with the person
Dime = you served in a deployment with him
Quarter = only applicable if the deceased was killed in action. It means you were there when he died.

>>19330278
countries reopening and resuming albeit with reduced occupancy and output; this coupled with forward looking will make people fomo into cheapies as we'll be fully recovered by 2021 (theoretically); coronavirus confirmed nothing burger through june as death rates remain sequestered to the usual suspects and people get back to work and refuse further shutdown shenanigans

>>19329612
>I mostly only play city building games
Based.

>>19330269
>>19330299
Why would they restrict travel from Brazil specifically?
There have been various hotspots without travel bans.
And all other predictions were absolutely accurate including timeframes and what exactly would happen in the market

>>19330325
That’s the opposite though. It’s like the law of reverse psychology of attraction.

>>19330093
That image is Hikari. Maya is the lesbian who likes Dr Akagi

>>19330340
>Why would they restrict travel from a hotspot that is doing nothing at all to restrict travel?

>>19330298
trust me greenfag, the moment i go all-in on the bullside is the moment there will be a biblical dump. this isn't reverse psych it's me warning you that the moment i capitulate is the moment of inflection. the only reason the markets are green is because i still have short positions. i sincerely believe i live in a torture matrix and everything is designed to extract maxx pain fro me. if you benefited from the past few weeks or months that's because you're just an NPC in the background of my existence. call me a schizo all you want. you're just a string of numbers and letters in an ID. my true bros are at /x/, at /pennystockgeneral/ and my fellow tvix goys.

all you ultra-long "buy TQQQ" fags are going to get rekt the moment i also get into TQQQ. enjoy your temporary unrealized gains. i will fuck you all on tuesday at market open when i switch to long.

FUTURES FUCKING HALTED BROS HOLY SHIT WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT!

>>19330278
What a lucky cat..

>>19330278
No second wave and we ride the euphoria of being “back to normal” during the summer. Seriously, I think this summer is going to be good vibes.

>>19330252
Welcome to the Bull Hall, brave warrior. We will accept you as a mighty Tauren shaman once you turn your meme magic to the Light of the Green Candle. Abandon the evil ways of the Bobo Warlocks, for the wages of Boss Sin are truly paid out in only Death dollars.

>>19330372
>/pennystockgeneral/
why are all bears such degenerate gamblers?

>>19330287
Ford is dead. Have you even looked at their balance sheet dude?
>>19330314
Kek based

>>19330328
Dude I went to Afghanistan twice and lost guys and have never heard that shit lol.

>>19330402
I gave up on F a long time ago, and when they released design info on the relaunch of the Ranger it sealed their date.

>>19330263
Dead car makers.

Meanwhile TSLA is second in market cap only to the mighty Toyota.

What does Ford had to offer in the electric market? The "mustang" Mach-e?! They just murdered the Mustang branding.
Took DECADES to revive that name after they killed it in the 70's.
They haven't fucking learn from their own history.
A bunch of retards in suits.
Tesla, no, not just Tesla, even Rivian in which Ford invested will surpass them.

The stock reflect what people are seeing in Ford. Their stock was down trending BEFORE the Corona!

>>19330401
Gamblers expect to be able to predict and time the market. Experienced investors all know never try to force either of those.
To profit off of shorts you have to do both, which is why it's irresponsible and people go to great lengths to explain away their self inflicted misfortune.

>>19330419
post funny war story :3

>>19330374
Tfw living on just sweet potatoes since Thursday because I wanted to buy one more TQQQ share out of my paycheck in anticipation of the everyone going back to work celebratory long weekend
I'm genuinely so fucking cool, bring me my tendie money please boomercharts

>>19330402
>Ford is dead
i'm not saying i would buy them, i'm just saying remarking on a shit load of people buying low on literally any stock, especially a boomer stock like F, is pointless.
willing to bet you could pull up pretty much any stock through this and you would see similar patterns

>>19330372
i'm neo himself you bearfag cuck
raise your vibration so your action is in flow with the universe rather than against
you can see me as the positive version of you, even if i close my eyes and pick any ticker it will go up
true high spirit don't have bad luck like you and they're never negative such as being a bear and wishing the doomsday of society in which create suffering for millions and millions

>>19330278
Bullish case for summer is mainly preponderance of increasingly positive news; more stuff opening every week, travel restrictions slowly lifting, unemployment numbers coming down. Corona crash is different than a systemic recession in this way, with recovery being somewhat predictable pending further complications. There is no evidence of muh everything bubble coming to a head at this time. inb4 muh second wave etc.

>>19330340
Because all of the reasons I just told you.

A lot of the predictions are spooky but also make perfect sense if you look at previous outbreaks. Like he makes a big deal out of “confirmed cases” being a phrase we’ll start hearing a lot, but that’s basic pandemic terminology.

>>19330355
Shit you’re right.
I still like the staff at the Lilia Litvyak more sometimes.

>>19329933
I am based

>>19330355
maya is number one

>>19330560
Oh shit. Do we have an anon obsessed with that one too?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/24/coronavirus-trump-halts-brazil-travel-limit-spread-covid-19/5253993002/

>>19330419
Yeah i hadn't heard of it before either but this appears to a tradition at least in some parts of the US.
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/03/meaning-behind-tradition-leaving-coins-veterans-gravestones/

>>19330490
Show your holdings or go back to LGBT U fag.

>>19330372
red is the color of fear and demonic energy, low chakra
green is the color of Love, Matrix, Pepe and Capital Gains

>>19330592
Good.

>>19330426
Yeah they killed the ranger then they totally fucked it over with the redesign. I mean hell all they had to do was take the then current design (2000 - 2010) and make it a true king cab; ie 4 full size doors. They did this overseas for the global ranger before they fucked with the whole design. The frame work was there. The long bed ranger frame coupled with the short bed would've allowed the room for the king cab.

>>19330635
my gains >>19328484

>>19330648
Show your holdings or go back to LGBT u fag!

>he sold his sqqq bags
>dump it
you just know this will happen

>>19330592
>this is it y'all! they wont call it a nothing burger now that the brazillian bats are going to turn covid into the real life t-virus!

>>19330682
>>19328484
your turn cuck

>>19330668
Imagine getting lucky and then claiming genius. Lotto winners think they are smart too.

>>19330709
if i were lucky it would be a spike instead of steady trajectory to the moon like that you absolute assmuncher
stay around, probably will double my money by november

>>19330648
>red is the color of fear and demonic energy, low chakra
Red is also the color of the CCP - coincided or synchronization?

>>19330560
Misato is the best girl, but the Tragedy of NGE is that Shinsoi is obsezz w/ la gringa roja

>>19330087
>Oil is going to fucking moon hard
Oil cannot "moon hard" right now. The prices we're at are a direct result of OPEC+ supply cuts and US well shuttins. Fuck what media/special interests/politicians want you to believe, demand still extremely low, refinery utilization sits around 65-70% in the US, down from 90-95% last year, and contango has absolutely evaporated while oil is sitting at $30-35/bl. All signs point to a long and hard crabwalk before we see anything good.

Voluntary supply cuts and floating storage must be unwound before upward mobility can occur. Even if everything goes perfectly for oil producers, $35+ WTI puts many US producers back in the game, which is going to plateau the price for a very long time, as the demand deficit over the past few months dwarfs any perspective supply deficit we can project into the future.

Meanwhile, all it takes is China having a second wave, India opening up too slowly, EU/Americans refusing to travel/commute or consume petrochemicals, or somebody to cheat on their production quotas, and you're in deep shit again.


Get out of the oil market if your outlook is less than a year, or if you're looking for immediate upward volatility. Oil will almost certainly march back to 50$, but it's going to take a long time to get there. In the meantime, oil is is near an extremely precious peak at the moment.

>>19330699
Didnt ask you to show someones gains.
You didnt post your HOLDINGS, you are a GIGANTIC, TREMENDOUS FAGGOT!!!!

>>19330297
I made $400 and I could have made $1000.

Oh well. Being up for a change is nice.

>stock market was closed but someone has opened the futures until they closed 2 hours ago
>also the futures pumped

what the fuck is going on today?

Buttcoin dumped today and bullbros are getting too cocky... I smell a big ole dump coming

>>19330780
Shut up kid, the adults are talking.

>>19330749
However you wanna rationalize it buddy.

>>19330752
no coincidence, chinks are demons incarnate

>>19330769
>someone else gains
>don't know how to google image search
this is the bear doubting my gains

>>19330772
we dimensionally shift into green timeline just so that the bearfags can fuck off forever

I either regret I didn't sell or I regret I didn't buy more. Green or red, I can't win.

>>19330772
You can trade in other countries retard

>>19330826
Join Theta Gang

>>19330822
Show holdings U FAG!

>>19330807
You are going to lose a lot of money this week.

>>19330780
Nobody gives a fuck about buttcoin. There is no printer in it and the line can go down too.

Stock market is only upwards from here.

>volume literally dead when the US market is closed
>pic related are how the candles for all equities today look like
god bless america

>>19330855
You are going to gain more Big Black Bullcum this week than you have ever had injected in your anus before.

new

>>19330879
>>19330879
>>19330879

>>19330854
absolutely crushing s&p

>>19330893
woops

>>19330433
>What does Ford had to offer in the electric market?
Fronk wings.

>>19331597
Frunk*

https://twitter.com/Virgin_Orbit/status/1265008105714155520

"We've confirmed a clean release from the aircraft. However, the mission terminated shortly into the flight. Cosmic Girl and our flight crew are safe and returning to base."

Virgin Orbit just exploded its test rocket. I hope none of you own SPCE.

i Used to think that I....could not...go Loonggg..
and life was nuffin but....an awful songggg
but Now I know the meanin of true Gainzzzz
I'm buying all the SPY i can...
If I can shill it, then I can doooo itttttt
If I just beleib iftttttt. there's nuffin 2 it
I BELIEVE I CAN SPPPY
I BELIEVE I CAN TOUCH THE SKY
I FINK ABOUT IT ERRR NIGHT N DAY
SPREAD MY FUNDS AND FLY AWAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQn8pab8Vc

>>19331690
Is it a good buy on the dip.
Or is it fucked forever?
How is the cult status on this crap?

>>19328722

What you said about airlines concerning FUD and all that was exactly what factored into my decision to dump my United Airlines and JetBlue. Warren Buffett and me just happened to of reached the same conclusion

What do you think about ORLY anons? It seems a good buy

>>19331745
Based song writer and reformed Bobo but wait for a better buying opportunity before going all in.
>>19331844
I don't know, SPCE is a meme stock that has been showing weakness lately and I think this will only add fuel to the fire. As a spaceflight company, Virgin Galactic is pretty laughable but that didn't stop idiots from pumping it in the first place, that may still happen in the future.

>>19329612
just play it dry

>>19330126
So what you are saying is buy the Brazilian cheapie dip. Petrobras here I come.

>>19330661
Exactly. Absolutely disgusting.

>>19330172
Oblivion < Everything
You = Nigger

>>19330769
Based. That's how you deal with chubby cunts. Women need more of this.

>>19331874
I have zero long term positions at this point in general. I'm not holding at this point, I'll let the dust settle.

I rather make a few points a few times in the short term and juggle bags and keep cash on hand than get stuck with heavy bags when some meme headline drops in this memeclownshit world.

Airlines pump very nicely on any positive industry news so I just ride the headline waves

>>19327079
Stoch, Trend, MA 20,100.

How do you trade anons, do you pick some stocks and follow them, or do you use scanners and trade everything, even shit you don't know nothing about, just to try to catch the price movements?

>>19329933