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>>19320376
>100,000 useless eaters

>>19320376
Everyone knows the death rate is highly inflated, see pic.

Also, about half of the deaths are relegated to NY and NJ; the virus was an absolute minnow everywhere else.

>>19320376
America isn’t real

>>19320449
Yes, death rates magically spiked when everyone had time off from work and didn't drive anywhere.

It's all faked certificates misattributing fast acting cancer and space AIDS. You cracked the case, anon. Good job.

>>19320485
>Yes, death rates magically spiked
They didn't.

>>19320404
do you not eat food? do you only suck dick?

>>19320486
Yeah that looks to be about 20,000 additional deaths. Four weeks ago. Giving us about 100k now.

That's what you'd expect from something that kills in week 3 of infection and has a lockdown Rt of barely under 1.

>>19320376
Fake fake fake fake fake fake fakefake

>>19320449
death/case percentage:
US: 5.9%
Brazil:6.2%
Spain: 10.1%
Italy: 14.3%
France: 15.5%

the numbers look a little more like they're under reported.

>>19320514
lmao, that chart literally says that by early May there were 3% fewer overall deaths than expected for the time of year.

You're retarded and illiterate.

>>19320509
very few who produce anything of value have died from the chink flu. it's mostly old, poor and minorities. darwin was right.

>>19320564
What font would like that statement in on your tombstone?

>>19320532
I'm sorry Trump misprogrammed you, but, NPC, it's important you understand this: across all ages the disease kills about 1%. For old fogies it's more like 1 in 20 or 1 in 5 that die from it.

Not the end of the world, but not the flu.

So far basically no one has it (across the US it's about 1%, in your New Yorks and Italies it's about 20%) and it's extremely transmissible (half of cases spread before the initial person shows symptoms). And if you're not careful, you will spread it and possibly kill someone. At the very least you'd give them a very sucky few weeks.

You should take the low cost step of wearing a mask at all times when indoors among other people to protect yourself and your loved ones for the next few months until there are viable treatments.

>>19320585
not an argument

>>19320551
"Cases" is a completely useless metric, and thus so is your "deaths/case percentage".
Most Euro countries had a policy of only testing very specific cases due to shortages.

Corona deaths in the US are actively overreported.
The CDC is literally telling doctors to count deaths as corona if they think it's corona, without testing.
That means anything that looks like pneumonia or the flu is counted as corona.

>>19320597
You're right.
If it gets bad enough there wont be tombstones.
We'll probably just be thrown into pits like in New York, Iran, Brazil, probably China, probably Russia, etc.

>>19320559
57k baseline. March precautions show -6k, 4/4 shows 7k extra, 4/11 9k extra, 4/18 and 4/25 weeks at least 9k extra as well (due to stable overall case numbers).

What? You think death certs are instant? And that only 26k people died in the 4/25 period? Don't tell me you're that stupid.

>>19320589
>across all ages the disease kills about 1%
Nope.
Even Cuomo says it's 0.5% at most.

>>19320643
Look at all this cope.

The CDC themselves said that by early May (i.e. post peak) 3% fewer people died than is normal for the time of year.

>>19320650
Most antibody tests'll ping for other strains of coronavirus, juking the numbers a bit. 0.5% is a lower bound, not an upper one.

>>19320682
You keep babbling.
This is important to you, isn't it?

>>19320666
Oh, this CDC stuff?

From https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/
?

Hmm, I wonder why that March dip went away. Could it be because the Bumfuck, Alaska Coroner's Office isn't up to speed on the whole 21st century big data paradigm?

>>19320699
When idiots like you are wrong, they keep babbling and shitting up the discourse with garbage information. Which makes financial forecasting more difficult.

By the way, you should look up what happened to that Stanford study. It starts with an "r" and ends with "etraction".

>>19320638
>If it gets bad enough
for who? old people on social security, welfare niggers and other assorted social parasites? do you really think anyone cares about those people? very few who make enough money to have access to moderately decent health care are dying from the flu. ask yourself why that is without referring to the television as a substitute for critical thinking.

>>19320725
You do realize 3% is within normal variation, right?
Peak deaths for the US was in March, yet by May there were fewer deaths overall than normal.
Now there are slightly more, which likely has more to do with the secondary effects of lockdown than the actual virus.

>>19320745
>When idiots like you are wrong, they keep babbling
Says the anon who posted this word salad: >>19320643 >>19320682

>>19320745
>you should look up what happened to that Stanford study. It starts with an "r" and ends with "etraction".
Source me.

>>19320777
You just don't understand that death certificates take several weeks to all make it to the CDC.

>>19320799
Nah, I'm done. Anyone else reading this argument has already seen your total retardation.

>>1/10,000 of the population
Naw I'm cool well be aight

>>19320757
The claim that it only kills the already sick and undesirable is a coping mechanism for a very real threat to the lives of everyone, and that rationalizing away American death and human death as a whole as being only reserved for "the people you don't like" is a really easy way to put yourself out there as one of the worst of us.

This will touch upon your life, or one of your family members, or one of your friends, and it will be too late for you to take back your calloused, weak-minded rationalization.

Happy Memorial Day.

>>19320817
>You just don't understand that death certificates take several weeks to make it to the CDC
It's the same every year. This is an apples-to-apples comparison.

>Nah
Damn right "nah".

>>19320638
Who are you trying to bait exactly? Who do you believe would actually buy into your lazy shitpost

>>19320894
>The claim that it only kills the already sick and undesirable is a coping mechanism
Aside from the word "undesirable", it's really not.

>>19320449
100k is just a bad flu season fluctuation. it's unironically nothing. the nothing burger bros were right all along.

>>19320637
Wrong faggot, tenfold cases have it and simply stay home or font show symptoms and never ever get tested - far more than MAGAtard theory doctors en masse make up death toll. Some doctors will, but not nearly enough to outpace how many unreported there are.

>>19320959
>100k corona in two months
>100k flu in twelve months

how many low IQ flu bros cant do math or understand r0 rates?

>>19320964
Yes, there are many more cases than tested/reported. Which is exactly why "cases" is an absolutely useless metric.
And corona deaths are wildly overreported due to the CDC (i.e. federal) guideline of counting all deaths that "look like" corona.

>>19320985
>>100k flu in twelve months
The flu only has a two-month peak too, you moron.

>>19320376
>Still believing in the jewish swindle several months in.

Congratulations on being immensely retarded, faggot.

>>19321025
In Norway the average age of the supposed corona dead is 85. Above the life expectancy with other words..

>>19321040
Flu deaths are accounted for the whole year faggot not two months, neck yourself you're shit at math

>>19321114
Yeah, see >>19320939

Belgium has the absolute worst "corona deaths per capita", and at peak about 75% of daily corona deaths occurred in elderly homes, with the majority of patients in intensive care also being elderly.
This whole general lockdown thing was a farce; we should've concentrated all efforts on quarantining the elderly and infirm.

>>19321149
Flu has about a two-month "flu season" peak every year, see >>19321040
and pic related.

Pretty much nobody dies of the flu outside of this flu season.

>>19320376
Nothingburger

>>19321188
You are correct, as a doombro my counter would intead be that the flu is indeed seasonal but covid looks like it can go all year, and that’s why it will be much worse.

>>19322132
>covid looks like it can go all year
It really doesn't.
It's heavily on the decline everywhere.

>>19320486
I hope you don't listen to these idiots, get out there and open up. Church services, memorial travel, we need to get these theaters and restaurants open. All the countries are faking data! Every doctor is lying!

>>19322138
Yeah due to lockdowns. Do you think there’s any other reason a novel, highly contagious virus would stop spreading through a virgin population?

>Tomorrow, on Memorial Day, we will officially have 100,000 American deaths from Coronavirus.

Sounds like much very good numbers to me.

>>19322222
>the lockdowns and social distancing and masks really helped!!!!
It was a plan that was not very well thought out and created high unemployment numbers along with destroying a $19 trillion dollar economy. I'm pretty sure closing off from China early helped us a lot more.

>>19320449
>everyone knows about this bullshit I just made up

>>19322176
>Every doctor is lying!
You do realize there are plenty of doctors and experts speaking out against the lockdowns right?
And that they're often the ones being silenced and deplatformed?

Hell, even the most prominent virologist in Belgium spoke out against closing schools, but they closed them anyway.
And this is the guy who's been invited to the national news network every day to explain things.

>>19322222
>Yeah due to lockdowns
lmao
Belgium had one of the stricter lockdowns in Europe, and it has the absolute worst death rate per capita in the world.

>>19322325
Yeah, I totally made up what the CDC officially stated.

>>19322307
> so seething he can’t even acknowledge the get
Once the chinks had come over we needed lockdowns to avoid takeoff. Sure the travel bans helped, a lot, but unless the whole world had banned travel from China in January it would be too late (possibly eatlier).
I’m not pissing on Trump. There are a few leaders who have done a better job with covid, but not too many. He’s a man of many talens, if epidemiology isn’t one of them he might be excused.
But the facts remain, this virus won’t end until we find a vaccine/cure or it has taken millions of American lives.

>>19322414
>this virus won’t end until we find a vaccine/cure or it has taken millions of American lives.
Oh, the vaccine shills.

>>19322414
>this virus won’t end until we find a vaccine/cure or it has taken millions of American lives.
fucking lol
Here's the guy behind the "millions of American deaths" bs.

>>19322479
> the guy behind the million dead claim
What are you talking about? Anyone can do the math, it’s super easy. The antibody study from spain (the most reliable so far) showed 5% of their population had antibodies. Spain has a population of 46.75 million, 5% of those are infected which gives 2,337,500 infected at the time of the study. At the same time, Spain had 27k dead and 27k / 2,337,500 = 1.15%.
That’s how everyone arrived at the 1.1%-1.2% IFR. Apply that to a population, any population, and a little over 1 out of every hundred infected will die. If all of America’s 330 million people become infected, then a bit over 3.3 million will die. If half of America gets infected, 1.65 million will die. 100% infected is definitely too high but 50% is probably too low, if we end lockdowns, so between 1.5-3 million dead Americans is pretty much a given with our current course. And with infections on such a scale, it wouldn’t just be old people dying. Yes, more old than young, but it would be many, many times more young healthy people dead from covid than would normally die from flu.
The only thing that determines how many will die is how many will get infected. With R0 this high, the only thing that can prevent millions of dead is a vaccine or lockdowns. Unless you know a fourth option, every American will end up with a choice: lockdowns, vaccine, or millions dead. What’s your pick?

>>19322639
>If all of America’s 330 million people become infected, then a bit over 3.3 million will die. If half of America gets infected, 1.65 million will die. 100% infected is definitely too high but 50% is probably too low
That's not how viruses work you absolute child.

>>19322655
Ok nimrod let’s hear it, point out anything incorrect about what I said. If you feel generous, why not also share a little insight into how viruses do work?

>>19322639
>What’s your pick?
Vitamin C and D.

>>19320894

I've been working this entire time cuck furloughed cuck boy, government 6 figure DoD contract.

Less than 10 sick at a job site with almost 700 hundred.

This has not impacted me or anyone I know at all in one of the most population dense areas of the country.

Keep spreading fear locked in your apartment with CNN to keep you informed faggot