/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19302921
You are correct, but this isn't really /biz/ related.

>>19302943
All women are whores. Better?

>>19302921
correct, it is one big scam. most of the mental illnesses they peddle don't even exist.

>>19302943
Yeah well actually it is because biz is garbage and failure. The only way biz retards think they can get rich is sex and lotto tickets, but since those are rarely Pan out, biz defaults to gossip and pol.

>>19302921
What about a male therapist?
Part of my make it plans involve regular sessions with the best I can find

>>19303080
Same thing. They tend to not comprehend actual hardships. Most people havent endured real hardships. The most you will get is a random ass pill and some bullshit about "changing your mindset".

ive been taking anti depressants for about 2 years, they've helped me a lot. prozac/fluoxetine ssri.

its helped me get into a better head space, im not taking it currently but its helped me reach a more stable position.

at the time you dont think much will help and you dont want the help. so you need to force yourself, but you have to make that decision.

>>19302921
>Here take this pill goy
Kek no thanks

>>19303157
the medication is to correct your fucked up brain chemistry. it does work. but it must be done consistently over a long period

>>19303153
then your problems were never a big deal to begin with

>>19303116
So broken brain is for life huh

>>19303179
Lmfao no, it's not. They even say themselves "these pills are not meant to fix you. They are meant to get you more stable. They attack the symptoms, not the cause. You have to 'talk it out' to fix the source".

>>19303196
Pretty much. Once you reached your breaking point, that's that. You are NEVER supposed to reach that low or you will never be the same.

>>19303179
>your fucked up brain chemistry
Isn't literally every sensation you've ever had a form of brain chemistry? How the fuck is depression any different than any other "fucked up" brain activity?

>>19303116
I once went to a female therapist and poured my heart out about how suicidal and depressed I am/was especially as child. Then she told me I should think about my future and told me to leave. Top kek.

>>19303186
oh you know all about my problems, t hats incredible psychoanalytical skill you have anon, you should consider getting into the field yourself.

I had some things happen to me that still haunts me to this day.
The kind that makes you wake up at 4 am sweating profusely. One thing i can say is that it's with you till the day you die, the only thing that will cure you is lead through your head at 375 m/s.
Not trying to seem edgy, that's just how it is. Can't really fix a Mexican who witnessed his village being butchered by cartels with some prozac and wishful thinking.

I like it. It's an interesting job, basically the same drugs every time, very simple algorithm. We don't even know how half the shit works so it's OK if it takes 4 or 5 tries before you make progress. No other fierd in health care.

>>19303254
pretty much how it goes. On one hand, it's not their fault as there is literally nothing they can do. On the other, they shouldnt be pretending they are actually helping you.
Snake oil

>>19303275
anon, Im sorry you dropped your ice cream.

>>19303277
Hope you have a better life anon

The problem is most men who go to therapists are incels in one way or another, and most therapists are women who spent their lives getting railed by chad and Tyrone

The idea that a female therapist can help an incel with “mental health” problems is just so revoltingly bluepilled anyone who advocates for this deserves the electric chair

The entire system is broken from start to finish and needs to be completely purged

>>19303454
>The problem is most men who go to therapists are incels in one way or another,
cope. You got offended, huh :). Truth hurt?
>and most therapists are women who spent their lives getting railed by chad and Tyrone
Missing the point. Women have life easier than males. Thats just a fact. BECAUSE of that fact, they dont actually experience hardships minus a few rare cases.
>The idea that a female therapist can help an incel with “mental health” problems is just so revoltingly bluepilled anyone who advocates for this deserves the electric chair
Read above. Also, youre a dumbass for assuming all male problems stem from the fact that they want pussy and cant get laid. Are you a retard femanon?
So you are saying this anon: >>19303277
is miserable for being an "incel"? 0IQ post, dipshit.
>The entire system is broken from start to finish and needs to be completely purged
Only thing you said that makes a lick of sense

>>19303482
>t.

Please go back

"Mental illness" is a meme

A new mental illness is added or removed regularly

Made up shit for the pharmaceutical industry and doctors to make money

It's a real thing, but the real cases worthy of therapy are clouded by the bullshit tumblerinas who think being told they're fat is a hardship and make up fake mental problems for themselves to appear interesting.

>>19302921
>They think like a fucking 12 year old would
that's women in general

and yes, the whole "self-help" industry that is getting promoted is shit and scam
the truly good stuff doesn't get shilled in media
like /sig/ threads

>>19303196
no media, a garden and walks in the forest are the cure

>>19303254
Imagine being a grown man and going for therapy lmfao you faggot

>>19303539
That's not an intelligent response. Well, neither was your original post so whatever.

>>19302921
Funnily enough I have a project that's almost done I plan on releasing on Twitter to profit from this. I won't say too much bc you will all spoil the fun but normies who think they're depressed will make me rich buying something useless.

>>19303667
I was like 18 or 20 kek.

>>19303608
this. It hurts the credibility of the industry. Some things do make sense though (I dont like the word "depression". Thats fake. "Prolong sadness" is a better way of saying it. Anyways, it has been documented that prolonged sadness actually does shrink parts of the brain. Namely the parts that deal with memory. Possibly more too, but I dont recall it).

>>19303621
>real cases worthy of therapy
The real cases are the ones that CANT be resolved through therapy, dipshit. It's the other way around. The more basic the problem, the more likely "therapy" will actually work (and therapy is just bullshit to begin with which is why it can only work on bullshit problems).

>>19303482
imagine seething this hard because a post hit close to home

>>19303454
before people used to go to priests and confession, which wasn't much better. Frocked men also don't live the real life.
Best you can hope for is a relative or friends to fall back on, but basically we're in this life alone.

I do think some male psychologists are able to truly understand suffering though.

>>19303687
Old enough to know better

>>19303718
...huh? What you call "seething" is me stating facts. Imagine trying to discredit my post in such a childish way just to try to gain leverage, lmfao

>>19303718
>I do think some male psychologists are able to truly understand suffering though.
Ya. Stuff like this guy >>19303277 is so relatable among male psychologists, huh?

>>19303254
damn, her pussy probably has never been more dry.

>>19303773
The blackpill

>>19303714
a good friend you can open up to and a beer is cheaper and mostly better

So...How can we monetize this?

>>19302921
Sorry to hear you've had experiences anon. But psychologists aren't different from other professions, in the sense that that finding a good one isn't easy. In my experience most plumbers overcharge and do a shit job job, but I can't denounce the whole profession.

>>19303823
>psychologists aren't different from other professions,
False. Professions vary in their credibility. Some are highly credible. Others are about selling people snake oil.

>>19303116
this is how. you have to talk to a male who's been through similar hardships, made it through, and isn't a complete mess. doesn't matter if they're a therapist but if you found a male therapist who's been to hell and back, he might be able to help. might. and again, they have to have really made it out the other side, not just larping as such. so many larping damaged retards out there thinking they made it out the other side. very sad

>>19303679

>>19302921
Mental illness is an American problem. In America, everyone is always looking for an excuse for their shitty behavior. They never want to admit to themselves that maybe they're just an entitled piece of shit that sees themself as a temporarily embarrassed millionaire. Also, lack of daily exercise and poor diet will cause 99% of these so called "symptoms". It's basically a bunch of fat Americans that want an excuse for their fatness.

>>19303766
all evil stems from the same evil
some people shoot up a school over some bullying. some people go through actual horrors of war and manage to deal with it

The internal psyche can be understood by anyone, because we've all lived it in past lives or the collective unconscious.

I know you won't understand that but there it is.

>>19303950
Finding someone relatable also doesnt fix problems. If you have your arms and legs chopped off and you see some random person had it the same way, you wont magically be like "someone else suffered the same as me therefore my problems went away". Real life isnt that simple.

what most people dont get is not all problems have solutions. You wouldnt know this unless you actually hit a really low point and I mean so low that it fucks your mind up completely. You most likely havent which is why you think the way you do. Overly optimistic and idealistic instead of being realistic.

>>19303608

Mental illness is real but the cure is a meme.
Most people need to start exercising, eat better, stop doing drugs and get the fuck away from screens.

This would solve 95% of mental health problems in the west, the remaining 5% can get pills.

>>19303954
>tfw resorts to memes to save face

>>19303957
>Also, lack of daily exercise and poor diet will cause 99% of these so called "symptoms". It's basically a bunch of fat Americans that want an excuse for their fatness.
Thats this guy's problem, huh?: >>19303277
You have a very simplistic world view.

>>19303965
You didnt give a counter argument to what I said. You just ignored it.
I said just because someone else experiences the same problems and you find them "relatable" doesnt magically mean your problems will go away. Youre not understanding this.

>>19304034
it is a counter argument actually but you seem too lost to understand it. Those who have lived evil and recovered know the path to recovery.

>>19303999
Youre fucking dumb considering ive done 17k pushups in a month with 45lb, 51k situps, curl a 20lb dumbbell 1800 times per arm without stopping (once every 2 seconds), curled 50lb dumbbells, ran every other day, ran the mile in 4 min and 50 seconds, etc.

As for pills, what the fuck? Even the mental health "experts" themselves have told me pills are not a solution. They just use them to try to "reduce the symptoms, not cure it". Again, you have a very simplistic view on this.

>>19304017
Start working out daily. It releases chemicals in the brain that will take your mind off these things. Use the trauma and anger as a strength, not a weakness.

>>19304063
>Those who have lived evil and recovered know the path to recovery.
No, they dont because not one solution fixes all of them. Very simplistic.

Everyone is satisfied differently therefore not all paths have the same effect for everyone.

>>19304007
>doesn’t even deny he’s a r*dditor

Just blow your brains out copefag

>>19304097
You've got to be kidding me. Read: >>19304065
I trained for 4 years. I stopped BECAUSE of something that fucked my head up.

>>19304109
Seeing how your posts in particular are extremely low effort, im just hiding them now.

>>19304120
Holy shit you're retarded. The point im trying to make is that most mental illness is bullshit, but not all of it. You're always gonna have people that have trauma like that and really are schizo, but im saying most people that claim mental illness really just have a nutritional problem.

>>19302921
psychologist irl, male as well
Its a money grab but all professions are. That being said though, your views are naive.

>>19303994
i said might. someone who made it out the other side, from a very low point are the only people who can help, if help is possible. this is a very rare thing to find, as i said.

i was force hospitalized, galsite by my sociopathic parents to the point where i'm no contact now becasue of it. left home as a teen and haven't looked back, extreme poverty etc etc i don't even have a high school diploma because i couldn't function enough to go to finish school. my life was hell. they drove me into a mental hospital and gaslit the doctors into thinking i was worse than i really was... the only person who was ever able to understand the insanity i went through was a therapist who had also been falsely diagnosed, medicated and scapgoated as a crazy person by a sick family. i agree it's almost impossible to find this because it's so rare and ultimately, you're on your own in terms of getting through the hell.

>>19304141
Says the fool that cant even read the op.
And youre retarded as FUCK because MY point was that REAL issues cant be solved through bullshit generic answers as that only works for bullshit minuscule problems, not REAL issues. What you said was the fucking point of my op, dipshit. That therapy and generic advice only works for bullshit problems, not real problems.

>>19304143
>naive
Care to explain? Nothing I said was naive.

>>19302921
Just going to give my 2 cents.

I work in a prison with mental cases.

Some diseases can be treated very well with meds (the antipsychotic kind), other """diseases""" (I.E. all things concerning personality) can't.

How do I know? I've seen people go from batshit insane to normal. Consistently normal.

Best effects are reached if they also become devout Christians (even of the heretic variety), i'm not even kidding.

I've also seen no use in anything else but pills fixing brain chemistry though.

An other thing worth noting is the high correlation between insanity and drug use. Make of this what you will.

>>19304201
most psychs have experienced some hardship, its why most get into the field. Psychs dont judge, they assess then come up with solutions.
Positive thinking actually works, you underestimate the power of a good mindset.
You say they think like a 12 year old yet your post is very childish, perhaps that of what i would expect from an 11 year old.

Overall, its just very clear from your post and your responses that you don't know what you're talking about. That's okay, everyone starts from zero initially, maybe with some more knowledge acquisition you'll have a better understanding rather than just shitposting on this basket weaving forum.

>>19304295
>most psychs have experienced some hardship, its why most get into the field.
Okay? That's like saying all earthquakes are the same. They are not. They vary in magnitude.
>Psychs dont judge, they assess then come up with solutions.
"solutions" which involve pills trial and error style and pointless advice from a therapist.
>Positive thinking actually works, you underestimate the power of a good mindset.
Lol. Now THIS is naive. Like that anon above that watched his village massacred. He just needs some"happy thoughts" and everything is fairytale and rainbows!
>You say they think like a 12 year old yet your post is very childish, perhaps that of what i would expect from an 11 year old.
How so? Back that up. Is it due to my insults? You can easily ignore them and focus on the actual meat of what I say.

>Overall, its just very clear from your post and your responses that you don't know what you're talking about.
No, it's more like you are biased and got heavily offended I questioned the dogma.
>That's okay, everyone starts from zero initially, maybe with some more knowledge acquisition you'll have a better understanding rather than just shitposting on this basket weaving forum.
Lmao, you mad. Anyways, Ive been confined twice in mental hospitals, have talked to like 5 psychiatrists (usually the ones inside the mental hospitals or the ones that evaluate you before sending you to one), and talked to like a couple of therapists and/or psychologists.

It's bullshit.
Pills = attack the symptoms ONLY (even THEY have said as much)
Therapy = random "feel good" advice. Generic bullshit advice.

Seems I have more experience with them than you do.

>>19304189
Cool, you're so smart. You are now the king of this SriLankan tea enthusiast forum.

>>19303205
Well I'm here now. What the fucking go from here.

>>19304349
>I've been confined twice in mental hospitals, have talked to like 5 psychiatrists

Yeah, I'm sure the mental health professionals are the problem. Were all bad, you're 100% correct.

>>19304663
Point being not all problems have solutions. Imagine missing the point this hard

>>19303179
Imagine believing that a magic pill can "fix" you by changing your brain chemistry.

>>19304663
>i can't prove you're wrong so i'm just gonna say that you're out of your mind
Niggers

In a way nothing positive comes out of negativity unless it means literally gassing kikes or something but think about it. If you act hostile against your fellow man and never smile, is your life posivite or good?

>>19302921
Just be yourself bro