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>Based Persian goods

Once democracy is restored in sand nigger land.

>>18478
Unless Iran turns into a Western Ally they will never ever have a good economy to speak of. Besides what will you even buy in Iran? Persian rugs?

>>18505
>Once democracy is restored in sand nigger land.
>restored

>>18535
You're right, that will never happen.

>>18523

>Unless Iran turns into a Western Ally they will never ever have a good economy to speak of.

They've actually been trying to improve their relations with the West for awhile (former president Ahmadinejad's rhetoric notwithstanding) and some polls show that most Iranians want more cordial relations with the United States, of course not if it means having to accept the legitimacy of Israel. And really, even Britain has gotten mad at the US for not taking deals Iran put on the table in regards to the nuclear issue. The main problem is the USA's relationship with countries like Israel or Saudi Arabia which often determine the course of American foreign policy towards Iran and all this does is make Iran more committed to its Russian and Chinese allies both economically and politically.

>Besides what will you even buy in Iran? Persian rugs?

Rugs, kebab, oil.

Iranian oil could probably offset the petro dollar Arab kingdoms. Another reason Saudi won't stand for American and Iranian relations to improve.

>>18605
>Oil

I doubt it.

No tinfoil hat here, but the only reason the U.S ever invaded middle eastern countries is for delicious jew oil. Places like Iran only want to become allys so they can either get close and stab them in the back, or so the U.S will stop killing them.

It's all a fucking ploy.

>>18637

>or so the U.S will stop killing them.

I don't see what's wrong with that. Also, Iran needs western companies most of all to invest in its economy if it expects to experience a more meaningful recovery. Iranians have more of problem with American foreign policy than America as a culture. Most of them could care less about that stuff as long as the USA isn't trying to shove its values or authority down their throat.

Also, some of America's allies like Japan are a bit more dependent or at least in need of Iranian exports like their oil. So the United States often just frustrates it own alliances by being so obstinate

>>18605
>Iran and all this does is make Iran more committed to its Russian and Chinese allies both economically and politically


You do know that Kazakhstan is doing a lot better than Iran for having a free market and being open to the west? Iran is making Israel an issue when it's not supposed to. Like Syria, these stubborn attitudes about the west will only hurt them


>oil

But they already distribute and Japan is open to them for businesses

>Iranian oil

They barely pass the one million mark on rare occasions a small blimp

>>18684
>United States often just frustrates it own alliances


Seeing as that the Japanese do not need as much oil as other modern countries. Iran could easily turn itself into a free market by distancing itself from religion and business. They are so focused on this arab religion they have no hope in recovering from this crazy inflation

>>18684
>America as a culture
In the sense that we all think they're terrorists? Or do you mean government wise, laws and such.
>>18733
>They barely pass the one million mark on rare occasions a small blimp

Sand nigger countries have lots of untapped area due to lack of industrialization, keep in mind they're around 200 years behind the rest of the world in every way besides weapons.

>>18767
This is Iran and you are not going to see much improvement in production numbers unless they have the technology to do so. But they do not because they have a very closed economy and no one wants to business with them. Which is why they are forced to use Brazilian meat that is banned in several countries

>>18782
They want the technology by becoming allies.

Mass contradictions.

>>18812
Iran needs to change from it's North Korean mentality about the west

>>18733
>You do know that Kazakhstan is doing a lot better than Iran for having a free market and being open to the west? Iran is making Israel an issue when it's not supposed to. Like Syria, these stubborn attitudes about the west will only hurt them

Believe it or not, Iranians put the sovereignty, pride and self reliance of their nation first (shocking I know). Israel may not seem like a big issue to you, but it's a big issue to people who actually believe that the Palestinians were robbed of their land and who are allies with those whom Israel has invaded on several occasions and is currently occupying their land (illegally according to United Nations, mind you). You're essentially asking a country to simply let that shit slide.

We have a similar policy in the USA when we say we refuse to negotiate with terrorists and the fact that the Iranian economy, for all its perils, hasn't completely tanked is a testament to how much abuse the Iranians are willing to take for the sake of the preservation of their culture, religion and their own sense of justice. These guys launched a satellite into space while still under massive sanctions and currently remain among the fastest developing nations in terms of science and technology, relying heavily on their own resources, not necessarily cause they want to, but because they have to.

>But they already distribute and Japan is open to them for businesses

Their money has been locked up in foreign bank accounts for awhile now. They sell to the Japanese, but they aren't always able to get their money, which limits the amount of trade they're able to engage in. The sanctions relief helped the rial because they were finally able to withdraw their money.

>They barely pass the one million mark on rare occasions a small blimp

They have some of the largest oil reserves in the world.

>>18856

america needs to stop being pissrael's bitch boy

>>18918
Israel please go

>>18900
>sovereignty, pride and self reliance of their nation first

So living with crazy inflation fits under what category? Or being several steps behind the west?

>believe that the Palestinians

Why would they care about people from a different area? Iran is with the crazy inflation right now. They are only hurting themselves out of arrogance and ignorance.

> hasn't completely tanked

Living under hyper inflation ? You think that's living? Huge problems with poverty ? Or how modernization is still a struggle for this country

>They have

Exportation is below the one million mark meaning that Iran needs to forget about the stupidest shit or continue to live like they do.

>>18918
You mean how US gives money to Israel and other countries? Israel is a poor country just like the rest of the middle east and north africa

>>18900
Iran's government has no interest in Palestine except as a means to apply continual pressure on Israel.

The USA would gladly negotiate with terrorists if the terrorists had something the USA wanted (and couldn't acquire via JDAM).

>>18856
What are you talking about? Iranian people really like western stuff, the Muslims are fringe. Their old president was just a nutbag, and now that he's gone the new one is opening peace talks and negotiations, and being much friendlier with us. Follow the news.

>>19026

>the Muslims are fringe

no, they're not. Religious piety in Iran has actually been on the rise in the last ten years, including among the more Westernized upper class.

>>19062
I really shouldn't have just said "Muslims" when I meant Extremists, I'm just American and it slips.

>>18966
>>18966
>So living with crazy inflation fits under what category? Or being several steps behind the west?

Inflation is bad, but for many Iranians, they're willing to suffer through it because there are things more valuable to them, like their religion or their sense of national self-determination, bot of which they feel would come under attack were they change their policy (and if you know anything about the history of Iran and the West, you'd know their concerns are warranted).

>Why would they care about people from a different area?

Like any nation, there are times when Iran will not get involved in the conflicts of other countries (Azerbaijan comes to mind), but there are those whose conflicts they will get involved because it directly impacts them (Syria, Lebanon, Palestine).

>Living under hyper inflation ? You think that's living? Huge problems with poverty ? Or how modernization is still a struggle for this country

Again, all these are sucky conditions, but the country hasn't collapsed and, for all the problems it faces, has managed to survive and progress at a fairly moderate pace (even some of the United States' allies in the region aren't nearly as modernized as Iran currently is). The United States has spent tons of time and money trying to isolate Iran in hopes of making it grovel in regards to the nuclear or israeli issue, but instead all its done is feed the Iranian persecution complex.

>Exportation is below the one million mark meaning that Iran needs to forget about the stupidest shit or continue to live like they do.

Or you know, the United States could just recognize the Iranians aren't going to change their mind about building nuclear power plants for themselves and stop sanctioning them so their market can expand their market. Iranians are as dependent on the public sector as they are because of the sanctions. Sanctions relief would seriously benefit the private sector as well as the state.

>>19227
>things more valuable to them

More important than a stable economy and infrastructure?

> you'd know their concerns are warranted

Seeing as the Iran is not the first country the west has had bad relationships, I sincerely do not think so. US had a massive war from Japan but did it stop them from reconstructing the country into what it is right now? Iran is letting religion get in the way. Look how different Turks are living compared to Iranians

>country hasn't collapsed

How they are living they are in state of collapse with the inflated currency and no modernization.

> trying to isolate Iran

So, it can stop being so stupid? Why is Iran picking a fight with a culture they can not win? Persians follow some dirty arab religion because they made the choice to do so and will continue to make mistakes

>>19303

>More important than a stable economy and infrastructure

yes

>Seeing as the Iran is not the first country the west has had bad relationships, I sincerely do not think so.

Then you're a fucking retard who knows nothing about the history of this region and how the West has royally fucked Iran on several occasions.

>no modernization.

That's wrong though

>So, it can stop being so stupid?

"They should let other countries dominate and abuse them. How stupid they are for believing they have any worth or dignity"

go back to /pol/ and whine about all your problems being because of niggers and america not embracing anarcho-capitalism already.

>>18523

Persian saffron is the best in the world. The same is true for pistachios.