/biz/ - Business & Finance

I already got covid once so I'm safe. Open the damn country back up already

>>19285424
With SARS you could be reinfected a year later.

I wager around 0%.

covid was an excuse, not a cause

>>19285412
More people will continue to get it, but it’s no more deadly than the flu, across all age groups.
So who gives a fuck

This was a meme virus 80 thousand deaths ago,
and everyone will continue to act in desperate denial of the reality of our situation until either someone they know ends up in a morgue,
or their own death is announced on Facebook with the intention being to serve as cautionary tale.
But instead, their death will be rationalized away with them being fat or retarded, and probably deserved it.

The same people who flooded the internet with conspiracy theories as a coping mechanism for the horrible voting decisions they have made will be the ones most vulnerable with their loose grasp on reality.

At this point we've guaranteed that this will touch upon everyone's life to some degree, and seeing as how we're only 2 months in, you should buckle the fuck up :^)

>>19285560
indeed

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths-05102020-1.pdf

99% of covid deaths have underlying conditions.

if you have a serious underlying, your doctor already warned you. so stay home.

healthy people can circulate to create herd immunity.

>>19285585
What does it matter if they had underlying conditions? If the healthcare system gets overwhelmed there will be a cascade effect of deaths because people can't get treatment.

>>19285715
if you have an underlying condition additional stress from any pathogen can kill you.

if you are old, have underlying condition and get sick, you are dead.

you can't shut down the economy for some old people dying. they die everyday. you can't save everyone. if i was 80, i'd expect every day to be my last.

this is like saying the speed of a vehicular accident has no bearing on the chance of fatality.

>cascade effect of deaths because people can't get treatment.
there will now be second order effects. as the economic duress starts to weigh on people out of work, suicide attempts have been increasing. many with surgeries have had to delay their operations by a year. the non mainstream news is not covering this.

>"Personally I think it's time," said deBoisblanc. "I think, originally, this (the shelter-in-place order) was put in place to flatten the curve and to make sure hospitals have the resources to take care of COVID patients. We have the current resources to do that and our other community health is suffering." DeBoisblanc said the numbers are unprecedented: "We've never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time," he said. "I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks."

shutdowns will cause more death than nuflu itself.

there would be no second wave if herd immunity was allowed by having the nuflu circulate. stay scared and irrational like the cattle you are.

>>19285412
Doesnt matter the histeria all fake anyway.

It's so fucking easy to create hysteria in the population to pass any law you feel like. See: War of the World radio broadcast.

>>19285715
>If the healthcare system gets overwhelmed there will be a cascade effect of deaths because people can't get treatment.
This is a major risk, and one that people outside of healthcare fail to understand.
The system runs on very close margins, like everything else in this country. A few percent swing increase in ER patients and there's suddenly a real shortage of capacity.
And the usual relief valves: transfer patients to other hospitals, call in additional doctors ... those aren't available when every hospital is seeing an increase in demand.
More people are getting more sick by things other than covid. Because they're not able to get treatment as early as before (either because the system is overwhelmed or because they were simply reluctant to go to the doctor at the onset of symptoms), which means they require more or more complex treatment than they would have needed otherwise, putting higher demand on the system and taking up even more capacity.

This is a healthcare shitstorm. Our best defense was to keep people at home and hope so few get sick and require hospitalization, that it doesn't strain the system.

It isn't going to be jut covid patients dying, it's other treatable diseases that are going to take more lives. Strokes. Heart attacks. Pulmonary Embolism. Etc. And with more people out and about, that's more trauma, car accidents, etc. This isn't just about ventilators and figuring out how to treat covid patients, or elderly covid patients with preexisting conditions. The tragedy is when we can't treat everybody else that we otherwise should be able to.

>>19285794
> that reddit spacing
>>>/r/the_fat_fuck_donald

>>19285412
0%. And it's much worse than that. They don't know yet how many people infected get post-viral symptons and for how long. There might be a huge number of people infected who recover but still will suffer from debilitating fatigue and will lose their jobs.

>>19286005
i've been on 4chan since 2005.

you've resorted to the lowest of insults because you have nothing to credible to argue.

i'll spell it out for your smooth brain:
nuflu pushes people over the edge. people so close to the edge that anything could have pushed them over.

don't worry little babby. the big bad nuflu won't hurt you. but you might hurt yourself from being so stupid!

>>19286005
your existance is an insult to everyone on this board

bros i work at amazon and let me tell you.
before this whole thing started there were maybe 1500 people just in my hub. since then there has been a batch of new hires rolling in EVERY WEEK. this doesn’t mean we’re at a million employees in the warehouse, most of them leave after a couple days because this job sucks balls. but we’re probably floating around 2400 people in the building per shift right now i’d imagine. with a lot of those being turnstyle new hires.

we’ve only been notified of 3 confirmed cases at this hub. people are in charge of sanitizing their own stations, and while they’ve tried to encourage social distancing by cutting down chairs in break areas, there’s still grouping and just blatant disregard for all that shit. i’m no conspiracy theorist but the numbers don’t make sense to me, i think this place should have gone up like a book of matches in terms of virus spread.

>>19285412
We saw it was all bullshit, not a threat in the least. If they try another shut down people are going to resist.

>>19285412
its a flu, you absolute retard. turn off the tv news

>>19285424
No you're not.
Covid19 works differently, you can get infected again soon, many people did

>>19285486
Flu u recover quickly, covid can take a month and it can fuck your insides

>>19285412
>le heckin second wave!

>>19286177
It spreads in clusters though. Most people infected don't transmit the disease but those who do can transmit it to a lot of people. That's why the virus didn't take off sooner around the world, after it appeared in China. And the risk of infection is much higher in closed spaces.

>>19285412
Man

where's the fucking vaccine???

>second wave
Nigger who the fuck cares, we all know normalfags aren't going to fucking do shit until there's a vaccine or if they're even more retarded, a "cure". If anyone is worried then they can follow wearing a mask or staying home and all that meme shit on their own

>>19286104
you did the same with calling someone “cattle” earlier. hypocrite.

God I hope the second wave isn't a meme so my university would continue with distance studying and distance exams the next semester.

>>19286269

right and that’s my point. this IS a prime location for an outbreak to happen yet nothing has.

i didn’t think it was a nothingburger at first but i’ve been second guessing that lately

>>19285412
>believes the corona meme
>believes the second wave meme
>fundamentally believes the news media is to educate meme
>believes the “don’t gossip at work but it’s ok to listen to corporate gossip cuz it’s called news” meme

Anon, I....

>Businesses are opening back up. No one is wearing masks and everyone is ignoring social distancing.

so... exactly like Sweden

>What are the odds that we will avoid a second wave of infections allowing the economy to recover?

Second wave doesn't matter. Sweden is on its way to heard-immunity. Almost nothing happened. Disaster avoided, life back to normal.

>>19285412
We wont, but nobody cares anymore, fuck ruining everything so boomers dont get the cold

>>19286576
Yes and total lock down is a very sledge hammer-like approach to the problem. But it's also very difficult to identify where clusters are likely to appear to be able to make more fine-grained rules.

>>19285412
avoid a second wave we will not. It will be in circulation forever. The thing that will be different is that they won't shut everything down and will just let people die. Like they do with the influenza that wastes old cunts in nursing homes every year. we had ~3-400 old cunts die of the flu last year, nursing homes locked down and all and no one batted an eye. Rona will be no different.

>>19285794
I work with mental health charities, they say suicides and domestic abuse have skyrocketed. This whole lockdown has done more damage than its prevented.

>>19286648
yep. Poverty will kill magnitudes more than ronachan

>>19285560
https://www.worldometers.info/
23 million people have died this year.
55 million born.

Your meme disease has killed a whopping total of most of a normal day's births. That's part of one, single day. Out of 365.

Or 0.002% of the net positive birthrate since the start of the year. Being absolutely generous with classifications of covid deaths.

>>19286622
And Sweden has had what, 10x as many deaths as its neighbouring countries? Maybe they will avoid a second wave thanks to herd immunity but we don't know the long term effects of the virus yet. Some people in Canada who were studied after having recovered from SARS still had problems with fatigue, pain and shortness of breath 10 years after infection and 40-50% were unable to work. Covid-19 isn't as bad as SARS but if more people get infected and some experience similar post-viral conditions it might have a similar effect or worse on the economy.

>>19286382
You’re the normalfag here. 4chan and /biz/ of all places are content with staying on lockdown indefinitely.

>>19286738
>His life style actually changed after the lockdown
>He didn't stay inside all the time before lockdown
Get the fuck out bitch

>>19285424
LOL You are not you idiot. You can get influenza again even if you get infected once. Covid is no different.

>>19285412
this silly webm is turning me into a coomer again

>>19286702
97,655 deaths divided by 1,645,353 US cases
equals a 5.9% death rate.
If all 303 million Americans were to be infected, we'd be looking at 17,877,000 deaths.
consider the economic repercussion seeing as how things are with only 98k dead right now.

and we have a 6.4% death rate on a global scale.
If all 8 billion of us on planet Earth were to get sick, we'd see 512 million deaths

It's not my responsibility to get you to take this seriously.

I have a better chance of making it if it doesn't recover desu
Easier to pinpoint things to get into than a normal situation where its all insider moves

>>19285412
sweet vishnu who is he?

>>19285900
Shut the fuck up stupid doctor bitch, we’re onto your scam now. We are going to take our country back and there’s nothing you eggheads can say that will stop us.

>>19286860
cuck

>>19286821
Except that’s all fake news, those numbers are literally make believe

>>19285412
stop posting this /porn/ shit you MASSIVE FAGGOT!

>>19285412
what wave are we on? didn't we already do second wave?

>>19285560
So.much.this.

>>19285412
So without virus even being cured in US people decided that it magically went away and its safe to go out? Is that plain retardation or extreme debilism?

>This was a meme virus 80 thousand deaths ago,
>and everyone will continue to act in desperate denial of the reality of our situation until either someone they know ends up in a morgue,
>or their own death is announced on Facebook with the intention being to serve as cautionary tale.
>But instead, their death will be rationalized away with them being fat or retarded, and probably deserved it.
>The same people who flooded the internet with conspiracy theories as a coping mechanism for the horrible voting decisions they have made will be the ones most vulnerable with their loose grasp on reality.
>At this point we've guaranteed that this will touch upon everyone's life to some degree, and seeing as how we're only 2 months in, you should buckle the fuck up :^)

>>19286918
If you're not even going to take the most basic form of the information we have available to us as real,
me spoonfeeding you the reality of our situation is pointless.

We're repeating 100 year old history and you can either choose to take it seriously or not.

>>19285585
the majority of our country is overweight and a significant amount are obese, so that's concerning.

>>19285412
Everyone already has it.

>>19286821
You're a fucking dumbass. It's 1.9% at the very best, and it can't be generalized like that because the very few who even catch it shake it off easily unless they are both fat and old, or have a host of comorbidities. They have slipped through the cracks undetected. If the entire nation were to get infected the death rate would plummet even more than it did with the discrepancy between the real and sensationalist figures.
If you are such a fat disgusting unhealthy pierce of shit then self isolate, wear a mask, wash your hands, wear your face visor and security buttplug, and then shut the fuck up about this giant nothingburger. I'm not wearing a mask and I'm not being particularly careful to avoid spreading it if I'm in the latent stage or on asymptomatic carrier. I can only hope to be chosen as a vessel for Corona-chans gift. This is literally the best thing that could ever happen because overweight, obese, old, and nigger people are the exact groups I hate the most, and she is killing them exclusively while good people shrug it off like it's nothing. I hope you catch it and die. I hope your fat mother, father, and baby sister catch it. I hope it goes on a tear through every rehab, assisted living facility and skilled nursing facility. These are not people we are talking about, their lives hold no value and the entire world benefits as each one draws its last breath. It's beautiful really, how such a harmless virus, a fucking coronavirus, has so many terrified. They know they are evil and deserve what is coming. You'll notice it's only bad people who fear this. That is how it should be. God is on our side.

>>19285560
brainlet

>>19286786
>good, good, let the coom flow through you

>>19285412
It's seasonal retard. No transmissibility. Come the next flu season(depends on location). Probably September-October there will be a delusional second wave started, there will be more cases because they are counting for longer. Have you even looked into the research on the pcr test? You do realise they have never fully filtered and isolated the virus? You do realise that rna strands can come from various bodily functions?

>you

>>19287049
He thinks the 'second wave' increased death rate was caused by a muted virus ahahahahhahah

Just wait 2 weeks

>>19286382
>t. extrovert normalfag

>>19286622
>Second wave doesn't matter. Sweden is on its way to heard-immunity. Almost nothing happened. Disaster avoided, life back to normal.
It is funny how americans talk about things they know nothing about. Even the worst areas in Sweden have less than 10% "immunity" currently while the death rate is about 10x higher than the other Nordic countries. Swedish people will not be allowed to enter when the rest of the Nordic countries open their borders

>>19285412
>a second wave
do you guys realize that you peaked at 32k daily infections and it only went down to a little over 24k daily infections? you are still in the first wave lmao.
you are completly fucking fucked m8, big time
>>19288245
>It's seasonal retard.
>24k daily infections recorded in late may
i really do hate americans

>>19286702
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>>19285560
Fucking brainlets the lot of you. For a second I thought you wanted to say that people are coping with the fact the governments can just outright yell wolf and force you to do whatever you want.

The fact this generation is so insanely masochistic enough to be pretendscared over a virus with a mortality rate of 0.02% shows what a bunch of ill-fated incapable mentally insane homeschooled titsuckibg drooling imbeciles the 2000s have created.

If the 60-90s created a cool shick suave modern generation full of morals and realistic standards then the 2010s created a mentally insane generation more imbrcillic than the 1900-1950s ones.
This generation is more zombified than a hippy. Fitting name: Gen-Z
Dumbest literal sheeple generation that would actually blow up the planet in a nuke because of how dumb they are.
Please just commit suicide already and spare us your stupidity. Never in my life have I seen a government abusing everyone so hard and you retards opening up your ass to them.
Not even PETA and gypsy lovers were this bad back in the 60s

>>19287524
Famous last words before a kikebook memorial post in your honor

>>19288476
>mortality rate of 0.02%
shut the fuck up boomer

>>19288476
>pulls """stats""" out of his greasy asshole
>THINGS WERE BETTER IN DA PAST
OK boomer, please lick a doorknob.

>>19288259
What do you mean

>>19288476
A good lie would had been to report the virus kills 60% of the population.
That would make sense to be scared of.

>>19288492
>No capitals and no punctuation.
Before you go back to playing Fortnite tell me what years do you think defines "boomers". Can't even come up with names and YOU TALK LIKE A BOT. No imagination, no speech, no emotion.
This generation is fucked beyond belief.

>>19288509
Commit suicide already, you're even worse than the 1940s.

>>19286821
Eh, IFR is pretty close to 1%. Those 6% numbers are a result of only some people who have the disease getting tested - think 50% asymptomatics plus 25% people who think it's just a flu plus 10% who can't or don't get tested.

>What are the odds that we will avoid a second wave of infections allowing the economy to recover?

Very high and the DEM's and Communist backed WHO will push for it to damage Trumps reelection chances because he's changing the global order and they want China to be the model that the rest of the world is based off of.

>>19288519
I was referring to the fact that the supposedly philanthropic Rockefeller and Carnegie, wanted to prove vaccines worked. The so called spannish flu second wave was a result of an unproven vaccine and other medical poisoning's not some mutated virus.

>>19286244
Yeah man, I don't want to be like those millions I see dying in the streets on TV

Hospitals filled to the brim, 3-day Emergency Room wait, etc

>>19288401
You still don't get the point. The number's are irrelevant, they are testing for rna strands which can come from many sources. Yes you are correct modern people need more regular detoxification's due to our toxic world.

>>19285412
it's interesting that IGNORING social distancing and all other things to protect one each other is an entirely western phenomenon. why is that?

>>19288674

Because we're not anti-social sociopaths chinks that are bug like...

>>19288674
Can you please show me the research that social distancing is effective? Can you show me the research that has isolated the full virus? Can you tell me why you are incapable of thinking for yourself? Would you like to life in a technocratic society? Do you actually think the reason human's appear to be living longer is because of the medical industry?

>>19288531
Nice argument. Simp for corporations harder and maybe they'll tweet about your death <3

>>19285424
Ah yes Mr. doctor man, tell me the antibody range you are in. In fact, tell me the antibody count someone needs for guaranteed immunity. People out here getting reinfected cuz we don't know that shit yet bro! Go coof yourself.

>>19288646
This really isn't a good argument cuz you're making "cleaning the tank" seem easier than it is. Yeah, we can go ahead and "clean the tank" if it meant cleaning it would kill 1 of your fish, or in that metaphor we could move the fish to a new clean tank, which i mean, we can't do for our planet so that metaphor is really stupid.

>>19288793
>>19288646
>>19288609
Can you post even one piece of evidence yourself? You spout the dumbest shit but refuse to investigate any of your own claims. Save everyone else the resources and an hero already.

With 2 seconds of googling I found research on both
Masks: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7120816/

Social distancing: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/8/20-1093_article

>>19288868
They are not getting reinfected.... They some other detoxification going on. The cv19 test is garbage, a positive test mean's nothing.

here is a thanks in advance to all the retards treating this like its nothing. cant wait for my next stimulus check!!

>>19286821
Wrong on literally everything, why would you put so much effort in posting this bullshit.

>>19288889
The point is that a toxic environment causes disease. The solution is not to immunise people against there own bodies response to clean it's self.

>>19288895
Did you even read the paper's? They are based on theoretical models not actual testing. If the input's are not proven how can the output be correct?

>>19286576
Its possible it just hasnt happened yet.
In my city macdonalds was fine then suddenly 3 locations got hit along the same road because of 1 employee going to the other store. All stores got shit for a month

>>19285412
There won't be a second wave because COVID-19 is not an HN virus. It's an RNA virus that is more likely to undergo antigenic shift and become as mild as a cold.

>>19288980
It's mostly colored people dying because they cant synthesize vitamin d. So living too far from the equator is toxic to them

>>19289026
niggers are dying at higher rates because they live unhealthy life styles. They eat absolute garbage, generally live in area's with poor air quality( lung damage).

>>19285424
I'll attend ur funeral

>>19288889
It's a great metaphor. Society is sick and obesity and slutty behavior went from not being shamed, to accepted, to even being seen as perfect OK or maybe even a good thing. It's time we cleaned up. Any bmi over 20 without visible abs is a good indicator of a person not being worth the physical space they occupy.

>>19288401
America hates you too. Reporting from cental USA, things are literally back to normal already, you tremendous cuck.

>>19285412
I for one should wish to discover precisely the nature of the perfumes arising from the nectars of this wholesome entity; truly a prime blonde porking portion, when born amidst the flaps of hers; the most succulent of reproductive regions. My kingdom for a whiff of her miff and a squelch twixt her bits. Woe to he whose trajectory is such that never such a baby bazooka will proffer such perfumes to penetrate his proboscis.

>>19285560
LOL it's the biggest nothingburger of our lifetimes so far.

Zero legitimate deaths.

>>19289092
The fat delusion is another trap. The fat is not the unhealthy part, it's what you eat to get fat. Fat is very protecting and most environmental toxins are stored in fat cells(to be dealt with later). If you calorie restrict but eat a doughnut and vegan sausage roll diet you are still unhealthy.

>>19289137
You can't get fat on a calorie deficit even if you only restrict it a small amount. Fat is the problem more so than anything else that can be identified. If you're not fat and shove razor bloods and aids penises up your butthole for every day you are still unhealthy, but that has nothing to do with what we are discussing. Are you trying to change the subject because you're a fatass trying to normalize the mental illness? Obesity is one of the worst mental illnesses and has the highest death rates because it actually directly impacts the body, unlike depression where you could argue the suicide was caused by hanging or shooting them self. With obesity the link is as direct as possible with CAD, cancer, respiratory failure, renal failure, etc..

>>19286180
>when the right wing co opts the left wing #resist movement
Peak clown world

>>19287524

>>19285412
>No one is wearing masks and everyone is ignoring social distancing.

>>19289239
The difference being leftie faggots are doing it for instagram, becoming "professional" protestors via the generous support from pah-pa's trust fund (also fuck white male patriarchy).

The other is fighting for life or death, and liberties that have lead the US to be the absolute peak of humanity in a rather short period of time, that Jews and their chattel are blatantly trying to destroy or reverse.

But of course your redditnigger brain can't differentiate.

So many people walking outside ignoring social distancing rules

One warm week and it's as if Corona virus never happened

>>19289395
the entire fucking species can die as far as i'm concerned on condition that i get to plant my face firmly betwixt that cosy-looking blondie's orgasm apparatus.

>>19289137
true to a small extent but physical fat is still unhealthy when you’re at an obese level. you don’t need to be a ripped 10% bf but carrying around too much leads to heart issues and many others. your body struggles to carry all that weight around that it wasn’t meant to.

>>19285412
There are no infections. Your body get sick when you have a bad terrain, and the disease is here to detoxify your body. If it's not the Corona disease, it's would be the classic flu, a pneumonia, or something else. There is no second wave, except if something in the air or in the food (terrain), or some EMF (terrain), create a second wave.

Youre not gonna be able to tell people to shelter in place again. Faggot boomers and normies could barely hold on the first time around, they wont do it again

>>19289209
I'm personally quite lean and have trained since i was 16. My point was a skinny person eating a garbage diet is not healthy. Unless your eating a natural human diet you will be unhealthy. Obese people eat garbage diet's to get obese, the fat is a symptom. It is very short sighted thinking to think that fat is the cause of health issues not the diet. Although being ridiculously overweight does have intrinsic health implication's independent of diet.

>>19289551
Plus there's no evidence that it accomplishes anything positive yet it has a ton of downsides

>>19288889
>Yeah, we can go ahead and "clean the tank" if it meant cleaning it would kill 1 of your fish, or in that metaphor we could move the fish to a new clean tank, which i mean, we can't do for our planet so that metaphor is really stupid.
We can't switch off the EMF, we can't have clean food and clean air, so let's quarantine everybody like little babys, and give them pus serums in order to give them the illusion of being protected (and make profit). By the way, pus serums (vaccines), are aggravating the risks of having the disease it's supposed to immunize from. Yes you heard me (pic related).

Who is this cement demon?

>>19289007
>paper's
>doesn't know how theory/ modeling/practice works in medicine
Keep embarrassing yourself though

>>19285900
O noe! I cant get into a heckin gospitalirinooo. I want to see all the normies larping that they're in greys anatomy, botching people's lives and making tik toks! Pls meredith grey roleplay. Kill me and then justify it as a character development episodeeee

>>19289010
>3 mcdonalds on one road
what the fuck is wrong with you disgutsing amerifats, seriously

>>19289581
There is though, Sweden didnt shelter in place and ended up with a death right twice as high as the US

>>19289674
Bro you're so obviously butthurt you're too dumb to be a doctor it's just sad.

>>19289600
Do you even see your own graph? Vaccines go up and infections go down.

>>19289631
>He doesn't know how epidemiological modelling works
>He isn't aware of how easily manipulated they are.
>He believed many of the astoundingly inaccurate models that where touted back in march
>He think's that anything the technocrats put out must be true because they have our best interests at heart.

How can you Create a model for a virus that has never been fully isolated?

>>19289717
>Do you even see your own graph? Vaccines go up and infections go down.
So know the strategy of the paid shills is to use reality changing strategies.

>>19289717
> He can't even read a graph

ahahahha

Look again brainlet

China got the world by its balls with the Wu Flu.

>>19289107
Things have literally never been normal in the US + A, because your shit country has been at war every single fucking year since it's existence.

Just like 4chan is not a safe space for anons anymore, because Zuckerberg sold it to the Jews and everyone has these gay ass coloured ID numbers behind their posts now.

mortality rate is 81 years old. nothingburger.

>>19289717
Eat this one, paid shill.

>>19289755
by modelling it based on places where it was contained like Wuhan and the Diamond Princess?
and then modelling it on viruses that are similar in contagion and characteristic?
35 million americans got hit by the flu in 2018/19 flu season with no physical precautions taken, and a flu vaccine widely available. if a virus with 3% fatality rate spread in the same way, the consequences are unimaginable.
From both models we can isolate the assumptions and blend the results based on controlled inputs.
scientists publish their models and their assumptions and post a likely range of accuracy.

if you don't also do this for your financial investments, you don't belong on biz

>>19289780
>>19289755
Considering you can't even read a graph or paper, I'm not going to take your interpretations of anything over doctors and epidemiologists.
>B-BUT SCIENCE BAD! PUS VACCINES! MERCURY!!!1!1
OK retard, keep saying that while those of us with a shred of scientific knowledge survive.
>>19289764
Vaccines are preventative, they act on the FOLLOWINGtime period's infection rates, not before or while the person is being inoculated. I can't believe I have to explain such simple concepts to semi-literate simps with internet access.

Retards who are still worried about this nothing burger virus is why I levered the fuck up on stonks right now. >More people die of diarrhea every year than covid19 >More people have died from suicide this year than covid19
>The average age for covid19 deaths is higher than the average age for death in general.

>>19285412
there's no danger, you've been brainwashed

>>19289814
https://www.aappublications.org/news/2018/03/01/idsnapshot030118
>Durr a durp durr, iff vakseens werk den y dis randum graf say so?? CHECK MATE SHIIILLLLL
Thank you for not procreating

>>19289873
Always do the opposite of biz

>>19289717
Lmao so why does vaccine derived polio go up with vaccines? And why does vaccine derived polio outnumber wild polio?

>>19289855
>Vaccines are preventative, they act on the FOLLOWINGtime period's infection rates
Vaccines are not preventative. They increase the risk or have the disease they are supposed to immunize from. Vaccines are a tool whose only function is to make profit.

>>19285412
Source

>>19289873
>Homeless people still out in droves begging in NYC/LA despite the shutdown
>All normal people self isolate
>Homeless people in literal tent cities
>No mass homeless deaths from virus

>be me
>just graduate college
>know plenty of people at different universities
>no one I know has heard of anyone our age from dying from covid19 that they actually knew
>Only people I've heard about were these two people 55 plus that were hospitalized, no death
>And a grandma that died at 75 and was marked as a covid19 death

You retards can stay inside until 2021 I'm out having fun with my friends and balls deep on some 2022 calls

>>19289893
>https://www.aappublications.org/news/2018/03/01/idsnapshot030118
Is your study sponsored by the rockefeller institute, or by the Bill Gates foundation?

>>19289936
>>19289917
99% of all measles cases were eradicated by the time the vaccine was developed. Covid19 is going to be a similar story

>>19289893
Uh got Muh vaccine so I kin roll around shit and blood and live with 10 ppl in a room like during duh early industrial period.

>>19289974
Why don't you use that smooth brain and unemployed schedule to look for yourself?
>No not those sources and studies! Their sponsors are meanies and scawy I don't want to eat bugs and microchips!!!
Pure delusion.

>>19289936
>vaccines aren't preventative
>the thing that PREVENTS you from getting infected isn't preventative
Award for dumbest post of the year right here.

>>19289917
Do you even know what you're saying when you say vaccine derived? The dead bits of viral tissue in a vaccine are not infectious, and they're not some man-made strain of the disease. Have you even googled how vaccines are made?

>>19290039
Yes.

>>19285412
just do what the electronic jew tells you and i'm sure you'll be fine

>>19290039
Obviously this. The increase of disease at the second half of the 19th century was caused by the increase in bad living condition in city centers, populated by factory workers.
Even if the vaccine worked (it don't, it increase the disease), it would be an insult to workers to vaccinate them. It would be like: "you have shit living condition, shit terrain, but it's not a problem, take this pus serum shot, and you won't get sick".

>>19290077
The real question is, how much do they pay you?

>>19290119
Shit conditions spread the germs that vaccines prevent. Of course the capitalist leaders wanted the cheaper but still very effective vaccines as opposed to restructuring their entire industrial complex.

>>19288609
b a s e d

>>19290149
Twice what you make saying this dumb shit.

>>19285412
The economy has recovered, silly. People with jobs are working from home, people without jobs get $600-800 a week from the government, those pesky small businesses had to shut down for safety but don't worry, Amazon ships all your necessities to your home, and the stock market is almost back to where it was pre crash. This is how life will be forever. Enjoy :)

>>19290170
People who say what i am saying got their videos deleted from youtube.
There is no money in the terrain theory. Indeed, being healthy, eating well, avoiding stress, big pharma cannot make profit on this.
For big pharma to make profit, people have to get sick. And for those who are not sick, those who have a good terrain, the ultimate scam is to make profit even on those people. Give bigpharma products to very healthy people: vaccines.

>>19285585
>if you have a serious underlying, your doctor already warned you. so stay home.
>healthy people can circulate to create herd immunity.
+++

This

Open up already, u damn Commie plebs, and let’s get back to America’s business—the business of America is business!

>>19290222
>So stupid he can't get the simple $0 * 2 $0 joke
No wonder your best sources are youtube videos lmao. You're right the big pharma makes profit first and foremost, but they make more money if the vaccines and shit actually work. Otherwise how could they gouge people and governments thousands of dollars a pop?

>>19289849
You trust the Chinese governments data? Do you trust there data that the virus disappeared also? Can’t have one and no the other. There is no specific virus, just Higher rates of respiratory illness due to environmental pollutants. The test does not test for a specific virus. So how can we derive models off of a flawed test? Models mean nothing if the inputs/equation is wrong. The diamond princess also has lots of confounding variables. Did you know that cruise ship had 5g? I would like studies to prove that 5g is Either safe or unsafe myself.

>>19290342
Like the Spanish flu vaccine that called millions you mean?

>>19289674
Are you seriously suggesting that functioning hospitals aren't essential to society's wellbeing?

If you've never been sick or injured, that's fine, but you don't have any friends or loved ones who have needed hospitalization or an ER visit?
Imagine if the hospital was "too busy" and turned them away.

>>19290408
I don't even know what you're trying to say here, try again after you've read anything on the subject.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/blog/vaccine-development-spanish-flu

https://www.biospace.com/article/compare-1918-spanish-influenza-pandemic-versus-covid-19/

There are no papers documenting that parachutes are effective on a controlled study, with one group jumping with a placebo and another group jumping with parachutes, even though there are theoretical models that suggest parachutes may work (newton's laws,, drag force..) therefore parachutes are useless

>>19290342
>>So stupid he can't get the simple $0 * 2 $0 joke
>rebbit tier posting
>15 "we're all gonna die, FUCK DRUMPF" posts in this thread
>unironically posted "OK boomer"

you need to fuck off back to rebbit already you stupid nigger faggot

Goddamn your posts are so fucking awful, you're either underage b& or unironically a redditor who lost his way. Either way fuck off you stupid cunt.

>>19290342
>>19290468
>>19290077
>>19289855
>>19288895
>>19288509

look at all the fucking reddit posts from this stupid faggot. What a fucking horrible thread, you should all be ashamed of yourselves

>>19290540
>>19290567
Not my thread, but please cry more about other websites and slang while parroting your own debilitated dialect.

>>19290740
you can keep rebbit posting you fucking freak, but take it back to rebbit. You stick out like a sore thumb and your posts are cringe compilation material

>>19285560
Its been around since September

>>19285412

>BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

>>19290740
>19290758 He's right you know

>>19290758
>>19291508
>People who disagree with me are from plebbit >:(
I've been here since '07 and morons like you have always tried to attack a person's style/assumed individual traits when your arguments fail you.

>>19286177
There are confirmed cases where 1 roastie spread it to 30+ people.

>>19285424
oh they'll open it back again but not because your safe...lol.

>>19286244
AND....it never goes away

>>19286716

Neighbouring countries will have surge in reinffections when they open up.

in the end, everyone gets herd-immunity and everyone has the same amount of deaths per capita adjusted for lifestyle factors. The only difference is Sweden will get there faster and dab on all the lock-down retards-

>>19285424
when you get covid a second time, your organs are going to get fucking obliterated. have fun with that shit.

>>19286389
i called the cattle "cattle" because he gave up arguing with me. cuz he had moosh for brains obviously.

>>19285715
>What does it matter if they had underlying conditions?

how fucking stupid are you. this is a great example of the typical low iq american. literally has zero critical thinking skills and waits for MSNBC to tell them they can leave the cuckshed

>I Watch the news

>>19292627
The danger is the overwhelming of the healthcare system you unbelievable moron.

>>19285412
it will exist but result in insignificant deaths and testing/reported covid deaths will be quashed by tptb

>>19292066
heh right, you got sources to back up that bs claim?

Covid barely touched me the first time. Could have kept working if I didn't test positive at work. If you can even get it twice, I'll probably get a headache or some weak shit

>literally just a mild respiratory cold
>entire planet except Sweden is acting like HIV has gone airborne

>>19286786
It's the last bit where she pulls the dress up, gives me an instant throb on

>>19285412
That's a man.

>>19286005
Tfw only Reddit uses paragraphs. Who’s the real low iq

>>19285560
>2 months

This virus was already circulating in the US/Europe at Christmas time.

600+ doctors have asked Trump to reopen the economy because its less deadly than the flu and all the emergency hospitals are being mothballed.

>>19285412
That's a very pretty man

>>19285585
family member almost died from it and has no underlying conditions, he was pretty fit.

>>19285900
The response to this is to NOT treat Covid symptoms and tell them to fuck off

>>19286648
The worst thing about isolation by far is being surrounded by people. I'm not surprised, I'm about ready to start strangling

>>19286821
>extrapolation for an inappropriate subsample space to literal population
Post pusy and feet

>>19287524
>muh Jewish good slave instruction manual
You lost me there

By my governments own data only the elderly are at risk, over two thirds of our deaths were in old folks homes. Meanwhile more people missed important scans and cancer screenings or killed themselves than have supposedly died from corona.

>>19294172
what do you not understand about 99%?

you can also almost die crossing the street. let's just stay at home in bubbles forever.

>>19288477
Checked and keked

>>19290422
Hospitals aren't essential (though it is pretty nice having the chance not to die from stab wounds, infections, heart attacks and all that sort of stuff that is "naturally" probably going to be fatal)

>>19286622
> Sweden is on its way to heard-immunity
You have no data to back this up. Available data suggests the opposite, that about 3.3% of Swedes have had covid at this point.
IFR = 1.2% which means number of infected = number of dead * 83 (since 1 / 0.012 is about 83)
Dead in Sweden almost 4k => 4k * 83 = 330k infected. Sweden population is 10 million and 330k /10M = 3.3%
Now show me your math for your so confident assertion.

>>19286404
my man

>>19289600
>>19289814
I'd like to see where the data from those graphs is from.

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.7.5.445-a
>All diphtheria mortality statistics clearly indicate a decline in the mortality from this disease immediately after the use of antitoxin has become extensive in any given locality,
city or country.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374803/
See pic. Good flu vaccines were developed and widespread in 1940s. Mortality for the flu went way down around that time.

https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox
See the picture from there. Smallpox vaccines became "popular" in the late 1940s-early 1950s, and the picture shows that cases went way down in that time frame. The earliest "vaccine" from before 1910 was just an infection with cowpox. Of course it wasn't terribly effective.

>>19285560
Ok Karen

>>19285412
>What are the odds that we will avoid a second wave of infections allowing the economy to recover?

Irrelevant. Better question is what are the odds we will end up eating squirrels if we keep assfucking the economy like this.

>>19294703
>just wait two weeks!

>>19285412
the virus was created to crash the economy. We will realize it in Q4.

Covid gave us more shitcoins and trump bucks

>>19285560
Cuck

>>19285412
wheeres the laammmb SAUCEEE on this thot i need it so badly fuck the biz stuff

>>19287524
death rate by dividing deaths by case #:
USA: 5.9%
Brazil:6.3%
Russia:1.0%
Spain: 10.1%
UK:14.3%
Italy:14.3%
France:15.5%
Germany:4.6%
Turkey:2.8%
Iran:5.5%

If you're too stupid to pick up a calculator, the only direction your life will go is a comfy hole 6 feet under.
Go ahead and angrily seethe against the injustices of a world constructed in your own head until reality donkey punches your thick, empty skull.

>>19285412
Who cares? Take your shit tier thread to /pol or /b.

>>19296853
Lol if you’re so stupid to realize the death rate is LOWER due to a very high asymptotic carrier percentage shove the calculator up your ass.

>>19285424
>he thinks the economic collapse will be a consequuence of bat flu
>not because of human greed
ngmi girl

>>19297301
>banking on unreported, unconfirmed, and unsubstantiated statistics to make death rate more palatable

If we made the assumption that cases were actually double the current reported cases due to asymptomatic carriers, we would still have a 3% death rate.

Why are you like this?

>>19297612


The Navy ship that was infected had 85% of the crew asymptotic. Instead of double it why not 10x it. Do that math again calculator boy.

>>19297847
0.6% death rate

1,818,000 dead if we see 100% of America infected.
not taking into consideration the virus is mutating as time goes by.
not taking into consideration the inaccuracy these tests have proven to have.
and by that projection we are only 5% there.

>>19297847
You know, these days, the miracle of modern technology makes Calculators available to even the most neolithic of caveman.

Why dont you try bouncing some hypotheticals off of yourself and give those 5th-grade math skills a try, instead of going on the internet and asking someone to prove how irresponsibly, publicly ignorant you are.

I have a garden to go work on.

>>19288609
Dangerously based, most sheep can't handle this truth.

>>19296853
Why are the percentages so all over the place?

>>19285412
We are all going to die. Soon.

>>19300017
My layman interpretation:
-quality/capacity/access of healthcare system
-Population density
-testing ability
-willingness to cooperate with quarantine
-general age of population and quality of health
-accuracy of reporting (intentional or not)
-living conditions

the numbers i got were from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

I'm not a doctor, im just working with the numbers provided to us.
take from it what you will.

>>19300070
Sometimes I kinda wanna die.

>>19285412
its all bullshit
but there is entertainment value
especially on 4chan

>>19289092
Who cares about you obesity you dumb fag

>>19292035
You are aware no country in the world is even close to having the numbers for herd immunity right?

>>19302062
From what I've read, there may never be heard immunity.

>businesses open again
>no one is wearing masks
Good. They will close again and stocks will drop. Then you buy the dip for pennies and wait for it to moon.

>>19285412
Sweden seems to be doing fine. By end of summer all returns to normal.

>>19285424
Look at all these degenerate leftist that think an immunity(recovery) to a covid strain can mutate in a threatening(worse) way within a year.
I swear it's like you all just shitpost all day for years

>>19285560
>>19286821
>>19287049
double-digit IQ

>>19297994
>if we see 100% of America infected

that ignores the fact that u reach herd immunity around 70%

>>19286657
They've already pulled the final step in ensuring nobody can afford private property and money is worthless. The corrective crash is already locked in. The test was successful, everybody followed every command, the population has been fully insectified. Pod people are ready. So with all that said, I can't really give a dick about getting paid 500 euro to do nothing and gamble on memecoins all day

>>19285889
That was a myth. The so-called chaos was hype, it never happened.

>>19285412
That's a MAN

>>19289699
>#apartTogether
>#shelterinplace
>Wow thank god for all the heckin frontlinerino nurserinos this is why we need to abolish private property
Why are you even on this board

>>19288476
Boomers outsourced every possible job we had, imported the third world because they were too fucking lazy to trim their own hedges and wanted to pay $1 an hour.
Boomers and Gen X are all traitors. Fuck off.

>>19288793
>>>19288674
>Can you please show me the research that social distancing is effective?

He needs a study to prove that not coughing directly in someone's mouth is effective at spreading disease spread.
Actually KYS.

I fucking hate New Yorkers.