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First part:
https://archived.moe/biz/thread/19244262

tldr; I'm leaving US in a few days and I already had an agreement with my landlord to pay me half in cash day of my departure and the other in paypal 30 to 60 days later and now he's trying to keep the deposit to himself. He ignored all my emails about the deposit and has the audacity to ask me to show someone around the apartment while I'm on the lease

By the way, "he" refers to the old landlord, the one I signed the lease with originally, and is the father of the current landlord. The old landlord was such a nice guy I can't believe this douche of a landlord is his son

I'm not going back to US ever again so I don't care if my name is in some blacklist somewhere. Suggest ways to "surprise" him when he sees the apartment. Bonus points for subtle yet long lasting "gifts"

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pt. 2 of the conversation

>> No.19256302

Cement in toilet and sinks.

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Last part of the conversation

Is he retarded or what? He knows I'm not coming back to US so why is he provoking someone who lives on his property and can get away with with anything done to it.

Is he playing 4d chess? What do you guys think?

>> No.19256322

Tell him to bring the deposit when he brings the person to show the place otherwise he's not coming in. Also, anyone who makes a threat like "I can be a dick" needs to be responded to with aggression. Get in his face "What's up dick? you gonna be a dick today? Yeah you fucking faggot you think you're tough? Give me the fucking deposit money like we agreed to you little bitch." He will cower. At least he would if that were me he tried to pull that shit on

>> No.19256324

>>19256245
I hope he beats you to death.

>> No.19256339

>>19256245
Invite a bunch of homeless to stay in ur house on the day u leave

>> No.19256356

>>19256245
hopefully he crashes your plane before you touch down in whatever third world shithole you crawled out of

>> No.19256366

This is why foreign people should not be allowed to stay in america any longer than 3 nights. And only in government owned hotels.

>> No.19256389

cum all over the apartment

>> No.19256406

>>19256322
nvm OP you are a fag

>> No.19256427

>>19256322
Kek I was trying to be professional.

>>19256324
>>19256366
>>19256356
Don't you have to clean up after some tenants?

>>19256389
I'm not a hentai mc anon

>>19256339
That's not a bad idea. Wouldn't the homeless be suspicious if someone offered them residence for free?

>> No.19256459

Honestly? I would demand your deposit a few days before your departure or tell him it will cost him 5x as much. Cement in the sinks/toilet is just the beginning. Tear out the cabinets, put holes in the tub, holes in the wall, rip up the carpet and subfloor. If your not the vindictive type then he has you by the balls, but if your never coming back to the states then you can't be sued by your landlord

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>>19256245
Based landlord taking command. He's got all the leverage now. You played the game and you lost, son.

>> No.19256481

If you don’t absolutely fuck up that apartment you’re a cuck. Give him one last warning say it’ll be the worst mistake he ever made if he doesn’t give you that deposit back in full within 24 hours

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>>19256460
>leverage over a guy who’s leaving the country and van wreck the apartment and ruin the new prospect

>> No.19256513

>>19256322
No. Don’t call him names. Have a lawyer send him a letter.

>> No.19256535

>>19256481
this. /thread

>> No.19256536

>>19256320
He knows you’re leaving the country so he knows he can take your money and you can’t do anything. Make sure he knows something bad will happen if that money isn’t in your hand BEFORE the new prospect comes to look at the apartment

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>>19256460
Are you dumb? OP can wreck the apartment causing the landlord to lose more money than his deposit

>> No.19256559

>>19256245
I had a landlord try to jew me before. I pulled up state laws to counter and refute their claims.

got my deposit.

bitch ass motherfucker.

>> No.19256564

>>19256513
He doesn’t need a lawyer he’s leaving the country and needs to use that to his advantage as a threat that he’ll destroy the place without actually saying he’s going to destroy it. Give him the wink and nod

>> No.19256570

>>19256245
hahaha what a pajeet are you op lol

>> No.19256577

>>19256245
adopt 5 kittens + mommy.
leave

>> No.19256597

Go in the leasing office and threaten him with a fake gun. He won’t want to risk his life over 600 bucks. Pistol whip him if he doesn’t budge

>> No.19256607

>>19256481
don't be a dumb nigger and go threatening people bc the cops will shut him down and he won't be able to leave the country.
just send 1 last email, and tell him like a white person "I'm leaving the country soon and you still hadn't returned me the deposit. thank you".
wait 24 hours, and then fuck up the place.

>> No.19256611

>>19256577
Kek this. Let stray cats run around to ruin the place. You have so many options at your disposal.

>> No.19256640

>>19256611
smell of cat urine get stuck in hardwook so bad lol
we have granite floors, and even it my parent's fully granite-marble bathroom a mommy cat with kittens stunk up the place for 3 years kek

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>>19256507
>>19256546
>OP signed his name on the lease
>OP is bound to the terms of the lease
>wahhh I want the terms to be different now, give me different terms or I'll commit crimes
Extortion is immoral, illegal, and high-melanin. Grow up.

>> No.19256663

>>19256245
most houses in the US are made of wood, just get those wood eating ants and let me go free. Organize a project X type party and tell everyone they can take w/e they want from the house.

>> No.19256670

Get homeless people in the apartment before you leave

>> No.19256705 [DELETED] 

>>19256607

>> No.19256716

>>19256320
Hes not going to give you a dime. Remmeber, they were kicked out of 109 countries for a reason

>> No.19256721

>>19256607
>I'm leaving the country soon and you still hadn't returned me the deposit. thank you
>like a white person
Keep studying duolingo Rakeesh you're almost there.

>> No.19256725

>>19256513
only sound advise in this entire thread. never change /biz/.

>> No.19256728

>>19256459
>t. Nigger

>> No.19256758

>>19256725
>Hire a lawyer that will cost more than the deposit
Is this the new buy high sell low?

>> No.19256763

>>19256513
This is the only answer. He's somebody's kid and will /immediately buckle/ if he sees esq. on a letterhead. Calling names won't do anything, "playing the game" won't do anything. No more correspondence from you, only from your counsel. It might cost you a little bit of that deposit, but you will get whats yours.

>> No.19256795

>>19256513
You act like it's so easy to have a lawyer do anything. I make six figures but cannot imagine having a lawyer on retainer.

>> No.19256809

>>19256339
haha this, let them in, mail them a letter in their names and he will have to evict them as legal residents. Most US states do not permit landlords to use "self help", i.e. they cannot do shit themselves, they have to sue for eviction, pay a jew to do it and then hire a marshall to do the eviction. Perfect crime because what you've done is not a crime like pouring cement into a sink but a civil wrong the only thing he could do is sue you back... which he cannot do for same reason you cannot sue him i.e. both in foreign countries.

>> No.19256837

>>19256339
>Invite a bunch of homeless to stay in ur house on the day u leave
Should be a week before to give them time to get the mail proving they receive mail there.

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OP HERE

The old landlord (father of current landlord) just called me and I missed his call. He's probably trying to mediate a solution between me and his son. Should I tell him to only contact me via email to leave a trail?

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>>19256320
Pour concrete mix down the pipes and shit all over the the place. Leave rancid meat in the walls.

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>>19256245
Can you overstay lease? It will cost him less to pay you deposit than to evict you. Offer to move out in exchange for your deposit, no deposit, don't move out. If he tries any bullshit just call the cops on him.

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>>19256863
Why, are you going to stay in the country and sue, fly back for a trial? Are you going to pay a jew lawyer more than your deposit to sue him? Email both and say you're not moving out until you get your entire deposit back in cash on the day you leave. No cash, no move out. Let them evict you. With Corona back-log it will take months... they will cave, guaranteed.

>> No.19256931

>>19256245
he's stating in the message he'll give your money back. there you have it, fool.

>> No.19256945

>>19256245
Its time to start whipping out the ultimatums

>> No.19256957

If your landlord is trying to use your leaving of US to his advantage prove him he is very wrong. It's your biggest leverage. Tell him it will cost him more not to give you your deposit back. If he is smart enough he will give it to you. Dont leave appartment until you get your money in full.

>> No.19256976

>>19256957
>Dont leave appartment until you get your money in full.
Yes

>> No.19257004

>>19256481
Kike provocation. The landlord is out for a sweet insurance claim.

>> No.19257015

>>19256863
What state do you live in? If it's not a shithole southern state chances are good you have a huge amount of leverage.

>> No.19257101

>>19256320

What you do is close off any ventilation, put an electric cooking plate in the middle of the room and grab the biggest pot you can get. Fill it with water, oil and as much garlic heavy curry powder as you can. Steam the whole appartment for a while.

Short of tearing down the place he won't be able to get the smell out. The water vapor carries the oil with the absorbed curry powder in it across every nook and cranny in the place, where it starts coating the walls which absorb a large part of it.

>> No.19257165

>>19257101
This is better, it's not damage technically, and you won't get arrested for it. Damaging an apartment is just like damaging anything else, if it's obviously intentional it is a crime and the cops will pull your ass of the plane and throw you in jail if he finds out before you take off back to wherever, have no doubt. Don't take the chance.

>> No.19257219

>>19256662
Are you retarded. The depsoit is intended for damage. If there is no damage you get it back. Ops landlord is trying to Jew him out of it.

>> No.19257260

>>19257219
You get the deposit back within 30 days of the lease ending, not before you leave. At least that's how I think it is in California. I wouldn't know since I'm not a rentslave

>> No.19257282

>>19256670
He needs to round up all the homeless people. Get at least 10 of them living in there for a week. The smell will never leave

>> No.19257309

>>19257219

The landlord is a retard. You have tennants pay a deposit so you get your appartment back undamaged. That's the whole point of it.

>> No.19257335

>>19257260
>You get the deposit back within 30 days of the lease ending, not before you leave.
Usually, but landlords are scum and this one isn't going to give anything back because he doesn't have to. OP will be out of the country and the cost of a lawsuit would be greater than the value of the deposit. LL's do this all the time to poor basketball americans who are too dumb even to figure out the laws of their own country, OP will not be able to sue his LL from outside the country with the help of a jew lawyer that will cost more than the deposit.

>> No.19257398

>>19256245
Open up the fridge and if there is a jar of pickles in there, take a shit in the jar of pickles. Also, look in the closets and take a water sprayer bottle filled with bleach and spray the clothes with bleach. That'll teach that commie fucking degenerate Jew con artist to keep up their end of the deal.

>> No.19257429

Call a lawyer specializing in rent disputes.

>> No.19257510

>>19257398
>reading comprehension

>> No.19257531

>>19256245
Why do you rent joggers always come here to complain? I can see what makes you all such shitty tenants.

>> No.19257536 [DELETED] 

fuck/rape the landlord's wife

>> No.19257552

>>19256245

you aren't entitled to get your deposit back until after 60 days so they don't have to give you anything

>> No.19257598

>>19256863
Just be a reasonable person to the dad if you have a good relationship with him. Explain you don't want to get screwed if you leave the country and never receive the deposit. If youve been a good tenant then there shouldn't be a problem. If he refuses and makes excuses then proceed with any of the insane options in this thread. Fuck getting a lawyer. The paper trail is irrelevant because it's not worth the fight in court.

>> No.19257614

OP, if you want to cost the landlord money here is what you should do.
>take a pocket knife and ravage the walls
Lots and lots of small jagged holes is the trick
>take cups of water and pour them down the holes in the drywall
As many gallons as you can manage
>clog the sinks and bathtubs
A small amount of concrete will do the trick. Won’t be noticed until someone tries to use them and then it will result in flooding and extensive damage
>take boiled eggs, whatever stinky foods/substances you can think of, and fling them as far as possible down your air vents.
Right before you leave, take a ball of tin foil and throw it in the microwave.
No half measures. Take total revenge or do nothing.

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>>19256863
OP HERE WITH UPDATES

I called the old landlord back and he was very apologetic about his son's behavior. He told me to only communicate with him from now on. He agreed to have a written confirmation for returning the deposit on the day of departure for me tomorrow.

I'm starting to think the son (guy in the text) is an actual retard if he still hasn't realized how much leverage I have over him. All of your "gifts" suggestions will be put on hold. If my flight is coming due and both of them bailed on the deposit it's on again. The written confirmation could be just a ploy to buy time after all.

>> No.19257741

>>19257614
Nigger, by the time they discover the mold the new tenant might get very sick or die. Especially if they have a kid come on

>> No.19257752

>>19257643
Based and reasonable human being pulled.

>> No.19257768

>>19257643

That's nice. He should have raised the kid better. I hope you get your money soon.

>> No.19257817

>>19257643
Pussy. Take the deposit money and fuck the apartment up. Teach them a lesson

>> No.19257882

>>19256795
dude you pay them $1500 and take their business card and say "I'll call you when something happens". This is how you get a lawyer to work for you. If you can't get that together on 6 figs you're honestly pathetic.

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>>19256245
heres some gifts you can leave him
>flush baby wipes it will fuck up the sewage
>if there is any hidden spot or some place in the apt that is not getting accessed often leave some meat to rot the stench will drive next owner mad
>smoke and turn on the ac, no need to actually smoke them smoke will leave the smell everytime they turn on AC
>if you have any tools you could fuck a bit with the light switches wiring so he will need to get an electrician to check every one of them
>if you have a roof and its not an apartment you can break a couple roof tiles, water will work its way in time, if its few they wont suspect shit
>drop something heavy on a bathroom tile to crack it
its late now but if you had more time you could have gone for mold and a fucked up toilet. good luck anon

>> No.19257949

>>19257882
Why would you hand a lawyer 1500 then walk away saying you'll call him? Are you retarded? Do you go to the local plumber and do this in case the pipes break at 3AM 20 years from now?

>> No.19258140

>>19256245
>i can be a dick so you'd better do what i say

Fuck this guy

>> No.19258275 [DELETED] 

>>19258140
This. I'm surprised at how calm OP is. I would've definitely sperged out on this faggot

>> No.19258422

>>19256245

Isn't there a new general on here about indoor agriculture with goats and such in the house? I suggest that.

>>19256339
>>19256577

Also very deliciously devilish ideas. You better come through, OP, and show us.

>> No.19258462

>>19257101

This curry bomb is great as well. Proud of you, /biz/.

>> No.19258560

>>19257101
This is really good. Do this op.

>> No.19258634

Here’s what you say OP. This Is 100% legal.

“ hypothetically in a different universe on Opposite Day I cannot guarantee there won’t be major damages to the apartment. However, in candyland on Minecraft during 4/20 I can guarantee there won’t be damages to the apartment if somehow my deposit shows up very soon”

Can confirm I’ve used this and it worked

>> No.19258644

>>19257101
Best suggestion in this thread if they don't pay OP. There are no repercussions to doing this.

>> No.19258659

>>19258634
Genius actually. But skew it even more say castle don’t say apartment. Say combat damage instead of damage. Make it super goofy but while still subtlety threatening him.

>> No.19258705

>>19257949
>Do you go to the local plumber and do this in case the pipes break at 3AM 20 years from now?
actually that's not a bad idea

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>>19256320

Normally you would just not pay rent at the end of the lease to the value of the deposit but it might be too late. He seems like a fuckwit trying to be a big dog business man, send it to your local shitty media company, they are starving for these kinds of stories

>> No.19258777

i cant believe how many niggers are here posting about chimping out and fucking the place up

>> No.19258779

Just destroy the interior and move on

>> No.19258908

>>19258659
>>19258634
You could just say something like "bad karma tends to come to people who don't treat others fairly" and on the last day if there's no deposit you just pour concrete down the plumbing and fly home.

Alternatively if you intend to stay or come back to the US and/or you're worried about legal recourse, you can run a bunch of cold water through the plumbing to cool off the pipes, get a bunch of high melting point fat like beef tallow, heat it to barely liquid, and dump it down the drain. It will solidify in the pipes and it won't be fixable just by running hot water and soap through the pipes. He also won't be able to collect insurance on food clogging the pipes and the city might even demand he pay to get their ends of the plumbing fixed.

>> No.19258967

If you are going to mess with the apartment you should make sure you are out of the country before he finds out, so leave like two days before the final date without telling him

>> No.19259010

>>19256339
sublet the apartment to druggies or weirdos on craigslist then leave. download a standard lease or photocopy the one you have and whiteout your name and dates and have the randoms sign it and pay you some rent. the landlord wont be able to evict them because a clusterfuck of court shit will have to play out over months

>> No.19259025

>>19256721
past perfect nigger go back to school

>> No.19259035

>>19258777
maybe OPs landlord should be such a dick and patently rob him of his hard earned money that he is legally obligated to give to OP?

>> No.19259046

>>19258777

Unbelievable. It has to be 50% angsty teens and 50% niggers in here.

If someone did this to something I owned I would unironically shatter your kneecaps into a million pieces.

>> No.19259072

also lets get to the reality of the situation. the fucker owes you money. so whats the point of destroying shit just to spite him? why not destroy shit AND make your money? so you come out on top. rip out the plumbing and electrical, sell the copper on craigslist for scrap. sell the appliances on craigslist for cash nice and cheap for a fast sale. sell building components like the windows and doors. basically part out the house for sale. or charge junkies rent. or air BnB it after you leave, and give him a way later final date. do all of the above and afuck everyone so they all seek damages from him, the landlord, ebcause its his property.

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>>19259046
if you are going to renege on a legally binding contract to jew someone out of their money then you deserve it and OP is no longer required to abide by anything on the contract either

>> No.19259128

>>19259072
sage

>> No.19259192

>>19256320
what an absolute cunt of a landlord. hes not going to pay you shit. go over his head and ask the dad (your old landlord) for the cash upfront, all of it, the entire deposit, before you leave. let them do the walkthrough and all that shit. if they dont agree to that, then just bank on the fuckers stealing your money and sell everything in the apartment to get your deposit back. how much is your deposit? about $2,000? you should be able to easily get that back from selling the oven, microwave, washer, dryer, dishwasher, toilets, sinks, mirrors, cupboards, AC/heater unit, and whatever misc tools and shit they have lying around the basements or the attic

>> No.19259216

>>19257101
stupid and you can literally just lite a bunch of cigarettes for the same effect or invite some fucking degenerate smokers over for a weekend of debauchery

>> No.19259313

>>19256863
yes, paper trail is good in case you have to go to court. but he might be a stupid old man so just take his call and record it if you really want. but just take is call it sounds like he is the nicer person of the two. work it out on the phone, tell him you need the cash before leaving, invite them to come over and inspect the apartment and do their bullshit inspections. they are legally obligated to let you object or remediate any problems they have. this shit will all be on a paper trail, thats what they should email you. so they should say in email "you left holes in the wall, it will cost you $100 out of your deposit unless you fix them" and you go fix it and they say "ok the holes are no longer a problem you will not have $100 deducted and you will get back your full deposit minus the $250 cleaning fee" and you can offer to clean to their satisfaction or whatver. thats how it works with legit honest landlords and ive never had a problem like you are describing because ive been lucky to always have experienced honest landlords not cheapass entitled dipshits like >>19258777
>>19259046

>> No.19259424

>>19259025
Is that what they taught you in ESL class? Because literally no one talks or writes like that. You would phrase it something like "I am leaving the country soon and you still haven't returned my deposit."

>> No.19259596

>>19256245
Just send him a registered letter OP.
most of the time it'll cause some fear to kick in.
Make sure you sign and date the letter too. Keep a copy for yourself (photocopy).
Lots of templates online for this kind of thing if you don't know what to write in it.

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>>19256245
he is your lord. bow down and suck his lord sized cock you peasant slave.

>> No.19259630

>>19257510
No, I read it correctly.

>> No.19259667

>>19257552
Then say so in the email. Not that it's legally binding with OP out of the country, but the landlord refusing to do that clearly indicates his intention to fuck OP over. Plus, you've got to be a special sort of lowlife to do anything but hand over the money if the house is fine to someone that probably lost their job and is leaving the country during a fucking pandemic.

>> No.19259693

>>19256245
Invite a bunch of blacks for a gang bang and bukkake the walls, pay a bunch of junkies to smoke packs of cigarettes in the room, unscrew any screws you can find, paint shit in all the corners and air vents

>> No.19259733

you don't get your deposit back before leaving.

>> No.19259744

>>19259693
just pour 4-5 bags of quick set cement down the drains.

>> No.19259784

>>19257309
>"security deposit"
>that's literally what it is my nigga.
You're still a cuck OP, you better redeem yourself by pooing everywhere.

>> No.19259807

>>19256245
Invite an Indian family over to cook you supper the smell will never leave

>> No.19259881

>>19257101
kek I remember when I lived in a share house and it always smelled of curry from the indians.

I don't mind after a while because I like curry but it drove the others insane somethings.

Also the indians like to leave lemon halves in the kettle.

IN THE KETTLE HALF A LEMON!