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>What is /biz/coin?
/biz/coin is the official community coin of /biz/. Starting from a thread on /biz/ all the way to being one of the fastest growing coins at the moment. /biz/coin is 100% airdrop, no ICO or frustrating distribution.

>Why /biz/coin?
1. /biz/coin has the highest staking ROI of any coin right now. With the potential to earn up to 500% in 60 days. Its stupid simple.
2. /biz/coin has serious mooning potential, with staking reducing the supply and purchases repeatedly rewarded demand will be set to seriously increases once introduced to a wider audience.
3. /ourcoin/, this is our boards coin, if /biz/ actually dedicated to pumping this coin to normies then we can all make serious cash.
4. This coin is in its infancy, now is the time to get in when the price is ridiculously low. We all have had chances where we have missed buying before a coin exploded, why miss another?

Contract address:
0x168079c89f0fd13e021d69c9ea4859b4353535fc

Uniswap-
https://uniswap.exchange/swap/0x168079c89f0fd13e021d69c9ea4859b4353535fc

Uniswap stats-
https://uniswap.info/token/0x168079c89f0fd13e021d69c9ea4859b4353535f

Twitter-
https://twitter.com/realBizCoin/

Roadmap:

- Website coming May 19/20
- Staking badges May 19
- Coingecko/blockfolio listing May 20/21
- Pajeet proof airdrops May 20/21
- Whitepaper May 20/21
- Mobile apps with staking service June
- Dividend payments to Bizcoin members from ad revenue June
- More TBA

>> No.19233535

yes buy sirs buy ALL IN hidden gem low market cap with very good fundamental i bought 100k!

>> No.19233554

>>19233464
250000k Will I make it bros?

>> No.19233561

>>19233535
No pajeets allowed in our /biz/coin.

>> No.19233582

bucc scam

>> No.19233586

>>19233561
am not . i support bizcoin

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>>19233464
In, fuck all the Poojeet coins let's have our own

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>>19233554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Rah2Mb2Xw

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/biz/coin
better than all other shitcoins

>> No.19233744
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BUY OUR PAJEET SCAM OR GET GASSED

>> No.19233783

>>19233464
Added /BCG/ to the filter

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>>19233783
sorry to hear that Sandeep

>> No.19233810

>>19233464
wheres the airdrop to biz?
this just looks like a discord premine tranny scam

>> No.19233844

>>19233582
Bucc is going for a hat trick of failed scams.

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>>19233810
No trannies here boss, only high IQ investors

>> No.19233883

BUY BIZCOIN OR GET OUT OF 4CHAN

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>>19233810
>hallo sirs I want free coin for doing nothing so that I can immediately dump it for a few rupees please and thank you

>> No.19234061

>>19233681
EOY prediction?
I reckon we could break $0.10 if this becomes a good memecoin, more if the whitepaper is actually half decent

>> No.19234139

>>19234034
thats not the point fucking retard

>> No.19234201

>>19234139
This coin does nothing... they want to make staking for it and then??? That sounds exactly like a bucc scam. He won't be going by bucc anymore you idiots.

>> No.19234209

>>19233464
>organized scam
>retards still buying
buy high sell low retards

>> No.19234228

>100% airdrop
>uniswap

gimme day airdrop bidfrendo

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>>19234201
Whitepaper coming, stake now and avoid the rush

>> No.19234792

>ranjesh
it's RAJESH you mong. at least put some effort into this

>> No.19234801
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PLEASE GIVING ETHEREUM SIRS

>> No.19234836

>>19234801
>being against Pajeets getting involved is somehow a bad thing

>> No.19234838

>>19234209
Lol, don't call it a scam just because you don't understand it

>> No.19234859

get in on the ground floor, this is /ourcoin/

>> No.19234876

>>19234838
What does it do?

>> No.19234881

>>19234838
what exactly is there to understand?

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>>19234836
>>19234838
>GREAT STAKING REWARDS SIRS, DOUBLE, TRIPLE, 10X YOUR MONEY
>80% OF TOKENS ALREADY DISTRIBUTED SIRS, TEAM RETAINS LESS THAN 20% OF TOKENS SIRS

If you don't see how these two things contradict each other, you're a moron

>YOU MUST STAKE EQUAL AMOUNT OF ETHEREUM SIRS, JUST PUT IN EXACTLY AS MUCH OF YOUR ETHEREUM AS WE GIVE IMAGINARY TOKENS TO YOU

There it is. So you guys premine a billion tokens at a cost of absolutely nothing, and then take real ETH from people.

Nobody could actually be stupid enough to fall for this, if so I am going to start MagicBeanCoin and do the same thing

>> No.19234948

>>19234881
>>19234876
DYOR and read the whitepaper ffs, it says it all

>> No.19234995

>>19234928
No one has promised such things, get your low tier fud out of here, shitskin

>> No.19235000

>>19234928
the staking rewards are for early adopters, look at the actual wallet size and stake sizes and you'll see they can more than cover it multiple times over

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>>19234948
>>19234995

lmao hi brad, you fucking retard

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>>19235000
>the staking rewards are for early adopters, look at the actual wallet size and stake sizes and you'll see they can more than cover it multiple times over

I've got around a million staked just for laughs and there are lots of whales like me, how exactly are they going to give us all 10x our stakes when they've already airdropped the overwhelming majority of tokens?

They can't. But they can sure exit scam with all the real ETH that they make you stake along with the imaginary shitcoin!

>YES SIRS HERE HAVE 100,000,000,000 LAKH CRORE BEANCOIN VERY VALUABLE SIR
>STAKE FOR GREAT REWARDS SIR YES VERY GOOD COIN
>I REQUIRE ONLY 1 ETH FOR MANY BILLION MILLION BEANCOINS

>> No.19235117

>>19234928
>>19235016
You're getting in on the ground floor of the /biz/ community project, we want many early adopters so we are doing various things such as airdrops to encourage participation.
The developers are in the discord server so if you have technical questions you can ask them there.

>> No.19235166

>>19235086
cope harder, nogainer

>> No.19235183

Just sold all my BizCoins for 1.3x gain.

>> No.19235204

>>19235016
Lol have fun with /yourcoin/

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>>19235117
>you're getting in on the ground floor of giving real ETH to scammers in exchange for magic beans

lmao

How exactly are you going to 10x my 1m stake again? And all the other whales? Because you don't have enough tokens to do that.

>>19235166

Brad, you irredeemably dumb fucker, you had to go into the shill discord to ask HOW to shill this scam coin, because you have no idea how it "works"

How it works is this: You get given absolutely nothing, and in exchange stake your actual real ETH, and then Bucc exit scams as per usual

>> No.19235257

>>19235086
Most of the coins are still held for distribution
https://etherscan.io/token/0x168079c89f0fd13e021d69c9ea4859b4353535fc?a=0x59843c38bd857711273e594bcc4f14d7ced0c7a9

>> No.19235361

>>19235228
Currently only something like 11% of the coins that are in circulation are staked, more coins being staked = lower liquidity = lower percentage of your stake being BIZ and more ETH = less BIZ payout once your reward date is reached (but you get much more ETH).

>> No.19235423

>>19235257

>hur there's still 57% of the coins left!

Holy fuck Hardeep, I can't believe I have to do this.

So 43% of the coins have been airdropped. You are promising ONE THOUSAND PERCENT STAKING REWARD SIRS

Which means, unless 90% of the coins are still left, there is no way in hell that is possible to do. There aren't even enough to do the 300% reward, let alone the 1,000%

Do you see how if you have a billion tokens (1,000,000,000) total supply, and then you give four hundred thirty million (430,000,000), you can't then give forty three billion tokens (43,000,000,000) as staking rewards?

>>19235361
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but only 11% are staked

Then all you need is 110% of all the tokens that exist, or what about 125% of the remaining non-staked tokens, in order to give those people their 10x. Do you see how that's not possible? We all do.

>> No.19235518

>>19235423
If you were a bit brighter, you would be able to make money in these markets. I feel sorry for you

>> No.19235526

>>19235423
The 1000% reward for 60 day stake window has ended, and currently there are far fewer coins being staked than would drain that pool (not everyone is going to hodl for 60 days + the aforementioned BIZ-ETH tradeoff).
The max stake reward is now 500%, and is still a good rate so you should get on it, and will likely decrease as more people jump on the train.

>> No.19235606

>>19235228
They do have the tokens, look at the top holders on etherscan faggot

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>>19235518
>u-u-u-u-u-uu-ur dumb
>let me give more ETH to this scam

Brad you poor retarded fucker, you're not even on the dev team. You are a literal bagholder, why are you defending getting scammed this hard?

>>19235526

Har(dee)p, you clueless fuck, you're having to ask the devs if your desperate cope even makes any sense. At least they were "honest" enough to not lie to you, and just pretend you didn't speak

PROTIP: The bizcoin """""code""""" is literally from the Free ERC20 Token Maker website

>> No.19235672

>>19235606
>math is hard lol!
see
>>19235423

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>>19235633
You don't have to be a dev to know how this works, I'm new to staking and I've figured it out little buddy

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The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine.

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>>19235687
>I'm new to staking

lmao you sure as hell are, otherwise you would've realized that giving your real, actually-valuable ETH in exchange for any quantity of a scamcoin that

a) does nothing and
b) has literally no value because it's
c) backed by nothing

is really really stupid

Hey, I'll give you 1 quintillion MagicBeanCoin and all it'll cost you is 2 ETH! Only 12 hours until this deal expires!

>> No.19235770

>>19235633
Please explain to me where the scam is? How would we ever be able to build a community coin together if we didn’t give it liquidity. You’re just mad that you came after the pump and now you can’t get fat bags

>> No.19235809

>create shitcoin
>make available on uniswap
>put 10% of all available coins and 3 eth in liquidity and promise village saving staking rewards to pajeets
>pajeets and the biz brainlet brigade pump eth into liquidity pool for staking rewards
>creator pulls out his massive % of pool gaining big pile of eth
>bizcoin tanks
Am I close?

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>>19235809

This is exactly what's happening. The code is literally just Free ERC20 Token Maker, they minted up a billion tokens and then generously airdropped it to goyim with enough staking rewards to build a million toilets, asking only that the lucky recipients stake an "equal" value of ETH

>>19235770
>Please explain to me where the scam is?

lmao even during the airdrop people did the math and realized the "staking rewards" are impossible

>> No.19236119

>>19233464
I'll trade my nulink for biz 1:1.
Anyone interested?

>> No.19236182

>>19236119

No way Bizcoin is superior !!

>> No.19236231

>>19235761
All currency has value because people believe it has value, this coin is the /biz/ community project so it has intrinsic value as that alone.
The details of what additional functionality BIZ will bring will be detailed in the website and whitepaper, which are going to soon be available, right now is an opportunity to get in on the ground floor before that pump.

>> No.19236268

>>19236231
The idea of a biz token has been talked about for months. How the fuck can anyone have missed it?

>> No.19236320

>>19235894
staking rewards" are impossible

Those were only for the first people who got in, it was always going to change and be reduced, just like the airdrops have reduced.

Early bird catches the worm

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>>19236231
>well like everything's relative man

No, Hardeep. For example, one week from now the ETH you've put into this obvious scam will have value, but your "BIZ" will be worth zero.

>muh whitepaper

It's literally Free ERC20 Token Maker. It's a "community backed token" aka it does nothing and it's backed by nothing. But you have to exchange ETH fo it.

Again:

>create MagicBeanCoin out of thin air for a total cost of $0.00
>promise impossible staking rewards, actually ADMIT to the OGs that you're lying about that and it's mathematically impossible
>generously give away MagicBeanCoin in exchange for a trifling sum of ETH
you are here
>let more suckers put ETH into the pool for a few more days
>pull your huge stake out of liquidity pool, taking a bag of ETH from retards who are left with nothing

>> No.19236381

>>19235894
Also just for reference the marketcap of dogecoin is over 300 million (was over 1 billion at some point) and it's a completely retarded technology, while we have good goys from /biz/ working on this

>> No.19236408

>>19236355
How much did it cost to create Bitcoin? Wtf e-money isn't actually backed by anything other than people believing it has value (like all money)!

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>>19236320
>>19236182

should've used different IPs for this one bro

>Those were only for the first people who got in

There are already more than 10 wallets holding 1m+ of this shitcoin. There are not enough tokens to give them their 10x.

Har(dee)p's desperate cope was that only 11% of the tokens got staked during this "phase 1" staking. That'll still require 110% of the total tokens to give them their 10x.

THIS WAS ADMITTED LAST NIGHT, THE SCREENCAP IS RIGHT THERE

>w-we'll probably cap the big accounts at 30 days

This is of course easy to say, since nobody is getting 10x and the exit scam with everyone's ETH will have happened long before the 60 days are up.

>> No.19236446

>>19236355
As for the mathematics, the current staking rewards seem entirely reasonable, and staking rewards for those who get in later will diminish as more people stake

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>>19236408
>How much did it cost to create Bitcoin? Wtf e-money isn't actually backed by anything other than people believing it has value (like all money)!

LMAO DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT PROOF OF WORK IS

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND HOW BITCOIN MINING WORKS

DO YOU THINK BITCOIN MINING IS LIKE ELVIS JUST PRINTING UP 100,000,000 TOKENS OUT OF THIN AIR AND THEN GENEROUSLY EXCHANGING IT FOR ETHEREUM

AH HAHAHAHAHAHA

oh god hardeep, dump your bags immediately, save yourself

you are spending money on things that you don't even understand the basic concepts behind, and in this case that means literally giving your money to a scammer

>> No.19236474

>>19236355
Jesus Christ, how much time to you have to waste with these walls of text?
Your fud is futile, those smart enough to see the potential of this project has already bought. Buy now or at 1 cent, loser

>> No.19236493

>>19236416
Again, as more people stake the lower the BIZ payout is going to be (but you'll get more ETH in your stake). The idea that everyone who is currently staked will continue to be so for 60 days, with no new stakers and no one leaving before the 60 day mark, is virtually impossible.

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>>19233464
Imagine not getting in on this train early.
You could of bought ESH at 1c.
Dont miss biz

>> No.19236500

>>19236446
>this thing that's impossible and that Elvis agreed was impossible sounds perfectly reasonable to me!

Hardeep, you poor innocent fucker, I am forced to assume that you are in fact the idiot of whatever Punjabi village you happen to inhabit

see the screenshot
>>19235894
>we'll cap larger stakes at 30 days
>lol we'll figure out a better system

>> No.19236527

>>19236496
>-14.40%

real rocketship you've got there LMAO

>>19236493

Remember when you posted this desperate cope in the discord, and the devs fortunately had just enough shame to pretend that they hadn't read it, rather than lying to you?

PROTIP: It's not true

>> No.19236537

>>19236463
Bitcoin tokens do proof of work? Pretty sure that's the machines doing the mining little guy, the coins themselves don't do anything. BIZ is built on top of ETH and has it take care of the mechanism of exchange.

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>>19236474
>g-g-g-g-g-go away
>s-s-stop it

lmao no, I've got all day to destroy your pajeet-level shilling. I hold about a million of this garbage shitcoin and when I exit, I'm taking some of your ETH with me. Not as much as Elvis is gonna

>the potential of this project

lmao, the potential of a Free ERC20 Maker premine that does literally nothing and has no use case (other than "take ETH from biz brainlets")

Curse my lack of vision!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>19236537
>pretty sure that's the machines doing the mining little guy

oh god lol

Next week, when you're looking at your $0.001 USD total balance, try not to feel too silly.

But you should not be spending money on things that you don't understand -- it's made you a victim of this current scam we're discussing, and you will be victimized again and again and again, until you stop spending money on things that you don't understand.

>> No.19236715

>>19236589
>>19236677
If you're a pajeet looking to dump the coin this early then go ahead, just means can buy it cheaper

>> No.19236830

>>19236381
Dogecoin made it because reddit was full of optimistic retards - /biz/ is full of pajeets, bitter cynics and NEETs 1-12 months away from suicide

>> No.19236862

>>19236715
>pls sir i must save my village
>and there can be no better investment than this scam premine
>that does nothing that every other generic ERC20 doesn't do
>in fact they even admit that, it's a "community backed token"
>aka completely worthless
>and the business case is "maybe we'll like try to sell some ads to the three dozen people who actually go to /biz/ or something"
>they also admit its code is just from the Free ERC20 Token Generator website and they're trying to PnD it on 4chan for profits
>and they also admit that the staking rewards are a lie
>and all you need to get in on the ground floor is real ETH!

lmao thanks for the Ethereum, hardeep

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>>19236830

I'm a little disappointed that Bucc thinks on such a small scale. Nigga's gonna slide out with like 10 ETH because of this, whoop de doo

>> No.19236953

>>19236862
The staking rewards aren't a lie, the project started yesterday and they weren't finalized yet and now they are.
If you're going to dump do so raj, would love to get some cheap BIZ and rid ourselves of streetshitters

>> No.19237015

The team is working on a website and other projects. Bizcoin will moon, it's just a matter of time. Why don't you anons get in so we can make it together rather than stealing from each other from shitty pump and dumps? This is our coin /biz and our chance to make it as a community.

>> No.19237059

>>19236182
Nulink solves the oracle problem.

>> No.19237105

>>19236953
>The staking rewards aren't a lie, the project started yesterday and they weren't finalized yet and now they are.
lmao
>>19235894
>if 10 people stake 1mil each for 60 days
>from where will you pay them?
>Elvis(bucc): We will cap some larger stakes at 30 days
>Elvis(bucc): lol we'll figure out a better system, one step at a time!

THAT WAS THIS MORNING, HARDEEP. THIS MORNING.

>> No.19237179

>>19236416

This is only a few days old everything is getting ironed out, mistakes are always going to be made, you can't expect a coin brought together by a community to be water tight from the get go..

They are working hard to make this work.

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>>19237179
>you can't expect a coin brought together by a community to be water tight from the get go..

>>19237015
>This is our coin /biz and our chance to make it as a community.

>c-c-community! community! that's a nice word!

lmao dat desperation

In reality this coin was created by Bucc in order to steal yet more ETH from credulous retards

>working hard
>going to https://vittominacori.github.io/erc20-generator/
>and clicking the button

lmao bucc's really breaking his back here!

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>>19233464

>> No.19237331

>>19237015
>community project
>only community activity is shilling according to discord shilling guide

>> No.19237337

>>19237105
>get 400% returns on coins that you got for free/at the very bottom of the market
Oh nooo how will you ever recover. Dump your coins so that I can buy them cheaply buddy.

>> No.19237347

>>19233464
0x16BCe84f7a29B3545a5461EB401246563aF57555

>> No.19237361

>>19237331
>he hasn't seen the website or whitepaper
insider here, have fun being left in the dust faggot

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>>19237331
>>only community activity is shilling according to discord shilling guide

Don't forget their other community activity, of sending ETH to three-time /biz/ shitcoin scammer bucc in exchange for magic beans lol

>>19237337
>well, ok, so that first promise was not only a lie but mathematically impossible
>but this new promise, I'm sure that's the real deal!
>and this coin will totally exist in June when the totally real dividends are absolutely going to get paid!

Tell you what, give me some ETH and I promise you one BILLION percent return!

>>19237361
>whitepaper
>for a Free ERC20 Token Generator premine

lmao

>> No.19237433

>>19237337
Excellent community engagement. I'm convinced, bizcoin is going to make it.

>> No.19237453

Dev's are turning jew already, screwing people over on rewards.

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>>19237453
>already

Someone pointed out literally on Day 1 that the promised rewards were mathematically impossible lmao

see
>>19235894

>may 2020
>still getting scammed by bucc

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>>19237433
>mfw we made bucc's shills so mad that now they're telling people to sell

>> No.19237619

>>19237415
>>19237433
>>19237538
If you're going to sell I'd rather you sell at the bottom so that we can buy it cheaply

>> No.19237741
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>>19237619
>bottom
>doesn't realize the top was last night

lmao

>> No.19237991

This is the dumbest project I've ever seen in my life.

It doesn't even try to explain what it does. Even the attempt would be an insult. The shilling is atrocious. Yet ironically it's more honest than most coins that say they do all sorts of useful stuff. I'm not knocking those projects, but this coin is pure pump and dump. It's purity is rare.

With that in mind, I'm not investing for profit, I'm investing on principle.

>> No.19238125

>>19236416
The 10x is on staking *in the first 24 hours*, not holding. Look at how much was staked from then, they can fulfil it easy.
Your shilling is pure cringe, please stop Rajesh.

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>>19238125
>continued retardation

11% was staked by this morning. That will require 110% the total existing supply of the shitcoin in order to fulfil. This was pointed out AND ACKNOWLEDGED at the time of the last airdrop, see
>>19235894

>4. Opposition, people are going to fight us shilling our coin, thus we need to isolate and undermine those people who try and breath negative thoughts into potential buyers. If people say /biz/coin is a 'scam' or a 'pump and dump' accuse them of fearmongering and especially being to cowardly to invest themselves. This will discredit them in the eyes of others and thus help us pump our /biz/coin

lmao

>>19237991

What's funniest is that bucc decided to swindle this tiny little board again, rather than literally anywhere else. He's gonna walk away with 10 ETH when even 1 percent of dogecoin's success would make him a bundle.

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>>19234209
>buy high sell low retards
A true /biz/ coin would reward the people who lose the most money. We need a smart contract that follows your etherium wallet transactions and rewards you with /biz/ coins for making bad trades.

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>>19233464
ALL WOMEN ARE WHORES
MEN WHO FOLLOW IN WOMEN'S STEPS DESERVE DETH

>> No.19238573

>>19238530

Now this I would sink some money into

Involuntarily

>> No.19238622

>>19238552
Is that real?

>> No.19238845

>>19238530

So it would be like an insurance coin, interesting

>> No.19238933

>>19238845
I don't think people would pay money them anon. Or maybe they would if we rank the wallets with the most tokens the kings of /biz/...

Lets called them $COPE.
The true /biz/ coin.

>> No.19238991

>>19238933

True

Or we have Bizcoin token for staking
Bizcoin cash for mining
Bizcoin Silver as insurance

All connected on the /biz/ network