/biz/ - Business & Finance

Dump tomorrow. Sell today

fuck anime and fuck china

Nvidia has a 10% pump after earnings tomorrow. Cap this

first for [PLACEHOLDER] [PLACEHOLDER]

reminder after market /smg/ is extremly bearish
don't trust them

Can someone explain the annoying option activity near start and end of day where the spread becomes really wide?

For example
Normal
Bid 2.50
Ask 2.65

Not normal
Bid 2.50
Ask 3.00


The askers trying to bump up the "closing price" which means nothing or what?

> This pump
On
> This volume
Lolol.

Guys what the fuck do I buy? I'm 100% cash

>>19231736
Why would I? Even if the market dumps 1%, I am still in profit. Never ever selling again. This is rigged as fuck and will make everyone rich once you Play with the FED.

DOOMP EET

Lean Hogs have turned it around

>>19231782
Got fucked yesterday holding sqqq. Don't do it. Be neutral overnight

>shitting up the OP
Why are weebs such narcissistic edgelords

>>19231736
Lmao most of my stocks dumped today, idk why as im spread across a few different sectors.

>>19231794
go work out. maybe start a dca on financials?

>>19231824
fucking lol'd.

>we dance wherever the afterhours jews want us to dance
Zzzzzzzzz

I bought 1390 shares of MRO @ 5.96 pls break the resistance, break through $6

Im heading back to the gym just opened up, I'll make sure and get a couple of reps in for my /smg/ boys stuck in liberal shitholes

>>19231794
UCO UCO UCO UCO UCO UCO

Well I'm off for a while. Gotta mow my yard while I can before the next round of storms comes in tomorrow - rest of week.

>>19231794
Hold long term. Asset prices are pricing in massive amounts of inflation that just won't materialize.

>>19231760
>>19231801
It's okay anons, we're all gonna make it.

look at GPRO. its literally higher now than before corona despite no earnings and no growth potential plus all the other bad shit going on with corona and recession rigth now

how are people still buying the market ?

>>19231794
Buy more cash lol

>>19231869
Buy bonds?

Straight shota is a thinking mans fetish, you won't make any profit if you don't understand that a fertile female letting a young boy use her body and letting him mating press and fill her with his semen is hot.

>>19231881
dont know bro, it feels i wont recover this year

>>19231794
KOPN

>>19231853
hold above 5.20 you weak dummy

>>19231888
OMG ITS TECH AND IT ISN'T 1k+ PER SHARE
BUYBUYBUYBUBYBUBYBUBYBUBYBUBYBUBY

>>19231853
im gonna kill myself

>>19231888
Buying on potential. Everything in this market is bought for "potential". Not fundamentals, like earnings.

>>19231903
if you need to. cash is perfectly fine, probably for another 6 months

EOD dump right on schedule

>>19231912
Don't think of earning it back, just focus on managing risks. It doesn't matter if your win rate is low, what's important is controlling how much you lose.

How did he fuck up THIS badly?

>>19231912
>>19231977
I mean don't focus on earning what you lost, instead focus on your process.

What are the chances GLD drops 3% tomorrow?

>>19231888

>>19231986
>warren buffett sold the bottom
>george soros is old and dumb
>jerome powell is just fudding
keep them rolling, /biz/

>>19231903
I'd think I'd just hold the cash. Say hypothetically housing prices tank like in '08 that will probably tank all assets including bonds. If you have the cash though you can take advantage. I don't know how likely this scenario is. But I'm holding 70% cash the rest is in BTC and stocks just as an inflation hedge in case none of the bubbles burst. There also just isn't much upside to bonds so I'd stay away. Only the Chinese and the Fed buy them. And the chinese buy them to devalue their own currency relative to the dollar

SPY will never go past 300 again lol

>>19231986
He wasn't fast enough. He's a smart guy, just too slow for the likes of those who had better foresight.

Also, Buy Oil.

Do you think you could make money by basing your investments on nothing but director deals?

Sells = Bearish
Buys = Bullish

>>19231986
what did he do wrong? he might be right about airlines. Give him a fair chance, to notice the effects of Corona on airline will take a couple of months. They will soon burn through cash reserves and flights will never be at 90-100% capacity if there is no capacity. Also, flight travel restrictions are imposed.

>>19232022
But what should trigger the sell off? Don't see any catalyst. This will moon until Q2 earnings and that's weeks away. At this pace we are back at ATH.

>>19231793
It's been like this for weeks.

These kikes are commodity manipulators making GLD stay high relative to dollars. They're going to take all my shekels.

>>19232057
it's a credit bubble, bucko. the first sign of increased rates or tightening credit requirements pretty much sinks the whole fucking ship. watch out below.

>>19232035
Next stimulus package will make it so forbearance will be treated as deferment instead; therefore negating a "bubble".

>>19232057
My brain tells me I should be bearish, but this is the more likely scenario

I FUCKING HATE THIS SHITTY GAME

7% loss today for my 20% gain tomorrow. Hope you sold

>>19232054
>what did he do wrong?

Sat on 140 billion in cash through the best buying opportunity since 2009

Fucked up on OXY, Kraft Heinz and the airlines

>>19232094
Stop the BOBO mindset. ANYTIME there's a sell off, the FED comes in next day with multiple semi's filled with cash. How many times has this been proven? Oh oh EVERY FUCKING WEEK SINCE MARCH?

>>19232040
violently moons sideways

>first time playing stonks vidya
>up 0.2%

how i do?

Has anyone had Robinhood ever instantly cancel an order? I tried to place one 10 seconds before close with a limit order that should execute but it was instantly canceled before it executed.

>>19232113
nah bro tomorrow we red

*dabs*

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I'm up .81%, green day in the crab zone while holding a lotta cash. Fed minutes pretty outdated already kekkies, passing of the fugg Chinar bill pretty interesting. I'd really like it to pass, but it would hurt our poor Bilibili so bad... Guess GSX didn't get margin called from dropping below 33 after all... uhhhh I'm still thinking something bad is gonna happen to them. Everyone's talking about the put/call ratio, looking pretty crazy, I don't know what to think. Another day of watching n waiting I guess

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/shocking-before-and-after-photo-shows-what-the-coronavirus-did-to-an-otherwise-healthy-man-in-just-6-weeks-2020-05-20?mod=mw_latestnews
>nurse claims he would be fine because he was "healthy"
>turns out hes a literal faggot who probably has aids
every time, every fucking time news reports a "healthy" person gets fucked by coronavirus they turn out to be a landwhale or an aids faggot

>>19232180
>Robinhood

>>19231794
Nothing until we close over 300 or below 280 for a week straight.

>>19232154
hes an investor not a trader. he doesnt go by day to day or weekly or even monthly gains. is strategy is company growth and long term holding.

>>19232196

up 4.5%, not counting the $671 divvie I got from ET today

Even though i've been winning lately, I think staring at charts all day is having a negative effect on my sanity

>>19232182
>Said the increasingly nervous bear for nth time

>>19232196
+1.53% BABY

>>19232196
Pretty decent day

>>19231986
>lifelong successful stock guru sells when gold and stocks are going up at the same time, oil went negative and is still in a huge supply glut, and stocks keep going up despite us entering into economic data comparable to the great depression

>wtf guys Buffett fucked up!!! I'm smarter than him!!!!

Kind of funny people think this

>>19232177
Checked. You didnt lose, so good job anon

>>19232090
It really is despicable propping up these bubbles. From what you say it sounds like they're propping up the housing market indefinitely. Its politically nonviable to let people foreclose too, however if they ever stop these programs it will lead to an H-bomb chain reaction that will cause the housing market to finally return to a normal level. If not at least I'm hedged somewhat against inflation.

>>19232223
>I think staring at charts all day is having a negative effect on my sanity
My sleep has been all screwed up and I've gotten two cold sores in the last three months. Last time I had one was over 10 years ago. I need to stop worrying about all this.

>>19232233
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FUTURES ARE RED AAAAAAAAAA

>>19232233
800 bucks is 20%? Invest in a better job, tripfag.

>>19232196
I'm up
I sold BILI in February so the dump today makes me less salty that I missed the pump from 25 to 35

I bought: some OTC stocks ;)

>>19232196
Made a dumb buy yesterday and erased it today with a green spike and some change on top of it. Feels ok.

>>19231986
Hes old. He was like 70 when computers became a thing. I know I would not trust these things when Im that old.
That said, its time to retire Warren.
>>19232235
>He made smart decisions in the past when he was 60, so he must be making smart decisions right now
According to Buffett the internet and computers were not worth investing in. Yet here we are. Smarter than before.

>>19232235
yeah i'm starting to think I should have bought stocks and gold.

>>19232222
So this is why he panic dumped the airlines and Goldman in March?

>>19232199
>fit guy lost muscles after 6 weeks in hospital
Wow it's fucking nothing.

>>19232220
those are man arms and man hands

Tomorrow is unironically red though, -1% so not too bad.

>>19232290
>According to Buffett the internet and computers were not worth investing in.
and he said this when? Gonna need a source

>>19232222
checked

>oil is up 200%
>he could have longed it, retired by now
>instead he posts anime on this general
>tries to find the next penny stock meme
>tries to find the next shitcoin
>pretends to be drunk and shitposts here
>etc
what's your excuse retards? i'm up +1500%

>>19232196
up .51%
mostly cash too atm
bought some snss and already regret it

>>19232292
bro how did you buy something that wasn't a stock or a gold?
there are even stocks that are gold at the same time

>>19232247
You just have to assume that nothing will ever pop at this point. Anything that comes close to popping is immediately addressed (look at oil) and rebounds.

If the fed withdraws, THAT'S when you GTFO.

God almighty

>>19232166

>>19232196
up2% but Im severely depressed. the reason is because Bowl America has exactly 4 months of cash reserve left. After this, the share price will go to negative.

now, please get me the Pepper Pizza with a sidedish of Alex's Santa Fe Burger

>>19232260
>wanting biz to keep track of all the stupid shit you say
jesus christ

>>19232311
he's been kinda against tech for a while, but his most recent letter states that the future is going to be light on tangible assets.

>>19232318
eToro charges a overnight fee for oil at a jewish rate.

>>19232318
proof it

Long term bear here. Tomorrow will be gap up and green again. Hope you didn't sell.

>>19232281
Success breeds jealousy
>>19232260
I'm the captain now

>>19232265
AH are still open though

>>19232196
Got smacked on my attempt to play SPY puts this morning but had a nice day in my Roth. Need to take a break from options desu.

>>19232344
does that cash reserve include all of the T stock that they own?
aren't they opened back up by now?

>>19232329
because this is a sucker's rally, there's no way the market's should be this high right now all things considered.

>long term bear
the fuck?

>>19232318
Show your stats faggot. Just another larper who thinks hes the wolf of wall street

>spotify

YES

> 78.98%

JCP had a decent day

>>19232375
no one cares who you are. You can't even bypass daytrade restrictions because you don't have 25k. You're nobody.

You're now added to my filter and I will literally never again read your posts

>>19232402
I've been a bear since March 2018.

>>19232353
>he's been kinda against tech for a while
>Berkshire's largest stock holding is AAPL

>>19232196
I bought a very stupid put on that GSX, and I made many other mistakes. Better go blow off some steam, do some cardio. These anti-thread culture cuckholds are getting pretty annoying too.

I'll have one of those fake bloomin' onions

>>19232177
Good desu.
>>19232311
When he did not buy into tech in the late 90s and early 00s.
He never bought into any of these companies except AAPL.
To this day BRK is known as stock with very little tech exposure, which is why some people invest in it specifically.

He usually answers with "He doesnt understand them well enough"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8bF49V-rt8

>>19232389
yeah, read the may 10q. No they are still closed after 3 months

>>19232332
Hasn't Powel been hinting fed intervention isn't unlimited? He already dispelled rumors of negative interest rates. I don't know if he's bluffing though.

>>19232417
You're probably -80% in your all time

>>19232420
>Berkshire's largest stock holding is AAPL
I tend not to follow, but I'm pretty sure it grew to that. He made a decent sized purchase maybe... 2 or 3 years ago?

>>19232391
what about gold under 1750 though
I was told it was free money

>>19232391
You have to realize that the markets are all fantasy. That said, just pretend the economy and stock market are actually real based off logic. You have to take the blue pill the play

>>19232438
Did you not watch yesterday's hearing? They literally said they will do anything and they haven't even shown all their cards.

>>19231793
We can float up on low volume

>>19232452
>the markets are all fantasy
they're not. It's bubble dynamics. It's going to be a race to the door if you're in the wrong shit.

Today was a great day. Tomorrow will be even better

Check out pic related. I'm not big into TA but these are some of the basic indicators that can be reliable in the long-run.

>Day closed on the S&P with it touching the 100 MA
>Also touching the upper Bollinger Band
>Also touching the same line on the RSI as the previous 3 drops, implying a potential head and shoulders

>>19232466
What cards have they not used yet? Negative interest rates is one but are there any others?

>>19232438
Why would be bluff? He knows that everything has a limit, but nobody cares. Hopium and greed is making everyone blind.

>>19232466
There are no other cards left.

Check the one day SPY chart. What the fuck does it mean? It seems like the market is being dragged to 300, kicking and screaming.

>>19232249
Checking futures?

>>19232487
You are right. Tomorrow we cross and then the golden bull run can start.

>>19232342
couple of fun sentences...

>Still, they did leave the door open for negative interest rates, saying in the minutes, "... participants did not rule out the possibility that circumstances could arise in which it might be appropriate to reassess the potential role of negative interest rates."

>The UK is the latest country to discover the benefits of negative interest rates. Earlier today, the country issued negative debt for the first time ever.

>>19232437
>they had to sell 1M worth of stock to keep EPS positive
ouch
they pay their employees a lot. 2.5Million every two months? what kind of shoe girls and hot dog /popcorn chefs are they hiring? they need to chop that headcount in half

>>19232512
it's called the pain trade and it's why the based Mumus are making money

>>19232512
Trust the Fed

This guy made me like 2 grand

>>19232490
Close the exchange for X months

>>19232196
up 0.82% Harvested a 30% gain from SNSS and 48% from CGC. Took a hammering on VSLR and SPWR. looking to buy some puts on ACB a fortnight from now @ $10.

yuro here
Does America have a public nationwide register for annual reports of all registered companies?

>>19232344
oh dear. VA will be open within four months for sure, will people want to bowl though ;_;

>>19232487
you didn't even show the "meaningful" part of the imaginary line that you're drawing... extend the chart to the left to show where that line comes from (and a bit beyond) before you post it

>>19232512
Absolute pure equity inflation

>>19232431
Youre retarded. BRK is one of the biggest tech stocks there is.

>>19232512
This has been my explanation for the past 2-3 weeks

>drop happens
>Plunge Protection Team colludes with banks telling them to manipulate futures and premarket to keep the market up, particularly when the day ends in a huge sell off
>They tell the banks "corona is just a temporary thing. We'll be back to ATH in no time"
>they're basically coasting the market along with the idea that there will be magical economic news that does a v-shaped recovery
>turns out the news gets worse
>they keep coasting it
>surely this vaccine....
>surely the earnings of Amazon....
>job report comes out showing that it's going to get worse and the entire year is done for

I'm not sure why they're coasting the market still, but they're bagholding like no other. Every day there's a drop these guys are spending huge amounts to push up the price only for people to panic sell on to them and they buy more and more. At some point they'll be racing to the exit, but when?

>>19232587
[Reply to bait]
Happy?

ima start taking steroids and get all jacked

I already own a shitload of UAL guys, what other airline should I buy for diversity sake? I am putting 25% of my portfolio in airlines.

>>19232577
That line is the 100 day MA

>>19232344
Ah and here's your order

>>19232622
>buying more airline
>diversifying

>>19232601
The only real explanation right now is. We have 0% interest rates and big companies are getting cheap money / loans to throw into further stock buyback progams. As easy as that.

Hopium train, until the end station is reached.

>>19232196
Up 2.86%. I got lucky buying SU last Friday. Slowly my March bags are starting to break even. Wish I wasn't so spooked to buy stock still.

>>19232618
I bet your gf can get some freeze dried rat dicks or whatever they like to eat to make themselves more manly

>>19232655
if borrowing is limitless, how can we reach the end station ?

>>19232377
>Small caps
>UPRO
>INTERNATIONAL small caps
wow you must be real fucking bullish

>Emerging market sovereign debt
dude nnnani the fuck?

>>19232661
it's bear gall blader you fucking moron

>>19232622
Delta & American Airlines

>>19232566
Sounds like they would try
>>19232531
sooner than closing the markets.

>>19232622
why not just DCA into jets for maximum safety and profit

WHATS THAT MUMU?
ARE YOU OKAY?
WHATS THAT MUMU?

i wonder what Ben Bernanke would have to say about all of this

https://www.nber.org/papers/w5145.pdf

>>19232342
Every country is going to be Japan now

>>19232646
There are different types of diversity shitskin, I realize this is risky, and I stand to gain more reward

>>19232706
Probably something stupid.

>>19232377
You better have like 200k in that account and not some meme amounts of 2 SPHD or shit like this

>>19232636
ah my b

>>19232618
I thought that you were already jacked

Unironically going to go all in on Wendy's next dippy day and then sell covered calls at ATH strikes.

>>19232694
>sooner than closing the markets.
That's not the territory of the central bank

>>19232706
he sucked though, and careless let Lehman and Stearns happen

>>19232700
AIRLINES ARE NOT COMFY!

>>19232706
the government is essentially throwing money from helicopters

>>19232667
It isn't. Eventually the music has to stop, but the fed can kick that can pretty fucking far down the road. We might end up paying for this years from now.

>>19232342
Negative interest rates is when I shift to a majority gold portfolio
Literally look at GLD vs. YEN

>>19232705
Yeah i made 7 percent today, how are you?

In clown market is there an reason not to buy SPY on every dip day and sell it once it is positive for you?

>>19232667
We reach the end station, when the credit and debt bubble is bursting. Mortgages are a real hot shit right now. Banks are getting under fire when the cascade of bankruptcies is starting - small business and even big ones are highly under danger right now.

One thing is for sure, the FED can never ever raise the interest rates again or the burning card house will implode.

Wtf is going on with Aurora cannabis right now?? it's mooning

>>19232750
We can make the next generation suffer. WE BOOMERS NOW.

>>19232750
This. We are living on borrowed time and boomers are dragging in out so their lovely 401ks aren't getting fucked.

>>19232622
JETS is the safe bet. DAL is the premier usa airline that is the one im longing. LUV seems safe too as long as boeing gets their shit together on the 737 issue.

>>19232781
>One thing is for sure, the FED can never ever raise the interest rates again or the burning card house will implode.
that's actually a good point.

Everything is in such a fragile delusional state that raising the interest rate would basically implode the market

>>19231986
Think about what insider information this guy knows. Hes close in with govt. He knows something is happening, most likely a second wave that keeps being shilled. When it dumps again thats when the real money will be made. Im gonna trust the rich guy and not all the average investors making little to nothing.

>>19232803
>LUV seems safe too as long as boeing gets their shit together on the 737 issue.
Oof

>>19232793
Dude weed lmao

>>19232793
I was gonna exercise my put
but then I got high

>>19232739
why?

>>19232800
>WE BOOMERS NOW.
With none of the positives.

>>19232821
Bro I watched like 4 youtube videos on options trading and have 3 months of trading experience on robinhood with a 4 digit account.

I know more than Warren Buffet.

>>19232855
Were the next lost generation if anything

>>19232821
Berkshire OWNS businesses. If they go under because they can’t access cash, that’s REAL BAD for Berkshire. He needs to make sure he has enough operating capital to keep Geico alive until there’s more visibility of this thing.

Something tells me the govt isn’t going to rush to bail out any of Berkshire's companies.

>>19232765

>>19232861
Unironically true. Wa "Senile Boomer" rren, the (buffet) ogre of omaha, has never actually played the stock market. He has played hostile takeovers and then hired people to do the rest. He also did this off of free insane amounts of money that he was given outright, the kind that end-of-life adults didn't have access to; by the time he was 14.

>FUTRES
>BLODD
>RED

First time we have been on the greed side of the spectrum in 2020. Very bearish

got fucked by china today

Hey anons, need some advice from older, cooler heads because I have limited life experience. Thanks in advance for subscribing to my blog.

I lost my job due to all of this, as in perma-lost because the company closed, I was a programmer.
My wife did too, but only temporarily, she's an office worker.
I immediately went out and got a customer service job at an essential business near me, but some of the workers there were spooked because of the virus and quit or took time off, so I wound up with 70 hours a week because I wanted the money enough to work the extra hours. It's poor money but the hazard pay made it slightly better.
The managers kept threatening to fire me if I didn't stop using my phone at the register, but I told them I was going to be on my phone whenever I wasn't checking someone out, and I was here to act as a cashier not a janitor or stocker regardless of whether they "did things differently around here" as every business seems to say, and they pretty much just had to suck it up because they were short-handed and didn't want to replace me with someone less reliable.
Anyways, I convinced my wife by degrees to go along with me in re-investing pretty much our entire nest egg to add to my existing portfolio (I had the entire thing on 5% stop-loss so I fared okay during the crash).
Gradually through a mixture of convincing her and acting without her knowledge, I ended up doing some pretty risky but calculated day trading with half of the new bolstered portfolio, and despite a few dicey parts it kept on paying off. Since she's gone back to work she's been less worried and hasn't asked me about the portfolio, so I haven't told her much about it, but this bull run has served me even better than the previous crab market did.

I had today off and really sealed things up, decided not to get too greedy or risk-prone and just paid off our mortgage and threw the rest into some long-term growth and dividends stuff.

continued, thanks character limit

>>19232947
Yeah, every single indicator says bears have capitulated. Yet bulls have not capitulated at all during the entire crash.

and not in a good way...

>>19232947
it's all aligning spookily well. see 22nd may

>>19232938
>>19232947
Should I sell during AH?

>>19232962
If you invested in China you fucked yourself

If you lost your job or someone that you know died because of the Wuhan Coronavirus, then you got fucked by China

>>19232947
Anon are you not familiar with the word neutral?

I went to set my divvies to DRIP when I saw "capital gains." What is a "capital gain" in this context? If I do not have it automatically reinvested then what is being collected if it is not a dividend?

>>19232054
Airlines are fucked, they will go to penny stock levels. Only few will survive thanks to a bailout and consolidate with the non-balied out ones.
They will not recover until lockdowns worldwide are lifted and flyers don't face 14 day lockdowns at their destination.
Airlines will be worth buying once they consolidate and the surviving ones are bailed out by the gov and buffet.

Thank you to whoever bought 500 shares of TMDX from me at 16.82. I look forward to buying them back from you at $13 or maybe even $12 during the next leg down.

Anyone know why in the goddamn motherfucking FUCK the market decided to dump Lockheed, Eli Lilly, and Campbell's Soup today?

>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-assembly-plant-chicago-workers-leave-coronavirus-covid-19-positive/#app
Goys.... This is priced in Right?

>>19232991
are you not familiar what half of 100 is

>>19232800
You can't be a boomer anon, you're a virgin.

Bobros... are we gonna make it?

>>19232967
>paid off our mortgage
if we get inflation, that's a bad call. depends on how much your rate was.
so far so good though

>>19232967
>acting without her knowledge
RIP

Capitalists love to hoard gains and pass on losses to their workers. It’s a failed system that benefits only capitalists.

>>19233033
We made it already anon

>>19233014
so that I can buy them for cheap

>>19233025
no one cares about automotive sector anymore, those boomers are priced out

>>19233060
>bailouts
>capitalism
No

>>19233060
There wouldn't be any bailouts without the gov

>>19233027
You're very clearly new to the fear and greed index. There are 3 sections, not 2, so already your half of 100 post is retarded, not to mention that the 3rd part is a small range in the middle labeled neutral.

>>19232575
EDGAR is probably what you are looking for

>>19233060
stop being poor

>>19232994
Return on capital is a cash payment that isn't in the same class as dividend. For tax purposes you have to consider it a reduction of your cost basis. For example, if you bought at $5 and get $0.05 of return on capital, and the stock falls to $4, you have to consider this a loss of $0.95, not $1. However, if the stock instead goes to $6, you must consider it a gain of $1.05 and not $1. You pay no tax on this until you sell your stocks, in which case you pay capital gains taxes on the portion of the money that represents the difference of value as calculated above.
There are also other kinds of non-dividend dividend-like payments as what MLPs pay (those are basically business income, they don't pay tax on it and you pay tax on their behalf, in exchange they give you a higher payout). The exact treatment of these things is complicated and you really need to inform yourself on these, doubly so if you're not american where it's a whole other level of mess.

>>19233081
This, capitalists believe in corporate darwinism, it's politicians that push bailouts.

>>19233060
bailouts are indeed retarded, but have nothing to do with capitalism.
Who can blame any company? Everyone knows nowadays if you are too big to fail, the gv is there for you.

Are there any sectors that will do anything once this all passes, whenever that is?
Is it just tech, healthcare, and when it stops being a full meme: AI?

>>19233090
Show me on here where it says neutral please

>>19233097
By first glance it looks so. Thank you!

>>19233145
Vix as fear and greed is a brainlet meme. Drop this shit.

>>19232874
Of course. All im saying is buffet who not only has more information than us plus the best investors in the world most likely knows something is going to happen.He even stated himself he doesnt feel anything is at the right value to buy yet. Take that as a indication.

I can't believe these Jews are bringing the price of gold back to unchanged now that it's jewish only trading hours. They literally just jack the price up for the cash session so they can all exit and then just rebuy cheaper during their after hours circle jerk,

Anyone else seen the $BABA drop? I've made 30% on that, I feel like some insiders sold before the earning report. I've sold the put for a gain, but still, seems like it'll go down tomorrow

Hey, guys.
I really need this bitch to crash.
please, and thanks

>>19232985
How do you have access to AH trading?

I'm up almost 7%, but it's happening earlier than I wanted it to. Things are still low compared to 3 months ago though.

>>19233176
they sold on news of a bipartisan bill to drop all chink companies from us exchanges.

>>19233194
you asked politely
I will dump the market for you

>>19233194
I'm making the call now
Check out futures later

>>19233197
He's probably Jewish.

>>19233150
Glad to help, fren. Sort of a confusing tool to navigate but when you get the swing of it you can do some good digging.

>>19233145
In your original picture. Notice the grey colored section on both sides of the chart? That's neutral.

rate my genius buffet level high IQ strategy
step 1 DCA on high yield dividend stocks
step 2 use high yield returns on a solid divvy ETF
step 3 never lose any money ever

>>19233060
Socialisim during good times:
N/A

>>19233197
Robinhood has AH. People talk shit about it, but it's the beat broker for gambling on the stock market

>>19233037
It's less economic and more symbolic, but it's nice to have one less fetter regardless.
>>19233048
Uhhhm ackshyually I acted with her PARTIAL knowledge anon. She is, like most good women, very risk-averse and domestically talented.
>>19233060
Bailouts are corporate socialism, nice try. Weak companies should die, and I say that having been demoted to cashier because my place went out of business.

>>19232967
Anyways, so I was waiting for my wife to come home today to give her the good news. The economy is really popping right back in my state and they're still on semi-lockdown so she basically takes and redirects calls and does accounting and ticketing stuff all day from her desk. I guess today was really busy, also she had to go in early, like 4am, to do some data processing stuff by hand since somehow the script got borked.
So she comes in all exhausted and downcast, and I showed her the portfolio and then dropped the news that this was minus the full amount of our mortgage which was now paid.
Anyways, she was shocked and crossed her legs really hard, then for a minute she got uncharacteristically mad at me because she thought I was joking with her, but after I said I was serious she was very happy and cried a little but also was blushing, and I finally noticed she peed herself, and when she noticed my bulge uwu she said sorry, that it had been a long day and she'd had no time for any breaks, then turned around to show me her wet patch and laughed about it and said she'd get in the shower and be ready to go after that, she knew it had been a while because of our schedules.
So naturally I went and did her in the shower, but she genuinely is exhausted so she's sleeping right now with a towel still around her hair.

From the way she acted I think she thought I just wanted to have sex, and doesn't realize I rediscovered an old kink when she wet herself.
My question for wiser people is do I tell her, or do I suffer in silence having probably missed my moment?

>>19233198
>Things are still low compared to 3 months ago though.
okokok. enough with the delusion pls.

HRL comfy buy AH

>String zem along for anuthzer week, zen crash ‘eet

Hey Anon! Yes YOU! Close your eyes. Think about MONEY. Relax. Count to 5... Now $$$$$ who are you thinking about?

>>19233217
Oh damn

>>19232793
Bought out Reliva. I'm trying to figure out how to play it

>>19233266
Nothing wrong with it except the time you need for it to be worthwhile.

>>19233317

>>19233316
this kind of mentality is how people end up homeless

>>19233280
>My question for wiser people is do I tell her
you mean, do you tell her that you're into it when she pees herself?
you should go and pee on her now (just a bit, not a lot), and then tell her to buy REFR

>>19233269
that's probably the most clever thing you've ever said and I commend you

UHHHHHHH HELLO???? BASED DEPARTMENT???????

>>19233294
I guess when you think about it the economic certainty is much better today than it was 3 months ago. I guess stocks should go up from here since we at least have some guidance and can see that this wuhan flu isn't the end of the world like we thought it was.

>>19233217
clarification*

the bill is just a junk regulation that threatens delisting for chinese companies that dont meet up to their standards but in reality will do nothing at all

politicians just want to look like they're being tough on china

the battery in my car just died bros :/


long AZO?

>>19232057
>>19232089
The only things that could sink this ship are:

1. Rising interest rates, which obviously the fed is not going to do for several years at least.
2. A second lockdown
3. A surprise major war

>>19233311
I think HRL is a comfy buy at any time

>>19233382
War with Iran starts this weekend.

>>19233280
cool larp dude

>>19233060
Replace capitalists with (((capitalists))) and he'd be right.

>>19233382
>1. Rising interest rates
tightening credit will do this too. can't stop insolvency if you can't get fresh debt. We're yet to see what the fed and banks deem as "credit-worthy"

>>19233317
MRO

why isn't there a stock market bandwagon on buying the dip just like there was a HUGE bandwagon into buying weed stocks

i am not happy with +5% that will get reversed in a single day

>>19233359
Yeah that's what I mean.
How long do you guys think the REFR meme is going to last?

>>19233363
The issue is their standards include oversight by one of SEC's board and, if I'm not mistaken, that's banned by chinese law.

>>19232196
I am up 10% today. went into some spreads monday and my long term stocks are up.

>>19232912
How is that picture a 1:1 ratio and lines up perfectly with her hair at the top, yet her frown still shows underneath?

>>19233432
ETF algos buy everything in bulk. Hedge funds rebalance across entire sectors
Most of the huge moves are TA algos baiting or trying to beat other TA algos

>>19233434
REFR has been on the earth for longer than I have, and I'm pretty old
As a meme, it's been around for about a year now. I'm glad that guy stopped making REFR-shill OPs, that was very annoying for the couple weeks he was doing that
I don't know if it will ever end. Maybe if it actually gets some momentum and runs to $20 he will sell it and shill something else

>>19233432
DUDE

>>19233473
it's a uhh drawing

FUCK ACB AND FUCK AH FUCKING KIKES

What's the deal with pharmaceutical/biotechnology companies? There's always random ones popping up that get pumped and dumped all the time. By the time I can research any of them to know what to invest in the gravy train is long gone.

How do people know which ones to go for? Like SURF went up 45%. How in the fuck would I have ever guessed that?

>>19233473
could be that the picture was taken from a higher angle and it's being doubly emphasized from being bent forward.

>I did nothing but hold today with my longs and ride the luscious waves of tranquil green energy

Poorfag here, what fractional shares should I buy via CashApp?

There's nothing in the way to mooning now

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>>19233547
iktf

>>19233524
HAHAH JUST SAW, FUCK YOU

>>19233542
They're pure speculation plays. The basic principles is, if you develop something and it's actually viable, you're looking at endless money pouring out of the endeavor, which means the stock is now worth the world. So those companies, which are very scummy on average, with even scummier stockholders, tend to give bullshit news, which pumps them hard. It's easy in combination with no stockholder understanding bioscience. When the truth comes out that they were bullshitting, it dumps. Of course it's no real secret, so algos and whales love to pump 'em, let retail follow, and dump before said news comes out.

all I do is watch the line go up and down every day without buying anything

>>19233552
There's that giant hole below $200 we could fall in.

>>19233609
me too

Got BYND 138 weekly put, shit went 160% in a month

So this is it

>>19233103
Ah okay. Looks like it's back to the drawing board. Not planning to sell but it looks like this is a variable that I did not account for. Thank you for the information.

>>19233609
Beats the fuck out of bagholding TVIX from 318.

>>19233629
we were falling into that hole, but jerome already filled the hole with money, and now we are going up up up

>>19233609
>>19233640
there are still things out there to buy if you search. look for individual stocks who have been brought down but still have good value.
I'm buying some stocks every week that have good earnings through the virus, but share prices that make it look like they're going out of business.
chaos = opportunities. eventually all the nerds in finance will have time to sort through all of these companies and buy the stocks, but they haven't yet, because so much has been going on in such a short time. The opportunities are out there.

>>19233713
>but share prices that make it look like they're going out of business.
please don't say you're going into financials.

>>19233609
>>19233640
just buy a Vanguard index fund, hold it, and LARP in on the fun

that's what I'm doing...

>>19233713
>there are still things out there to buy if you search. look for individual stocks who have been brought down but still have good value.
Funny how /biz/ srly thinks value investing is still possible.

new

>>19233581
>>19233581
>>19233581
>>19233581

>>19233609
I fomo'd a bit today so we dump tomorrow for sure

>>19233712
No one warned you?
damn shame, that.

>>19233712
Beats bagholding SQQQ at $28

>>19233755
Just don't panic sell..hodl, hodl, hodl

>>19232220
McDonalds gives me the shits.

>>19233609
kek im cash only until things cool down
i dont understand a single thing about why its moving the way it is right now so im sticking it out

>>19233746
You're early and a faggot suicide preventer.

>>19233727
OTC stocks, some international

>>19233741
it really is though
some things change, so things never change.

>>19233801
ah, good. best of luck

>>19233790
I have 2k sitting in a Fidelity that I want to play around with. I'm just not sure what I want to do with it or how many stocks I should invest in, whether it's better to have 10 shares of 1 stock or 2 shares of 5 stocks, etc.

I have been thinking about toying around with covered calls on lower value stocks too but I want to understand them more before I do

>>19233581
>>19233581
>>19233581
>>19233581

>>19232781
I was actually thinking about this yesterday. At what point can the fed ever raise interest rates? The amount of suffering they would cause would crash everything.

They turbocharged the economy and they have no wastegate...its only massive inflation in front of us. We have no way to slow it down.

I hope that when it does crash, everyone realizes their meddling caused this and we abolish them. No more fed meddling.

>>19233984
>I hope that when it does crash, everyone realizes their meddling caused this and we abolish them. No more fed meddling.
Do you see an Andrew Jackson anywhere?

>>19233258
So easily baited. It's like we're in 2017 again

>>19233552
Look at after-hours chart... We need to push little more then we will rip up

>>19234037
they say a new Volcker is born every generation...

>>19233984
they should be able to keep rates at near-zero and then very very slowly begin to walk them up in a few months
maybe 0.25% by the end of Q1 2021 and 0.75% by the end of 2021. I think they will be very slow and deliberate about it. The difference between 0% and 0.5% is a lot, for some companies it will be painful, but it will eventually happen.
I think that you will see the fed do a good job of signalling months in advance for these rate hikes.
They might indicate that they are looking at increasing the rate a quarter out, and then re-iterate or back off of that signalling at future meetings before making the final decision.

>>19234115
Unthinkable. They tried that in 2019 and caused a mini-crash, now they only made the matter worse.

>>19234309
the market was throwing a little tantrum, which it will do again, but the economy was fine
in late 2018 they were raising the rates somewhat quickly and had to turn less hawkish
raising the rates very, very slowly is a different thing. Yes, the stock market will throw a little tantrum when they announce it, but in the end it will be OK

>>19234361
I don't believe this. Everything remains as overleveraged as ever. Increased rates means death for almost all the companies, not just because they'll fail to roll their debts, but because it prevents them from expending that aggressively for the next few years.

>>19233713
That strategy isn't working out mate..

>>19234389
an increase from 0% to 0.25% might mean certain companies no longer are viable, sure. But not "most companies", only a small handful. the point is to extend the pain over a much longer time, so that the economy as a whole can stay productive and unemployment stays low.
One of the tasks of the fed and the treasury is to make sure that we don't have a 2008 when a bunch of stuff blows up all at the same time. Right now they're putting up sandbags to try and limit the flooding to the unavoidable sectors while keeping everything else dry. They can't save everyone.
Almost all companies, and certainly the largest ones, will not be put out of business by federal funds rates of 0.25%, 0.5%, etc. Some companies (who are probably on the way out anyway), will be hurt by it. These are companies with terrible debt levels that are probably already paying above 5% or 10% or more for bonds. That's just the way the world works

>>19234419
bug closed as WORSKFORME

>>19232706
wtf is nber dot org
not clickin that shit
>>19232718
jej
>>19232705
mumu is way too smug and there will be repercussions
>>19232779
just buying tqqq would net you 20% past few days, and spy probably 10% by now
>>19233176
who the fuck buys from baba aside from scammers who then resell on amazon and ebay. who actually waits 2+ weeks to get something from china so they can save a few bucks.
>>19233360
This is the Based Dept. We are Experiencing High Call Volume.
>>19233558
china is doomed. YANG for the win (2x short china)
>>19233767
your patience will be rewarded...just 2 more weeks or 2 more months who knows.

>>19232372
Long term bear here
Gap up
Hope you didnt sell

>>19235212
It stands National Bureau of Economic Research, it says it right in the image retard.

>>19235326
>ok let's waste time reading this paper from 1995 by some heeb who was completely wrong about markets but it doesn't matter because he's an authority figure who controls money supply
no thanks

>>19233524
fuckin ACB!