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>>19121870

I should really save the OP text so I can start ones when they die at 3am lol
is that other sword anon still around? want to duel lol

>>19140268

I'm here.

Let's duel buddy. First time I have pulled this sword out in almost 10 years.

im tempted to order a bat boi, convince me either way. doesn't really fit into my stack but all of yours' are getting me jealous.

>>19140315
lol nice, I was joking. I can't duel with a 150 yr old sword... well I mean how valuable is yours?
a duel could add some character to it lol

>>19140401
anon they're nice, but don't expect to make money off them. well at least for awhile, 5 to 10 years from now I could see them fetching a nice premium

Picked up three eagles at the flea market today

>>19140410
>>19140315
i would stake a some bets in 1oz coins over this duel

>>19140439
how much? is flea market sus during COVID?

t. basement dweller last two months

>>19140401

They are stupid and I have a tube of them.

>>19140410
Not that valuable I guess they cost $630 new I just checked the price. I'm not sure if you could legally order one if you don't rate to be issued it.

>>19140439
very nice anon, I don't feel bad for buying some at 23ish online but the premiums are brutal right now
I can't wait for Indianapolis to open up again, theres got to be some decent finds

Are we expecting one last price drop on silver or is the moon rocket going into T Minus?

>>19140462
I paid $75. Pretty much the same as online. And the flea market in my town is year round But it just reopened last weekend

>>19140468
legally order? oh shit anon are you in some hell hole like Europe or California? i'm in the midwest

>>19140447

Who would you favor?

>>19140503

Nah dude it's a military issued item.

I don't think it would be a problem but you never know.

loligold

Most recent pickup before premiums exploded. I actually got this for about $20 over spot. I can't stomach the current premiums so just buying mining stocks instead for now.

>>19140533
very nice, do you know if they still make them like they used to? do you think it could actually hold up in a fight?
I've heard a lot of modern swords for show look great, but would get cut in half against a long sword...

>>19140503
lol I'm in california it's not bad besides online 7.5% tax. But all the guys on ebay and my LCSs just waive tax because cash only P2P transaction

>>19140511
i'd need to see some promo vids from both displaying their skill set first
>>19140565
most of the premium is probably from those stupid grading sleeves, just buy bullion grade stuff for cheap

>>19140642
anon, it really is that bad... you just don't realize it because the pot your in has slowly been turned up over 30 years.

>>19140511
>>19140665
lol always vote on the marine. even if i was in good physical shape, i would still have my doubts. my only real hope is since my sword, despite it being 140ish years old, its solid it was meant for this

Going to a poker game tonight where the buy in is 40 ASE. Wish me luck

>>19140226
where do i get that bar?

>>19140665
All of the premiums are high right now. I have plenty of physical so I'm not worried which is why I've switched to only buying mining stocks for now. I wouldn't be buying numismatics right now, either. The only numis I have are because they were so close to spot price for so long that I would rather have a cool 1908 or 1912 coin than a brand new 2020 gold eagle.

Keep stacking bois

>>19140711
OO good luck with your pirate poker

>>19140711
god speed anon, ask if they'll take pics of the stash, would be cool to see

>>19140739
Thanks
>>19140753
Pictures are frowned upon. Not my house so I’ll abide

>>19140704
california is garbage in a lot of ways, but in terms of in person buying/selling and ownership of bullion there is no limitations legally

>>19140410
looks like aknights of pythias sword

Thank you for your service, bag holders. Make sure to continue buying way over spot price and sell at spot price to your local coin shop dealers, they are poor small businesses suffering from the pandemic heheh.

>>19140879
mines a civil war sabre, union cavalry.

>>19140410
You have to accept the duel. Winner inherits the losers silver.

>>19141049
agreed, to first blood?
also we need a go pro to stream it lol

>>19141098
where are you guys located? i can stream it if localish

>>19140268
Nice Taurus, doesnt surprise me the silver fags cant afford decent firearms.

what do you nibbas think about buying silver on ETF

put in a position on SIVR a few weeks ago. up a few percent already but i wish i had batboys instead

>>19141543
everyone will reee at you, but i think its fine to play the market that way. would be better if you had physical, but a gain is a gain

>>19141543
bumping this

How is everyone’s PM folio? I can’t wait to get paid. I’m going to dump money into $MAG and $AUY.

I think I’m already priced out of $NEM

>>19140226
Am I going to make it bros?

>>19141423
Taurus makes some great products, they just don't have the quality control. so on that handgun it could use better sites, but i fired 100 rounds through it at a inside range. no misfires no jams, i'm pretty content with it.
i'm definitely to cheap to buy a glock those things are so over priced. a smith n Wesson, colt, bushmaster. can't go wrong with those brands

>>19141628
Hello mister heeb yes things are great
So tell me where is the secret jew bunker where we all go when we reset the world? I forgot

>>19141673
I think you might just make it lol. although last time i did the math you're gonna need 1600 ounces to get a million on the next boom. so you might have to use those weapons more then you think lol

>>19140720
Its a Antiqued Jesus clears the temple by silver shield GSM, I bought it right at the start of the crash for 190 because I thought it was a beautiful piece I wish I has bought more because I think the person who owns silver shield went off the deep end.

>>19141673
100% yes

>>19141705
Flint, MI

>>19141705
right? me to. obviously its in new Zealand...

Am I gonna make it?

>>19141692
Ditch the Taurus buy a smith, glock or at the very least a beretta apx or Springfield XD. That taurus will fucking fail on you before 1000 rounds.

>>19141751
100% no.

>>19141751
i remember these things going for money, like certain ones. and my parents were just like but its a picture on cardboard, its worth like a penny lol...
i guess the eternal boomer won that round...

>>19141770
yeah, when silver starts mooning. maybe at 30/oz i'll quit investing all my money in silver and start taking care of other stuff. like i need new NBC mask they have chromium leaks...

Looking to get an ounce of gold, first gold purchase. Question though, is it true that the government tracks you if you own gold? Even only an ounce?

>>19141868
yes comrade in soviet Russia, potato man will come visit if you have gold

>>19141751
I used to have a pogmaker lol

I would just grab a japanimation magazine and an old box and have a grand ole afternoon

>>19140226
I used my credit card to stack silver 0% intro APR for 15 months and 2% cash back which gave me not only more room to catch silver at good prices but, gave me some bitching credit for a house. I am close to 500 ounces but, I don't think ill make it to 1000 working my wagie job

>>19141903
That sounds comfy as hell.

>>19141868
i would assume that they would be aware of it, yes (e.g., any major company might report, or through CC payments)
unless you acquire it from like personal interactions / off the grid, they probably know i think. or, i would assume as much

>>19141989
anon we have time, in the short term. prices should drop when more people go back to work, since demand for metals that are mined with silver go back up in demand. then expect a second wave of the wu flu and a second drop in demand, really it might be worth saving up at this point and hoping the dealers will have supply by the next crash

>>19142019
I personally don't think this is over, its just the beginning

>>19140498
so, 25 per g of silver? damn

19 gram gold
Over 50 oz silver

Probably gonna get more gold next week

>>19141989
based, doing the same with intro bonuses and using bank bonuses to stack

>>19141673
Yes.

>>19142077
just checked, random yr ASE's 24 and change... its crazy how ASE's are holding value right now. makes me want to sell mine for 25, since i think they'll drop soon

Should I buy gold now or wait to see where prices go when markets reopen soon? Or wait a few weeks or months? Afraid of a big boomer sell off by FOMO buyers who want cash back for expenses when coronachan goes away. Though every pandemic does come with a larger wave 2 and that might hit us by Sept/Oct and the buying of PM's begin again. But that sell off will tank prices and I can get more gold for cheap than pay now.

Thats if prices drop though. China and Korea are re-shutting down things for spikes in cases and Texas has new spikes after they re-opened 2 weeks ago. This wave may just extend until the 2nd wave with no price drop off and even shorter supply of PM's like gold.

What do?

>>19142449
so I've heard so much gold is bought by banks and large players, that small investors can't make a big dent in gold prices.
silver of the other hand is a different issue.

anon look in less then 5 years gold will hit 3k, when exactly i can't say but plan long term, and just buy responsibly when you're able

>>19142548
Well I have 253oz silver already but no gold and have enough to buy 2oz but I dont know if now or later would be opportune time or I should just get more silver while the ratio is decent then sell later for gold when the ratio drops to 2011 levels and then rake in that sweet gold.

>>19142603
i don't know about gold honestly. i think silver will have some more waves before it starts climbing
i also believe, some based on fact and others on predictions that.
Gold = 3k Silver = 60
short term, its up in the air. i think you got time before prices start climbing, so why not hold for a few months hoping it dips again

>>19142603
Do you have any crypto?

>>19140226
Fuck that bat is gonna be valuable one day.

>>19140226
nice pic of $100

I quit buying precious metals and moved into crypto.
I have one ounce of gold and 20 ounces of silver, I'd much rather use crypto to moon with.
The metals are just wealth presevation, nothing more.

>>19142663
Seems reasonable enough. Ill watch for a while and monitor these threads, lot of good info gets posted. 3k/60 for gold and silver is a common number I see.

>>19142754
None, I never understood it and it seemed like too much of a scam/gamble with a million different coins to buy in with no value to them other the prospect of potential pump and dumps with like 5 coins actually having any use to them like BTC ETH and the Chainlink I see posted a lot. I would like to be in some crypto but I am just not knowledgeable about it.

I guess China is making their own and will switch to it soon. They did burn a ton of their money due to the virus.

>>19142906
LINK really will get you amazing returns

>>19142927
>blocks your path

I'm waiting on my first oz of platinum to come in. Gonna put it next to my little pebbles of osmium and ruthenium.

>t. poorfag gradstack

>>19142977
Disgusting.

>>19143015
don't be a hater anon, silver is beautiful

>>19141673
I like the knife. I have a MM-IV somewhere I bought from a buddy at Camp Pendleton.

>>19142927
Why? Where will it go? When to buy? How do I even but it?

>>19142848

ugh theres this old mom at work and i want her to smother me with her sweaty tits so bad

>>19143307
You can buy it from coinbase, pretty sure some crypto atms have it, theres several other exchanges that have it. It will be the back bone infrastructure to the 4th industrial revolution anon.

Fellas do I buy a half oz of gold or another 50oz of silver?

>>19143586
Why chainlink and not the other billion coins out there?

>>19143893
Don’t buy Chainlink. That shit is not doing anything until Sergey gets off his lazy fat ass

>>19140401
One of us

>>19143893
It was revealed to me one night on LSD that LINK would be the highest gaining crypto from actually bringing utility to crypto and legacy financial services.

>>19140401
>he doesn't own a single bat

>>19143975
This

>>19143809
What do you have now?

>>19143118
Gold is nice too

how was everyones day? I ve been building rocker boxes and sluices, setting up a new washplant on commission, might be testing someone else's ground before my own. Gold in the pan today too, so that was a bonus!

Getting pretty sick of porn being on /biz/ guys.

>>19140401
>>19144060
Ordering 1 & one other similar mint from California missions. Dropping roughtly $250 on 10 oz isn't going to hurt, but rather only help. Inflation is just bursting. Ill drop $300 on pure gold too at this point.

>>19144242
Do you keep the gold you find or sell it? I found on another forum this guy in New Mexico who was finding a significant amount of nuggets, but he converted it all into USD.

>>19144555
I usually keep nuggets to sell to private buyers. I sell my fine gold only if I have to, at the moment I sold about 3/4s of my gold off from last season to pay for hard rock exploration work this year. Also that is amazing looking reef gold, couldnt have moved 100 yards from the source.

Thinking of buying another batbox, boys.. what do you think?

>>19144247
Just imagine all the coomers starving to death in the streets during a deflationary spiral anon.
Think of it like a visualization exercise.

>>19144800
Rather peofetic anon. .
Plus the doubles.
That said its not healthy.
"The fool falls the coward obtains victory"
- St. Alphonsus liguori

>>19144735
cheapest price i see for those is 123 a piece. damn anon that's pricey
>>19144242
welcome pan man, your garage reminds me of the 90's...

Is there a difference between the different PAMP Suisse Assays or the Green and Black Perth Mint Assays? I dont see why one would be a different coloror why one PAMP style would be different price than another PAMP style if both are the same weight.

>>19145039
Dont think so. I looked into that with the KOMSCO assay bars and I think it's just preference. Same mintage just different colors lol.

>>19145039
it's a question of how many times the style has been counterfeited. The older PAMP's and Perths have millions of fakes.

the newer ones have better security features and fewer fakes.

>>19144735
B A T C H A D
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>>19140226
im getting into crypto so i can flip it for some silver and gold 1 oz coins

>>19144965
"Hey those are some real shiny chalices you boys have there. Mind if I take a look?"
-Henry VIII

>>19145154
I assume the PAMP Fortunas are newer since they have that Veriscan thing but which Pert Mint ones are newer the Green or Black?

>>19141734
He deleted all the vids and contacts from his yt channel. The guy went totally black without a warning. Pretty sad, i thought his vids were pretty comfy.
Do anyone know what happened to Silver Shield?

>>19144735
Please do, How do You have the self control to keep it sealed?

>>19144735
Bat box = Bat Emperor
Bat tube = Bat Lord that serves under emperor
5 Batboi = Bat General in Emperors army
1 Batboi = Bat garrison commander in Lords castle

>>19145221
>I assume the PAMP Fortunas are newer since they have that Veriscan thing
Yes, but there's still millions of Chinese counterfeits of the Fortunas out there. You can get them for $19 on Alibaba and other sites.

>but which Pert Mint ones are newer the Green or Black?
I don't know, sorry. I only know there's fakes of those as well.

>>19145210
>"Hey those are some real shiny chalices you boys have there. Mind if I take a look?"
>-Henry VIII
Anglicans eternally blown out of the holy water baptismal fonts.

>>19145225
He posted some mystery shit on his only YT video

With gold going up the way it has, I ve already seen about 6 groups head out into the wilderness for an early start to the season. I don't think even a quarter of them know what they are doing but they keep buying this tiny trailer wash plant setups that are total garbage. I am wondering what they spent on buying claims to go with them.

>>19145270
I doubt that, we left them because they weren't made of silver!

>>19145257
There is no chance of JM Bullion or someone like them sending fakes right? Do godless chinks also sell fake Gold Eagles?

>>19145354
Reputable dealers do NOT send fakes

there are fake gold eagles but not many
fake ASE's are currently where the smart Chinese money is at

>>19145354
>>19145369
>Reputable dealers do NOT send fakes

the real problem isn't so much keeping fakes out of your collection. That's easy. Just buy from actual dealers.

the real problem is trying to sell your collection later. Not that anyone here plans to sell. But when it comes time to sell something that has millions of fakes it becomes more difficult to find someone willing to buy second hand.

Morning lads, checking in

>>19145404
Well LCS's should have those machines to verify, though opening the assay would suck I guess. I want to get one myself.

>>19145369
>fake ASE's are currently where the smart Chinese money is at
Wouldnt that fail a magnet test? Or even the ringing test or weight/gravity? What are those fakes made of?

>>19145451
it's hard to check a bar that's wrapped in a security card. But yeah, they could remove it.
>Wouldnt that fail a magnet test? Or even the ringing test or weight/gravity? What are those fakes made of?
some of them are steel and fail all tests. Some are lead/antimony and fail some tests. Most are silver and don't fail any test.

basically you pay a $12 premium for an ASE and it turns out to be a generic Chinese round that might or might not be pure silver. Most of the silver ones are a weak alloy.

>>19145492
Chinks keep making them because retards keep buying them. Shame.

>>19145531
It's actually pretty sad.

I read reviews from people that bought them and it's almost always grandpa or grandma buying a coin for the grandkid they love so much. Pisses me off to b honest.

Chinese need to choke on a dick. Preferably a fake silver dick.

>>19145433
Today on novelty silver I bought just because, is this beautiful beast. No historical value, just looks cool. I just wanted it.

>>19145593
I really like it. Wish I could fondle.

>>19145616
>Wish I could fondle.
fondle away

proof restrikes usually sell for scrap

Where do prices move when markets open back up soon

>>19145312
>we
Go watch Taylor Marshal.
Not digging into this anymore anon, especially on /biz/.
You can rebutted, but I'm not responding.
I'm only posting this because I love the catholic church & care enough about you to provide this text.

For remember my friend...


>Anglicans are not valid orders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolicae_curae
>Full papal text
https://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_le13ac.htm

>What happens when bishops deny the faith? King Henry viiI V.S John Fisher
https://youtu.be/_vVzk0Vtx5Q

>The Oxford movement.
https://youtu.be/aRqE0clLw_w

>A Henry and a Thomas
https://youtu.be/JJM1yDBhCT0

>The true story of the gun powder plot & Guy Fox
https://youtu.be/x7vzZ2okk-Q

>>19144800
oh no no no no....

That sweet sweet increase this week.

>>19145701
metals aren't great for day trading, swing trading, futures, or arbitrage unless you're a multimillionaire.

6-12 months they should be way up.

>>19145807
Can't wait to have a chart like this everyday

>>19145807
keep going up dam it! This is great!

>>19145404
It is a good idea to keep your receipts, also for for the insurance if things ever get stolen

Is there any reason to buy gold instead of silver right now or the foreseeable future?

>>19145847
It's coming :)
>>19145870
Hey pan man, creighton mine anon here. About another 100 until ATH

>>19145679
My own personal rule is don't fondle anything above .600 much if its in decent condition. I use a 1967 Kennedy or my general pile of scrap silver if I feel the need.

I've just actually won a cheap unsealed sterling proof, I'll check it's condition when it arrives. If it is pretty rough it's my new daily fondle piece. The '67 can go back in the scrap box.

>>19146014
Yes, there are pros and cons, but silver is so undervalued rn you better focus on it for the moment.

>>19146082
Does it matter if I buy pricey eagles, or get a nice fancy RCM and Scottsdale bars or the most generic of ugly silver because silver is silver?

>>19145993
meh

coins can be faked, receipts can be faked, and thefts can be faked.

if your insurance pays out it's just because it's not worth fighting in court. They have no reason to believe you were robbed just like I have no reason to believe your coin goes with your receipt or your receipt is real and nobody has any reason to believe your coin is real.

it's a tough nut to crack, but coin buyers rely on a set of tests most of /pmg/ is unaware of, so it's ok.

>>19146080
Damn just gotta play with it again now

do i add more philharmonics to my attempt at filling a monster box or get a bat boi memecoin for stupid premium

>>19146167

>>19146200
>00
Nice. More is always more than less, always get the most you can unless you are collecting it purely for its nicety and you personally appreciate it. If not, you're wasting potential stackage.

>>19145993
anon, most insurance policies have a cap at like $500 for precious metals and jewelry. you need to actually talk with someone about adding coverage for your shit, if you expect them to pay out

in terms of gold im also thinking of trying to build a tube of either 1/4-1/10 philharmonics to match my philharmonic monster box, or try to build a tube of swiss helvetias

what do you guys reckon? desu i like sticking to the theme

You think Silver Shield is going to make a Coronavirus related round?

>>19146112
Fake a theft/robbery??? I don’t know where you live, but the insurance can just ask for the police report.

When you have the receipt, the your information is also stored at the dealer. The second hand buyer can just call them to verify if you bought from them

>>19146405
your text is accurate but that photo is all wrong anon, turn that bat boi right side up (you know what i mean) and stick a firearm in the photo

>>19146072
excellent, I haven't been on my pc much for a few days, too busy getting things ready and or working.

>>19145289
I bet you could get rich just helping people buy the correct mining equipment and walking them through the process of prospecting and purchasing mining claims.

>>19144735
I can’t imagine what having a full monster box must feel like. I can only afford one 2020 ASE and that make me glow with feels.

I vote pick up another box of eagles.

>>19146405
>Fake a theft/robbery??? I don’t know where you live, but the insurance can just ask for the police report.
because it's impossible to lie to the police...
>When you have the receipt, the your information is also stored at the dealer. The second hand buyer can just call them to verify if you bought from them
we store your ID for 3 years at best. Most of us don't store it at all once the IRS forms have been submitted. 1 year. And if you want me to search my records for your sale it's going to cost more than the coin is worth. And even if I do that doesn't prove that you didn't fake a robbery or that you didn't substitute a fake coin that was later stolen or offered for sale.

essentially nothing you suggest is good proof of anything. Once the coin leaves my hands I have no evidence of what you did with it.

>>19146405
Thought i was the only pmg bro with a crossbow lol

That's the cobra innit? They now have a repeating version with a magazine on top which is functionally similar to a pistol crossbow though, the bolts are proprietary too

I have one from man kung that packs 130lbs in total

>>19146481
That is part of what I do yes, when people hire me to look for gold on their placer properties I usually end up getting side commissioned to optimize their setups. The shit people build on a budget to go mining is nuts, and some of the crap they buy thinking it will make them rich is even more insane. One crew I worked with last year bought these giant 9ftx9ft plastic spiral concentrator setups from a Chinese supplier. They had no idea actually how they worked or what they were used for and ended up spending another $60 thousand on the rest of the gear to run them. They did get gold but never enough to break even.

>>19146445
Like this?
Would post gun if I allowed to HAVE ONE.

T. europoor

>>19146625
i assume you meant it like this. but anon that is very sad. does your country let you have antiques? in the US they made these fancy coach guns, which is pretty much just a short barrel shotgun with some silver and gold inlay. but they're from the 1800's so you get around all sorts of laws...

>>19139148
>it's what is a store of value you dumdum : the energy spent to acquire it.
Right.
So that random trench I dug is a store of value.

>>19139582
>Yes, if that trench is something you can now sell at a market, it stays a trench for the forseeable future, and it can be moved around.
lmao, look at those goalposts fly.

Goldbugs are literally retarded.

>>19146625
helps if i actually post one

>>19146571
Lol thats crazy, looks like a rocket engine. Thanks for sharing that.

Its funny how real gold fever is especially when the price gets high. I deeply regret not picking up a cheap claim on the American river in California back in 2001 when gold was only worth around $375 an ounce.

Part of me just wants to look for gold just because it sounds interesting, but I have very little money and a beater low clearance car. I do have a gold pan and a metal detector though. I feel like gold miners are skeptical and superstitious and would be hard to convince letting me join them.

Pic related, my lifetime of gold found panning.

>>19146554
Yeah it is the Cobra RX R9 also 130 lbs, I got the last one at a local dump store. The where sold out everywhere apparently.

The repeating one is awesome! Your are right, you need special special bolts for that one

>>19146625
what country do you live in?

>>19146697
>I feel like gold miners are skeptical and superstitious and would be hard to convince letting me join them.
we don't join

if you're next to us and you're not on our land you're fine, we ignore you. That's the best you can hope for unless we feel like showing you our take in exchange for seeing yours

otherwise it's a solitary and secretive hobby, not a social function. You don't join. We don't join. That's gay and we're not gay.

>>19146697
also good looking catch. fill your vial with water so it magnifies.

>>19146722
I suppose what I’m looking for is a way to apprentice with the goal of learning, and then assemble a team to work together.

>>19146770
very easy anon, give pan man 20k and i'm sure he put up with you for a couple weeks lol

>>19146770
we're super secretive about the local details.

I have an uncle and cousin working the Rogue River in OR just making an ounce a month off moss on the banks. But they sure as fuck won't tell you what they're doing or how to do it.

I know places with a couple ounces to the ton of rough crystal dust and the occasional nugget to be found with a detector, but I have no reason to tell you where they are or how to work them.

the learning is going to be mostly by the book, or generic advice from people like Pan Man that're experts in their area but don't care about yours. Super useful, but not the same as local expertise.

if you want to learn you just have to keep doing what you've already done, but a lot more. Keep doing it until you find the big strike. The rich haul.

>>19146697
you can usually find local facebook prospecting groups to join to look for advice or general info. If your really looking for a proper education though you will have to go find an old timer who's willing to have you around. Its how I learned, I apprenticed under two elderly prospectors to learn my trade.

>>19146662
>>19146720

In the Netherlands you are allowed to have antiques from before 1870, but your not allowed to have the ammunition or black powder without a permit

>>19146673
Here fren

>>19146828
I could teach you a trick or two but mostly I enjoy watching you work it like the expert you are.

>>19146823
this is accurate, I will train people how to dig and where to look, hell I ll do it for less than that but you bring your own trailer and gear.

>>19146826
This guys very right, many will be very secretive about their own local info and techniques. You can learn a lot from books, courses and youtube videos but physically going out and learning what works and what doesn't is really the best way to go about learning to prospect. Having the old timers watching and laughing at you works too gives you motivation.

>>19146844
>drive to france
>buy shells off durka durkas
>????
>profit

but yes very nice bat boi

>>19146844
why not get a permit? reading on the website there are multiple ways you can qualify if you really want access

honestly if i lived in the EU i would try to get a job as Law Enforcement.

>>19146886
I do not trust governments with this information, the rules are also quite strict.

The ammunition has to be stored in a different safe and the law enforcement are actually allowed to randomly check in your house if everything is safely stored. I think this was also the same for the black powder ammunition.

>>19146828
Good advice, thank you.

>>19147013
you can own crossbows and pellet guns in NL

if you really wanted to just start a firearms repair business and bing bang you got a permit relatively easily.

idk what else to tell you man, if you live in a first world country and want to own a gun you will be able to be, and probably tracked by governments regardless. Unless you live in some state in the US where you can build 80% lower firearms like glocks and ar-15/0s and not have to register.

>>19146665
Time is the most valuable resource known to man and you spend your time shitting up /pmg/ threads. Even if we were "literally retarded" youre absolutely insane for doing what youre doing.

>>19147102
by giving him (you)s you're incentivizing him, there's a reason you're the first reply

>>19146405
Pmg crossbows report in

>>19147216

>>19146697
You're obviously in a good location. So much of gold mining comes down to location.

>>19147102
>>19147180
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST POINT OUT THAT GOLDBUGS BUY INTO THE LABOR THEORY OF VALUE
k commie

>>19147406

>>19147406
value is in the eye of the beholder

1) lumping all people of a certain group into all thinking the same thought just proves your ignorance

2) I personally buy gold and silver bullion because is it a proven store of wealth and has acted pretty reliably for the last ~5000+ years of human civilization, that's good enough reason for me

you're either trolling, coping, or just really dumb. either way you're not going to get many replies from here on out because there is no point talking with you

>>19147455
>1) lumping all people of a certain group into all thinking the same thought just proves your ignorance
By "goldbugs" I'm talking about Schifftards and everyone else who thinks gold has "inherent value because of the effort it takes to mine it".
Regular investors aren't "bugs".

>>19147470
you are right to say "proof of work" is not a sole source of value. To come up with a generally unanimous definition of value, it is such a complicated formula with many different variables it is too hard to make it simple.

However proof of work has inherent value certainly, whether it be in mining and producing fine gold/silver, or digging a trench as you put.

>>19147547
>However proof of work has inherent value certainly
It's an argument you can sort of use in certain cases, but it's not going to stop prices from dropping waaaaay below manufacturing cost if demand isn't there.
In such cases, manufacturers will be more than happy to sell way below manufacturing cost just to cut some losses.

The problem is Schiff says gold has "inherent value because of the effort it takes it mine it", in contrast to fiat in his mind.
And more than one person in these threads agree with him.
Absolutely horrifying.

>>19147600
I agree with this. See, if you have normal, adult conversations people will be more likely to converse and learn from you. Instead of acting like an autistic child memeing, makes whatever you say look really stupid. You seem to be a knowledgeable individual in all actuality and I can now respect your opinions.

>The problem is Schiff says gold has "inherent value because of the effort it takes it mine it", in contrast to fiat in his mind.

did he really say this as the be-all, end-all of his reasoning behind gold? i feel like this is a mis-quote taken out of context that people heard on a JRE episode and parrot it as their own reasoning. Probably just a miscommunication/mis-quoting. Not to say that people who hear that, then believe are themselves ignorant.

I have two of Schiff's books and he's definitely not that stupid.

>>19147691
>did he really say this as the be-all, end-all of his reasoning behind gold?
Yes.

> i feel like this is a mis-quote taken out of context
It is not.
He's directly contrasting gold and fiat, saying mining effort gives gold its "inherent value" while fiat is printed without effort and thus has no "intrinsic value".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cNwaA5sNr8
2:49

"here's a
fifty dollar Federal Reserve Note today
they both have the same purchasing power
who knows what tomorrow holds but I know
that this little gram has real intrinsic
value and it represents all the effort
required to mine it what about this 50
nothing the Fed runs them off the
printing presses doesn't cost much
doesn't matter what number they put on
the bill"

>>19145210
TOPKEK

>>19147691
>definitely not that stupid.


Lmao, he’s a peddler just like his dad who died in jail for tax evasion

>>19147216
I like your air guns especially the wood one

>>19140226
chemical reaction pill me on pvc coin flips. Is it the polyvinyl chloride itself that reacts with silver or plasticizers, like phthalate, added to make the vinyl flexibile that is the concern? Are rigid pvc flips safe?

>>19147941
I don't know the chemistry

I only know I've stored coins in rigid and soft pvc flips for decades and the soft ones leave a green funk on your coins.

personally I don't use either one anymore. I either put my coins in lighthouse quickslabs or let them roll free in a stupid cardboard box depending on numismatic value.

just the thoughts of someone that's been collecting coins for 40 years and dealing coins for money for a couple decades. Take it or leave it. The rigid flips are shit, but they won't ruin your metal as fast.

>>19147941
Alcohol dissolves acrylic. Do not clean your airtites with alcohol.

>>19147941
I think it is the chloride that directly reacts with the silver

Just avoid those pvc flips entirely and if you bought coins that where stored in pvc flips, wash them in acetone 100% and rinse with demineralised water

>>19148009
The acid in paper or cardboard also reacts with silver and causes tarnishing. Watch out for this anon.

Also do not put the acetone anywhere near the airtites or acrylic, it will dissolve it

>>19148121
>The acid in paper or cardboard also reacts with silver and causes tarnishing. Watch out for this anon.
protip: halo toning makes coins MORE valuable, not less

>>19148121
or to put it simply for the retards here-

a tarnished coin is generally worth twice what a clean one is

>>19147939
Tx200hc

>>19148322
Agree, but would pic related be worth more too? (serious question)

>>19148861
With milk spots you can be sure it is a real silver, fake once are always clean.

>>19148322
This is an example of a pretty one

>>19140547
one on the bottom looks more like grannygold

>>19148986
never mind looks more like grannysilver

>>19148877
not always

>>19149073

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc_-icFHwQo

Hello euros. I am awake I’ll take it from here

>>19148986
>>19148997
She's 30 there.

>>19147470
You are fucking braindead lmao. It have nothing to do with schiff, and everything to do with the most basic principles of economy. Even a 5yo kid can get it, all you have to do is follow basic logic by agreeing with these few points :
- gold is an inert natural ressource
- everyone can have access to gold, since it's literally in the ground
- yet gold is very expensive
- because it's rare
- thus, it require a lot of MANPOWER to extract
- thus, you don't pay for a ressource laying on the ground, but for the manpower it took to extract
- if it was easy to pick up and in abundance, you wouldn't pay for gold, you'd simply bend the knee and grab it in your garden
- but since it's rare, you pay for other people to do it for you
- this is the price of gold

got it, brainlet?

>>19149173
Thanks Dan, how come you're up so early?

>>19149123
wtf it's the birb you hear in indiana jones : raiders of the lost ark, when he's in the jungle looking after the mayan gold statue

>>19149206
Sunday morning. I must cook bacon cheesy eggs and hash browns for the family.

>>19145993
Nice cunts

>have 400oz of philly in sealed tubes
How do i refrain myself from opening them all and taking a coins bath ala Unc' Scrooge?
It's a perpetual battle with myself since i purchased them, but i feel like i'm losing my will little by little.
They call me, they want me to rub my sex against them and roll and swim among them.

>>19149238
Based patriarch

>>19149188
>labor theory of value is the most basic principle of economy
Yeah, if you're a Marxist.

If demand for something drops low enough, nothing is going to save it from dropping below the cost of manufacture/mining.

>>19149352
Sure, theorically it could, but it'll never happen.

Hey fellas! So I found me a lady friend and her mother is a coin collector. She's got a half ounce pre-'33 double eagle gold coin, a $2 pre-'33 Indian head coin, and a 1/10ozt south African rand from ~1980. Heading over there today, going to show off my silver coins and goldbacks while I'm there.

>>19149453
Based. Try to convince the mommy to buy some silver too instead of being 100% in gold. She'll thank you very soon.

>>19149366
It happens all the time for all kinds of assets.

The gold price does not increase or decrease because of the effort it takes to mine; on the contrary: mining efforts increase or decrease depending on the gold price.

If mining effort and scarcity determined the price of gold, then the price of gold would be 100% guaranteed to drop over time as more gold is mined and circulated, and mining technology and equipment improves.

>>19149473
Will do! I think I might give her a silver eagle.

>>19149576
That's a very good idea fren, once she hold some ASE she'll get hooked for sure!

>>19140439
1 went ahead and paid 25 for six 2017's, just to fill up a tube. Stings a bit, but it was helping my LCS, who has been a bro these last few years. Online it's a hard pass rn.

>>19149599
>digits
>ID: ENGZ
Good energies. It will be done.

>>19149347
Can't you just molest one of the coins and keep the rest intact?

>>19141868
Smol retail purchases aren't what they care about anon. And once it's physically yours you're good. I'd worry more about loudmouth neighbors so obviously don't be flashy

>>19142848
I respect that you at least have a balanced breakfast. What are your three face crypts rn?

Rate my latest purchase

>>19143000
Nice stacklet. Those mint coin sets aren't worth it tho get more generic rounds for a healthy base

With the Queens Beasts series already copping sick premiums, I'll get some of these beauties. Probably initially sold totally overpriced but nevertheless a good idea in the long run, no?

>>19150169
>99.9% silver
Hahahahahahahahah

>>19150378
I can guarantee you it is :)

>>19147216
do suppressors do anything on an airgun?

You're buying gold that can fit in your smugglers wallets right anon?

>>19149453
A half ounce would just be an eagle ($10). Double eagle is a full ounce ($20).

>>19150352
I stay away from most of these types of coins unless you can get them close to spot. The one exception I make is for Perth Lunar series as they seem to have a big following and are very nice coins.

>>19150549
A .177 pellet at 900fps makes a crack that would scare off rabbits. With a small silencer you can hit one at 40 yards and then hit the one that was right next to it.

>>19150902
Nice. I go wabbit hunting sometimes with my SxS but I dont get much since the public land here is completely overhunted and I see more people than animals

This is my favorite silver piece

>>19150964
It's hard to get good hunting land. I am fortunate that I know a few old millionaires with 2000 acre private land between them

/PMG/ is dead

>>19152066
Silver is going to run to $25. Not dead

>>19152095
I hope not for a couple years.

>>19140226
>>19140226

Based bar of Christ cleansing the temple
and a bat boy....What a legend

>>19152105
Sorry but fuck you bruh. We waited long enough and you had years to stack for cheap.
Now it's time to start the moon mission.

>>19152105
They boiled the frog too quick in this case, were gonna see >20 within a month or two

>>19140439
My dealer has eagles for $20.50

>>19152209
Sorry but fuck you. I stand by my statement. My scenario is most likely to happen

>>19152226
Yeah right, these jews still have billions of dollars of paper contracts to dump right on your head, they would suppress the price of silver long enough to literally buy out all the physical supply if they could, and they will come damn close.

>>19141673
Way to make yourself a target retard

>>19152266
You could be right but I doubt it. Speculators are dumb but theyre not THAT dumb.

>>19145562
How is it legal to sell fake eagles? Its that considered counterfeiting because they are issues by the US mint as legal tender?

>>19152332
If they can suppress the price long enough during a recession or depression then they will be able to buy a lot of cheap physical silver, it's the war of attrition with these faggots

What's going to happen Monday? I say 4-5% Spike upwards for silver and gold.

>>19151568
>tfw cut open the plastic on my 10oz bars
rookie mistake

how to open capsule without breaking

>>19152905
Why would you want to?

>>19152353
Its not legal, im sure theres somewhere you can make a report if you see it. From what I understand counterfeiting agents at the fbi/ss are actually diligent and good at their job.

>>19152802
unless they're some premo silver, theres no issue anon. Fondle away

>>19152968
i have my reasons

>>19149248
Where can I buy these in the US?

>>19152353
however i forgot to mention little known fact bullion coins are not actually legal tender. The Treasury has issued guidance that spending bullion at its face value amounts to money laundering. Whether that would hold up in court who knows.

>>19152905
slowy work the edges of the capsule up with your nails and start wedging and then start fondeling

>>19152105
You had 6 years. The ratio is collapsing now as gold is in full bull mode. 25 is easy within weeks.

>>19153223
>start wedging and then start fondeling

>>19152105
you had your chance

>>19153092
I really don't know, I'm not American.
This site lets you browse by region.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48358.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=simplifie&p=1&l=netherlands&r=&e=austrian-netherlands&d=&ru=&i=&ca=3&no=&se=&v=&m=&a=&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&cat=y&ct=coin

My local coin dealer ships internationally but I dont know of you want to do that.

This one is in English
https://www.thesilvermountain.nl/en/

Found googling "buy dutch silver"
Can't really help you further

>>19145993

>>19152905
Sharp knife, pry the seam gently.
>>19151336
Aesthetic pours/bars are the best.
>>19150549
2oz plat 1oz gold and a fuckin hand cannon. Respek.
>>19149453
Wholesomeasfuck/10

>>19153013
Exactly, poured bars are fondleproof. Another advantage.

>>19153601
Damn, Thanks. I like those coins too bad we can't get them here.

>>19153013
>>19153753
Cool. I was testing the ice cube meme

>>19154015
They are nice but the advantage of american eagles, besides being affordable and pretty, is they are globally recognized and the weight and grade is on them. Dutch coins doesn't have that. So they are almost exclusively relevant for local market. That said, there is a lot of pre euro silver so I can stack my own countries PM's for very good prices. Which is more fun to me than just importing foreign currency.

>>19153753
Why are they fondle proof while the other bars are not

>>19154564
It’s just how it is.

SUMMON PAN MAN. What is your opinion on the discovery channel show “gold rush”?

>>19143000

Well boys, once my next order from jm comes in I'll have 4 oz of gold and close to 200 oz of silver. I cant really justify buying more gold but i would like to get my silver stack to at least 500 oz. If things stay stable for the next few months i will probably pick up 100 oz per month, but my feeling is that the time is upon us where we will start to see severe breakdowns in the market.

Many of you are waiting for the inevitable paper crash, my thought is that in this case of all cases, time in the market will be much wiser than timing the market. Im getting quality, tested, goverment rounds as close to spot as possible. When the music stops i feel like the pickings will be... shall we say... slim.

And i do understand that silver is far more undervalued than gold at the moment, but why should i ignore gold completely? Especially when it is likely to be the primary metal in any new monetary paradigm after we finally print the dollar into oblivion to pay off our debts. This is not just another market fluctuation.

>>19154388
I have a bunch of ASEs, I just like to look of those crown bois and want them in my collection. Guess it's back to Brittanias and ASEs

Dont forget, dime pieces for ten cents

>want to buy gold
>its 1800 an ounce

>>19155073
>why should i ignore gold completely?
You shouldn't. Dumbfuck silverbugs have been predicting silver will moon for decades upon decades. Could be decades from now until it actually happens

>>19155344
make mother daughter version for that copypasta

>>19155390
>try to buy fractions
>Premium out the ass
>uhh 1/2 oz for $1000!
>1/10 oz for $300!
Oof

>>19155412
Great call anon. I totally forgot about their questionably underage daughters

>>19155073
Sounds like a legit stack/strategy. It's too hard to say what is going to happen with stocks and PMs and crypto. Personally I don't think it's possible for the economy to not show serious cracks going forward. And when people stop hearing about the economic strain in the news and actually start feeling it in their purchasing power or job prospects - then reality will hit. I can't imagine most crypto/stocks doing well as an outcome of this. Sure there's plenty of money to be made in stocks and crypto if you've got the money to risk but I personally don't. I'd rather throw my money at PMs instead of gambling. Just go with whatever ratio you want, everyone will tell you something different but there's no way to know who is right.

Is it worth buying damaged gold bars from JMB? They have 1oz bars listed as damaged with an example pic of an RCM bar in a ripped and dirty assay

>>19155445
Keep dropping those redpills in the produce section of Trader Joes, Anon. Our time shall come

>>19155566
If you don't mind potentially really dinged up/scratched bars then sure.

>>19146105
Silver is silver, and these niggers talking about eagles selling faster are talking about dollars.

In a collapse, silver is silver. Gold is gold. As long as you don't buy fake shit, it won't matter.

Is Silver a meme? Did I buy the wrong metal?

>stock market crashes
>economy is in the toilet
>gold goes up as it is supposed to
>silver goes down or at best stays flat

what the fuck

>>19156154
I highly highly doubt there will be a collapse or reset and that if there was, we would more likely adopt some crypto/digital currency than go back to a gold standard. China is on its way to abandoning their shit for CCP backed digital currency soon.

>>19156201
Silver is going to JUST biz worse than any altcoin
It's amazing to see the amount of panic buying into this upcoming commodities crash
Remember: gold, platinum and palladium to make it

>>19146105
bars are as cheap and close to spot price as you can literally get.

Also it is as far removed from subjective speculative value when selling as you can get.

>sell bar
>bar weighs 10 oz
>here is your money, sir. $ x 10 = payout

vs

>sell coins
>they get valued on their individual years
>if they're tarnished
>if they have scratches
>what design on them
Not worth the headache

>>19156218
You're highly, highly trusting of things as they are.

America is going to collapse, and the jew banking system will collapse with it. China and Russia will become the world powers following that, and both of them are heavily invested in metals.

Digital currency is jewish and will only come about during a world government near the time of Christ's return. The trend is towards nationalism, not globalism. Globalism is on its death throes until further notice. Even the EU is poised to collapse.

>>19155181
That's our national symbol used on many pre euro currency. It dates back 1000 years. I'm trying to pinpoint the exact origin of this specific design but it's hard. Apparently it was first used during crusades and then adopted by dukeship Nassau, who became influential in Dutch history for the past 500 years. It was also used as a national flag during the Batavian Republic, a revolutionary time where patriots used this symbol to do away with authoritarian aristocrats. Sort of like the Gadsden flag. The basis of our current constitution was founded by them, and was eventually adopted by our first king Willem van Oranje-Nassau when the French retreated, which is when our modern currency was introduced, with that lion on one side and the monarch on the other side. Which, coincidentally, is the family shield of the Nassau bloodline. It's funny because everyone was at war at the time and we sort of founded our own constitution without bloodshed and kept our sovereignty when the Russians defeated the French. It lasted when we became part of the Eurozone, and it's time for another revolution.

>>19156718
Retard

>>19156975
I like your compelling refutations.

>>19149238
based

>>19149347
philharmonics?

>>19149453
dump the girl, fuck the mummy for milkies

>>19156218
>>19156566
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-syracuse-moment-approaches.html
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/09/repatriation-is-off-table.html
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/02/no-southerners-allowed.html
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/12/sexual-immorality-and-decline-of-west.html
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/10/aquinas-on-usury.html
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-default-cycle-begins.html
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/05/mailvox-debt-deflation-confirmed.html
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-end-of-eu-is-in-sight.html


That looks like a lot to read, but it's not really. Read all of that and put it into a grand picture. Britain has already left the EU. Germany, its chief country, is going to leave it. America is collapsing demographically, economically, and ideologically.

There will be no central authority to oversee a digital currency as there will be smaller nation-states that prefer national forms of currency, most easily used in the form of tangible wealth, such as gold or silver. The jew banking system has destroyed itself, and there is no global government to fall into now. That's later, and nobody can say how much later, but it's not now.

Precious metals are the past and the future for some time to come, and especially the near future.

>>19141903
Thanks anon. Gonna teach my kids the importance of PMs and Pogs when they reach the right ages.

>>19156303
This, never ever had an issue selling bars. Ever.

Tried selling some brittanias on eBay and christ, got return requests for half of them due to the odd tiny milk spot or some scratch someone found with their loupe. Never again, poured bars and frosted coins (silver krugs) only.

>>19157840
>Tried selling some brittanias on eBay
>eBay
Why? Whats to stop someone from just saying its fake and getting their money back and returning an empty box or an actual fake one they bought from a chink for $5

>>19158127
cash or zelle only, no (((paypal))) or ((mastercard))

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