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>>19146435
I lived on a sailboat for a few years. It was awesome. I’m just north of you. Get in touch, I’ll sail around puget sound a bit with you and teach you how to sail.

Throw.away.18577@protonmail.com

>>19146435
Can I come

California scares me right now.

>>19146435
I will only get on your boat if you're a Kleros holder.

Kys you stupid faggot. Oh wait the trip will do it for you, good riddance. Didn't you get enough attention from the previous thread?

>>19146754
Samefagging again

>>19146754
I am in California. Driving to Washington to buy a boat is not big deal but odds are I will get something in CA.

Will keep you in mind if i end up driving up to buy a boat though thanks.

>>19146865
Yes anon I will probably make a discord at some point. If you already have a passport though I would recommend just getting on a plane. We could all share costs so it would be cheap AF just stressful and harsh for a few months.

Any mental disorders we should be aware of OP?

>>19146991

>>19147072
None anon

have held a stable job for 4 years & secure living situation.

I think most people who post of 4chan would seem less crazy in person. I am literally just some wage cuck who does not want to stick around for this economic disaster unfolding. Being unable to get a passport was just the final straw.

Reeeeeeeeeee my freedom and what not.

>>19146435
OP if you can get some satellite internet going, then post updates here on biz on your journey.

>>19147160
you are never gonna make it

>>19146435
I still don't get the point of this other than for personal enjoyment, it sounds kinda impulsive and useless. Just wait until you can get a passport and take the plane if your goal is to get somewhere.

>>19147594
I mean impulsive and useless if your primary goal is something else - if you're just doing it for the experience and the enjoyment then good on ya - although it'll be dangerous to take such a small boat across the pacific.

>>19147594
Planes are going to be about 3x more expensive after corona.
OP is probably overreacting, but it does sound like a epic journey. No doubt filled with dangers, and challenging boat problems, but also with rewards for the well prepared, mentally and equipment wise.

>>19146435
What is your goal?

>>19147594
You have no idea how bad this is going to be anon. Special interest monopolies are going to dominate travel rights soonish. Blockchain is not just a meme & Ethereum will be a very big deal in a few years.

You are unlikely to ever be allowed to get on a plane again without a Blockchain based vaccine certificate. ktdi.org for example has the same Ethereum Enterprise alliance Director as ID2020.

Wish I was just crazy but unfortunately my proximity to Blockchain stuff and big corporations means I know more then I should. Gates has this in the bag frens, get out while you can.

>>19148411
No real goal other then gtfo before Amerimuts chip out over mandatory testing and vaccines. The USA is not giving anyone passports right now anon so this seems like the only legit way to get to the country I want to go. I could get entry approval legally at the port of entry if I made it there.

>>19146435
OP if you can get another passport, do it, renounce the shite tier US one.
t. 3 passports & turned down the US one.
Personally I'm going to get another 2 passports BVI & Undecided.

>You are unlikely to ever be allowed to get on a plane again without a Blockchain based vaccine certificate.
Kek, anon in my country it will take 2 years just to test everyone once. No vaccine is coming, probably. IF something like that happened, it would be country specific to obtain a visa for entry. The US being the draconian cunts they are would do it first, maybe china. I never want to go to the states again anyways.
Also, this is BS i.e never going to happen (most likely).

When I lived in the states, first I got a visa, lived there for 6-7 years, got a green card. ffs they made me TONS on vaccinations, even thought I'd already lived there for 7 fuckin years to get this green card.

>>19148497
Anon, you don't need a passport to get into mexico (probably canada) some of my friends didn't have passports. Once you are free you can go to the embassy.

>>19148497
which port?

>>19148585
>Anon, you don't need a passport to get into mexico

Mexico seems like the wrong kind of lawless to me. is it possible to get a passport down there? how money would it take.

>>19148684
>Mexico seems like the wrong kind of lawless to me.
It was just a suggestion, Check out what you need for the Canada border. Canada & the UK last I checked where the easiest countries in the world to enter/exit.
https://wilhelmsen.com/ships-agency/campaigns/coronavirus/coronavirus-map/
>is it possible to get a passport down there?
Yes anon its called an embassy, fuck me you mutts are dumb AF. you are about to travel & you don't know what an embassy is! WOW
>how money would it take.
I don't know how much the mutts charge, look it up. probably a couple hundy next day, 500 for within an hour. Not expensive, considering its really the only document that matters...& you don't even have 1.

https://www.frommers.com/tips/entry-requirements-customs/can-i-use-a-driver-license-to-drive-into-mexico-or-canada
Here you go dumbass, google is amazing

What part of California OP? I’m in the north Bay Area.

If I was trying to sail across the pacific, I’d be looking for the biggest boat I could afford. If you pooled resources with some other anons and bought some old commercial fishing boat or something you’d have a much better chance of making it across alive. Fuck sailing the pacific alone in a little sailboat. That’s just asking for trouble

Spend all that money just to leave the US, no good unless absolutely no alternative. You need a bunker and supplies after you arrive on land anyway. That should be the focus.

Bunker + electromag shielding will eat most of your capital. Water, food, medicine and knowledge is cheap.

>>19148776
This, a fishing boat meant for rough seas and some friends. Do it before September.

>>19146435
>plus the seller seems based

You can buy sailboats with btc & bch in a few brokers like this one

https://www.denisonyachtsales.com/

Also try to search a boat with an hydrovane , best wind vane.

>>19146971
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LEAVE YOU MUST PAY THE TAXERINOSSSSSSS

>>19148901
Mutts can't escape taxes unless they renounce. The Burgers can/will empty your bank account around the world.

A friend of friend who was born in Burgerland but never lived there. Made a small amount of money in '17 (like 50K). The fuckin IRS raided his account, took it. He'd never filed in the states as he didn't even know he had to. If you think this is BS you're a brainwashed burger btw.

Burgers can't have freedom till they renounce.

>>19148773
Fuck me so I can literally just drive to mexico with only my drivers license then get a Passport at the USA embassy in Mexico?

Why wont they just give us Passports in the USA if we can just loophole it like that. Makes sense though anon. Highest IQ post so far award.

>>19148776
>>19148845
>>19148864

Northern California

Cheapest sailboats seem to be in Washington and Bay area. I might pool some cash with a couple 4chan frens if I cannot figure out any other options. A bunker seems like a good idea but i would rather live life somewhere less tarded.

Something like this seems cheap enough
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/d/tacoma-newport-27-cc-capital-yachts/7125396329.html

will check out https://www.denisonyachtsales.com/ too

>>19148961
I literally put all my money into crypto as soon as I get a paycheck or anything anon. I never plan to cash out EVER.

>>19148973
>Fuck me so I can literally just drive to mexico with only my drivers license then get a Passport at the USA embassy in Mexico?
yes dumbass, your welcome btw
>Why wont they just give us Passports in the USA if we can just loophole it like that
If you are traveling it's the only document that matters. If you lose it they must be able to replace it while in that foreign country how else can you either proceed with your journey or return your shithole country.

Also Anon, mexico is not THAT bad. I'm going in September if everything pans out.

Read this post also >>19148961

>>19149006
Yea Anon, You live in one of the least free countries in the world.
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/revocation-or-denial-of-passport-in-case-of-certain-unpaid-taxes
Pretty sure your capital gains tax is 20%...So you only need to sell 250k & never pay the tax, you'll NEVER get a passport again, anywhere. You'll be deported back to burgerland so you can pay those taxes.
Even countries that sell passports don't want you if you have tax liabilities in the previous country (((ESPECIALLY BURGERLAND))). You *MIGHT* be able to get one through permanent residence somewhere.

>>19149028
> If you are traveling it's the only document that matters. If you lose it they must be able to replace it while in that foreign country how else can you either proceed with your journey or return your shithole country.

Makes sense I am just REEEEEE'ing so hard over all this because you cannot get a passport through the normal channels right now.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/ea/passport-covid-19.html

When the government tells burgers they cannot do something they chimp out. Seriously am about to get on a tiny sailboat and probably die because they tell me I am not allow to leave.

>>19147160
Fren. I’m a burger in Southeast Asia. If you think America is authoritarian, you’re not gonna enjoy any of the countries in this region. Travel bans. Beach closures. Booze bans. Mandatory masks at all times. Mandatory temperature checks entering all stores. All hotels, bars, restaurants closed. America is comfy compared to Asia rn.

>>19149063
> capital gains tax
Seriously I have bags of Ethereum and the Government is never getting any of it. Not after what they did to bros Aaron Swartz & Virgil Griffith. An-Cap is the way frens

>>19149072
>When the government tells burgers they cannot do something they chimp out.
Nah, you follow like a good goy hence why your prison system is the way it is. You'll never use the 2nd amendment for which it was intended.

>Seriously am about to get on a tiny sailboat and probably die
Anon, I know. Its a fuckin horrible idea.
I've sailed in the past, first was one of these dingy types that the mast hits your head (shit).
2nd was ~120ft old wooden pirate ship, we sailed to catalina island in your state. That was fuckin great week...but we have like 26 ppl. still difficult.

I'm feeding your dream cause thats what it is, a dream. You'll NEVER do this.

>>19149127
Anon, go get a second passport, renounce. What will happen once your passport expires? You'll be deported back & arrested for 1 not filing (which in itself is a crime) & 2 tax evasion, you'll end up in some ass rapeing prison.

The gov either know already or will figure it out who those coins belong to.

fyi 100k for a new passport minimum

>>19149103
Hopefully you can leave soon. Stay away from bug countries like PH, Singapore, China, Thai, and other muslim shitholes.

VOO or VTI? Should I buy bonds and international stocks as well?

>>19149180
> You'll never use the 2nd amendment for which it was intended.

I wish you were wrong. America is dead

> 100k for a new passport minimum

https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-where-you-can-buy-citizenship-residency-or-passport-2018-9#22-latvia-residency-from-64600-58318-or-74973-2

seems legit.

>>19149199
Philippines did pretty well for the first An-Cap Crypto lord who created BTC anon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Le_Roux

>>19149276
>America is dead
I know, I left in '06 when it was obvious a crash was coming. Burgerland is great during economic highs & awful during lows, equilibrium must be sought. Hence why you should get out ASAP. Huge tax increases are coming.

>https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-where-you-can-buy-citizenship-residency-or-passport-2018-9#22-latvia-residency-from-64600-58318-or-74973-2
Yea, don't cheap out Anon, you need a new one ASAP. for 100k ppl get them in months
Also to renounce you'll have to pay an exit tax. You want to do this while still being poor preferably.

If you're not some poorfag & serious about this shit
Check out this guys channel
https://www.youtube.com/user/nomadcapitalist
I'm going to see him in September.

>>19149276
Paul_Le_Roux
kek

>>19149394
>Paul_Le_Roux
>kek

let me guess you think Craig Wright invented BTC

> Also to renounce you'll have to pay an exit tax. You want to do this while still being poor preferably.

Can they force me to sell some of my Ethereum to pay them? Technically i am poor AF on paper & all income taxes are up to date.

>>19149496
>>19149496
>let me guess you think Craig Wright invented BTC
OF COURSE not
>Can they force me to sell some of my Ethereum to pay them?
They'll throw you in jail for contempt. it's already been done in the past. As i said, your prison/justice system is not looking out for your best interest.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/irish-drug-dealer-clifton-collins-l46m-bitcoin-codes-hid-fishing-rod-case
You don't live in a free country, that would let you get away with such things.
>Technically i am poor AF on paper & all income taxes are up to date.
Anon sadly the best way to be ancap is to follow the BS laws RN. Figure your way out, the burgers act as world police.

FATCA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Account_Tax_Compliance_Act

& the reason why I would never do business with burgers.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/31/515.329
There's more but that says enough

Hilariously anon, burgerland is actually a tax haven to anyone not a citizen/resident. FATCA only works one way, burgers don't share their info (or atleast have to).

>>19149650
Just want to add that its through FATCA this happened >>19148961

>>19149650

> Person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States

>partnership, association, or other organization, wherever organized or doing business that is owned or controlled by persons specified in paragraphs (a) or (c) of this section.

So basically if i do business with a American and i am not an American the world police can claim jurisdiction over me.

>>19149650
shit at least 4chan is good for something

I was literally going to get on a sailboat just to get to PH. Going to mexico and getting a passport through a loophole so I can just buy a plane ticket is clearly a more sane plan.

Thx anon

>>19149764
yep, desu there's other laws, can't be asked RN to get links, examples are just using .com/.net or even the USD.
Take that Paul Roux case, he is not a burger, but in a burger prison. The US 'had an interest in the matter' thats all it takes in reality. sure his was attempted murder of feds if i recall.

I always thought it was funny to see the flag waving burgers tell me how they 'live in the freest country in the world'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH61hFsma24

The brainwashing runs so deep that your peers keep repeating something to convince others & themselves. Its amazing to behold as someone that was uninitiated.

>>19149912
>shit at least 4chan is good for something
Thanks anon, the amount of times i've been called a retard by newfags...
>I was literally going to get on a sailboat just to get to PH.
I provided the link to places you can dock here >>19148773 That is if you do want to proceed & KYS
>Going to mexico and getting a passport through a loophole so I can just buy a plane ticket is clearly a more sane plan.
yea, check out the YT, promise good stuff >>19149394
I hope it will get you to think more globally, there's a whole world out there.

When this COVID shit hit, I wondered if could leave if necessary. Having multiple passports does allow me to get the fuck out RN if I really needed to, even right now.

>>19150087
>Take that Paul Roux case, he is not a burger, but in a burger prison. The US 'had an interest in the matter' thats all it takes in reality. sure his was attempted murder of feds if i recall.

He was a Based bond villain for sure. I went to high school with guys who say they were guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan and the CIA flies the heroin in. Literally 0 respect for the government telling someone they cannot sell drugs even if i think it is bad for society.

> When this COVID shit hit, I wondered if could leave if necessary. Having multiple passports does allow me to get the fuck out RN if I really needed to, even right now.

Bill Gates does seem intent on pushing his nonsense on everyone. If you want to make some $$$$ off of this long Moderna https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-receives-fda-fast-track-designation-mrna-vaccine-mrna

That is assuming you think they will be able to mandate the vaccine globally. 100% this vaccine is coming from Moderna. I follow Gates foundation money as a trading strategy.

>>19150927
> I follow Gates foundation money as a trading strategy.

Future billionaire right here

>>19150927
>Literally 0 respect for the government telling someone
They don't like competition, it goes against their communist ideals
>Moderna
Thanks will take a look, I don't know fuck all about medical shit.
>100% this vaccine is coming from Moderna.
That is assuming a vaccine can be made

I'm waiting for the real crash & I going to buy gold royalty companies & when the recovery stars schlumberger + some of the ones that are pumping RN as the market obviously likes these. They generally have low leverage & cash.

I'd rather be late than early

>>19151151
> That is assuming a vaccine can be made
In 'Merica Vaccines do not even have to work. You would never know because if it fucks you up you cannot sue them in a actual court. They lobbied themselves into legal immunity.

>>19151347
Yea
>>19148585
>When I lived in the states, first I got a visa, lived there for 6-7 years, then got a green card. ffs they made me have TONS on vaccinations, even thought I'd already lived there for 7 fuckin years before getting this green card.

Its fuckin crazy, i know

Is this a schizo thread or am i the one going schizo?

>>19151481
OP isn't gong anymore, I talked him out of it.