/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19121870
I want a gold kit-kat bar, thats pretty cool desu

My PM folio is up 10% over last 3 months. How yall doing?

Metals surged today. I'm up over $5k on my PM positions in one day. Not bad frens.

>>19121963
Same fren I got SLV for 12 bucks a little while ago and I made about 1500

Last week my dads excuse not to buy gold was "it never goes up" now its "its too high now" lol

>>19122001
Sorry anon your dad is not gonna make it

>>19121870
Okay boomer

just bought 40oz of philharmonics for $22/oz, how'd I do?

>>19122001
Try to get him into buying Utah Goldbacks. Most of the major PM sites have them now. If he won't buy any for himself maybe get a few for him and some junk silver as a gift in case hyperinflation hits hard.

>>19122001
Your dad sounds fuckin gay lmao

>>19122388
baaaad!

>>19122388
you did just fine anon

>>19122388
That's not too bad anon.

>>19122388
i mean the worst possible scenario would be you not having any bags at all
>>19122001
like this anons dad

How do you guys store your silver besides a fucking shoe box?
I don't want to spend money on a fucking safe when l could be buying more silver.

>>19122815
>>19122842
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>>19122896
by the way this is calculating shipping/taxes everything cost-wise
>>19122896
extrapolate, don't quite understand what you mean worst possible scenario

>>19123113
Dig a hole at night

Anyone here buy PMG? What's the deal with rhodium?

>>19123339
a lot of people in other PMG threads say that it is hard to sell

Silver too

>>19123443
Do you think silver is a meme

are helvetias good value? any anons have any? that anon last thread got me thinking

who /newsilverchad/ here

>>19123555
i think the 2020 kugerrands are pretty cool, with the double 20 20.

>>19121870
What do you guys think are the odds that the government confiscates PMs? If shtf people will be very fucking desperate, and if you bought them online there's a clear record of purchase.

>>19121921
Almost 15% dude how bout that. I have 10x slv to GLD and if the market values turn equal I'm going all GLD.

>>19123466
no, not as good as gold, but not a meme at all

>>19123636
thats what guns are for anon

>>19123113
just buy a safe dude. no thief is going to lug a 50 pound safe out of your house/apartment and then try to figure out how to open it. even if you have house/rental insurance i'm guessing it's a pain in the ass to get money for precious metals if they're stolen.

i've had an apartment broken into before and shit stolen. it sucks even if you're covered.

>>19123636
sorry officer i sold those for cash and lost all of it feeding my gambling addiction at the indian casino

$NAK

thank me later

>>19124056
okay, come clean how much did you just buy

>>19123720
You will lose against government force

>>19123943
You will lose against government courts

>>19123113
anon I like the cheap method of, I already have gun and ammo cabinets, so I just stick my silver in those.
if 2 or 3 huge guys with a dolly and a pickup come to rob you, theres not much to stop them...
the idea is to make it difficult enough that the police would be able to respond before criminals could find your valuables and remove them.

>>19123636
Just say you pawned them

>>19123636
the govt won't. you have to understand in the US they bought everyones metals so they could print money since it was backed by gold. everyone who turned in gold got paid spot for it.
we don't have a gold backed system, so it'll never happen

>>19124289
You didn't bolt your safe to the floor?

>>19124288
wrong
you're not thinking like a silverchad

>>19123943
I'm sick, I need help.

>>19123832
if you report your valuables beforehand to the insurance company so they can charge you more, then its not much of a issue to get reimbursed...

>>19124330
cabinets, its like a 1/4 inch of steel. but yes of course anon. but a 250lb guy with a 20lb crow bar will make quick work of it

>>19124288
why, what different reality are you in where i could get prosecuted for not forfeiting something not in my possession?

if anything i would get fined for sale without taxes/reciept

>>19124379
please extrapolate, are you larping or did you accidentally reply to moi

I have ordered 150 ounces of silver and 1oz of gold in the last two weeks. I think I have a problem.

>>19121870
Absolutely based. I live my tiny Pamps
>>19123113
Half is in my bugout bag, the other half is in a plastic drawer in my closet. I live in an apartment complex so a break in is unlikely, but my 5 firearms and 4 ammo cans will probably draw more attention

>>19124622
breath anon, step back.
you'll know you have a problem when you start buying on credit, its over priced and god help you if you have to pay interest on it.

>>19124690
*love
Jfc

>>19124728
Even though it's expensive, gold has gone up in value by $1500 an ounce in less than 20 years so it's hard not to think of it as a good investment long term. I am becoming my grandfather (who happens to be rich now after years of hoarding gold and silver due to a depression era upbringing.

Good news is I am paying cash/check currently because it's cheaper that way and my wife kinda talked me into the gold bar. I got the silver because I liked having more to hold for the money.

>>19124329
The government didn't buy the people's gold liar, they stole it against the people's will, then gave the people worthless paper for their valuable gold.

"Buying" does not involve guns, force and the threat of death, that's called "theft."

$500 left, you PMG BVLLS decide for me. Currently already have 200 ounces of silver. 160 ASE and four 10 ounce bars.

>>19121870
based, about to get my first bar

>>19124935
aren't combibars overpriced? do they hold their value? i heard people can only get melt value for them when they try to sell

>>19124935
Kookaburras

What's the cheapest silver and where can I get it?

>>19124859
but anon, ask any old timer. lots of people still horded gold. but the govt only went after the big fish.
it was pretty much the honor system for normies

>>19125050
findbullionprices.com/

Platinum's spot jumped like 6% today. What's driving that? If its mostly an industrial metal used in catalytics, who is open and expanding enough to drive up the spot right now?

When does surpass gold like it did 10 years back?

>>19125050
Usually either junk silver, or bars on sale for spot price.

>>19125007
yeah its like 100 more than a regular 50g bar but I like that I can break it down besides 100 isnt a big deal

>>19125007
why would you buy one of those sheets if you had any intention of selling it. obviously its meant to be used as currency or when gold becomes so valuable even that tiny amount is hundreds of dollars

I need a bigger box. Wat do?

>>19123113
Multiple caches. Across separate properties, if possible.

>>19125205
well anon, I think its time you graduate from serf to pleb.
but some empty tubes, fill them then only buy enough to come in the mint tubes in the future.
also I like wooden boxes. maybe a tiny pirate chest...

>>19125205
https://smile.amazon.com/Pirates-Treasure-Chest-Trinket-Jewelry/dp/B003E2GBE0/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=pirate+chest&qid=1589602654&sr=8-5

>>19125205
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>>19125360
like i was saying last thread about what that anon had, i really want a fine silver/sterling container to hold all my loose valcambi 1g bars, maybe a goblet for pirate aesthetic

Rate my meme stack

>>19123636
You realize that when FDR (shit be upon him) put out his confiscation E.O. nobody turned anything in? Why do you think so much pre-33 gold is still around? He targeted a couple of gold whales, who didn't believe that the gov would have the balls do seize it.

That was in 1933, when people still kinda had a little faith in their government. Nobody with a brain has any faith in them now. They can't even get people to stay indoors, or wear masks. Any confiscation order is going to be defied, likely with several states/counties pulling 'sanctuary' status for gold/silver holdings and daring the feds to start shit.

>>19125483
>jesus forcing the merchants out
>mercury dimes to get 1 double blowjob/dime
>bat boi
Patrician/10, where'd you get the mercs from and how much?

>>19125462
that does sound classy anon. I wouldn't mind having a container for my bat boi's but I hide all my silver away in a few spots, so getting one box would mean buying a safe to store it in lol

>>19125360
Maximum tackiness

>>19125519
I bought it for $16/oz off of ebay back during the crash/run from coinexchange before dealers implemented massive premiums since they had the fastest shipping times. My biggest regret is not buying more.

>>19125542
this one is 13 bucks lol

>>19121921
29% for me

>>19123636
Buy your PMs with cash

>>19125050
Private dealer or an LCS with no taxes, buy constitutional, use coinflation calculator to make sure you aren’t getting ripped off.

What are your thoughts on platinums future?

>>19123636
Buy with cash from local shop. It's good to be on a first name basis with a local coin shop for various reasons. Never buy/sell over $9999 in a single transaction.

>>19125735
>buy constitutional

Not now its considered "bartering boogaloo" silver and has a bigger premium than generic 1oz rounds

>>19125766
Might be a while before Pt bounces back. If cars aren't selling than platinum isn't being used.

>>19125811
I would say stay below 9k, because if anything looks shady the business/banks are supposed to report it anyways.
most small ones don't like reporting more then they have to though. so 50/50 on whether they actually would

>>19125831
I was under the impression that plat is seeing more and more use in other applications, not just cars. But chemical reactions and factories.

I'm quitting cigs again to buy more gold/silver. Wish me luck lads, I made it about a month, 1 month ago. Ready to give these fuckin things up

>>19125876
I agree. I stay far away from the limit. I don't mind making a few visits over the course of a few weeks.

>>19125909
Plat is very cheap relative to Gold and also relative to Palladium. It has a very good future, but I don't like owning it physically because it's thinly traded and the buy/sell spread means you get screwed on premiums on both sides usually. You can get exposure via a big miner like Sibanye Stillwater (which I own) or a physical trust (Sprott has a plat/pall one).

>>19122388
decent price
good on ya for buying phils

>>19125876
>>19125965
>>19125811
How about buying from r/pmsfosale using friends and family to dodge fees

>>19126002
I can even find them

>>19123832
a few years back there was an incident around here where some boomer dingbat was showing off his stack to some youths that he barely knew.
They came back a couple days later and murdered the whole family, stole the safe and then abandoned the safe in the woods because they couldn't open it.
Retardation is really an unlimited resource.

>>19126011
Did you not see that anon a few threads ago? Bought fake ASE on there

>>19125909
It is, most people only know of Pt and Pd as metals in catalytic convertors, but even in that application, a lot of the catalyst gets recycled into new convertors.

Petrochemical refineries burn through it, as do large scale manufacturing of nitric acid and benzene, which are critical precursors. Its also used in high temperature components, thermocouples, high temperature electrical contacts, etc... Also gets used in large scale NOX remediation for powerplants and those need to be replaced as they foul.

Another big sink for platinum is in medical implants. All the noble metals are pretty inert, but platinum alloys are really good at not being rejected by a human body.

>>19126011
I would never use it. The risk of fakes or scams is not worth it. Most dedicated coin shops are competitive enough - visit a few and find one you like. Plus they need business to stay open and having a nearby shop you can easily drive over to when you want to sell it invaluable. They will also share a lot of valuable information with you if you chat with them.

>>19126064
Well ideally you would buy from a user with a high buy and sell history not some new guy but yeah that is a fear of mine. Link? I want to read the hilarious replies and the complaints on reddit

>>19126068
Hmm, I may still get an ounce. Focusing on gold though since I went too hard on silver, but thats a lot about platinum I didnt know. Its interesting how the human body doesnt reject platinum, medical shit is weird and I dont understand it but its very neat.

>>19125483
Damn I should have ordered that bar when it was $180

>>19126085
It was like 3 or 4 /pmg/ ago. Check the archive

>>19124935
cap and ray pesos

>>19126189
I dont know what that is

>>19126118
I have an oz in the mail. Maybe it takes a million years to climb back up, but i'm not going to be mad to have some. Can always sell it and trade of gold.

I knew a guy that had a bank bag full of hip replacements made out of platinum alloy he got from an orthopedic office that was closing. Gave some guy 100 bucks for them, and he took the deal. Those are like 35% Pt by mass, and he about 4-5 pounds of them.

>>19126232
old mexican coin
it's the most aesthetic one they ever made apart from the casa de moneda onza coins
but never mind anyway because I just realized they are hard to come by

how will the new generation of 20 year old PMps rule society when the fiat monetary system collapses?

>>19126312
From the shadows, duh.

>>19126131
Anyone have any luck with Golden State Mint? If they say it'll ship by June 13th, is that for real?

Are the 1 Ducat Netherlands Gold Coins worth it? The Austrian ones sold out on JMB. These are basically the same price but while the other one was a restrike, this doesnt say. Just says random year and random condition.

>>19123636
What about my boating accident last saturday

>>19126417
I got some Austrian 1 ducats. They're gold, and are closer to spot than a 1/10th American Eagle.

>>19125816
Not true, everything has a premium, but there are still some private sellers willing to sell at a reasonable price. Not spot but pretty close. Gold and silver are not going down and staying down, smart people know this that’s why even private sellers are all selling at premium. Try /pmsforsale and find the right seller.

>>19126537
anon its like most things, those ducats aren't govt mint. and the eagles are...

>>19124288
lol

>>19125483
i gotta make some "march of dimes" themed oc now

>>19125504
press S for FDR

>>19126404
i ordered from them in march when rona chan was flexing strong and it took a month

how based can one man get for being 20 years old

>>19121870
after 9000 hours. thoughts?

>>19127014
Please, sauce, who is that man?

>>19127014
Holy based. Gj anon

>>19127038
>>19127040
thanks bros. had to look and shes kristy az from metart

>>19127038
shes not a man

R8 my stack /pmg/
>>19125504

>>19123113
Not in cardboard. Cardboard makes your silver go bad.

I put my silver in a wooden drawer

>>19127328
kyle bass would not be impressed with your rookie number of nickles but the monopoly money gives a nice contrast

>>19123636
Do you really think the police payed in monopoly money are going to go door by door to people who they think might have precious metals houses to snoop around for metal? Especially considering most stackers are armed to the teeth with guns and have the metal hidden?

The confiscation of 1933 happened when we were under a gold standard. it was just a scam to print money by raising the price of gold from 20 to 35.

Most people just handed the gold in for cash, this was during a time when people somewhat trusted their government.

Today no one trusts the US government. No one will willingly hand in the gold & silver.

Where can I get nazi silver coins that isnt ebay?

>>19127385
This is just my bug out bag stack but I didnt want to attract raiders in the chance that they get the sniff on me. I added a bunch of shit silver into it because of that. As for the nickles like I said before I use this my bug out bag collection but there is 3 rolls there.

>>19127464
youre doing alright anon. i kid about the nickles though because the based Kyle 'commie basher' Bass has a million dollars face value of them

>>19127832
Ah, based Kyle (minus the jew name)

>>19127014
god bless anon, I would prefer one with more clothes, to get the normies to google FWTDHWBJ

>>19126131
I ordered at 190 its one of my favorites the picture doesn't do it justice its stunning, even at its current price its worth it.

>>19121870
watch schiffs youtube stream
drink everytime you hear ‘gold’
thank me later

>>19128487
you mean if we live through the alcohol poisoning lol
no thanks anon

>>19123636
"Sorry Mr. Secret Service. I used all of my metals to settle private debts. No, unfortunately I did not keep any records of payments or transactions."

>>19129168
to jail with you then

>>19129188
>3 square meals, free
>Roof over my head and a bed, free
>get fit, no gym membership
>make friends
>have PMs when I get out
K.

>>19123113
Sour patch tin

>>19125483
Clean your junk silver you literal autist. They are already cull coins and they look like trash smeared in fecal tarnish. NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY YOU MORE FOR HISTORICAL FECES

Should I only buy kangaroos or should I diversify my stack and buy euro coins as well? I can't stop buying roos, they're so fucking cheap

>>19129558
Roos are really ugly and only really sought after in Australia. Buy ASE, Maples or Phils

>>19123113
Has anyone ever actually built a false wall in the back of a closet or something?

>>19129747
Isn't it the same thing with ASE and america though? Also I find ASE uglier than roos and almost as ugly as brittanias

>>19129558

>>19122001
Boomers are retarded. If you really want to help him just steal his VISA and make a phat purchase of gold then bury it in his garden. If he start to whine you sucker punch the faggot and tell him you just saved his pathetic boomnigger life.

>>19122001
You dont game the market buy reacting, you succeed by anticipating whats going to happen. If you wait until gold is going up you already fucked up. People should have been buying PMs for a year now because of how how bad the geopolitical situation was.

>>19121870
I always thought goldbugs were retarded, but that fucking pic is just too much.

>>19130216
Plus roos are 9999 fine

>>19121995
I'm balls deep in SLV call options. I think silver is the undervalued play of the spring/summer. It was WAY oversold.

>>19129297
>rape, free
>BBC over my head, free
>get tortured, no fingernails
>make shanks
>have aids when i get out
K.

>>19122388
You did ok fren, not the greatest but not the worst either.
Now the price (on the comex) is creeping back up, the premiums are lowering proportionally, so the price not really moved much. In the grand scheme of things $22 is still a super bargain, you wont even think about it when your oz will be in the 3 digits range by eoy.

That said i do think we'll experience a very last dip before the big moon mission. The stonks and crypto bubble are in very late stage rn, everyone knows it and the constant pumping+volatility make everybody super anxious. When it will go burst (probably by june or july), that the stonks & shitcoins both go to 0, that the bonds are avoided like plague bcuz ZIRP policy while holding $ become a liability because of negative interest rates and inflation, that real estate crash because of mortages payment default and renters going broke because no one pay, it will be the time for the commodities to shine.
The ONLY place left to invest will be PMs, literally nowhere left to escape but gold&silver. There will be hundreds of millions of boomers all over the world trying to save what's left from their retirement savings, and as many genX/millenials/zoomers trying to just keep some purchasing power or being addicted to their new speculator mindset from betting on coinbase or robinhood in the stonks/shitcoins wild rollercoaster of 2020.

First it will be a tiny +30% in a week for the PMs. Then as more ppl come, the supply availible dwindle, and we start to see +40% every two days. Then as the LCS are all empty and every normans figure out the COMEX is a scam, PMs start truly decoupling, premium get insane as the LCS can't keep up with the pace and only sell in preorder. At this point normans are now preordering 1oz of silver for $120, estimated delivery : september 2022.
They can't wait, the wagies are now ragies and want their shit now, so they start to buy on ebay and craiglist. $200, $250, $300, the bids go crazy high now.
1/2

>>19130345
Based.

>>19121921
250% from me.
Sorry thought this was a link thread.

>>19130732
But it's STILL NOT ENOUGH. Mints aren't delivering, mines who usually product silver as a byproduct weren't running since the industrial demand for copper/zinc/lead is at ATL. But silver is now selling for $400 on ebay, it's just too high, so the mines start to restart all over the world, they mine 10000T of zinc and lead for 10gr of silver, and dump all the base metals in the sea and only keep the silver, which they melt down to sell it on craiglist.
But of course it's not enough, the gubment start to be pissed and make a bill to nationalize by force all the mines producing gold and silver worldwide. There are now the national guard and 3 SWAT teams protecting each mine, who run 24/7. But the reserves are just too low, and millions of boomers are shitting their diapers of rage, zoomers are fuming to not be able to purchase the ultimate moon.

Then Satoshi reappear (it was Terry all along) in dec. 2020, and announce he created a BTC 2.0, backed by PMs. The market cap is $2 quadrillions, and to create the physical stock to back it up, a new fort know get created, and owner of PMs get offered a special contract : for each oz deposited, they get their silver reevaluated at $2500/oz, and gold at $25,000. Or they can decide to get dividends by running a "metal node", and each oz deposited will pay $80 every month, but they must pay fees if they want to get it back.

>>19130433
>that fucking pic is just too much.
soon the world will know

>>19130345
ok will do

Anyone ever used universalcoin.com?

Seeing it listed on findbullionprices.com and unsure about how legit it is

>>19130890
So if your silver stack is 20oz, it become interesting to make a metal node, you get $1600/month of divi-bux.
But to be really comfy i'd say 200oz is really sweet, you then get $16K/month doing nothing, and if you really need to, you still can cash out your stack anytime(15% in fees of the deposited metal value though..).

I know my prediction is kinda bearish, but i prefer to not be too hopium-driven. This way i avoid getting disappointed.

>>19131028
Which one should I get pmg? A plain kilo bar or a rat boi for a bit more premium?

Also it's wild seeing a kilo over 1000 aud again, haven't seen that since 2013

>>19130216
You have shit taste I don’t know what to say

>>19126085
It’s not that exciting. He posted it at like 260 replies so the thread stopped bumping soon. Anons urged him to repost in new thread but he didn’t. He had a legitimate tube of ASE and the reddit one and the height difference was about 1 coin per 20

>>19121870
omfg in this video he literally says gold "represents all the effort needed to mine it".

Is this absolute clown for real?

>>19124859
Yes. But his point was a out confiscation. Will it happen again?
Probably not, and here's why:
In 1933, we were on a gold standard. Federal Reserve legally couldn't just print money. So to print more money they meeded to round up more gold. Then they devalued that gold so they could print even more.

Today, none of that is needed. Dollar tied to nothing. Just paper and digits. Money printer go brrrrr.

>>19131311
It's true. When you hold any metal, the energy and work required to get that metal is inherent.

>>19131379
You're an idiot.

>>19131386
>you're an idiot
Says the genius who can't understand basic logic like: a gold coin has value because of the energy and work it took to make it.

>>19131440
brb digging a big trench for no reason

>>19131457
Just how dumb are you? Maybe one of the LINK threads is more your speed.

>>19131479
What?
I'm putting in energy and work, so the trench should have value, right?

>>19131486
are you implying that excavation is free?

>>19131509
No.

imagine being a retard and buying gold and not gold miners

>>19131509
It's actually pretty telling how this is what you thought my point was.

>>19131440
this is a retarded logic and not at all why gold is a great store of value.

>>19131517
Ok. Anything that is not free has value. Even common dirt has value once excavated, based almost entirely on the cost to excavate. Gold has a much higher cost to excavate and refine giving it much higher inherent value.

>>19131117
It depends on what you want. Personally I collect bars because rectangles stack more efficiently than coins and they have lower premiums. Others here like the looks of coins and the fact that you can often get slightly better prices on resale. I may eventually get a few coins, but for now it's all bars for me.

>>19131578
Yap you're a confirmed retard, bud. You sound like bitcoin maximalists circa 2011:
>its value is wasted electricity!
Value is demonstrated interest, not arbitrary inputs or expenditure.

>>19131578
So when gold drops 20% in value, is that because it became 20% easier to mine?

>>19131610
Ok well good luck buying gold for less than it costs to excavate. Meanwhile Ill keep being a retard and stacking as normal.

>>19131612
market price has many more variables than just value so this is a pointless avenue

>>19131685
>market price has many more variables than just value
Market price IS value.
Are you having a stroke?

>>19126023
$22/coin, this guy has tons of diff years

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-20-2018-Austria-Vienna-Philharmonic-1-oz-999-Silver-Rounds/373022230163?hash=item56d9db8693:g:wtIAAOSwGAVel0JA

Going to the flea market today. There’s a reputable coin table there that had lots of silver and fractional gold. Hope there’s a deal to be had

>>19131626
Let's say it costs $1000 to excavate, melt and transport 1oz of gold. Now let's say you buy it for $1100. Fast forward to 20 years later, it now costs $500 to excavate, melt and transport the same oz of gold. Do you think you can still sell one oz of gold for $1100?

>>19130927
>universalcoin.com
this might be the boomerest of the boomer PM sites

>>19123113
get a safe, it's one of the most essential things I own

I wanna /r/equest those juicy schiff memes, where he's standing on a pile of gold. I think there was someone else in the pic but I don't remember who.

>>19131767
Youre either purposefully or accidentally misunderstanding my position. Excavation cost which I referred to as inherent value is NOT the market price. It IS a realistic price floor. Gold and other materials are still subject to supply and demand, which may be accounted for with already existing stocks. And gold production cost has never gone down so this is another pointless argument.

>>19131878
>inherent value is NOT the market price
Oh my fucking god.

>>19131822
Yep, get a safe and put it in your closet like everyone else. Then leave it empty of everything except a note with a crudely drawn leprechaun on it that says "you'll never get my lucky charms". Hide your silver somewhere else.

>>19131878
>It IS a realistic price floor.
Even this is absolutely fallacious.

If demand drops low enough to drop the price below miner profitability, miners will simply stop mining.

Got these cunnies today, the quarter came free

>>19131551
imagine being a retard and not buying both

>>19123113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yRCDU-80IQ

This right here fren

>>19131573
Never said that. Need to read what the conversation it about. He's implying that energy and labour to produce something with demand has no value.

pls frens gib me (you)s for the effort
>>19130732
>>19130890
>>19131028

>>19121870
what do you guys think about precious stones? are some of them decent for storing value?

Apparently, retards don't understand the meaning of inherent.

I guess that explains all the shilling for retarded cryptos. "Hurr durr! It's worth because it's limited! Hurr durrr, which other limited crypto should I buy next! So many options! Hurrr durrr!"

That and buying 2900 p/e "tech stawks".

>>19123636
The government doesn't need your metal in the same way FDR did of that's what you're worried about. Would they like it? Sure but it's not stopping then from expanding the money supply or other economic atrocities. Getting some nutty stacker with a 1000oz of silver and 50oz of gold to cough it up isn't going to be worth such a small amount of liquidity.

>>19132372
No.

>>19129415
Clad Eisenhower. Not even worth 25¢ in metal.

>>19129454
If I see obviously and poorly-cleaned silver coinage in a post-fiat economy, I'm going to charge you extra, since you were a retard and washed a good 5% of your metal down the drain, literally.

>>19132384
No. They're called JEWels for a reason.

>>19132399
Seriously. There's literally zero value in flicking a switch and letting your mining rig go BRRRRRR while you sit back and NEET.
Gold and silver requires people get out of the house, and put in physical effort. That's your floor. They gotta eat too.

Two little packages have arrived.

>>19132499
>Clad Eisenhower. Not even worth 25¢ in metal.
That’s why it’s off to the side

>>19132522
My bad. Placeholder reply there as I went through. Not sure why it's in with the Constitutional though.

>>19132547
Just because my junk silver collection is so small. I had this half dollar lying around and threw it in with the constitutional

What a beauty

Is it worth investing in meme coins like sealand dollars?

>>19130732
>>19130890
>>19131028
>>19132372
here's your (You), fren. I really hope it turns out to be true, even though I'm only at 64oz silver, 2 some oz gold, because europoor with crazy premiums and sales tax on silver, and only started stacking less than a month ago

>>19128077
>FWTDHWBJ
Idiot here, what is this?

>>19125287
>>19125360
I made this ugly bastard at work last year. before I even knew what stacking was.

>>19132727
What is it

>>19132499
>5% of your metal goes down the drain, literally

>>19121870
Retail anon here, our store does not accept anything other than fiat currently and even Gold would be rejected as a currency - arguably you'd be tasked with stealing and likely arrested because you were suspiciously carrying gold around using that instead of the pre-established fiat.

>>19131865

>>19123113
For fucks sake, Ricky. Stop shooting the squirrels!

>>19132854
Thanks for the heads up Rabbi.

>>19132854
Ok boomer

>>19130732

I very much hope so. Logically nothing else can happen unless the American finance sector has some shit up its sleeve..."never bet against the Fed".

I strongly believe there will be one more major dip in PMs before the moon. It will occur in conjunction with a Market crash before 2021 and will be the final sell-off of all paper gold and silver.

why people keep saying gold is money? quiet obviously it is not.

>money is a currency that is legal tender
>currency is a unit of account and a medium of exchange
>medium of exchange must be portable and durable
>unit of account must be fungible and divisible

gold is not even currency, it's a commodity and an could theoretically used in a limited sense as money substitute (medium of exchange) but it's not really even that.

>>19133007
If you don't have gold of silver then you don't have any money, period.

>>19133007
It only stopped being money for some decades after thousands of years. During which many currencies have come and gone while metals never lost value.

>>19133044
they are not money m8 they are exactly the same as any other metal. no different from copper, iron, zink, led, tungsten or whatever. just commodity.

>>19133056
i would say gold and silver were the anti-counterfeit measure of money.

One of my indian head half eagles just sold at auction for $750

>>19123636
Good luck finding it

>>19125205
take some of those ugly coin cases off and store them in tubes? You'd be surprised how much room it frees up.

>>19131311
>never seen or will understand the srsrocco report
Mentally retarded and NGMI pilled

>>19132874
Thanks mate, i also saw another one the other day with red background i think.

>>19133067
The metals you all listed are not like gold and silver, those are industrial metals while gold and silver are monetary metals

>>19133081
Fucking boomers man.

>>19133152
gold and silver are also industrial metals. no country uses them as monetary metals.

>>19133171
Only because the central banks have fucked around with the world's monetary policy.

>>19123113
Mangowood pirate chest

>>19132663
Formerly well-to-do house wives blow jobs

>>19133171
Hey kid, ever hear of the Bank of International Settlements. Didnt think so. >the bank of all banks says gold is money

For all the chuckle fucks and mental midgets who cant understand why gold and silver are the best forms of money
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCED7G7CZfqdSV9zttlr1M_g

>>19133165
I ain’t complaining bro

It’s PCGS MS63 though so I think that it was worth it.

>>19133230
no mainly because the fiat system is much better overall. it was an evolutionary step pretty much concluding in 0% reserve fully debt based monetary system.

which in itself is not the problem. people get all mixed up in this shit they thing this fundamentally makes the system faulty or evil. no. it makes the system extremely efficient and flexible.

the problem is the debt burden/productivity ratio. if the system is abused and over extended it becomes self consuming. above 90% debt/gdp it's game over.

>>19133318
lot's of idiots do. they have no clue what money is that's the problem.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9K_8oCym9ro
Heres a nice and short video that cuts to the chase

>>19133318
>why gold and silver are the best forms of money
it's probably the worst form of money for a modern global economy.

but here is the most awful property of gold and silver: distribution. only like 5 counties mine any significant quantity on this planet and we got 200 something other countries who would have no right to issue their own sovereign money if we used gold and silver as money.

just imagine a country denied the right to issue it's own money and have to buy it's money from an other country... god damn!

>>19133361
Yeah. Worth it for the boomer sure.

>>19133434
It's no different with centrally issued fiat.

>>19133107
Isn't it bad to take the coins out of the cases though? Especially if they're coins with a premium?

>>19133511
Don't do it with coins with high premium/numismatic value then

>>19133434
>it's probably the worst form of money for a modern global economy
Well thats just your opinion and its wrong. Gold backs the world central banks. The largest and oldest populations on earth use it to pass down their wealth, india and china. Russia is one of the largest petro energy producers and they have been stacking gold while selling dollars.

No country would be denied the right to issue its own currency in what ever form it takes. As long as its backed by or represents something valuable no one is going to be “left out in the cold”.

>>19133119
>SRSrocco report
If they say gold has inherent value because of "all the effort needed to mine it", then they're as retarded/scammy as Schiff.

>>19133471
yeah it's just the polar opposite no different at all.
>>19133613
>Russia
known for their raging economic success and brain talent for business and economy since the medievals

Seeing a bunch of people saying there's going to be a Uranium bull market too, anyone know about this?

>>19133636
Its be easy to convince you 2+2=5

>>19133640
Lol at russians is a good past time but it don’t change the facts

>>19121921
Up 22%. Worth over 2 million now

>>19122680
so do you homo.

>>19133974
the fact is gold is not money and is not hoarded by countries like russia because it's money. hey have a problem with usd they have to rely on the us to transact in it and can be denied. they also have no credit and nobody wants their shit currency the rubel. so sometimes they have to physically settle in a commodity that is portable enough and widely accepted as money substitute still.

but think about it... how much more snese it would take for russia to adopt bitcoin once the bitcoin market cap is big enough to accommodate and the price is stabilized enough to allow for such transactions. securing and transacting in bitcoin is a quadrillion times cheaper than delivering gold.

>>19133974
>Its be easy to convince you 2+2=5
Thanks for that, Pranjat.

Bean bags

>>19134071
You're a nigger.

>>19134231
that's how you lose an argument? cute.

Not too sure why the DOUBLES are not more popular, great coin

Does anyone store metals inside of bank safes?

>>19134333
>letting literal jews "take good care" of your stack

>>19134260
youre simply wrong and no one cares to contradict you because the only consequence of you being wrong is you becoming destitute

>>19134071
The Russian federation has only a fraction of the debt we in the US have. Under 18% to over 100% for America, they can be a creditor if they choose to and their gold reserves will solidify their position

>https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/silver-bars/1kg-silver-bar/metalor-1-kg-silver-bar/
Is this a bad deal? £675 for 1kg of silver.

>>19134652
Read the OP. Use the comparative website.

>>19134652
ordered from them too. am happy. If you want i can invite you via reflink to the website so you get a 1 oz britannia when purchasing 300+€

drop your email

Is it worth getting an Gold Eagle at .9167 purity instead of a Gold bar in assay in .9999 for $60 cheaper? Or just get a Gold Buffalo and be done with it?

>>19135172
Gold eagle. They're recognized as one of the most beautiful gold coins ever minted.

Found no good deals at the coin table table today. Paid $75 for three eagles just to keep stacking

>>19123113
melt it and make some black painted doorstopper from it and put it near your sleeping room door

>>19135172
I was thinking about getting some maples but I just love these too much

>>19134260
Your father was a pig and your mother was a beagle!

>>19123113
If you want a way to hid some so that not even you will remember where it is, you can hide a couple ounces in an electrical box in your walls.

>>19134301
Never seen them, where can you get them?

>>19135292
>They're recognized as one of the most beautiful gold coins ever minted
Really?
>>19135508
How much are those coin cases

>>19135616
But all my wall sockets are occupied by pesky high voltage electricity.

>>19135508
Probably a good decision. You don't want to buy precious metals stamped with a reptilian shapeshifter on the front.

>>19135668
That one is actually part of a set.

>>19131028
True if large

>>19135753
Holy shit that price. Why did I have a retarded teen back in the day wasting my money on video games. Fuck

>>19135677
I hear silver and electricity go very nice together.

The idea was to add empty electrical boxes to your walls since you cant tell the difference unless you pop one open.

>>19135753
Holy shit nigger how did you afford that in the 4th grade

>>19131962
Wrong. Mines will operate at a loss for a long time before shutting down because it costs less to do that than maintain a shutdown mine.
>>19132590
Very kino. I really wish the queen wasnt on the other side :(
>>19133171
"Industrial metals" lmao. Yeah nobody hoards gold. Just crazy people. So russia hoards gold because nobody wants the Rubel? Then why does every other major global player have gold?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserve ???
>>19134071
Yeah because if I'm russia, I want to use bitcoin so every transaction I make is plastered on the internet in a public format for the rest of forever.
>>19134123
Getting uppity over a typo is the mark of a literal autist.

>>19136132
>Wrong. Mines will operate at a loss for a long time before shutting down because it costs less to do that than maintain a shutdown mine.
Oh I'm sure they will.
The point is that them operating at a loss or eventually ceasing operations will not stop the gold price from continuing to drop.

>>19135172
You still get an ounce of gold either way. It would only matter if you plan to melt it down at some point.

>tfw no precious metals gf to share precious memories with

>>19135826
That’s the thing about exponential growth. We don’t see it until it’s too late. That’s why normies laugh at us and trade stonks until the bubble pops they’re left bitching at us and will raise taxes and takes away our metals because muh socialism revolution

>>19136132
>Yeah because if I'm russia, I want to use bitcoin so every transaction I make is plastered on the internet in a public format for the rest of forever.
dude you can't seriously think a state like russia can make a deal in secret with an other state requiring them to move heavy metals... nah the point is who can stop said deal and how to mitigate other dangers.

russia won't use bitcoin until it has serious systemic risks. then they probably won't use gold ever again unless for tooth filings.

>>19130890
>mines who usually product silver as a byproduct weren't running since the industrial demand for copper/zinc/lead is at ATL

>this retard thinks multibillion dollar industrial mines employing thousands of people start or stop based on 2 month fluctuations in demand

this is the retard giving you advice

>>19136132
>So russia hoards gold because nobody wants the Rubel?
that's exactly why most countries also for the same reason. not everyone is willing to accept usd or can transact in usd for every deal. doesn't mean gold is money. may as well be uranium or something else. but then again you can't weaponize gold.

>>19136914
i just want to take pics with two gold eagles covering a qt's nipples

>>19135172
buffalo and eagles are nice if you're american since they're legal tender, plus I like the designs

>>19135753
based set and 2001 stacker

>>19137120
i bet shes got a stack of dimes waiting to spend on formerly well to do husbands

>>19135616
What if you die and no one knows where your stash is, do you leave a note for you family?

keep stacking bois!

>>19133007
This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen on this board

Just took the plunge and bought 2 oz of gold and 300 oz of silver.

Probably not the best time to buy when looking for profit.

Main reason I bought was to not be 100% in fiat.
Now I'm 10% precious metals like everyone seems to recommend.
Who knows how this crisis will pan out. At least now I'll have some peace of mind.

How is everyone spread between Stocks/Savings/Metal/Crypto?

How many other biztards here are stacking constitutional silver? I love finger fucking my 1964 JFK half dollars

so are gold backed ETFs just a retarded way to hold gold? i dont see anyone discussing them here

>>19137290
>Zimbabwe money

good stuff, i've bought my little brother a 5 billion dollar note to teach him fiat is bullshit.

>>19137368
Its widely accepted that it is over traded 100 to 1 and is a over glorified version of musical chairs

>>19137309
Optimal investment portfolio regardless of economic climate is
>19% precious metals
>24% equities
>18% bonds
>18% trending commodities
>21% long volatility

>>19123113
>>19137274

I don't stack but what I would do is (and comments are welcome), I would have my main stash of $10000 of PM in a safe. Every time I add another $2000 bundle, I stash it somewhere new.

>hollowed out book
>toilet cistern
>buried in back yard
>buried in remote location
>fake electric socket
>compost heap
etc...

The locations of the bundles would be kept in an encrypted file on multiple computers, phones and in the cloud.

I would use multiple email services to schedule an email to all my family members on the day after my birthday every year, containing info on how to access and decrypt the file.

On my birthday I would cancel the next scheduled email.

>>19137512
Forgot to say the email would be encrypted and I wouldn't just write the password in it, I would put a riddle that only my family could know.

>>19137290
>>19137385
Where can I buy 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 GIGA GORILLIAN QUINTILLION Zimbabwe dollar bills?

How fucking based that something like that is real legal tender. I can think of no better tool to redpill fiat normies.

>>19128556
Christ, buy a decent handgun

>>19137302
that's because you are one of those unfortunate brainlets that been fed the "gold is money" lie and wallowed it like a tard

>>19137597
fun fact: if simbabwe's currency is stable (small inflation) it isn't problematic that the nominals of the bills are damn high. fiat is only good as temporary storage of wealth. it would suck if you sell hotdogs and every customer throws 2 nanogramm gold dust at you. but for long term storage of $10,000 it is perfect. if fiat crashes (great inflation) you are safe and gold doesn't rot away if it gets wet or burns to ash in fire. i don't understand people calling it boomer rocks. it is so much more. nethertheless, i'm cracking a cold one (i heard you yankees say that). indeed it is a corona beer. i bought a few one recently. maybe i can show them may decendants in a few decades and tell the story how i and a bunch of unteachable enthusiasts on a japanese bathtub forum made jokes about fiat fags and built us some generational wealth. cheers.

You're buying gold that can fit in your smugglers wallets right anon?

>>19137895
Gold is money brainless. Bitcoin is worthless

>>19138324
gold would only be money if you could buy things with it in a store.

>>19139037
altho i would require it also to be a unit of account (which gold definitely is not since it's a fucking commodity and nobody on this planet is doing accounting in gold ouces)

>>19139037
if its legal tender then you could use it to buy some snacks and a coffee

>>19131311
it's what is a store of value you dumdum : the energy spent to acquire it.

>>19139037
>not knowing about Goldmoney cards
You were NGMI

>>19137597
I'm pretty sure the 100 trillion Zimbabwe dollar bills are no longer legal tender. That shit hole had to essentially reboot its money multiple times over the past decade. If you're interested in them, I think you can find them on eBay. When they were still legal tender, they weren't even worth $1 USD. Americans who visited Zimbabwe and bought those bills for $1 USD as novelties thrilled the locals to death as they got a relatively hard currency for something that was worth at most pennies.

>>19139146
yes trade a gold piece for $5 or $50 most of the times they tell you to fuck off brighter clerks would pocket it and pay instead of you into the register.

>>19139229
i would personally tell you to fuck off tho because i can't check for forgeries

Am I going to make it bros?

>>19139392
Yes, but practice ur dueling skills or someone else will make it

>>19131486
Yes, if that trench is something you can now sell at a market, it stays a trench for the forseeable future, and it can be moved around. Are these things true?
The point is energy is converted into a physical representation that can be traded, your trench example would actually work if trenches were small, unforgable nuggets.

>>19137886
Taurus' are great handguns, when you pull them out of your holster they automatically fire a warning shot at the ground. Really neat feature.

>>19139392
that's a nice rep daytona, is it a Noob v2?

>>19125504
How would you spend it? Say the government not only confiscated it but made it illegal to buy goods with gold. It's not like you can pay taxes in coins.

>>19139609

It's a 116528 blue racing dial.

It's not a rep.

>>19139686
>pay theft in coins
ftfy

gold has been here long before and will be here long after our govt

>>19121870
that image is fucking stupid because nobody will accept your fake ass gold as payment because nobody can tell that it's not fake.
using gold as payment is a pipedream.

>>19121870

Wut?

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