/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19109661
creg is going to kill himself

>>19109676
craig will have a mental breakdown sooner or later because of all the lies he has buried himself in so i don't really care

but this guy has been pissing me off for years and it physically hurts me now when people say he is satoj

>>19109661
OP can't handle the truth
You need to be a literal fucking brainlet to not realise that Adam Back is 100% Satoshi

>>19109828
Greg Maxwell is going to prison

>>19109661
found the brainlet... craig is a hundred times less likely to be satoshi than adam and adam is sure as hell not satoshi.

>>19109676
promises, promises

>>19109828
He's 100% a loser

>>19110427
he is still a billion times smarter than any cashie
except for peter rizun maybe altho rizun been pretty disappointed in cash lately.

>>19110503
well not really but he has issues with governance
https://twitter.com/PeterRizun/status/1229921793697124353

>>19109661
>>19109779
>>19109828
>>19109676
>>19110313
>>19110353
>>19110427
>>19110503
>>19110633

Satoshi wanted digital cash - Adam wants e-gold
Satoshi wanted scaling on chain - Adam wants tabs and lightning
Satoshi wanted big server farms - Adam wants raspberry pis
Satoshi wanted micropayment capability - Adam celebrates high fees
Satoshi wanted instant payments - Adam disabled it
Satoshi wanted a protocol set in stone - Adam fucked the protocol beyond recognition
Satoshi wanted Gavin to carry the torch of Bitcoin forward - Adam kicked Gavin out

~

Satoshi wanted digital cash - so does Craig Wright
Satoshi wanted scaling on chain - so does Craig Wright
Satoshi wanted big server farms - so does Craig Wright
Satoshi wanted micropayment capability - so does Craig Wright
Satoshi wanted instant payments - so does Craig Wright
Satoshi wanted a protocol set in stone - so does Craig Wright
Satoshi wanted Gavin to carry the torch of Bitcoin forward - Gavin testified that Craig Wright was definitely the person behind Satoshi

Did it click yet? 1+1 = 2

Logic is a wonderful thing

so first it is Leroux, then Bilal andnow Adam Back?


Anon, it is Craig, get over it.

>>19111379
this

craig is satoshi and will be the next POTUS

>>19109661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfcvX0P1b5g&feature=youtu.be

>discuss

>>19109661
>i mean i understand believing in CSW
lol

>>19109661
Satoshi is either dead of was already a billionaire before he started. Nobody who is alive and not absurdly rich could resist the temptation to cash out at least a little.

>>19112650
What if he lost the keys?

thanks, he is 100% satoshi

>>19111379
>satoshi puts his work on the table
>craig posts obscure threats and wild claims on twitter

>satoshi shares his invention with the world open and free
>craig files multiple patents to troll devs

>satoshi values his privacy
>craig is an attention whore constantly spamming the internet with pictures of homosexual decadence

>satoshi shows and explains
>craig verbally abuses anyone who disagrees

the list could go on indefinitely really. the two of them couldn't have been more different in pretty much every aspect of character.

>>19111379
Basically true

Anyone have the rundown on BSV? I've been gone a while. What was their problem with BCC?

>>19113058
this is a low IQ analysis

>>19113093
what did you expect, that anon is a core cuck and is happy paying 3USD fees at the moment to use muh digital gold

>>19113132
Imagine spending $5 on a $2 cup of coffee

>>19113093
it's the observable truth

>>19109661
thatd probably be very convenient... for you

>>19113058
>https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/188/
>https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/287/
>https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/318/
they seem pretty aligned to me
also
>comparing how people act anonymously online vs in public
anon i...

Anyone who has gone deep down the Satoshi rabbit hole knows that Adam Back isn't even remotely close to being him, but some people have to learn for themselves so I won't stop them

>>19113532
it's shill bullshit

here's an observable truth

>$3 tx fees make BTC unusable as a currency
>Satoshi obviously intended BTC to be a currency

here's another one
>refusing to adjust the block limit, for no good reason, slows tx confirmation time.
>Satoshi explicitly said to raise it as needed
>10 minute transaction time makes BTC unusable as a currency

>>19113058
>satoshi puts his work on the table
Don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

>satoshi shares his invention with the world open and free
He did, and then it was hijacked by blockstream kikes who took control of it and disfigured it beyond recognition. Satoshi would not approve, so if he came back, he would be furious at what they had done and make sure to better protect against subversion of the protocol with patents - wait, exactly what Craig did.

>satoshi values his privacy
He did. And so did Craig. Until it was violated by Gizmodo who outed him in 2014/2015 and started harassing him, his family and his colleagues and forced him to expose himself and go on record. So yes, Satoshi lost his privacy AGAINST his will. Perfectly consistent with Craig, who still says he would prefer being a private person out of the spotlight, studying, building, inventing and doing his work behind the scenes.

>satoshi shows and explains
So does Craig. In fact, I have never seen anyone freely share his knowledge as much as Craig. He has an great blog where he discusses all things Bitcoin and Blockchain, and he has written over 300 articles that cover everything about the cryptography, economics, law, game theory and life. Craig is a teacher and extremely generous with his knowledge

Go here and learn, it's free
https://craigwright.net/

There is nothing inconsistent with Craig being Satoshi, and the argument about his personality can easily be explained as him getting fed up and losing his patience - which is natural considering the egregious circumstances of what happened to his vision and his lifes' work when the Blockstream fags took over.

So try again.

>>19110503
at least cashies are obvious
they want big blocks and it gets cultish with CSW

and then you have this cuck who goes >i'm not satoshi ;)))
with bots in comments spamming >thats what a satoj would say!!1

and this is the guy who tells people to stop buying cappuccinos with btc

>>19115290
>i mean i understand believing in CSW

>>19109779
>but this guy has been pissing me off for years and it physically hurts me now when people say he is satoj

>>19115290
>and this is the guy who tells people to stop buying cappuccinos with btc


you are so fucking stupid it's amazing.

Adam Back is cited in the Bitcoin whitepaper, if it wasn't him. It was someone like him. He has a PhD in distributed systems.

A brainlet like you can barely comprehend the most simple of trade offs someone like him makes when designing a network.

The reason he pisses you off is that he makes you feel stupid, the feeling accurately describes your current situation so I guess you'll have to make do with that rotten spongy material between your ears for the rest of your miserable life.

Or you can begin to read and study things so your brain turns from mush into something useful for other people to interact with.

>>19109779
>but this guy has been pissing me off for years and it physically hurts me now when people say he is satoj

lol imagine being this fragile over the real identity of some faggot.

>>19114205
>$3 tx fees make BTC unusable as a currency
not really i pay way worse on my international wires especially on large sums. grasping at straws are you?
>10 minute transaction time makes BTC unusable as a currency
i was 2-3 days on my international wires and getting absolutely raped on fees like a couple of grand.

>>19114634
blahblahblah
just accept it craig never said a true word in his life except when he told his momma he is hungry.

>>19114634
just curious what do you think about his ex wife telling the court under oath that craig never mentioned her bitcoin until he asked her to fraudulently testify to the ato?

>>19115534
This isn't reddit Adam

>>19115664
b-but muh coffee.

>>19116747
i can buy coffee with anything. never had problem buying coffee in my life.
it will also probably work with lightning without any issues way better than 0-conf.

but i can totally understand the frustration some people have with blockstream. the impatient retardation flailing around forking left and right is not helping tho.

>>19111379
Satoshi was a quiet humble intellectual. Creg is a technobabbling attention whore that can't even understand undergraduate tier calculus.

I still think it's szabo. Could be Finney or Back. Definitely not creg the idiot lmao.

I'm no expert but the most compelling thing I've read is that Adam Back raised a couple hundred million to start blockstreamdespite never publicly contributing to bitcoin code and, assuming he is not Satoshi, did not have the social proof or reparation needed to attract/warrant the investment he got

But I'm just a retard repeating something I read, I could be completely wrong

>>19111379
Bitcoin came in response to central banks printing money. It has been about preserving wealth since day one. Satoshi’s first message in the blockchain was not about how Elon Musk had frozen his paypal so he couldn’t buy coffee.

>>19116361
>This isn't reddit Adam
let me guess you're a BSV maximalist
utter brainlet!

>>19111379
>>19112306
bases

>>19114634

Based and stiffpilled

>>19116964
You are coping.

Hal is Satoshi. The sheer odds of him living just minutes away from an actual guy named Satoshi Nakamoto + the fact he was the recipient of the first bitcoin transaction is enough evidence. The first transaction was likely him sending himself bitcoin through two personal wallets to test the system.

Seriously, how many people in the US are named Satoshi Nakamoto? And what are the odds of an OG cypherpunk guy living just minutes away from one of them?

>>19117167
>Satoshi’s first message in the blockchain was not about how Elon Musk had frozen his paypal so he couldn’t buy coffee.

What is the title of the Bitcoin white paper again, brainlet? You are allowed to quote verbatim.

Satoshi was from somewhere in California.

>>19116964

Money and notoriety changes people

Go look at pics and posts by Craig pre-bitcoin and you'll find a completely different person

>>19117375
part 2: Hal's brain is also frozen at the Alcor foundation. Inner circle who knows he is Satoshi want to understand his brain.

>>19117369
Why the screenshot of random nobodies on twitter?

>>19117758
Money doesn't turn intellectuals into complete brainlets in less than 10 years.

>>19117821
So Hal was a shizo exchanging emails with himself?

No, Hal was helping Craig with the Bitcoin code in the early days.

>>19118070
No he was obsessed with preserving anonymity. What better way to pretend you're not satoshi than by exchanging emails with yourself that other people can see? In fact, he was basically shilling bitcoin because he knew the messages could be seen by others. He would send Satoshi (himself) public messages saying that it sounds like a good idea and he should get started on the code.

>>19118174
Cute story you just pulled out of your butthole, but nope.

>>19118367
https://medium.com/swlh/the-creator-of-bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-is-most-likely-this-guy-8723eddb517c

"After posting the whitepaper on the mailing list, Satoshi Nakamoto received three replies. Two of them were negative. However, the third answer was very much affirmative, and it boosted the acceptance of bitcoin. Guess who posted that message? You’re right, it was Hal Finney.
The message was:
This does seem to be a very promising and original idea, and I am looking forward to seeing how the concept is further developed.
He even encouraged Satoshi to write the code, thinking others would be convinced once they saw the network running."

This was on the mailing list.

Anon, do you know what google is?

>>19118546
This thread is mostly filled with shills. No point in trying to convince someone them.

>>19118592
Deep down I know, sometimes it's just so hard to resist correcting them lol

>>19117937
he already had money, he didn't have all the media attention

>>19109661
Imagine thinking this retard is Satoshi.

>>19118546
We already know that Craig is Satoshi, so your half-assed blogpost fantasies are kind of cringe.

>>19118546
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>>19109661
Adam Back is Satoshi, end of story

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>>19119342
Everyone knows creg is a liar, a fraud and technically incompetent.

>>19119481
based mother of dragons

>>19118546
funny thing is it was not really so original. it's basically combining bit gold with hashcash and blockchains. 3 already existing widely known pieces.

>>19109661
>humble looking nerd with thoughtful eyes
Vs.
>scammy attention whore
Well I know who I want Satoshi to be. I also want him to read me a bedtime story while I’m in my jammy-jams

if u insult master craig satoj u should worri

>>19109661
Blockstream literally paid to have that embarrassment of a documentary made, and it's extremely obvious now.

Hi satoj here. I used a pseudonym for a reason. Never talk to me or my wifes son again.

>>19109661
>Understand CSW
How? How nigger? Just look at him, he's the clearest case of slimy scammer I've ever fucking seen

>>19115664
>electronic cash is a replacement for wires not cash

>>19116865
>work
>lightning

Here we are faced with the problems of loss of privacy, creeping computerization, massive databases, more centralization – and Chaum offers a completely different direction to go in, one which puts power into the hands of individuals rather than governments and corporations. The computer can be used as a tool to liberate and protect people, rather than to control them.
a quote from Finney via a 1992 cypherpunks email

;)

>>19119342
>>19119366

>>19121346
i got news for you. adoption is about need and advantage. bitcoin has no advantage over cash in payments. at all.

>>19123164
>bitcoin has no advantage over cash in payments. at all.
>mails a twenty dollar bill to buy an item from Europe
vs
>send Bitcoin

kys niggerbrain.

>>19109661
Adam Back is Satoshi.
Blockstream needs to be stopped.
They are an arm of the Bilderberg Group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4rsft-7Vx4

>>19115664
Remember when you could buy games on steam with bitcoin and then they removed the option to pay with bitcoin because of the fees? What a great currency!

>>19117167
Based

>>19124497
>Remember when you could buy games on steam with bitcoin and then they removed the option to pay with bitcoin because of the fees? What a great currency!

Bitcoin Cash what a great store of value.

>>19112650
Yes you could. If you seriously believed in what you were doing and knew moving the coins would fuck it all up even selling them in a dark pool where you sell the keys but the coins stay put with NDAs etc you couldn’t fucking take the chance.

>>19117375
This. Hal was satoshi.

>>19109661
>>19109828
event corecucks don't believe Back is Satoshi
They all believe he is Szabo
who admittedly is a pretty strong candidate.

>>19116964
although he's a total scam artist, it's not impossible that creg was a part of a team satoshi either. the poker angle fits. Creg stealing/putting together some ideas, e.g. copying the literal description of bitcoin from Szabo and working with someone like Kleinman to build it
maybe Satoshi wasn't a genius, just really great at plagiarising

>>19117020
being cited in the Bitcoin whitepaper and having one of your associated inventions included in Bitcoin is pretty good credentials
Bitcoin was suddenly a route to billion dollar profit, any people considered experts in that space were going to have money thrown at them