/biz/ - Business & Finance

>he missed the generational bottom

>>19036210
Are generations 12 years?

If the Fed ever lets the stock market correct, what will you buy, /biz/?

Any value investors here?

>he thinks we've hit the bottom
>14% unemployment
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

What's your favourite /biz/ film?

>he thinks
See, that's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>China vs US cold war 3.0
>2nd wave of meme virus in Asia and parts of europe
>Dr. Fauci and Obama shit
Futures pump from -0.9% to +0.33% please fucking stop it already FED. enough is enough.

Calls for NIO sound good?

>>19036250
>Dr. Fauci and Obama shit
what

When's the dip boys? I'm sitting here on cash

>>19036239
A Billion Dollar Day and The Hustler

>>19036264
Few hours

CODX looking to make a moov

>>19036264
MY guess is a month to end of year. Momentum trade in the meantime Bobo. Ride the FOMO.

>>19036239
Trading places was comfy

>>19036264
Lots of indicators saying soon. VVIX is diverging from VIX just like it did mid Feb before it popped off.

Is it worth buying 1000 shares of xom and live of dividents?

you guys actually think boomers are going to allow millenials a chance at cheapies again? you have lost your minds, all those Bloomberg articles about millenials loading up on robinhood pushed them into a buying spree rage

>>19036319
Millenials are the ones who the dip you fucking retard.

>>19036319
Only the MMs decide which way we move, and we're are all irrelevant to them.

>>19036319
Surely they would start phasing out of a market they made into a shitcoin and start plundering Social Security in earnest?

>>19036319
My hope is it's the other way around. Millennials aren't going to give boomers a chance at cashing out.

>>19036319
Boomers are on their deathbed, they can't wait another 10 years for a market recovery. They'll prop up the market while they push stocks onto Robinhood investors

>>19036319
aren't millenials the ones that are buying at these prices right now?
the big boys will just dump it and leave them bagholding

Why didn't you listen to him?

>>19036259
>buying calls when the stock is severely undervalued and even less than $5
Ngmi

>>19036312
>Lots of indicators saying soon
Which ones

>>19036370
Hedge funds are rent seeking scams.

>>19036391
The Broccoli Oscillator

>>19036370
because everyone was too busy buying tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA1Ji-Hj1qo

Key takeaways
15:05 Why the stock market has been mooning
29:50 World economy: What to look at
31:40 World economy: Global trade vs local storage/savings

>>19036391
yahoo finance comments

My own way tells me the market will drop hard and low. Not that much injuries but the ride would be fun.
Will happen when Nobody expects it.

The VVIX is positively diverging from VIX is one.

Another one is related to the image, what happes when the NASDAQ closes up at least .5% 6 days in a row.

Usac mooning AGAIN premarital.

>>19036421
at least I hope

>index is up 1 percent
>my 3 carefully selected stocks, with good TA and fundamentals, are down several percent
I hate this.

>Make over 60% gains of 100k
>Sold all my leveraged/options positions for regular stocks/market indexs
>Markets still keep going up
>still have 20k in cash
I don't mind if the market crashes 40-60% but should I keep more than 20k in cash? Right now everything is in indexes but I don't feel like I wanna sell everything.

>>19036434
>premarital
Lewd.

>>19036432
Interesting.

>>19036447
>my financial stocks that are making money but are battered are crabbing at best
>my meme tech holds that aren't making money but meme it away are mooning
Oh boy.

>>19036391
Triple double double VIX candle has strong contango support as the trend line converges on the medial axis

>>19036426
>>19036415

>>19036220
lox
lh2
basically gas.
and a bunch of bic lighters.
and aerospace stocks.

>>19036472
are there spaghetti waves oscillating over a bigger curve?

Really where the fuck is this money coming from?

>First bear market rally in 1929 lasted six months
cool, I'm going to buy SPY puts for after September

>>19036496
TINA is a slutty bitch that is world-travelling atm

>>19036496
rotation out of bonds, sideline cash getting put to work

>>19036496
unironically millennials

>>19035826
I did it. Nobody told me why I shouldn't.

>>19036496
Don't question anything right now, be a good goy and buy. (((They))) need a few more crab days with big sell offs to get rid of their bags. Then let the fun start.

>inbefore permabear
Sorry, not holding any puts, timing this event is ridicolous, but it will occur.

>He shorted Wayfair?

Pump it.

What 4 letter ticker is this?

The NDX still shoots up. It makes me go insane. Literally insane.

How tf do i enter into this long? Its madness.

>>19036496
Where else should it be? US is last resort.

>>19036269
>A Billion Dollar Day
Agreed, pretty comfy
>The Hustler
Need to check it out

>>19036299
>Trading places was comfy
So is The Big Short. Uncomfy but good /biz/: Margin Call (2011)

Will MSFT even fall though if there were another big dip?
It's so over bought but it's the safety play premium

>>19036564
You don't right now. Pullbacks make more sense, but now? No.

>>19036563
PNIS

>https://simplywall.st/
Anyone use this?

Alright guys. When do I take gains?

I bought in at .46. Anon says there was a whale that is going to dump by thursday. I'm trying to get out before that whale and definitely by thursday. Where is the ceiling?

I really liked holding this for long term but I think it's getting pumped and dumped by someone who is not on biz or reddit. It is getting bought and mooning for absolutely no reason and now I'm starting to see apple rumours so I want to drop it before it drops like mvis because of fake apple rumours.

>>19036564
This is what you get for listening to r*ddit and missing the bottom

>>19036610
It's fantastic for basic level research, the visualization is pretty decent too. It's a nice place to start.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Be honest, nobody here is constantly positive.

>>19036610
>>https://simplywall.st/
can't read, what does it say?

>>19036610
>>19036621
I've been using that also recently. I'm on my free trial, I might even pay for it after it lapses but I'm not sure what I'm using that is part of the paid versus free plan.

>>19036624
Their CEO was on Bloomberg last week and said there was no reason for the moon and he has no idea why the price is so high lol

>>19036633
>anyone posts their losers unless in the throes of despair from a really stupid play
I am currently hedging like 3 industries right now. It would be weird to not see red.

>>19036645
I think the smart CEOs are starting to do some damage control, because they know the market is so over valued. The ones who are up front about that beforehand are going to look better when things correct, and if they don't correct, they'll still look reasonable.

>>19036574
The Hustler also had a nice magazine they issued for a while. I wonder if you can get back issues somewhere.

Morning bull frens. Things are looking up from last night.

>>19036645
lmfao
Best CEO and best business plan ever

>>19036264
it was in March, you missed the bottom

Britbongs, why aren't you holding Just Eat Takeaway, Boohoo, and Ocado? I think they're the best tech stocks we have on the LSE.

>>19036434
Feels fucking good, brah.

>>19036645
literally some fucking giga machine pumping absolutely fucking everything
just search up some random ass ticker with no activity. like shit that didn't even dump in march. now it's pumping out of nowhere

>>19036624
>>19036645
>>19036656
>>19036668
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2020-05-06/hapag-lloyd-ceo-says-no-plans-to-do-any-significant-layoffs-video

from 1m30

Are Chinese stocks about to tank today?

>>19036680
To me personally that looks very risky.
I can see how they are overvalued as long as the crisis is active. Once good news start rolling in these stocks will drop. Hard.

>>19036633
I've been in the green since I started investing on April 5.

>>19036704
>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2020-05-06/hapag-lloyd-ceo-says-no-plans-to-do-any-significant-layoffs-video
WTF

>>19036706
Why would they?
>>19036680
US Tech is WORLD Tech. You waste your time with such frivolities.

>>19036264
I want to FOMO into cash so badly but I'm riding it out for now

>>19036535
(((they))) got out in mid-Feb because (((they))) are trying to torpedo Trump with these extended lockdowns

thing is, the useful voting bloc doesn't want to be locked down, they want to get back to work

Trump won't let this thing drag on through the summer into campaign season, no matter how much the mainstream media howls at the prodding of their (((paymasters)))

>>19036712
I don't think they will, take Boohoo for example. Even if Corona never happened, Boohoo will be easily be a bigger company than Next and Next currently has double the market cap. 100% gain should be easy.

>Americans wake up
>futures immediately go from straight line up to crab
ok

>>19036391
The bizbull and bizbear cope indicators. Bears are totally obliterated and bulls are nervous about not breaking the support ceiling. Thread volume is low. The rare cashposters continue to be smug as fuck.

>>19036731
FX fees feels like I'm getting shafted by a big black cock though, anon. Best to keep to your own imho.

>>19036759
Cash and crab are kings.

>>19036264
You had two chances this year, March 2 and April 19. Actually a lot of people missed the chances because they thought the market would collapse this year but the two crashes proved that US markets are almost resilient to anything. We survived in this pandemic, which means that the markets will be less likely to be affected in the future when a pandemic hits again.

>>19036706
SHEMITAH

>>19036777
What are you talking about anime retard? March 23rd was the bottom.

>>19036752
>Implying this meme virus isn't a cover for a overdue recession
>Falling for the herd mentality, that it's about the election

>Figured out pattern
>pattern goes against what I expected juuuust enough to trigger sl
>then goes exactly as expected

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>19036801
yeah sorry I forgot the 3

WHEN IS THE NEXT DIP I WANT TO DOLLAR COST AVERAGE MY WAY TO A MILLION

>>19036828
every fucking time for me

>>19036827
you have it backwards, it is 10000% about the election
the overdue recession and corona panic are the covers

>>19036671
Listen there you dumb zoomer cuck. Recessions don't last two months. They last years and there's always a huge rally before it falls off the cliff.

>>19036370
MGM is garbage

>>19036828
Your utilizing stop losses incorrectly, they aren't to stop you from losing money they're to stop you from going bankrupt.

>$20 to $200 in a month with no sign of stopping
I honestly think it will just go to infinity at this point. Who knew a furniture company was worth more than Microsoft?

>>19036882
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1958
>It was the most significant recession during the post-World War II boom between 1945 and 1970 and had a sharp economic decline that only lasted eight months.

Bullbros, what does it mean?

>>19036882
look kiddo, it's not a real recession, it's a govt induced recession, with a heavy govt financial incentive that won't LET IT go off the cliff

how many fucking times do you retards have to get BTFO by the Fed before you learn?

>fucking MARK
AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH my stop loss triggered yesterday and I never bought more fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

DontbuythetopDontbuythetopDontbuythetopDontbuythetop

>>19036828
listen to >>19036899
they're there only to stop tremendous losses from unforseen events

>>19036871
>Economy still limping by the time the election kicks in to overdrive.
>Record unemployment.
>"But look at those stocks. We've got great stocks! The best we've ever had!"
And you somehow think that large of a gap between Main Street and Wall Street is going to look good?

>>19036920
>Backstopping >10% unemployment for years.
Let's see how that works out. We've also been on the economic decline going into the next recessionary environment for two years now.

>>19036871
Seems like I can finally filter out another trip without having the fear of ever missing a high quality post.

Every time it gets shorter

>>19036899
>Your

>>19036905
Wayfair makes no fucking sense. What is actually going on with this stock

>>19036912
cherry picking recessions, drop the one from 1920's to 1930's

>>19036953
English is hard.

>>19036905
How is it worth more than Microsoft? Please don't say because the price of a share is higher.

>>19036967
It isn't, he doesn't understand how shares work.

Time to BRK.B? Or can we go lower?

>>19036905
>>19036961
Tulip bulbs.

>>19036964
You're the one who is cherry picking unrelated market behaviour. Here's what happened during the Spanish flu.

>>19036905
>share price means value

>>19036893
PENT
UP
DEMAND

>>19036982
*and Eisenhower recession occured during the 1957-58 flu pandemic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957%E2%80%931958_influenza_pandemic

>>19036981

>>19036982
It doesn't matter what you pick, everything has a second leg down and we are still in a text book bear market until we break through 2950.

This v-shape recovery was already proven to be fake and gay. Market makers will decide when they are ready to let the shitshow unfold.

>>19036951
Recovery time of one of the greatest economical damage:
>4 weeks.

Next one:
>1day

>>19036871
Not sure, what to say...keep lurking more and try a few redpills.

>>19036982
I can bet a 100, that there were more bullish factors 1918 than now

>>19036882
lmao screencapped

>>19036981
It doesn't dven beat the index these days, nevermind kick a dividend. The old man lost his touch. Buy it over VOO if you hate money.

I want to buy MSFT before they release the new xbox. When do I buy in

>>19037021
There were no tech stock tulip bulbs then and that's what is pushing the indices up. Rail road stocks were the tech socks of the 19th century.
Banks and REITs are still crabbing.

>>19036998
pent up demand + new normal = media has braindamage

>>19036951

>>19036882
Recessions do not have a fixed time-table. We might even see a week long recession depending on the economic climate.

>>19037039
I already long VOO. I'm just talking BRK.B for a quick flip.

>>19037065
in the future*

>>19037040
Now. MSFT only go up next 50 years. Even the Wuflu make it drop 25% for a few weeks and now it's going for ATHs.

>>19037020
>Recovery time of one of the greatest economical damage:
You need to be on a Spanish soap opera. You act like all agriculture, industry, technology, and resources where destroyed overnight and we are living in Dr. Stone.

Here's sort of what's happening with tech stocks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_Mania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Mania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble
...except that most of the companies this time aren't frauds unlike in those bubbles.

This is madness!

>>19037069
I wouldn't touch that company with a 50 foot pole for a lot of reasons. Casinos and oil and cruise lines will get you more faster rn. Idk your horizon but they will all see at least +20% over the next few weeks.

>>19037103
>madness
?

>>19037101
>that most of the companies this time aren't frauds unlike in those bubbles.
Tesla, Uber, SPCE, and Zoom could straight up be transplanted in the Dot-com bubble and be right at home

>>19037041
yeah, I agree, but during that time women started to participate in the workforce and consumption exploded, I guess

>>19037103
Where are the retarded put buyers, SQQQ shills and the TVIX guy?

>ctrl f
>TVIX
>0 results.

Did that kid neck himself?

whoa whoa whoa how'd you niggers find out about my trailer park reits

>>19037079
Thanks

>missed the bottom

>>19037095
I am trying my best anon, thanks for the feedback.

You act like nothing happened and we are back to normal.

>>19037123

tvix guy im looking for you !

https://twitter.com/realwillmeade/status/1260184106983477250

>>19037095
The problem is 60-70% of the economy is consumer spending. If people aren’t out buying shit money doesn’t move around. If money doesn’t move around corporations don’t make profits. If corporations don’t make profits stocks are just a game of musical chairs.

Also, agriculture is little more fucked because you’re dependent on the planting schedule and cheap immigrant labor.

>>19037065
What the fuck am I reading?
>The NBER defines a recession as a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.

>>19037095
>More jobs lost than created over over a decade.
>Government expects unemployment near 10% for at least two years. Same time span for losses in productivity to recover.
>Not a problem.

>>19037147
guessing they've already been front-run, wouldn't surprise me to see them just crab

Wow today’s green af boiii

>>19037123
TVIX guy is probably still butthurt that I called him a fucking idiot for buying TVIX in his Roth IRA

>>19037156
Yeah. The Fed had to verbally re-commit to those purchases because the front-runners were getting impatient.

>>19037151

There is still plenty of consumer spending and in 2 months everyone will go back to work and the economy just starts running again. Its just a temporary exogenous shock, which is far less of a problem than if we had endured a endogenous shock like in 2008.

>>19037151
another one of those guys who think they figured out the whole economy all by themselves in their dark room by thinking about it.

Opinion discarded.

I keep it simple, non-shit stocks gow low > i buy

>>19037174
Alright bros, 4chan needs to make its own ETF filled with trash so JPOW buys us out.
What trash do we use to fill this ETF?

>>19037154
>More jobs lost than created over over a decade.

At least half these jobs can just go back to work after the lockdown ends.

>>19037198
>Government expects unemployment near 10% for at least two years.
Did you gloss over that?

https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor/dix?

i dont understand this

>>19037147
Also, if you want to know what has been going on with DIS, AAPL, or GE:
https://www.barrons.com/articles/switzerlands-central-bank-bought-apple-ge-and-disney-stock-aurora-marijuana-51588965557

>>19037198
Yeah? To the dead businesses that use to employ them?

>>19037184
Na, I just read Wikipedia

>>19037190
Remember that time when biz bought a tanker and got paid to stock oil?

where my $CODX bulls at?

>>19037184
I'm a bull, but not delusional. You think does millions of retail, airline, hospitality jobs are coming back? The rest of the world is even more fucked, that's why all the money is/will heading to USA equities.But no one actually knows what will happen.

>>19037185
>>19037230
Wrong link

>USAC up bigly
>ET also going back up after earnings

I'm happy but this is happening very fast. Shit's going to be back to a "normal" div rate in a few months. I want to buy more!

>>19037208

>Rate went up with 10 percent points to 14%
>half of those will go back to work
>So that leaves 9%
>Near 10%

Do you know basic math?

how do perma bears even make money?
I've been bearish the past two weeks and lost all the gains I made the past month

>>19036759
>making a reference to the Bogs' PhD theses
Very nice.

that thing you're thinking about? yeah it's priced in

>>19037198
I agree

Some businesses will have folded but a huge chunk of these people will be able to go back to work for whatever large businesses they worked for.

>>19037208
>>19037226
I expect after this ends, the government will probably pass another stimulus package that will target disenfranchised business owners allowing for low interest business loans to restart a business

Just my know-nothing speculation obviously

We'll still definitely feel some effects of higher unemployment for a long time though

>>19037226
No to the new amazon stores that will be replacing all the lost businesses

(which is bullish btw)

>>19037110
OK I'll buy

>>19037226

If there is a demand for business then new businesses will pop up, and we all know there is plenty of capital available to finance them.

>>19037246
>You think does millions of retail, airline, hospitality jobs are coming back?

Yes, since demand for them will come back.After this virus everyone will want to go on those vacations they can't go on now, and the market will abide and supply them.

>>19037095
It's a cascade. PCE is down, a lot, tangibly, even '08 was a cute little bump, we've doubled that. Consumer and commercial debt are through the roof. So now you've got drying up unemployment benefits, and an absurd unemployment rate, PCE powder disappearing. Credit is harder to find as well, so PCE is going to plummet even further.

What does this mean? Consumer confidence is shot. That means people will not spend for some time. That means the people at the supply end of that transaction are going to lose on income. That means maintained layoffs (or more layoffs). This cascades into their suppliers, into the banks, into the shareholders.

>>19037253
Even Mnuchin admitted those numbers are wrong.

>>19036316
Unless my math is jank, that comes out to 3400 a year. Gonna need a lot more than 1000 shares to live comfy. Energy transfer otoh is paying a 16% divvy with a 7.67 buy in. So the same money would get you 7210/year. And if et goes up when oil rebounds, I could see that possibly doubling, or damn near.

>>19037288
sure, because everyones salary won't be lower from all the cheap labor available

>>19036359
Big boi here, we’re all buying.

can oil do fucking SOMETHING holy shit what is this fucking eternal crabbing

>>19037296
You don't actually believe dividends are determined by the company as a percentage of share price, right?

>>19037143
Holy shit bears are literally seething.

>>19037269
It's dystopian, but I guess that's another word for bullish at this point.

>>19037304
>can oil do fucking SOMETHING holy shit what is this fucking eternal crabbing
Don't be hasty, oil is a long term high reward investment. Be glad you'll have more time to buy the bottom.

>>19037214
don't need to, all the data is bogus, because they know people are watching

>>19037300

Who cares about poor people?

Barry's Red Cola

>>19037253
Read this and see what influences our policy makers are under when making decisions.
http://archive.is/jKYEK

>>19037268
Were you paying attention to the first round of SBA loans when they went out? There were hundreds of thousands of applications, with less than a 10% acceptance rate initially if we take JPM's data to be accurate.

>>19037294
This.

PENT
UP
DEMAND

>>19037337
I'm talking about high earners - high spenders, IT, MGMT, I have a feeling that the poor ones will be the east affected

>>19037288
You lack normalfag perspective. They're all terrified of this virus. It doesn't matter if that terror is justified or not. Cruises are dead. Airlines are dead. Cinema is dead. Huge cattle ranches like Disney parks are dead. The consumer will demand something else, and the market will have to pivot. Pivoting takes time, and there's no guarantee that the same number of jobs will be required.

>>19037337
The economy that depends on them?

Who else has been riding the Moderna wave? I got in at $17

>>19036210
>he thinks the next depression isn’t around the corner and is fully invested in stonks with no guns and ammo or training

>>19037358
>They're all terrified of this virus
Yeah, that's why they were protesting the other day to re-open, totally terrified.

>>19037358
>muh pivot
fuck off, queerbait

>>19037395
Probably one of the most hilarious things from all this

Looks like more crabbing today. Just move somewhere already.

>>19037354
>>19037354
>There were hundreds of thousands of applications, with less than a 10% acceptance rate initially if we take JPM's data to be accurate.
Are you talking about PPP loans?

I'd like to see the source on that

>>19037251
>7% up from after hours trading
Guess that's what I get for waiting until business hours to buy in.
That 23% div tho.

>>19037358

Normies are consoomers and they want to consoome and they will do so en masse as soon as they are allowed to.

Are we just going to crab for the next month?

>>19037395
>doesn't know what SAMPLE SIZE means
GL

>>19037395
The tiny bubble you're listening to doesn't represent the majority. People want some basic services back, they don't want to book a flight to Florida to get on a cruise ship and stop at Universal Studios on the way home.

the blackest of blackpills

>>19037436

So who are you listening to? Sounds like you're just making this shit up. What source do you have?

>>19036215
Unironically, yes

>>19036614
>before it drops like mvis
>he doesnt know

Anon, I...

>>19037413
Here, from Bloomberg. Highlights:
http://archive.is/dl2P7

>More than 300,000 customers of JPMorgan’s business banking unit, which serves smaller firms, applied for loans through the Paycheck Protection Program, part of the $2 trillion Cares Act that Congress adopted in late March. About 18,000 were funded, for a 6% success rate.

>By comparison, about 5,500 larger, and sometimes more sophisticated, customers of the commercial banking business applied for funding. Nearly all of them got loans, according to the bank’s data.

>JPMorgan said it ultimately provided 26,500 loans to small businesses through both its commercial and small-business units. More than 60% of those went to companies with fewer than 25 employees, the bank said.

>In an email to clients, a JPMorgan executive said the bank unit that serves smaller firms received applications from more than 75,000 clients in the program’s first hour on April 3, and that the number grew significantly the following days.

>>19037461
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/496593-trump-hits-serious-headwinds-in-polls-on-covid-19-reopening
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/americans-deeply-wary-of-reopening-as-white-house-weighs-ending-covid-19-task-force/2020/05/05/d2efcbbe-8eec-11ea-9e23-6914ee410a5f_story.html
https://ktla.com/news/exclusive-poll-many-not-ready-to-return-to-restaurants-gyms-during-covid-19-pandemic/
It's all pent up. Like the most epic consumer edging of all time.

Anyone going to be keeping an eye on corporate bond ETFs today since the FED is going to start buying them?

>>19037481
Interesting

In the greater context the approval numbers didn't matter anyways because the funds were exhausted. I wonder if that's why it's so low on approval, because the money ran out so fast on that first round

I still suspect Republicans will continue to push for more stimulus packages for small businesses

>>19037461
>>19037514
I dunno about you guys but as someone in one of the states that's reopening slowly, when I went out yesterday it was like absolutely nothing had happened. Everywhere was fucking packed with cars.

People here have been antsy as fuck to get back out.

It's probably different in other places, I guess.

>>19036893
Mgm is a drug dealer. can you imagine what happens if theres only 3 drug dealers in town and all three go to jail at the same time. the junkies would lose their fucking minds. now imagine what happens when all 3 get parole at same time.

and do you think crackheads give a shit about getting sick. they already are sick.

tldr-- when casinos reopen its gonna be like the 80s crack epidemic for gamblers

>>19037564
>one of the states that's reopening slowly, when I went out yesterday it was like absolutely nothing had happened. Everywhere was fucking packed with cars
Allegedly TX isn't doing well according to Cuban. Thanks for the report. In NJ it seems like a township to township thing. certain areas are open and operating business as almost usual, other areas are just shuttered.

>>19037461
The actual news, retard.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/308264/americans-remain-risk-averse-getting-back-normal.aspx
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/05/when-will-travel-resume-after-coronavirus.html

SVYSF for those swing traders

>>19037564
>In the greater context the approval numbers didn't matter anyways because the funds were exhausted.
The point being made was more so the sheer number of applicants. The refill of the SBA program essentially doubled the funding, i.e., by another $300+ billion. So, if we take similar results, in two rounds of fiscal stimulus totaling more than $600 billion, only 20% of businesses in need would have been provided assistance. Do you see the mounting problem here?

>Gap down at open and crab up until close for another big boy sell off
Easy money.

>>19037399
Have you already been psy-op'd by CNN? Those are completely different demographics, preppers obviously dont give a shit one way or the other about "reopening".

>>19037564
>when I went out yesterday it was like absolutely nothing had happened. Everywhere was fucking packed with cars.
There is a strong split in sentiment along party lines. Are you in a heavily red area?

>bers

>He is betting against America
>He is betting against te US gouvernment, the Fed and US corporations and banks manipulating the market
>He thinks reality has anything to do with stocks by now
Cant make this shit up kek

>>19037588

What I'm reading is that only 10% wants to stay inside. The rest will immediately go back to normal or do so once they notice you can safely do that.

Nowhere in those links do i read anything that backs up the claim that
>the majority of americans are terrified of the virus

>>19037296
>falling for a classic yield trap
ngmi

>>19037562
Might be interesting to watch, but I would be willing to wager that if you wanted to buy, it would have been best done weeks ago with the initial announcements, like all of the other front-runners.

>>19037564
>I dunno about you guys but as someone in one of the states that's reopening slowly, when I went out yesterday it was like absolutely nothing had happened. Everywhere was fucking packed with cars.
Good anecdote. Polls though.

>>19037190
CSCO RTX HAL

>>19037623
I think you're also forgetting that not everyone who applies needs the money.

I don't know how in-tune you are with the small business world, but the overwhelming resounding call from everyone has been "even if you don't need the money, apply just in case".

I would suspect a huge chunk of the people that applied will have their businesses float without much danger, even if that did mean laying off some employees during the pandemic

For what it's worth I'm not disagreeing with you that we're going to feel the effects of this, but I think saying "only 6% of business got funded, so 94% will collapse" is a little disingenuous

>>19037638
Yes. But it was a fuck ton of ethnic minorities I saw out as well; people that are most likely blue voters. It was a pretty good mix so I don't think the reality is that blue voters are sitting at home and red voters are out. That's what the news would have you believe, though.

It's not that nothing is different, stores still have occupancy limits and most people are wearing masks and maybe gloves, and there's crazy amounts of constant sanitation at every store I've been to, but otherwise it's fairly normal.

>>19037190
tanker fags RTX, airlines and BA

>>19037660
Different anon here but I noticed something funny, two camps of normies, those they always bragged about not fearing death are the most terrified 9f the virus and those at first thay were scared of everything are already the ones sneaking out to hang with friends and ignoring all safety measures.

>>19037638
>party lines
you know how many niggers are out with no mask doing fuck all?

SHOULD I BUY A PUT AT OPEN ? JUST A QUICKY BIZ

Less than 2 minutes to open boys, how will it go?

>>19037451
I've got a spare $500, can't pattern day trade so I'll try buying one at Monday close, selling at Wednesday Open, Buying at Wednesday close, selling at Friday open. Just to see what happens with it, If it makes enough that we are at x2.15 purchase price I'll buy two and so on and so forth.

BAHAHAHAHA TVIX KID AINT GOING TO MAKE IT

>>19037705
Wayfair puts all the way

>>19037709
up

>>19037709
Pump, then dump, then crab.
All the action is outside market hours. Expect a CRAWLLLLLLLLLLLL at ~11

>>19037681
Literally just go outside.

>>19037709
down.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>19037695
>a fuck ton of ethnic minorities
This adds up.

>>19037704
Niggers have negative economic worth. Market sell immediately.

>>19037742
Literally just do that for everyone in the US and you have a poll!
>>19037728
It is tech and thus it is worthy of buying forever.

>>19037112
THIS IS SPARTA!!!

>>19037703
>those they always bragged about not fearing death
What kind of weirdos do you hang out with that you had multiple people fitting this description?

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH

Oh my god W is going to get me margin called.

>>19037762
>muh polls
fuck off

>>19037789
>shorting a clearly manipulated stock
Dumbass

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WTF

OH NO XOM BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>19037762
Cut out the middle man, you too can have an instant status report. No need for big brother to tell you what to think!

aaaand tumbling down

>>19037695
>Only 6% of businesses got funded, so 94% will collapse.
I don't think anyone in this thread has said that. I'd wager the reason small businesses are being told to apply irrespective of need is because of the longer term demand shocks for certain sectors that are being expected, as >>19037294 pointed out. Nobody knows how it's going to play out, but there's a lot of over-preparing going on right now just in case things end up going poorly.

>>19037809
WHAT DID YOU DO?????

>>19037819
Mostly the same as the last few weeks

>>19037823
That's sensible and I agree

>>19036961
>>19037728
>>19037789

see

>>19036537

B O G G E D

TECH STOCKS ARE FALLING AAAAAAAAA

>tfw you added to your SDS position at open

OH NO NO NO NO
BULLBROS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>19037847
Today, like all days, is a day for king crab. All must be bogged. All must see red.

HTZ on a moon mission boiiiis

How long does it usually take for Schwab to withdraw money from a bank account?

FUCKING TSLA
WHY WHO IS PUMPING THIS GARBAGE

Damn, I knew NNVC would moon one of these days. Have been watching it since February.

good morning bros, didn't get enough sleep last night, hang on lemme finish my cuppa


good to see Bobo continuing to lose that's good

I don't want much, I just want to buy a home without a mortgage and have a 100k stock portfolio.

It'll take forever ;_;

>>19037866
I'm going to buy some SPXL at close.

You kept MARK, right anon....?

TVIX BROS HODL
SQQQOLDIERS HODL THE LINE

>>19037804
I really thought all the fuel was burned out on this shit yesterday, but that opening pump brought me within $200 of a margin call so I liquidated a portion of my position at a (fairly small) loss.

This shit is so absurd.

>>19037879
You could move to Oklahoma or Kansas or some shit.

>>19037884
I sold when it started to dip and stagnate a bit last week. Why am I so dumb

PPL
ENB
CTC.A
Final destination: Moon.

>>19037894
I've got no choice but to hold this late

Told you another day, another crab. When will the big boys be ready and burst the shit out of all the retarded retail investors?

>>19037879
if you're not on the east or west coast, and have a job that isn't mcdonalds, this is totally doable

>>19037894
you are unironically mentally ill lmao

>>19037657
I love this manga, it's very cute. I hope it continues for a long time.

>>19037879
It should take 3 years quit being a lazy millennial

>>19037884
holy fuck

Wayfair is being manipulated but the question is why

>>19037938
>he thinks it's just one person

>>19037881
You know what's going to happen as soon as you try to follow the trend?
>krab et

>>19037358
Exactly. Some county officials in California relaxed mask laws and opened beaches, yet still I hear "no way am I going to the beach" or "thats stupid to relax the mask guidelines". I'm just like NOW you don't want to listen to these same county officials you praised? It's madness in normieworld

>>19036426
based.

>>19037308
Of course they are. Why wouldnt they be.

>>19037967
that's exactly what I'm playing. >>19037451
We've confirmed this for a week and a half. I'll remain weighted bear, but I'll cover my ass for the green overnights. It's my way around the 25k barrier.

I’m really starting to think that shorting the s&p on open is a winning strategy. It always goes down in the first minutes

Short NET thank me later.

>>19037846
Bullish because because money goes to non tech

>>19037938
Look at this retarded SQQQ bagholding, put buying schizo.

>nothing to buy

>>19038020
Except for the times it doesn’t

I KNEW my patient would reward me

>>19037399
>can survive as a last resort =/= being forced to survive because some chickenshit bureaucrats are scared of the flu

Resistance at some arbitrary number for no fundamental financial reason just it's nice and round in our decimal system.

Humans are a meme.

damn what the fuck was that...

>>19037964
what is an image hash lmao

>>19038020
I am doing that right now. Further i am buying calls at the bottom after the first dip because in majority of the times we pump through out the day.

Risk Management is very important...never all in

>>19038074
Snib snap crab attack

Thanks to the anon that shilled GAME on TXSV a few weeks ago, up 22% overall.

>>19038022
why?

>>19037964
wtf is this real?

>>19038077
Yeah don't waste your money on that today.

>>19038042
I think you win over time over all simply because shorts open there, however few there might be.
Gap investing is actually fairly good returns since its formulaic its just boring and tedious.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT????

>tfw you bought on dump day

>Bought TZA at open
Easiest fucking money. Crab is truly king.

>>19038042
>>19038124
Exactly this. It is boring as fuck, but as long as you won the majority of your trades, all good. See you in 6hours. That's it for today again. Snib snab crab attack

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH ITS ALL RED WHY GOD WHY???

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>19038138
Kek, same. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>19038076
You do know people can save images from here and use them?

>>19038157
It'll finish green, anon. Fed and Fomo got your back.

WHY ARE WE DUMPING

>>19037123
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN

TUMBLING DOWN
>>19038183
fuck off newfag

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

>>19038055
Divvy coming up may 19th too. we bout to get paiiddddd brooooo.

fake dump

>>19038194
Why not? Also, because the sawtooth waveform wouldn't be complete without a drop today.

The Fed bought SDOW, SPXS, and SQQQ! What a twist!

BOUGHT PUTS AT OPENING, FUCK YOU JEROME

>>19038073
self fulfilling prophecy, stop losses at "nice numbers", etc
there was some good like book or whatever about this shit. the whole situation is really silly

DJIA HOOOOOLD THE LIIIIIINE

fucking hell this is boring. just tank or boom damnit

>>19038205
Been here since late 2004, sorry your puts are getting on so heavy. Of course you can't into randomized names I use vs the rest in your pictures.

SPXL MUHREEEEEEEEENS!!!!!!
HOOOOOOLDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>19038265

>>19038265 >>19038265

>>19038265 >>19038265

>>19038265

MRO's on fire..

>>19038266
>/biz/
>2004
top kek fuck off newfag

>>19038211
>repeating artists
completely unbased

>>19038292
I'm taking about 4chan you fucking retard, you know what this site was until you came along with hiro.

>>19038327
A honeypot, just less public.

NO NOT MY PUTERINOS NOT THE SHORT SHORTS!!!!!

>>19038231
i just sold my spxs
was this dumb?

where do you guys do your DD? I'm looking for good information hubs

Thoughts on Planet Fitness (PLNT)?

>>19038517
too rich for my blood but worth
look how many people started running or jogging or looking at their health during this. PF will look like new years day when they open

>>19038581
I can see the gym rush happening, but if this goes until fall I think societal standards are gonna shift. So many peiple are complaining about weight gain and no summer to show it off is enough for these people to give up. Just fat lemmings.

>>19038581
Thanks for the input. Need validation on hunches sometimes.

jnug is bae