/biz/ - Business & Finance

Military
>in any country but 'Murica

>don't take up too much time
>60 hours a week
Anything more than 30 hours is too much time. If you work more than 30 hours and don't have fun at your job, they you are wasting your life.

>>188517
Come to think of it, this. I guess 50 hours tops.

Possibly a repair technician on some type of expensive technical machine. I have a friend who did better than that with Xerox (after he worked his way up to fixing the BIG machines). I'd bet printing press repair guy, X-ray repair guys, etc. can do that well.

>>188562
paintless dent repair
>easy to learn
>limited # of tools and startup capital
>insurance jobs (especially after hail storms)
>car dealers
>takes very little time to perform
>decent amount of money per dent to be made

I'm not sure if this fits exactly in your criteria regarding manual labor, but motherfucking welding is where it's at. Even in the U.S, there's more welding jobs opening up, and as long as you can pull off some trick welds to get past the initial evaluation, you're golden. No schooling required, you only need some skill and know-how. I'm going to community college, which I know it sucks, but I'm getting paid to go to school via Pell Grant, and I get certified with some welding experience on the resume.
One-Man-Buisness potential: Sky high nigga. If you can weld aluminum, or even repair cast iron, you can make a living by opening a welding shop.
Welding jobs pay at the extreme least $15 an hour because loltradeskillzz. If you get a job with a production shop, you can work inside all day welding the same shit, or a maintenance job, fixing shit, usually indoors for a buisness/school. Then there's oilfield work, which pays good, but it's the worst because Oilfield workers are the biggest cocksuckers on the goddamn planet. Enjoy working in the fucking elements all day with retards. Pic related:mfw I see an oilfield worker.
>Cont.

>>188625
>>decent amount of money per dent to be made
How much?

>>188637
>I'm getting paid to go to school via Pell Grant
How? How much? How get?

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/07/25/50-jobs-over-50000-without-a-degree-part-1/
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/08/05/50-jobs-over-50000-without-a-degree-part-2/

>>188646
>TFW I read about Mr. Moneymoustache months ago on Forbes.

>>188648
Then why you asking nigga?

>>188637
If you're making $15 an hour, you won't need to work 40-60 hours a week. Yeah, your boss might not be thrilled by your lack of initiative, but if you passed that weld test, you might be enough of an asset to hold onto. Welding jobs also have two major things going for them in /biz/ terms.
Union:Welders have a union to themselves, and the union even has a presence in motherfucking Texas, which is one of the least union-friendly states in the U.S. Union workers get paid twice as much for half the work. No shit. Texans might not like you because of it, but you're rolling in dosh, for fucks sake. They're jelly.
Second, it's one of the few jobs left where you can be paid in straight cash. I worked for three years in a welding shop next to a motorcycle shop, and when I was hired, I asked the boss if it was okay if I took $13 an hour cash, instead of $15 check. For some this is a bad idea, but I spend my cash, and don't let the government dole it out to black and white trash.

>>188651
>Implying I read that particular article and not just the article about him on Forbes.

>>188645
The pell grant takes into consideration what fiscal situation the applicant is in. I'm a poorfag, who goes to college only for welding classes, with no room or board. Welding classes cost $1600, with everything including books paid for. The Pell grant gave me ~$2500, plus it threw another $300 scholarship at me because of me being a poorfag with a car.

>>188654
>$13 an hour cash, instead of $15 check
That should be $16 an hour cash instead of $15 per hour check. No way should you take $2 less.

>>188654
>don't let the government dole it out to black and white trash.

Actually the vast majority of tax money goes to defense spending. Behind that I believe is healthcare. All other sections of the United States' federal budget only cover something like 15-20% of the total.

>>188662
It's how it's done around here. My father did it, and my brothers did it. It's easier for them to use cash, but it's also really discouraged because of white trash spending money on crack/meth. Even though my boss knew I wasn't a methhead(You learn to tell around here) I still took less. Also, I was 19 at the time, an was terrified of doing taxes and shit.

>>188671
You're right, anon, but seeing any portion of my money go to that big black asshole and his twelve baby mommas across the street sickens me. I'd rather make less and hurt my fiscal future by receiving and spending only cash, than live comfier. I do it out of spite. It's what the Imperial Faith has taught me.

>>188684
This is now a welding thread:
The reason jobs are opening up is because the old welders are dying. There's a gap, because welding is frowned upon as "menial" "demeaning" "low-class" and as such there were generations who decided to deny the great boon that is a welding job. Now, with more pipelines and oilfields opening up in the U.S, and the harvesting of raw materials, welders are not only in demand because of their low numbers, but because of WHAT THEY DO.
"What does a welder do, anon?"
Fucking. Everything.
Welding is the process of joining two objects. That's the definition. Try building something that's too big to be held up by fucking nails, and you need a welder.
"What about rivets, anon?"
WHAT ABOUT THEM. Rivets are nothing compared to the glory of welding. Rivets need holes to go into, thereby weakening the joined part. In comparison, welds STRENGTHEN THE METAL. If you rip/bend a piece of welded metal, the metal will break before the actual weld.
You sold on this yet, OP?
No?
SO BE IT.
Cont.

>>188709
Welds are cheap as fuck. A brand new, top of the line welder can be had for $10,000. You can get a used welding machine that's good enough for holding a job for $2,000. A cheap, immobile welder for the shop? 200 bucks and you canget the welding machine, leads, and a box of welding rods/electrodes(or 'trodes, as we in the /biz/ call them).
With your welding machine, using the ultra cheap, ultra effective SMAW(Stick welding) process, you can weld mild steel, cast iron, aluminum, and more exotic metals like titanium. If you learn how to weld these metals, (which is easy, all you do is switch the rod to one made for aluminum, and maybe adjust the amperage) You now have a unique and highly in demand skillset. Here's some stats, because /biz/ loves numbers. These apply only in the U.S.
Min. Wage:~7.25 an hour.
Welder's Min. Wage:15 an hour.
Welder's normal wage: $25 an hour.
Pipeliner/Oilfield wage:40-60 an hour
Underwater welder's Min. Wage:70 an hour.
Alaska: Alaska is a glorious state for welders. There are more than a few welders making over $100 an hour on pipeline shit in Alaska.

>>188722
Why do welder's make so much dosh?
-There aren't many of us.
-What we do is essential. This isn't like McDonalds.
-Welders have an innate knowledge of metallurgy, temperature, chemistry, and a decent amount of math. With these skills, a welder can go into many other fields, like engineering and shit.
-Welders don't complain. They don't need to. You don't pay them, they leave, or the welds will break, or they'll start wasting materials.
-Welders can be used anywhere. We're trained in both Standard and Metric measurements, and how to convert them accurately. A welder can find a job across the world.
Now what are the cons of being a welder?
>Cont.

>>188737
The cons of being a welder:
One con is the cons: there are many ex-convicts in the welding biz. Welding is a trade taught in many prisons, and it's not really a service industry, so it's okay to hire them. It's not okay to work next to fucking Molesty McGee.
-The people who aren't convicts are assholes. This is a general statement, but it's true. There is no other field of work that caters to assholes like the welding industry, except maybe retail. I think it's a combo of the elitism that comes from a trade job, and also having more income than everyone else. You should see the dumb shit they buy. Expensive sunglasses they can't wear, fur coats for their whore wives, and the amount spent on lift kits is staggering.
-Whores: You'll never know if a woman loves you or your wallet if you work in a place with an abundance of welders. Dumb, fat, trailer trash flock to welding areas because of this.
-Meth/Crack: Drugs are a problem, as there is little oversight. You're given an assignment, and expected to do it with no help or supervision. They screen for drugs and alcohol once, but after that, well, as the blacks say, sheeeit.
Questions?

>>188709
>implying anything other than electrician work is the best construction job

Work indoors, screw in wiring boxes. The hardest part of an electrician's job is a wirepull, and that shit ain't too hard.

>>188750
Yes, I'm a teen female, should I still pursue this job?
where do i start?

>>188750

so welding is basically like rapping?

>>188754
Females should definitely consider a welding job. It's proven that they're slightly better at it because of their steady hands, patience, and attention to detail. They keep an eye out for women.
Look up welding jobs via Craigslist(Yeah I know, but there are a lot of trade jobs to be found on CL)If you don;t qualify for any of them, take some classes. They're usually cheap. Also, you may want to speak to the boss/whoever in person, as it costs them nothing to give you a chance in the long run, and they sometimes raise the standards a little too high to weed out sissies.

>>188767
With more retards/rednecks, yes.

>>188768
Classes @ a community college works, yes?

These kind of threads make me wish we had the Austrailian minimum wage

>>188773
For a general certification, yes. A cert. you get from a college lets them know you can weld, cut, and handle metal. There are other certs that are specific to whatever job you'll be doing, but they're normally taught during an orientation period. I'm talking about you having to use a certain electrode, at a certain angle, on a certain amperage, on only certain approved joints. You're tested on these on the job, usually after following a full welder around for a while.

>>188755
I'm actually interested in electrician work myself, any advice?

>>188777
Isn't that shit like $15 an hour? That's fucking insane.

Bread must cost like $8 there

Sales job, if you can handle someone saying No thanks 80% of the time.

>>188750
That's hilarious. But not uncommon. Trade jobs in general get paid a shit-tonne where I'm from. I have one question though - Are there many prejudices against certain types of people? E.G. If you look too feeble, you look like your'e a woman, you're not white, you're not the type to drink beer and have a beer gut and watch the game. I ask because where I'm from, I could almost never get a trade job due to race - those in the industry are all quite the same when it comes to the type of person they are.

>>188709
What about that whole ruining your eyes for the rest of your life thing? Or inhaling toxic fumes from mixed metals for 8+ hours a day?
Not trolling, but this job does have health risk... not to mention it is blatantly labor intensive. You cant be a faggot and do this work.

>2.93

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Australia

Fuck me, that's excellent.

>>188805
replying to >>188790

>>188789
Get in with the union in a city where there's construction going on, ideally in a tech-savvy city like San Francisco. There's lots of work at the moment, and usually you can find side jobs as well.

>>188798
Welders come from all walks of life. We get women, dudes straight from high school, plenty of Mexicans, blacks, an other minorities. I've seen black kids with their pants around their ankles run overhead welds no problem. I've worked next to Hawaiians(They're quiet) Mexicans(Mellow) Blacks(Loud, but funny I guess) I've worked next to a Native American dude who was 80 years old. Never said a fucking word. TL;DR, welding is OK for minorities.
>>188799
That doesn't happen much nowadays. OSHA, ANSI, AWS all have standards that must be met. Gasses can't accumulate in harmful doses, so they're usually sucked and filtered outside, or you're outside, in which case you're good. Also, with the advent of auto-darkening helmets, getting flashed isn't really common. If it's unsafe, there's probably a safety regulation that's being broken.

>>188819
Good night,/biz/.

>>188637
Welding is definitely manual labor. Its not as easy to get into as people think either. Kids are going to college for it. Unions are keeping non-legacy people out right now. I highly doubt an uneducated, unconnected person could walk in and start a welding job for more than $10/hr. if at all.

holy shit im so glad this turned into a welding thread

help welders of /biz/. i need a job bad, i'm running out of money and time and I don't know what the fuck to do. i've put in an apprenticeship application for the local boilermakers union and i plan on putting in an application for the piledriver/carpenters union since my instructor said people who know how to weld for them to nothing but welding.

>>188504

Sounds retarded, but the best money/time spent earning it was being a windowcleaner. Yeah, I know it's looked down upon, but when you can easily make a grand a week working 4-6 hours a day, in your own time, it's hard to knock. Also only requires the ability to drive a car (debatable, really, but depends on your round).

An example of how to do it:

>Get a round of 400-600 houses
>Aim to do 100 a week, usually a tenner a time (britbong speaking)
>That's twenty a day
>Most small houses take 15-20 minutes
>On this, you can usually do 3-4 an hour (and at 10 pound a pop, that's pretty good).
>Start at 8 in the morning, and finish by 1-2 in the afternoon
>60% pay by cash, the rest is by check
>£1,000 a week
>Only real payouts are your car (if your round takes you all over the place, a real necessity if you have 400-600 houses as I advise).
>As most people don't want to have their windows washed once a week, the 400-600 will make sure you have enough for 4-6 weeks, before the cycle starts again.

>Initial investment (assuming you have a car): £100

As a side job for the summer, you can become a wasp killer, and easily charge up to £30 per house, plus an extra £10 per nest on the house. This costs an awful lot, though, so don't expect to have such a high return.

>tfw I used to do this for a living for two years, making £1000+ a week, but got a "real" job at the behest of family and friends, and now I'm lucky to rake in £200 a week, in that "God-blessed" field of engineering.

The easy life is window cleaning, boys.

>>188878
i tried applying to some powerwashing window washing business before, got an interview but they never called back, assholes.

>>188790
Bread loaves costs from 5-9 dollars, yes.

>>188654
>makes $13 an hour
>thinks hes paying income tax

lol

>>188750
welding is beta as shit. bunch of sensitive artist types who get their feelings hurt if you point out one bad weld in an impossible to reach area. so easy to mess with welders its almost not even fun.

>>188898
Well seeing as how one bad weld is the difference between being certified or not, a bad weld is a pretty big fucking deal

>>188881

>Applying for some business when it comes to window cleaning.

You're an idiot, and I mean that in the nicest way.

Start it up yourself. You don't even need a car if you start out small. What you'll need is:

>30-60 feet ladder, I went for 50 feet for £85
>Wiper blade, £4 from any simple shop, even the home use ones will do.
>A rolling mop, which is about £5
>Bucket, steal that from somewhere, no-one will miss it
>milk-carton crate, again, thieve it or just ask for one from the local shops, they'll give you one.

Then just hit the streets, preferably where you live. Most people will say yes, but say "I'll pay you £7 for it". That's because most window-cleaners only clean windows. I threw in cleaning the doors and window sills as part of my basic skills of window cleaning, and everyone was happy for it.

Some degree of social skills is needed, but as long as you're friendly and can engage in conversation, most people will take you on (I'd say 35%, but I get on well with lots of people anyway, so maybe it was just higher for me).

It doesn't take a genius to do this, and you can easily net in £40,000+ plus a year. You'll build up your social circle, become better with people, and be an active member of the community. Once you become a regular face, law enforcement tends to be on your side a lot of the time, because you have a good reputation and are well known.

of course, you won't really get anywhere with that kind of money (several holidays a year), but if you're not stupid like myself (too fond of the pub) you can easily save up and invest in a home, or stocks/bonds.

More advice on why this is a god-tier, easy-as-shit, releatively quick money-making business to follow if anyone wants it. Just say so.

>>188902
well this was a window cleaning company that does industrial buildings and shit, not going from neighborhood to neighborhood

>>188904
Again, that's easy as shit to do yourself. Schools, shops office blocks...you can literally do whatever the fuck you want, pay yourself for doing it and not some business, and doing it the exact way that this business you applied for did.

>>188907
Out of internet how are you only making 200 quid a week working in engineering?

>>188916
*interest not internet dammit!

>>188878
By hand with a wash cloth and a latter, or with a sprayer? Also, what if some asshole decides "they're not clean enough"? How much do you charge per house or per window or per minute? What if someone doesn't pay? Why can't someone wash their own windows?

>>188916

Because I'm a fucking shit engineer. I have zero fucking interest in it, especially working a as production/quality engineer working with aluminium castings. Actually, I'm not that bad, but I'm paid minimum wage (which, for my age, is just over a fiver an hour) and my boss, who's a cunt, will not give me a wage, despite designing and suggestion a change in machining to one of our biggest products that would cut down scrap via porosity by 40%. Also designed a new die for this same product, that would eliminate about 30% of the scrap, and would be cheaper to build than our current one would be to replace. Fuck, I hate my job.

>>188920

Two minutes, and I'll get to you.

>>188902
What if you fall off your ladder and die/severely injure yourself?

>>188926
don't.

>>188920

I just used to handwash it. Far cheaper, and only requires a bucket for water.

One asshole did, so I asked him to inspect everything, and point out where I'd missed. I then offered to redo the house for free, and use what he had set down as a guidline to get it done. He was fine, but by the time he complained again, I was large enough to put him in the batch of houses I wanted to get rid of so I sold off. Always be willing to placate the customer, especially when starting off.

I charge ten pound per house. Only times I haven't been pad are those who are pretty poor anyway, so I just do it for free that time. They're grateful, spread the word of how good you are, and will definitely pay for a good while after. Plus, if it's a lady, you might get free sex. Always a plus.

>Why can't someone wash their own windows?

Because people are lazy as shit, and would rather pay me to do it, than do it themselves. Plus, they think it takes a good few hours. people are retarded, it only takes 15 minutes for a two-storey, 3 bedroom house. 20 if they talk and offer tea and biscuits.

>>188926

Get insurance, don't be retarded, and if ya dead ya dead. Find a religion, or just don't care. Ladders will never fail you, unless you're retarded.

>>188924
>get into a position with valuable info
>find primary competitor
>tell them you know how to take out your current company

Being a sales engineer is so shady but you can have a lot of power

>>188924
Ah so you must be late teens/early 20s then. Are you on an apprenticeship or training in engineering while you work then? Quality/production engineers at my job are on about 30-35 grand a year but then they all have degrees or hnds at least. Just struck me as a really low wage for an engineer (even a shit one lol)

>>188926
Don't money when your dead/NHS and welfare state

>>188939

19 years old. Our quality engineers are paid £20k a year, whilst our production are on £26k a year. My company is shit. So shit that stocks are going for 4p at the moment. I could literally invest £400 into the place, and have more shares than two of the company's directors.

>>188929
Thanks, m8. Your posts in this thread have been screen-capped and are invaluable. One last thing: Pros and cons?

>>188929
This is retarded but do you do only the outsides? Also what if you can't get it entirely clean?

>>188941
Where in the country are you? Im in the east so wages are fairly high and the factory I work in is heavily unionised so we're well looked after (I make 27ķ as a machine operator albeit on permanant nights)

>>188943

Pro's:
>Easy cash, very little time. Got a gift for the gab, and don't mind working 8-2? You'll easily make £30 an hour.
>Social skills. Brilliant for 4chan regulars. You're forced to talk to people, so you eventually beocme non aspie.
>If you start out small and just do regular houses around your street/area, you can get away without having a car. Carrying around ladders/buckets of water for an entire day will negate money spent on gym.
>If you're a bit of a perv, you can usually see women/girls getting dressed.
>If people can't pay, you can get sex if it's a woman (sometimes, but don't push it you idiots).
>You become better known in your community, so you can occasionally get free shit/knock-off prices.

Cons:
>It's manual labour
>If it's a small round, you HAVE to work no matter the weather
>When it's a large round, you WILL need a car to get you round to the houses, so this will cut your profits down A LITTLE BIT. DON'T BE A FUCKING RETARD AND GET A SPORTS CAR FOR THIS JOB. GODDAMMIT, SOME STUPID KID I HAD WORKING FOR ME DID THIS, THE DUMB CUNT.
>No cushy office job, but I like manual labour, so meh.
>You will be judged for not having a proper job. Fuck 'em.

Anyway, gotta eat, so will answer questions when back.

>>188950
Thank you, Anon. I wonder if you could get away with charging £40 or even £50 an hour. I know there's a limit where people won't hire you for that much, but I wonder where that limit is. Anyway, thanks m80. I have to go now too but it will be for some hours.

>>188950
>>188957
Also before I go I have to leave another question: How does billing work for it? Do you ask for payment right after or what and in what form?

>>188944

Mostly outside. Some of of my older customers I used to do inside, but that's because they gave me a free meal every now and then, so I never really cared. When I like someone, it pays to do free shit for them. It's usually returned ten-fold.

>>188945

East Midlands, and that's all I'll say on it.

>>188957

Also, some general advice for when you come back anon.

>Sunny days are shit. Water dries too quick, and you can't tell where the smears are. Customers hate smears.
>Cloudy days are Godly. You can wipe the shit off quick, people won't bug you, and you can usually get a job done quick.
>Never undercut your competitors, but offer MORE than them. One reason why I think I was as good as I was was because I offered to do more, for a little bit more.
>Invest in good boots, in case you have to stand on conservatories, or on ledges to get to nigh-impossible windows. Charge more for these houses.
>Do it for free every now and again, but don't let them take the piss. Most people I my round knew I could let them get away with a 3 free cleans a year, but I always got something out of it in the end.
>Old people are wonderful and will more than likely take you on if you're nice and friendly. Don't be grumpy teen. If you don't have a gregarious personality, I'll throw in some advice, but on /adv/ instead because this board isn't the place for it.
>Save your cash, and get good insurance. I was once out for three months. My insurance covered me for it, but I had to hire some kid with the stupid sports car. I took 30% of his earnings, but fuck, that kid was an idiot.

People paid me after the job was done. if they weren't in, I left them a receipt with the bill on it and collected it that evening, next day tops.

Also, when your customers trust you enough, they will give you special treatment (where the back gate keys are, etc). Do not abuse that trust, at all. You WILL lose customers/potential customers because of it. And be tidy when you leave.

>>188750
How dangerous is underwater welding? It seems interesting but im a huge pussy and dont want to die. Especially if that means dying so fast you dont even get to register your about to die.

>>188970
Thank you again, m8. Screencapped along with the rest. I'd say the only downsides are possible injury or death, and having to have any possible people inside awkwardly stare at you while you're washing the window. Also, why don't you go back to this work if you like it so much? Also, did you have a listing in the phone book or only get by on word of mouth?

>>189156
Supposedly very dangerous. The funerals for those that die are all closed casket because their whole body is almost turned to jelly. This just from what I heard from a couple people though.

Get in at a small company and become irreplaceable. To do this you must be better than anyone else at the job, you must bust your ass, first in last out everyday, no phony sick days, vacation at the boss's discretion. When on vacation, be in contact, since they will not be able to fully function without you - this actually makes you look good. Get XP and if they jerk you around, line up another job and tell them you are prepared to walk. If you really are that good they will try to keep you. Remember this will only work at smaller companies that can't afford to pay 5 retards/women to do 1 job.

>>188504
Programming is really hit and miss money-like but you can take it up as webdesigner and make decent dosh for 30hours per week.

>>189243
Yeah but you have to memorize nhgo59ighh987g786766%^^%d^67F7___&&HREFooO9UJ->>> AligHn>LeFT>Whof0989 about 600,000 different ways.

>>190275
wut

>>190275
Webdesign is pretty easy and completly logical constructed. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>>190275

What? I ended up majoring in IT Management and the web design class was the only class I actually learned a marketable skill in. It's what I am doing for a living now.

Retail management. My friend's Mom makes good money being a Walmart GM. All she does is make sure the inventory is stocked and paperwork.

>>190313
Maybe with a WYSIWYG editor, not code by itself.

>>190332
Was it HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, and MySQL or some WYSIWYG editor?

>Be interested in web design.
>Take Codeacademy course.
>Look up long examples of different coding languages needed to memorize.
HNNNNG.

>>190351
How get? Did she have to work up in Walmart? About how much does she make?

>>190352

My web design class was HTML & CSS. Pretty basic stuff.

Java and SQL were entirely separate classes (Programming l & ll and Database Management). SQL was the class I learned the least in, but I could probably get by if I had a good reference text.

>>190354

I don't know how much. They have a nice house in a middle class city and have 2 brand new cars and a 2009 BMW. His Dad is also an American Hisotry professor though. But she brings home free shit for him all the time. We just sell it on eBay and buy illegal stuff.

>>190352
>Codeacademy
There is your ptoblen.
May I ask what language exactly gave you trouble?

>>190361
Ask what she had to do to get it, Anon. Also how much she makes if that's open for discussion.
>TFW want.

>>190374
>May I ask what language exactly gave you trouble?
Lel. HTML. Nuff said.

>>190357
>My web design class was HTML & CSS. Pretty basic stuff.
About how many hours did it take you?

>>190380

She never went to college. I assume she worked her way up. It's not hard to move up. Just have a kiss ass attitude at work to customers and managers. I was assistant manager at McDonald's making $40K when I was 19 and in college. Just be assertive. Let them know you're wanting to move up where you hear the spot is open.

>>190383

What do you mean? It was a regular semester class. I can't say how many hours.

Just from my personal experience at a public state university, they will only teach you the basics. If you want to get good at particular languages you have to take some initiative.

>Run removals company in london
>Make about £45 per hour of actual work
>That's $75 dollars US.
>Plus I sell all the nice furniture people give away to me on ebay which brings in another £1000 a month.

mfw people go to university.

>>190451
>removal company
Like repossessing, or when people move and they don't want to keep something?

>>190457
when people move to a smaller place they don't have room for their furniture. or their girlfriend makes them give away the XBOX because they are a "proper couple now".

>I've been given 2 XBOX's because of exactly that reason. onto ebay they go!

>>190464

>Britbongs
>In charge of not being retards

>>190451
>Run removals company in london
What exactly is that and what's involved? What do you do in a typical day? Pros and cons?

When he is working he moves furniture. On his days off he exaggerates his income on /biz/

>>188637

Why all the hate on oil field workers? I'm just generally curios.

I'm guessing cause they're "tough guys/bros" who drive lifted trucks. But, dat $

>>190513
No, I watch while eastern Europeans move furniture
>>190505
move a couple of flats and a couple of furniture deliveries, on weekends maybe 3-4 flats a day and several deliveries. then I get high.

>>190505
>Pros
drive around london all day in a van getting tipped hard by customers
>and cons?
parking tickets, traffic jams.

>>190275
>>190352
You sound kinda dumb.

>>190568
>>190573
So basically you're a moving guy? I'm embarrassed to say, but other than driving around peoples' belongings and getting paid out the ass for having fun, I still don't know what exactly you do m8.

>>190606
Gooby pls.

>>188777
In Australia houses cost like 400k an hour out of the city ans everything costs twice as much as purchasing power is pretty much the same.

>>188790
how can this not be a textbook example of the dangers of raising the minimum wage here in America?

>>190915

the entire australian economy is in a bubble

make money and short the ASX with me

>Investors are the most bearish on Australian stocks since 2007 after last month’s rally pushed up valuations by the most since April and the central bank signaled a reluctance to add stimulus to the economy.

>Outstanding put options on the S&P/ASX 200 (AS51) Index outnumbered equivalent call contracts by 2.50 times on March 3, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The ratio rose to 2.52 on Feb. 28, the highest since September 2007. Bearish three-month options yesterday cost 7.1 points more than bullish ones, up from 5.8 points at the end of 2013, the data show.

>>190971
>make money and short the ASX with me
That's nice and all but speculation is too risky, even if you think you know what's going to happen.

Gooby bump.

>>192100

Pornstar.

>>188888
FICA's like fucking 18% percent faggot.

>>188709
I can program a robotic arm to do your job better than you.

>>192401
If the arm will be in the same place doing repetitive tasks then yes, if it requires any nuance or fine tuning then no. Besides robotic work is only usually profitable if you have to pay the worker more than they are worth, such as with minimum wage.

>>192420
Arms

>>192420
>2014
>Not making unibody metal products

There is no need for welding anymore, 3D printing of metal and water jet cutting has been killing welding. I guess pipes and buildings are the only thing left to weld anyways.

>>188924
Holy hell I would of gotten you a promotion, raise, AND would of fired your boss.

Fucking bastard costing me dosh.

>>189156
From what i heard you get paid stupidly well and its pretty safe especially if your careful...problem is when things go wrong boy do they go WRONG.

>>188504
>I'm NEET
>I don't want to go to school
>I don't want to get off my fat ass
>I don't want to work very long
>I have no prior work experience
>I only want a job if I'm making 50K a year doing unskilled labor

>>188709
>If you rip/bend a piece of welded metal, the metal will break before the actual weld.
So why not just make the entire thing out of weld?

>>195784
because you're fucking crazy, fund it

>>190915
>tfw live in British Columbia
>tfw houses an hour out of the city are pushing 600K
>A room with "no kitchen priviledges" on craiglist goes for $600 a month. You are not allowed to cook and it's a suburb so there are no restaurants nearby. There are many ads like this.
>Lowest minimum wage in the entire fucking country ($10.25)
>Food costs way more here because we don't subsidize like they do in America
>No welfare
>We have healthcare premiums
>No dental or vision (which sucks because I both have TMD and wear glasses)

Around here, it's not uncommon for guys in their mid 20s to be living at home still.

>>195798
>You are not allowed to cook
What. The. Fuck.

>>188929
>Plus, if it's a lady, you might get free sex. Always a plus.
What

>>189167
>The funerals for those that die are all closed casket because their whole body is almost turned to jelly. This just from what I heard from a couple people though.
/sci/ here:

Your cells don't get crushed by the pressure, your lungs do. This is what kills you.

>>195807
You live in the house with them, and you are not allowed to use their kitchen. It's usually Indians with illegal suites in their house and they really fuck up the place because you end up with 5 cars parked to one house.

The main city here is Vancouver (IE Vancity) but there is another city called "Surrey" and it's sometimes referred to as "Van-City" because every Indian and their uncle owns a white van for whichever trade they're employed in.

Any jobs that are:
>$60k+/yr
>Manual labour welcome
>40-60 hours/week max
>working outside

>>195798
>no kitchen priviledges

i don't think that's legal

>>188504
My job is technical support. You can go with a training company that will help you do the certs in record time and then place you in your first job. From there you can have a career. Technically, it's a white collar career although I would say near the bottom.

As for businesses, buddy up with one other and split the profits to prepare food at home and sell at markets. You need to pay for raw ingredients, cooking costs, transport, stall fees. If you do it with a buddy there is no need to pay salaries, just simply split the profits. This is BIG money at the moment, I reckon you can make a little more than your 50k/yr doing that. Think about how many middle class people are doing this these days.

>>188504
being a high class escort

>>195830
General labor won't make $60k a year. You'll need to have a trade skill, but even then when you first start you'll only be making about $25k a year as an apprentice. Then after 5 to 6 years of work you'll move up to journeyman and make around $35k.

Unless you join a union, but trade unions are super shitty and it's a bunch of guys who have been there too long to get fired making the new guys do all the work.

>>195857
trade unions are the most important labour market institution

however i'm not in US.

But sometimes fantasize about dropping out of uni and becoming a builder.

>>188790
>>188885
Haha no, wtf bread are you buying for $9

I get plain white bread its like $2 cunt

>>190957
because it's wrong you dumb fuck

>>194587

My boss took the credit for my die design/changes. I was only there for 4 months before I suggested this change. Now, whenever I have a new idea on how to change stuff, I'm just told to shut up about it because the manager got in the shit for it. HE still got MY raise, though, the cunt.

>>195836
>i don't think that's legal
The suite itself is illegal, because it's not registered. They probably wouldn't pay any income tax on it, either.
>>/diy/608696
>because most governments started to withdraw from public housing about 20 years ago, the supply of houses "dried up" or rather, the supply of rent controlled dwellings dried up. without rent control private owners have been able to charge whatever they want and that means passing on their shitty speculative losses from 2008 onto the young people now, barely out of highschool, throwing down more than half their paycheck for a roof to sleep under.
There are also a lot of white people with technically-legal-but-still-shitty suites in their house that rent out their basement to pay off the rent because they couldn't afford it.

>>188878
chim chimmeny chim chimmeny chim chim charoo

>>195798
BC isnt the lowest minimum in the country. Alberta is 9ish.

>>190549
its very fucking hard and usually a min of 12 hour work days

4chan isnt cut for it, i did somethign very similar a while back it was hard the money was good and i was surrounded by fucking idoits for hours, no chill fratty dudes just fucking imbeciles

deff dont think 90% of 4chan could make it in that biz

>>188790
Bread or Milk isn't expensive but Housing, Cars pretty much everything is ridiculous

>>197519
Im writing from my fracking company's lunch room. Can confirm everything you just said.
And the biggest issue is about the people I work with. Holy fuck I cannot overstate how retarded some of these assholes are. Dont get me wrong, there are some good dudes... farm boys mostly. But the prevailing attitude is one of complete ignorance.

The work can be tough on the body but its mostly hard because of the long stretches of 14-15 hour days.

>>197545
And spiders