/biz/ - Business & Finance

I bought bonds today. Did I do it right?

W is nearing the end of its short squeeze.

I wish I had enough cash freed up to short AMC this morning.

LEG DOWN WHEN

Second for cunny

EMAN
RTTR
MVIS

>party time

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

Do the DEW Dividends Every Week

ndx green, sp and dow crabbing as usual. not very strong market in dow currently, volume hoyyyyvering. nikkei and jpy gaining. gold and oil crabbing while bitcorn is 'halvening' :pp

everybody is mad
this is great

Fuck the crab.
By the way, I hope you are ready for ALL the market movement to be in the first 30 minutes afterhours again

https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/ca-governor-newsom-tesla-plant-can-open-as-early-as-next-week-20200511

ELON FUCKS NEWSON
CALI BTFO

If ET moons to new heighth after earnings, i'll probably sell. It it crabs or crashes, i'll hold onto it

>>19021910
Nice fish, brother

>My wife's Bvll got fucked today... and in a really good way

Where are you ET anon!? Why should I buy $9 strike calls!? You kept harping on about it and your only logic is the large buy order. Idk if its a good idea to buy or just get rid of the few contracts I got as the only logic Im seeing is the large buy order suggesting something.

a similar platform for options for euros ? IB is just horrible and saxobank options suck ass, degiro is shit, any fellow eurofag ? i need smth like TD Ameritrade

https://twitter.com/DeItaOne/status/1259931677356363776?s=20

lmao whats going on

>they can open next week
>they are already making cars
>we'll investigate breach of order

>>19021850
>https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/business-execs-see-signs-of-recovering-in-april-after-bottom.html

Back to normal. Bobos will never make it. We will never ever retest previous lows, you fucking deluded bears.

I make $45k a year and I set half of that aside for investing, how I transition to living off stonks without going to work?

>>19021968
I never suggested for anyone to buy calls

>>19021895
Only if they mature in 2022 or later.

>>19021991
bobos literally NEVER win
when will they learn?

>>19021968
ET anon here. I changed my mind to $12 calls exp May 15

https://twitter.com/DeItaOne/status/1259931677356363776
DOOMP EET

>>19021850
>why do I have to make a new thread every time edition
Because you're good at it. Daym son nice image. I doj t even trade stocks and I clicked on the thread.

>>19021957
Thank you brother

ETF anon from last thread here.

So let's say I forget about the ETFs I just bought today. What's the best way to go about purchasing additional shares?

I know people do stuff like dollar-cost averaging but that usually doesn't happen for growth based things like ETFs that usually slowly and steadily go up right? So do people just buy after a quick dip then forget about it until their next investment opportunity (say, like a monthly paycheck or a yearly bonus comes in)?

And yes I understand that stocks won't always go up forever (ie. VTI taking nearly 2.5 years to recover from the 2008 crash) so even though ETFs aren't a 100% future proof method I still would like to keep investing into them whenever my savings allows for it. So yeah, what's a good way of deciding when to buy ETFs?

>>19022011
Never. Even if they are broken and lost everything they have a new excuse.

>>19022000
run the wheel on a stock you like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRYBh6dtxjY

>REFR

>>19021953
>NOOOO ELON SAMA! PLEASE DONT LEAVE! ILL LET YOU BUILD YOUR CARS AGAIN! I BEG YOU DONT GO!!!!

>>19022016
thats bullish

>>19022002
Lmao idk if ur really him. Whats the suggestion i got like 10 minutes.

>>19022012
Lmao

>>19022016

For once I agree with Twitter. Elon should run for governor. They elected the Terminator, why not him

>that QQQ and IWM gap
tip for some of you retards: look back what happened in february to both of these indices

wtf /biz/ you told me to sell this may. yet everything I sold is still going up

>>19022050
>implying cars will ever be built

>>19022066
I already aired my plan
>>19021954

But do what you want

>>19022105
finna bouta strangle that shit (in fact i already did)

>>19022043
Thanks brah, ill check this out

pump eeet

>>19022004
>NORDSTROM INC 5% 2044
>ROYAL CARIBBEAN 7.5% 2027

BRANSON WANTS TO SELL SPCE

>>19022036
You never time the market. That's the golden rule of investing. Just google that term and you'll find plenty of resources.

lets go volatility!

so wtf happened today? from +1% to -2% to 0%? why the fuck? weren't things supposed to be ok?

>>19022036
DCA is basically way to utilize a lump sum of money over a period of time. Studies consistently show that time in the market is > timing the market.

Some consider continually putting in new $ as DCA (i usually consider it that) but consistently buying ETFs is going to put you in a better position than waiting for dips to buy

I put money in the market twice a month, every pay check. don't think twice about it because I don't care about the immediate market reaction but if I'll get a decent RoR over the next decade

>>19021924
Divvy-Expert: I just received an unexpected $5k cash windfall from work, and want to start divvy investing for LONG term.

I'm leaning towards SPHD divvy blend, but what would you invest in. I see your chart, but I have read that investing in divvy stocks near their scheduled payouts is usually not the best plan because they drop right afterwards....

Any advice? I'm not a high roller, but I plan I sitting on this for at least 10 years.

How do you do your divvy DCA investing over long term with respect to this chart?

>>19022105
I'm not seeing the relevance, are you saying they diverged or crashed or what?

>>19022146
y-you're joking right?
how many cents on the dollar?

>>19022185
FRO has great divvies

>>19022148
Pretty cheeky pump and dump that company was then

>>19021908
>shorting a potential buyout
You have no idea how risky that is, you're lucky you don't have the cash because if AMC is actually bought by Amazon you will be probably a mil in debt.

>>19022036
I have things set up so that I make an automatic purchase once a month on a specific day. This is for an amount I can easily spare every month.

Every now and then I take a look at my bank account and if I have more money there than I feel is necessary I buy some more. This can happen whenever.

>>19021953
Elon delivers

>have gotten fucked twice now on selling weekly MRNA calls

Sold a covered $37C when it was $34 a couple weeks ago, bought back at $51, then got assigned on a $55C on friday.

>>19022174
>+0.25% SPY.
>4th Green day
>Real stocks like FAANG mooning even more
Everything ok.

BREAKING NEWS
>BREAKING NEWS
BREAKING NEWS
>BREAKING NEWS
BREAKING NEWS
>BREAKING NEWS
BREAKING NEWS
>BREAKING NEWS
BREAKING NEWS
>BREAKING NEWS
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DHT FOUND ANCIENT PIRATE SHIP FILLED WITH THIRTY BILLION DOLLARS OF GOLD AND SAID THEY WOULD SPEND IT ALL ON STOCK BUY BACKS. DHT CONFIRMED TO MOON

These are the real man hours

>>19022191
About 70 for each :)

Monthly divvies other than MAIN?

>>19022191
kek basedo

>>19022036
Most just dump a set amount into it each month cause timing the exact bottom is a fools game. It does the averaging on it's own. Yeah some months the the average may be higher but in others it'll be lower. You won't know nor care cause the only time you look at it is when you need to sell part or all of it when "retirement time" hits.

>>19022185
divvy blend isn't a bad idea, makes for easy diversification. i'm not opposed to it but I enjoy researching divvy stocks and buying individual companies, even if it may be to my detriment.

I dont' buy based on ex date or pay date because the stock doesn't always show a change in share price, despite the payment. I buy based on my sector spread (i'm way over in consumer staples, so i'm putting money into other sectors like healthcare, financial and industrial) and what looks like a good value.

I heard rumblings about this a few weeks ago, sounds like a good deal for young people

>>19022204
You investing in energy stocks now? Seems risky.

>>19022269
O
NWH

How does Robinhood (and other brokers) handle trading violations?

>>19022185
Divvy on payout will drop by the corresponding amount paid in divvies, it's an excellent time to buy in then. Buying before ex-divvy date is another good date to get in because then you are entitled to the divvy. The stock price goes up after the divvy date's downward correction so no worries there for the most part. Of course this is additionally all subject to usual market movements.
I choose my investments based on book value (payout ratio, yield, frequency, free cash flow) and how likely I believe the company is to maintain or increase their dividend amount.
In the current climate, you can easily find 15%+ yields that are worth picking up. By the time they recover, you'll have doubled your money and will still be getting 15-20% of your investment back every year.

>>19022316
What are you planning to do? I hope it's nothing bad, anon.

>>19022289
so can i start collecting ss benefits at 20 years old?

whoa

>>19021850
Hope you guys have pfe calls, we're going to the moon

Check your local underpasses for the retarded TVIX posters, all of whom got what they fucking deserve

>>19022146
>>19022266
70 is way too high for the Nordstrom bond, best of luck with them.

>>19022339
The way I saw it presented before was they would give $10K for you to push back collecting benefits until you're 67 or whatever the minimum age was

>>19022289
Imagine the jews trying hard to argue this would cause more harm than good, oof!

>>19022175
>>19022224
Looks like most people are on the same page. That's good to hear.

"Bogle and Malkiel both understood that stock picking is a waste of time. That’s why Bogle pioneered index fund investing in the 1970s and why Vanguard today manages trillions of retirement dollars for millions of Americans." I guess millions of Americans are also on the same page.

My question now is, let's say somebody needs to take some money out to do something like say, a down payment on a house or a side project without guaranteed income (imagine grad school, for example). How would the taxes on those ETFs work? Obviously I wouldn't want to sell them but if I absolutely had to, for entertainment or other important purposes.

>my banking and financial stocks that can't meme up earnings are down despite making money
>my meme tech stocks that meme up "earnings" are up despite losing a lot of money
*honk honk*

Is ZOM still a meme?

>>19022321
Beware dividend traps though, i.e. yield looking high now based on past divvies but the stock never recovering and divvies getting cut in the future.

So what are your go to’s fren?

>>19022364
Why is that?

What the FUCK was that?

WHAT WAS THAT

Srly? Closed at 0.00%?

>S&P closing at 0.00%

>Hard dump into close by not so much that SPY is red for the day.
Having shit this manipulated makes end of day swinging easy as fuck.

>>19021907
Just looking at W pisses me off.
Credit spreading that last week wiped out all my gains :(

what

>>19022393
Always

>>19022371
I’d take that in a heartbeat. SS won’t be around by the time I retire anyways

AND now I wait for ET news

>>19021895
he drinks liquids like a human, or maybe its oil

>>19022371
If you're under 30, you're not getting anything period (most likely) so you would be a fool not to take the 10k lel.

DID THE DAY EVEN HAPPEN AT ALL IF IT CLOSES AT 0%?

Odd none of my stuff has crashed hard yet robinhood is giving me a graph showing a loss of $600. I really hate how shitty they track stuff. Along with questionable sell calls that get assigned but the tpremium seems to not appear unless they secretly sneak it in throughout the contracts life even if it'll get assigned.

>>19022430
Double top, retard. The kikes were signalling the game plan.

>>19022399
These companies are probably already very leveraged
No visibility on their future cash flows as nobody knows about the state of the cruising industry
In case of liquidation, how much money would these companies get from their boats? Chances are: not much

>>19022289
This is like a carrot and stick thing. Yeah if this passes your able to get the money sooner but if your living for 20 more or longer years that extra bit of money you'd get by waiting can add up over those years.

>>19022371
Boomers are going to plunder SS into the dust. It's nothing short of genius to take a cut early you weren't going to see anyway.

>>19022403
>>19022410
>>19022412
>>19022417
You guys like this free market? Remember the market is always right and everything priced it.

>>19022458
For people that actually knows how to trade, yeah

holy fuck spy is still dumping

>>19022114
forgot to go away
I am not liable

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I'm up .34%, fine but boring monday even with my extra special coffee. VIX down a laht is interesting to me, I'm unironically getting close to breaking even on SVXY lmao. Saw a lot of bull options sweeps combined with a good amount of declining breadth, no idea what this means. Again I reiterate that volume profile looks like we want to be at 2910 and ess pee ex max pain is 2900, I'm still holding bulle positions but just be advised.
I have to walk to work now that my roomates are gone, it's gonna take me over an hour so I'll have to leave soon >_<

> We've got a double fucking top, with the support just broken making it confirmed.
> We've got a black candle on an uptrend with this pathetic ass volume.

Yet somehow tomorrow will be green.

>>19022291
OK. Sounds good. So , where would you drop $5k right now? Specifically.

>>19022505
It ain't easy sitting on all this SOXL but somebody's gotta make these dollaridoos

>0.00%

I swear someone is fucking around. They dumped just the exact amount to have 0.00% on close.

Hi, I'm still all in. I've taken another big hit, but I'm standing firm.

My prediction was for the crash to happen today or tomorrow. We shall see if you can make fun of me (^:

I think the last move by the S&P500 today was truly abnormal. A quick summary of my observations

>Futures market went up on more retail-tier movements
>giant red candles out of nowhere tanked them
>no PPT green candle pumping the futures last night at all
>gap down this morning, followed by actual open hours market movement
>I assume this is FOMO by retail investors expecting "stocks only go up!!!!"
>giant sudden unrelenting red candle at close to take us from +0.50% to 0.00%

Volatility is still on the menu, boys. They aren't pumping it anymore.

>>19022394
I'm mostly in the sidelines for now, considering tanker into oil plays (both can give really good divvies, both are in my opinion guaranteed to go up, tankers first, and tankers' demise is the same as oil's rise, so this would cause multiplicative gains and solid divvies at the end). I also like REITs in normal times but not sure about them now.
I like ET, NU, OKE, XOM, CNQ, T, PPL and IP among others.

>>19022148
Really? What is the point of even opening it up as a company if he'll back out so soon after. However idk if you're talking about something that happened or if you're making it up.

>>19022505
black day 0%. no trades because I was at the dentist

One of the original anons that shilled ET here. We ready, fags? Buckle up. 55 minutes.

>>19022505
Down 1.42%
What a shit day

>>19022552
m8 look up "Sunk Fallacy" on Wikipedia. That's all I'm going to say.

>>19022560
It's actually 2,930.19 +0.39 (0.013%), investing.com is wrong.

>>19022556
Richard Branson is gearing up to sell a stake of Virgin Galactic to help fund his airline and other travel-related industries.

>>19022316
I've forwarded your ip to the SEC

>>19022560

also
>2.3 months passed
>Bowl America still not open

>I bought SPXS at $10.13 this morning

Market will crash tomorrow, right?

>>19022584
I played with TVIX back in February of 2018. I think I went -60% or so before I made +200%

>>19022520
Based

>>19022560
at the dentist?!
During the coof???

I've been meaning to go, I got lotsa cavities!

Wallmine has BRK.B forward P/E at 93.46, Finviz has it at 15.93, SeekingAlpha: 18.34. How the fuck are they completely different?

I can understand being a little off because of the lag in updating the current price.

>>19022602
It's gotta be coming soon! You see Wynn is gonna reopen on the 26th? VA simply HAS to open soon

>>19022584
I mean my port is 0%
+0.03% then -0.03% post market

I am more and more inclined that retail investors and zoomers are propping the market up and big boys selling off at the end of the days. This is literally a pattern for days now.

>>19022505
up 2.7% successfully closing the other leg on my earnings strangle on NET (closed the call down 50% rather than 90%)
sold a put on AMC
bought 5/15 HMC 25/22.5
bought 5/15 IWM 136/128
see >>19022162

>>19022584
>sunk cost fallacy
>he hasn't posted reasoning that would make TVIX the same bet as it was before, if not better
Cope harder.

that was some nice reverse cunny at the end

0.3k loss on shorts today /smg/

could've been worse

>>19022505
Nothing. /cashgang/ for now. It's too flimsy.

based

the ultimate snib

>>19022604
I've been holding SPXS bags at 11.50 for like a month
it's over anon
it's never going up again

>>19022620
I seriously thought I had 5 cavaties and then the xray showed I had 0 and nothing was wrong

>>19022552
theres one if those retards I mentioned, how is your big short going little guy?

>>19022552
Ahahahahahahahahaha

Fuck bro. I made 27% today on one of my tickets. You need to re evaluate your life decisions.

>>19022552
>down 40%
>thinking your “predictions” mean anything

> Only candle with more than 1m volume is massive 2m sell candle at close
This is good.

>>19022552
>implying the current administration will ever let the stock market go down
They're gonna keep doing this til election day, lose and printers stop, win and its brrrrrrrrrr as usual.

>>19022606
>>19022651
Just seems like you spend most of your time waiting, not exactly interesting. But you do you.

>>19022637
>forward p/e
going to depend on which tea leaves you expect to be accurate about their future earnings

>>19022399
I'd argue Nordstrom's default risk is very high (especially before 2044) given the state of retail as a whole. They have some assets but their earnings and returns have flatlined. Rating isn't nightmare mode, but it's on a negative trajectory. 5% coupon doesn't really make up for the high price.

>>19021850
Um why is MARK exploding? Not complaining or anything

>>19022552
Fucking why, I sold at 217 for a small 6% gain, how in the fuck could you actually lose money on TVIX lately?

>>19022574
Even in the worst case scenario I doubt it would lose as much as i've gained with it, so I felt fine on holding through earnings.

>>19022552
Your fates gonna be decided on Wednesday

>>19022505
Where do you get these levels? Still playing around with that Dalton book?

>>19022555
Thanks fren, will take a look

>>19021743
>https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/ca-governor-newsom-tesla-plant-can-open-as-early-as-next-week-20200511

Was this published in after hours? Why isn't TSLA going to the moon?

i feel violated

>>19022640
Wynn was the first stock I ever bought 2016, or possibly Boeing. I remeber shilling Wynn to my co workers too. I should buy it again

>>19021850
I really like this picture
the art reminds me of something i cant quite pinpoint
got any more?

>>19022651
I've done a bit of research into TVIX and the VIX

It is important to know that the VIX, after a drop in the market, will often spike again but only up about 70-80% as high as before. Theoretically that gives me an exit price of $700-800. The only other time the VIX has been this high was the 2008 financial crises. That is also worth noting. During that time, the VIX did practically a double top almost equally as high (85 first spike, 80 second).

Assuming we are not in a "market correction" but in a genuine recession, as per the job report, we can expect another very large spike up in the VIX because there will be a second leg down, not just a downward couple weeks.

>>19022666
Are you the guy that bragged about going all in at 12.80 lol

>>19022742
Because aside that one website there is no other source. Forexlive seems like clickbait galore to me.

>>19022555
Oh I bought like 20 shares of XOM just for funsies.. Dividends sound cool, but they're tied to the price of the stock as well right?

So my question is, let's say I'm somebody who just buys say, index funds like FNILX or VOO. And let's pretend those guys return 5% a year for me.

And let's say dividend stocks with good yield (XOM for example) returns 7% annually. Those high yield dividend stocks also have the opportunity go up with the market, which means you would be getting that 7% plus the potential gains.

So my question is what are the risks that come with buying high yield dividend stocks? That sort of guaranteed income sounds very nice. I'm wondering if maybe I should make 10-15% of my portfolio individual blue chip stocks that give good dividends. Any thoughts?

>>19022697
Yeah, I'm upset that I could have made more if I stayed with my UPRO that I bought at the bottom and then bought even more shares of TVIX about now.

But then I ask myself "how was I supposed to know the futures market would be manipulated?"

>It's gunna be a s-slaughter on monday, r-right guys?
bearfags eternally btfo

>>19022763
I've been following you. I'm in on DXD instead of VIX. If I end up freeing up money before takeoff, I might swing over.

>>19022730
Yaya, I'm still not full Market Profile mode (especially since it's a little hard to read right now @_@), but 2910 looks tempting on Volume Profile on every time frame from 5 minutes to 1 day

>>19022703
They can't be worse than JCPennys or Macys

>>19022385
Your profits taxed based on your income, depending on how long you've held them. Look up capital gains tax

>>19022036
>what's a good way of deciding when to buy ETFs?
Buy high, sell low. That's the /biz/ way

>tanker portion is still fucked
>rest of the portfolio brings me in spitting distance of breaking even
These bags, so heavy... I just need to keep holding, my training will pay off. It has to eventually!

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

>S&P500 +0.01%
*crab rave*

>>19022505
7k invested, down to 4k - 3/7 of my money is gone...

Since all this money is pouring into the US what foreign stocks are you guys looking at a discount? Any japanese/russian ones?

>>19022765
No I only have 10 shares at 11.50
Sucks for that other guy though
Sounds fucking miserable

>>19022291
Any picks you recommend?

>>19022806
I think the planets are aligning up in our favor. For some retarded reason BTC and the market have been tied together very tightly and now bitcoin is dumping after a similar pump.

My theory is that bitcoin is an experimental investment for large investing firms and quickly jump out when they think something bad is going to happen. You can really only afford experimental investments like crypto during bullish economic times.

See you in on the other side.

https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor/dix?

look at the GEX, DIX , this looks super bearish

>>19022480
If it will be there or you can stick that in something that will steadily grow

>>19022480
Lmao like people ever give a shit about long term planning, it’s all about the next paycheck

>>19022760
I got it off Japanese Creator's Association (JCA annual) but it's not a single artist, and more of a gallery.

amazon should absolutely buy AMC.
>make all that sweet soda money
>make all the distribution contract money
>do a whole foods thing where there are movies and shows scheduled and you just walk in.
>make flagship productions that will net profits with the big boys at the box office
honestly it would be pretty fucking clutch. don't know how it would shake out with all the debt tho

These after hours candles are nuts.

Going to ask the cute military girl I keep seeing at work out Friday, hopefully she says yes and likes me and doesn't turn out to be the troop bicycle and is okay with my physical kinks later in the relationship.
The question for you all is, at which point in this description did my prospects change from bullish to bearish for you, anons?
Is anyone in on the full conditions at initial IPO? Or would you put against me at the very first condition?

>>19022864
my intention is to catch one good call and buy all the russian oil / gas lads, rosneft, gazprom, lukoil, surgutneftegaz, etc

>>19022864
NEVER BET AGAINST AMERICA

>>19022620
I've been extremely lucky about my teeth. I did my visit right before they locked down everything. 37 years old, just 1 cavity and only 1 missing tooth (cracked it;to bad to save). Last visit he told me I was fine so go me..

>>19022509
JNJ MSFT JPM KO LOW O NEE CSCO ITW VZ

I'd look into putting $500 into each or a combination of 5 for $1K a piece probably. do some DD on them before investing tho because wtf to I know, i'm some anon on a cantonese pixel forum

>check portfolio
>ACB up 1000%
>try to sell
>There is a trade restriction on this symbol
>turns out they reverse split today

>>19022874
I noticed the same thing Friday.

>GEX went down really hard while the S&P500 rallied 2% on a terrible job report
>A sharp downturn on the GEX, during times of a high VIX, typically reflect in the market the next day or two
Big boys planning their escape plan.

>>1902277
Dividend yield is backward looking.

The yield is high because market thinks it is unsustainable as companies pay dividends out of their profits and free cash flows.
Market thinks the future dividends will be lower and adjusts the share price today.

>>19022864
Some junior gold miners with good prospects are pretty cheap right now. I have a position in OTSO

I think foreign telecom stocks look good too because of that cheap price and high dividend. Looking at Turkey right now and like what I see

>>19021910
When everyone becomes a bull.

>>19022801
We're going to see Dow Jones Industrial Average sub 22 thousand by Friday. Just fucking wait.

>>19022817
They're not, they're just treading water. I personally wouldn't be taking a bet that they'll be able to tread water for 24 more years at that price.

>S&P moves less than 1% in the green
>I lose $50

Fuck

>>19022934
They are doing that every fucking single day.

>PPT props prices in futures
>Retail investors and zoomer buying through the day with zero volume
>Big boys dumping EoD.

>>19022776
>but they're tied to the price of the stock as well right?
No, only to the amount. Yield % is a current view of ROI, but unless the company is seeing financial trouble, the same or higher per-share dividend will be paid whether the share price doubles or halves. Hence, investing at 20% yield for $1000 would give you the same as investing at 10% for $2000 regardless of how many shares this buys you.

>>19022914
Yeah, but you've been an institutional presence on this cantonese pixel forum for a while unless you are NOT the monopoly chance card guy. If anything you have been consistent on this and the seekingalpha crowd back up a lot of what you write so you have cred there.

So for a guy like me who cannot analyze company data as well as you can, these picks are good for 10 year positions?

>>19022874
>>19022934
It hasn’t updated since Friday. It’s still full bull but less bullish than Thursday. That doesn’t make it “super bearish” at all.

>there are still people holding W at 290
Who are these fucking retards man? I feel like a hedge fund is just buying everyone's shares to keep the stock inflated or something. That volume today was pathetic too, it would be easy for a fund with a few million dollars to play with to pump it, maybe they are all-in 200 calls for May 15? They're fighting the market makers hard though, max pain is fucking 126.

Whatever, it costs me like 40 cents a day to hold this short position, take as long as you want you kike faggots.

>>19022934
Are you gonna use a stop or just let it roll until profit? I'm about 50% down and using a close above 2950 on SPX as a mental stop but idk.

>>19022962
who cares when Dow will be 40K in 2025

>>19022874
gex is very wobbly in general. Wait for todays value before doing anything stupid.

>>19021850
Any do OTC? GTXO has been performing pretty well due to selling Masks and pledging to help fight the virus; keeps their business afloat while everything is struggling. They're even hiring.

>>19022480
Or you could invest that $10k and it will be worth 10x whatever you'd get otherwise in old age.

SNIB SNAB I AM THETA CRAB

>>19022888
The debt? It would be absorbed and forgotten about. Your list isn't bad, but they'll have some tie-in with Prime shit, like watch your prime shows in the most prime manner or something, they'll use the facility as Amazon return centers, and more than likely every one will have one of their self-serve stores before long. There's an endless list of shit Amazon can and will do with it.

>Trump speech about partnering with private sector
>camera pans to something made by Abbott Labs
Bullish?

>>19023028
If this week fails me, I cut my losses. That is my stopping point

>>19023022
Sorry I meant 190.

>>19022888
Speaking of Amazon.

So recently I just got my Amazon RSUs for 2020 from work that vest in 2021 and 2022.

What do anons think about selling those RSUs as soon as they vest and reinvesting that cash into ETFs? That'd be kind of like diversifying my portfolio right? Or do you guys think the high tax on RSUs make it not worth selling right away? I'm cringing at the thought of my RSUs pushing me into a higher tax bracket yuck.

>>19023011
yes, i'm divfren. i have a good solid portfolio that currently works

and yes, those are my safest bets across most sectors and if I had to start over again would be my core 10 positions. You could also add MCD as a mixture of real estate/Restaurant

>>19022321
So what is a good example of the picks you are making right now?

VTIQ

What does /biz/ think of this yacht? I'll never be able to afford one, but I think this one is really proportionally aesthetic and has surprisingly high interior craftsmanship that isn't common anymore

https://www.worthavenueyachts.com/yachts-for-sale/121ft-explorer-37/

be honest in your lavish and critiques.

>>19023074
>60% down is when I say enough is enough

Lmao
Ngmi

>>19022980
Theta gang thanks you for your contributions

>>19022185
Invest in individual divvy stocks. You want to be able to collect premium from covered calls.

>>19022907
Debating on getting in on the Russian oil stocks but don't trust Russian bookkeeping at all. Plus their tickers are weird on TDAmeritrade like Rosneft doesn't have one it seems.

>>19022910
My portfolio is primarily American with RTX and OKE being my largest positions. Whats more American than natural gas and bombing brown people.

>>19022937
I don't know about gold miners how they work plus isn't gold just a boomer meme.

Foreign telecoms seem interesting like I did have MBT, but don't know what other telecom stocks are out there and if they are listed on nyse/nasdaq vs pink sheets. Plus do telecoms even grow?

>>19023086
Thanks man. Locking these in. And if they all crash, I can always spend the next two years tirelessly blaming you for my losses on this cantonese pixel forum.

>>19022574
ET Whiffs, not too surprising. Pretty in line with USAC results

>>19023116
high risk high reward, nigga

everyone who bet against large leg downs were always bleeding money up until it actually happened, including the 08 shorter and the '28 shorter.

>>19023084
You should sell the RSUs and put them into the real stock or an index or whatever ASAP. RSUs are almost a scam. You are normally taxed at the time they vest anyway, the capital gains tax will just add up to it the same if you sell the RSU immediately to get the real stock or not. Better to sell immediately, therefore, since RSUs don't yield dividends or voting power.

>>19023083
As long as it doesn't get to 195 by friday, I make a nice premium. It'd be cool if it drops though.

>>19023134
what was the price when you bought in RTX? i bought mine at 67 per share and I feel like a dumbass

>>19023084
Always sell off your RSUs as soon as you can, you're gonna be taxed on them regardless. It's much better to have control over your money anyway

>>19023134
Yes, only boomers think veins of gold ore being mined by a company whose stock has been tanked through poor previous attempts to mine it could be profitable

>>19022976
They are still profitable unlike JCP and Macys though. I dont really plan on holding the to the end, but not in any hurry to sell either.

>>19023052
Why would Amazon buy them now and have to deal with all the AMC shareholders getting a piece of the profit pie? V.S wait it out, AMC goes broke, shareholders get the shaft then Amazon steps in and buys AMC for chump change and doesn't have to give AMC shareholders a nickel (or a Amazon stock share)

>>19023134
>muh bombing brown people
If that’s what you wanted you shouldn’t have bought RTX, it’s not RTN.

If what you wanted was to make money, then you should’ve bought LMT and maybe even NOC or LHX.

>>19022105
>small cap trails megacap out of a crash
no shit retard

>>19023179
My average is 60 so I am bleeding with you brother but missile goes boom. I have 30 shares.

>>19023106
this is a business thread not post your fucking dream yacht if i can make my money back on tvix

>>19023158
you do realize that everyday that goes by that people are making 5-30% is another day wasted for you. even if you were to hit all time highs on the tvix, id still come out ahead of you.

I share this board with retards.

>>19022888
Obviously they just need to rename it Amazon Masterpiece Cinemas. Wow that was easy.

>>19023151
lol

>>19023211
bombing brown people

Either the missiles made by RTX will get them or the engines will fail when put into a Boeing Max.

>>19023230
Do you have 3x the money you did 3 months ago from gains?

>>19023164
>>19023181
Sounds good. RSUs are also a scam in that they influence me into not leaving the company in the next 2 years.. those sneaky fucks! I've always wanted to take a year or two off to self-study or do a bootcamp but no, I won't get my stock monies if I leave. :l

>>19022888
>do a whole foods thing where there are movies and shows scheduled and you just walk in.
legitimately a good idea

>>19023230
>Implying anyone here makes constantly 5-30% a day.
KEK

>>19023263
Do you? Currently I mean, not definitely soon

>>19023158
I'm not bleeding money. I swing trade and have made about 200% gains in the time you've been bleeding.

Pic related. Today's gains

>>19023074
you won't wait for tuesday and wednesday next week?

>>19023278
>RSU
More like IOU

>>19022807
As a selling point/short entry?

>>19023323
depends on if I keep sinking. If we start seeing a reversal this week, I'll hold. It'll take a literal month for the 2nd leg down to complete.

>>19023289
Even at 5% a day that's 5,421,184,158% a year. Seems totally plausible and legit m8. Turning that $1 into 54 million in a year.

>>19022716
So I don't neck myself for 1.9 limit buy

>>19023278
"Golden handcuffs". Personally I just fucked off anyway when they became too insufferable. Timed it with the vesting for maximum gainz. Could've made a lot more if I had stayed a year longer but fuck it. The stress wasn't worth it. Every day I think about it, I'm amazingly glad I made the move. I sometimes regret the money, but only a little bit.

>>19023289
not when you invest in meme stocks
>>19023263
I have more money now than I did three months ago? I told you, all my positions are short. Longest I hold something is a full day. Haters going to hate

>>19023364
Easy right? Just 5% a day. haha

I'm tempted to put in my life savings to short natural gas before the break.. would there be any reason not to?

>>19023134
>I don't know about gold miners how they work plus isn't gold just a boomer meme.
They just dig up dirt, put it through a refinery and metal comes out. They can sell it for up to $1700/oz, so the profit is in keeping the cost of mining low ($1000/oz or under is considered good for this current market). That's basically the business model.
>Foreign telecoms seem interesting like I did have MBT, but don't know what other telecom stocks are out there and if they are listed on nyse/nasdaq vs pink sheets. Plus do telecoms even grow?
Telecoms grow with population growth and general income growth and payout nice dividends, so just pick a country with a growing population that has an IQ in the 90s or more (a country which should continue to experience income growth) and buy telecom stocks and they will grow steadily with nice payouts.

>>19023288
also imagine watching the expanse on the big screen

Is Russell2000 an obvious BUY?
S&P500 is already almost back at ATH but Russell2000 is still 22% down.
Is there a rational explanation? Looks like a big chance

>>19023364
I make that in my sleep.

>>19023198
I feel like its the same sentiment with NAK when people where shilling that this time it was going to go through.

>>19021924
Bro, need better week 4 choices.

Who /NBRV/ here?

>>19023400
Russell2000 is following the reality.

SPY, DoW, Nasdaq are over inflated with techs.

Newfag here.
Is wealthsimple trade a decent place to start?

>>19021850
who else here a SWAB guy

>>19023208
Because if they wait someone else will buy them, even out of hopes just to sell it to Amazon higher later. If they wait until bankruptcy, one of their debtors would guaranteed do exactly that.

>>19023387
Based 50%+

Im right along side you. Did you re enter uavs? I remember reading your post last night to re enter. I got cold feet on that one

>>19022555
Down 4% today on an all REIT portfolio, not a huge deal as I essentially plan to hold forever.
Basic strategy right now is to look at tenants, if a good chunk is malls, nursing homes, or similarly affected mortgage, steer clear. After finding a good grouping, diversify as much as possible. REITs in general are structurally protected against bankruptcy but it can only help to pick a wide spread.
During normal market conditions they are good dividend stocks with the caveat that price movement is typically very low, they don't reinvest much earnings in growth. That said, I am betting they will rebound in price eventually.

>>19023394
Are you trolling new people by trying to get them to ride the widow maker?

I shall see you boys when futures open.

>>19023387
good stuff m8. I really hate to pull the "manipulation" card out but I genuinely think the gap ups on minimal volume were manipulation. There's no way I could have known that. I actually expected significant movement down after oil hit -300% and then again when Amazon missed earnings. However, the job report signifies that all manipulation is rendered null and void in practicality because the entire year is essentially promised to be downward and after that we saw pumps dissappear.

>>19023412
>>19023198
The difference between this speculative miner and others is this one has all the equipment ready to go and previous attempts were being managed by people who didn't know how to manage a mine.

>>19023466
I did. Gained 54% on that alone today.

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/interest-rates/pages/TextView.aspx?data=realyieldYear&year=2020
Real treasury bond yields are now negative. What does that mean????

>>19023423
Just hold. Pdufa will pull this up again...I think.
I don't any though.

>>19023488
Nobody cares about you bro.

You move the goal post all the time.

>>19023497
I know, I was being sarcastic, I'm saying it obviously has potential

>>19023518
USD getting flooded and/or bearish sentiment.

Whats your guys take on JMIA now that MasterCard is patterning with them to push for credit card purchases.

Is it still a fraud or will it become a Mercadolibre of Africa?

Tesla starting production

>>19023545
ok bro

>>19022904
>hopeful-

>>19023509
I watched it run. You think it will continue to pump tomorrow?

>>19023394
>life savings
put into a mutual bond or ETF. it's safer

>>19023400
Lmao are you serious? QQQ is literal fucking delusion tier. Why the fuck would we be all time high when the entire world economy is fucked?

watch him actually both get the rona on his work line and arrested lol

>>19023400
russel 1000 and 2000 more equally weighted. you have sp500 weighted version too that is probably down more than sp500. and russel has simply more stacks too. nasdaq and dow are driven by handful overperformers currently, and that's quite typical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZREjC0P69Tk

>>19023518
Real treasury bonds yields are now √-1. What does that mean???

>>19023479
do you think Natgas will come back up? winter is over and covid19 still has places on lock down.... the reserves were full....

>>19023581
muh credit, muh tech, muh passive, muh return to normal, muh tesla.
Any questions?

>>19023597
Elon Musk in handcuffs will be a spectacular publicity stunt.

>>19023497
What's the timeline on this pennystock?

Hey guys :)

Im a code monkey and Im now working on a semi confidential product at fidelity that deals with "ETFs" and "Margins".

Can anyone tell me what those are :)

>>19023597

>>19023610
The point is that NG does what it wants regardless of what people think. It’s a commodity that’s been blowing up accounts since the 1940’s.

>>19023518
I did a quick google search.

Investors still buy negative yield bonds assuming we get hit hard with deflation as a result of a strong recession.

If our currency deflates, you can still take a profit off the bond, adjusted for the deflation. THEORETICALLY, it might signify there's a larger recession that we are seeing.

>>19023611
>fake shit means real recovery
I'm not arguing that its going up, I'm warning you that its the fakest shit ever and could implode any second. Russell is not going to rocket up. I suppose many retards won't believe the world is fucked until it knocks on their door.

>>19023605
>Quite typical

>>19023597
Based. Some big balls on him. He should leave anyway, Nevada and Texas has no state tax.

>>19023597
Looks like he forgot to take his meds again

>>19023569
Appreciate your investment anon

>>19023576
ngmi with that attitude

>>19023607
The real treasury bond yields are now imaginary.Polar graphs are now preferred over candlesticks.

this is why tesla stocks keep going up. the dude cares about his people and company. not fucking money

>>19022121
take your meds

>>19023735
Anon, I...

>>19023676
yeah, I'm right with you (credit being the only worthwhile thing in the list), but there's nothing stopping it from melting up and vaporizing everything in its path. I'm expecting QQQ to swing however it wants until S&P actually shits the bed. Money will flow back to Dow Jones whenever people think it's time I guess.

Can stocks ever trade negative?

>>19023681
well as you can see it's been going on long time and graph like that confues reader like you because of scaling percentage

>>19023672
so what you are saying is that I should short it with half my life savings right now and the other half of my life savings right after the break?

>>19023764
Futures market is basically this and it's a plague on honest business

>>19023735
he cares about his goals. thats what he cares about

>>19023658
Pretty sure they're both types of aliens

>>19021908
>bear being a retard
big surprise

You know, I feel like im coming around to being a bull. I mean, I love america, I love men, I love success. Why would I bet against those things?

The fed? Who can go up against Jerome

Money printer go brrrrrr

>>19023432
Am I /biz/ material?

>mfw i bought 300 shares of KOS based on pure gambling

>>19023873
>big losses on meme stocks
welcome aboard

>>19023861
>I love men

>>19023861
you love men you say? how much exactly

>>19023106
>https://www.worthavenueyachts.com/yachts-for-sale/121ft-explorer-37/
into the trash it goes

if you're not sailing, you're not yachting

>>19023900
I’m only 160 shares in, feelsbadman

>>19022598
Nigger

>>19023873
Mark is good really good I mean working with micky mouse good

>>19023873
> 810 x 5977
>all memes
>no LMT, WM, SMG, or anything with QQQ in it


looks like youll have to learn the hard way

>>19023861
I mean, we all knew something was off about you. Can't say I'm surprised.

>>19023873
I don't see any 3x leveraged bull ETFs
Definitely ngmi

>>19023658
ETFs are short for Enhanced Toilet Flushes. Margins are the bits that get left behind so ETFs are designed to "flush out" Margins.

>>19023639
Basically every time they've tried to operate the mine, they took on too much debt and didn't know where to mine. So the creditors brought an actual mining executive on board to salvage the mine and converted their debt into equity. Equity stake are 80% former creditors, 10% management, and 10% publicly traded. Even though there's real value and potential, people are scared of the stock because it went bankrupt twice.

New bread?

>>19024030
I swear I've seen this episode before...

>>19023914
Didn't you go to Mexico to fuck a tranny?

>>19023785
Or actually don’t put any of your money into it and keep shilling here so that some unsuspecting shitters get rekt and we can all laugh at them.

>>19023911
>>19023991
>>19023993
>>19024018

>>19024057
Yes
>>19024089
>>19024089
>>19024089
>>19024089

>>19022864

I trade stuff listen on Stockholm exchange.

Alfa Laval, and ABB is looking hella cheap to me.

>>19022887
i googled it and cant seem to find any website - is it from a book or is there a website?

>>19024061
there is some conjecture and hearsay, if you believe anime enthusiests on a bitcoin containment board

>>19024094
Its ok, i was negative 40% on memes all 2016 until the election, doubled my money overnight by switching to bluechips on election day (LMT, BA, AKS all tore shit up when Trump got elected)

>>19024098
thanks, i usually just make embed editions, then post 2 seconds after someone like you makes one, it gets exhausting

>>19024200
It's a collection of old books, it's difficult to find any copies of it online. I got it off 4chan, and reverse image search gave me JCA books which isn't really saying much. Sorry anon, I can't help you more than that.

>>19022036
At least wait a week
If the market goes down "only" 50% you get double for your money
You brought a bit today, fine
But please wait just a bit for a good entry, they are easyer to spot then you might think

>>19022555
Stop trolling him
Tankers pay divies but they are at most a mid term position
I want to sell my tankers to some stupid boomer that doesn't understand this

>>19022316
I got a “Free ride violation” on Merrill. I was selling in a hurry, I bought and sold 19 shares of the same stock twice, basically selling the stock before the 2 day cash settlement went through. I freaked out when I saw the violation notification and called them up right away. I gave them the “I’m a new investor pls don’t ban me” line. They were actually really cool and said that because I called in right away and told them what’s up they wouldn’t flag my account. Dude actually talked for an hour to me to get me up to speed.

>>19022505
I was out of the market all day. Crash soon.

>>19023037
unironically this, everyone should take it and buy SPY or similar

>>19022552
based Michael Burry MD poster

aw shit everyone left aready