/biz/ - Business & Finance

Reposting for visibility: https://youtu.be/hRAk__R30Kg
>Sven Henrich (@NorthmanTrader)
>Guy Adami, Dan Nathan (CNBC, Fast Money, etc)
Good stuff, real back and forth arguments, not just an echo chamber

AAAAAAAH BIG RED CANDLES

>>19006529
First for blood red premarket ..
First for BLACK MONDAY

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

>>19006529
wow how much is that, 900$? wow that guy must be really rich.

>>19006549
You guys said this last week too

>>19006552
More than you.

>>19006561
>Last week
>Green
Yeah, totally wrong there.

>>19006562
imagine simping a guy you don’t even know online, and then getting absolutely obliterated to boot

>>19006544
Henrich the perma bear who goes on CNBC to spout FUD? These are all just TV talking heads, do they even say anything worth hearing?

I am subbed to his twitter and whennever he pops up in my feed it's always smug bullshit that would lose me money if I took it seriously.

Weak bait not even worth a (you) poorfag

>>19006552
>>19006529
Nah 900 is nigger rich which means he is a bitch made nigger

>>19006571
You said this Sunday. You said it would be the bloodiest Monday in history. You said we would experience a second leg of the downturn. Nothing happened the entire week

Dont forget you still have time to sell in May and go away!
>its not too late
>this is real life nigga
>protect yo damn neck

>>19006520
>>19006545
Gilgamesh memes are the only good thing to come from that

maybe unlimited printer works too

>friendly reminder that excalibur is shittiest waifu in existence

Trannies SHOO! This is a conservative general!

>>19006590
Why on Robinhood

>>19006599
Go fuck yourself and your though index
>>19006592
Go fuck yourself you bitch made nigger. Obviously kites were the slippery slope to degeneracy personified.

>>19006590
Let me post my fake portfolio to impress random people online xD

No one cares.

>>19006614
I didn't say shit. You're mixing me up with someone else.

>>19006620
it has an appealing ui

What are you guys gonna do when you make it? Me? I'm gonna start living life.

>>19006620
>>19006642
Because he can't afford a real broker. Do you really think people invest more than $20,000 on some meme App? That image is edited.

Imagine not having bought every stock/fund on your wishlist here on the day that it is declared that the Kung Flu (mild cough) scare is over. This has been possibly our only chance ever to ride up with the big guys.

>>19006628
How much money are you losing you little gayboy?

>>19006640
>Let me post my fake portfolio to impress random people online xD
cope

>>19006647
2 chicks at the same time

>>19006657
Post your positions, then. And don't post them in 5 hours after you finished editing them.

>>19006656
Just stop responding to him, the kid is no more than 13. Filter his ID, that's what I did.

>>19006653
massive cope

>>19006628
What have you got against kites man

the "depression" was priced into the march dip. J shaped recovery now. bears on suicide watch.

>>19006673
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

>>19006529
Futures are so manipulated at this point, nobody is hoding it anymore, but they are 99% of the daily movement.

>>19006653
>Do you really think people invest more than $20,000

>>19006647
Buy property in Northern Arizona and move most of my shit up there for retirement with what is left of my family.

>>19006700
>on some meme App?

Don't just chop off the end off like that, anon. You're not a Rabbi by chance, are you? If so, give me back my foreskin.

>>19006694

>>19006689
more like l shaped

OH FUCK

ITS 13F WEEK EVERYONE!!!
GET READY TO SEE WHAT RENAISSANCE, BAKER BROS, BERKSHIRE, ETC HAS BEEN BUYING AND SELLING!!

>>19006647
More of the same, strict self improvement 5 days a week, dopamine addict on the weekends.

>>19006719

>>19006719
NO... THIS PEPE, IT CAN'T BE
WHY DOES IT FEEL... GOOD?

What's the best trading app to use?
Currently on RH, wondering if there's something better.

>>19006741
>he doesn't use his dopamine system to reward him for good behavior and build an addictive cycle that associates positive actions with positive feelings

>>19006712
There's an entire group of retards on Reddit who take pride in going into six-figures of debt over some scheme. All of them use Robinhood.
One allegedly is why box spreads are a ToS violation on the app now.

>>19006765
My cousin schlomo will trade your whole savings for you goyim.he ll buy you some good facebook stocks

>>19006767
That sounds like what he's doing though. I try to do the same thing. Eat healthy and work out during the week, splurge and get drunk on the weekends. Friday nights are amazing because of it.

>>19006656
>>19006673
Whatever you bitch made niggers are hanging around my nuts to get a taste. I bet you are Bearcucks who lost their top like an aftershock.

>>19006765
Td nigga

>>19006529
>nikkei and futures still green
>everyone in this thread talking about bearing
are you guys lying to me

What did they mean by this?

>>19006765
TD Ameritrade

The app is fine but their entire platform including the desktop site, the desktop client think or swim and all the available analytical devices make it the best.

>>19006789
No I can take the loss .. but we will slaughter you faggots soon ..
Bulls are blind and stupid ..

The Feds dont care about the market moron .. they have other things to worry about like global stability, and growth of the economy which cannot happen with an over valued stock market.

This is all a show and you are the clown

>>19006800
>>19006817
Alright thanks

>This man is real life Kaiji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efBG1YfuNhg

>>19006784
Pretty much yes. A few times a year I'll road trip/vacation as well, always somewhere new. Even then it's conservative, no drugs, moderate on the alcohol, take real friends when I can, make new ones when I can't.

>>19006832
Good luck, I'm behind 700 stop loss orders.

>>19006814
Hmm.
>>19004239

>>19006832
>Printer goes brrrrr
Prepared to get steamroller by the fed you bitch made nigger. Nothing has to make sense in this market and its about time you bears see that.

>>19006770
oh lulz,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zW86yXg7RM

>>19006832
THIS X100

You’re delusional if you can’t see that this house of cards is valued in a bubble and the first domino has already tipped over, one day a reckoning will come, and no one will be using Netflix and the reddit meme says “haha gold price goes OOOOOOOOOOOOO” and basically the US dollar is going to Weimar and you’ll be living in a favela that used to call the USA because everyone lost their jobs and you thought a lack of liquidity and a short-squeeze was causing the stock market’s violent move up but ACKSHUALLY it’s just money printing because the stock market is meant to reflect the current employment numbers and NOT earnings for decades to come.

I sold everything.
Go and do likewise.

Pensions are still fucked.
State funding is still fucked.
Unemployment is still fucked.
Corporate debt is still fucked.
Retail is still fucked.
Travel is still fucked.
Oil is still fucked.
Car loans and mortgages are still fucked.
Student loans are still fucked.

But most importantly >>19006550 is still fucked.

>>19006852
And they will all be triggered and panic selling will commence and your little gay gains wont be shit.

We bears will inheret the market and those idiot bulls that hold will have bags and a bunch of over valued shares in an economy with massive inflation

>>19006873
Then go all in right now on TVIX and SQQQ you bitch made nigger

>>19006900
Oh i am faggot .. all in on Tvix .. on robinhood ..
Which will make all sweeter when you get demolished

Should I buy more Pfizer?

Can any Mutual fund anons tell me if AIVSX is a good fund? My friend has had it for three years and I am not well-versed in the area.

>>19006900
You cant hold the line bitch

>>19006898
You're far too late, bobo. I've already made around $55k. My little gay gains are safe. A selloff would let me buy back those shares for even less money, and the cycle will repeat.

>>19006933
Go ahead you bitch made nigger. I'm holding fang, I hope the markets play a trap card in your favor.

The plan with my stock portfolio:
>VIX < 30
Begin selling swing positions and not buying to compensate (current)
>VIX < 30 for 3+ weeks
Buy up as many bull ETFs with good returns as possible. SOXL, SPXL, URTY (the current underdog), CURE, TQQQ, FNGU (probably overperforming now) with rebalancing into winners every 6-12 months. One definite consequence of QE is ALWAYS inflation of equities.
>Why buy instead of calls?
To hold enough eventually to do covered calls
>VIX alerts check daily. If VIX > 30, sell everything. Go into small swing trade positions during downturn
>Do you care if the old boomer with dementia in the white house is orange?
Nope!
>Do you care if the rally is fake and gay?
Nope! My other assets will hedge against that.
>Isn't passive investing a future bubble down the line?
Probably, but don't care!
I need suggestions for other leveraged Bull ETFs to look at. I am going to ride this bitch, even or especially if she is fake and gay, as hard as I can.

>>19006952
Ahahahaha bitch .. there is no floor.
Prepare for months of bleeding with moments of desperation of reversal

THERE IS NO FLOOR

Natgas going back to 1.6?

>>19006972
I remember when I was bear and made several grand when this shitstorm started day after day but right now you bears are pathetic. This is beyond CAPITULATION you bitch made niggers

>>19006972
>there is no floor
Okay, how does that affect me? I've already sold my stock at a profit. What do you think a stop loss order does?

I've come to the realization that the only people who post here are either new to stocks or need some sort of emotional validation for where they put their money.
Anyone who has an objective system for consistent returns has no reason to post or share anything here.

>>19006986
I went 75% in on March 24th and am up 513% YTD. I made a fucking killing, but I'm all cash now because I'm not a retard who just started trading this year and know that we are due for a retracement. Enjoy holding MM bags in your 5 figure account, zoomzoom.

I’m I a dumb nigger to think DIS is a cheaper tesla that will moon when it says it’ll open up

>>19007006
I never lose money but year after year I make at least 25% overall. I make fast money and easy money but lose it on bitch made nigger meme stocks

>>19007006
I have slowly come to the terrible revelation that none of you know what the fuck you are doing. I have a Master's in Accountancy with a minor in Finance. I work for a fortune 100 as a corporate accountant with a CMA and CPA. I used to have some faith in anon. None of you know how to actually value a company. You have no fucking clue how taxes work. You can't read financial statements. For fuck's sake you think TA works and the entire field of decision science churns out dissertations every other day highlighting their absolute dismay at the fact that brainlets ever consider using it. You have no idea what Dunning-Kruger is. You don't know what survivorship bias is. You are too fucking uneducated and stupid to comprehend how fucked you are.

Idk why I'm even posting this, fucking good luck kids.

>>19006995
Itll happen during premarket or futures so your dumb ass gets trapped and the circut breakers wont save you.
We had limit down during futures in march. How easily you forget. Your little 1% dailys will get wiped before you even get a chance to get out

>>19007006
So which one of those are you?

>>19007006
Actual traders do all they can to avoid the opinions and insight of others.

>>19007006
This place was honestly so good before corona now it’s all bulllshit and crying instead of. Actual info

>>19006562
$3000 paycheck this week

>>19006894
Yes, but did you consider priced in?

>>19007022
Well I have nothing to say to that you BITCH MADE NIGGER but keep posting traps you guy asswad.

>>19006995
>actually using stop losses
holy fuck how are are you dude

Looks like futures are about to fall over. Fucking finally. Time for a blood red week.

>>19007030
>>19007006
Yeah, I feel the same way. Most of the posts are made by 14-15 year olds who have less than $1,000 invested. But you're forgetting that there are some quality posters, but they won't be here while the markets are closed.

>>19007006
You are forgetting the ones that think shilling their position will influence the price as if it was small cap crypto or penny stocks. I think that might fall under both though.

>>19007056
Why are you kids obsessed with trannies? Traps have been gay since at least 2006 when I started shitposting on /b/.

>>19007048
Woooooooooooooow!!!!! SOOO RICH!!!!!! No one cares.

>>19007069
I'm not the one posting traps you bitch ass nigger

OH NO NO NO NO
YOURE FUCKED MUMU
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>19007059
Double top .. head and shoulders .. M = for MURDER..

SELL IN MAY GO AWAY

I have a bunch of oil production futures. Do I just unload or hold? They will probably go back up at some point and I'm alright with long holding.

>>19007064
>But you're forgetting that there are some quality posters, but they won't be here while the markets are closed.
If anything you get more trash during the day. The autistic "BEAR/BULL" cheerleading just leads to even less productive posting.
"OOOOOOOH"
"AHHHHHHHHH"
"WHAT WAS THAT"
"X DILDO"

>>19007046
mostly correct but there was still a lot of /pol/retards coming in.

>>19007006
There's some truth to that, but there's also some fun and camaraderie, and people besides me used to post when important news hits.

>>19006673
gas the kites, balloon war now!

>>19007031
>muh premarket
>muh futures
Doesn't work that way kid. No floor to your IQ. No ceiling to the level of cope in that post.

>>19007078

Ready for a magic trick? Its called limit down ..

>>19007082
Unironically exit all markets. If it’s under a 5% loss I would take the hit and re-enter later.

>>19007082
If you are alright with long holding why would you unload it?

>>19007090
This post reeks of cope. You’re not one of those r*dditors who honestly believes stocks only go up, right?

>>19007078
>Still green
Jesus you guys are hilarious.

>>19007098
You wont be able to re enter for years ... there is no saving this corpse

Retards ITT still haven't learned that premarket and futures are just smaller investors betting on what they think the actual market will do. Fuck this shithole board. It's legitimately making me insane

>>19007103
He is .. also he is a fag

>>19007101
I do kind of want to just get some money.

>>19007006
Nah, you were always a bitch made nigger

Monday is a green day.
Crypto is a scam for retards.

>>19006844
Cool vid thanks

>permabulls
FUCKED
>permabears
SLIGHTLY LESS FUCKED
>chad trend traders
EXTREMELY COMFY

>>19006592
2040 is the year pedophilia will be legalised.

screencap this

>>19007103
Dude if everything was based on futures you bitch made niggers would be making more money on the regular but you dont.

>>19007122
Thats why it gapped up with virtualy no volume this week in futures right? Idiot

>>19007030
WTF. I am here to make fast and easy money, not to make it a regular job with studies and researches and executions. If I can do that why don't I just get a real job with guaranteed income.

>>19007098

So what is your actual play this week? All cash? puts? SQQQ?
Easy to criticize when no one gets to call you out in retrospect.

>>19007140
Capped. See you in 20 years you motherfucker.

>>19007152
Tvix all in tomorrow. Youre welcome

>>19007139
>bulls
Making double their money
>bears
cucked to oblivion
>Chad traders
Laughing at bitch made niggers like you

>>19007030
hello redit

How about a topic that isn't red/green team cheerleading?
I think Canada and even Australia will be 2020's "2008 Greece".

>>19007040
Pro traders are just fucking pissed not buying the dip and angry at noobs doing that. How's your delta neutrality working for you?

>>19007195
What fucking trader would hold a position a month and a half later?

>>19007103
>n-no you
Good one faggot, how much have you lost?

>>19007195
This.

MUMU ARE YOU OK???
ARE YOU OK MUMU?????

>>19007064
but they have the same edge as you do. it's always 50-50.
>but muh risk management
yes, you reach the gambler's ruin in 10 painful years. they reach it in 10 minutes and save 10 years of their lives.

bobos...i...i don't feel so good...

>>19007206
You just said “no u” back you fucking leddit nigger lmaoooo

>>19007234
Yeah I feel pretty good. Thanks for asking

>>19007165
>>19007145
>>19007126
>>19007110
>>19007094
>>19007081
>>19007031
>>19006972
>>19006950
>>19006933
>>19006898
>>19006832
>>19006778
>>19006549
are you really so angry and vindictive because you made literally zero money during this dip? what a cuck

>>19007168
lmao

>>19007178
Can only hope both are just a joke of a country and it’s an insult that they’re mentioned in the same breath as when speaking of America

>>19007235
False equivalency.
Nothing stops the ones with skin in the game from gambling 1k here and there. The more you have, the more conservative you will be.

>>19006642
Dude no fucking way, post a blacked out bank statement. No way full stop.

I will suck your dick if you have 90 million on robbinhood. I will actually suck your dick.

No one is that dumb unless you made money on insane bets.

>>19007244
Seethe

this girl is asian

short: W, PTON, ZM (late may or june puts), EMAN (shares)
long: RTX (june calls or shares)

ASX: WPL

>>19006590
>$90 million portfolio
>Uses gay millennial phone app to trade
kek

>Missed out on opportunity to short the market before Covid crash
>Missed out on opportunity to long the market right after
>Down 10% since mid march
Opportunities like this might never come again and I fucking botched it.

oil resumes dump 3rd week of may and into 1st week of june, war drums resume end of 1st week june. don't axe me how i know. part of the tribe.

>>19007380
what do you mean? oil and aviation stocks are at their lowest.

>>19007380
it's over....or is it....

>>19007384
Thanks Onkle Moshe. Should I invest in ICL for maximum gains?

Should I buy more Pfizer?

>>19007409
Most oil stocks seem to be half of their highs.

Also for MLPs, what are your guys picks?
USAC/ET/EPD?

>>19007427
I did.

>>19007409
>what do you mean? oil and aviation stocks are at their lowest.
oil stocks are up at least 100% from a few weeks ago.

>>19007380
get some CPE niggær, thank me on Tues

>>19007425
>ICL
mktcap already huge but could be a good long-term hold, OK looking chart. with israel you just win. especially if they make those phospherous poppers that rain down hatred on the palestinians

>>19007380
Could be worse, you could have shorted the bottom, theres still opportunities out there.

>>19007384
Iran or Venezuela?

Ah shit. I forgot about the halving thing might actually discourage crypto miners... any chance NVIDIA and AMD get fucked again when a bunch of miners return their shit or demand falls off a cliff?

>>19007507
VZ. they have some americans captured, can't let that happen, makes us look weak. imagine letting your own idiot mercs botch an op in some 3rd world shithole. VZ has gold and oil, the two things USA loves the most. the first being most important. iran isn't really much of a threat right now. can their missiles even reach israel? they've been talking about nuking tel aviv for decades. limpdick persian faggots.

How do I short white women.

>>19007591
By not simping.

>>19007591
Buy BDIX, because once you go black, you’re a single mom.

>>19007591
SNAP, SBUX, FB

Can you guys tell me about OilK vs USO???? I'm thinking about going all in on Oilk.

please respond.

oh no no no no?????

AQST big week

WHY IS IT RED WHAT THE FUCK

>>19007591
by dating and fucking only light-skin latinas, armenians and asians.

>>19007591
Why would you do that? Are you retarded? Do you expect single men to disappear so the demand for attractive women will decrease?

The thotbubble doesn’t pop because the demand is inelastic. As long as there are men, there is high demand for pussy. ESPECIALLY quality white pussy, but Asian and Latina as well.

bull bros....... we got too cocky......

GUYS IT'S THE DUMPENING GUUUYYZ IT HABBEEENIINGG

He (I) was right...

>>19007652
And red gone. Crab continues.

>>19007567
Iran has been annihilated without a shot fired. The oil price war had fucked them after the coronavirus ravaged them and the sanctions hit them hard. There’s no reason.

Venezuela? For the gold and oil? No that’s also silly. It’s possible if it looks like trump will lose the election, but I don’t see that happening. War is a last resort effort to secure reelection.

it's green you stupid faggots.

I said yesterday that the market was being manipulated in an attempt to rebound on "inevitable" good news.

However the good news never came and so the collusion by the PPT is done. They will let the market fall

>>19007567
I've heard VZ has also gotten uppity now that Guyana has oil, even claiming some of the discovered fields are theirs. Iran says those things publicly, but even they have synagogues in Tehran.

>>19007159

daughterfucker*

>>19007703
But the PPT is propping it up further and further in the last days / weeks?

>>19006552
for you

>>19007712
i suspect Iran is full of shit and they're also puppets, like fake villains for US to shadowbox against. wtf was that obama payment to iran, just giving them free billions, shit like that is very suspicious.

VZ is more of an interesting place. the potential economic gains there are high. it makes more sense for US to conquer central and south america than the mideast. just the vacation/tourism gains and beachfront real estate is worth more than the potential oil and gold. this is why i think everything is fake and gay. a truly powerful country would completely btfo these S. and central am places and turn them into valuable real estate. they did it with hawaii, puerto rico, virgin islands, they just took it.

has china peaked? looks like they peaked in 2018, and not even their enron-tier pumping and book cooking can prop it up past their ATH. pretty sad considering the amount of debt the PRC has taken on in the past 2 years trying to stimulate their economy.

>>19007772
Same can be questioned about US.

>>19007078
>inb4 +1% at open

>>19007772
>>19007789
Chinas entire economy is magnitudes more fake than the US stock market.

How far beyond current price does one sell puts if I dont mind holding the underlying but might as well make some premium until it is at a price I like.

>>19007823
Look at the implied volitility and set it somewhere around higher than that.

>>19007740
>>19007703
Any more info on PPT and their recent actions?

I have suspected futures are being manipulated to keep the markets up. buying futures at night so the market gaps up would be the cheapest way to support the market.

I would like to trade on PPT if their is anyway to actually know what they're up to.

BULLS ARE FUCKED
>BULLS ARE FUCKED
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BULLS ARE FUCKED
>BULLS ARE FUCKED
BULLS ARE FUCKED
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>>19007772
we're at the flipping point where china doesn't want to continue lending to US and EU to prop up their net-consumer populations so they are shaking things up. worse case scenario is hot war. china is calling in debts. but they can also tank their economy by hurting their biggest customers.

futures look so weak, fake and gay. like a bird with a broken wing trying to fly.

>>19007805

I'm financially illiterate, but I'm a competent tactician. China is the undisputed champion of bullshit and garbage. They grind their citizens into dust just for fun. Nothing gets the CCP's cock harder than stealing organs from a small child. I can only imagine what they do with their finances. Judgement day is coming.

can you tell me about China's finances? what is their game? short story maybe???

>>19007844
This could be a massive hit to the stock market. Low intrest rates are the main thing pushing it higher right now. If T bill increase the equity market is going to hurt.

Too bad I lost all my money buying puts for the last two months.

>>19007842
See you at 3000

I bought calls after doing daily shorts that worked until Friday decided to swap to an up trend. If we open high enough I'll sell my calls right away, otherwise hope for the 6:30-10:00 pump and sell then. Gonna wait to see what happens with the market tomorrow and Tuesday and see if we're still going to be aftermarket pump into active hours dump or is PPT giving up.

>>19007740
But they stopped as of now.

The job report informed all colluders that the sham was pointless because all of this year will continue downward. There isn't a v recovery, so they have stopped

>>19007844
>>19007864
>China is calling debts
You make it sound like thats good more China when it means China is bankrupt and desperate.

>>19007861
Literally everything in China is fake. Buildings, bridges, food, steel, stock market, companies, everything.
See: The China Hustle, Claws of the Red Dragon, and many videos on youtube explaining these things., just search the topics I mentioned.

>>19007895
First 3 hours of future opening are telling me another story again, but time will tell. So far futures are the only driving motor of this rally.

>>19007844
china lending to the west is a meme at this point. yes, china is the USA's biggest foreign creditor, but its a much smaller piece of the pie than it used to be. the usa actually lends more money to china than vice versa nowadays. china's biggest borrowers are african shitholes, and that relationship is straining because the chinks have exposed how much they hate niggers. a hot war is a fantasy at this point, the two countries are too reliant on eachother economically.

i unironically believe the CCP allowed the virus to spread internationally before attempting containment because they wanted the west's economy to get fucked as well. Xi and the princelings have been watching helplessly as the hang seng shit the bed for 2 years, slowly realizing their megalomaniac fantasies about a chinese century weren't going to happen. even if china does everything right, they're still in for decades long economic contraction because of their shrinking workforce.

FAANG is such bullshit. GOOG and FB make all their money from adds when the global ad market has collapsed and wont come back anytime soon. Apple makes luxury goods for the middle class and the world is moving into a global depression.

Everyone thinks these companies arn't cyclical. Maybe that was true when their earnings were growing like a rocket ship, but it's not true now.

Fuck I'm pissed. I got screwed on my shorts bc the investment community thinks tech stocks are counter cyclical. I hope there are massive lay offs in finance after this turd lands.

What stocks are you holding? How much upside is there before they pull the rug

>>19007756
Iran is a very dysfunctional place, an entire society and an ancient culture were suddenly forced to larp as shia militants. A government so disconnected and paranoid it creates redundant and parallel agencies in case the normal ones rebel.

Attitudes towards imperialism changed, ironically the tribe had a hand in that. What do you do with the people? Most central american countries are shitholes, and a country without people is just empty land. Costa Ricans are the exception.

>>19007927
Even if china only buys maybe 20% of all T bills if that demand is removed it could have a massive effect on the price. You don't have to change demand by that much to make prices change drastically.

I'm not saying china could or couldn't tank treasuries. Just that bc china isn't the biggest bidder doesn't mean they can't have a big effect.

>>19006592
All of those things unironically made society worse

>>19007914
>Claws of the Red Dragon
>that hilarious Steve bannon movie
Nice

>>19007927
Their population age is top heavy in the extreme.

They had two decades starting in 2016 to try to correct their age demographics and they've already fucked the dog.

Think of it as a larger great leap forward but the workforce just disappears over time instead of starving.

>>19006592
This proves why jews must be sent back to Hell.

>>19007979
also pretty sick that the child is claiming to be trans. Only a seriously sick mind could think that is alright.

>>19007944
iran will crumble within the next 10 years, easily. it's going to be like the collapse of USSR but it will be shitty muslim countries. at this point pakistan is more of a credible threat than iran.

>>19007927
i know it's a meme, the biggest owners of US debt is clearly who ever owns the central banks. wonder who that is. china is just another fake villain puppet, paper tiger, whatever you want to call it.

HK protests was US-Zog trying to shake shit up with china, and china retaliated by releasing the bioweapon right at the start of lunar new year.

>>19007861

Futures look like they want to fall to 2910 but won't o_O
>>19007914
>Claws of the Red Dragon
hell yeah, the Huawei girl was qt. What are Guo Wengui's ultimate goals I wonder

>>19008007
>>19007944
I don't get what's wrong with Iran? They oppose isreal and saudi arabia. They don't sponsor terrorism in the west only against their regional competitors. Also they don't tolerate degeneracy. Seems pretty based to me.

I know they are under a huge amount of external pressure from u.s and isreal, but is there actually any internal opposition?

>>19007927
A lot of China's lending to Africa is designed to fail. They repossess key facilities when African countries can't pay up.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2018/09/16/chinas-loans-strategy-a-disguise-for-recolonization-of-african-countries/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/world/asia/china-sri-lanka-port.html

>>19007959
that would be silly. the USA owns nearly 7 trillion of chinese debt. china owns only 1 trillion of us debt

Anyone still have the MEGA or torrent link of Anton Kriel's courses? I've seen it posted in /biz/ before but unfortunately my drive crashed so I lost my copy.

>>19007740
Even titanic tipped up on the way down.
World economy is beyond fucked. Depression is inevitable.
>>19007048
That's not $3,000. Even in brand new FRB straps they are thicker than that. Why even larp. That's $1000, if that.

>>19007929
>I'm not wrong, the market is wrong!

>>19008037
Yaya, gwim you see Tanzania telling them to eff off lol? I've heard some contrarian takes that China's policy of predatory lending to Africa might come back to bite them. You know the saying about how if you owe the bank 10k you're in trouble, if you owe them 10 billion they're in trouble?

>>19008036
nothing is "wrong" with iran. i am just playing the devils advocate and trying to see what's going to happen next. iranian govt does not equal iranian people. surely there's a ton of iranians who dream of leaving their country because they think life is so much better in other places.

If we do enter a global depression what happens? Will we see more conflicts, will the EU/China collapse?

How can I long the depression with stocks?

>>19008070
I'm talking about future earnings not present. The market is making a wrong assessment of future earnings.

Thats how you make money btw. you have a different assessment or different information to the market. if you are on average more correct than the market you win if not you lose.

>>19008037
Imagine trying to collect money from Africans.

>>19008103
They're not trying to collect. They repossess ports and key national security objectives as collateral.

>>19008089
Borders close, 3rdworld shit holes starve. America will be fine. Europe/Japan/ME a little less fine. Everyone else, especially China, will be fucked.

>>19008026
wtf....

I was a steel worker for 3 years... jesus christ....

if my boss ever found chink shit in our deliveries, he would immediately reject it. none of our customers wanted it. in fact, local inspectors would automatically fail certain buildings if they had any chinese steel in them. they would make you cut out the entire joint of steel.

>>19008103
doubt it. Or maybe you're seeing a bunch of vacationers. White californians are fleeing to Texas like there is no tomorrow. They even form little clicks after they get here. My cousin works at a tech company and no one in his circle of friends/ coworkers is a native Texan.

White liberals from blue states are 10x worse than non-whites.

>>19006529
You are hedging your positions by holding gold miner ETFs, aren't you anon?

>number go up

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how do you all feel about calendar spreads? I've been doing diagonals so far, but with the vix dropping like it has, I kind of want a volatility play that's cheaper with a reasonable chance of profit. does anyone want to share their experiences with calendars?

>>19008157
Gold miner ETFs are beyond retarded. I nearly typed up a detailed post explaining why but decided to let you DYOR. I’m not saying don’t hold them if you want, but they are absolutely not a hedge of any sorts. >>19008166

>>19008075
Pretty based

https://www.maritime-executive.com/editorials/tanzania-pushes-back-on-chinese-port-project

>>19008089
Yeah, it causes wars, it upsets power balances and changes the structure of societies. Look at the events leading up to the first WW. Economic spats at the core of it, drivers of events that lead to other events that lead to war. Then the second one, throw some more economic woes and some residual effects from last time. Not like it's going to be tomorrow. It certainly won't be, even. But 20, 30 some odd years down the road.
You can't long a depression. You can't even short it. Visualize a capital L. That's what markets are now.
>>19008125
When China's fucked we're fucked too and so is the eurozone. They owe a shit ton of money and are flipping on their debts. Then we flip on ours. We're fucked for our own domestic reasons anyway. Namely the 15 going on 20% unemployment.

>>19008166
Finns are inbred snow monkeys

>>19008180
>VIX
>dropping
Yeah give it a day or two and that’ll change mate.
>t. was bull for past 6 weeks

How long until the next happening? Feels weird going more than a week without a new happening.

>>19008199
Are we gonna get a tom clancy's end war scenario
US vs. EU vs. Russia (China now).

Because obviously the EU is getting uppity and must be brought back into the american fold.

Seeing a lot of seditious content tonight... I don't like it. Some of you crumb-bums can't tell your ass from your elbows and you see fit to criticize the US foreign policy. Get a clue. You could AT LEAST post some pretty pictures to look at or some helpful infographics.

>>19008112
Repossess... in other words, they have the military power to say "you owe us this"? So they're just creating pretext to annex africa now?

>>19008195
Thinking about diversifying from just holding barrick into maybe some franco nevada or something, got any good ideas if the etf's are no good?

Been reading this board for two months, messing around with RH. I own VOO, VUG and MGK. Should I consider TLT? Value funds to match the growth funds? I’ve heard the Gold/Bitcoin as a hedge banter to death, thanks

>>19008234
We're heading for The Bear and the Dragon, EU is too weak to project.

Fuck China

>>19008228
It already happened.
>>19008234
Don't know. The players change in crises. That's what causes conflicts. Those conflicts not necessarily drawn along familiar lines.
>>19008251
Not sure if naive or just cavalier.

>>19008251
Roughly yes, collateral for the projects are key ports. I'm not sure how normal that is though. Seems to be something right out of the eternal anglo playbook.

>>19008234
Anglosphere vs everyone else (and they win). Albion is the final boss of history.

>>19008265
BABA is the next Amazon

>>19008279
Don't you mean JMIA, the Amazon of Africa.

Lads I'm getting nervous. I need to trim my position by nearly half BUT about half of it is stuck in sell calls. I do not want to sell the shares that are free on the chance the sell calls are assigned BUT at the same I don't want to hold them on the chance that stocks plummet and the sell calls go unassigned leaving me with a huge position.

Getting real nervous something big is happening to the market soon.

>>19008202
whiter than you ahmed.

>>19008267
It started out as a real sentiment but veered off course. I think there's a lot of very foolish misrepresentation and misunderstanding of facts that goes on here largely due to the outsized influence of /pol/ on the rest of the chans.

but then i just decided to get silly with it.

>>19008279
BILI is the next Netflix/Facebook??

>>19008297
nordic people are like inferior germans... like the ones who had to like in cold places because they were so annoying

>>19008263
Will the EU be a no mans land or Russia's playground while the US is fighting in asia against China?

How likely would the Gopniks try to do a land grab vs full on invasion of former Soviet Lands.

>>19008327
about 47.4 %

what's a good hail mary bet? i was thinking extremely short term SPY puts; betting ill get lucky and it'll crash within the week.
i personally think its going to crab, but im not brave enough to sell options. i'd rather put a little money in and have a 10% chance of hitting

>>19008297
You guys aren't even European, you are just a bunch of snow mongolians. GTFO with your Uralic language.

>>19008327
Imagine thinking war in the 21st century would be performed as physical combat

>>19008343
don't be educated stupid

>>19007632
Oil ETF's are not oil barrels you retard. USO is going to zero

>>19008360
Dang how I am gonna get my purple heart and war bride.

>>19008327
This is what Dugin's galaxy brain idea of the future is. He doesn't understand that Anglo-Dutch mercantile liberalism simply cannot be stopped.

So are things starting to bounce back now that quarantines are being loosened?

>>19008315
>finns
>nordic

also
>germans
>not inferior nordic people

up $1.3k today. $7.5k from breaking even

we gonna make it boys

>>19008360
This. It's gonna be killer drone swarms and orbital bombardments.

>>19008420
>breaking even
>ever
you don't belong here

>>19008279
Sure Jack,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R_FnI_PUDU

>>19008007
>the biggest owners of US debt is clearly who ever owns the central banks
actually it's the US citizens, via the social security fund.

>>19008403
Bounce back to where? We are already near ATH, lmao.

>>19008362
im already not be educated

>>19008392
>Dugin's
what the hell is this guy doing? Just trying to feed the higher-ups their cream-dream of the future?

You seem to mention him a lot, you read his stuff or something?

>>19007840
Thanks fren!

>>19008440
>Two unqualified people talk about things they haven't got a clue about

Yep, that pretty much sums up capitalism right there.

most oil stock on my watchlist up 5% green except the shit i bought which has hardly fucking moved, i really want to get rid of it

Holy shit market make up your mind. I'd like to trade but i'm not gonna if we're crabbing like this at a time when volatility can spike wildly without notice.

>>19008504
Is it USO? Because you should dump that shit ASAP.

>>19008392
Never seen a worse map before, literally no one wants to be a Russian in Eastern Europe. Why would anyone which sides to Russia? Why would there be countries in turmoil when there's a clear enemy before their eyes, that would make everyone more unified. Global trade and money is a powerful drug.

>>19008522
no, NBLX

Any call/put recommendations boys

I don't like investing when a stock is in the green. I feel dirty when I make the average cost per share go up.

>>19008134
I know few Steel PHD researchers (one is 9th gen steel foundrymen family ) who wont touch the stuff, wont even inspect it, just automatic reject all stock from china for same reasons

shit is fucking retarded for a "major" power in the 21st century

>>19008538
Don't. Buy shares in good quality companies for the long term.

>>19008553
Writing cash covered puts for good companies for the long term you mean?

>>19008519
The market crabs, but there will be winners and losers because of coronavirus, the key is to pick the winners.

>>19008549
Hold on, what's wrong with Chinese steel? Steel isn't steel? Different alloy or something? Yes I'm a brainlet

>>19008549
My dad works for Nintendo and he said that Microsoft stock is bad

>>19008538
stay in cash until something happens. in sort of normal market conditions when things flatline you would generally want to bet on low volatility with option spreads. however, because of corona chan and oil situation that isn't a safe bet at all.

>>19008538
ZM puts expiring in June. This shit will tank because of mediocre earnings.

>>19008134
>>19008549
How does it feel that our steel industries are getting wrecked by these inferior suppliers though?

CLF, X, CRS, STLD

>>19008574
Chinese manufacturing of steel quality is absolute shit when it comes to the quality of ores used and the process as well. They cut corners on everything.

>>19008466
Premier National Bolshevik philosopher and activist, he's kind of a big meme but kind of not. His (and Liminov's) work used to be mega controversial and suppressed for being too nationalistic and crazy, but after Putin wrangled the oligarchs he's rumored to have taken a liking to it. Think of him kind of like Trump:Bannon::Putin:Dugin. A lot of the stuff he says is flat out impossible, but it presents a really interesting alternative strategy for Russia to preserve and expand it's power during the next hundred years. Nobody in the west is really sure how seriously he's taken in Russian government, but he's required reading among Russian military officers and a lot of the war in Donbass seems straight out of his plans.
I'm more interested in him since he's a litoral wizard, he has a really crazy left-hand path occult system he practices while at the same time espousing a return to traditional Orthodox christianity among the people. What could that mean? He also obsessively reads a lot of """hip""" accelerationist philosopher-magicians from the west, and makes really funny videos talking about secret black suns within the earth and resisting the flow of magickal time.
>>19008532
It's pretty silly lol, also old o_o

>>19008573
the problem is if the indexes jerk one way or the other it will affect nearly all stocks whether they are usually correlated or not. Even safe stuff like water and electric utilities dropped in the March crash.

>>19008566
I am doing covered calls, but this week I am playing Draft kings because the premiums are insane.

Some of you Mumus are alright, you don’t talk shit after every green 1m candle. Don’t go long today.

>>19008624
if my son starts dressing like this im just gonna kill him

PPT team is pushing it through another resistence in no time. 2950 will be broken soon.

>>19008661
Easiest 1k I've made. Futures just don't go red anymore.

>>19008593
I mean winners like clorox that made new highs, roku, uranium stocks, Healthcare stocks. Whatever wins from coronavirus.

>>19008673
Find the pattern and make money off of it. Good job anon.

IBKR is awful and SLOW

>>19008581
>AKS no longer a stock, my handful of shares got liquidated this year

saw the news that the AK steel plant in Detroit was closing down recently, shit was the first continuous caster I ever saw in person

shits depressing bro

cant wait for heads to start rolling...

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>>19008392
if we are going to make fantasy predictions why not just full on fallout's nuclear magic?

>>19008701
Whats gonna happen to our steel industry? Is it just a bunch of zombies or are we gonna see a resurgence of US steel when everyone starts shitting on China?

>>19008574
You really are a retard. Everything Chinese, including the soulless insectoid people, is less than shit. They are yellow kikes that belong in Hell.

Every Friday bears say “Black Monday incoming” and every Sunday we are green as Pepe the fuckin frog. Join the bull side bobo. It’s comfy over here.

>>19008759
Costa Rica in a republic with Nicaragua.
They'd sooner die.

>>19008766
Nah, that shit won't happen, itd be too high a cost to our economy. Deglobalization is like gun control, people talk shit, politicians say change is coming, nothing happens, everybody forgets about it in a few months, rinse and repeat

>>19008659
that's tweetny. thank me for your cooms later.

>>19008766
depends on what we spend on infrastructure (real infrastructure that needed updating back in the 1980's, not that fucking wall)

so at the current rate its going to implode like a dying star

>>19008804
>They'd sooner die.
thats kind of the implication smart guy

>>19008804

>>19008804
they get kind of vague with the prewar story ( or used to) because the whole point was it doesnt matter who launched the first nukes, because humanity lost

>imagine still being a bear right now

>>19008923
>they think an economic downturn due to a virus is in any way the same as the financial meltdown of 2008

>>19008873
Costa Rica has no military nor will it have a military. Theyre one of the few demilitarized countries in the world. Also one of the like dozen countries not at war currently.

>>19008923
Based as always, still got your TQQQ?

>>19008786
This, I always notice this when I log onto biz. Next Monday now

>>19008944
THIS OMG it's finally been said

>>19008944
>I think I'm smart enough to time the market
>I think I'm smart enough to play against the market's long-term trend
Got any pics of your all-time? I know mine are easily available

>>19008961
Not a single sell order since sometime in 2019.
>pic related
No sales until the next all-time high of the S&P.
Also, I never bought any TQQQ. Just SPXL, SSO, and QLD.

>>19008786
>Every Friday bears say “Black Monday incoming”
Facts.

>>19009070
I was agreeing with you
read my post again but take it from the perspective that I was mocking the bears along with you.

>>19009086
>I was agreeing with you
Thank you for your patience, sir.

>>19009086
Sorry about that. I'm just ready to fucking fight, man.
I think I'm gonna make a collage of all the smug bear posting from that stretch where I went very, very net negative.

oh no no no NO NO

>>19009145
Wtf are you on about?
Shit's flat. I don't see anything on the futures.

>>19009140
Bears are retarded. You can't fight the printer.
But 7% return over nearly 5 years? You would have gotten that with bonds....

>>19009162
down 0.5% almost red

Are indices following btc now?

>>19009175
Jesus Christ. Please just leave you stupid zoomer.

>>19009140
Wtf are you holding? 7% since 2016? You are even worse than bears.

>>19009140
>+7% in FOUR years during the most retarded strong bull run ever
wtf mate

>>19008689
Look at the red part above.

>>19009140
Nearly got half your profits with only 11k and less than 3 months investing, haha.

>>19009172
>But 7% return over nearly 5 years? You would have gotten that with bonds....

>I'm actually beating SPY over the past 1 year.
>I started with just $500 to $1500, which dilutes the gains. (that percent would shoot way up if I pulled out $40k to put me at my position from 12-18 months ago)
>I lost big money on LCI and a stint of degenerate options gambling.
Also, unlike comfy or teh_profit, I continue to post and contribute to survivorship bias.

>>19008369
USO to zero....explain

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>>19009213
See here.
>>19009222
No, you would not have beat my returns by using straight bonds instead.
This is what you have to look forward to if you keep depositing more money and gambling.

mumu?? mumu are u ok ?????? why is it red??? WHY IS IT BECOMING MORE RED

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>>19006705
Flagstaff is peak comfy