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Bullion Dealers

https://www.apmex.com/
https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://www.bgasc.com/
https://www.gainesvillecoins.com/
https://www.jmbullion.com/
https://www.providentmetals.com/
https://www.silvertowne.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://www.sprottmoney.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://www.goldenstatemint.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/
https://www.muenze-berlin.de/
https://www.hollandgold.nl/
https://www.europesilverbullion.com/
https://www.celticgold.eu/en/
https://www.muenzeoesterreich.at/eng/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/

>News
https://www.kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://www.mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://www.apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Open] [Open] [Embed] [Open] [Open] [Open] [Embed] [Embed] [Open]
https://www.usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo [Open] [Open] [Embed] [Open] [Open] [Open]
Magnets, how do they work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY [Open] [Open] [Embed] [Open] [Open] [Open]

>YouTube/Podcasts
https://www.youtube.com/user/silverguru David Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqmToXM7x2tD7-2rs0KvObA Silver Bullion TV
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXPvtSNFvh9FJrwN02crJ_A money metals exchange podcast
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver mike maloney's channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClzSFvylrK8ij3KVwrHzjdA As Good As Gold Australia

>> No.18980284

>>18979964
Just got a morgan silver dollar today. Thinking it will get me a blowjob from a formerly well to do house wife and her family of questionably underaged daughters all at the same time.

>> No.18980328

>>18979964
batbois?! Really?!

>> No.18980341

>>18980328
Im so glad I never bought this meme, its too over played.

>> No.18980469

In the current situation what do you get, 1 oz of gold or 100 oz of silver?

>> No.18980498

>>18980469
50 oz of silver and 1 ounce of gold

>> No.18980727

>>18980341
I'm seeing them at 100% over spot, is that about right?

at that rate they're numismatics, not bullion

>> No.18980749

Just wanted to say I’m trading 16 ounces of silver for a Tokarev pistol on Monday

>> No.18980758
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18980758

rate me m8..


My goal is to fill the chest up. 3*7*13*25 per tube, so around 7000 ounces... still a long way to go

>> No.18980777

>>18980749
That’s not the best deal

>> No.18980801

>>18980758
based anon with real goals

>> No.18980809

>>18980777
They’re 1oz sunshine bars, nothing special. I’m holding onto my eagles and junk silver

>> No.18980842

>>18980809
>sunshine bars
>not special

>> No.18981022

>>18980842
Don’t care. My tok will appreciate as fast as silver anyways

>> No.18981025

What does everyone think of treasury anon
>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/246338388/

He's claiming to leak $3k gold and $60 in the very near term due to disruptions in supply chain. His 60 day timeframe just ended, but this might be the month that we see massive failures of delivery and spiking prices.

I'm tempted to go out and buy more right now, but premiums are shit for US Mint coins. Do you think they will accept bars and generic rounds? I want to buy in bulk but literally cannot deal with the huge price disparity between US Mint and generic shit.

I think I'll stick to Gold Eagles and generic silver, I already have 60 ASEs and wanted to get to 100, but unless my local bullion dealer restocks, (they are priced at 22/ozt rn) Im not gonna do it.

>> No.18981069

>>18981025
Key Quotes:

>>announces that Treasury dollars are now available and backed by gold and silver at a rate of $100,000 treasury dollars per oz of gold.

>>I have been told there will be a time where you can convert physical gold and silver into treasury dollars tax free no questions asked at your local treasury vault.

>>There aren't that many people outside of God's plan that have been wise enough to acquire physical gold and silver. For those who heeded the warnings there will be a very positive outcome.

>> No.18981084

>>18981069
Tue 03 Mar 2020
>>Within the next six weeks look for gold $3000+ and silver $60+

>> No.18981121

>>18981025
>I want to buy in bulk but literally cannot deal with the huge price disparity between US Mint and generic shit.
the mint discounts almost all of that premium if you buy in bulk

you have to:
1. spend more than $10k per order
2. provide evidence that you're a licensed coin or bullion re-seller. In most states that just means having a business license with a coin-sounding name.

>> No.18981153

>>18981121
sadly I'm only looking to spend about 2k max, I have about 8k worth @ 60/40 gold silver.

>> No.18981320
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for me it's FtM barber liberty

>> No.18981413

>>18981153
yeah.

perhaps /pmg/ should start a coin shop and go in on orders together. I buy and sell coins online but I don't do bullion stuff. Not enough profit after I pay ebay and paypal.

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>>18979964
>>18981320
roll

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>>18979964
Want to learn about your regions mineral wealth, how to claim it and access it? Ask here and I ll give you a quick answer with some places to investigate.

Handy Links

How to gold pan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Embed]

How to read a river
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axOgdmI3o3g [Embed]

How to stake a claim
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_mtclaims.pdf
https://www.blm.gov/programs/energy-and-minerals/mining-and-minerals/locatable-minerals/mining-claims/staking-a-claim

Basic tools
> gold pan, shovel / pick, sniffer bottle, hand lens, pry bar, sledge hammer, 10 gallon buckets

Literature on prospecting
>The Guide to Gold Panning In British Columbia by Barlee, N. L.
>Gold Panning the Pacific Northwest: A Guide to the Area’s Best Sites for Gold

>> No.18981531

>>18980284
Based

>> No.18981567

>>18980284
>>18981069
why do these threads always contain both deranged sexual fantasies and bizarre religious syncretic worship of the gold standard

>> No.18981592

>>18981567
Hi, welcome to 4chan. First day?

>> No.18981594
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Reposting today’s flea market purchases

>> No.18981603

>>18981567
You won't be laughing when I buy a blowjob from your wife and your sister for a mercury dime when the greater depression hits.

>> No.18981671

>>18980758
need more gold m8

>> No.18981683

>>18981671
YOU WON'T BE LAUGHING WHEN YOUR WIFE IS SUCKING MY DICK!!! BOY!!

>> No.18981697

>>18981594
Very nice. how much for the ASE?

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>>18981594
Nice addition
I've been adding a few myself from apmex lately b/c of the lockdown

>> No.18981740

>>18979964
Gold. Silver.
Gold and silver.
Gold gold silver silver gold and silver.

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>>18981594
i need you to do me a f-favor and wash your quarters for me. can you do that for me, bucko?

>> No.18981797

>>18981697
10 blowjobs

>> No.18981816

>>18981697
$24 a piece. Not good but the line of people buying them made me pull the trigger

>> No.18981843

>>18981526
Hey pan man. It's the Creighton mine anon.

Do you know of any rivers around the Georgian bay area that produces metals? I frequent the parry sound to Sudbury area frequently in the summer.

>> No.18981886

Gold/Silver ratio 1:100oz?

>> No.18981912

>>18981886
No, it's currently at 110.

>> No.18981914

>>18981843
I ve honestly only heard whispers of placers in much of Ontario's shield region, there was simply too much glaciation, all the sediments that would hold gold were transported south and east. There are suppose to be placer gold and copper in a few major rivers nearby, but nothing conclusive. Might have to do a bit of your own digging to find out.

>> No.18982092

>>18981914
The shield is beautiful to look at and geologically is fascinating to study but I figured anything more than quartz, amethyst etc. would be tough to find, if it exists at all.

How about the municipality of Temagami? What do you know about this area?

>> No.18982157

When the time comes, who will you sell to?

>> No.18982193

>>18982092
I know its south of the famous Cobalt silver belt, but I have no records of mining in the area its self. Note, my records are incomplete and i get most of my info from online geologic reports. Just because I cant find anything doesnt mean its not there, its likely just not either digitized or under a different name. Let me get back to you later about it, I ll do some further digging and see what I can come up with.

>> No.18982197

>>18982157
Housewives and their questionably underaged daughters.

>> No.18982261

>>18982157
I plan on putting a picture of my stack up on eBay at a 20% discount of the melt price, but somewhere in the fine print of my listing I will say that I am only selling the picture of my stack. Hopefully someone doesn’t see that and I make the sale. They would have no legal recourse

>> No.18982293

>>18982261
That's a very boomer thing to do

>> No.18982308

>>18982157
>When the time comes, who will you sell to?

Buying a 20 acre farm in Maine and living out my life reading books and raising a family.

>> No.18982317

>>18982092
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mines_in_Temagami heres some basic info on the region but i cant actually access any geologic reports, the Ontario gov website for mineral sites is down. I am not sure why none of these mines came up on my first searches, lots of lode gold deposits.

>> No.18982341

>>18982261
>somewhere in the fine print of my listing I will say that I am only selling the picture of my stack
>They would have no legal recourse
this is brilliant. I wonder why everyone isn't doing that?

>> No.18982461

>>18981524
0-1 pls or 8-9 cause i want the shield

>> No.18982477

>>18981524
!

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>>18981816
yeah i spent almost 24/oz on some 2020 ASE's it was my trump bux though. so i don't feel bad about being gauged...
most projections have silver hitting at least 50/oz by 2024. thats still double your return in 4 years, and thats not bad

>> No.18982546

>>18982500
If solver were $50/toz ASE would probably fetch $60

>> No.18982575

>>18982546
i think it'll depend on the new design from the US mint, if it looks nicer then the current eagle. i could see demand for the ASE's dropping hard

>> No.18982584

>>18982193
>>18982317
Oh I believe it's there. Lots of small mining camps here and there throughout this province. Just really hard to get because of the shield. The MNR has posted many old surveys of random sites in the areas I was referring to. They have found gold. One survey suggested further exploration in the area, but nothing ever manifested.

There used to be an old mine on Temagami Island. Copperfield mine I believe it was called. I wonder if it's worth a paddle and exploration day to check out.

>> No.18982602

>>18982575
When do they revel the new look?

>> No.18982629

>>18982575
Why would they change it?

>> No.18982654

>>18982575
>i could see demand for the ASE's dropping hard
with more counterfeits on the market than the real thing it's probably going to tank.

>> No.18982696

>>18982654
>with more counterfeits on the market than the real thing it's probably going to tank.
ASE counterfeits are extremely easy to spot and faking a silver eagle isn’t worth the felony charge

>> No.18982721

>>18982546
>If solver were $50/toz ASE would probably fetch $60
Mint sells at spot+$2 so why would it be much more than $52?

>> No.18982744

>>18982721
Because the mint won’t sell it to regular people

>> No.18982745

>>18982602
>>18982629
just googled it, still no pics of the new design... the articles say it can be changed every 25 years so maybe they just wanted too...

>>18982654
they say the new coin will have multiple anti counter fitting measures built in

>>18982721
because in 2024, the ASE will have been out of production, which should boost the premium on them. unless of course the new design is just bad ass, then yeah i would expect that spot +3 price

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>>18982696
>ASE counterfeits are extremely easy to spot
not anymore
>and faking a silver eagle isn’t worth the felony charge
that's the sort of attitude that gets people in trouble.

this one is solid steel, but there's a shitload of mostly silver ones.

>> No.18982828

>>18982765
This would fail the magnet test

>> No.18982899

>>18982765
How would solid steel even look like the most reflective element in the universe? What about conductivity tests? What about density tests and magnetic tests?

>> No.18983040

Getting into precious metal investing. Was going to purchase some SilverTowne Silver round 1oz coins? Good or bad purchase at $20/ea?

>> No.18983058

>>18983040
Not horrible but not great.

>> No.18983112

>>18983040
Buffalos are pretty cool

>> No.18983130

>>18983058
>>18983112
Follow up. Are coins or ozt bars more preferred? For both gold and silver?

>> No.18983155

>>18983130
Personally for silver I like poured bars. I like monarch 2oz bars most of all

>> No.18983159

>>18983130
It doesn't matter too much, though if you're in the United states, it's more convenient to stack coins because of taxes.

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>>18983040
anon go to this website
https://findbullionprices.com/closest-to-spot/
its not always the most up to date, but it'll give you a good idea of what prices are right now.

also i would say hold off until you can get generics for 18/oz

holy fucking captcha batman...

bars are less collectable

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>>18983058
>>18983112
>>18983155
>>18983159
>>18983162
Thank you for the advice! Starting my trip down diversifying my portfolio into a bit of precious metals. Will probably check out some reputable online vendors and hopefully this will be a nice hobby/investment.

>> No.18983275

>>18981526
based

>> No.18983280

>>18982584
never hurts to check, I am sorry I cant give more info, I cant access the government website with the info.

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>>18979964
You buying physical gold and silver now you buying cheap
Premium at all time highs to spot
also- refer chart of the week
pic related

>> No.18983425

>>18983368
How do you get the 18k number? I'm only getting around $2800 at most.

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>>18983368
anon if gold ever hit 10k, i have a feeling lots of old money would magically find their grand parents stack of gold to cash in. hell think if one of those european ruling families cashed out, i bet there's dozens of those fuckers with tens of pounds of gold each, yeah it'll never make it that high before the demand gets flooded with supply

>>18983266
anon if you don't mind spending 20/oz on silver
https://sdbullion.com/2020-1-oz-silver-britannia-coin-bu?utm_source=findbullionprices.com
20.09 for a Britannia would be a much better deal

honestly i think its time to hold off on metals, crypto is about the crash and pump. time for some quick money and wait for the premiums to cool off.

>> No.18983688

>>18983425
Yeah it’s fake. No way the dollar has lost 95% of its purchasing power in 40 years. In 80 yes but not 40.

>> No.18983724

>>18983425
http://www.shadowstats.com/

The way government has measured inflation has changed over the years to make it look like things aren't as bad as they are.

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>>18983425
the all high in gold (relative to amount of Fiat Money Supply - FMS )was $800 per oz 1980
If you take today’s FMS vs that all time high in 1980 = $18k
It shows how much we really are under the peak all time high price in 1980 adjusted for fiat money inflation
Here’s another chart of usdebtclock.org -pic related
That comes up with similar conclusion of what the paper price oz should be in US$
just another way to look at it objectively

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>>18983425

>> No.18984106

>>18983688
I’m afraid it has since 1970
Gold 1970 = $35
Gold 2020 = $1700
98% loss of purchasing power via gold
When the current Fiat Money Supply being printed by Fed is priced in it will be far worse
The dollar will have lost 99.8% of its purchasing power via gold
These are just basic facts taken from Govt stats it readily admits anon.

>> No.18984173

>>18984094
fascinating chart and nice insight anon thanks I’m screen capturing it

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Has anybody ever thought about ordering a mold so that you can pour your own bars? Silver shavings can be had pretty close to spot

>> No.18984338

>>18984246
those molds work great for about 10 pours, but they eventually crap out due to moisture that soaks in from the air. I do love casting metal, but I dont usually have a real reason to do so.

>> No.18984393

>>18984246
yes of course, i would love to be able to buy a custom mold of my family crest for a 1oz coin, problem is, to get anything that cool its going to cost a fortune...

>> No.18984523

>>18984393
This person on Etsy makes 2 sided coins molds for $275. He’s got some good reviews

>> No.18984558

>>18984393
Sorry for the massive link
https://www.etsy.com/listing/771049647/we-make-your-2-sided-coin-graphite-molds?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-craft_supplies_and_tools-other&utm_custom1=11d76957-e47e-4584-a2fe-9bb5c2b87149&utm_content=go_270947675_21143440475_69017032355_pla-106551294035_m__771049647&utm_custom2=270947675&gclid=CjwKCAjwqdn1BRBREiwAEbZcR_jrB8lVYtqCBQFQ6-DpJXd2ifEpanRj-ogpsPWmb3tG9tjY7IuWxhoCK4wQAvD_BwE

>> No.18984626

>>18984106
Oh ok then by your own logic it has only lost 45% purchasing power since gold was $800 in 1980. Thus proving that’s an asinine measurement

>> No.18984643

>>18984523
yeah it looks like what pan man said, they won't last, which is sad. since I don't think it'd be worth it to tack on 30/oz to make them

>> No.18984644

>>18981025
>>18981069
Feels like a larp, but one I hope I would be true.

Why at 100k/ounce thought? Divisibility?

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>>18979964
Just picked up my 2020 silver maple leaf from the mailbox.

>> No.18984679

>>18984338
Are there molds that don't shit out so bad?

>> No.18984692

>>18984663
>only one
I knew Canada was having hard times but damn, maybe that polish anon from pol was right about Canada collapsing

>> No.18984708

>>18984643
the issue is there never made properly anymore. Back in the day graphite casing molds were pressed and baked at the same time, basically sealing the graphite powder. These days companies cheap out and the graphite only lasts so long before it fails. Same thing with casing crucibles, there not what they used to be thats for sure.

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>>18974793
Im with you senpai, we will make it!

>> No.18984748

>>18984679
there are but there getting hard to find. you can use a steel mold with graphite dust, but again it only lasts so many times. Cast Iron molds are nearly impossible to find unless you bulk order them from india or china. I can contact 911 metallurgists again and see if any of their contacts know where to look, because i ve not had any luck recently.

>> No.18984754

>>18984246
There are mold makers all over the world who will produce any design you want. The dudes melting scrap copper and aluminum have them done all the time.
Just be aware that you're destroying any value to the metal doing it - without an expensive assay, any bar or ingot you produce has no value on the market. Even hobbyists like jewelry makers won't want to deal with the questionable purity.

>> No.18984766

What's the best precious metal to buy and hold for the next 5 years?

>> No.18984773

>>18984766
Silver

>> No.18984789

>>18984692
I’m american... ;_;

>> No.18984788

>>18984393
Graphite molds are a couple hundred bucks, especially if you send them a clay or 3D print of the design. The sculpting time will be the most expensive part of the process.

>> No.18984808

>>18984773
If that's the best one, close this general

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>>18981594
Sour Patch anon is always based, I store mine in a wooden box my dad made me 10 years ago but I’m jelly of your SPK tin, it’s my favorite candy.

This week I got 2 of the Nuie owls from Jm Bullion and they arrived super quick. I’ve never bought a coin for the look, but I couldn’t pass up on the aesthetic owl. Up to 74oz now.

>> No.18984828

>>18984808
:(

>> No.18984848

>>18984692
were far worse off than anyone knows yet. Our money is junk, our resource sectors are pummeled, our work force is growing but no new jobs exist, and what jobs did exist are vanishing quickly. For example, in our mining industry, a group of major companies is buying automation tech from australia and plan to use it here for major operations, specifically for heavy equipment use. No more heavy truck drivers, no more shovel operators, halving the management staff, halving the on site crews. Glencore thinks they can reduce staff by 40% over the next 5 years with automation technology. Same goes for the logging sector, major contractors are looking at automating as much of the logging and hauling process as possible to reduce costs.

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>>18984808
lol no way bro, the rest of biz is freaking out btc is 8,757
i'm staying in my happy place known as /pmg lol

>> No.18984854

>>18984737
wtf i love Burger King now

>> No.18984882

>>18982828
>>18982899
that's just one example that fails most tests

there's millions of them out there and you can't tell because they're made of silver and being sold at 1 oz spot.

some of them are easy to spot, mostly the proofs, but the BU stuff is almost impossible to tell without x-ray spectroscopy.

>> No.18984905

>>18984754
not true, most major scrap companies have xrf guns, same with jewellery agents. If a buyer believes your metal still isnt up to grade they can have samples fire assayed fairly cheaply.

>> No.18984914

>>18984826
I see you anon

>> No.18984956

>>18984905
this

I recycle. I have an XRF gun I got used for $5k

>> No.18984965

>>18984956
there starting to show up at around $1500-2000 as well

>> No.18984984

>>18984848
I feel sorry for our Canadian bros but your govt is so worthless... its hard to feel bad for Canada...

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>>18984850
pmg is comfy because nobody is a dick to each other. We just share our shinys, talk about where to get good deals, and sometimes LARP as pirates. Honestly it’s the least douchey bunch on biz. None of us are trying to “get rich quick” hoping for moon shots. We’re all just dragons slowly accumulating our wealth and sleeping comfy under the mountain on our hoards.

>> No.18985042

>>18984965
I'm wary of the cheaper brands but I'll probably pick some up.

I got mine for catalytic converters but I use it on electronic and jewelry scrap sometimes.

>> No.18985062

>>18985025
lol, I like that analogy anon.
just a dragon chillin inside protecting my precious
might have to see if theres a dragon rip off of pepe we could steal

>> No.18985110

>>18984905
Scrap companies are not who you go to, for silver assays. Silver is a precious metal, the only assay that will count will be from an assay office. You would need a legit x-ray or fire test to get a hallmark, to sell poured silver on the market at silver prices. The scans scrap yards do is good enough for sorting metals, it will not get you a hallmark. Purity is the only thing that matters for silver as a precious metal, and the scans by a scrap yard won't tell you that, they will just tell you "Yeah, silver."

Stop trying to guess how stuff works, and learn how it actually does.

If someone here wants to pour scrap silver as an ingot to put on a shelf, it's fine. None of that is needed, but if you want to sell a hand-poured ingot on the open market with a hallmark at silver prices, you'll pay a couple hundred to an assay office, like everyone else does, every fucking day.

>> No.18985131

>>18984644
Well if all money has to be backed by metals, and it is replacing the entire fiat monetary system, it stands to reason that many many trillions of dollars will have to be backed with the gold that we have. Or a lot of it at least, I'm certainly not a monetary expert.

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>>18985062
> option 1

Smug Smaug

>> No.18985164

>>18985110
getting an assay is easy but destructive.

I'm a scrap dealer, I'll pay spot for your silver. But I'm going to drill it and send it in for an assay. I usually use wet assays but fire is cheaper. Wet is just more accurate.

but I don't trust random strangers with an assay certificate in hand. If I want an assay I have to do it via my lab so we don't have chain of custody issues. You can't hand me an assay, only my lab can do that.

>> No.18985178

>>18984956
Even if you did own one, what makes your claims hold any value on the market?

Oh, that's right, you're not an assay office. My bad. Your claims don't mean shit.

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>>18985161
> option 2

Dragon chan

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>>18985131
Makes sense to me I guess. Nice sexy round number too.

Do you guys ever take your batties out of the case? So nice and cool to touch.

>> No.18985204

>>18985178
I'm not claiming anything.

If you bring me silver I'm going to order an assay on it. Even if you have an assay in hand.

because I don't know that your assay goes with the metal you're showing me.

>> No.18985221

>>18985164
>You can't hand me an assay, only my lab can do that.
Exactly my point - but it won't stop the tards posting here that they do what assay offices do, and that it counts. All I was saying is that if you want to retain the precious metal value of silver, pouring ingots at home is a poor way of doing that.

>> No.18985230

>>18985178
And I do own a lab that can run assays.

but that's not safe or legal. I want an outside house to run our assays so everyone (the IRS and my auditors mostly) know we're not laundering money

>> No.18985234

>>18985191
I’m afraid to touch my stuff. I leave them all in the plastic sleeves or tubes I get them in. Those bats look awesome AF though, I may have a hard time resisting the urge to play with them.

>> No.18985246

>>18985221
yep.

but even getting an assay done won't fix that. Even with name-brand metal I'm going to run another independent assay just to be sure.

>> No.18985265

>>18980727
No you’re not

>> No.18985286

>>18983368
>the American Revolution caused gold to shed 2/3rds of its value

>> No.18985291

>>18985265
fair enough, that's just what google shopping showed me. 200% of spot and up. I didn't search for the cheapest

>> No.18985317

>>18985110
Wouldn't it be easier to just HODL until the assay becomes cheaper relative to the amount of self-made silver ingots you are holding and then sell it?

>> No.18985343

>>18985317
assay prices track metals prices fairly well because metals prices are tied to the cost of energy needed to produce them, and that same energy is needed for the assay and its equipment/supplies/labor/etc

an assay now costs about the same amount of silver as an assay in 1849 did or whatever. The costs are the same fraction of metals production costs.

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Gold spot went up $3 compared to last weekend. But I noticed this weekend more retailers have more gold coins in stock and prices and premiums are lower.

>>18985131
We'll never return to a gold standard.

Central Banks will cease to have a purpose once you can't print money, and they and their friends will start wars and commit genocide to prevent that from happening.

>> No.18985375

>>18985343
but metal prices are volatile, and the equipment used for an assay today and in 1849 are different

>> No.18985385

>>18985317
and again, just because you say your metal assays X purity doesn't mean I can believe you without independent verification

the big boys don't just assay their bullion, they hire outside companies to do it for them and certify the results for a particular mill run. On homemade ingots that would be extraordinarily expensive below the millions of dollars in sales mark, and nobody would trust it anyways.

big houses have the opposite problem. Everyone trusts the refinery but if you're selling it there's no reason to trust you.

>> No.18985393

>>18985183
Definitely smug Smaug
>>18985191
Spectacular

>> No.18985417

>>18985375
yes, but over time the prices homogenize. And the lab isn't charging you what it costs right now, they (we) look at multi-year markets when setting prices. Hell, I bought equipment and supplies a decade ago and will charge you prices I expect to pay 10 years in the future.

>> No.18985437

>>18985364
I dunno, the US is about to hit the breaking point on debt, I could see trump releasing a new currency in a couple years. I mean it wouldn't be backed by gold, but I do think he would back it with something, maybe f-35s.
your 100 dollar bill is redeemable for 1/40,000,000th of a f-35
LOL

>> No.18985452

>>18985110
I ve taken silver beads from my fire assays to scrap dealers before to have an approx estimate done, but yes you are right if you want a better number and one with more weight behind it in trust than a full assay is needed.

However, even some of the assay offices I ve gone to use the XRF guns for testing, but I am sure theirs are far more expensive models than the ones I ve used.

>> No.18985455

>>18985317
In what incel clownworld fantasy would anyone be pouring enough ingots at home for that to even matter?

>> No.18985459

>>18985437
trump will very possibly be in prison in a couple years.

don't make financial decisions based on your political beliefs.

>> No.18985467

>>18985183
yeah I think this dragon has more potential, now we got to stick some gold/silver in his hand lol

>> No.18985470

>>18981671
I have 7.75oz of gold. not in pic. how much would you say I should have comparing my silver?

>> No.18985479

>>18985221
your very right, its why none of the guys I sell gold to will buy ingots cast at home. They want gold flakes and nuggets because they know they havent been tampered with.

>> No.18985498

>>18985479
>they know they havent been tampered with.
we both know there's some very convincing counterfeit nuggets on the market too

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>>18985459

>> No.18985515

>>18984984
so few people give a dam thats the problem. Only like 21% of the population voted last time.

>> No.18985544

>>18985364
Very nice stack anon. I agree that the US will wage wars to keep the dollar as the reserve currency and not gold. They’ve already done so. But wars (and welfare) are bankrupting this country and the dollar will collapse it that happens. We’re already seeing the beginnings of such policy. Hence why the fed will bring interest rates negative

>> No.18985561

>>18985513
not bait.

trump was a terrible bet in 16 and he's in much worse shape now. He might get elected but I sincerely doubt it. He needs the virus to follow his orders, and viruses can't be bought off or threatened.

>> No.18985567

>>18985498
that is true, but its very very hard to get them to look... good? Most of the fake nugs I ve seen have tell tail signs their not legit. Its really hard to describe, but when you have worked with gold fresh out of the dirt for a while you recognize things.

>> No.18985611

>>18985470
Anywhere from 40-60% (in dollars) should be gold. Once the ratio declines the proportion of gold should go up. So if it fails to 70/1 silver to gold you should sell some silver for gold. But if you’re in the range above you’re good. More gold is more conservative.

>> No.18985613

>>18985567
I know, I can spot them too.

I mostly cruise ebay and a couple of them the only way I could know is because there's several that look exactly the same. Molded or pressure cast, but exactly the same nugget being sold over and over.

it doesn't even take that much to convince the public though. I see 'ore' on ebay every day that's just quartz colored with a gold leaf pen. People buy it.

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Hot damn, I'm really not a fan of the Britannia 10 oz silver bar design. It's not terrible, it's just meh. But it looks great as a gold bar wew, I want one.

>> No.18985679

>>18985613
yes!! I ve seen that same nugget scam before several times. Have you seen the gold "ore" sample dude who reappears every few months with gold in quartz? It looks like its been poured into the rock with a really crap crucible or some other process. dude gets flagged to death than pops back up again with new accounts using the same pictures.

>> No.18985701

>>18985679
yeah, I tracked his sales for a month late last year using the "sold items" search

he makes thousands of dollars a month off that shit.

>> No.18985718

>>18985291
>No you
They are still like 120 for a 5 oz at jewmex

>> No.18985794

>>18985701
there are also those sellers on alibaba that sell either copper or silver alloy nuggets plated with gold for fairly cheap prices. Thats where a lot of the obvious fake youtube channels get their material.

>> No.18985832

>>18985718
what's that. almost twice spot? lol that's not bullion, that's my market. Collectibles.
>>18985794
the 'gold in quartz' faggot pisses me off because I have a few thousand good wire and crystal micromounts I'd love to sell for $10 each but his shit gets all the buyers. He's elbowed me out of the market but I guess he'll get shut down with fraud charges eventually.

>> No.18985907

>>18980341
I had to use my Coronabux to buy 5 of them. At worst I bought 25oz at a couple bucks over what the premium for US Government bullion should be with free money.

>> No.18985909

>>18985832
I wanted to do the same for a while with a collection of gold crystals in quartz (most in 1mm or a bit bigger) but again same thing, these fakers poisoned the market.

>> No.18986023

>>18985650
Best silver ten ounce is the Canadian mint if you can find one. Those gold brittanias are really something though

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>>18985909
we're too late or too early.

I have a couple micromounts listed on ebay but they don't get any views. I haven't sold a single one.

>> No.18986110

>>18986055
I sold most of mine off at a gem show in Vancouver, but yes I had the same issue on ebay.

>> No.18986119

>>18982500
thats a squadron coin. It's probably worth $0.04 melted. Nice find.

>> No.18986175

>>18986119
say what? you melt down my challenge coin and we gonna be fighting anon. they gave me that for completing basic training

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>>18985909
this is one of my better wire bits. Nothing special but it's good for my area. Not sure if this pic is the right one.

this rock is rotten with gold and silver though. Probably 1/10 oz in a rock the size of a golf ball.

>> No.18986201

>>18986175
>they gave me that for completing basic training
kek

I got an M-16 A2 and a kick in the face

>> No.18986218

>>18986201
i'll trade you my coin for that m16... lol

>> No.18986224

>>18986218
right?

I didn't get to keep her sadly

>> No.18986228

>>18981594
Flea market has silver quarters and roosevelt dimes $150 for 10fv. I can't do it. Not with those premiums

>> No.18986251

>>18982261
>not posting a low quality jpeg of yourself fishing for snapper to be bid on

>> No.18986264

>>18986175
i lost all three of mine. Oh well :P if I really want it back I'll just buy one off of ebay.

>> No.18986303

>>18986181
i can tell those would be absolutely amazing to see under hand lens

>> No.18986316

>>18986228
Unfortunately 13-15x fv is the going rate these days. Which is crazy cause there’s not a big distinction in price bw roosevelts and the mercs. There should be. Roosevelts won’t get you bjs from formerly well to do housewives.

>> No.18986337

>>18986303
yeah my camera back then sucked. I have a couple tiny bird's nests of ribbon gold. Just little knots of 24k set in galena and silver.

I'll never sell those though. Not because they're amazing but because they're the best I've ever found, you know? My personal best.

>> No.18986342

>>18986264
oh that's rough, yeah I've heard you can get some of the more famous units off the web, might be worth checking from time to time to see if thery're reasonable.
about the only use I have for mine is to harass a old friend on fb since he went to the same bct unit

>> No.18986362

>>18986342
there's one on ebay right now for $14.

I checked because I buy and sell that shit. Just curious. Not to degrade your challenge coin. It's a cool one.

>> No.18986417

>>18986316
I know it's the going rate but I just cant. I had a dude at the flea market I was buying '64 kennedys for $6/pop right before quarantine. I went back the other day but couldn't find him was gonna see if he'd still honor that. The other guy selling 15xfv is a coin guy but feels shady. Was trying to sell me war nickels without telling me about the %40 content, since he knows I'm younger and new. I do enjoy going and looking around though

>> No.18986420

>>18986362
14 that's actually pretty cool, I went there in 2003, so I assume tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people got that coin over the course of a decade.
hell i'm going have to take better care of it now lol

>> No.18986458

>>18986420
yours looks old. that doesn't look new at all.

just my 2cents.

I served in the 3/5 Darkhorse marines, our coins are all colored enamel on brass. Still pretty cheap, but not old like yours.

>> No.18986497

>>18986023
>Best silver ten ounce is the Canadian mint if you can find one.

I got a few when they were cheap a few years back. The reamed edges are nice.

>> No.18986519

>>18986417
Yeah that sounds awesome. I’ve never been to a flea market. How do you find out about them and do all/most of them have coin dealers?

>> No.18986548

>>18986420
>>18986362
Dunno if you guys know or not but JM gives veteran discounts. Just contact them and show your VA card or dd214. They'll give you the As Low As price for any amount you buy no matter, it's a stellar deal

>> No.18986570

>>18986458
I didn't take very good care of it for several years, it was in the pocket of a duffle bag...
but for the last 5ish years I put it in with some rocks my brother gave me

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>>18986570

>> No.18986592

>>18986519
We have a pretty well known one near me . 1 guy is a straight coin dealer, mostly graded shit. This other guy I bought from was just an individual with a small table. I wish I woulda bought more from him. I think he had walking liberty's too, I just imagine he's brought his prices up to match premiums. You'd walk right buy him if you weren't looking for silver

>> No.18986595

>>18986570
It's a cool coin. I don't know if they still hand out flag pins at enlistment but I still wear mine that I carried on my war bag for years.
>>18986548
nice, thanks!

>> No.18986610

>>18986587
cant tell if the top is blue calcite or Celestine

nice shark tooth, what is that? serrated on one carina, it's the chronospecies that came before Carcharocles angustidens…?

>> No.18986618

I got my batboi in the mail. I held it in my pocket during my whole 14 hour shift today and while I was walking home I was holding it in my pocket thinking "this is how much money I made today" and then I showed my cat when I got home

about to order some gold before it doubles in price

>> No.18986629

>>18986610
Carcharocles auriculatus or Otodon sp. have the single serrated edge

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>>18986595
3/5 3rd regiment 5 battalion?
>>18986610
that in the baggy is some aqua marine from Afghanistan/Pakistan regions
I dunno, it was some giant shark thing... sorry

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>>18986458
Here's mine

>> No.18986685

>>18986637
>3/5 3rd regiment 5 battalion?
yes. Way back in the day though. 1st Gulf War.
>that in the baggy is some aqua marine from Afghanistan/Pakistan regions
ok, yeah that's aquamarine
>I dunno, it was some giant shark thing... sorry
Otodon or Carcharocles, either way it's a megalodon ancestor. Very nice tooth, those aren't super common. Where's it from? Also Afghanistan/Pakistan?

>> No.18986708

>>18986637
>3rd regiment 5 battalion?
or reverse that lol

>> No.18986712

would you rather have 1 oz of gold and 65 oz of silver, or 165oz of silver?

>> No.18986719

>>18986712
1/65. I like having both myself tbqh

>> No.18986723

>>18986672
thank you for your cervix

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How is divided your portfolio metalbros?
For me it's :
>10% in cash
>5% in gold
>20% in mtg cards (reserved list)
>65% silver
>0% stonks
>0% shitcoins
>0% bonds
Feels pretty comfy frens

>> No.18986751

1 merc dime for a blowjob sounds expensive by the way.

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>>18986723

>> No.18986756

>>18986712
gimme the 165oz of SLV

>> No.18986765

>>18986745
You watch alpha investments on youtube?

>> No.18986788

>>18985191
Nice

>> No.18986797

>>18986672
that's pretty

>> No.18986876

Thoughts?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/silver-coin-premiums-soar-signal-alt-money-demand-economic-recovery-hype-fades

>> No.18986877

>>18986765
No, rudyberg have no clues about what he's doing, he doesn't even know the fundamentals of the game, that's why he only target sealed products. His only good spec ever is having a horde of patreon cucks worshipping him and buying his bags.

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>>18986685
sweet, the 3rd marines were friends of my division the 88th, apparently from way back in Vietnam.

my brother was a hippy out in Oregon who ran a semi precious rock gem and mineral store. he would go down to Tucson az every year and pick up stuff from there. so not a clue on the shark tooth, I want to say he did have a little sign saying it was a megalodon and had a time period but again you got me...
and my brother has passed on, so I can't ask him lol

>> No.18986920

>>18986877
Ah ok. I don't know shit about MTG, some anon posted a video he did on cc float last month and I watched a few if his videos. Seem cozy. Had no clue MTG could be worth so much. I'd worry one day they'd end up like the baseball card market

>> No.18986929

>>18986745
25% cash
8% gold
2% silver
23% crypto
25% stocks
4% bonds
9% paper gold
4% paper silver

>> No.18986930

San Diego bro here, shout out to PM again for stoking the fires in this old hobby. Heading over to Julian tomorrow with some pans, a sluice, crevice suckers, a shitty cheapo metal detector, and all the other standard gear.

Brushed up on reading rivers: inside curves, underneath the center of gravel bars, at the base of eroding hillside with gravel layers (where the river used to flow), iron rich red dirt, bedrock, crevices, behind rocks, lots of black sand, etc.

>> No.18986939

>>18986885
ah yeah. I was 5th regiment, 3rd batt.
I was a peacetime marine though, the war ended before I finished basic training. You kids saw way more action that I did.

I have a buddy that runs a rock shop in Coos Bay Oregon, but he's not dead.

Much better pic. Yep, that's Carcharocles, either angustidens or megalodon. I like it. I deal in some fossils and shark teeth are a favorite of mine.

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>>18982308
An anon can only dream. Best wishes my friend
>>18985025
Absolutely based

>> No.18986973

>>18986929
>9% paper gold
>4% paper silver

Sell that or risk loosing it if you don't hold you don't own

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>>18986939
yeah in the army I sat on my ass stateside, but not everyone can be so lucky
I know he was quite happy to get them for the price he paid. I think he got like 30ish of them from some vendor at that rock convention in az

>> No.18987062

>>18986342
Thats hilarious. I ran into someone in basic and then met them again when I went back into the civie world and became friends with them. Crazy small world.

>> No.18987063

>>18986973
I know man. Im trying to wait for premiums to return to normalcy. Do you think they will? I wanted an investment into PMs without getting fucked by premiums. Fortunately that’s all in Taxable accounts so I can easily convert to physical but is it worth it?

>> No.18987069

>>18986745
70% gold
20% silver
5% cash
5% stonks

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>>18986991
the rock show in Tucson is where the holotype for Falcarius utahensis was first sold. Some crazy shit shows up at that show. millions of dollars change hands.

I have a whole C. angustidens tooth in my collection but only half a megalodon. I'd love to have a whole one but I never remember to shop for them.

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50% precious gemstones and minerals
30% silver
10% gold
10% cash

Pan Man Gang

>> No.18987178

>>18986930
Good luck fren
>>18987063
Gold premiums and stock are coming back in line. Silver is still kinda fucked atm

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>>18987123
yeah that angustidens definitely looks like mine.

but back to metals lol
95% silver
5% crypto
I pay off my credit cards every pay check and buy silver, but i'll probably try to end up with a 10 to 1 ratio for silver to crypto

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>>18987217
y no gold tho?

>> No.18987285

>>18987173
is that native gold?? somethings going on with rendering the photo on my end its all purple.

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Have you guys heard about this proposal?
https://mintthecoin.org/

Essentially they want to mint a I'm guessing 1oz plat. coin with 1 trillion dollars on it, to have the treasury issue to the fed, to cover more spending. Supposed to be debt free. But wouldn't this be BRRRRR if there isn't actually $1trillion worth of platinum in the coin? How would it not create debt?

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>>18987217
>but back to metals lol
fair enough

how much mercury vs mercury/gold amalgam you stacking, /biz/? Am I going to make it?

>> No.18987346

>>18987304
zero, thought about getting some mercury dimes though lol
>>18987298
yes anon exactly, its just more fiat inflation...

>> No.18987377

>>18987304
amalgam actually sounds like a great way to keep people stealing your gold. How many thieves are going to guess the gray paste in a coffee can is actually gold.

>> No.18987396

>>18987346
I know leftists are dumb. But there's no way actual politicians understand so little about monetary policy, that they think stamping $1 trillion on a coin that's intrinsically worth $800, would cover the cost of $1trillion more of money printing?

>> No.18987433

>>18987239
kys pedokike

>> No.18987472
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>>18987377
yeah, it's secure for sure. And even if they do steal it they're going to poison themselves, right?

>>18987346
>thought about getting some mercury dimes though lol
like this?

>> No.18987502

>>18987285
crystalline that we were jack hammering out of a ironstone hill on one of our leases i think it was higher than 97 cant remember the assey i dont have much of this left one piece was 14 ounces (not in that photo) most was sold 40% above spot before i started my mineral collection so it hurts to remember

shame its purple on your screen its nice

>>18987304
2l in a glass mason jar from a old mate at the mills

need to burn off a smaller jar with around 15-20 ounces in it from some dryblowings

>> No.18987522

The US Dollar is the strongest currency in the world. It is in fact foundational to the entire post WWII global economic order. If the dollar collapses, everything collapses (economically speaking).

Betting against the dollar is betting against the everything that has been status quo since the post-war period. All empires fall. Some last for centuries. There is no good reason to imagine that the time is now-- it could all fall down next year, or it could last another hundred years.

Do not be fully invested in collapse. Be sober.

>> No.18987532

>>18987433
we even had a troll in here earlier. apparently no where is safe on 4chan(nel)
one last off topic subject, anyone know the price of tourmaline? my brother gave me this tiny blue piece of... said it was worth 10/g and only going up in value, curious to know if he was right lol

>>18987472
nice, lol can you get sued if someone breaks into your house and dies from stealing your gold

>> No.18987535

>>18985611
I am slowly coming to the same conclusion. I bought the gold after a good crypto trade just because I wanted to have some, but the past few weeks have shown me, that when SHTF the big boys after the initial margin call dump go into gold hiding and silver gets the leftovers. Not only that, I also found out that in Weimar germany and a few years later the GSR went to 160. The logic behind it was transportation across borders. So I will now take in more gold in fiat terms... also I´m getting older, so more conservative

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>>18987532
helps if I add it

>> No.18987561

>>18987502
>shame its purple on your screen its nice
it is pretty.

looks like it's been washed with nitric. Like gold foil. Very nice rough gold.

>need to burn off a smaller jar with around 15-20 ounces in it from some dryblowings
that'll pay for a nice small retort right there

>> No.18987588

>>18987522
BRRRRRRRRRRR....Yah I hope it doesnt collapse...at least soon. But the debt is unpayable. We didnt do it, we had no say so in it. So I'm gonna keep stacking anon

>> No.18987605

>>18987550
Yeah, gem indicolite is worth thousands of dollars per carat. I can't tell the quality from the pic, but it's probably worth a small fortune.
>>18987532
>can you get sued if someone breaks into your house and dies from stealing your gold
yes, I live in a state where that can happen. But that's why I have insurance.

>> No.18987620

>>18987532
do you know where it was mined
depends on the type of blue

cut Brazilians colbolt can go for 150-3000 usd per ct

generic blues 50-500 per ct cut

then there are one off finds and depleted deposits

hope he knew what he was doing its easy to get fucked

>> No.18987641

>>18987502
figured it out just odd bug, amazing looking ore!!! I wish I could find stuff that rich, I ve never seen more than wires or small blobs in my ore.

>> No.18987660

>>18987588
Compared to many first-world nations with high-functioning economies (such as the UK), the US has a moderate to low ratio of debt to GDP.

The present macroeconomic experiment of a global economy that avoids contractions through various central banking tricks (QE, low interest rates, central banks buying stocks) and deficits probably cannot continue indefinitely. But nobody knows how far it can continue before serious problems emerge.

It's quite possible that it could outlast us or even our grandchildren.

>> No.18987673

>>18987605
>>18987620
not a clue on location, but he was always very cheap. the quality is quite low, and has a decent size notch out of it, but from the sounds of it might be worth 200 bucks, damn that's impressive
thanks guys

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>>18982765
>seller using pic of real ASE's is proof that counterfeits are now pretty good
Nope they're still shit and very, very easy to tell in person.

>> No.18987693

>>18987673
meant to say 100

>> No.18987728

>>18987673
yeah, it's definitely tourmaline and the color is nice. If the clarity sucks then it's not worth a shitload. But you need a gemologist to look at the thing. Don't judge the quality by the outside only.

full many a gem of purest ray serene the dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear

that one might be valuable.

>> No.18987753

>>18987691
>they're still shit and very, very easy to tell in person.
I'll start collecting pics when I come across them. The proofs are super easy to spot but the BU's are virtually impossible.

I'd guess almost half the ASE's on ebay are fakes.

>> No.18987760

>>18987753
we'll see

>> No.18987769

>>18987760
for $8 you can buy some and find out.

the better fakes are going for $25 though

>> No.18987786

>>18987673
tourmaline will moon
you didn't hear it from me

>> No.18987830

>>18987786
I am waiting for emeralds to moon, I know a spot in the Revelstoke region that has very high quality stones, but there just such a bitch to get to I havent bothered going back.

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>>18987769
>the better fakes are going for $25 though
you playing with me?

>> No.18987863
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18987863

!URGENT! !SPOOPY! !URGENT! !SPOOPY!
>!URGENT! !SPOOPY! !URGENT! !SPOOPY!

Do you frens heared about MintID? Starting in 2021 ASE and buffalo silver will be microchipped to prove (((authenticity))), using a 128bit encrypted smart tag. Each coin will have it's own ID number. A -supposedly safe- central server will stock all the IDs of silver and gold coins produced by the US Mint.
Basically (((they))) will be able to track at any time how big is your stack and where you store it.
That's why they plan to change the design next year!!! To add this pure talmudic kikery. No boat accident excuses anymore, no more tax evading when you buy or sell, they'll be able to make you pay new taxes whenever it please (((them))) or even confiscate your shit for whatever reason like they did in 1933 to replenish fort Knox.

STOCK UP ASAP BEFORE THEY ADD THE MARK OF THE BEAST TO YOUR PRECIOUS COMFY LIL STACK.

>https://mintid.com

>> No.18987866

>>18987786
I hope so.

I bought my wife a nice fat tricolor niggerhead tourmaline from elba 20 years ago and she promptly lost it in the house somewhere. I'll start pulling couch cushions out if it moons.

>> No.18987876

>>18987846
nope.

the Chinese got tired of making $9 per ounce on Alibaba and started selling them as real coins on ebay and facebook.

>> No.18987891

>>18987876
oh like that? Makes sense lmao

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18987893

Ok boys, how’m I doin’?

>> No.18987895

>>18987863
The didnt essentially confiscate in '33 they nationalized it. The gold was needed for excessive money printing of the FDR presidency, since we were on the gold standard. Now they just print money they don't need the metals.

>> No.18987954

>>18987863
i'm calling bs anon, I wouldn't be surprised if they add a serial number to it though,
I think a couple countries have already started putting serial numbers on their silver bullion

>> No.18987960

>>18987891
it does.

they're usually marked as "commemorative" coins.

they're also flooding the market with morgans and peace dollars. Lots of fakes for sale right now, of varying quality. The good ones are actually silver, but I still wouldn't pay $25 for a private mint round that looks exactly like an ASE.

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>>18987786
>tourmaline
>wtf is that, lets wiki it
>Tourmaline is XG3Z6(BO3)3T6O18(OH,O)3(OH,F,O)X(Ca,Na,K,[]),G(Mg,Li,Al,Mn,Fe2+,3+,V,Cr,Ti,Cu,[]),Z(Al,Mg,Cr,V,Fe3+,Ti),T(Si,Al,B,Be)
oh ok.. i get it now

>> No.18987983

>>18987830
was talking to a rich Chinese man in Vietnam late October in the spinel mining regions and he said the jade has 5-10 years tops and they are already trying to build supply of other stones like emerald and crystaphase

go get some leases pan man

>> No.18987995

>>18987983
did you guys see that pic someone posted a few threads back with a handful of gem emeralds?

looked like good Columbian blue/green stuff. Couldn't find it on reverse image search.

>> No.18987996

>>18987895
They could find ANY excuse to confiscate it, like you missing a mortgage payment, getting fined for some bullshit, for coconspiracy in drug dealing because you smoked a joint or other loophole.

>> No.18988021

>>18987996
they don't actually believe you still have it.

I bought a handful of gold on credit card and then missed a couple payments. The card company called and asked if I still had it. I told them I sold it at the pawn shop. Which was true, but they never checked my story.

>> No.18988022

>>18987967
its a pretty looking rock is what it is.

>> No.18988026

>>18987893
open the package and bath in your batbois you coward

>> No.18988057
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18988057

STOP COOMING OVER YOUR COINS YOU BATNIGGERS
WE ARE FACING A DEATH THREAT
ITS A WAR ON US
>>18987863

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>>18987967
heres a quick run down

The tourmaline mineral group is chemically one of the most complicated groups of silicate minerals

Tourmaline is electronically charged when pressure is applied to it (used in dept gages of submarines and wings of aircrafts)

there is only one blue boi Paraiba tourmaline mined for every 10,000 diamonds

stay out of my territory

>> No.18988077

>>18987996
Instrument of the bearer. They must be able to prove its in your possession and wasn't lost in a tragic boating accident.

>> No.18988080

>>18988059
>research "Ruby Ridge"
kek

>> No.18988095

>>18987863
so you are saying they will make it illegal to melt down silver then? And what about private mints?

>> No.18988105

>>18987983
I know where there is a lot of Jade west of Dease Lake, boulder jade like those guys Josh Bruce and his family on discovery channel mine. Issue though like always is getting in there with machinery. Chad Day of the Tahltan won't let white miners back on his turf any longer, his sick of us digging holes everywhere.

I again know of at least 40 different gem locations around the province, I worked with a guy called Herb Hyder who has located some amazing areas over the years. He needs more attention, dudes been livin off beans and old spuds all winter in the Queen Charlotte islands.

>> No.18988106

>>18987983
i didn't forget my name because im shitposting in other threads

>>18987995
think i missed it

>> No.18988115

>>18988026
anon leave him be, although I would play with them, are there enough to encircle a prostitute lol

>>18988022
this, it comes in lots of colors, very pretty. hippies love to make jewelry out of the semi precious stuff as well, but their rock habits are like a religion(fucking weirdos)

>>18988080
right that anon deserves a cookie

>> No.18988118

>>18987995
yes, cant remember how far back that was but they were pretty nice stones.

>> No.18988143

>>18988057
>fighting rifle and pistol
Check
>ammo,mags
Check
>food supply
Check. Although limited. Could use more
>continue stacking
Absolutely checked

>> No.18988144

>>18988095
>they will make it illegal to melt down silver then?
It's alrdy illegal to destroy legal tender (which buffalo, ASE, maple, phillis,, all are). That said, it's quite impossible to enforce.

>> No.18988159

>>18988118
>cant remember how far back that was
me either, I just remember it looked like more than my truck is worth. A very nice handful

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>>18988159
found this photo in my archive from a long time ago. Friends got to see the "Hand of Faith" nugget on display in Las Vegas. 875 ounces or 72 troy pounds of Au. Biggest nugget recovered by metal detector and only found a foot from the surface.

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>BTC and other shitcoins flash crashed by -13% in 10mn
>every thread turn pink
>pmg is comfy, even ignoring what's happening in the crypto ponzi world
Never it have been comfier to hold precious metals, frens.

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>>18988198
poor bastards not holding physical currency lol

>> No.18988268

>>18988250
yea feel bad for all those poor saps that bought into crypto and never get anywhere with it.

>> No.18988286

>>18988159
most of my collection is in boxes in case Australia goes mad max but ill pull some shit out for a photo when all this blows over

>>18988198
what the fuck

>> No.18988299

Can an anon help me out? Im trying to get into PM but i dont really know what I should be buying. How much gold to how much silver? Just one or the other? Should i be trying to get as much oz/dollar as i can, or should i be buying frivolities like coins and pretty pictures on my bars? What price above spot is considered good/rip off?

>> No.18988313
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18988313

>>18988192
oh man, can you imagine?!

best I've ever seen is the Summitville boulder at the Denver museum. I remember when that was found and thinking I'd never tell anyone. Just back my truck up and load some rock.

>> No.18988329

>>18988299
anon you need to give us more info, are we talking long term?
do you just want to cash out when inflation hits, whats your goals?

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>>18988286
>ill pull some shit out for a photo when all this blows over
I'd love to see it.

Here's some Colorado aquamarine, not valuable but interesting

>> No.18988382

>>18988313
yea... if i found that i might have a heart attack.

>> No.18988394

>>18988313
also o man that rock must have like 40 ounces per tonne....

>> No.18988408

>>18988198
Ayyyyyyy
>>18988299
Both gold and silver. Premiums are ridiculous on silver right now. Because of that I'm sticking to generic bars as close to spot as I can. It's fine to buy numismatics or art bars/rounds from time to time, but they command high premiums that aren't the best to maximize your actual stack. I'd stay away from american silver eagles at the moment since the premiums on them are just not worth it, ordanirly they're a favorite for most everyone. Right now if you're buying under $20/oz for silver you're doing OK all things considered. Also, premiums are lower on gold and starting to come down a bit

>> No.18988412

>>18988299
whats your budget? what are you comfortable putting into physical metals vs mining stocks or similar?

>> No.18988484

>>18988394
I think they said 5550 oz/ton US

the guy that found it got a $17k bonus if I remember right. I would've taken the rock...

I have some Summitville ore because my uncle worked there, but nothing quite that rich!

>> No.18988503

>>18988329
Long term hold, ideally holding for when fiat currency is replaced or reformed
>>18988412
Lets say 1000 a month purely in physical assets, and none in stocks because i already invest 1000 a month in other dividend yield stocks

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>>18988484
wha....what...
5550 OPT???!!?!

Holy shit I would take the rock too!

>> No.18988559

>>18988503
so anon, i'm a huge fan of silver, but that mostly because it moons higher then gold % wise in a recession.

but since you're talking long term, I would say 60/40 split your choice, maxing out at a 1000 oz of silver and just putting the rest in gold at that point.

and I would suggest looking into mining stocks with your other investments as well

>> No.18988568

>>18988503
also with that being said, I would suggest govt mint 1oz coins, or large bars like 1 kilo or bigger

>> No.18988601

>>18988559
yes I agree, add a list of some of the top miners like Goldcorp and Newmont, Pretium and maybe go with 10 ounce bars instead of the 1 ounce coins, they look better and are easier to store but its up to you.

>> No.18988645

>>18981594
They always seem to sell way above the market value at flea markets for silver around me.

>> No.18988679

>>18988548
they donated the rock to the museum in exchange for a tax break.

which was ironic since it was a Canadian company that supposedly trashed the watersheds with cyanide and then declared bankruptcy, leaving the US with a bill for billions of dollars in cleanup. Pretty funny stuff. But they got a lot of gold out of the site.

that boulder was just sitting on the side of a haul road, hundreds of people drove by it every day. One day one of the miners got curious and found that sucker. It's a wonder he didn't run off with it. He just stopped for a smoke and found that monster.

>> No.18988742

>>18986745
>>18986929
>>18987069
I have no gold.
Urban mining around me about, 5 miles or so out, isn't that hard with all the cramped housing in the surrounding areas. Its just a bit time consuming & also takes up a bit of space.

Slowly but surely planning out the river/creek mining.

>> No.18988763

>>18988679
i ve seen similar stuff happen, dude found a chunk of crystal gold in the waste material crusher pile at Eskay Creek. The sample sold for like $40,000. Again just out in the open.

>> No.18988771

>>18988742
good my apprentice, search out culverts and test them, they will help you on the right path.

>> No.18988773

>>18988601
Not him, but what about 100oz silver bars? It’s getting hard to find ten ounce bars on the sites that don’t charge me sales tax. I’d like to buy one at a time until I had 9. I already have 50oz on bars.

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>>18984882
By SEM-EDX, did you really mean to say 'actually they're pretty easy to detect based on differences in conductivity, and any retard with a $300 device can reliably catch them?' Because if you really meant to say that, it would be the truth you goddamn FUDding rice picker.

>> No.18988801

>>18988773
those work too, I just normally wouldnt suggest them up front.

>> No.18988826

>>18988763
that's awesome! I love that stuff like that still happens
>>18988780
take a survey and see how many here have that equipment.

and these are dedicated stackers, not grandma buying a coin to stuff in a sock drawer.

it doesn't matter if you can detect it or if I can. What matters is if the suckers buying them can. And we both know the answer to that. Like it or not this fucks your market.

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Alright meine negros, here's my latest bids. snapped up the kilo at 480something on the dip 2 months ago, had to wait 6+ weeks to get it. gold is a double sovereign.

>> No.18988842

>>18988780
>>18984882
didn't mean to reply to you, you're cool
>>18985178
is the one deserving fire.

>> No.18988858

>>18988771
>culverts
Man some of these on the main river here are just disgusting. I'm almost positive our systems are still dumping waist & feces. In fact the main river going through the state is labeled the most polluted river in the state.

That said I am sure I can find ones from roads near me...actually there's one right by place.

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>>18985191
No, not risking having stains on them, also milk

>> No.18988871

Someone start a new thread. I created the last two

>> No.18988936

>>18988858
o shit i forget sometimes people live in those places called cities. yea if its horrible dont go crawling around in a culvert.

>> No.18989016

>>18988936
The reason I'm in a city is a long story.
I'd share with you in a private message via discord, but that's not really encouraged on 4chan.

You go up 4 miles into the less populated areas & I'm almost positive I'd find foul culverts still. I don't know why our state has so many sewer like drainage in the main river. Its illegal, but they keep getting built it seems.

Any idea how shallow water has to be to avoid under toes?
There's a bridge near me built in like 1920 & the other one built in the 1840's. I cant imagine the first bridge being more than 2.7 ft deep & I know for a fact people use to throw trash there prior to the 40's. There might be some good coins there.

>> No.18989093

>>18989016
hard to say about under toes, its all about what your standing on i ve discovered. If its slimy rocks and your in a foot and a half of water, take one false step and your going swimming.

Be careful mate, poisoning yourself isnt worth it for gold.

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>>18986745
50% property (no mortgage)
25% gold
12% silver
10 % mining stocks
3% cash

0% debt
0% shitcoins
0% us stocks
0% bonds

Very cumfy fren

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18989179

I just realized frens one day soon we will have our own precious metals board
Just in last 24 months I seen massive uptick of discussion on PMs in biz
Feels good

>> No.18989289

no matter how screwed up the world gets, always remember boys, were going to make it!

>> No.18989354

>>18988801
Need advice then. Should I buy a 100oz bar of silver for $1944 or ten Secondary Market 10oz bars for $1894? There's no stock on new 10oz bars on my go-to website that doesn't charge me tax.

>> No.18989392

>>18989354
up to you but i would go with the 10 ounce bars if its cheaper. Whats the shipping cost look like?

>> No.18989401

>>18989392
Free shipping

>> No.18989434

>>18989392
I guess the big thing is you don't get to choose the bars that come on the secondary market. They are genuine, but "Secondary market bars are not necessarily new and may show signs of wear, handling, and toning".

The 100oz bar is new and a lot sexier, but that's perhaps not thinking practical.

>> No.18989462

>>18989434
yes your exactly right, you have no idea what your going to get with those ten bars but they should be legit unless some bs happened before you bought them. Its all up to you what you actually want in the end.

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>>18985191
I collect as a hobby kinda like baseball cards, I’m not concerned with keeping them perfect. The feel of pure silver in your hands is amazing and worth it. The shine of the face and feel of the reeds is bar none.

>> No.18989588
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>>18989506
How old is that coin anon ?
Do you guys like this 2oz I got from pheli mint 3 years ago?
They are such cool guys

>> No.18989609

>>18984905
>>18984956
xrf vs the sigma things that use induction i assume? Pan Daddy, whats the best method for testing metals?

>> No.18989617

Is it best to buy coins or bars?

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>>18989289
Damn right we will!

>> No.18989636

>>18986745
For available liquidity
>94% fiat
>6% gold
>0.01% ethereum
>0.005% silver

If you take my overall net worth however:
>61% fiat
>39% gold
>0.9% ethereum
>0.5% silver

>> No.18989641
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>>18989588
It’s so worn that I can’t make out a date. But the design on the reverse tells me that it was minted somewhere between 1917 and 1930.
The coin is the one on the right, notice the three stars in the middle.

>> No.18989777

>>18989609
I am not 100% an expert on this as I am not a chemist, but wet assay and fire assay produce the best results but destroy the sample. I ve never used one of the sigma devices, I am not sure how it works, honestly I should read up again how the XRF guns work as well. Most electronic sensors can have inaccurate readings though, so if you want the best results, a sample must be taken to an assayers for proper testing.

>> No.18989795

>>18989641
Awsome anon
your actually holding history

This was literally money and currency in the Great Depression
I’m betting that’s why it’s so worn maybe ?

>> No.18989907

>>18989777
I did some XRF at back at school, some shit with measuring secondary xrays, I recall it doesnt penetrate samples very well.

I took a quick look at the sigma patent, they dont have much information but I'd guess it inductively measures the samples resistance, different concentrations of gold or silver would have a characteristic resistance. Because pms have such low resistance impurities are probably easily detectable as they would significantly impact sample resistance, basically a fancier metal detector. Still learning this shit so, grain of salt.

>> No.18989967
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>>18989795
That’s a great way to look at it. I think “junk silver” doesn’t get the appreciation it deserves. The reason they are worn, like you said, is that it bought real goods, and probably quite a lot. Imagine the buying power of a single dime in 1924.