/biz/ - Business & Finance

>California

No nigga it’s fucked for the San Francisco NorCal bros. But us SoCal boys are cozy

>>18982446
The corruption of the state government will destroy the entire state. The first domino has fallen

Jannies closed the other thread on this?

To the anon who said that UC Berkeley is as white as California high school seniors—the undergrad population at Berkeley isn't made up solely of CA high school students. It also includes transfer students, out-of-state students and international students

The official policy of the UC is that they don't engage in affirmative action (because of court orders), but by looking at the numbers you can tell they do. UCLA, one of the most applied to schools in the country, still has a large portion of black and Latinos students. If it was a pure meritocracy, it would be just Asians, Whites, and Jews. De facto affirmative action goes on behind the scenes. A law professor at UCLA recently sued the UC to gain access to admissions data that (he suspects) would show that Asians are actively being discriminated against in admissions. It's funny, because no one gives a fuck about whites being discriminated against, but if you flip the script slightly (to Asians, for example) suddenly people think you have a cogent point and you go from being viewed as a racist to being a person perceived as having a logical argument.

>>18982549

Berkeley relies on foreign “donations” and raised out of country tuition rates. You have a retarded daughter in China? Just donate a few million and they will let her in. Harvard does the same shit, an both of these schools have massive
Endowments.

These same top administrators at these schools probably embezzle millions for themselves

>>18982667
We need to ban education. It only cause problems, short and long term. Hell without it we'd be a white religious utopia where women know their place. No more schools brainwashing our youth!

my state is already a wasteland, cant kill what is already dead

>>18982667

Did college turn into money-making schemes only recently, or was it always this Jewish and we're just now finding out about it?

>>18982356
Good get the fuck out of the area I grew up in and take those smelly ass pieces of shit you brought in with you bastards. Maybe I can move back and not deal with assholes that worship an asshat like musk soon

>>18982356
based. im buying tesla stock now

>>18982752
It started getting bad when Chinese started sending their kids here around mid 2000's

>>18982356
ok so explain what's going in OP

>>18982356
Good, I hope the economy in California craters and the voters realize what one-party government has done to them.

>>18982754
>assholes that worship an asshat like musk
Musk isn't the problem, California became great because of visionaries like him.

>>18982885
Voters won't realize shit, and Texas will turn blue thanks to "Muh Free Market" visas, and attracting whichever rift raft come flooding into it fleeing the Communist shithole..... Continuing the cycle.

>>18982720
>We need to ban education.
I genuinely can't tell if this is sarcasm or you're autistic.

>>18982720
Ask me how I know you’re a woman.

When are people going to realize Elon is just manipulating his stock price and getting away with it because Tesla is a fed project like Alphabet?

>>18983021
Nice cope, libshit. Stay SEETHING that a man who singlehandedly feeds your communist hellhole is leaving

>>18982769
Tesla appears to be moving it’s last factory out of California. He promises that he will never build a new one there. This is a bad sign for the State of CA. Other big businesses will reassess keeping their business in the state

>>18983006
Women support education because it brainwash men and turn them into soi addicted cucks you retard. Literally 100% of kids since 1990s turned out that way.

>>18982885
Those ‘visionaries’ like him and the startup faggots have made the state prohibitively expensive for people who grew up in it. Good riddance

>>18982885
If California is a bad state to operate then why did he build it there in the first place? Thought he was a genius?
>>18983074
You're retarded the fact is tesla stock is way overpriced and when it crashes he needs someone to blame

>>18983147
No. It’s literally the government’s fault that California is completely unaffordable and unlivable

>>18982356
>>18982356
good. im a californian and i support anything that destroys the taxable income for this piece of shit democrat run state. all they do is steal money and redistribute it to illegals and corrupt deals with unions and political insiders. i hope all companies leave californai and this piece of shit implodes and Trump sends in the army and re-establishes rule of law and the constitution and strings up maxine waters and gavin newsome, pelosi and feinstein on gallows at the capitol for their crimes against humanity

>>18982467
We don’t worship Tesla I could not give a single fuck if Tesla goes bankrupt. In fact I’d rejoice in glee if that happened .
> Musk is controlled opposition.

Elon Musk is much more than just an average politically opinionated tech CEO. He is an intel asset. He is just like Jeff Bezos, Mark ZuckerBerg, Tom Hanks, Jack Dorsey or Bill Gates. They all have specific high-profile public image in their respective fields, however they are also active behind the scenes, all connected through the same entity of common intel agency. Intelligence agencies are especially heavily interested and invested in all tech sectors, especially space and remote-controlled cars, so just like they have journalists as assets that work for big newspapers to publish or spin specific story that CIA wants, they have tech CEOs, developers etc. that do CIA's bidding. When one of them shows a higher potential, then that person gets into smaller, close-circle of powerful people. Elon Musk is one of them. He is glowing brighter that supernova. Just research his involvement with companies and where they get their money from. Government subsidies are not to "help" company grow, but to make them govt's slave. Everything that comes from Musk is guaranteed to have backdoors and other hidden surprises.

Just search for "Tesla subsidies", or "Space X subsidies" and you will see. Musk would be a total nobody if he wasn't compromised, 100% controlled and propped up. Just like all these people I mentioned above. They are all part of something bigger.

Also, check Musk's ties with Michael Griffin, (head of NASA 2005-2009). Griffin was also working for In-Q-Tel, a CIA subdivision.

>>18983188
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7361801/Jeffrey-Epstein-claimed-crisis-manager-Elon-Musk.html
>https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-moguls-jeffrey-epstein-connected-bill-gates-elon-musk-2019-8#elon-musk-ceo-of-tesla-and-spacex-2
https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/13/epstein-musk-saudi-tesla/
>https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-ex-girlfriend-dated-kimbal-musk-brother-of-tesla-founder-elon-musk-2020-1

>>18982752
recently. it started when they started forcing "student loans" as mandatory for lenders

>>18983188

>>18983188
_

Elon Musk is a Faux-charismatic asshole with a cult following of idiots who thinks he does no wrong.
A moneyed retard who cant handle a quarantine-in-place and wants to put his employees back to work in a viral cultivator to build luxury vehicles no one is in a position to purchase right now.

He's a loud Twitter personality like our idiot president, and if California bends for this corporate cunt thatll set a dangerous precedent for other corporate cunts to demand consideration as an ~essential business~ rendering the whole quarantine fucking moot

>>18982549
Jannies are objectively the worst people in the world.

>>18983166
He said because it was close to his Spacex operation hq

>>18983238
COVID-19 is a budget cold. i have it right now. my throat is barely sore.

>>18983238
I'm wondering what his end game is here
>creates a cult following of young Americans, based on false promises like building bases on mars, curing anything wrong with the brain, etc
>turns his following against american companies like ford and nasa
>now hes making them turning against their government officials
Anarchist confirmed

>>18983343

doesn't give you a sore throat

>>18983300
What did California even do that hes mad about? Sounds like his employees dont want to be in a factory where all the parts are shipped in from china.

>>18983168
The corrupt state government enabled those companies to take more than their share and run up the prices on us. Fuck them both.

>>18983074
ok but why? what is the cali government doing to him; what is the lawsuit about?

>>18983441
Pretty Boy Newsome is keeping the state in lockdown. Musk needs to get his production lines moving. Pretty fucking simple to figure out.

>>18983520
Not letting him reopen the Fremont factory, the lawsuit is against the county

>>18983188
dilate

>>18983520
Newsom could override that Alameda health clerk with 1 phone call but he chooses not to so Elon just gave him a broadside.

Elon giving him another few years of a buffer to explain why Tesla still can't make money except through tax breaks
2024: "We had to move our hq and factory! :^)"

>>18982356
My family's been in CA since the gold rush but I'm going to get the hell put of here after my parents pass away. This state is pozzed as fuck.

>>18983772
Same here, I'm actively looking to leave. It's getting beyond insane here now.

>>18982885
>Musk is a visionary
The cult of Elon though jesus christ

>>18983804
Yeah, it's sad though since our ancestors built this place but the hoards were let in little by little and finally broke the state's back.

>>18983861
>MfcLM12w
If Elon died today his contributions to both rocket and battery technology alone would grant him a place among the greatest pioneers of all time you salty cuck.

>>18983967
He isn't a rocket scientist or a battery engineer. He's a social media personality masquerading as a businessman

>>18982356
Californian whose job revolves around dealing with building department red tape and bureaucracy here. I wish I had as much leverage as Musk when it came to these god damn cock sucking building and safety scumbags. They make it increasingly difficult to build shit and get permits for anything, for no good reason other than to justify their existence and paychecks. They're a fucking cancer upon California which is why so many builders and manufacturers are leaving. I hope all the bureaucrats who are working on increasing regulations and red tape to build simple ass shit get ass tumors.

>>18984004
Correction:
> was a good businessman, dont forget Paypal, he is now a clown

>>18984004
>He isn't a rocket scientist or a battery engineer. He's a social media personality masquerading as a businessman

>>18983967
First of all hes not creating this shit the engineers are hes just the rich trust fund kid who bought them out. Also his SpaceX is a joke big deal you know how to shoot a object in the air and have it land in the same spot. A 5 year old knows how to do that. He just puts big fancy rockets on them and thinks hed a genius. It would be impressive if his rockets could actually enter space but they arent powerful enough

>>18982356
California is about to go full on Detroit mode in the next year

>>18984061
based schizoposter

>>18984080
if by going full detroit, you mean getting more niggers and unemployment, then yes

>>18983772
Anyone I knew born in CA moved the fuck out years ago. It's all transplants and illegals now. I used to wonder how bad it would get before people pushed out, but I gave up on that idea. The dems are so entrenched in CA you'd need a biblical comet event to take out the statehouse and Congress to change it - and even then the residents would elect more dems. (Not that pubs would be any better. See: Ronald Reagan)

Sad, really, CA is one of the more beautiful states, scenery wise but it's the most fucked up in every other way. Up until the 60's it was the golden paradise of the US. Now it's just a pretty ghetto.

>>18983204
Forcing them as mandatory? What do you mean?

>>18983419
It gave me a sore throat.

Why the fuck do you idiots think this is a good thing? They'll move to white states and fill them with degeneracy and diversity.

>>18984141
Not even remotely true, it depends on where you live. I'm in OC which is a republican bastion. LA is a shithole plain and simple, just a complete garbage dump. San Diego and NorCal are beautiful.

Relative to the rest of the country it's fucking paradise. If you move somewhere based solely on politics then you're a retard - especially if you're a conservative as the most conservative states are dogshit.

>>18984538
>I'm in OC which is a republican bastion.

Guess you haven’t been paying attention recently then.

>>18984509
>Texas white

Pic is you, huh?

>>18984092
Except it's true when elon tries being independent he makes "boring company" where he sold a shitty flamethrower and dug a hole in the ground. Such a genius

>>18984595
Texas will be purple in the 20s.

>>18983053
>implying elon and his nonbinary child wont just build another leftist state power house
cope :^)

>>18982993
It's how every redditor argues. They are raised to be passive aggressive little bitches who lace every sentence with sarcasm because they think it makes them look more intelligent than they really are. It's also a method of getting more internet points.

>>18983238
Fucking simpleton's normie take, get the fuck back to peddit.

>>18982446
From SoCal, in NorCal. How is it better for SoCal? We lost Boeing and Honda and if Elon has Tesla leave CA, then I doubt that SpaceX and Boring Company will continue to be here. Tim Ferriss went to Texas, who else? Even I doubt Thiel will stay that long in LA. LA will just be full of entertainment lawyers and plastic surgeons

>>18984862
Plus it's a strawman. Obviously women need an education as well, otherwise how the hell will they be able to follow cooking instructions.

>>18984141
My family has been here for decades, you don’t know shit

>>18984962
It's yours now Juan, good luck with it!

Unapologetically based.

Not an Elonbro but the unending decay that is California and the cultural/economic poison they spread across other nations deserves nothing but consequence and financial starvation.

>>18982356
I'd bet a lot of money that this is the sentiment in every big company in California. The only reason more haven't left is the cost of moving itself. California state gov cant mind its own fucking business and the taxes are way too high.

>>18984034
And people wonder why housing prices in California are so high.

>>18982356
CA has a very interesting dynamic that has entrenched it for years. It is the only state with dry warm coastland meaning that no matter how many people leave, get pissed off over politics, taxes etc there will always be more people trying to get in than leave. As a result, wealth / successful people go to CA, contribute, and CA becomes more rich, but with permanent WFH we may see this dynamic change. Why try getting a house in Palo Alto or Manhattan Beach if you can get something better for cheaper in a nice suburb with low taxes in another state while you get to WFH and keep your job?

Tesla makes like 9 cars a year. Who gives a shit. Besides that he is just talking shit.

>>18985158
People kept underestimating how the US economy would perform over the last three years in large part in my opinion because they underestimated the positive impact on Trump rolling back tons of regulations.

>>18983624
musk worshiping reddit poster lmao

>>18982356
damn

>>18985173
>there will always be more people trying to get in than leave.

That’s not the case now though. CA population is now decreasing for the first time in forever and the state expects to lose congressional seats following the census completion.

>>18983295
It’s cuz they work for free, only a communist would work for free.

>>18982356
Nigga they literally told wait 3 more weeks. He has more to lose than gain over waiting 3 fucking weeks because of his solar factory and spacex

>>18984923

Huge defense tech presense in SD

>>18984923
Huge defense tech presence in SD

>>18984538
Oooh OC, which has fuck all influence in Sacramento.

Sacramento run Bartertown, stupid.

>>18984962
Illegals don't count.

>>18985678
Thats what your mom told your dad when she got caught

>>18985536
3 week, and in 3 weeks it will be another month. Then another month.

Disney is freaking because they're talking Disneyland being closed until 2021. I know people trying to book conferences in CA in late summer, and the venues are saying 'We're not sure we'll be open yet."
Musk, regardless of how much of a [insert insult] that he is, is right to be freaking out, the rumors going around everywhere is that CA is locked down until next year, they're just going to push the deadline back slowly, in small steps.

>>18983188
So why did he just get a huge huge loan from what is now the US biggest opposition? Take off the tinfoil

>>18985328
We all know you trannys only started hating on Elon after he started talking shit about the NY Times/CNN.

>>18985721
>they're just going to push the deadline back slowly, in small steps.
This seems to be happening pretty much everywhere, and it's fucking bullshit. It's incredibly transparent what the state governments are doing with this goalpost moving shit. Everyone can see that they're going to keep delaying reopenings over and over again. Only reason they're not being honest about it is because they know people would protest and riot even more if they were told the truth about these indefinite lockdowns over the flu

>>18982356
Good, fuck California, I hate it.

Texas and Nevada is better.

>>18985439
Thats what I'm pointing out, this dynamic is changing with how bad things have gotten recently politically and now with WFH, there will be tons of workers who would rather own a mansion in OH than a shack in Palo Alto

>>18985328
pic related

>>18982356
Get the IT and Film industry out of CA too. Texas is good.

>>18982752
College tuition was like $500 a few decades ago. This scam didn't start until the 00s.

>>18982667
>Berkeley relies on foreign “donations” and raised out of country tuition rates.
That's literally all the universities.

>>18984141
I live in Central California. Yeah you'll call us rednecks and shit like that but my family (mom's Irish side) can literally be traced through to the gold rush. My dad's anglo ancestors came here in the late 1800s. I love living here because I love latinas and cheap housing but I hate how pozzed and retarded the majority of people outside of Tulare/Kern/Fresno/Madera counties are.

>>18983441
California existing is disgusting

Illegals and niggers, dump it into the ocean

fuck you

>musk is controlled opp

Only jidf would imply that, because they hate Musk.

>>18985903
Based.

>>18985880
>I love latinas
Pretty cringe bro.

>>18985961
I grew up with them. They like the BWC. What can I say? Not like I'd actually impregnate one lol.

>>18985812
It's pretty obvious why they're doing it: the states were fucked, budget-wise. Now they want Trump to fire up the Fed printer and bail them out.

Might even happen. Fuck it, if we're gonna fuck our great grandkids, just fuck their kids, too.

>>18985982
>I'll never accidentally impregnate a female

Famous last words

>>18985812
While I agree with the ultimate goal of these pushbacks, I know people who called this nothingburger what it was at the beginning who now buy whole cloth into the muh masks meme solely because of what they heard on TV. It's sad.

>>18985880
Nobody cares. I said in my original post everyone I KNEW, anyway. That doesn't count your broke ass central valley fucks, now does it?

>>18986024
I rawdogged my latina ex for 4 years and didn't have a kid since she had an IUD. Yeah, I might have been playing with fire, but it didn't burn me.

>>18986057
Seethe more shitskin. I'm pulling down 100k a year over here in oil and gas, with job security in the current market. I live like a fucking king in a white neighborhood.

>>18982356
Musk knows how to play the (((System))) it's freaking amazing.
I wouldn't be surprised if the german Gigafactory gets scrapped (mainly because due to German ineptness) and is being moved to the lowest bidder somewhere in the benelux territory or east of Germany.
(meaning: which country funds the GIgafactory entirely gets the thing)

>>18986106
Okay now stop fucking around and go make some white babies before you have an "accident".

>>18986079
Do you want your children to be retarded?

>>18983188
I hope you’re drunk or larping lmao

>>18983862
the spic infestation is out of control. step foot out your door and its like mexico but everything is 10x more expensive. whats the fucking point?

What's faggot Elon going to do when we ban anything made in China?

>>18986106
Cool story, bro. Amazing how successful everyone on /biz is.

>>18986509
The same thing as everyone else, lose a shit ton of money.

Apple is WAY more worried than Musk is, though.

>>18986509
Trump's not that stupid. I could see Biden or obama or most others doing that

>>18983772
based. its browntown now might as well leave its not even recognizable as america in most parts. it sucks we let them take a whole part of our country like that.

>>18986509
Never going to happen dumbfuck.

>>18983238
based and high IQ post

>>18983705
The most based, red pilled, and honest take in this entire thread. Elon Musk is a Silicon Valley veteran. He knows that the only surefire way to stay alive is to defer your responsibility and duties to the shareholder for as long as possible. He's good at dangling the carrot in front of the asses that invest in his ventures.

>>18984205
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_Education_Act_of_1965

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Direct_Student_Loan_Program

>>18985173
california is having a mass exodus right now as the producers are fleeing and unfortuantely the libtards will follow

>>18985811
False flagging cyber agent

>>18983230
Just confirmed that's a real tweet. Yeah he's definitely in the club. Obviously he's worked very hard and been very smart for the pedos to court him though. Salty faggots >>18984061 who assume he was handed this stuff from a trust fund or government agency are coping losers. I think the conspiracy is both more real and less organised than people think.

>>18982356
>my wealth is more important than your health
>yes, im a billionaire, but i want another billion so go back to work cuck

WOW, when did Elon become such a huge faggot?

how to short california

>>18982356
Elon musk is based af.

>>18982356
>set up shop in commie shithole for muh gibs
>cry when they commie you
lmao what an absolute retard, there's a reason no other auto manufacturer is left there

>>18982356
Elon Musk is possibly the single largest welfare queen in the US, the only person that might have him beat is Jeff Bezos

>>18987341
TABC in Long Beach is hanging in there, for now. But most manufacturing in all industries left CA long ago, mostly thanks to unions and the state taxing the bejeezus out of everyone. Even Xerox was running plants in Fremont in the 80's, it's all gone. CA has been a powerhouse of manufacturing in it's history, it's fucking sad to see it all replaced with strip malls.
I'm sure the fact that the buildings Musk moved into were already set up for cars had a lot to do with why he moved into his location, along with the gibs from the state and being close to silicon valley, Tesla's first and biggest market.

>>18987470
Oh, and throw in that his location is near the port of Oakland, which helps since so much of a Tesla is assembled in China. Moving to Texas will be interesting for him. The shipping costs will be significantly higher.

>>18987015
Lol he was handed everything. His father was a millionaire before elon was born he had mansions and yachts all over Africa. Elon graduates and is too stupid to become a scientist so he goes home and is a millionaire a few years later? Please his dad gave him money to invest and he got lucky. Never had to work a day in his life.

>>18987493
You think his team of highly skilled analysts don't know that? This is because China is done and California has lost that advantage. Texas will be a fine location to ship stuff in from Mexico. And California can't play gatekeeper because many states border Mexico and need to compete to draw businesses.

>>18982446
>>18984923
Wine and weed. All you have to do is establish the great state of Jefferson and be sure to take Sonoma and Napa with you. It might be tough, but those limousine liberals will ultimately vote for their financial interest if you spell it out for their stoned asses.

>>18987569
Possibly. But it's gonna take a while to get Mexico tooled up for the components they'd need. Mexico might even make higher quality than China. Not sure. I'm just saying, he knew what he was doing buying an old car plant, he saved a bundle retooling. Not sure what it would take to find a good location elsewhere - are there any abandoned car factories in Texas suitable?

>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BE A COMMIE STATE AND MAKE THE MOST MONEY OUT OF EVERY STATE
>DIVERSITY HAS FAILED! DON'T YOU REMEMBER MERKEL SAYING THAT!?

>Elon raving like a lunatic again
>People are still listening to him

I don't get the cult of personality behind the guy

>>18984004
>masquerading
no he actually is a business man. He just lost his way at some point. Probably too many drugs of late.

>>18987516
>Lol he was handed everything.
100% certain that if my dad gave me or you $100m we'd still never become a billionaire. Chill out bro, so fucking angry

>>18987868
people lacking personality flock to vocal personalities to compensate

>>18987516
Lol, I bet you're a NEET.

>>18987953
Ah cmon 100m is fairly easy. 10 million is what trump started with and Elon.

>>18987868

>>18986147
He's got all the ability of a high level corrupt Jew with white male engineering ability to do something good with it. Powerful combo. The guy is taking over, not just the world but the solar system and he's got 6 male heirs (so far) to carry on the lagacy.

Give me ONE good reason you aren't investing in this man.

>>18988557
>taking over the solar system
>spacex rockets arent even powerful enough to leave earths orbit
Delusional

>>18982763
This.
They are like the culty Joos kinda

>>18988557
>do something good with it
>one of, if not the most, biggest welfare queens in the US
Intellectual monopoly should be abolished, I hate intellectual monopoly yet that motherfucker open sourced some stuff one of the few times it shouldn't be. He developed something that could be patented using US subsidies, then open sources it so any other country can legally use it even though it was created with US tax payer money.
He is a kike in spirit

>>18987678
It's a pretty obvious choice.
https://tetakawi.com/industries/automotive/

reading this thread is the most moronic shit ive ever fucking read. This fucking moron doesnt believe covid is legit and all these pizza faggots think any reference to pizza is a pedo. Fuck gb2/nu/pol/ with this garbage nonsense

>>18988576
>rockets designed to go to orbit aren't powerful enough to leave orbit
What the hell kind of brainlet attempt at reasoning is this?

>>18988735
Covid is legit but it being overblown is what people are starting to get pissed off about.

>>18988787
Its not overblown its just faggots dont understand the social distancing and stay at home orders have fucking worked. The second wave is going to be fucking bad because stupid fucking morons think its overblown. Whatever the only reason Elon is pissed is cause he wants his work force back. Now hes throwing a bitch fit over it. WAGE SLAVE AWAY

>>18988865
Its only deadly to people that are overweight or have lung and/or heart disease...which they most likely got from being overweight or not working out

Man there is a lot of shit in this thread which would take forever to read through and reply to ... but ...

A friend works in marketing for a university. They have marketing departments because they need to actively sell courses, especially to international students. If you start thinking as a business then yes, you've got to expand your customer base, reduce your costs, increase your margins, all the usual shit. China is a huge deal and universities compete globally for the $$$. Fees for international students are massive and make up over 50% of her universities budget so they spend a lot of money on advertising, outreach and conventions. Fees are massive for domestic students as well, but they are capped sooo ... not as lucrative. Many universities have now grown so large that they need the revenue from these foreign students, relying on domestic now would require a ridiculous restructuring to the point where I don't think the huge and well paid management and bureaucracy could or would be willing to see it through. Too long of "I earn ridiculous salary because I manage hundreds of managers" ... if all those managers aren't needed, the salary isn't justified, suddenly you are supposed to teach, administrate, manage a lean team, not going to happen they'd actively work against it to preserve themselves.

Elon Musk ... wtf? His company on paper is dogshit tech hype bubble. Even the technicals match your gut feeling. Look outside the window and see his market share, see his reach, even from the perspective of the man on the street there is nothing going on. Guy has a cult of personality. Don't know why nerds think his is the saviour of the human race. Also most business owners/wealth creators are the biggest welfare queens on the block. HOW IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO HELP ME SURVIVE? HOW IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO HELP ME GET BACK ON MY FEET? I AM ESSENTIAL. MUH WORKERS. MUH LABOUR.

Even where I work and have vested interest in company success I'm sickened by it.

>>18988865
>second wave
>stay at home and social distance worked

>>18988920
Obesity is a cofactor with a lot of shit. I think it is more like deadly to dumb poor people and obesity is often found in those groups.

So yeah these fat people died. Also these fat people happened to be poor and retarded and smokers and have health problems and failed to follow advice and didn't seek medical aid at the right times and caught it in the first place.

>>18988923
no one read all that

>>18982356
topkek @ pic related

>>18988928
COVID is pretty legit. It might not look like a big deal to the average 20 something, but a lot of working age people who do economically useful things are late 30's to early 50's and it looks a bigger deal to them. Also is it a massive deal to the elderly and ... love or hate them we still look after them as much as possible because they are a vulnerable group and if we are lucky we all get old eventually.

You said it is overblown. In what way? It just is. Stay at home/social distancing measures have helped to reduce infection. Relaxing of those measures without an reduction in known infectivity and improvements in outcomes will result in lots more people getting infected and an appropriately scaling death rate (to a point, but it'd be an ugly point).

I don't want to catch it. I might at some point, maybe it is inevitable, but I don't want to. From my perspective at this point it is being spread and caught by stupid people. We know quite a lot about it now, you've got to be somewhat stupid now to catch it.

I sometimes think the government reaction is overblown. But then I think about how retarded the general population can be. Also many unknowns. You must wait for evidence. For all we know it causes kids to grow up missing 30 points of IQ. You don't just let it tear through a population based on a gut feeling ... you've got to await evidence.

Bye bitch. We'll be alright. The next Tesla will sprout up. Cali finds a way.

>>18989058
Unless you're someone that would die from COVID, having the flu is worse

>>18989070

>>18989058
It's really easy to see that you guys are trying shame people for saying it's overblown. I can sense the anger from your post like this line
>lel economically USEFUL people care about it

Why do you want people to go hungry? People need to work to get to eat and have a family, especially at those ages. We destroyed a 19 trillion dollar economy for less than 100k deaths? Those deaths are fake numbers to. You can figure out that hospitals were faking numbers to get paid more. We now have way more unemployed than covid deaths. Stop trying to continue overblowing it.

>>18988920
Keep telling yourself that its only happening to them. When at first everyone thought it was only happening to chinks. Kinda funny how the chinks arent fat but still died in massive numbers. Fucking off yourself faggot.
>>18989083
bullshit, i know someone who got it and it was far worse then the flu. Kill yourself faggot coping NIGGERS

>>18989084
Prime Silicon Valley days. Everything is just soiboi companies now. Not sure when the engineers gave way to the "artist" creative types.

>>18989200
I actually had COVID-19 and didn't know it until I got tested faggot, asymptomatic, wish I was asymptomatic every time I had the flu

>>18988744
Theres a difference between orbiting the earth and being able to exit earths orbit. His rockets arent powerful enough to exist earth orbit even though nasa did it 6o years ago. He always talks about cheap they are well that's because a ICBM has more power then his rocket does

>>18989195
>Why do you want people to go hungry?
Nobody wants that.
>Those deaths are fake numbers to
This is why you get people trying rather passionately to talk sense to you. You are being as delusional as the 9/11 inside job crowd and the flat earth lot, but in this case it will affect all of us. Yes it is desirable to reopen the economy, what you don't get is that you'll be the one who actually ruins the attempts to do so because you think doctors conspire and it's really no big deal so you won't take social distancing seriously, and deaths will resume spiking.

>>18982356
>insiders exercising options that don't expire until 2026
>people still bullish on TSLA

>>18989255
Have you tried going for a run? Your lungs are probably fucked but you didn't notice.

>>18989377
How am I being delusional when the info is literally out there and blown wide open with a few searches? And trust me, I actually do take care of myself and social distance. But as I said people need to eat and some jobs might have them be around a lot of people. Lockdown technically already ended with people protesting and going to beaches kek. The people have decided already. Gonna have to side with Enron Musk here on him moving out of CA because they don't want to open up.

>>18989083
Part of the point is that wider society thing that allowing it to spread through otherwise healthy individuals increases the infections to vulnerable individuals and makes it harder for society to manage. I guess it depends on where you fall on social vs individual. I have to eat. My family has to eat. But I'm also part of a wider society. I also don't know/don't have enough evidence to suggest that the flu is worse. Maybe COVID does nothing to me. Maybe it fucks me up for 6 months. Maybe it leaves me with weak lungs for life. Also I've had the flu like ... twice in my entire life. We live with the flu because we have to, we'll likely have to live with COVID too, but it doesn't mean I want to catch it any more than I want to catch the flu especially until there is further evidence and more long term data.

>>18989195
Dude I sometimes thing the reaction is overblown too, equally I can see that wider decision on policy like this has to be based on evidence and at the point lockdown was introduced there was very little decent evidence. Again it is about the burden to the wider community. Also if we did nothing at all, business as usual we'd still have COVID related issues. People off sick, people dying, people staying at home, people isolating there would still be an impact it is just weird to assume that the choice is between what we had before COVID and what we have now. It'd be what we have now, but different.

Also ... I'm still going to work and have done throughout this. I'm attempting to adapt to the current reality rather than piss and moan about one I'd rather see. This is because I've got to eat and my family has to eat. But I'm not calling for everything to 'go back to normal' because it isn't, this is just a fact that isn't within my control. I still don't want to catch it though and I still think people catching it are mostly fucking stupid at this point.

>>18982356
Watching Commiefornia's last redeeming attribute getting striped from it makes me excited.

>>18989255
well you probably have but didn't notice, you don't get tested for the flu when you feel fine in a normal situation. Same thing with minor corona viruses that people get with colds

>>18984061
You obviously have no idea what he does. Space X is going to start space tourism next year. Something no private company is even close to.

>>18982356
I dumped all my Tesla last night for Unification before main net. How fucked am i?

>>18989722
Isn't it basically like thinking a company offering tourists diving tours is going to somehow revolutionise the world? It feels like some turn of the century Jules Verne bullshit.

>>18989411
if it damaged his lungs he WOULD know. He would need to cough, then you immune system pulls a stupid and attacks the healthy lung cells rather than the virus ridden ones

>>18989299
Retard, to get things to orbit you have to get then going around the earth really fast. Shooting stuff into space is easy, just fucking shoot it out there. Also SpaceX isn't about showing off it's big dick, they actually make money.

>>18989299
Not sure why you assume they can't or that there is currently a need to.

>>18982549
I live right by the campus (not a student) but I will say there is a huge amount of asians here, many of which i assume are students (based on their clothes, age, general proximity to campus)

>>18989818
Jesus fuck American education lol. Do you even understand what escape velocity is you actual nigger

It takes more effort to escape a planet's gravity than it does to almost escape. Even a nigger like you should be able to understand at least that much. When you fail to escape, your trajectory and momentum determines your path. You might follow a parabola back down to the ground, or go into orbit (ellipse that decays over time).

Satellites are shot up into orbit at less than escape velocity (duh, because otherwise they'd escape). Once you get a satellite up there you don't have to "get it going really fast", it is ALREADY going really fast, that's how it got the fuck up there. It stays in orbit because it is continually falling towards the planet at the same rate it is moving away from the planet at whatever particular angle. An object in motion stays in motion, Newton's first fucking law dumbfuck

Gow do I short Cali real estate?

>>18989021
>implying those Impotent Rage faggots where actually Tesla customers and not McDonalds workers
oh, the delusion