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Over 50% of COVID deaths in UK/Europe are from care homes.
Average length of stay in a care home before death of natural causes is 800 days.
We have caused untold damage, will have record levels of economic difficulty/unemployment, and businesses close on record numbers without the governments of Europe able to bail them all out just so some coffin dodgers could live an extra 800 days in the best case scenario?

I cant tell if this is a fucking dream or real life. This makes no sense to me anymore.

UK in particular seems to be trying to avoid easing lockdowns as long as possible, like they dont want to avoid economic collapse.

>> No.18886995

Ok. Non retarded normy take.

Listen lads.
The major problem is that we dont know the actual effects of the virus.
That sounds like a basic statement, but the ramifications are huge.
One of my 32 year old best friends just died of stroke.
Stroke heart attack and kidney failure for people ages 30 to 50 is through the roof.
Its coming from covid.

We dont even know if were all getting permamnet damage and will all drop dead in 3 years.

This is why caution is important.
Understand?

>> No.18887077

>>18886995
Well, it's a fact that having pneumonia fucks your lungs permanently.

>> No.18887102

>>18886995

No. fuck off with that stale pasta. Your "friend" is probably american and a fat piece of shit which is why stroke and heard failure is through the roof, chocking on big macs every day, and getting even less exercise than the pathetic walk to the car twice a day before the lockdown.

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>>18886737
>>18887102

>> No.18887256 [DELETED] 

>>18886995
You’re a nigger

>> No.18887312

>>18887077
Exactly.

>>18887102
Retard. Listen.

What were learning now is that covid is causing blood coagulation. Thus the strokes, heart attack, kidney failure, etc.

It is ALSO causing people with strong immune systems to have their own immune systems to turn on them and kill them.

The point is that we need to learn lessons from this shit.
Next time we cant have Trump voting Retards out in the streets. They need to learn and accept that theyre stupid people and need to shut the fuck up and do whatever health officials tell them to do.

These dumb dumbs listen to trump as if he doesnt just make shit up and freestyle all day and isnt simply trying to stop the stock market from falling - extremely extremely dim witted people

>> No.18887322

>>18887312
Lmao.

>> No.18887406

It's a pandemic bro

>> No.18887465

>>18887406
BRO. Nanobodies.

>> No.18887487

>>18887312

Still waiting for proof of this shit. you fucking faggots have been saying this since January and there is still NO PROOF.

It eveovles from
>muh testicle damage
>muh lung scaring
>muh HIV
>muh re-catching it and dying
>muh evolving into aids
>muh bio weapon
>much lung damage
>muh blood coagulation

>just wait two more week bro

You are a paranoid fucking loser and you keep shilling stuff with no proof, then come up with a new one with no proof when nothing develops from it. Just fuck off.

>> No.18887520

>>18887406
It’s just a common flu bro

>> No.18887743

>>18887312
>dude just throw the first ammendment out the window lmao

>> No.18887842

>>18887487
lmao calling someone paranoid when you sound like you buy Alex Jones' dick supplements is the richest thing i've ever read

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>>18887487
Jesus you really are a dimwitted pussy.
Im not paranoid. Im actually awfully cavalier with this shit considering how much i know about it. Im not tip toeing at all.

Im talking about simple facts and simple logic.
>no proof
Have you ever heard of Google. Stop burying your head in the sand.
- look up stroke and heart attack rates
- look up the immune systen reactions
- look up how people are testing postive again and again 6 weeks later
- look up how we can get it over and over
- look up US projections skying again

>>18887743
>first ammendment
Fuck you guys are painfully dumb.

Fox news isnt real you complete super pussies.
You need to Look in the mirror. Have the spine to admit to yourself that you listened to the retarded side.
You got duped into falling for contrarian faggot shit and trumps cult of personality because fox news made you piss your panties for 15 years saying
>isis gunna hurt u
>muslims gunna hurt u
>hillary gunna hurt you
>guatemalan cleaning lady gunna hurt u
>we need wall
>obama is secret muslim gunna take ur guns
You guys are the antithesis of patriots. You are straight up stupid pussies who were tricked by fear tactics into voting for rich peoples tax cuts AGAIN.

So dont tell me about paranoia and being a loser
Im loling at your life

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>>18887941
Lololololol trump israel cucks owned

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>>18886737
>UK in particular seems to be trying to avoid easing lockdowns as long as possible
Just doing what the public wants- Bongs are an island nation of natural NEETs. Shut the place right the fuck down. everyone happy as a pig in shit. Only 23% of people want lockdowm lifted - thats the lowest % in the world And for reference, also a nation of contrarian cunts. Getting 77% of people to agree on ANY other subject, is virtually impossible. tldr, fuck your economy, lockdown stays. 'Go back to work, but, the pubs stay shut..' - fuck that noise

>> No.18888176

>>18887941
AMENDMENT I:
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
AMENDMENT XIV SECTION I:
>All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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>>18887312
imagine falling for the msm gates propaganda this hard
pleb lmao

>> No.18888256

>>18887166
lmao the absolute state of burgers

>> No.18888293

>>18887312
>trying to educate retarded 16 year olds who think they're on to deh guberment after discovering /pol
You will learn with experience anon

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>>18886737
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO WORK I NEED TO BUY MR. SHEKELSTEIN A NEW YACHT
>AAAAAAAAA YOU CAN KEEP ME FROM GOING TO MY BARBERRINOS AND RESTAURANTINOS, I WILL USE MY ASSAULT RIFLE TO FORCIBLY BE LET BACK INTO WORK, INSTEAD OF DEMANDING AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE AND THE POSSIBILITY OF OWNING A HOME WITHOUT SLAVING MY ENTIRE LIFE
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M GONNA CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Idiots.

>> No.18888333

>>18888176
congress isn't issuing these shut down orders you absolute pile of steaming rat shit.

and the state's are, in fact, giving people life by telling you to stay the fuck home fuuuuuuuck people like you are enigmas

>> No.18888360

>>18888236
Imagine believing trump "is smart" and "reads words" or "collects information" or "consults experts"

And oh yeah
>you know what my favorite book is? The bible!
>i love the 2nd ammendment!
>i love the american flag and the military!
How fucking mindblowingly braindead do you have to be to sincerely even consider that there might be any truth in these statments.
Human beings as a race are doomed.

>> No.18888363

>>18887166
I am an overweight furry faggot Gaylord from the south and I approve this message

>> No.18888367

>>18888333
>people
Barely subhuman, if not apes, kek

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>>18888360
Ahahahahaa holy fuck dude you are killing me. In going to call DCYS for child abuse at this rate. Please stop hurting them like this.

>> No.18888480

>>18888333
14th Amendment extends Bill of Rights to state and local governments faggot

>> No.18888484

>>18888318
based

>> No.18888513

>>18888360
all those symptoms you mentioned are chronic illnesses caused by being a fat pos with diabetes
the flu is just pushing these walking blobs over the tightrope they are walking

>> No.18888550

>>18887312
thanks for being a voice of reason in here anon...

>> No.18888661

>>18888513
Dude, do.you think im trying to push some "MSM agenda!!"
Stop with the desperation to make things follow the conspiracies you see on pol.

Have balance. Stop picking sides.
Yes being a fat ass absolutely predisposes you to much higher risk.
It doesnt negate anything else i said.

The point remains. We do not comprehensively know the effects - which makes this absolutely dangerous.
And more importantly the Next bad virus that comes around might take 3 weeks to show symptoms and might kill 3/4ths the planet.

This is the quintisential reason why people like trump are dangerous- they fatally damage the concepts of truth, reality, believability, and institutions as a whole.
Very. Bad. Precedent. For the future.

>> No.18888678

>>18888480
I never said it didn't. in fact I offered why you were wrong in your use of the 14th amendment.

what the government is doing is constitutional because it is to protect society's rights to LIFE

sorry you have all this time on your hands since the middle schools are shut down, maybe occupy more time by spamming left wing twitter accounts on the throwaway handle you made with the vpn you pay for with mommy's money

>> No.18888708

>>18888678
>what the government is doing is constitutional because it is to protect society's rights to LIFE
Court rulings will determine this. You aren't a supreme court judge

>> No.18888715

>>18888708
you are?

>> No.18888729
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>>18886737
The economy is a Ponzi that was beginning to crash last year. The Fed started pumping billions in liquidity into the repo market each day starting in September of last year just to keep everything from imploding but it wasn’t fixing the problem. They needed to do more. At the same time the Fed was lying and saying that the economy was fundamentally strong, Trump was lying and saying we had the greatest economy in history. They needed an excuse to start printing trillions of dollars to keep the Ponzi afloat. Along comes the Coronavirus. Now they have an excuse to print trillions, and an excuse for why the economy is shit. They can just blame Coronavirus instead of taking the blame for their shit monetary and fiscal policies that actually led to this debt bubble shitshow.

>> No.18888742

>>18888715
No

>> No.18889010

>>18888661
umm sweety, we have a ton of data, we have 250k deaths worldwide to look at
>kill 3/4s of the planet
absolutely pathetic, all the so called "experts" said that shit and we would have millions dead by now
in truth we have a recovery rate of like 90%+

in time the economy damage will be 10x worse than the less than seasonal flu deaths we're seeing now
the supply chains for our food are being disrupted and it will lead to huge shortages down the line

>> No.18889046

>>18888742
then follow your own logic and shut the fuck up

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>>18888360
b-but QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

>> No.18889154

>>18888729
This. Every time i tell someone why i think this anon's statement is the truth I get the feeling i just short circuited their brain, which confirms my certainty in the statement since if i can see how stupid the average person is, the govt. definitely can as well.

>> No.18889170

>>18886995
I know someone, 34, fit, no comorbidities, sick with covid for 7 weeks plus. Got admitted to hospital with heart clot days ago.

>> No.18889373

>>18889010
good god, do i really have to spoon feed you this blatantly?
We fucking obviously do NOT have a good understanding of it - thius all the confusion around why were getting false negatives in tests and people are testing positive 6 weeks later, and we dont know how reinfection works AND we dont know why healthy people are dropping dead AND we dont know anything about long term reactions AND we dont actually know how many deaths should be attributed to Covid and which shouldnt Ala them not counting the major uptick in strokes, heart attacks, etc

>kills 3/4ths
i said NEXT time, cleetus, you illiterate goofball.

i fully understand the economic damage argument.
but you saying dumb as fuck conservative facebook lines such as
>less than seasonal flu
is nothing short of you being a stupid pussy who is burying his head just so his side can be right.

You need to leave the trump shit behind if you want to look like you're not a plainly stupid person who is to be ignored lil nigga.
The guy isnt your brother or your uncle, stop defending the words of the most inaccurate dishonest politician in our history with your life

>> No.18889405

>>18888729
>>18889154
There is truth here as well lads, but it doesnt mean both things cant exist independently of eachother.

>> No.18889437

>>18889170
>7 weeks
That is NOT good.

>> No.18889706

>>18889170
Wew

>> No.18889785

>>18889373
healthy people aren't dropping dead
99% of the dead are boomers with multiple conditions
>imagine being this triggered
your post said nothing else except msm memes, boring dude.
>>18889170
heart attacks are on the rise for people in their 30's
pro-tip it's diet, specifically how the body struggles to manage constant carb inflows
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1afyKN18S0
this video investigates animals feasting on carbs (fruit) to bulk up before hibernation
we are doing the same without hibernating
ulric acid forms crystals in the blood which causes heart attacks

if you're young and get corona you should consider lifestyle and diet changes

>> No.18889906

>>18886995
This. Nothingburgers need to look at total deaths recorded in heavily hit areas versus the past five years. New York looks like a hockey stick, they have run out of places to stack corpses.

>> No.18889986

>>18889785
They weren't testing young people dropping dead of strokes before. Now they look back and see this massive surge and have evidence of massive COVID clots in people's blood. Some neighborhoods in Queens had 400% more heart attacks and strokes than at any time in the past years.

If Flu deaths were counted like Covid, where it had to be probable instead of a model, the biggest death count in the 2010s for the US would be 15,400 in a year. We hit $70k in 7 weeks.

>> No.18890132

>>18887312
God why bring in politics?
Most people are retarded. Trump is just as dumb as the Macrons, Merkels, Obamas, Bushes and Bidens of the world.

Fucking holier than thou shit attitude of pedophile democrat voters.

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>>18886737

>> No.18890310

>>18889986
flu doesn't last a year, it's seasonal oct-may and it peaks in the same way with most deaths occurring in the same 1-2 month period and drops off
between 8000 and 25000 die in italy each flu season, which makes it a little higher than normal
we also never had all this panic meme with it, someone is manipulating us

>> No.18890407

>>18890132
>trump is as dumb as
No dude. Stop.
Im not even a fucking liberal, and im sure as fuck not a democrat. But people need to Stop allowing aggressive anti intellectualism become common place 0 the claim false equivalency when its brought up.

the plain and obvious fact is that if Trump, Obama, and even Senile as Joe Biden all took a competence and knowledge test, that Obama would get a 96, Joe would get an 82, and Trump would get a 7.
Why?
Because Trump doesnt read, study, listen, or think.
His own cabinet cabinet called him an "idiot" "moron" "fucking idiot" with "the understanding of a 4th grader"
who "will not read daily intelligence briefings unless we put his name in every sentence" and "has to be explained the basics of issues - yet stops his advisors mid sentance to pretend he already knows as to not look stupid"

You can claim to be unbiased and not a "sheep" and bla bla bla all you want - you can even call evryhting i said fake news..
but NO ONE can deny that every one of the last 600 times trump got on staged and talked he has demonstrated less than a surface level understanding of any of the complex issues hes spoken on.

The bottom line is we all need to put real actual patriotism over "positive feelings" trump gives people. that is the definition of a cult of personality.

>> No.18890730

>>18887941

we all know you're a muslim btw

>> No.18890766

>>18890407
Exellect shit here

https://youtu.be/B-HDsmJbm_E

https://youtu.be/pAkyBS8uwPQ

>> No.18890802

>>18890730
yeah bud, because i dont piss my panties by design every time fox news tells me to, or because im not drop dead retarded that makes me a share blue muslim tranny

trump supporters are the worst kind of pussies.

>>18890766
seen them both, both top tier as always from maher.

>> No.18890819

When things open back up I hope the death rates go through the roof to silence the dumb fucks.

>> No.18890830

>>18890819
Projections are already flying up again in the US

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>>18890830
>projections

>> No.18891353

>>18888109

Loads of ppl in the UK are enjoying it, it is pathetic and i've worked out who. there are two types:

Lazy fucks who love not working, sitting at home drinking beer watching TV and pretending they are achieving something with a lame mantra like flatten the curve or muh NHS dave, or "im a nurse and its shocking! save NHS" if women.
they are getting paid to be at home and are ambition-less losers so they love it, but are largely ignorant to how the economic despair following will fuck them if they dont ease lockdown.

and then people with natural neet tendency who love sitting at home playing video games all day and again, are ignorant to the bigger picture of how its going to effect them later. Losers again.

They think the dole money will never run out and have no ambition so its ideal lifestyle for them.

>> No.18891420

>>18889373

over 50% of cases who admitted to hospital, let alone DIE are from care homes.

Please, by all means explain to me how this data i just presented to you shows all this paranoid shit you keep crying about

>> No.18892005

>>18889986
>We hit $70k in 7 weeks.

What a dumb doomer nigger. 7 weeks since they started keeping count of infections. This thing has been circulating since November at the very least.

>> No.18892107

>>18886995

Kids getting some weird type of vasculitis too. We've only had the resp and GI stuff, but friends in other nearby hospitals have had 2 episodes of the paediatric vasculitis.

Also sorry to hear about your friend anon. There's something going on with the vascular system in the young. Don't know what it is desu. There's been nothing showing up on coag or any other bloods apart from standard inflam/ infxn stuff

I've currently starteda (small) clinical trial using camostat mesylate in early mildly symptomatic patients. Good results so far, but our cohort is too small. I dont know the cause of the vascular stuff, and it has me slightly on edge as I've been having slight heart palps and shortness of breath as well as dizziness recently. I'm 29 and a registrar level doctor.

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>>18886995
>Non retarded normy take
Liar

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>>18887941
>terrified of the 75y/o average age death flu
>calls others pussies

>> No.18894052

>>18893385
In fairness a majority of conservatives voters and all trump supporters are as plain as pussies as there is.
And i hate leftist.

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>DUUUUUUUUUUUHHHH THERE'S ONLY LIKE 500000 DEATHS WHY DID WE DO A LOCKDOWN THATS NOTHING
have you retards maybe considered that like.. this means the lockdown worked? did you consider that maybe if the virus was totally unbound, hopping between thousands of people at bars, concerts, sports events, etc. that the death toll could be in the millions??

>> No.18894520

>>18890766
>>18890407

Your opinion is just regurgitated liberal talking head propaganda. Here's a hint if your information comes from tv shows that use soundbites and laughing tapes intermittent with political commentary then you're being brainwashed by propaganda. That is not the news, that is literal propaganda tv. All of this. The daily show, maher, jimmy kimmel, Steven Colbert, Seth Meyers, John Oliver. PROPAGANDA SHOWS. They arent the news and they arent thus held accountable as if they were the news but they are there to make sure you think as they want you to.

Excellent shit?
>https://youtu.be/B-HDsmJbm_E
Starts out with a clip claiming Trump mocked a disabled person. Lie #135976
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsaB3ynIZH4
Then it goes on acting as if politifact is unbiased and say they checked that trump lies 3 times as often as Hillary. OK.

>https://youtu.be/pAkyBS8uwPQ
Trump is a fascist and an embarrassment. Oh, good argument. A cabinet of rich straight white men. Oh no the horror!
"Would anyone have to wonder if she was Putin's bitch?"
Uh obongo was his bitch so... yeah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHmyKksPois

Maher has always held a grudge against trump.
See this movie out of the 80's, where he kill Trump in 'Pizza Man': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rFvZutXbcM
Weird guy this Bill Maher...

>> No.18894562

I got one for you:
So far, in my state, more than 35% of the unemployment claims that have been evaluated were falsified by people who just want free shit.
>~280k total claims
>~80k processed so far
>~30k not eligible because they're STILL EMPLOYED

Should also say that people in my state are willing to waste 4 hours sitting in their car, in lines for a free bag of Food-Bank charity groceries worth about 10$.

>> No.18894681

>>18894520
Lmao holy shit you guys sincerely believe you're smarter than average people.
You guys are basically hopelessly eternally plainly stupid people.

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>>18887941
>Covfefe-19 is real
Kys

>> No.18894739

>>18894681
you have to go back

>> No.18894742

>>18886737
>Every african immigrant/second gen i know is polite, dress well and act civilized
>Every black guy in America is a thuggy thug druggy who'll shoot you unless John dela Mixature does it first
What cause this? African negroes are family oriented, spiritual and content most of the them. But an american negro will rob you at sight. And white americans will just kill you for some assumed breach of their right.
Can we just block USA from the world?

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>>18894681
>you guys sincerely believe you're smarter than average people.

>> No.18895326

>>18894407

>sweden
>japan
>korea

clearly it was not necessary. none of those places locked down, and most of them are actually doing better relatively.

>> No.18895357

/biz/ - Business & Finance

>> No.18895789

>>18888729
/thread