/biz/ - Business & Finance

Press D to dab on his grave

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>>18872450
I don't respect women or cunny bros, and I don't see black people as human.

Buy DAL, SAVE, LUV
Sell UAL

What other natural gas stocks should I get or look into?

OKE, USAC, CHK, KMI?

Also RTX bros are we ready for lift off thursday?

Buy GOLD

How do we feel about Disney tomorrow?

buy ctso

>>18872513
>Buy DAL, SAVE, LUV
Unequovically, impossibly, resoundingly based
Fuck Worren Blompfet that fucking swiss cheese-brained boomer retard

>>18872512
based cringe based

>Hundreds of thousands going to die now that we're reopening everything so soon
>millions will be infected
>major corporations filing for bankruptcy every day
>more unemployed than the great depression (only took a month vs 36 months depression)
>food will become a rarity soon
>normies already killing each other over wearing a mask
>The USA will literally become S.T.A.L.K.E.R in 2 weeks

>its up
what in the jesus fuck is going on

Buying MVIS tomorrow. Yes or no

I’m holding a fuckbunch of TVIX and SQQQ from this morning what the fuck do I do guys

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Literal retards post here.

>>18872516
If the Fed ever decides to directly buy equities or implements negative interest rates I am selling what little I have in the market and going all in on gold with some btc

/smg/ doesn't like trump, right?

>>18872533
Win stupid prizes.

>>18872556
Boomvestors do. Honestly, he doesn't really mean anything for the market. I doubt he even understands it.
The only market signals are the Fed and (for now) state governors.

Why aren't there any good ETF's?

>Hundreds of thousands going to die now that we're reopening everything so soon
>millions will be infected
>major corporations filing for bankruptcy every day
>more unemployed than the great depression (only took a month vs 36 months depression)
>food will become a rarity soon
>normies already killing each other over wearing a mask
>The USA will literally become S.T.A.L.K.E.R in 2 weeks

>its up
what in the jesus fuck is going on

>>18872556
He's ok
His sycophants are insufferable and I hope he loses just to watch them have a meltdown

>>18872556
broadly no

>>18872533
I'm setting a 10% stop on SQQQ at which time the market will dump 30%. So 11%?

>>18872531
you're forgetting anon >nothing ever happens

coronavirus will just be a pop culture meme and things will be business as usual

>>18872556

Currently holding MARK, this bad boy is going to the moon tomorrow.
Might buy back in MVIS depending on pa

>>18872568
Trump has a bachelor's in economics, he knows exactly what he's doing, hes a neoclassical type of economics guy who likes low interest rates and fast economic expansion, he's lucky that coronavirus popped his economy before something else did.

>>18872570
What are you looking for?

>>18872533
never hold tvix overnight

>>18872610
>Trump has a bachelor's in economics
So he has no idea what he's doing

>>18872450
>If only you knew how bad it really is.

Reddit Edition

>>18872556
I like a lot of his actions, pushing against China, tariffs, etc. But none of that is actually him, and I hate him representing us on the world stage.

>>18872590
>government orders 100k body bags
ehehe nothing burger

>>18872556
He's awesome. People with 0 experience in business or investing hate him. otherwise they would have made bank in 2017

>>18872621
Trump increased spending, lowered interest rates and lowered taxes, that's mainstream economics 101

Has anyone bought at open via Robin Hood before?

How likely am I to get fucked compared to today's closing price?

>>18872568
I know he doesn't. I mean just in general, other boards are full of trolls and retards that just keep baiting but this general seems to be full of practical, reasonably smart people who care more about their stocks than muh make america great again.

>>18872610
>Trump has a bachelor's in economics, he knows exactly what he's doing, hes a neoclassical type of economics guy who likes low interest rates and fast economic expansion
Which doesn't mesh with his fascination with strong/weak dollars or tariffs.
>he's lucky that coronavirus popped his economy before something else did.
The real bubble we have been in is from the start of QE in the 90s with memespan. All that has happened since then is inflating of new bubbles. Every crisis will require ever more dramatic QE measures.
Central banks are crooks that perpetuate income inequality by pumping wealth into equity at almost any price and shield themselves from harm by being a source of easy credit when times get tough.

>>18872662
depends on what you buy probably

>>18872574
>Mortal veil tearing as the final seals between the living realm and the primal one's prison are shattered

Bullish as fuck. Iron hands.

>>18872610
My problem with him that he is so unlikable and borderline retarded unless some people think he is only pretending.

>>18872556
I like him. I agree with him on most things and he has good intuition. I'd be disappointed if he lost things would be a lot less interesting.

>>18872682

MVIS

>>18872518
Fuck maus, acquire puts

bought the FRO top last monday and I'm 20% down

>>18872518
Hoping it dips so I can buy some shares.

>>18872662
the way that you ask that question makes me suspect that you don't really know what you're talking about

>>18872681
He wanted to weaken the dollar so foreigners can buy more American goods. Make more money flow into America.

>>18872532
Yes. Stack margin on it, and ride it up to $8/share

>>18872709

put in a buy order after hours, expecting it to go through in the morning. how hard is that to understand?

>>18872583
Yes, tranny discord faggots and so y-guzzling excuses for men with Warren stickers on their car are much more intelligent and tolerable.

>>18872693
Those of you who like him don't you think he divided America as this society has never been so divided and hateful towards each other?

bobos... +.76%......

>>18872684
I'm going primal now to save time

>>18872718
a market order or a limit order
why do you think that today's closing price might effect anything when it comes to buying at open?

What's up with the penny stocks as a concept? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. Why do people buy them at all?

>>18872703
Hang in there. Even you will make a couple of bucks.

>>18872556
Trump is unequivocally THE most based politician we have ever and will ever have

yes, this is a real tweet

Any Seattlefags on here? I'm thinking of moving there from DC. Just trying to find a job there first.

>>18872723
They're foreigners here same as you
I'd stick the lefty/pol/ niggers in the gas chamber right next to you

>>18872725
As evidenced by Pew polling, that unironically started during the Bush and Obama time periods (it accelerated in the later).

>>18872614
Any time I look for an ETF it's just trash. High fees, very few pure plays, and hold some weird shit like bonds and options.

>>18872748
You can make fast money daytrading them but it's a dangerous fucking way to live.

WHY IS IT GREEN

>>18872662

>>18872748
poor people (see: this thread) want to get rich quick so they dump what little money they have into garbage hoping they can multiply their money

>>18872742

market order.

volatility? demand? it closed at 1.46 and I don't want to wake up to my order going through at 1.75

>>18872748
Just watch wolf of wall street for al the info you need on penny stocks.

>>18872750
I understand it is funny but. Come on now you sound like /pol/

>>18872748
penny stocks are the easiest way to get rich overnight, even more so than cryptoshit.

>>18872710
I am not arguing about the idea of a strong/weak currency its just decidedly a non-neoclassical topic.

>>18872556
Like? No. Prefer to Hillary or Biden? Absolutely

>>18872748
literally the "cryrocurrency" in stock form bought by the same prepubescent retards spamming link and other retarded make-believe memecoins

>>18872696
buy high sell low

>>18872686
>he is only pretending
He's doing the same schitck Bush did, however he goes overboard with it sometimes.

>>18872756
why move to a city
this is the new working from home future, you don't have to live in a big city anymore. The only people left in big cities will be the people who actually like living in big cities (metropolitan types, some good, some bad), and the people who can't afford to move out (section 8 , renters)
eastern Washington awaits you, all of rural America awaits you with cheap housing, and you want to move to Seattle?

>>18872790
you never know what will happen :D
if you place a market order at open on a penny stock pump and dump, you probably don't know what you're doing.
you will learn a valuable lesson.

>>18872802
Why is that?

>>18872809
>haha yeah i voted for the woman that said we would enforce a no fly zone over Syria.

>>18872531
In the end the market is about making money its in nobody's best interest for it to tank

Does anyone have a way to view booking transaction histories on bonds? I switched out of E-Trade and now I can't find anywhere to do this online without stupid subscription fees on shady websites.

>>18872790
Then don’t set a market order doofus. Closing price and opening price the next day are only marginally related, especially in a stock like that. It could easily open up at $2/share or $.75/share just as easily

>>18872725
all it took was finding one of your other posts to realize how fucking retarded you are IRL. LMFAO @ you thinking for one second Trump is to blame for this country's division. turn off CNN you absolute moron

>>18872796

>>18872835
we should have enforced a no-fly zone over the Pacific and Atlantic oceans...

>>18872826
>Seattle?
Talk radio.

>>18872748
Low volume allows for manipulation.
A microcosm of a LOT of the market at the moment.

Boomers just won't let it fall.

>>18872725
Trump is the only pro-business candidate, yet here you are spamming off topic political bullshit, and you wonder why people hate you...

>>18872874
>A microcosm for the entire market at the moment.
Fixed that for you.

>>18872590
yes thats the point. no one wants to social distance no one wants to wear a mask and wagie cucks are committing suicide over not being a slave. the government is pushing the herding immunity meme now. because no one wants to listen but when everything like hospitals are full and food is gone everything will be back to square one one worse

>>18872703
>not setting a 7.5% stop loss

NGMI

>>18872531
Turns out virus is a nothing burger and none of that shit will happen. Who knew?

>>18872882
you have to capitulate and buy in, then we can have it crash and buy cheapies

>>18872906
Mitchell, you are due for surgery!

>>18872725
American Colleges and Universities are responsible for that. Look up the statistics about political affiliation before and after college/uni. And before you say "well it's because they become educated!", also look up how as one progresses through school, they become LESS accurate about what conservatives think in terms of political views. I don't think I even have to mention the absolute garbage being taught in the very soft social sciences and humanities.

Just look back at the 50's. Conservatives were absolutely more conservative then than they are now, and then look at liberals. Socially, they are far far beyond what any liberal in the 50's would have found acceptable.

>>18872790
>market order
Prices can gap up or down from previous day's close. Don't market order at open unless you're certain the stock will pump that day lest you wind up overpaying for a gap up that doesn't hold. Otherwise just set a limit order.

>>18872531
Oregon lockdown extended to fucking JULY

>>18872748
Gambling. You put it all on red and hope its working. Usually biomemes where a single drug approval can make a company boom or fail.

If you ever want to be discouraged to trade pennies then go on stocktwits. ONTX, SNSS, etc.
Just desperate people telling each other how it will go up from 10 Cents to 10$ in just a week. Or boomers doing smoothbrain TA on some flopping stock, where 24.3 is a support and 27.3 a resistance.
The worst is seeing people saying what they will do once their money goes up a 1000%. Retire and stuff.

>>18872531
P R I C E D
I N

you think that 3 trillion dollars just went up in smoke? hmmm small brain? do ya?

>>18872936
This just in. 100% of liberals are melodramatic women.

>>18872925
I'm surprised to hear it's even so late, my HS especially was filled with plenty of leftist propaganda.

how many retards would still protest to open up if they had to sign a waiver that gave up eligibility for hospital treatment for themselves and their immediate family members if they got corona'd?

>>18872909
Too scary for me now, I'm sitting on the sidelines.

any old strategies that still work?
darvas boxes seem based.

>>18872936
>living in a liberal shithole

Should I buy 5k dollars of O?

>>18872978
They'd protest for their right to be stupid

PE - divvies collected.
HTGC - divvies collected.
ARCC - tomorrow morning.

about to buy 4k worth of DIS hopefully its a short drop with a sudden stop .

>>18872936
That wont last. I give it til mid May At Best before people take to the streets. Especially once everybody else gets going.

>>18872936
You're retarded if you don't want to get sick then you can stay in your cuck closet

>>18872978
Isnt that basically already the case with unemployed retards in the US?

>>18872973
Like what? Universal health care?

>>18872662
This has 0 to do with robinhood, and this crazy thing the kids are talking about nowadays called afterhours and premarket trading. Robinhood doesn't set the prices you fucking sperg.

>>18872978
The government cant keep you safe you facist shitstain.

>>18872518
Long Disney, will buy more if it dips. Never bet against the mouse, it’s too powerful

>>18872973
I was about to post the same thing
the propaganda starts a long time before university

>>18872988
I'm not selling out, but I'm not buying any new stocks until I see an opportunity that takes my breath away.
I'm definitely not seeing anything like that right now
I need people like you to FOMO in so that they dump the markets
pls anon pls
I need True Cheapies, capital T Truth Cheapies, not fake cheapies

>>18872978
Why does that even make sense to you? I’d sign it, and then just as a big fuck you I’d go visit every politician in the state that had anything to do with that retarded idea and coof on them.

>>18872518
Never bet against the mouse

>>18872936
There is barely any corona in Oregon.
>27 deaths per 1M pop
10x less than the average in the US

>>18873044
how much pain does a bobo need to endure.

>buy puts
>“A significant breakthrough has been achieved in finding an antidote to the Corona virus” - Joint Statement By Israeli Ministry Of Defense, Israel Institute For Biological Research
fuck my life

>>18873019
Don’t buy at the ask. Hold out for the lowest price you can. Need my puts to print

>>18873029
I'll take open borders for $100 Alex

>>18873044
Eh, I'm holding out. If the market takes a huge shit I'll buy some, but if it doesn't I'll invest more in my business which is probably better returns anyways.

>>18873017
>ARCC
>HTGC

Blackpill me on these stocks, anon.

Every time the death cross approaches you can guarantee a massive green dildo to buy time. Big boys are still pulling money out of the system.

>>18872978
There is no difference in infection rates for states that enforced lockdowns and those that didn't.

Hell, the WHO is praising Sweden, whose constitution prevented them from enforcing it.

Pearl clutching fear mongers like you will be joked about in 3 years.

>>18872531
>watching CNN

>>18873093
>Every time the death cross approaches you can guarantee a massive green dildo to buy time
just stop it already

>>18873021
Anon... it’s May already

so i just started stock trading within the past week, however the time i usually wake up at is at around 1 PM EST because i prefer staying up until like 5 am. how bad is this sleep schedule for day trading/stock trading?

>>18873078
im 100% guaranteed to make money .. Disney is yuge. hope you didnt short it too much i sold at the top before this minor fall

>>18873029
Well 1. Diversity out of the ass. It's the best, and that's the only reason America is great, because we're so diverse.
2. Education. If you don't get at least a bachelor's degree, you're a piece of shit and doomed to failure. Pushing kids into the more intensive propaganda, not to mention government reliance, which is #3
3. Big government good, bigger government better!
4. Just tons of little things. My favorite example, I had to learn about slavery every single year from at the very earliest 5th grade until my senior year. Not one single time during any of those years was it even mentioned a single time that white people were also slaves in the U.S., but there's tons of little stuff like that.

>>18873121
99% of the action is in pre-market, first 10 minutes, last 10 minutes, and ~10 minutes in after market.
Everything else is pure noise.

what would a biz meetup look like lads

>>18873121
awful, you miss out on the most volatile hour of trading stocks (the first hour)

switch your sleeping pattern to non degeneracy

>>18873091
Check for yourself.

i'm going to lose over ten thousand overnight

>>18873141
Nah, I’m holding $100 puts just banking on their earning being shit. I’m pretty confident I’ll hit my mark

>>18873156
>that's the only reason America is great, because we're so diverse.

>stock is at 50
>put in buy order limit at 51
Does that mean it will buy at the lowest price up to 51?

>>18872925
I'll grant the decline of conservatism, but I would argue that 'liberals' in the 60's and 70's were far more liberal or at least more extreme. Left-wing militant extremist groups like FALN, SDS, Panthers were numerous. And they didn't just subvert values and forcefully install their own everywhere they could - they openly killed and bombed as their MO.

>>18873121
>"so i just started stock trading within the past week"
>plans on day trading
pffttthahahaha should we tell him boys?

>>18873009
The climate is too good. I can’t live anywhere else.

>>18873102
I literally never even considered any TA except basic support and resistance levels.
Company good, I buy.
Stock too high, I dont buy.

It has never failed me. Chances are I make more money than most day traders.

Imagine being a retarded SPY put buyer after March 23rd.

>>18872556
no i just voted him in because i like to see manchildren seethe

>>18873121
Once you start the trading life, your body's internal clock adjusts for pre-market/open
It's great

Where are the tanker chads?

>>18873186
Yes
Same in reverse with a sell order. The limit is just a limit.

First order ever? Good luck, fren

>>18873121
make sure you have less than $25,000 in your account to be safe. I then like to warm up but doing 4 back-to-back day trades to get a feel for how quick my trades go through and how the stock program is responding to my input

>>18873186
Yes. That’s what the “limit” means

>>18873198
>Stock too high, I dont buy
whole market seems too high and swings with co movement. this shit's a bitch.

>>18873216
/tsg/

>>18873160

The underlying of my call option has moved a lot after hours, but my option position's don't reflect what the price would be. How can I calculate what the p/l will be at market open?

>>18873245
Thanks I ignored the anime pic

>>18873214
GOD this series pissed me off. What a strong start, only to piss it away mid-season and become like every other cliche romcom

Serious question: At this moment in time, is there anything more Reddit than being a media-ingesting midwit who truly believes COVID-19 is some terrifying killer virus, and is bearish about the market because they think the market OWES it to them to go down due to all the panic-porn they've been swallowing nonstop since the beginning of March?

It's a phenomenon. People are allowing their media consumption and political opinions to dictate their views on the market. They're literally losing money due to the news/media/social media they are choosing to believe and ignore. Don't mean to go /pol/ on the thread but this is a definite overlap I've been seeing lately in these threads: politics, virus view, market belief.

>>18873214
I usually get up to pee around two hours after open. Check market to see if I need to address anything. Go back to bed, get up 30 minutes before close. That is my average trading day. Being awake during all of market hours would make no difference. I'd probably make worse trades if I did that.

>>18873121
>>18873214
>Want to sell MSFT contracts at market open
>Oversleep
>Stock rose 1.5%
>Get 400$/contract instead of 250$
Hehe. Thanks body.

>how bad is this sleep schedule for day trading/stock trading?
Depends on your style of trading
Long term? Lmao who cares
Swing? You should be awake but its not a problem if you arent. Sometimes its important though, like before ER and so on.
Day trading? Your choice. But you dont make money while you sleep.

Most important times are the 30mins after open and before close anyways.

>>18872583
Sorry Bernie lost my guy. No refunds. Thanks for supporting Biden and the establishment though

>>18873216
here

>>18873270
haha yeah the teaming up of certain friends and fcking cliches was fucking retarded and annoying, I finished it though
But yeh every episode after the first couple was rage inducing

Aaaand boom

Just like that, bobos are extinct

Pretty bullish start to the week eh lads ?

>>18873166
How did you fuck up so badly?

Hey I'm a retarded faggot who didn't buy MVIS Friday. Even worse, I just seethed and coped all day while it went up. Now I'm seething and coping watching it in after hours, and I'll probably seethe and cope so much at open tomorrow that I'll forget to dilate. Muh TVIX.

>>18873310
if you arnt riding these waves you aint livin

>>18873187
The "liberals" of the college campuses of the 60s and 70s were outright communists, the liberals like JFK were far more conservative than any lukewarm republican in office right now.

Energy bros what are some nice dividend and or growth stocks for gains? Looking for anything in natural gas, oil, green energy, nuclear.

Got OKE

>>18873239
I trust the US gouvernment and Papa Powell now.

>>18872107
You're right. I have a stack of stocks and I haven't sold anything. I've just been holding on and waiting for dividends to roll in. But then again, there's not much there to earn. I think my biggest earner has made me, what...a couple bucks? I should just sell and save up for one of those big earners I can hold onto for a while. Right? I dunno.

>>18873282
>is there anything more Reddit than being a media-ingesting midwit who truly believes COVID-19 is some terrifying killer virus, and is bearish about the market because they think the market OWES it to them to go down due to all the panic-porn
no, but the debt bubble we're in should bust and younger people are getting raped by it's slow unwinding. boomers don't have to face the music at the expense of the future. Anyone talking virus and shutdown that's not talking about oil consumption or FED action to prevent shock related default is a retard or /pol/nogging

>>18873293
>Sometimes its important though, like before ER and so on.
If company is doing a morning earnings release I will be awake for open after that, briefly, to see if anything stupid happens. If i'm worried about the reaction to earnings I will just sell half or all of my position before earnings day.

>>18873327
Pembina Pipeline on TSX (PPL.TO)

Only option that's green for me right now is fucking PINS.

>>18873327
ED, XEL, DUK

>>18873259
i used to use some online option calculators. it's been a while though. back when first time retail traders proceeded straight to buying tons of AAPL calls on the advise of numerous anonymous experts.

>>18873160
You mean /smg/ meet-up? Because biz meet-up will be minimum wage crypto wagies

>>18873339
>TSX
Canada? Isn't castro's bastard killing the canadian oil indudstry?

>>18873282
The most Reddit thing was always to be worried about the virus and not the ease with which the Fed decided to fuck the next few decades

>>18873282
It’s not that simple, anon. I don’t fear this virus one bit, but I’m bearish about the market because Reddit tier retards make up the majority of American government and urban areas. Just because I would gladly go back to living my normal life doesn’t mean shit about people in general and their spending habits.

Besides qqq, what are solid etf's to invest in for a 10 year type plan?

>>18873290
>>18873293
I'm in theta gang cause of work, so I just yolo cash covered puts
NCLH has been great for me, decided to sell some 11$ AAL puts after NCLH exploded too high for me and well you know how that story went lmao

>>18873335
I like to watch the rollercoaster though. Its part of the fun to see if the algos decide its good or not and sperg out.

Actually I would love to know how algos decide it. What numbers they think are the most important.

>>18873329
Start writing options on your divvy stocks to spice things up.

>>18873382
SPXL and SOXL provided we are out of crab territory

>>18873339
Hullo fellow leaf. You may be interested to know I just entered a long on CCL.B today. They are consumer packaging company. Also still long on DOO and will be for a while I think. P/E is still under $10, P/B ratio is a ridiculous -$5 and change.

Calls on DHT?

>>18873385

>>18873382
NOBL

>>18873362
Yes

MVISoilders report in!

>>18873385
Im in theta gang because its profitable desu

My mistake today was to sell some ATM options I thought will will crab. Now its mooning.
But moneys money. Praised be Theta, Praised be Vega.

I mean, it's be weird if there wasnt a second crash right?
One giant drop in a few days and then volatile crabbing isnt a normal market move, is it?

>>18873396
Start writing options? Like...just consider some options for a long-term investment? Is it a bad idea to invest in a company you personally like? Just for the sake of not getting attached?

>>18872556
He's okay
I will like Trump a lot more if we invade Venezuela

>>18873362
I bought some PPL stocks around the time oil went to 0. They trade as PBE on NYSE but I don't pay attention to how it performs there or what the yield is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEhdGnRzcTQ

>>18873407
disregard the dollar signs on those ratios pls. They don't below. The P/B on DOO as of close today is -5.39.

>>18873440
No. Google “stock options” and learn

>>18873440
No I mean sell covered calls on stock you hold

>>18873440
>Like...just consider some options for a long-term investment?
Google "covered call" or watch some YT videos on it.
Its a baby tier investing strategy, but it works.
Especially if you hodl.

Anyone on here ever get to write naked calls? Just wanna know how it feels.

>>18873494
Need to rename it The Training Wheel Strategy tbqh.

>>18873510
>>18873494
Writing covered calls is a good place for someone who has very little understanding to start. It can teach you a lot about the greeks and what it actually looks like in action, and there's not really any downside besides potential missed profits if the stock goes to space.

>>18873496
Like this guy

>>18873071
all of it

>>18873282
Genuinely surprised at some of the people who I regarded as intelligent, in a complete panic about the virus. My friend says he won't go outside other than for groceries until those medical personal associated with the government say it's ok. I asked him "So lets say you want to go to a bbq tomorrow, but you won't, because of covid. Now imagine if tomorrow, Fauci comes on TV and says the lockdown is over and it's fine to get into small groups again. What has fundamentally changed from tomorrow, other than 1 man saying "ok, you can go?"". Response? "Fauci is one of the top experts, I trust what he says".

I think the problem with these people is a complete deferring to those they perceive as an authority figure, rather than having to use their own brains.

>>18872978
I'm an insane happening faggot from when /pol/ wasn't r/_donald 2.0. I want the government to open up. The faster these asshole nurses and doctors die, the faster this system can collapse.

>>18873526
I don’t disagree. I still do it, its stock market coupon clipping, especially on some low volatility dividend stock.

>>18873282
That's why so many fags on r/wsb got burned. they believe all the shit they see on the liberal news

>>18873282
just wait until the next spectacle comes around, and everyone will just shift focus and forget that any of this ever happened

>>18873095
Sweden versus Finland dumbshit.
Sweden basically admitted they fucked up.

>Ford bonds maturing in a year are at a premium
>bonds maturing at 5+ years are a fire sale
Forget stocks. You get the real investor sentiment in bonds. Literally salivating at short term GIBBS but have no faith in Ford when that money tap ends

>>18873595
Why? Sweden is showing that the cases aren't enough to overwhelm the hospitals, which was the ENTIRE POINT of lockdown.

>>18873545
>a complete deferring to those they perceive as an authority figure, rather than having to use their own brains.
science is the new religion. I think it's even more senseless than you are describing. It's not convenience nor deferral for a virtuous nor selfish reason. The reason doesn't exist. Null. N/A. Void.

>>18873604
How do bonds work and are they a boomer scam?
Can I get it through my broker (TD Ameritrade)?

>>18873545
Seriously I'm just baffled at how the entire country is just sucking the government's dick. It's like you said, people I know to be rational intelligent people even when pusued just act like I'm crazy and say dude bro you have to!!! At some point in my life I realized how full of shit people are, and just wing it every day.

>>18873604
what kind of numbers are you seeing on those old-man bonds?

>>18873494
nice pits, nice ID

>>18873095
>the WHO is praising Sweden
*was, before their death rate spiked because they're retards

>>18873526
Pretty much
>>18873566
I will be honest and say I never went beyond that. I tried more theta strategies but at the end my specialty is finding good stocks ans wheeling them or doing cc. I also never have to worry because the share itself is there as my security back up in case of general tits uppery.
I know, understand and can trade spreads, but not as well as the two basic bitches.

Maybe Im retarded or just that good and lucky at one single strategy. Or both.

>>18872531
I remember when this happened in the year 2000. It was called Y2K, and it destroyed the economy.

>>18873619
>ried more theta strategies but at the end my specialty is finding good stocks ans wheeling them or doing cc. I also never have to worry because the share itself is there as my security back up in case of general tits uppery.

It's even more baffling when you see them trust the same experts who told them in jan/feb that it was nothing to worry about.

>>18873651
clearly the wrong quote, my bad.

>>18873666
Just try again

>>18873527
haha, totally forgot about him

>>18873494
So uh, is it like if I bought 100 shares(long XX), but I sell 1 share(short XX) at the value of those 100 shares? Am I just retarded for not getting this?

>>18873617
>Can I get it through my broker (TD Ameritrade)?
Yes
>How do bonds work and are they a boomer scam?
Smallest unit is $1k. You get that 1k back by some maturity date but in the meantime you get interest on the money you lent. Typically these are rather pathetic compared to gains in the market, especially the absolute dumpster fire that are treasury bonds. Long story short, for a single individual what is more interesting are bonds from companies with junk rating. Typically you can purchase the bond off of other bondholders at less than 1k and still get back 1k from the original issuer provided they survive the maturity rate and can pay you back. I've been scouring the bond markets for companies that might survive their trash financials with easy credit.
They are riskier than a lot of stock plays but you know EXACTLY what your returns will be and some of these would be like 200% in 1-2 years.

>>18873633
Don’t try that bullshit here.

>>18873604
>bonds
Are we living in the 70s?

>>18873689
These are unironically safer plays than airlines for a timeframe of 1 year.

>>18873595
Sweden seems to be doing OK. They have a lot more deaths compared to their neighbors, but a lot less compared to Italy/Spain/France/UK and some other european countries. It is hard to tell which strategy is the best.

>>18873702

What am I looking at here

>>18872748
>Why do people buy them

Alright guys, give me some good ones, I'm bored: https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&timePeriod=4&startYear=1985&firstMonth=1&endYear=2020&lastMonth=12&calendarAligned=true&includeYTD=false&initialAmount=10000&annualOperation=0&annualAdjustment=0&inflationAdjusted=true&annualPercentage=0.0&frequency=4&rebalanceType=1&absoluteDeviation=5.0&relativeDeviation=25.0&showYield=false&reinvestDividends=true&portfolioNames=false&portfolioName1=Portfolio+1&portfolioName2=Portfolio+2&portfolioName3=Portfolio+3&symbol1=NAK&allocation1_1=14.32&symbol2=A&allocation2_1=14.28&symbol3=D&allocation3_1=14.28&symbol4=ASH&allocation4_1=14.28&symbol5=I&allocation5_1=14.28&symbol6=WIT&allocation6_1=14.28&symbol7=H&allocation7_1=14.28

>>18873684
Yes, but most people are retards too. 1 contract gives you the “option” to buy 100 shares(call) or sell 100 shares(put) at whatever strike price the option is for. Without going into too much detail, these are either used to hedge against risk, or for gambling on price movement. It’s good for gambling because you can essentially gain 100 shares worth of profit for a fraction of the price, since you don’t actually have to purchase the 100 shares.

>>18873702
Ok I’m giggling because you’re right.
Well played Sir, well played.

>>18873702
>Caa2
lol that rating means run for your life?

>>18873718
>NOOOOOOOOOOO PUMP AND DUMP YOU CAN'T MAKE MONEY ON THAT REEEEEEEEEEE

>>18873689
Corporate debt and treasuries are a different story.

>>18873070
that's nominally why they're doing it. they dont want to reopen right when corona hits. they closed too early and now theyre stuck waiting

>>18873716
Take the price multiply by 10. That is what you pay to buy that bond from a current bondholder. The maturity date is 6/2021. These bonds, originally issued by Tupperware, are for 1k each.
That means, if Tupperware survives and can pay back those bonds you would get 1000 for every 380-400 dollar bond you purchased (+ some irrelevant but nice interest from the coupon rate). That is a 250% return locked in TODAY.
If Tupperware could not pay back that bond, their stock would almost certainly be already worthless. In liquidation/bankruptcy proceedings bondholders are given dispensation FIRST. So even if not complete it would just need to be more than half the price for you to still make it out okay.

>>18873702
Am I reading that wrong, or does the bond cost $38 and you get back $1,000? Zero experience with bonds.

>>18873687
270 deaths per million. Now compare it with Norway, Finland, any scandis. They dropped the ball, backpedalled hard.

>>18873780
It was supposed to be 38x you fucking sperg.

>>18873702
>restaurants give out free Tupperware if you just wash the plastic out and reuse it


Lmao Tupperware

>>18873684
You have 100 shares and promise to sell these shares at certain fixed strike price. For that you will get cash up front.
Now the price either reaches the strike at the end of the contract, or it doesnt. If it does the shares get sold, if it doesnt you keep the premium and the shares.

Imagine it like betting against your own huge success. In most cases a stock will not explode, you win the bet and keep the money. You cap your upside for money. But that money also lowers your downside. Week after week

My explanation is really the lowest level I can do sleepy at 5am.

>>18873778
Nevermind, you explained it here >>18873769

>>18873791
The fuck are you on about.

>>18873778
No thats right. you literally 2,600% on bonds. it's a super hidden secret that only the hacker known as 4chan knows about.

>>18873731
This is the risk. They have less risk exposure than car rental companies (Hertz), cruise lines (RCL and CCL but they are getting GIBBS), and airlines. If the Fed wants to keep interest rates this stupid low for the forseeable future, there is a chance that Tupperware could rollover the debt.
I mean that's the risk you take with a 250% return in 1 year. But it is no different than airline bagholders. They expect at best similar payoffs but if the ones they are holding go bankrupt they will be entitled to almost nothing as an equity holder.

>>18873791
weren't hospitals supposed to be overrun in March or April?
whatever happened to that?
weren't they piling up bodies in the hallways?

>>18873778
380, it's essentially a high risk high reward bet they'll be able to roll over their debt (with a ass credit rating) before maturity or bankruptcy. This is where Buffet's phone rings.

>>18873718
What happens if I buy 800 shares of this meme tomorrow ?

>>18872556
I do. Letting ISIS terrorize the world was pure evil to me. When Trump started gaining traction, Obama/Hillary suddenly found a quick way to stop them. Poetic justice and thank you (flyover) Americans for electing him. A lot of people are with you even if the media tries to rule our minds and countries.

>>18873769

I dunno man I think this is a crackpot idea man

>>18873778
Its confusing. See >>18873769
Its 380 dollars per (1k) bond. They are being sold by current bondholders at a 60% discount, and for good reason. But its Tupperware that owes whoever holds that bond at maturity 1k.

>>18872556
It doesn't matter who the President is. You see the imagery on the money? That is who is in charge.

>>18873805
How quickly it is intentionally forgotten that the entire premise of the lockdowns was that 1% of the total population would die without draconian government intervention.

>>18873806
Yeah, you got me chief. I forgot to multiply the price by 10 for some unknown fucking reason. Thanks for your helpful insight.

>>18872796
>If you like anything trump has ever said you are pol
>If I call you nasty wrongthink name you are bad man
Jesus.

>>18873684
You have 100 shares

You have the OPTION to sell your shares whenever you want. You are going to sell your OPTION to someone else for a fee. If the option goes over your set strike price, the other guy exercises your option and collects the difference between the actual price and the price you wanted. If it doesn’t go over your strike price, you keep the fee and the option expires worthless.

Are we looking at a 2% or 5% up day tomorrow?

>>18873858
its not even that. a normal person wouldn't ever even think that somehow $38 magically gets turned into $1000.

>>18873899

3, 5 comes Wednesday

>>18873899
100%
the golden bull run of the stock market

>>18873912
You say that but there are people here who bought UAVS.

>>18873819
>weren't hospitals supposed to be overrun in March or April?
in NY they were
the rest of the country shutdown in time. you can debate whether or not it was worth it. maybe the longtime economic devastation will be worse than the pandemic.
but its disingenuous to claim that corona just flatout wasnt dangerous. its got between a 1-3% lethality rate. odds are youre young and healthy, so you dont have to be worried, but youve likely got older relatives you care about. they are real, human sacrifices to easing the shutdown.

>>18873899
%1 then -%1 on Wednesday

>>18872925
Neither of those terms have any philosophical significance. The words 'liberal' and 'conservative' are nowadays a system of control.
Conservative: tells you your credit score is bad
Liberal: tells you your social credit score is bad
Socially liberal and economically conservative: believes in behaving the exact way entrenched elites want economically and socially, and isolating people who don't want to.

I have $2k to invest. Are airlines a good long buy now or should I wait a month? I don't really see why people would fly until holiday season or is right before summer good?

And just like that the S&P will never lose ground to gold again

>>18873840
God?
God is American btw

https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/united-airlines-plans-30-cut-to-management-ranks-from-october-company-memo-2160443

OOHHHHHHHH AIRLINES

>>18873899
I feel like it's a crab, unless the S&P death crosses on shorter time frames actually do something. I don't think they'll let the dow actually break under the 200 weekly, so up. fucking hell. Nasdaq looks crabby.

>>18872510
D

>>18873840
>carrying cash

I live out of my Robinhood account.

>>18872533

>>18872450
Can someone post that bulltrap, despair whatever the fuck graph. I need it for research.

What happened to our polo friend with all the airline stocks?

>>18872556

>>18873984
>United is literally waiting until the date specified by Gibbs to dump employees
lel

>>18872556
Gave us both best stock market ever and best V shaped recovery ever and we may not even get a pullback. I am not sure what would possess someone from disliking Trump but you likely having a gun in your family you can shoot your face with if liking Trump is a big problem.

>>18874022
ties his polos together to form a noose

>>18874018
for you

>>18874042
pretty sad desu

>>18874059

Hello "Return to 'normal'"

>>18874059
lol

>>18873944
Disney’s earnings tomorrow will be so bad they’re gonna drag the entire market down on Wednesday

>>18874059
Thanks, friend.

>>18874082
what time tomorrow are they announced

>>18873824
buy at open with stop loss set to -5% continues to pump, move stop loss up. set up trailing stop loss? how fucking hard is it to make money on a pump and dump? are you new bro?

>>18873995
Can you give a new investor some advice on how to use Robinhood for earning?
I'm a idiot and I thought if you bought shares after hours you would be locked in at that price. But I found out that is not true you are only locked in at that price if the shares loss money or only raise within 3% of the price you thought you were buying into. It seems like the ultimate hustle. If the shares raise 5% or more at opening then RH keeps the shares and refunds your money but if the opening price is negative you get the shares. Its a win win for RH they never need to use there own funds and can only accumulate funds because they bought the stock with your money and can decide whether to keep the shares for profit or dump them on you. Fucking brilliant.

>>18874100
After hours

>>18872725
I believe your pet chimp was responsible for that

>>18874111
Is that for real? I use an adult broker so I’ve never experienced them before. Sounds like a total scam though

>>18874111
what the fuck are you babbling about? all you need to know is if you want to buy for no more than a certain price you decided, set a limit order. it'll fill if market conditions meet your criteria, even in pre market and after hours.

>>18873984
This is why there is a reason to remain on the sidelines until the uncertainty clears. The economic damage is going to come rolling in, and I find it hard to believe the markets can price in the far reaching effects of these types of issues. The virus is nigh inconsequential at this point, so long as we can mitigate and avoid overburdening the health care system.

>>18873728
>>18873803
>>18873888
Thanks anons. I think I kiiinda get it? You're buying a high volume of shares at a relatively low price. Say, one dollar. You set a sale price slightly higher in anticipation of the value of the shares going up, say, two dollars. Then someone buys a share at two dollars once it works its way up to that point. If it doesn't make it up to two dollars, then you technically didn't lose anything. But you could set up a limit sell so if it drops to 95 cents, you're only losing out on 5% of your original investment.
Um...right?

>>18874151
no. completely wrong, missed the concept of options entirely.

>>18874150
>the markets can price in the far reaching effects of these types of issues
they wont and inflation will catch up and then push prices higher. we're not returning to 2012-2016, which is where we probably really need to go.

>>18874151
You should really do your own research on it. There’s a lot more to options than can be explained in one thread, but there are tons of videos and articles online explaining the ins and outs. Make sure you understand before trying to trade them because options are probably the easiest way to lose your ass in the market besides maybe pump n dump penny stocks.

>>18873780
CDC just released a report tonight saying by June we'll be at 3,000 deaths per day, with 200,000 new cases per day.

>>18874151
>>18874179
>>18874190

I just lost it

>>18874073
>>18874079
>>18874087
>dude the DOW will totally drop to like 5000 just look at this meme graph!

>>18874106
Yes I'm new please no bully

>>18872510
F for respect

>>18874191
the same CDC who dropped the coronavirus death rate by 50% because they're fucking retards?

>>18874151
wow, there are people this retarded on biz.

lurk moar faggot

>>18874179
>no.
kinda figured.
>>18874190
Yeah, I checked out a couple videos and some sites going over what it meant, but its just bouncing off me. It's like being in school again. I'm sure I'll get it eventually...maybe.

>>18874191
>3,000 deaths per day
Literally nothing. .001% of the population, and the vast majority of those 3,000 were already about to die of AIDS or cancer anyways. And even if they weren’t, they’re most likely over 80 years old so I don’t care about them anyways. Fuck boomers and fuck jannies.

>>18874079
>the global financial crisis was a bear trap
okay, now this is epic

>>18874211
>I'm so insecure in my financial decisions that i must call memers sped!

>>18873156
Fuck you faggot colleges are expensive day care centers

>>18874250
>dude you are just insecure and my lack of knowledge on financial institutions is irrelevant, just look at this chart totally gonna drop to 1000!!!

>>18872518
Disney is unbelievably cancerous it needs to die

>>18874276
>>18874276
>>18874276
>>18874276
>>18874276
New

>>18873282
You are an idiot. The bears realize the entire market is fake. The corona virus just exposed it. The corona virus didn’t make markets crash the damn govt closing the country did

>>18874229
https://www.schwab.com/active-trader/insights/content/getting-started-options
schwab has a series of three articles on options. read them all, multiple times

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AAPL/options
then look at some real options listing and try to make sense of them.

>>18874022
Why is coke boomer man also polo man?

>>18874286
Thank you

>>18874292
>he doesn’t keep polo shirts and knockoff sports memorabilia in his portfolio
ngmi

>>18874284
It's not even a matter of being a bear. The last year or two represented an end to the current economic/business cycle. The shutdown hastened the events and allowed companies to write off failures as a result of an exogenous event, but we were due for another downturn in the next year or two. The overlapping effects of that and the virus lockdowns are just going to compound the level of uncertainty we'll have for the next few months or more.

>>18873793
>>restaurants give out free Tupperware if you just wash the plastic out and reuse it
What the fuck does this even mean? There are literal retards spewing their retard intellect on /biz/

>>18874488
Most businesses use a different type of plastic container. I forgot the manufacturer but yeah we have retards in here.

Cozy thread
>>18874669
>>18874669
>>18874669

>>18872662
If you buy shares after hours on Robinhood and the value raises 5% or at opening or before then you will get a refund. If you buy shares and they go negative after hours or at opening then you will get your shares at the highest price point between the time you paid and opening. Robinhood is genius they use your money to buy the stocks you choose and if goes up you get a refund and they get the profit amd if it goes down you pay the highest price.

>>18872756
Fucj Seattle it's full of Homeless people and rich people there is no middle class in Kings County. Move to Portland it's like Seattle was 10 years ago. What type of work are looking for?

>>18872510

D

>>18874082
Fundamentals don't matter in this clown market.

biz help what stocks do i buy, just sold 1000 worth of nustar