/biz/ - Business & Finance

>mfw I shorted the top

>+0.05%
I am financially ruined for life.

why do I keep listening to you people

i got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

MVIS chads sound off

Are tankers for wankers?

What's the deal with Financial sector stocks not listing their Price/Cash Flow multiples?

DHT earnings confirmed for tomorrow or is everyone just guessing?

I firmly believe CCL, DAL and USFD have bottomed out
Can only go up from now on

>>18870298
woooo lawd it's gonna be a nice ride to Thursday morning!

May the Fourth be with you

>>18870323
noice

i'm going to post on twitter that boomer mitchell got corona'd, let's see where this goes

i-is he gonna be ok?

>>18870344
After close tomorrow

>>18870345
Ya I bought CCL $10 July calls today for pretty cheap. Lambo incoming

>>18870247
>https://nhentai.net/tag/prostitution/
nice

>>18870379
he's gonna be ded by daylight

>>18870379
I will never forget his diarrhea counter website

>>18870379
Bullish

>>18870379
S

>>18870379
>corona gets him
>last meal wish is a nothing burger

>Heh, that's right, me, Warren Buffet, the Oracle of Omaha, sold all of my airline positions.
>You heard me bucko, everything is fundamentally changed, forever. Chinaman's Lung will prevent travel for all eternity.
>Heh, that's right, goyim. 15% gap down at open. I truly am the ORACLE of OMAHA.
>W-wait, why is it recovering?
>NO, NO, YOU STUPID FUCKING SHEEP, STOP BUYING IT
>I'M THE FUCKING ORACLE, I BOUGHT THIS AT 49 AND SOLD IT AT 20, WHY WON'T YOU LISTEN TO ME
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BUY STOCKS THAT I SELL

RTX bros is it over? Did the merge kill us?

>>18870421
POLO SHIRTS

Fuck guys i might leverage my houses to buy more natgas

>>18870323
Nice.

>>18870421
All of the volume pushing it back up was Buffett buying the dip

>>18870453
Which natgas? OKE?

>>18870453
Interest rates were insanely low yesterday

>>18870379
He's gonna be buying the final dip soon

>>18870339
what the fuck is your problem SHITSKIN. fintechs have cash flows from operating activites, banks have interest income. what the FUCK is the problem.

>>18870457
ng_f jun 20

Will bill's death cause the final dip?

>>18870457
Got 40 shares at 23 bucks doing fine for now. I was surprised with the rally.

>>18870421
>why yes, I wear adult diapers, how could you tell?
*shits pants*

>>18870515
it'll just be another nothing burger

>>18870515
Buy SOIL puts

MVIS Gang report on

Still holding

Stock is still going up

>>18870539
If this actually gets up to at least $4 I will never doubt /biz/ ever again

>>18870539
insanely so. i think it's gunna dump hard tomorrow, but will go back up leading up to conference.

Cant stop the bear market. Q2 earnings will be the worst in history.

>>18870515
>final dip next year to this year's highs

Can any tankertards tell me what’s going to happen to my $FRO? I’m tired of holding these fucking bags. Wife keeps bitching at me about them, that nagging cunt.

>>18870564
every thread this retard bitches about buying FRO at the top

nice futures session you got going there. would be a shame if...

>>18870553
Reddit is shilling this thing everywhere. Robinhoodies gonna keep it pumping all the way to the call

>>18870379
Who?

>>18870590
https://robintrack.net/symbol/MVIS
Robinhood pump is just getting started

>>18870515
His death will cause the last dip humanity will ever see. As they realize that a world without Billy is one big giant nothing burger

>>18870579
>at the top

I bought 100 shares at $9.20 because some fairy faggots on /smg/ keep shilling it.

>>18870590
i saw that, and had many keks

almost convinced me it was real

Sold my HAL for $60 profit now I'm sitting here waiting for it to go down which it won't.

>>18870564
why'd you buy a stock with "fro" as the ticker. it just sounds silly and niggerish. look at scorpion today, look at its cool name and how it did. from now on just buy based on how chad the name or ticker looks.

>>18870631
DHT earnings tomorrow are almost certain to be extremely positive because they've been pushing forward the earnings date repeatedly. If so, every single tanker stock will rocket a little. Maybe reach 52-week high or so. After next quarter's earnings, it might head toward ATH. I recommend selling or preparing an exit plan no higher than 90% ATH because tanker stock doesn't stay up long.

>>18870590
>to the call
Whcih call?

>>18870686
What exit price should I aim for with $FRO?

>>18870408
Fuck off, leftypol vermin.

>>18870686
You sure about that. 90% of ATH for DHT is like 180

>>18870656
>he didn’t just sit on it while collecting divvys

You’re literally never going to make it, retard.

>>18870687
MVIS earnings call Thursday after close

>>18870488
Excuse me?

>>18870681
>from now on just buy based on how chad the name or ticker looks

That’s not a bad idea, fren. It’s partially the reason why I went all in on $MITT.

Someone roast my portfolio

>>18870269
buy GME anon this time it will work out see you at the top

>>18870758

I'm relatively new to this and I just found out that Papa John's market abbreviation is PZZA and I dunno, I'm probably just easily amused.

>>18870418
holy shit

>>18870298
Bought in at .45 on Friday...feels good fellow chad

>>18870794
Students in finance are going to study what is going on in GME years from now. It is a masterclass in a short squeeze so powerful that nothing can stop it.

>>18870781
>no DHT

>>18870728
>>18870717
I think it's impossible that it doesn't 2x, extremely fucking unlikely that it doesn't 4x, not very likely that it doesn't 10x. Beyond that, there are too many variables at play, but I truly believe that anywhere from 90% of ATH to 110% of ATH is completely possible. The reasoning is that previous price records were caused by oil surplus nowhere near as high as the ones we're seeing now.
Aviation drives a whole 8% of oil demand on its own, and I don't see every air transport business being bailed out. Some are already filing bankruptcy and I believe many more will follow.
Road transport will take a while to come back still, causing more accumulation.
All forms of transportation combined account for about 70% of oil demand. Even if it were to restart at full capacity right this instant, this still wouldn't help the active supply already needing storage. The nature of tanker contracts means other storages will be freed up first.
This wasn't a thing in the last oil surpluses historically.
Meanwhile OPEC keep fucking with US even with the laughable cuts in place further fucking up demand and pricing. Saudi tankers are still on their way to the US too.
Even if everything started back as planned right this instant, I still wouldn't sell tankers until Q4 and I would still bet on >10x. Moreover, as restarts remain delayed, shit's gonna be even more fucked up. Reminder also that if saudi oil is cheaper than american or canadian oil, nobody's buying and therefore nobody's freeing supply of canadian and american oil.

Buy TMDX.
Long cunny.
Simple as.

>>18870896
based and cunnypilled

>>18870247
GILEAD

>>18870298
somebody in the other thread was saying MVIS has a chance to reach 10b market cap. That is huge upside potential. Even 10b might be low, look at companies like Exxon Mobil or AT&T they have market caps in the hundreds of billions.

I'm tired bros, I hope we make it

>>18870488
And there you have it. The perfect combination of random seething and total fucking nonsense. Anon, time for your meds. Good night

>>18870344
It's on their website under stakeholder relations press releases

I guess I'll just copy the other anon. Lemme know how stupid I am.
PSEC(free stock from RH), CBL, FIT, GE, HP, ENSV, WLL, OAS, GRPN.
I also have some BTC,LTC, and DOGE(just for fucks and chuckles)
I also used to have USO but since I had only 5 shares, after the 8-1 split, I lost those shares.

>thinks he can make it without reading this book

Lmaoing @ your life

Hope you all listened and bought natgas

>>18871008
fuck books reading is for nerds

>>18870539
Got out of stupid tvix and put it all in mvis. Atleast it's making me money now lol

>>18871032
Then, more gains for me, retard.

guys i figured it out, its not buy low sell high, its buy red sell green

>>18871027
Whats up with natgas

>>18870636
>not participating in a pump
>doesn't like easy money

Ngmi

>>18871008
>shilling shiller's book
top kek

>>18871055
Is it still to late to buy in? Whats the max we could get? Think people might want to cash out tommorow ?

>>18870298
>18870298
i tried to tell everyone, i posted and bought in at .43

lol i feel bad for people that thought it was a larp. msoft announcment on 17th, true moon mission here.

So is this the start of the REAL bullrun? Or a fakeout where everyone realizes all the fucking smoke and mirrors the Fed has been using?

>>18871085
some cheapies still around like RTX and natty gas

I'm currently reading on all the basics of technical analysis on Investopedia before studying patterns and strategies, then moving onto paper trading.

Day/swing traders: how long did it take you to make profit? I keep reading first timers invariably fuck up or lose money.

Also, is a supercomputer a must if wanting to day trade?

>>18870928
why did I ever buy that piece of shit stock, I got memed on

>>18871095
That is ONE sentence and it makes the end of it so hard to understand.

>>18871052
should've listened.....

>>18871104
Not sure nat gas is a good play right now. It's something to go heavy on as soon as things look like they'll reopen for real, but not before. Might even have to wait until one quarter after things open to actually buy.

>>18871081
Reading this book is better than any pump and dump or meme stock /smg/ retards can shill. Knowledge is the ultimate gains.

>>18871095
bullrun until the election then they have no reason to keep the charade and crash it

What do you guys think about longing DAL?

>>18871085
Would you be happy with @ 10,20,30% gain? Could be even more.

Somebody tell me why all the major tanker companies are worth a tenth of what they were worth 12 years ago.

>>18871085
I figured people would cash out today, and while some did dump most are holding. I expect the same type of chart for tomorrow's session. Pump first thing, slight dump and a slow steady climb towards the end of day. Thursday is when the dump is coming

>>18871095
I feel like it's both. Look at volume, no ones trading already, but the feds pumping it regardless. It's just going to be more of the same with retail investors logically shorting the market and being slaughtered by their own government.

>>18871134
now you understand why tanker plays are so enticing

futures pumping hard

>futures comfy green
BOBO ARE YOU OKAY?

>>18871134
My guess, just from looking at DHT, is they kept issuing shares and had little in the way of earnings. Tanker CEOs are slimeballs that are hedging against oil oversupply problems which almost always translates to something is really fucked in the world.

>>18871107
>Day/swing traders: how long did it take you to make profit? I keep reading first timers invariably fuck up or lose money.
I made a bunch of money immediately. Doubled my portfolio within a month. I developed some very bad habits and lost all of that profit and then some in the following months. Your experience will vary. Recommend doing TA mainly with indicators; some kind of moving average oscillator, some kind of thing that accounts for volume, and some kind of moving average on the chart that allows you to quickly determine the trend at a glance. It's very important not to over complicate TA. The simplest solution is nearly always the best and most reliable.

>Also, is a supercomputer a must if wanting to day trade?
Nope. I'm not a day trader though. The day trading strats I have seen are not complicated.

>>18871134
3 months ago: high demand for oil preventing them from making any money from storage fees
Now: nothing

Loading up on far otm QQQ calls all day every day.

>>18871134
12 years ago was 2008. What happened in 2008?
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/052715/how-did-financial-crisis-affect-oil-and-gas-sector.asp
Also look at (some but not all) tankers in 2014
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/robert-samuelson-key-facts-about-the-great-oil-crash-of-2014/2014/12/03/a1e2fd94-7b0f-11e4-b821-503cc7efed9e_story.html
Notice a pattern?

>>18871134
Because you're not looking at the correct metric.
Company valuation is measured in market cap not in price per share.
My Script shows mcap.

>>18871179
>NOOOOO THIS IS A CLOWN MARKET AIRBORNE AIDS IS GOING TO COME BACK AND KILL EVERYBODY

>>18871118
Why is it mooning

RTX so yeah they'll blow earnings but will the stock take a dump once it comes out or due to the crazy nature of things will it go up instead? Thinking of bagging some.

>>18870345
CCL will literally never go below 12 again, this is well established

So I got a pretty decent rate offer on a 3 year interest rate on a 15k loan (under 5%). Am likely buying long term call options on AAPL as their services are performing really well and I believe they will get outperform estimates on their next two phones (SE, 12). Planning to sell these options in October around COVID resurgence / potential early reinfection period.

Going to buy boomer stocks as well just obv trying to get as far over the 5% interest margin as I can.

Any advice boomer-stock-wise, retards? I know there are like 5 people here who actually have good advice.

>>18871261
Literally double your money with mvis tomorrow.

>>18871245
they're building gas chambers and killing all bears

>>18871261
can you get cash advances on your credit cards? that might be a smart move as well to put that into options

>>18871227
Is there anything in the public library for that? I'd love to see that and trading volume charts but I can't find either on tradingview.

>>18871277
Well shit, I should've bought in sooner.

convince me not to buy more RTX

>>18871261
Are you seriously taking loans to buy stocks? That is ....terrible.

>>18871107
This guy>>18871201 has the right idea. There are some batshit crazy "tools" out there that are simply outperformed anyway by EMA5, EMA20, and VWAP.
I think its also almost guaranteed you will get burned really bad at some point. That will humble your early gains and make you more focused on setting %gain/loss targets to remove emotional aspects. Feeling like you didn't let winners run will give you heartache. But having losers drag you into the abyss is going to be a gut punch.

>>18871125

100% this is what's going to happen

>>18871304
Pic related is mcap.
The rest is in "Financials" right next to "Indicators"

>>18871297
>why yes I own two natural gas pipelines, how could you tell?

>>18871247
expect a dump

>>18871311
Not to late to get in on MVIS

>>18871261
That's worse rate than most margins lmao yikes degenerate gambler.

>>18871331
I literally can’t. Thinking about buying a few grands worth purely one margin.

Shill me on natural gas stocks bros?
USAC is it worth it? What about OKE?

>>18871277

Wish I was capable of being that degen to throw it in a meme stock.

>>18871261
>>18871298
this guy's got the right idea, take the loan money and whatever cash you can get from your cards, then buy options on leverage

>>18871359
>USAC
yes

>>18871362
Do you know how much I've made off meme stocks, boomer stocks, fake pump and dumps. If you know its pumping why not get in and take even the smallest of gains. I tossed 10k into mvas at the very end of the pump and still closed up 20%. This isn't a long hodl game kid. Got to have the balls to make money sometimes

>>18871298

Lmao sorry no I'm planning to max out my CC's on OnlyFans subscriptions.

>>18871334
Considering it because a fixed 3.8% 15k loan seems like a good deal to me again the market and while I don't have 15k to throw around right now, if I did I'd put it in the market.

Where are these oracles now?

>>18871352
Market's closed, isn't it? I've got a pending order for 15 shares. Should I go more?
Like I said earlier, I'm still a little new. I'm using RH per the recommendation of a friend. Only realized that 4chan probably has a stock market general a little bit ago. So, please forgive my autism.

Help, I used my home for margin and leverage and this small +0.3% futures lost my entire home and put me in debt. What can I do

>>18871383
Are they basically a gas EPD?

>>18871407
Double down until you win. Reverse martingale, look it up. You can never lose this way!

>>18871407
muy basado

>>18871407
save cash by sucking dick for bus money and then walking home

>>18871352
when would be too late?

>>18871404
Market is closed. Watch it premarket tomorrow. You may need to adjust your order depending on if you did a limit buy. It might not trigger if your number is lower than the premarket number. Set a stop loss for whatever you're comfortable with.

>>18871430
>>18871428
>>18871424
Ok it went down a bit to +0.2% so I am not in debt anymore but the house is still at risk

>>18871424

This is how i made billions staking on Runescape

conveniently, it is also how i lost every dollar staking on Runescape

>>18871400

Alright arlight I'll buy $1k of it tomorrow just for the sake of all Bizraeli's -- can't buy aftermarket but I'll buy in the morning and post my gains.

>>18871441
When it's dumping.

>>18871345
Thanks

>>18871352
>Cap: 143MM
>Vol: 206MM
Jesus Christ

This feels like futures on 4-29, 4-30... Double top rejection into DUMP.

Is there any relation between oil stock and tanker stock prices? Should I grab both?

Some major shit brewing among all the major airlines. From just the United section of the airline pilot forums

what are the best indices? i have 1.2k to start with. lost 500$ last month trying to ''trade''. this isn't cut for me. i have much to learn. i'd rather invest in indices and not look back stressed out.

Which stocks are you bag holding, /smg/?

>>18871499
I would think they have an inverse relationship.

I was honestly expecting a bloodbath today, but I held over the weekend, braced my anus, and actually made out with gains. This clown market is actually okay.

>>18871506
SPY

>>18871008
>listening to a confirmed shiller

>>18871519
So which is the better long term pick?

>>18871508
honestly it was looking a lot worst about a month ago

>>18871531
Everyone loves a clown market until they get honked.

>>18871508
GE
>bought the top

>>18871508
Right now 30 shares of RTX at 60 avg. And 1,500 cash on the side.

>>18871506
DOW is roped into boomer stocks that are mostly dying or zombies.
NASDAQ is now follows like 5 stocks including Zoom and TSLA
Russell and SPY are the only indices worth anything now

>>18871554
Definitely oil.

>>18871569
>this delusion

You are not holding bags, retard.

>>18870453
Peak 2007 right here

>>18871506
SPY
>>18871556
How much did you open for?
>>18871569
Why before earnings? I am thinking of entering after earnings when we dip.
>>18871568
12$ or 30$?
Though that one is hard to watch. Its just such a giant that you always thought it was safe. Like GOOGL decaying to 50$ in 2030 would be for us.

>>18870728
DHT had a 12 to 1 reverse split in 2012, so their real all time high is 180 / 12 = ~$15 ...
Overall shitty company captained by drunk boomer sailors that lose money regularly.

>>18871617
$36

>>18871201
>>18871334
Thank you for the advice; this is encouraging. I will be sure to check on these when I start practicing.

I'm seeing this more of a side hustle than a full-time thing, so I hope I don't get cocky/greedy and make stupid calls. But then, you never in the real thing.

>>18871556
Oh hi.

>>18871594
Then what am I holding gold? I am already down.

>>18870687
what the other guy said
https://microvision.gcs-web.com/events/event-details/microvision-q1-2020-financial-and-operating-results-conference-call

>>18871627
Those are some heavy ass bags.

>>18871594
Its 2020, Anon.
Everything beyond 14DTE is a LEAP and a single dollar can turn an investment from Mumus wet dream into a bag.
>>18871627
Isnt that just 10% down?

>>18871617
I bought in the day after they merged and then threw some extra cash when it ran to 60. I didn't exit at 67 and am afraid for earnings this week.

jesus the bond market is a circus right now
>>18871618
Makes more sense.

ahhh I'm still on the waiting list of Degiro and my current broker has ridiculous fees. On the bright side, changes to get burned by the upcoming dip are minimal.

>>18871664
tell me about it

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/05/04/2027007/0/en/RESEARCH-FRONTIERS-TO-HOST-FIRST-QUARTER-2020-CONFERENCE-CALL.html

REFR earnings thursday

>>18871008
> Reading books from this century
Try A Modest Proposal, it's a satirical essay about eating the poors babies as a solution to the economic woes of the time. It's 100% /biz approved and I have no doubt Johnathan Swift would be an anon here. Here's one of my favorite passages, it's about critics who dare offer alternatives to his solution of eating babies. Keep in mind, this was written in 1729.
> Therefore let no man talk to me of other expedients: Of taxing our absentees at five shillings a pound: Of using neither clothes, nor household furniture, except what is of our own growth and manufacture: Of utterly rejecting the materials and instruments that promote foreign luxury: Of curing the expensiveness of pride, vanity, idleness, and gaming in our women: Of introducing a vein of parsimony, prudence and temperance: Of learning to love our country, wherein we differ even from Laplanders, and the inhabitants of Topinamboo: Of quitting our animosities and factions, nor acting any longer like the Jews, who were murdering one another at the very moment their city was taken: Of being a little cautious not to sell our country and consciences for nothing: Of teaching landlords to have at least one degree of mercy towards their tenants. Lastly, of putting a spirit of honesty, industry, and skill into our shop-keepers, who, if a resolution could now be taken to buy only our native goods, would immediately unite to cheat and exact upon us in the price, the measure, and the goodness, nor could ever yet be brought to make one fair proposal of just dealing, though often and earnestly invited to it. Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like expedients, 'till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice.

>>18871568
what avg

>>18871633
When you start you need to force discipline on yourself. You will almost certainly do better in practice than with real money because having actual risk will color your decision making: make all trades require a higher threshold for greed (and risk) before you pull the trigger.
I'd also set a max cap of money you will put into the market and only use half of that, dipping into the other half for amazing plays you see pop out in a blue moon. Liquidity is your friend.

>>18871443
I'll throw in on 30 shares on a market buy and just get up early tomorrow to make sure I'm not fucking myself. I don't have the foresight for limit buys cuz I lost out on some tasty shares once because my limit order was a couple cents off. Anyway, thanks a lot, anon. Anything else I should do not fuck myself?

>HTZ
Wow. How terrible was the ER?

>>18871668
Why not sell and reenter after the ER?

>>18871456
remember to wait for the small dip at the start.lots of people probably selling first thing

>>18871667
>Isnt that just 10% down?
More like %83

>>18871722
probably more smoke about how they are going bankrupt

>>18871751
He was talking about T, not GE

>>18871722
My issue is that the market does what ever the fuck it wants even if it doesn't make sense.

For example I thought some oil positions were going to get the trump pump and dump. I did call the pump and sold on the trump pump but the pump didn't stop and then when I bought back in that when the pump stopped and I got burned.

With RTX for all I know Thursday earnings are going to be a shitshow and it may drop big or in fact it may drop a small amount. I don't know what the fair price for this stock is but I assume holding it at 60 is still going to be a big discount in a year or two.

Plus we don't know if we go to war with someone all of the sudden or trump pumps it up.
Also am bag holding 40 shares of OKE at avg of 23 bucks and don't know if natural gas is safe now that oil is doing its crab thing.

>>18871705
Stop loss, even trailing stop loss will be your friend. Keep and eye on it though. Be happy with 30% gains. Don't be greedy.

How much longer can we see this go up. Surely it'll dump tomorrow

>>18871705
Also, are you poor? That's lunch money kid.

>>18871822
>I assume holding it at 60 is still going to be a big discount in a year or two.
Don't count on it, its going to take a long time for the aerospace industry to recover, even longer than the airlines which have planes just sitting around doing nothing. It would be better to sell at a loss now and make up it in a different sector and come back later .

>>18871852
Thursday it's toast. Enjoy the ride anon

>>18871594
>the shill cûcks himself, but in his delusion he seeks to turn others into bagholders.
>He tells himself war is coming, he tells others what a great deal he's gotten
>Moon mission, the cheaper it gets the more I buy!!
>A dip! What a gift!

1800 and 1500 in cash? Is that your entire portfolio? I'm not going to tell you any faggy bear shit but you're exposing yourself to unnecessary risk and dragging others into your shit.

You're also very annoying.

>>18871689
damn it Sparks!
fun read

>>18871441
Tomorrow. The dump will happen Thursday morning

poorfag here, i bought $500 of SPY puts today expiring 5/8, market was crabbing throuhgout morning and early afternoon, i went to take a nap at like noon and there was some bs pump and im $400 in the red, wtf guys?

>>18870781
Wish I hadn't sold my MRO and Hal

Anyone here still in NIO?
Any news?

>negative EPS
>stock mooning

sell me on the MVIS meme, UAVS had the bullshit youtube and pajeet rumor foundation, what does MVIS have?

>>18871505
Hey oct 1 my birthday and itll be a bobo day

>>18871898
A much more likely chance of being bought by Microsoft
Most of the employees at MVIS work at microsoft

>>18871859
Nah. Just considering that if I don't see this money ever again, I won't be hurting for it. Got temporarily laid off from work, so I'm just throwing in dough here and there. Gains aren't as huge, but neither are the losses.

>>18871894
Yup. 1000@ 2.65.

Long hold. Lottery ticket.
It won't fail, it's being propped up by the CCP

>>18871884
>poorfag buying options
That’s why you’re poor. Go to the casino, at least they give you free drinks

>>18871898
some insiders were saying JCPenneys is in talks to buy Microvision

>>18871884
based 0 strategy put buying retard

>>18871898
Speculation and rumor spread across the internet by rebbitors and 4channelers. Don’t question it just ride it up until thursday

>>18871505
>more unions would prevent airline layoffs
now thats a hot take

>>18871917
smart man, no way the chinks can pull off any more shady shit after the coof debacle and luckin scam

>>18871895
Positive EPS last quarter.

what should i buy to hold long term (10+ years)? QQQ? why not?

>>18871922
>some insiders were saying JCPenneys is in talks to buy Microvision

>>18871922
lel

>>18871917
When does NIO and CCP turn on TSLA since that probably the only reason why the chinese are letting musk have a factory in China.

>>18871920
they also give you corona virus

he should buy lotto scratchers, at least he'd get to experience winning a few times

>>18871916
That's a shitty way to trade or attitude to have. Set a stop loss and it negates you losing, or minimizes it. If you get into tickets at the right time you should never lose with a stop loss in place.

You sound like you think the stock is going to zero lol

>>18871939
>Shopify Inc. is expected* to report earnings on 05/06/2020 before market open.

>>18871505
That is United basically implicitly admitting that Q1 2011 is when they hope to stop the bleeding

>>18871925
Crazy seeing so many people with insane returns on their puts and then lose it all away expecting the market to just stay dead

>>18871940
Pembina Pipeline and Canadian Tire on TSX

>>18871954
Err 2021*

>>18870556
My based serfs will carry my fat ass to my tomb.

I'm very new here, month or so, is anyone here kind enough to point me a good broker for Eufags with usstocks? Is etoro shit? Is webull a meme?

I've read the bins, I want to know if there's something a bit better to start off than IB or Degiro (which has a huge waiting list right now)

>>18871508
100k worth of rtx. It’s ok

>these futures
I've lost my home, and am in insane debt on margin, I will never recover from this

>>18871953
I mean Q4 2019

>>18871964
I dont understand how you continue playing lottery at 450k. Buy yourself some divvy ETF or do CC on a few thousand SPY shares.
You wont have to work now. Just... why?

>>18871984
>100k worth of rtx. It’s ok

I hope Mouse Inc. crashes tomorrow with earnings. Mickey’s tears will fund my trip to Cabo this year

>>18871994
a massive dopamine rush from being a degen gambler

>>18871938
I don't think they need to with nio. Nio has built a lot of infrastructure around their highways in Shanghai. The CCP also is partly manufacturing their fleet so every vehicle sold is money for the government. They just started to release into the European market. Their AI is scary nightmare fuel for me, but the drivers and fans love Nomi.

>>18871946
nio fleet has longer range than tesla. I wouldn't be surprised if they let him set up to reverse engine everything.

>>18871994
Never enough.

>>18871940
Theres a 95% chance QQQ outperforms you actively managing. Just under 70% chance QQQ outperforms a professional, actively managed fund. Half of the other 30% beat it from insider trading.

>>18870477
imagine being buried off center. one last insult
>>18871822
>My issue is that the market does what ever the fuck it wants even if it doesn't make sense.
the market has always done this. if the market was completely rational, it would be a lot harder to make money. you wouldnt be able to buy undervalued assets or short overvalued assets.
>>18871954
by losing money faster than the speed of light, United is hoping to travel back in time and become profitable in the past

Lol and everyone said it was gonna be a bloody monday.

>>18871952
Nah, I don't think it will. But you're right. I should be taking advantage of stop losses. Are there any instances where its beneficial to hang on to a stock while its going down, or is it better to just catch it on the way up? I dunno if this even applies with the cheap stocks I'm buying.

>>18871531
You could make gains either way. I shorted small cap hard and came out +10% because I sold early in the day. It was a rare "I brought lube" day in the market for non-retards.

AMZN seems to be recovering?

>>18871618
Thanks, man. I really needed to know the real ATH but was having a hard time determining it. Will sell at 60% of ATH, ~$9

Pandemic. Trade war. Depression level unemployment. Futures are up again. I know there’s info that I’m not privy too but cmon. I give up.

>>18872022
economy is re-opening. we will be back to normal in a few weeks unless they will call another lockdown.

>>18872042
Tech, especially big tech, is inverse uncertainty in the rest of the market for anyone still trying to keep money in it.
The more uncertain other sectors are the more tech becomes a safe haven.

>>18872059
yet more evidence for tech being bubble

>>18871927
Think a 15% trailing stop will be sufficient to keep from being faked out/shaken loose? Already sold enough to cover the buy in so anything is profit at this point.

>>18872067
but everything is a bubble. service economy is a bubble.

>>18870886
I CAN ONLY GET SO HARD

>>18871453
oh no no no...
+.56%...

>>18872022
small spex will never get it

>>18872024
>>18872024
I personally trade short, mostly. Besides my lottery holds and my divy stocks, everything is enter exit within a few days. That doesn't mean that I don't buy back in to certain tickets after exiting them. This banks the profit and allows for an opportunity to grab it at a better price, even when looking at it short term. Why would you hold something that is losing its value/not making money daily for you. Don't be a bag holder, don't become attached to the ticket. Don't think optimistically. Cut your loses and get out.

That's why it's important to time the entry. Get in on the upswing and your stop loss can be set at a point that is still a profit for you, even if it gets triggered.

>>18872018
It's so people will know he's right-leaning. Being "centered" leaves room for doubt, this grave doesn't.

>>18872007
>let him set up to reverse engine everything.

Thats 100% what they are probably are doing.

It is like the basic rule in china that if you do business with china the CCP gets access to your tech whether you give it to them or not.

They even do that to for their military equipment. Like when borrowed their Russian "allies" designs by reverse engineering a couple of Ukrainian owned models.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russia-angry-china-stole-and-copied-its-jet-fighter-designs-80351
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922/china-copycat-air-force/

>>18871981
IB seems to be a popular choice with the EU anons. You might want to ask again in about six hours. Most of the EU people don't arrive in the thread until around that time.

>>18872022
More specifically, everyone was calling a downward correction, and that hasn't changed. Upward momentum is stalled, what is unclear is when and how deep.

>Brother told me he bought UCO with his recent paycheck
>Says he's carrying 30% balance on his cards to "build credit"
How retarded can you be

Will i make it?

>>18872116
I was about ready to go short if today was red on decent volume. Now things have returned to neutral and I remain mostly long.

>futures
OH SHIT WE’RE GONNA HIT THE UPWARDS BREAKERS TOMORROW

>>18871996
could've just thought about what people are buying a lot of right now, and picked up some Clorox.

But he had to chase that shilled garbage meme
>we're gonna make money off of killing brown people!
wow, great job with that

>>18872056
>the treasury department annnnounced monday it is borrowing about 3 trillion dollars this quarter
I trust jerome a whole hell of a lot more than I trust this mnuchin fucker. But hey, that's stimulus, that's "economic rescue efforts"

>>18872067
>muh bubble
yeah... maybe... or
these are actually too big to fail growinng companies with eyes towards a future that is looking increasingly favorable to them. In the future, we won't have countries, we'll have massive gated communities only for the employees of these behemoths. MSFT employees will breed with MSFT employees and so on. A new serfdom!

Also Apple has a fuckload of cash just sitting on their balance sheets, and MSFT has a AAA rated balance sheet so... fundamentals ain't so bad

>>18872012
https://youtu.be/6jZVsr7q-tE
>>18872129
Pretty retarded desu

>>18871055
numb nuts, already happy with my 200% gains. bought in friday

>>18872130
Why Schlumberger? I'm curious

is there a single more based man?

>>18870379
priced in

>>18872139
>>muh bubble
>yeah... maybe... or
>these are actually too big to fail growinng companies with eyes towards a future that is looking increasingly favorable to them. In the future, we won't have countries, we'll have massive gated communities only for the employees of these behemoths. MSFT employees will breed with MSFT employees and so on. A new serfdom!
>Also Apple has a fuckload of cash just sitting on their balance sheets, and MSFT has a AAA rated balance sheet so... fundamentals ain't so bad
a company can be solid and still be overvalued. thats what the last dotcom crash showed us

>>18872130
>GE
oh no no no... what avg

>>18870804
wait for this...
ZZZ is an actual stock ticker for a Canadian mattress retailer

test

>>18871869
Any sector ideas that can bounce back and are still undervalued then?

>>18870886
Fug. I sold 2 calls at a strike of 10 when I bought at 8 a month ago.

I still have a free 100 shares at 7.35. I'm not gonna make it unless there's room to buy tommorow am I?

>>18872210
thats amazing wtf

>>18872250
Tankers

>>18872210
That's fucking amazing. I can get behind that sort of creativity when its not exactly necessary.

Do stock tickers ever get retired if the company with the ticker goes under?

Is warren buffet canceled ?

is time to buy airline stocks yet

jokes aside 20%-25% unemployment basically means some 30-40 million people won't be able to find jobs for at least 2-3 years. maybe 50 years. how is that going to work? massive breadlines? high crime, violence, public unrest? literally 1930's? but it is 2020. so surely there will be some differences. otoh, is this the end of the suburbia as a concept? a massive flight back to the cities closer to the food kitchens?

Ah shit... I'm gonna get raped on my TWM. Smol Caps taking off. Shit Mike Wilson did say to position for the restart of the business cycle, but I just doubt that we can get shit started without a false start.

>>18872168
I guess... but what were global interest rates like during the dotcom crash? If you had more money than you knew what to do with, could you buy a German Bund or US T-bill and make money off of it?

Also all the dream of the internet was more of a theory back then, all you had was AOL and shit. Now it's a reality and smartphones are everywhere.

>>18872250
You need some patience if you want to see some "undervalued" opportunities. Things got pretty hot fast, I'd wait for a dip.

But the only sectors I trust right now are the "safe" plays in the corona-world:
Consumer Staples
Healthcare

I also like gaming (NTDOY), large cap with good balance sheets (JNJ, MSFT), and a little bit of semiconductors (5G and datacenters and gaming: AMD, NVDA, AMAT, MRVL)

FUCK FINANCIALS
FUCK CONSUMER DISCRETIONARY
FUCK TECHNOLOGY
FUCK HEALTHCARE
FUCK REAL ESTATE
AND FUCK JANNIES

I WILL ACCUMULATE UTILITES AND INDUSTRIALS AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE THING YOU STINKY JEWS CAN DO ABOUT IT

>>18872313
Buffet gave you THE DIP today

>>18872129
would he listen to you if you explained that he doesn't need to do that, and shouldn't do that, to build credit?

SEB is looking /low/ might finally pull the trigger on this

>>18871996
I bought pretty low and don't need to touch it for a while so im not really bovered.

>>18872313
That was 12 hours ago

>>18872129
kek, tell him if he carries 90% balance he'll build it three times as fast, see if he's dumb enough to do it

>>18872333
If America has that many problems you will seriously have to worry about China nuking us.

>>18872346
I bought 2000 LUV earlier today because why not

>>18871261
EURN short term
Boeing long term

>>18872346
>>18872368
yeah but no one is going to fly so why wouldn't it dip further

>>18870418
> >corona gets him

The irony would be actually delicious.

my tweet about boomer mitchell getting corona'd isn't gaining any traction, i will comment it on his tweets instead

>>18872394
United is hardcore fucked but LUV, DAL, and SAVE are all already getting passengers back.

>>18872346
Musk last week, and >le friendly Ice Cream Grandpa today.

>>18872130
>>18872158
This. Blackpill me on $SLB.

>>18872382
good choice their CEO already stated the worst is over for them

>>18872423
Its probably because its like HAL but has more global exposure.

>>18872333
It isn't. I'm probably one of few actual managers here. I have a team of 40. Originally I kept on 5 volunteers. Then 3 weeks ago I was able to bring 3 more back. Now I have 5 more coming back next Monday. My whole team will be back by the end of June.

BROS
Frontier Airlines is going to LET YOU buy the seat next to you so YOU can socially distance annd be safe! Now that's forward thinking!

Barry Biffle, you're a genius!!

Its over... for this thread
>>18872450
>>18872450
>>18872450

What other natural gas stocks should I get or look into?

OKE, USAC, CHK, KMI?

>>18872362
>pork production
bro what about the TSN incident

>>18871556
I just got to the point where I'm getting $100 divvies it's pretty nice

I’m so fucked I’m holding so much TVIX and SQQQ right now what the fuck do I do

>>18872444
Thats great news! Good for you. I am so tired of reading only the negative news all the time.
Is it possible that it depends on the type of business? Why do they say that a lot of businesses may never reopen?

>>18872520
>Why do they say that a lot of businesses may never reopen?
just look at the recent history of $GAME, or dave and busters. they weren't doing well before all of this. it's going to be very targeted

>>18872479
I honestly cant think of a year that meat companies didnt have some sort of crisis. But in the end they tend to outperform all other food companies. the bounces are thick

>>18872508
Wait till the market crashes again.

>>18871898
>http://www.giganti.co/SmartGlassesEOYroundup
normalfags are pumping this too
>https://alphastocknews.com/microvision-mvis-stock-rockets-on-takeover-chatter/3277/

>>18872551
I can't look at the market right now and say "I want to own SEB, right here right now" over and above other stocks. I just don't see a case for it. Not even interested until 2550.
just IMO
I'm having a hard time today finding stocks to get truly excited about.

>>18872661
But if you already own your favorite stocks and want something new, I think SEB is right for you, great chop and value too

>>18872947
I want real value now, not fake value

i'm going to lose over ten thousand tonight