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>>18833085
>We didn't fly the plane into the mountain and look at how many people are alive. Why didn't we just fly into the mountain?

This is how you sound.

>>18833085
Yeah and it was a massive fuck up

>>18833085
The China outbreak was supposed to be contained and was an op to introduce the "coronavirus" into the public consciousness. The real bioweapon was to be released in Brazil during the summer, and probably still will be.

When this thing got out of hand in February in Italy then the USA, the people who planned it realized something was up. That's why Bill Gates dipped.

The events we've been watching are really an enormous disaster preparedness drill, a live action wargame of a bioweapon. The USA is now on prepared footing and is positioned to protect itself from the later release of what will be called a "mutated" strain from the southern hemisphere.

sorry you had to find out this way, but they really did want to kill most of us.

>>18833085
“We” destroyed the greatest market in history for the entire population of Culver, CA (~37,000) people.

> Honk
> Honk

>>18833085
Yes. Did you not accumulate? What is the point of this thread?

>>18833475

>>18833475
the weapon they are using is fear
virus is over hyped

Its was a banker bailout in disguise

>>18835126
This This This

>>18833475
>>18834960
ahh yes here comes the schizos

>>18833085
yes

>>18833085
You think Trump gave up the greatest economy in our lifetime and his re-election prospects for nothing?

pay attention, it's about to get much worse.

oh look, there's another smart guy here, he's the only one figuring out the entire situation, world leaders should learn from this thread

>>18833085
>Did we really shutdown the entire country and tank our economy for this?
No, we did it because if we hadn't it would have been much, much worse than that.

>>18836132
>Comes to /biz/
>pretends he, himself is not a schizo
Sure Anon, sure

>>18836249
Worse how, pneumonia is more deadly than this shit yet you dont see the entire country shutting down for it

>>18836284
We're all schizo's down here

>>18836286
>pneumonia is more deadly than this shit

>23 different diseases including this one are cumulatively deadlier than this one alone
yes, you're so right.

retarded, but absolutely right.

>>18833116
take ur chip

Lots of countries have published reopening proposals to reopen the country.

It's over

>>18833475
heres me just buying ammo and arms stock
>/int keking my dick off
for once you faggots didnt kill yourselves with guns
>cold dead hands

>>18836342
btw 70k deaths
>god hates fags remember

>>18836353
nothing stops a virus quite like publishing a reopening plan

>>18833085
Those are the deaths BECAUSE the country is in lockdown. If we didn't do anything infections and deaths would have stayed exponential

>>18836132
Post gave an accurate enough prediction to not call them schizos. Half that thread called him a fag for the suggestion

>>18836457
gotta agree.

that second post is dead on balls accurate. The information isn't being hidden though. People just aren't paying attention to it. The CDC and WHO have been warning of 2nd waves since day one, and still suggest that it will never go away. Just like the Spanish Flu, this thing will probably still be killing people every year 100 years from now.

>>18836457
He didnt predict shit, italy had the first confirmed cases in europe before he wrote that post and stocks started crashing in february not march, he also said they wont recover until september but theyre already going back up

>>18836566
>he also said they wont recover until september but theyre already going back up
for the moment, after unprecedented actions to buoy the markets. Actions we can't afford to continue for the next 3 months when this invariably blows up again.

>>18836566
He also said the cdc is projecting 60,000 to 2 million deaths by early summer which is a wide enough range already to fit his larp and the cdc is apparently downplaying those projections meanwhile the actual deathrate is 37k

>>18836342
Good goy

>>18833085
You tanked your economy to keep the death count that low you fucking tard

>>18836614
He's probably not American. 4chan is home to glorious communist propaganda machine

>>18836380
yeah just like sweden, which is totally collapsing right now

>>18836512
>WHO
the same WHO that told us not to close borders with China? why are we still trusting these fags? we just have to do the opposite of what they say.

>>18836588
Yes actions we cant sustain because the countrys shutdown from a joke virus which we will be able to sustain once the country opens back up, and blows up again how when the “first wave” barely did shit to anyone under 80 years old

>>18835126
^

>>18836614
Thats out of 1 million people dumbass and even then the only people dying are old fucks in retirement homes who were about to croak anyway

>>18836638
the first wave isn't half way done yet. So it's not really a wave.

we're going to call it a second wave when cases take off again, but it's just the first wave still doing its thing because we let it.
>the “first wave” barely did shit to anyone under 80 years old
you may be right, but there's a few hundred million americans that don't agree with you and won't be out working or shopping when shit gets bad.

>>18836632
yeah, the WHO fucked up big. But in this case they agree with everyone else.

>>18836648
dying isn't really the issue.

dead people cost very little. You getting sick and spending 2 weeks in the hospital and then another 2 weeks sitting home not working is much more expensive.

>>18833085
Wait, we opened the parachte for this? We are still falling! Lets cut the Parachute, useless thing!

>>18836677
>The overall cumulative hospitalization rate was 40.4 per 100,000 population.
>Among 2,028 hospitalized adults with information on underlying medical conditions, 90.6% had at least one reported underlying medical condition, the most commonly reported were hypertension, obesity, chronic metabolic disease, and cardiovascular disease.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

Yeah those hospitals are going to get really clogged

>>18836692
When accounting for asymptomatic cases, covid-19 is barely more deadly than the flu. You are a scared little baby fear monger.

>>18833085
we need to justify it with more deaths

>>18836724
yep. that's hospitalization rate for the entire population, not for the infected population.

do you see why this is a problem? If the infection rate goes up 300X the hospitalization rate will also.

>>18836736
>barely more deadly than the flu
>killed more americans in 1 month than the flu does in 2 years
ah, a retard

>>18833496
Thanks jews

>>18836380
Stfu bootlicker

>>18836772
The flu has a hospitalization rate of 69 per 100k right now even with the lockdowns, this shit isnt even just a flu its weaker than the flu

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

>>18836286
>Worse how, pneumonia is more deadly than this shit yet you dont see the entire country shutting down for it
Pneumonia is a symptom, not a disease. In fact it is a symptom of COVID-19. So of course COVID-19 plus many other diseases are more deadly than COVID-19 alone.

>we
why do goyim keep saying this
you didn't do shit

>>18836863
>the flu has more hospitalizations from 9/2019 to present than Covid does from 3/2020 to present
um, no shit.
again, this thing has killed and hospitalized more people in a month than the flu does in 2 years.

>>18836736
This is factually incorrect

>>18836915
Flu season mostly starts in december so no its only a couple of months off, and where are you getting these numbers it killed around the same in a year and so what the death rate is still low as fuck and only affects 80+ year olds

>>18836630
So what are you saying

>>18837165
you don't know how to read numbers is all.

take your 37k deaths.
This is a factual number from the CDC.
But it's the number of deaths from Covid ONLY
you have to add in the deaths from Covid + pneumonia because that pneumonia was caused by Covid.

Also some fraction of the deaths with Covid + pneumonia + flu are being attributed to Covid.

I don't have time to sit and explain all the CDC figures for you. I suspect that would take weeks and there's still a lot you wouldn't understand.

>>18837193
That the lockdown didn't do shit.

>>18837195
>you have to add in the deaths from Covid + pneumonia because that pneumonia was caused by Covid.
You got this ass-backwards.
CDC are counting all deaths that look like Covid (incl. pneumonia etc.) as Covid deaths.

>>18837276
>CDC are counting all deaths that look like Covid (incl. pneumonia etc.) as Covid deaths.
yes, that's why their total is 90k Covid deaths while 67k is the generally accepted number.

You don't get to pick and choose which numbers you like if you're going to post your source.

>>18837276
the other thing you don't seem to understand is that Covid causes pneumonia. That's how it kills.

so does the flu.

you can't say it's Covid OR pneumonia. It's both.

>>18837330
>you can't say it's Covid OR pneumonia. It's both.
People with pneumonia (or other related symptoms) who do not have Covid are being counted as Covid deaths.

>>18836915
>this thing has killed and hospitalized more people in a month than the flu does in 2 years.
Bullshit.
It's at about the same number of deaths right now as a single bad flu season (which also only lasts a few weeks).

In reality Covid killed a lot fewer people, since so many deaths that are not Covid, are being counted as Covid.

>>18837276
and finally, before I head off to bed and forget about you completely-

pneumonia is a symptom of both flu and covid and a large number of other diseases, injuries, and poisons.

it's not just a communicable disease like flu or covid, it's a symptom of literally hundreds of different diseases. I'm not sure you're smart enough to grasp this.

>>18836630
But why are you lying about Sweden?

-https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

>>18837312
>that's why their total is 90k Covid deaths while 67k is the generally accepted number.
No, 67k is the CDC number.
It's the number reported by the states to the CDC in accordance with CDC guidelines.

>>18837364
That chart you quoted shows deaths, not cases.

>>18837354
>People with pneumonia (or other related symptoms) who do not have Covid are being counted as Covid deaths.
Yep. That's why the CDC says 90k covid deaths while the rest of the world says 67k

you're a dense motherfucker but at least you're trying to understand. Or maybe you're not trying. Either way, go lick a toilet seat.

>>18836630
>>18837364
Or is it that you just don't know about reporting lag and the bullshit devious Nords like to pull with nursing homes?

>>18837366
>No, 67k is the CDC number.
the link YOU posted shows 90k

>>18837382

>>18837360
>pneumonia is a symptom of both flu and covid and a large number of other diseases, injuries, and poisons.
Yes, and pneumonia deaths that are unrelated to Covid, are being counted as Covid deaths.

>>18837383
>That's why the CDC says 90k covid deaths while the rest of the world says 67k
No.
67k deaths is the number reported by the states to the CDC in accordance with CDC guidelines.

>>18837409
Exactly.
This chart shows the same curve as >>18836630

>>18837406
I only posted one link, here: >>18837276
and it makes zero mention of any figure in the 90k range.

>>18837422
Nonsense, Australian deaths never peaked above 300, which means you're showing cases on the top of the pic. Therefore your responsible chart compares apples to apples and uses Swedish cases.

Unless you intentionally graphed deaths hoping people wouldn't look into it, understand the delay in reporting deaths relative to cases, and that your argument is a disingenuous pile of shit. Which'd be bananas.

>>18837464
>which means you're showing cases on the top of the pic
I'm not showing anything; I didn't make or post that chart.

>Therefore your responsible chart compares apples to apples and uses Swedish cases.
No, he's showing Australian cases on top of Swedish deaths.

It literally says "deaths" on the Swedish chart.

>>18837496
Ah so you're just stupidly regurgitating lies rather than coming up with them on your own. I see why you're a floomer.

>>18837503
>so you're just stupidly regurgitating lies
I'm telling you what the chart shows, you absolute moron.

>>18837513
And I'm telling you that the chart presents the truth in a deliberately misleading context. Sweden's current policy maintains the infection level and does not reduce it like Australia's does.

Lockdowns do work and only get undermined by dipshits like you who go out and murder grandparents through your negligence.

>>18836342
weird that they had to come up with a new project to track pneumonia related deaths when a perfectly fine one was already in place the previous years

I wasn't aware that Covid also changed the nature of death or pneumonia itself

>>18834960
I remember this threat
scarily accurate, but he might just be extrapolating old virus data
Spanish flu also originated from china and mutated in Brazil bats

>>18837674
thread*

>>18836736
How do you know asymptomatic cases had sars unless they were tested? Antibody tests are pseudoscience by the way.

>>18837554
>Sweden's current policy maintains the infection level and does not reduce it like Australia's does.
Sweden's death rate is definitely being reduced though.

>Lockdowns do work
See above.

Also, Belgium went into much stricter lockdown than our neighbor the Netherlands, and our death rate per capita is three times higher.

>>18833085
You do realize that this is because we shut down everything? imagine how much worse it would have been if we didn't because idiots like you go around coofing up each others asses

>>18836915
that is utter bullshit and i'd like to see proof of the garbage youre babbling

>>18837195
you do realise that you dont die from covid19 alone but from covid-19 induced pneumonia?

your figure-juggling and dont even know what youre talking about

>>18833496
Yes, in a shocking turn of events, the government acted to save lives instead of money. I'm stunned.

>>18838023
There was no need to quarantine everyone in order to save the lives of the elderly.

>>18833085
Pic related is utterly wrong.

>deaths right now in US alone
>67 067

>>18838427
37k is probably a lot closer to reality.
See pic here: >>18837276

>>18833085
bunch of boot licking simps in this chat
this is wouldn't have happened if we kept the irish out

The Chinese are smarter and more abled than us and did a lockdown. We should do what the Chinese are doing. Do you think the Chinese would sacrifice their economy if this was nothing?

>>18838427
>>67 067

That's because hospitals are allowed to claim any death that was "likely" COVID-19 as definitely COVID-19, even without any test. The feds are giving each hospital $37,000 per COVID patient, so there's a huge financial incentive to overreport.

This is why cities were a mistake
#MakeCountryGreatAgain

>>18833475
It's not even real. The CDC mortality charts for ALL causes of death so far this year are actually 3% lower than this time last year. They just relabeled thousands of deaths as a fake hoax virus so the hospitals would get free money.
>b-but what about the noticeable increase in deaths right now.
People are afraid to go to hospitals if they think they don't need to. The lockdown is killing people.

>>18838439
whered you come from again?
either nigger or nordic.
neither are american
>but muh kangs
yeah wasnt you or anyone you know, also they were brits

gather more and die faster please, the jokes old now you need to try harder to keep up teh lulz

>>18836630
About 10 times more deaths in sweden than in norway or finland (sweden's neighbours) who did some sort of lockdown.

>>18838602
good, now they'll have money to fix your fucked teeth and your moms smelly southern cunt.
>finally fixed healthcare, just needed to kill retards

>>18838602
>deaths arnt real
>lockdown is killing people
which is it?

>>18838625
Sweden has three times fewer deaths per capita than Belgium, which had a strict lockdown.

>>18838648
lol
cultural epicentre and crossroads for panic travel vs virtually no traffic.
also no, stop lying or learn to read

>>18838642
There's no contradiction.

>>18836736
Chris Cuomo is such a queen

>>18838668
Based strokeposter.

Actually 64,283 deaths https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html