/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18811167
You're a man

>>18811167
nobody wants to see incel autists playing vidya

Memes aside your stream was probably ass

dress up as a girl

>>18811167
show boy pussy on recording i give you 1 billion iranian rial

Sitting in the shower on your phone is comfy

>>18811181
I tried to make light banter just like the big streamers

I got exactly... 1.5 dollar from streaming. We even had a 10 hour stream. It's not easy money at all.

>>18811167
Hell Man at least your trying. You can only get better

>>18811167
post it, i want to see your autismo in action

Do it because you like it. Do it enough to have a bit of a catalog of content. Then run some ads on facebook or something to get people to check your stream/page/channel out.

>>18811232
Nest time just shoot NIGGER! In fact do it like you have tourette's syndrome.

>>18811184
Unironically this might work

I actually did think about doing this, and was ranked pretty highly in wow arenas (like top 300 NA or something like that most likely, I've been top 20 though at various points). I played with basically every top rated professional, and if you watched any WoW arena stream in the last 2 years (up until about 3 months ago) for any length of time, you almost certainly saw me either playing with or against those guys. Even though I was probably in the top 10 or 20 for my class in north america, played with and against every sponsored player, and could literally say in discord while they're streaming "hey check out my stream", had my name as anontwitchtv that was on countless streamers' streams and in their vods, I'd still only get like 100-200 people watching me at most. Which is enough to get a sub button and make like $50 a month lol. No one donates to small streamers, they only give more money to the millionaire streamers.

You either need to be incredibly entertaining and charismatic, or be incredibly skilled and talented at the game. And when I say incredibly skilled, I'm talking like top 0.001%. Take WoW for instance, its basically only the top 10 or 20 players making any decent money off twitch (other games will undoubtedly have more successful streamers, but I'd bet the percentages are similar, if not more exclusive). I could literally play anyone outside of the top 500 or top 1000 and absolutely fucking smash them, it would be like lebron james playing in a highschool basketball game. I was better than like 99.95% of people, and that still wasn't close to good enough. The skill jump required to go from top 0.05% to top 0.01% is absolutely insane.

There are SO many more business models that have easier competition and actual reward for just being better than the majority. In video games there's no fiscal reward until you're in the top thousandth percentile, and even then its pretty meager outside of a handful of people.

>>18812616
>The skill jump required to go from top 0.05% to top 0.01% is absolutely insane.
What makes the difference?
Are the top players into yoga, meditation etc?

ive streamed for like 6months and made like $10, its not worth it, unless you enjoy it and do it normally when you play. also market is extremely saturated, so you arent going to get paying viewers unless you do something unique, do it everyday and for a long time

>>18811200
this

>>18812693
Its a combination of naturally gifted reflexes, cognitive processing (you need to be able to make good decisions in a fraction of a second) and lots, LOTS of adderall.

>>18812616
>You either need to be incredibly entertaining and charismatic, or be incredibly skilled and talented at the game.
This. You need to cater to a specific demo, like Preach, or be an assgoblin like Asmondgold and farm tards for pennies and 'reacting' to other people's content.

The golden age of making huge stacks off Twitch and YT are over. It's all ad driven now. As much as I fucking hate, despise and loathe that Jimquisition asshole, he made a video lately that lays it all out - you're either sucking patreon dick, or you're "reviewing" shitty mobile games and clone games for 10k a pop, or sucking VPN dick.

I watch some smaller scale gamers, and I noticed that all of a sudden, they were all trying the same shitty games at the same time. It's because those shitty companies used their investor cash to throw $5-10k at them to do it. Easy money, if you have no principles. Made me stop watching a lot of them, for how quickly they bent over and pulled their anuses open for ad cash.

Gaming and gaming channels are just like TV, movies, and music now, ad money has turned it all into a shallow sewage line. Nobody cares about some autist streaming from his bedroom in mommy's house now. You want to live off it, you gotta open up wide to accept ad dick - if you're pretty enough.

>>18811177
Well, there's a small niche for it, like that assgoblin Asmondold, but he's a complete outlier. There isn't much market for farming tards for pennies.

>>18811167
you have to become a tranny to get free money from simps

>>18812693
A lot of it is mindset yes. The top players dont usually rage, and always say something they can do better every single game (they'll usually just say "ggs" and dip if it really isn't working out). Also, a lot of the twitch ragers are just acting and generally like that when the stream isn't on. Some guys are just being themselves, but most aren't and playing with them on and off stream is like playing with 2 different people. But they also have better mechanics and quicker decision making than the vast majority of people. Not necessarily quicker reflexes though, being able to think a few steps ahead accurately is way more beneficial than being able to react quickly with twitch reflexes. I haven't met one top player who you could describe as "slow", even the ones who smoked weed all day all talked a mile a minute and were just really quick to formulate opinions/ideas if that makes sense.

But ya, its literally everything. They do all the small things, and play like 16 hours a day. Most had dummy accounts they played, secret throwaway alts with random names to warm up on with no pressure, did "coaching" (basically just charging people to play with them and boos their rating), etc. All those raw hours pay off. When you're able to put in more hours in a weekend than most players can put in a month, AND you're just naturally better and faster mentally than most people, there's almost nothing the average person can do to come close to that.

>>18812838
Or, you're method that has a team of people looking for any way they can game the system to get the most incremental increase they can to "win" an artificial race.
But even they're still sucking ad, sponsorship and Patreon dick. That's what it all comes down to.

>>18812876
Thats exactly what every top guild/player is doing though. Even the top private server guilds (and I guess classic for a bit, but I basically just stuck around for the leveling race and MC) I've been in in the past were doing shit like that just to shave seconds off molten core runs, lol. On random fucking european private servers that mean nothinng. Min/maxing is the new standard for video games, everything is immediately mathematically figured out and optimized and then it just comes down to execution.

I dont know much about Method but I have pve'd with quite a few players who played in Vodka, Limit, Pieces, Wildcard Gaming, etc in private server guilds, and as sort of soft carries in arenas for boosting me in pve, and those guys are the same way as I described earlier but with pve instead of arenas. Most of them make very little if anything playing, and they're literally better than everyone. Although unlike pvp'ers they have the benefit of being able to just take a month off their jobs to tryhard the fuck out of new pve patches, but still, the reward just isn't there for being in a top guild (for most people).

But ya, "gaming the system" is what every guild, player, team, etc does to stay competitive. You literally have to or you lose.

No larp , I will send you 100 chainlink for a time-stamped and Id stamped sharpie in your butthole

Wanna make some internet money friend?

>>18811167
Try jerking off for old men

>>18812616
can confirm
>t. challenger NA league player
was mostly master but had made it to challenger a handful of times (low challenger)
challenger is the top 200 players of a region at any given time based on ELO (same as chess)
now say you got on a team with 5 low challenger players up against a team with 2-3 high challenger players (really top 20 but the top 20 had multiple accounts i.e. smurfs that were also the top 50.)
The game would end up looking like harlem globetrotters vs local shitters even if in theory they were nowhere in difference on the ladder numerically the skill gap was just too large to even compete.
video games are cruel because these guys practice 16 hours a day, plus they have the ability to practice against their peers. Also it takes very high intelligence to be able to perform critical thinking and deductive reason in milliseconds

im sure at the end of the day it is like this for many sports

>>18814388
this is league of legends of course.
really regret spending 16 hours a day watching/playing/reading about a video game
had rationalized it to myself that I was going to make a living off of it

>>18814412
Should have done it with dota instead. At least then there's be less competition.

i gave all my moneys to the guy who said the were you

sorry

but he reslly convinced me

>>18812616
no one wants to watch anything by an anon who would write a comeplte unabridged novel to compelete strangers that will never read past the first blurry scroll as they search for the next meme reponse or meme to meme reposnd to wrote

just like this post

i just broke down your whole issue
too much useless content
not enough pepe pics or bait phrases to trigger autoresponsee

but i think if you and i teamed up fren we ca reach that goal of me finally
losing my virginity in any way oh god please possible and you getting that attention and reward of feeling worthy by other anons

I have a qt gf.
Can she really make money playing vidya?

>>18812481
Nice broken English you kike loving faggot.

>>18814666
just whore her out

its fun

>>18811167
Just once? You gotta keep doing it. Depending on the platform, you can't even unlock donations or ad revenue until you get 50 followers

>>18811167
If you're a man, then you've got two options. Be very good at the game or be a clown.

this one sperg (who came into my retail store often before shutdown) i know started playing warzone on twich, streams 6 hours everyday

after 1 month he has 500 followers and over $350+ in donos

>>18814666
yeah long as she games in a bikini top and panties she'll bring in tons of viewers and if she's got a pretty enough face she'll make tons of money off beta simps delusionally thinking if they donate to her they'll have a connection and eventually date her. just make sure she NEVER under any circumstance reveals she has a bf or lover. that's the death knell for a ethot

>>18814854
Does she have to actually be good at video games?

>>18814854
please post link to anons qt gf in panties

>>18811167
If you're not a hot grill then you need a really good on-camera personality. It's as simple as that.

>>18816061
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Send linkies or bitcoin and she’ll drop her panties.

you dont stream in the hopes of making it big. if you play vidya all day long, then you might as well stream because why the fuck not. dont fake a personality either, rather ham up whatever little personality you have, its easier that way and still come off as natural kind of.

>>18816380
pretty ok butt...would slap outta 10.

have her game in panties and bikini tops (that way you're less likely to get banned cuz it's just a "mismatched bikini set" but people will know)

and if she sucks at games she'll probably do really good as long as she legit keeps trying to play the games and puts in the effort.
My gf does this setup and actually makes more money than I do and she's shit at games so she mostly just plays games off itch.io and gamejolt and craps her panties playing five night at fredy clones. in fact she has a larger following than me so if I stream I just play retro shit.

Both of you should stream just accept she'll have a larger following cuz of her panties. also she has to get up and show off her undies alot so things like oh need a drink refill oh gotta get this game oh I need food... basically excuses to show everyone her buttcheeks

>>18812616
WoW is boring to watch and stifled your viewer growth. Get good at a decent video game and become funny.

>>18816000
No, hell she doesn’t even have to play games. She can: watch youtube, draw, arts and crafts, podcasts, sit around and eat etc.

>>18816950
>>18816884
How do we start?

youre only going to make money if youre genuinely funny or good at the game. If you are neither of those things you will be making $0 dollars.

>>18811167
Dude your have to eat your own coom while playing vidya.

You probably don't even by high and sell low.

>>18812616
True it's a tough area to do well in. Friend of mine from middle and high school I used to LAN party with got into streaming
early on about 11-12 years back. Worked part time at a game company doing QA for about 3 years while streaming until he had a large enough following to stream full time.

Before that, he was in a video game cover band and pretty much puts an insane amount of skill into anything he does. Quick reflexes and a sharp wit to boot. Also super supportive, open and stable parents.

Make so much money he can afford to do fundraisers and on the first day of May of this year raised $25,000 for an annual fundraiser that lasts a month.

Funny thing too is that there's a montage of "Soi Boys" I'll see on /biz/, yet he seems to be doing well for a so called Soi Boy.

Part of me envies his life and the money attached to it along with the qt 3.14 gf and the other part is wanting to do big things for myself and society at large.

Might be applicable, but a cam girl I used to be FWB with and have am still friends with gave me some advice. Find an under explored niche and go into it. This applies to any avenue of streaming, camming or Vidya. Easier to compete in an underserved market than a saturated one.

>>18811259
Lmao some dumb nigger gave you $1.50 that's pretty funny

>>18816960
Make an account on Twitch, search for collaboration and/or controversy and setup donation system.
For a quick rundown, just look at what the average streamer in the “IRL” category of Twitch does.

>>18811259
Show your tits

>>18812822
Asmongold is well spoken and fairly charismatic, and he built his following up over years of making videos which quite accurately addressed the problems with wow.

>>18811167

>>18817679
almost made me cry

>>18814412
>tfw I got to diamond and had illusions of grandiur, wasted all my teenage years trying to go pro

>>18817770
very wholesome

>>18816943
this

>>18812616
Listen pal.

Nobody cares about your wow skill on twitch. The problem isn't that you aren't good enough and just need to break top 5 on the ladder a few more times. It's the wrong mentality.

You need to be ENTERTAINING. Twitch is an entertainment platform. Be funny, interact with your audience, have personality quirks, be ENGAGING. If you are good at the game too, then that helps.

Look at someone like Forsen. He is not the top of any game, he doesn't play in tournaments or whatever. But he has built a community based on his personality. Most of the big streamers are like this.

Mitch Jones another good example.

Twitch career (for men) is not an e-sport career. Its a clown career.

Be a clown, be a good entertainer and start networking with others who have huge audience and you can get boosted overnight simply from appearing on someone elses stream and people taking a liking or interest in you. Then you might get somewhere. Grinding on your world of warcraft e-credentials won't get you anywhere.

>>18816000
what you want to do is; you play video games off screen and she reacts to your gameplay on screen so the thristy simps will think your gf is good at games

>>18811167
just act really autistic and be loud (funny)