/biz/ - Business & Finance

FIRST.

SO LET ME SAY - FUCK TRUM

>>18797071
Base

I love cunn

FUCK JEROME
FUCK BULLS
FUCK DIP BUYERS
FUCK FOMO FAGGOTS

A new month
A new opportunity
April 2020 was a fantastic month for stocks, I hope that all of my /smg/ friends made plenty of money.

>futures all red
Looks like meat's back on the menu boys

ONLY FOUR MORE DAYS TILL MY MASSIVE COLLECTION OF RIGL $2.50 CALLS PRINT

How fucked am I holding ZM calls hoping for a bounce?

>>18797090
What a qt...

>sell in may and go away

That jukebox in the corner blastin' out my favorite song
The nights are getting warmer, it won't be long
Won't be long till the summer comes
Now that the bears are here again

THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN
(THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN)

THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN
(THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN)

THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN
(THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN)
SPREAD THE WORD AROUND
THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN
(THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN AGAIN)

>>18797090
I am financially ruined

Alright cunts, I'm going to give you a CV play where you can make a conservative 60% gain.

With a Zach's price target of 20 this baby is currently sitting at 11.59 due to a smear article (which they've had before (daily reminder not to trust (((analysts))) and pumped after).

I'm giving back cause I've learned a lot from this sub.

>do your DD

CODX - They make CV tests and have many global contracts, earnings in 2 weeks which are going to be ridiculous. They're edge is accuracy combined with speed of the test.

how much capital should i have in order to retire with a comfy dividend portfolio?

So if we have another March tier drop, will that erode the market's confidence in Jerome's ability to print us out of any contraction?

>>18797129
I capitulated yesterday on the top. Buy high and sell even higher or I am a bagholder the coming months. Got MRO, DHT and ET...

>disruptive

Guise shud eye go all in on TVIX

>>18797170
>this sub
Hah!

>>18797090
Imagine making money in 2020

>>18797087
AND FUCK BREAKERS JUST LET IT REVERSE MOOOOOON

>>18797173
2 rental houses and 800,000 in dividend stocks

GIB ME CHEAPIES

>>18797141
LMAO RIP FAG

>>18797173
My FA told me I needed to hit the 4 million mark before retirement.

>>18797170
You had me at
>alright cunts

I’m dropping $2k in it today

Howdy goyims

>>18797209
>2 rental houses and 800,000 in dividend stocks
being a landlord is a meme on /biz/. you people learnt nothing from 2008 and youre going to learn nothing from 2020
"bb-b-b-b-buy landdd! its heckin passive income! god aint making any more of it! a shitty duplex located in my ass end homecity cAN ONLY GO UP BECUASE LAND ONLY GOES UP! and its not a job! and property taxes will never go up! and democrats will never pass new regulations when they come to power! and we're not in a bubble! GOD AINT MAKING ANYMORE OF IT! IT CAN ONLY HECKIN GO UP! GRAB ME A ONIONS AND A LIME SCOOTER IM GOING TO THE BANK FOR A MORTGAGE!"

Is it worth buying puts at the start of the day tomorrow? Or am I fucked if I didn't have some already

>>18797243
Buy calls for cheap

>>18797238
it's a meme because /biz/ is all shitcoin gambling zoomers with no credit history.

imagine being a 40 year old virgin who RENTS

>its going to limit down

>>18797257
I'll be doing that too anon, but I want to make some shorter term money

I want to change to a comfy investment style, I'm tired of daytrading.

We're rolling in the green tomorrow bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdE5e9MA8fM

Lets laugh at robinhooders

>>18797170
*...and pumped after) and due to a much need retracement which took ages

typos are cause I got fuck-all sleep last night.

We've hit support both in the channel and a previous resistance. Now is a perfect time to buy.

>last post about this shit

You're welcome.

>>18797199
I’m imagining it. And I like what I’m imagining.

>>18797323
Basedhood

>>18797302
I'm just going to start piling up div stocks. I have too many things I want to pursue to use all my free time researching shit that may or may not just blow up in my face because of the clown market anyway

>>18797262
>imagine being a 40 year old virgin who RENTS
its one thing to buy property for yourself. i support doing that.
its another thing to stake your life savings on becoming a landlord, because the internet told you that you cant lose money. being a landlord is a fucking job. its not something that can be done trivially.
besides, your retirement portfolio should be - above all else - diverse. if 90% of your portfolio is in 2 houses, that should concern you. that's riskier than putting 90% of your portfolio in 2 stocks. its not a gamble that should be taken lightly. and its certainly not "passive income."
the idea that "land can only go up" and "being a landlord is passive income" is what causes these real estate bubbles. /biz/ prides itself on being cynical and bearish, and then falls for the most naive hope

Dpnt look at future mumu.

>>18797052
Futures seem a bit sad tonight?

>>18797177
I feel like shit. Jumped on this small cap energy train too late and it is bleeding me drie now. I hope the earnings will be good enough and the market rational enough. But I doubt it.

>>18797342
So far everyone I try and grab profit from my divvy stocks, I get bogged and it climbs. Going to just sell on a huge green day and just wait to enter back under, but usually only works with defense, oil, and other ones so far. Did manage to sell UPS right above break even before that shit sank.

>>18797358
Futures are just degenerate gambling. Useless until about an hour before open.

>>18797173
Just buy ET
20% dividend means you could retire off 50k

>>18797368
*dry

>>18797323
>UAVS
Kek

>>18797368
You should only be buying oil and energy from companies that can survive if you are willing to hold for over a year or more unless you are swing trading small gains.

>>18797379
You think they will keep it with earnings and demand for natgas being lower come summer? I know USAC is another that announces May 5

How much of this drop will be only amazon. Isn’t AMZN like 15% of the s&p 500

>>18797391
MRO is solid, DHT is solid and will do well when MRO does not. ET was the dumbest. Jumped on the hype train at the exact top.

The leg down in May is going to be biblical

>>18797323
What a hideous portfolio

>>18797329
Added to watch list
I'm holding abbot. I'll keep an eye on this, thx

>>18797416
WE WANT CHEAPIES

Where my /cashgang/ at? What cheapies are we trying to get into?

Did you listen to him?

What’s your price target for TVIX today, bobos? I’m thinking $360

>>18797323
I wonder...
How many of them are free stocks, and how many of them are just like $10 worth? It only measures the amount of accounts who have one or kore share, right?

Honestly, I’ve bought a single share of a company just to keep track of it and have it on my schwab news feed before.

>>18797413
Guess it depends on how they handle their divvy for ET. I only have 10 shares, but don't feel like grabbing 90 more until earnings.

>>18797339
I’ve noticed this trend where it says x amount of other users on Robinhood hold this stock. If it’s a lot its best to stay away. My most solid gains this season were stocks that were obscure on RH

oh boy time for bank runs

>>18797329
What a good price to enter. Already have PFE, MRK, and EBS

>>18797446
I have like 70% stocks 40% cash, so I don't know if I count as cashgang or not
I never look for specific cheapies, I watch and see what dips and buy that, whatever it is.

>>18797468
I think it's showing what people bought on RH in the past month or so (maybe for the year?), not what they hold

>tfw smallcap growth and pure value bounces back the hardest when the 'bottom' is formed

>>18797509
MRO, COP, HAL, EPD, FANG, USO, USL, BNO.

will they survive the coming giant red dildos? i put maybe a thousand spread out into these recently. i mainly bought them because it's easier to see them than bothering looking at a watch list. im looking to buy more when they drop further but I don't want to dump money into something that gets delisted. im looking for long term gains, so im not concerned if they dip further because i wont be selling for a while. im too busy to stress about the short term.

>>18797411
>How much of this drop will be only amazon.
kek seriously? If amazon is going down its taking everything with it. Most days its straight red or green across the board.

fuck these futures
-2.39%
hold tight lads, wave's a'coming

>>18797567
MRO is solid. The CEO even said that he is against bailouts in the US oil industry. Saying it is unamerican and bad for the market. The earnings are soon so lets see how that plays out.

I am hedging my energy stocks (which are long term holds) with DHT.

>>18797567
didn't mean to reply to that other poster, lol

RDSB

>>18797618
Back to 3 digits.

>Good
Shell saves money to buy bankrupt assets
Other oil majors eventually cut in Q2 which makes them crater and Shell bounce back

I literally covered my short at the top of the market.

>>18797302
Swing trading is fairly calm most of the time. You're just trading the middle 50-80% of any given daily trend. Enter after there is some show of support and a break out of the bottom range, exit on the back side of the peak when balance looks to be tipping in bearish direction. Do it over and over and over again. Some of those trades are going to be a loss, usually on particularly convincing fakeouts, a ton of them are going to be break even or slight few percent gain, and some are going to be monster bull rushes. Most important thing for me is to trust my strategy and acknowledge that it is based on statistical probability over time, that I shouldn't be getting mad or, worst of all, try to knee jerk change strategy because I'm mad.

That's pretty much it. You can use stop losses on entry and trailing stops on rising winners if you like but I'm iffy on the long term advantage there. Stop losses seem to knock me out at pretty disadvantageous spots, worse than if I just waited for my TA to properly form a sell signal for me. The best chart pattern exit on a long for the way I trade is the double top. If the second peak comes within a reasonable time period of the first, my TA stuff will generate a nearly perfect sell signal. Unfortunately, the worst pattern is closely related: the triple top. On triple top I'll get the good exit but it will be followed immediately thereafter by a guaranteed to take a loss buy signal on the run up to peak three. Those are the breaks tho.

>>18797454
Sort of, I normally contribute $50 a week to my Roth IRA, and then when April comes around I do a lump sum of the difference between what I've contributed and whatever the max is.

With all this going on right now, I switched to $100 contributions each week, and around the time in that pic I did a smaller lump sum of the future difference.

>>18797628
Shell is on my research list for potential purchase. Looks yummy

What the fuckerinos?

You told me Raytheon was safe.

>>18797533
What dog breed?

>>18797628
Good long term hold but I am not getting in there yet. Wait till they cut divvy next quarter

>>18797618
Sold at small loss of like $5 and will look to buy back in, but I want to wait next week after exxon earnings during after hours. Probably better to just get COP again

>TVIX up 30% already
Gonna make up for some of my bags fellers

>>18797705
where are you seeing this

>>18797654
Where have you been? It swings from $60-69

>>18797431
Abbott is a well established medical device company... not really a comparison.

But if you look at that chart, looks like a pennystock to me, risk is just tooooo much.

>>18797654
>MrD listened
Kek they’re shills lad. LMT is the one to buy but don’t listen to me. RTX is interesting in a pullback but not where it is.

It’s okay son. I just bought AMAT, AMD, and KO before what looks like it might be a rough pullback. And only $200 of TWM.

>>18797721
Is this a serious question? You don't know how to use a broker to search for tvix?

Looks like Amazon is influencing the lion's share of sentiment this premarket. It's gonna be red open for sure, is currently sitting at -4% PM, other big market movers hanging around 0% - -2%. Very curious what opening hour will look like. Decent flood of dip buyers or a temporarily holding period waiting for possibly cheaper cheapies next week?

Oil tankers:

Don’t by NAT. Overpriced.

I’ll give you guys a hint - look into EURN and STG.

DHT is ok

>>18797804
is STG expected to rebound?

>>18797792
It’s gonna be red through the weekend for sure. I’m holding cash and short positions til next week

>>18797735
>>18797724
Bought I went all at $66 and change.

>>18797792
It’s genna b a fucking bloodbath

>>18797856
Had it from pre merge, buy under 64 if you must have it or just wait until it's near 62. Next time it fires to 69 I'm dumping and waiting for another dip.

DAL a good purchase tomorrow?

retard anon here, swing traders, how the fuck do you make (reliable/consistent) profit in a bear market?

This is the rugpull isn't it?
Those that miss the 'dip' are going buy on every drop, but it'll drop even longer than March 23 and everyone will run out of money by the time it ends...

>>18797856
Then you better pray for a goddamn vaccine I guess, or something to get air travel demand to pick back up.

My ZM calls Jesus what a stupid mistake gonna sell them on open, fucking bounce my ass

>>18797880
People here said it was going to $90.

>>18797883
I bought in yesterday. Fuck.

>>18797825
Yes.
It’s super undervalued.

>>18797881
yes. buy airliners. listen to me, i'm rich! pic rel is proof.

>>18797897
People here said UAVS was going to $100. Don’t be a retard.

Wanna buy more AAPL

>>18797170
CODX already getting some attention....this looks interesting

>>18797897
Not right now. Why would you think aerospace would be going up when shit is grounded? Why don't you think a bit. NOC, GD, AVAV, KTOS, LMT all get dragged down in these red days.

>>18797897
Also you should not trade if red day swings cause you to cry. Set training stops if you can't handle the wait.

>>18797952
trailing*

going to put 80% of my portfolio into SQQQ. The bull market is catching it up to itself. Tell me I'm wrong anons.

Gonna buy some juicy CCL calls today if they keep dropping like this

>>18797909

your response sounds sarcastic but yeah sure.

>>18797914

kek i could’ve made $600 off UAVS but i fell asleep and (ONLY) lost ~$200

>>18797311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxL_r-0VC1k

what's the stealth play right now like tankers were 3 weeks ago?
>buy back into RTX and do it again
other than that

I was up 22% MoM and kept a lot of my positions. Luckily sold AMZN, but gotta remind myself why I bought into oil and aerospace - to HOLD. I'm running out of cash to buy these dips with.

>>18797897
I'm the person who said that, apparently you missed the really important part

"RTX is going to $90-100 by the END OF THE YEAR"

not "lol it'll shoot up like a shitcoin", that's retarded, I'm surprised it went up as fast as it did desu

>>18798041
>stealth play
LMT?

If I want to just stick shit into index funds and leave it for a few years should I put it all into one or two funds or spread out among a bunch of them?

>>18798069
get 2, one for the s&p and one that is strictly tech related, 50/50

>>18798063
Isn't LMT kind of on the expensive side already? What am I missing?

when i sell on robinhood how long will it take for that cash to become part of my usable cash account?

>>18797984
Watch out he wears polo assn shirts.

>>18798083
>what am I missing
his pun

>>18798091
To trade? Instant
To withdraw? Couple days

RTX contracts for glowies of pine gap if I meet an rtx investor I'm going to choke them

>>18797882
If it's a confirmed bear market the majority of your trades should be short or volatility based options strats (straddle/strangle etc). You can also go long on outlier things with no index correlation, however, the bear market can still be a headwind to the potential upside there just as a bull market would be a tailwind.

>>18798126
based

>>18798126
We heard you talking shit

TVIX gang, mount up

>Only just now realizing I left a position open over night

I sold a 05/29 TSLA strangle at 600p/800c about two weeks ago. I was shitting my pants when TSLA was around 850 a couple days ago.
Breakevens are 480/920 so I'm holding till I can make at least 80%

>>18798130
Interesting, thanks.

>>18798126
Haha, no

today is the day i capitulate
been fun bros

So what's everyone's TSLA price target? You know it's going to crash again if the market does, and you know it'll shoot right back up because of fanboy buying creating another short squeeze. You can set your watch to it. My target is ~$500, maybe $550 if it looks like it's bottoming there. I think it has a hard floor around $420.

>Earnings drop by 14.4%
LOCKDOWN DIDN'T EVEN START UNTIL MARCH

WTF!

>financial results worse than predicted

>pomp it

>>18798182
>finds new support at 1000

Thanks, just bought 100k

Leaked picture of Raytheon stock holders who buy at bottom today

>IAG hasn’t moved despite it being 10:12
>look at the exchange, it’s closed
>confused
>remember it’s the first Friday of May so it’s a bank holiday
>less confused that the Spanish exchange is closed
>still annoyed I bought the wrong IAG stock, since saxo decided to make their weird 10% of actual price spanish shares the one that showed up first when you searched the ticker

>>18798209
that middle man has very hairy arms.
I am calling bearish on this one

Bizbros, fill me in. TQQQ and SQQQ just track prices of the market like SPY and DJI do right? They don't slowly lose value over time like UCO, USO, GUSH etc correct?

>>18798209
I dunno if the bottom is today but I'm absolutely going to aggressively average into it, over maybe a week. $62.80 is such a ridiculous steal of a price. If we go back to the $50s I'll sell everything (that I'm green on, never actualize a loss!) in my fun money account and go 100% RTX.

>>18797567
I put $1000 into HAL and MRO yesterday. I think they're going to pay me eventually.

>>18798230
No, they operate different from both scenarios. Because of the leverage and rebalancing, it can't track the price of the market but only be a derivative of the price.

>>18798230
SQQQ loses value over time and trends towards zero, just like DRIP. TQQQ technically loses value over time compared to the claimed 3x leverage, but if the market goes up over a long period with low volatility (like the last bull run) it actually beats the index in the long term. Some big brained math guy in some blog post somewhere found a 60/40 mix of TQQQ and a 3x treasuries ETF works really well.

>>18798230
Any leveraged ETF goes down

>>18798209

>>18798255
TQQQ outperformed QQQ since inception, by a yuuuuge margin if you were smart enough to sell in February when Wuhan locked down

>>18798230
$1000

>Day 1
NASDAQ goes down 1%
$1000 becomes $990

TQQQ goes down 3%
$1000 becomes $970

>Day 2
NASDAQ goes up 1%
$990 becomes $999.90

TQQQ goes up 3%
$970becomes $999.10

You lose 80 cents MORE

>>18798255
i dont get it

>>18798258
u are an unevolved monkey but at least you have a fake rolex

>>18797927
Vaccine/treatment runners will dramatically shift the moment the FDA announces who they're going with

I'm tired of waiting on these so-called cheapies. One job BOBO, one FUKIN JOB

>>18798320
Now compare it with a flat market or 'recovery without bullrun'

We can say for sure now the crash is over and things are back to before Corona?

>>18798335
Rude

>>18798320
That guy was down 150 grand at one point
Also make the end date in April not February and see how much he made

>>18798366
Are you retarded or just incapable of reading a chart?

There's a ton of posturing on /biz/, myself included, so I'm gonna be completely and totally honest for once. I'm being vulnerable here bros, so no bully pls. I AM UTTERLY FUCKED IF THIS MARKET DOESN'T GO BACK UP. YES, I AM SEETHING, BUT THERE IS NO COPING. NO COPE COULD POSSIBLY WORK. FLAY MY BALLSACK AND TURN INTO A RUBBER BAND BALL THAT LITTLE KIDS USE TO COMPILE THEIR TRADING CARDS, I AM FUCKED. COME ON JEROME, IF THERE'S EVER A TIME TO PUMP IT'S RIGHT NOW. PUMP THAT BITCH JEROME, PUMP IT PLEASE, PUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPPPPPPP FUUUUUUUCCKKKKKK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18798401
What options did you make?

>>18798183
*Mid March
And FUCK TRUM

>RDS-B 29.90

Oh no

>>18798401
What timeframe?

>>18798258
Check this out

>>18798390
Everything recovering

>>18798401
It's only been going up since the crash you missed the bottom.cope

>>18798429
ok shrek

i literally bought near the top
the pain of missing all those gains was too much
but i'm in long time and i will just wait it out
wait 3 years and ignore this clown market

>>18798440
OK kerek

Anyone here traded SQQQ calls?

>>18798429
Nice, here's my son's watch.

>>18798441
And it comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down

>>18798454
Only retards
Even a shitcoin is a safer bet

>>18798061
>by the END OF THE YEAR
Well he just wanted to price that in. Can you blame him?

Ok imma be completely honest here /biz/. I have ZERO idea of how leveraged ETF’s actually work, but they make me money so I don’t really worry about it too much

>>18797654
>buys at the top
>wtf it's crashing!?!?

>>18798441
same anon dunno why but i'm kinda happy

holding TSLA put from 852, im very sad im a poorfag and only bought 6 contracts on my cfd

>>18798483
Why?

>>18798448
Kerek would obviously win, look at how thick and powerful he is

>>18798507
how do you do it

So we're just buying inverse ETFs pre-market and selling them after the first limit down, right?

Has Jerome been told to stand down?

>>18798144
100 share tvix troop reporting in. Should be back in the green today after a rough week.

listening to this for the first time, you frens should listen along
https://youtu.be/Ik-HilOa8KQ

Shell stop fucking dropping

>>18797052
It was a good month boys

>>18798583
well done lad, im happy for ya

bears really think Jerome going stand by and let the market wipe a month on green

>OHHH BOYS YOU'RE UP FOR A BIG SURPRISE BEARS

>>18797238
2008 crash wasn't really caused by land or property, while it is dubbed the housing crisis, it was due to lehman brothers getting greedy and issuing mortgages to people with terrible credit rating and the greed of investors wanting to buy these mortgage debt and the incompetence and greed of AIG which issued credit default swaps for those mortgage debt but don't have the capital to pay for it. So when many people defaulted on those loans, lehman lost billions and looked at AIG which also couldn't help and lose billions as well. The bankruptcy of the largest bank in US sent shockwaves and panic through the economic sphere leading to a huge selloff of stocks and property. So the cause was really just the mass lending of money to poor credit rating individuals

America is doomed. I'm considering moving to Austria.

>>18798583
Excellent
You should realize those gains if you haven't

>>18798616
You don't understand the role of the Fed, do you? Keeping your bags afloat is not their agenda.

>>18798635
>Keeping your bags afloat is not their agenda
I'VE BEEN LIED TO

>>18798583
damn congratulations what did you buy?

>>18798627
German here. Austria is pretty based. Look at how well they contained corona-chan.

>>18798645
that weiss is doing some pretty amazing work senpai

>>18798627
So we need another world war? But Europe is a bunch of pussies now

>>18798583
Once I get 100k I will buy a house

>>18798645
it's easy when your country is autistic robots instead of retarded mutts

>>18798659
Once I get a house, I will sell it and get 100k

>>18798634
I have Sir. Currently 58% cash with goals of selling other stock held once price targets are activated and wait for oil stocks to go lower again.

>>18798517
same, it took away the pressure
now i don't give a fuck anymore
if it goes down further i just buy more kek

>>18798539
Buy low, sell high

>>18798644
APA,MRO, DNR, CHAP, ICD

>>18798659
awesome I am waiting until I make more to keep the money working.

>>18798538
But one kick between Kerek's legs and he goes KO

>>18798681
holy shit that ICD

>>18798627
Do it, American here living in Austria. Very cozy, high trust and still basically 0 dindus. Germans without any of the cons. Rather, Germans are retarded degenerate Austrians

>>18798681
damn those are some nice oil gains
impressive stuff

>>18798702
I didn't even get it when it was at bottom and I made good money off it. I caught the rocket up and got 40% and sold.

>>18798655
American mindset: the solution to any problem is war

>>18798635
>>18798643
>Incidentally, when Jerome Powell was asked what he thinks of this pushing stocks higher, he said that "WE WANT THE MARKET TO WORK , we are not focused on asset prices", to which he added that "it's been GOOD TO SEE THE MARKET WORKING." Which by implication means that when markets are down, they no longer "work."

Literally scraping by as a student, I do fundamental analysis and optimal portfolio work for hours, buy in yesterday and get raped by oil and airlines

>>18797170 This is the one. CE and Emergency FDA approved they’ve got the whole market covered. Just brought out a saliva test too!

>>18798731
>fundamental analysis
well here's your first mistake, fondamental went out the roof since rona started

ET is one thing I'm going to hold no matter what

>>18798731
You did FA and bought after a huge senseless pump?

>>18798727
Who are you quoting?

>>18798752
to distinguish between shit oil and decent oil yes. I knew the timing was retarded though. I'm actually ok, just need to wait it out

tankers are looking back up boys

>>18798756
a news report

>>18798756
i said that

>>18798731
At least you didnt lose 70% on that dumb UAVS shit yesterday

>>18798762
hope you loaded up yesterday

>>18798776
only 50 shares i'm afraid, they aren't paying off today i think though

>>18798763
>>18798767
One of you is not saying the truth lol

>>18798384
you had to be a massive brainlet to not be 100% cash early feb

I'm gonna be super fucked ain't I?

>Have a place I won't move out for a big while
>Doing internship netting me about 750euros/month
>all markets have crashed
Thinking of investing this monthly amount for the next 5 months or so, after Corona shares will probably skyrocket up, no? Or am I being naive.

>>18798727
The bond market is more important btw

>>18798837
10 year bull market. But that's the past, not the future :^)

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

I'm just gonna not look at the extreme red today

>>18798731
>oil and airlines
your analysis was SHIT

red pill me on STG will it rebound?

>>18798625>>18797238

>So when many people defaulted on those loans
this is the real problem
second is the leverage of the banks
third is the false rating from the rating whores

>>18798859
Reality is kicking in, you delusional faggot. We came out of a 10 year bull market, what the fuck do you think is going to happen, lmao?

BOBO ZONE

>>18798748
Why? I hold it as well and its bleeding me dry now. When are the earnings?

>>18798762
God I hope so. MRO was my only performer until premarket.

>>18798835
I'm so bad or this is rigged as fuck.

>>18798881
I'm pretty sure there isn't a single person on this board that hasn't seen the big short.

>>18798858
could you expand on that, please?

>>18798859
nothing really, just wait for jerome to wake up

>>18798866

>>18798681

>>18798878
Product tankers so NO

>>18798507
>leveraged ETF’s actually work, but they make me money so I don’t really worry about it too much
leveraged eft works long-term only when the market does make a yoyo, ie only when it goes all up, or all down>>18798320
. you will be fucked very hard if there is volatility>>18798363>>18798313

>>18798906
What goes up must come down, and we are up 170% from 2010.

Why is J Powell so based? If you just paid attention to what he did and say you would’ve 100% made a ton of money. If you switched from short to long after he announced QE you would’ve made a fortune like that Ackerman like. If you switched from long to short after his press conference the other day you would’ve made a killing too. J Powell is for the people.

>>18798941
Is QE over or what?

After getting rekt yesterday, I need to find something that'll help me go good into the weekend for a quick sell, but oil just doesn't look promising today. Everything dumped yesterday, so something will hopefully show itself as soon as the market opens

>>18798941
I need the J-man to pump my energy stocks before dropping them so my tanker stocks can moon.

>>18798930
Ah, damn. I've always wanted to invest, but am so turned off by the price you pay for simple transactions. The banks etc completely jew you, minimum of 5 euros and all that even when you're just investing 100. It feels like a scam.

>>18798941
yeah i do not get why people where surprised by the qe and buying bonds, it is all the public bankers know to do .

>>18798956
>he doesn't have a zero commission broker
The only way I'm being scammed is by 30% option spreads.

i dont think STG will rebound, why would it? lol

>>18798941
what did he say yesterdaay

>>18798969
>>he doesn't have a zero commission broker
I'm not sure we even have those in the Netherlands.

>>18798956
zero commision brokers chief

LABOUR DAY IN MY COUNTRY THE EXCHANGES ARE CLOSED SO I DON'T GET TO ADD TO MY SHORT POSITION TODAY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18798978
I feel your pain. I'm German and I can't find any place that actually allows me to WRITE options. I just want to do the wheel, man.

>>18798978
glad you're being held accountable for being dutch for once

>>18798978>>18798995

for european, ig, degiro or interactivebrokers

>>18798988
Go join us Bitcoiners. We are open 24/7. No circuit breakers either if you're a bobo.

>>18798978
grappig genoeg zat ik er ook al naar te zoeken gisteren. DEGIRO is 0.5 per trade + 0.0004 per stock. Goed voor swing trading

>>18798969
>>18798978
>>18798983
I have to pay $2.13 per trade, it sucks

>>18799016
i pay 12eur-15usd for a trade

>>18799003
Trust me, it's not us as a people (though lots suck desu), it's the ministers being dumb cows. We have stupidly high taxes, they grab money from us every way they can, we as citizens get fucked over.
>"We have low rates of unequality!" says the prime minister gleefully
Yeah because whenever you get somewhat succesful you pay over 50% taxes and working 40 hours a week barely gives you a better life than a chainsmoking single mom. Fuck this.

newfag here. i'm looking at exxon/chevron stocks. their earnings report tommorow. planning to put stocks in exxon in since its down from the coronavirus. eitherway I look at it since it's down from the coronavirus it should be good right or is that a bad rookie mistake?

>>18799031
just buy xle or vde

>>18799016
De Giro is okay but for some reason Dutch stocks cost 2 euro per transaction and US stocks about 60 cents.

What about GME?

>>18799034
>>18799025
This is the cheapest broker I have

>>18799033
Why though? I don't know these companies.

>>18798978
saxobank lads,

>>18799027
Thats why we hate the Italians and their "solidarity" bullshit. The Dutch have been paying out of the ass for decades. Everything was tuned down from education to healthcare just to keep the EU functioning. And now, when all this saving finally pays of we can give all that away to some fuckers that did fuckall for 3 decades.

Are markets even open today

This is your second February opportunity. If you're still holding bags after this your deserve it. We won't be seeing these highs for 5-10 years at least.

>>18798909
Jerome Powell cares about the stability of the treasury market not if stocks go 10 % down or not. The moves in the stock market are purely psychological.

>>18799049
Not in yourope, so I don't get quotes on my options even tho the underlying is moving. I fucking hate boomers. Just let stocks trade 24/7 like Crypto already.

>>18799015
Ik ben vrij nieuw qua termen etc, ik heb altijd interesse gehad zoals ik al zei, maar dan kijk ik bijvoorbeeld naar Rabobank waar pennytrading al euros kost vanaf stap 1. Misschien ben ik te gierig, maar voor mij ziet het er een beetje als een uphill battle uit waar je moeilijk profijt van overhoudt?

>>18799048
Our whole country runs at 70% just to save money. We get taxed 50+ at higher scales, 21% over ALL items.... You barely get to keep anything, and I'm still angry. Now with corona, I'm sure my peers and I have to pay up for all that too. I'm getting tired...

>>18799014
Are there any crypto exchanges for europeans that don't jew you with massive fees like coinbase?

>>18799031
its a good play but a more long term safer play.

>>18799064
Fun fact, In Germany the max capital gains tax is like 27% if you're clever. No matter how rich you are. Before 2009 there were zero taxes on dividends and such.

>>18799059
Jesus that is such bullshit.

>>18799049
london stock exchange, the copenhagen market and the american markets are open

>>18799048
What the difference to the US? Does the federal US government have to bail out US states if they go bankrupt? Does Texas have to bail out California?

>>18798974
why are you even here?

>>18799064
I think the fear of the Netherlands becoming the engine of Europe where people live in hovels working 80 hours a week so Italians can gamble their money away on bitcoin and gold - although an overstatement - carries a lot of truth sadly. I have given up for the EU and the bureuacratic mess up there but we are also to small to go at it alone. The next years the Netherlands will just be played by all our more powerful "brothers". And if we don't voluntarily give up our money the ECB will just adjust our interest up and that of Italy down (they actually said they would do this). This isn't a democracy anymore and the same goes for the free market as evident by the past months.

>it_is_all_so_tiresome.jpeg

>>18799064
vooral als je gaat daytraden ga je echt geen profijt draaien puur omdat idd transactiekosten voor vooral nederlandse stocks je profits stelen. Ik zou persoonlijk kijken naar amerikaanse stocks met lage transactiekosten, ben ik nu ook mee bezig

>>18799081
>zero taxes on dividends
I don't think so?

>>18799070
I use Bitstamp, but all crypto fees are bullshit. Maybe with Ethereum 2.0 decentralized exchanged will become dirt cheap, but I dunno.

>>18799057

the actual fed mandate is stable prices. jpow cares about meeting his arbitrary 2% CPI target and "full employment." but mnuchin is running things now at the fed, and takes his marching orders from trump. Trump of course, cares about nothing other than digits going up.

So it will be very interesting to see when CPI ticks up and stocks stagnate or decline, the fed and the treasury won't be on the same page anymore.

>>18799103
>>18799064
maybe we just move to austria like >>18798627

>>18799112
I said before 2009.

>will be up for 24hrs
>spy dumped from 292 to 285

>>18799123
They are in the same ship as we are. I think we will have to carry the dead weight of the eurozone for the rest of our misserable lives.

>>18799123
Austria's a beautiful cuntry, too bad even just small groups of 'local' Turks ruin it. Apart from that very white, lots of white kids etc. The only problems (and consistently too) I had there were the brownskins. Really makes you think.

>>18799100
to buy high and sell lower ofc

>>18799097

The federal government pretty much has too bail them out because the only net contributors to the federal budget are (were) the north east and california.

>>18799127
>Bei Dividenden werden nach § 43a Abs. 1 Nr. 1 EStG 25 % (bis VZ 2008 20 %) auf den vollen Betrag der Dividende (§ 43 Abs. 1 Satz 3 EStG: keine halbe Quellensteuer!) einbehalten.
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>>>/gif/16967905
hey guys

I fuckin hate having no moves to make i was so close to selling everything yesterday. Now just gotta hold forever

Reminder that it's not too late to snag SQQQ on open today for easy money. Might honestly hit 30 again, that's over 2x right there.

>>18799103
>In 2018 we paid 7 times more than we gained
Jesus, and people want to make fun of us? We're a fucking powerhouse, yet citizens get fucked over.
>ECB will just adjust our interest up and that of Italy down (they actually said they would do this)
Who exactly are the ECB? That sounds like blackmail. Do they even care about the countries anymore or just money?

>>18799150
The situation seems to be comparable to Europe. California is a net contributer? I was of a false belief because right wingers always bitch about California.

>>18797339
They buy whatever is in the news.

>>18799177
Say yes to eurobonds, bigot

>>18799177
The only Mandate the ECB has is to keep the inflation at 2% and slightly manage some macro economic shit.

But no, the ECB has become the long arm of the European government. You know, those guys you don't vote for and are selected in a backroom somewhere? It's terrible and very antidemocratic. Their far outlasted their mandate and apparently have the choice to just increase our debt over and over again.

>>18797636
nice pasta. where is it from?

It was a bull trap all along

>>18799196
Silicon Valley and Hollywood.
California has a lot of money, it's just concentrated at the top per usual.
As an average person you wouldn't know it walking around most of LA or San Fran.

>>18799177
They don't serve money they just serve the European pipe dream. These are all eurocrats that don't serve countries anymore. They are our current plutocracy and they will never ever allow that position to be compromised by the EU falling apart.

Look at Timmermans, he was a good politician when he was in the Netherlands. Sympathetic and realistic guy. Look at him now, literally dictating that the European central government should get the mandate to take control of a country if they aren't participating in the absurd and proposterus idea that we should be CO2 neutral in 2030 or something. Its absurd and these Eurocrats are so far away from the people and reality that it is getting scary.

>>18799070
Kraken is my in and out of crypto boi

>>18799196
If California were a country it would have the 6th biggest GDP in the world

>>18799220
this strategy
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-09-25/mystery-man-moving-japan-made-more-than-1-million-trades

>>18799249
The biggest bull trap in history. We are about to witness pure chaos as reality sets in all at once for every investor on Earth: there will be no v-shaped recovery and the recession is here.

>>18799218
>He doesn't vote for his eu representatives
Absolute cuck

>>18799255
We will have the United States of Europe in 10 years

>>18799285
is he an inside trader?

>>18799269
If California were a country it would collapse because there’s not enough water. There are too many homeless. Too many beaners. Too many niggers. Too many faggots.

>>18799196

Yeah, states are similar to eurozone countries, they don't control their currency they just use the dollar. California and the North East are most of the US's economy and pretty much end up funding the rest of the country and the federal government.

today is about to be a massacre inst it

>>18799303
I'm personally of the opinion EU will be remodeled. There's no reason for us to carry weight of Italy or Portugal. Germany need in EUR debt inflation is gone and they need to change aswell so there's no power that benefits from eu being the way it is and nobody cares what powerless want
I'd say EU 2.0 will be more unified but only about France to Poland kind of size (if we need polish cheap factories, we don't need their fiscal incompetence)

>>18799330
Yes

>>18799286
what are you basing this on

>>18799218
>the 2%
Wasn't it Italy and Greece etc that don't even keep up with this? Lazy fucks.

>>18799303
I mean, I notice more and more people being sick with our minister Rutte.

>>18799346
All the countries doing jackshit will demand it stays, it's very left after all to beg and not put in work.

>>18799196
Net contributor how? Look at how the statistics are made. Look at what accounts for the federal budget. Many items are military bases and infrastructure to ship food to the coasts. Always look twice when the political Jew tells you something.

could this lady on CNBC have gone any more full retard with the SJW bullshit

TURN ON CNBC
(THEY) ARE TALKING ABOUT OIL

>>18799169
Why was it down yesterday?

>>18799370
Yeah and they actually called her out on it lol

>>18799322
Wrong u absolute retard
Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Czech republic to name a few
All have their own CB with their own currency. Additionally every other country has their own fiscal policies.
>>18799353
I think the way EU handled Italy dabbing on them while Germany is doing fine shows you there's no solidarity or co-operation and no need to stay together. Also your assumption is /Pol/ tier

>>18799353
Its not Rutte thats the problem. Its not a democracy, the EU will get its way no matter what Rutte says. I actually think the Netherlands will get through this quite well and the government - including Rutte and Wopke - are doing reasonably well considering the circumstances. The problem is we are just a province in Europe and have no say in the bigger picture at all. We are just here to serve as the financial backbone of the European pipedream.

OH FUCK I'M GONNA DOOOMP

>>18799330
Maybe

Diamond support at 284

>>18799317
Cope cletus

>>18799317
Who hurt you?

>>18799413
No you don't. You can go ahead, pull Britain and stop playing victim when you're not.

>>18799317
>If California were a country it would collapse because there’s not enough water
i think this is true. if cali were its own country why would mexico or other states tolerate it taking so much water?

>>18799404
>I think the way EU handled Italy dabbing on them while Germany is doing fine shows you there's no solidarity or co-operation and no need to stay together. Also your assumption is /Pol/ tier
Expand on this?

>>18799413
>Rutte is doing reasonably well
all the NPCs I know mimic this saying, yet they can not give me arguments for it

>>18799450
>Silvio Goldenstein

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>>18799474
This is /biz/rael not /pol/ackistan

>>18799404

Sweden, Denmark, Poland are not in the eurozone... which is defined as countries that use the euro, fucking retard.

>>18799435
>Cope cletus
How do net contributors go bankrupt? Maybe because they keep giving money to their pet beaners to support their pet kike politicians. Many of the red states are negative on federal budget because of the military. Do you know how much it costs to support b1 bombers and defend ft knox? These red states are less populated. The military spending overrepresent their federal deficit.

>>18799450
I like the idea of a EU and euro. I really do. But it turned into a undemocratic monster that does more damage to "solidarity" than good. We went to fast and should have kept small going for natural growth instead of incorporating every fringe class banana state like Greece and Italy.

>>18799440
Quit being such a sheep. Use your mind. Colored people are destroying America. They should stay where they came from.

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>>18798401
Why did you baghold in this market?

>>18798401
Tell immediately. Buy TVIX, SQQQ, TZA.

>>18799285

thanks buddy, a nice read.

yes, only simple things work consistently. just follow a momentum which is in bids/asks. a position trading with stop-loses is the name of the raket.

>>18799150
>He fell for that meme

just as an example why do you think the blue states threw such a shitfit over the salt deduction being capped.

the reality was after the various federal rebates and all that shit they weren't paying more into the feds. that's why when you see various faggots parrot that shit they refer to 2018 specifically. now we can get into how the entire tax system is fucking retarded but no one wants to read my autistic screeds.