/biz/ - Business & Finance

Check out these gains today so far

Post source to OP image, homo.

>>18755194
https://www.globalresearch.ca/mit-tech-review-smears-study-proving-covid-19-overhyped/5710088

Hope you guys are buying the tanker dip

>less than .2%
Thats still pretty high

ABSOLUTELY
DELUSIONAL
PEAK

SELL NOW

Is there a term for a straddle where you have your puts and calls on different dates?

Bizbros, I bought UCO right before it had its reverse split, when should I finally unload my 18 shares? Already down 61%, just looking for a good time to exit

After initially buying in at $35 canuck bucks my AC is green again lads. And shit isn't even open yet.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa

>>18755226
That's pretty much the same as the flu

>>18755171
Overhyped or not, this shit is killing per day as much as the flu kills per month.

>>18755218
Which tankers? 50/50 DHT/NAT?

>>18755218
Why? We are opening up again, and people will start driving and flying

>all this tanker cope
Should have bought ET

Is HTZ gonna make it? I held through the crash but if they’re going bankrupt I want outta this dumpster fire. Looks like they’re asking their lenders to forgo penalties on missed payments due to wuflu

>>18755171

How is Tesla looking? I got off around 750. I think it's a good company but I'm not sure how it works in the future. I've read that their company has terrible customer service and is overly complicated when it comes to manufacturing warranty. Paint chips easily too. They're basically the Supreme of cars.

SEND YOUR ENERGY TO NAT

EPR dip buyers where we at

Hope you retards are buying the shitcoin tanker dip, this is the bottom

>>18755245
.2% would be double the death rate of the flu, so it'd be more like it kills twice as many per day as the flu does

>>18754142
Name?

Time to trigger some boomers
>b-b-bbut flu is being called corona
Yea, that x4 baseline shift relative to the previous worse recent flu on record.

>>18755245
Do you personally know ANYONE with this chinese virus?

>>18755268
way more than double. spread is significantly higher.

>>18755275
1. it's priced in

2. it really is just the flu bro we haven't even been testing yet just wait for that denominator

>>18755275
With everyone locked inside.

>>18755287
Yes.

>>18755255
I am gonna hold

>>18755252
There is a huge excess of oil still.
Do you really think that they’re gonna be able to just start moving the volumes they were prior to the shutdown right away?

>>18755245
lmao no, the total US corona deaths so far are still lower than a common flu season.

>>18755287
Yes. My Aunt's daughter got it and the sister of her bf died from it.

>>18755242
Now we have to worry about double the flu every year?

man bears are gonna seeth about this for years to come

>>18755275
it doesnt hurt that every pneumonia related death is being reported as caused by covid-19
the cdc is in on inflating the numbers

>>18755252
Yeah for about a month until the infections per day spike to 88k. Then you will see some serious shit.

>>18755272
Why? So you can go overdose on serotonin and dopamine to her? She’s getting ready to piss and you’re thinking it’s sexy? If your desires are like this it really says alot about your portfolio

>>18755316
This is why we should be allowed to destroy excess oil.

Is AMZN ER getting released pre or post market tomorrow?

Don't forget to buy today for tomorrow's Vegas announcement. Earnings also tomorrow

This is my first time experiencing a 1928-esque economic bubble

>>18755325
No, flu deaths have all but vanished because they're being reported as corona deaths, pic related.

>>18755242
>57k confirmed dead in 2 months

It’s less than the flu bro!

>>18755287
One of my coworkers died. He was 46.

>>18755306
No you fucking don’t and it’s all a big coverup for a much bigger issue, the economy. Do you live in Europe? I bet you’re one of those clapping fags

>>18755319
>still lower than a common flu season
The common flu killed 56000 people in an entire year.
Covid has killed that much in 2 months already.
Aagain, why are you people so ddesperate to downplay the actual reality you're living right now? If you're that desperate to prove it's a hoax, go get infected and see for yourself.

I wish I went in more heavy.

>>18755309
This is your last chance to get out, faggot.

>>18755319
They are just about even to a bad flu season, and that is after two months of this with most people staying inside. Unfuck yourself.

is there even going to be a second dip at this point?
this is insane

>>18755319
I agree it’s overblown but where are you getting your numbers from?

>>18755334
Still clinging unto hope, Bobo? Kinda cute, ngl

>>18755354
He had other problems it wasn’t the flu that did it

>>18755332
Hell yeah, fuck the deep state! MAGA! 4 more years!

>>18755363
>No you fucking don’t and it’s all a big coverup for a much bigger issue, the economy
Are people like this for real or are they larping as absolute smoothbrained faggots?

What's up faggots? My entire Roth IRA is up 20%+ in the past 2 weeks. S&P 500 up ~4% in the same time period. Fuck passive investing, index funds, vanguard, Reddit, and jannies

>tankers starting to climb back up
i missed the shitcoin bottom

>>18755229
Dumb bear. Kys

>tfw lost more on the way up then down
whatever, I can say that I did the morally right thing.

>>18755353
>confirmed
see >>18755350

>>18755366
>The common flu killed 56000 people in an entire year.
>Covid has killed that much in 2 months already.
The flu only peaks in a couple of weeks.

>>18755381
CDC
In 2017 for instance about 62k people died from the flu.

>>18755245
that's because of a higher infection rate.

>flu: 1 death / 1000 infected = 0.1%
>corona: 20,000 deaths / 10000000 = 0.2%

bad? well, let's just say we'd prefer to have it at all. worth shutting down everything and inflating the cost of nitrile gloves while crashing the cost of oil? i'd say no

>>18755350
that is not flu deaths.
They are actually distinct enough to tell the difference. the actual reality is People who would have gotten the flu are dieing to corona instead. It is getting cucked by a bigger better virus

>>18755379
I think so. We're at a point where tech stocks are reaching incredibly high valuations based on bad earnings.

Realistically, hedge funds don't want to buy and hold at the top and simply won't continue the trend upwards past a certain point.

>>18755353
57k deaths in 2 months WHILE MOST OF THE US IS UNDER LOCKDOWN

I don't think it's the end of the world but think about how many deaths this could have caused if we didn't do anything to slow it

>>18755214
0.12 % mortality? That would mean Italy, Spain and UK already have herd immunity. Also study isn't peer reviewed.

>>18755245
It's real but it's overstated. Feels weird talking about this stuff on /biz/ but around Thanksgiving I had an uncle in the ICU in New York City at a major hospital. I heard the nurses talking about how there was a strangely vicious viral pneumonia going around. The very next week, the whole ICU was on lockdown. Patients could not leave their rooms, everyone had on the mask, the doors to the ICU were shut and guarded and there were stands with hand sanitizer set up at the entrance.
This virus has been in the US since at the very least November and there's evidence out there that it might have been here since September. As for the spikes in deaths, many deaths were being blamed on COVID just because there was not enough testing early on and it was a way for hospitals to justify more spending. For instance in the insurance sector it's usually kind of complicated to get paid because of all the jew laws you have to navigate and you often hear about not being able to see X doctor because of insurance plans etc. Now? Forget about it, COVID WAIVER COVID WAIVER COVID WAIVER see whoever you like and they get paid. They're like us, not letting a crisis go to waste.
I know some people in the medical industry and they say this virus is real, but it's not the apocalypse and a lot of the fear is manufactured and gotten out of hand to the point where even the medical industries are fighting with each other over how real it is. But ultimately people are realizing it isn't the apocalypse and the desire to return to normalcy is outweighing their fears.

tl'dr it's not a conspiracy but not that bad and the panic is largely due to uncertainty and market incentives

>>18755287
Yeah, I know a man who died from it. He was in his 80's and had other health issues. I had been to an event with him about 4 weeks before he got the corona and died, really cool guy.

If dubs I kms

Why the fuck are markets mooning so hard?

Hahah! Fuck bobo. Bullmarket resumes. New paradigm.

>>18755415
>They are actually distinct enough to tell the difference.
They're not, actually.
What's killing people is the pneumonia.

>>18755287
I literally just got over it, shit was a joke. Like a weak flu with more weird nervous system quirks

>>18755397
Shut the fuck up you cum guzzling kike sucker. This shit is a hoax and you FUCKING know it

>>18755408
Ah I see. Well I don’t think it’s over and we’re nearly at that number so I think the 200-300k estimate is still a decent one.

>>18755350
Um no, what I said i now you can catch flu and corona every year now.

>>18755366
>>18755370
Hey retards those numbers are fake. Of you die in a car accident driving home from the hospital after testing positive for COVID-19, your death is counted in the COVID-19 numbers

>>18755417
Don't forget market makers will see there's not much momentum to the upside, so they will sell to trigger a downside to short.

>>18755226
It's not that low. Look at new york. There are 23000 deaths and it's still going up. If it's a death rate under 0.2% then basically every person in the state must have contracted it at. If it's 0.5-1% then about 10-20% of the population has had it which lines up with an antibody study they did there.

>>18755287
my dad works at nintendo
he got it

>>18755287
nope

>>18755434
Based

>>18753257
You ok buddy?

>>18755257
Just bought more.

>>18755402
Based

>>18755332
>2017-2018 flu AND pneumonia was year long with a peak at ~25 when it was considered one of the worst flu seasons on record
Baseline shift, if it existed, would be miniscule. If anything its more likely deaths aren't being recorded properly for corona. NY added 3k cases post mortem to their 20k total. And they are actively looking for it even those who have died.

>>18755444
Based and checked

>>18755401
How coincidental it had to happen right now? We already know it’s a bioweapon, just a matter of why they released it.

>>18755421
>Also study isn't peer reviewed.
pic related

>>18755433
A concoction of fomo and hopium, combined with trumpbux and boredom. At least that’s why I bought in.

>>18755422
>hundreds of thousands of dead globally
>not an issue guys... right... right?!?!?!?!

>>18755420
250,000 people die every month in the US

>>18755336
LOL. Name?

If I add more money to my profile it's like I never lost anything to start with.

>>18755454
My view on the psychology of this is
>people buy in despite bad news and think that because things are going up the bad news retroactively doesn't matter anymore
>the moment a significant sell off happens, EVERYONE panic sells because they suddenly worry if the bad news that was supposed to be priced in actually wasn't

That is how mania buying ends. I feel like we're just one major red day from the news headlines turning into how fucked we are economically

>>18755473
>If anything its more likely deaths aren't being recorded properly for corona.
Imagine being this deluded.

Doctors are literally being told to count a death as a corona death if they "suspect" it's corona.

>>18755226
yeah it's bullshit.
https://medium.com/@gidmk/what-is-the-infection-fatality-rate-of-covid-19-7f58f7c90410

>>18755350
Flu deaths have stopped because we're well outside flu season.

>>18755396
He did not. The guy was reasonable fit for a desk worker. Even if he had diabetes or something, do you say a hemophiliac died of hemophilia after they get shot in the lung? Does the shooter get away with it because maybe a normal person wouldn't have died?

>>18755498
And now corona accounts for 10% of that

>>18755420
No one near me is in lockdown and we had a protest just last week. Ton of people. Cough cough motherfucker

>>18755350
Flu is over

>>18755449
Again, you're wrong. Most Covid deaths are unreported and are being counted as ARS related deaths instead.
The death is toll is most likely HIGHER, not inflated.
I know you people desperately want to be the redpilled freethinkers but reality is what it is. This thing is airborne HIVPneumonia with an insanely high infectology rate.

>>18755512
>Flu deaths have stopped because we're well outside flu season.
No we're fucking not.

>>18755505
That’s the spirit goy

Just copped some NAT calls bros

>>18755426
He died from something else

Reminder that only tankers that pay a dividend are worth buying! Otherwise, its meme numbers and sharebuybacks that mean nothing.

>>18755443
That's like confusing you are confusing the method of death with the cause of death. This virus releases elemental iron into your blood stream and attacks the walls of your cardiovascular system. The reason people are having lung problems is because all the thin capillaries in the lungs are easily damaged. This is a whole body infection, the lungs are just the weakest part.

>bobos doubling down
your pain hasn't even begun

In this study of adult patients admitted to hospital for severe COVID-19, remdesivir was not associated with statistically significant clinical benefits.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

The Remdesivir study was a failure despite what your mainstream media is telling you.

Is this what is lifting markets today? lol peak delusion is true.

>>18755546
What does that have to do with people dying of pneumonia being counted as corona by default?

>>18755508
And if we LITERALLY had the 2017-2018 flu/pneumonia wave right now concurrently it would still account for less than a third of the reported cases.
Do you not understand charts unless its just red and green candles?

>>18755526
>This thing is airborne HIVPneumonia with an insanely high infectology rate.

>>18755557
i doubled down at open yesterday

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

Getting that MO and JPM dividend tomorrow. Then T and VZ come May 1.

>>18755498
10% of your entire monthly death toll being due to a new virus is insanely high.

EVERY THING I BUY GOES RED

>We open
>Second wave hits
>we say fuck it and stay open
>infections skyrocket again
>more deaths than first wave
>continue to ignore until hospitals are closing down
NOTHING BURGER

>>18755287
Yes, a member of my church died from it.

>>18755563
This isn't about candles, it's about pneumonia deaths being counted as corona by default.

Retards are buying Gildan instead of Gilead...

bulls on parade

>>18755526
lmao you're either a huge cuck or this is some good b8

>>18755512
How the fuck do you know? Did you see the med data? No, he died of something else. Sorry for your loss

>>18755171
YOU BOUGHT THE DIP, DIDNT YOU??? DONT TELL ME YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOTS THAT PANIC SELLS WHENEVER THE PRICE DUMPS... I HAVE BAD NEW FOR YOU ANON, YOURE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT WITH TRADING. YOU ARE SELLING ME YOUR BAGS AND IM MAKING THE PROFIT

>>18755557
What if I told you I feed on the pain?

>>18755561
If it is the leading cause of pneumonia and we don't have enough testing, what do you suggest? The world isn't shiny, clean and perfect like you imagine.

>>18755526
Yes, the hospitals that receive aid based on their reported number of covid-19 deaths are totally under reporting because they're shy and they don't like money

>>18755508
I love the dipshit quotation marks "suspect" Well, they're doctors, so I would think that if they suspect that a patient is suffering from a virus, its probably a pretty educated assumption. What a fucking tool.

>>18755557
>your pain hasn't even begun
well your correct on that Im ultranumb

>>18755255
Im selling as soon as i reach what i paid. And i only have a few shares.
Fuck HTZ

>>18755508
Hahaha, stupid libtards falling for virus HOAX, it’s literally just the flu!

Any other Boglehead investors on /biz/?

>>18755565
Any other reaction images to post before you go lick elevator buttons to prove it's all a conspiracy, my little smoothbrain?

FRO messing up my massive sea of green (jnug is forgiven since it's crabbing between green and red)

>>18755236
Help me bizbros, this bag is getting heavy

I can hold onto it if it'll eventually regain, is there any hope of that happening for UCO?

>>18755589
"Hello? Yes is this the based department?"

>>18755542
Strike price?

>>18755480
0.5 is over 4 times higher than 0,12. 0,5 - 1 % percent mortality rate was presumed from the start. At least that is what they told is in my country in Feb/March

>>18755543
He got COVID, contracted severe pneumonia, ended up on a ventilator, and died a few days later. Seems like the prototypical case of COVID-19 in an 80 year old man who had other health issues.

>>18755561
Lmao, no. Deaths are undercounted if you actually look at general deaths data.

>>18755526
>>>/x/

>>18755402
The only reason why Warren Buffett recommends average investors buy into index funds is because he realizes most people, as evidenced by /biz/ 90% of the time, will otherwise just gamble on meme stocks, penny stocks, and companies on the verge of bankruptcy.

>>18755581
I'm going to pull numbers out of my ass as an example here. If the average rate of patients with pneumonia is 1%, and now we're seeing that on average 10% of patients have pneumonia. Then you can easily attribute that rate to the virus. This isn't misattribution.

>>18755610
>blue states
unironically bullish

Post your dead bobo pics. V shaped recovery FUCKERS!!!
Traitors get the rope. MAGA

>>18755287

I have it

Doing pretty well, I study as normal and take several walks every day. My body protests hard if I do weight-training but aside from that it's fine.

Got a slight cough but not too bad.

>>18755580
He had another illness

>>18755575
buy SPX
>>18755610
one justafluer told me these numbers are fabricated, whos laughing now?!

>>18755184
Impressive, lets see Paul Allen's gains

>>18755584
TLSA always moons when TSLA does.
We should keep our eyes open for shit like this.
Lots of money to be made with tards.

>>18755507
The "priced in" meme is false. Market are irrational and overstate and understate reality all the time.

>>18755287
Yeah my cousin in NY died from it.

What you dumb niggers can't understand, is that if we treat this seriously and address it with proper funding and precautions, retards will say we overreacted. Then, since we didn't react quickly enough, things have spiraled out of control and we're seeing hospitals completely overwhelmed.

>>18755642
i wish i had buffett's bankroll to gamble with

When will bears learn that stocks only go UP!!!
MAGA FUCKERS

>>18755616
It’s a conspiracy, look behind the curtains

>>18755605
>I love the dipshit quotation marks "suspect"
Well of course.
No test, no confirmation.

Imagine being a voodoo witch doctor-tier retard like you, having faith in doctors using their wet finger to determine cause of death.

>>18755624
>0.5 is over 4 times higher
That's with doctors reporting general pneumonia deaths as corona.

>>18755636
Doctors are literally being told to count deaths as corona if they "suspect" it.

>>18755686
>When will bears learn that stocks only go UP!!
when they stop going down (so far they did not)

Why is the most liberal country in the world (Sweden) remaining completely open and not locking down anything?

>>18755508
You ever heard of excess mortality?

>>18755680
the Y2K dilemma. Personally, while bad for the market I maintain we sacrifice America too juxapose the difference of preventive methods v.s. nothing.

>>18755704
>answers his own question

>>18755686
haha green benis ::::DDDDDDDDDDDD

>>18755704
Because it works.

>>18755709
Deaths per year always swing pretty wildly.
Also, I'm not saying corona hasn't killed anyone lol

>>18755632
Yeah he had severe pneumonia, right now the WHO are reporting everyone who dies with multiple diseases and corona virus strictly have the corona virus dominate the recessive viruses but thats false.

>>18755434
>New paradigm.
YOURE GOING TO FUCKING JINX IT

>>18755704
because they know that the people who matter will quarantine themselves anyways
meanwhile the muzzies have rampant infection rates

>>18755704
To kill off pensioners.

Did you guys buy the dip?

Bought 10 contracts at the exact bottom. Holy fuck.

God DAMN I love this market

>>18755680
Cuomo get off 4chan we aren't bailing your stupid-ass out

>>18755680
Imagine if the US shut down all travel to the US back in January as a precaution while the world around it burned, while the US ended up having zero cases. I can't even imagine how fucking high stocks would have gone.

>>18755709

>>18755656
It’s literally placebo, you probably always had it and probably didn’t know

>Gilead Sciences said the preliminary results of a trial for its antiviral drug remdesivir showed 50% of coronavirus-positive patients treated with a five-day dosage saw conditions clinically improve in 10 days, and more than half were discharged from the hospital within two weeks.

LMAO IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING

>Gilead Sciences said the preliminary results of a trial for its antiviral drug remdesivir showed 50% of coronavirus-positive patients treated with a five-day dosage saw conditions clinically improve in 10 days, and more than half were discharged from the hospital within two weeks.

LMAO IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING

>Gilead Sciences said the preliminary results of a trial for its antiviral drug remdesivir showed 50% of coronavirus-positive patients treated with a five-day dosage saw conditions clinically improve in 10 days, and more than half were discharged from the hospital within two weeks.

LMAO IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING

>Gilead Sciences said the preliminary results of a trial for its antiviral drug remdesivir showed 50% of coronavirus-positive patients treated with a five-day dosage saw conditions clinically improve in 10 days, and more than half were discharged from the hospital within two weeks.

LMAO IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING

>>18755610
leftists dying is a positive for humanity

yikes

>>18755346
babys first bubble awww how cute :3

>>18755704
They actually have put in a lot of restrictions pertaining to social distancing limiting people in certain places etc. bit of a meme that they are business as usual

>GME up to $6
FUCKING GAMESTOP!!!!

At least I made some money on my put while I could.

YES, RETURN TO NORMAL!!! LETS GOOOO

>>18755715
Sweden already opened their anuses for that example. Let that shithole fall already and avoid having a nation 100x as populous and relevant share the same fate.

TSLA is going to tank in the last 10 minutes of today.
Heads up anons.

>>18755449
Yeah all those care accidents are really pumping up the death count

>>18755680
Dude they are literally filling hospitals with maannequins and filming it, they are not overcrowded because twitter whore posted a picture of herself with sweat on her head

>>18755744
>comparing to "average"

L M A O

>>18755757
Haha source?

>>18755171
Was it really this easy for China to crash our economy with a psyop?

>>18755214
>more dead than 9/11
>more people showing up emergency rooms for respiratory distress than can be reasonably treated in some nations.
>overhyped

can you faggots shut up? how do you know the quarantine or access to ICU wasn't directly responsible for lower overall lethality?

>>18755616

These corona prevention measure probably saved more lives by preventing fucking car accidents than because of the stupid virus

>>18755757
bullish

>>18755694
Yeah, they suspected something, doesn't require quotation marks, because that's what they literally did, its not like they are apart of a conspiracy and lying, they suspected the cause of a death. The quotation marks entail false claims, "Having faith in doctors to determine the cause of death" Yep, that's me, probably a pretty safe thing to trust too. Like I said, they are doctors, so yes, I'm going to trust what they claim is a patient suffering from a virus more than some imbecile on 4chan spouting shit on SMG when hes probably never made over 1k profit in the market. Getthe fuck out of here.

Good time to invest in Blue Apron? It's down 23

>>18755709
>exponential growth

>>18755784
Lmao at this schizo posting.

>>18755704
Sweden speedrunning to the top of the leaderboards
>just past Ireland
>Isle of Man is next

>>18755530
Peak is January and February. Flu deaths considerably lower in March.

>>18755790
https://www.gilead.com/news-and-press/press-room/press-releases/2020/4/gilead-announces-results-from-phase-3-trial-of-investigational-antiviral-remdesivir-in-patients-with-severe-covid-19

>>18755363
I live in the midwest and two members from my family's church were diagnosed with it. A friend of mine from college who lives in another state told me his family doctor was diagnosed with it in March and died a few weeks ago.

But yeah, it's all fake to take down Trump because he was running the country perfectly until this pesky chinese flu happened. Believe in Q-Anon and buy boomer rocks!!!

now that the crisis is over and SP500 is going to $3200 what stocks would you recommend?

NOTHING BURGER CONFIRMED
DOW TO $30K END OF MAY

>>18755782
Yeah but if you’re 90 years old and obese and die of a heart attack, you’re counted as a covid death too so long as you have the antibodies

>>18755801
so it was a net boon? cool. maybe this will encourage less driving in the future as well.

>>18755576

Not really, herd immunity son.

>>18755795
hey bro sorry I came in your girlfriend again I know our bull-cuck contract says condoms but it was a great night dude sorry

>>18755694
Nah, you are not looking at the facts but trying to justify your own narrative.

1. Only few states report "suspected" deaths. You can see the number is faily low on those states who report it
2. Overall death rate is up 50% more than current corona cases explain, this is despite the fact that there is a fraction of accidents ect occuring.
3. You could try make a claim that states who have more cases receive more support, but there is no incentive for anyone to report more deaths than real
4. "Suspect" means there is clear evidence that corona was the reason, but the person did not die in a hospital environment

>>18755737
(Unrealized)
just like your potential

>>18755218
Tanker stock is a short play. What do you think is going to happen when they don't need the tankers anymore. They arnt going to need to store a bunch of oil forever.

>GME
this shitcoin aight. thanks burry

>>18755795
>>more dead than 9/11
A ton of pneumonia deaths are being counted as corona by default.

>>18755807
It's fine for them to suspect corona.
It's another entirely when official stats are based on their suspicions rather than tests.

>>18755744
>Sweden
>No precautions
>significantly lower than many other countries
>going downwards as well

Yeah, just as I suspected, a very very virulent disease which affects the very old more extremely. Because it's so virulent, it peaks fast and lockdown does almost nothing to contain it because of that. Nearly the world crashed it's economy because of it. What a fucking joke.

>>18755822
protestant or catholic church?

>>18755812
Hospitals are also fudging their numbers to get more money from the government.

>>18755795
> how do you know the quarantine or access to ICU wasn't directly responsible for lower overall lethality?
only way to truly find out is open it all up and let it rip. Just keep the borders closed. Time 'murricans put money where their mouth is and take one for science.

>>18755530
The flu season is usually over by the beginning of March in the northern hemisphere. The whole season is defined as October to May, but each year it shifts around and only lasts about eight weeks in that window. This year it started around the end of December and slowed sharply in March.

>>18755757
Yes, its nothing. The Lancet publication today even clearly says:
In this study of adult patients admitted to hospital for severe COVID-19, remdesivir was not associated with statistically significant clinical benefits.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

>>18755823
PSX TOT ENB EPD FANG COP

>>18755778
Priced in. The shock from F missing huge on earnings and projecting billions in losses for Q2 has already been digested and the market doesn't give a shit. All automakers can now post huge losses and take on massive debt loads with no worries about hurting their stock price.

>>18755694
"Witch doctors" You mean medical doctors with phds and trnures right?

>>18755675
>rational markets

>>18755853
>Comparing Sweeden where they already culturally practice social distancing to 'Merica.
Good luck with that.

>>18755822
Dumb fucking bear

>>18755287
One dude. I work in a prison, supposed to be a epidemiology hot spot for virus but out of the hundreds of people I know only one dude.

>>18755757
So...how is that any better or worse than the general population?

>>18755795
Back to r*ddit, dumb bobo. Thank you for the cheapies.

>>18755838
>1. Only few states report "suspected" deaths.
Reporting suspected corona deaths is a CDC guideline.
That means federal.

>>18755873
All the phds and tenures in the world does not make their suspicions conclusive.

>>18755331
Yeah and kikes will not be able to seethe since they will be extinct

>>18755870
How does it digest something with out taking a shit?

>>18755822
Look dude you gotta look at life and aask yourself who runs the country and who is really doing the fighting. Something tells me you are not aryan and if you are you must have severely depleted your testosterone.

also no one brought up Qanon but he hasn’t been wrong

>>18755743
You're just jelly I have sexier nipple rings

>>18755742
We'd have had a true golden bull run instead of this nonsense.

>>18755784
What mannequins? Why not listen to the nurses and doctors working at the hospitals instead of whatever conspiracy nut you let shit in your ear.

I told you to buy TMDX time and time again, anons.

>>18755809
Never is a good time to invest in Blue Apron.
Their customer acquisition costs are dependant on somebody staying signed up for 3 - 4 months.
Only roughly 15% of people do so. Most try it out and stop.
If they can't make money during Corona, they never will.

>>18755832
>Herd immunity in 2 months
Thats why we have herd immunity from cold and flu, right retard? Oh, your just spewing buzzwords the tv guy said.

>PTE 750% upside
Is this a meme? How sketchy are biotech companies

>>18755850
>A ton of pneumonia deaths are being counted as corona by default.

No shit? literally one of the clinical findings to diagnose COVID-19 is literally pneumonia or image opacities in the lungs. where the fuck do you think those "dead" were getting pneumonia? I find it extremely unlikely the majority of counted individuals were counted as a victim of SARS-CoV-2 by mistake.

>boomers in this very thread can't understand death rate data from corona
>boomers in general again falling for another Gilead pump and dump with a study with no controls
Why do Boomers hate hard data so much?

>>18755814

yeah because we reach herd immunity faster. Once everything is said and done every country will have suffered about the same.

Except for America, you are incredibly fat so you will suffer worse.

>>18755823
My portfolio will be 25% KOS 25% HLX 30% Shell (sweet sweet dividends) and 25% XOM

>>18755823
DAMN

>>18755881
don't all europeans make out with each other as a greeting

>>18755907
my average is at ~17
chilling

>>18755445

Today lovely market, I got jewed so hard. Cannot describe my monetary loss.

But at least, money wont matter and the next generation will be utterly fucked.

>>18755814
Netherlands has some of the strictest policies regarding corona, and their doing very very similar to swedens numbers. What a joke.

>these are the people you take stock tips from
>they know about as much about markets as they do viruses
think next time before you listen to anyone here.

>>18755455
Yeah, but the problem is that they are reporting every death as a covid 19 death, because it's tied to government aid. So if some 90 year old has a heart attack, they report it as a Covid death. If some chronic asthma patient with diabetes and cancer dies, they report it as Covid. If some gang banger gets shot in the hood, they report it as Covid.

I FELL FOR THE TANKER MEME
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18755896
The last time I kept seeing these specific happener wojaks were posted was right before the big dump, kek. Correlation or causation?

>>18755927
pneumonia =/= corona

>>18755870
hyperinflation will wipe out the debt. look at venezuela and zimbabwean stocks. clown world

>>18755929
20% XOM*

>>18755526
DEATH TO ISRAEL KIKE

>>18755938
this. No difference
>>18755770
I only see one line.

Anyone apart of any options trading groups?

>>18755928
because it's all about financial engineering masses into buying your bags. With computers it's easier than ever to drain these fuck tards.

>>18755903
Because women are incompetent and completely exaggerate things or just rationalize the work being too difficult when in reality they are just useless. I guarantee if we had only men working they wouldn’t even break a sweat. Also the hospitals literally see someone with a coof and then they are already marking them down for corona virus

S&P 4000 minimum this summer

>>18755900
The market is a woman. Women don't shit.

>>18755726
>Deaths per year always swing pretty wildly.
No

>>18755686
D E A T H
T O
I S R A E L

>>18755957
>hyperinflation
>where velocity of money is near 0 and we are fighting deflation
Care to show your math?

>>18755929
I want to buy more KOS but if I do then it will go back down to $1

>>18755935
Go be a schizo somewhere else

>bought 150 CCL at $8
>fucking doubled my money already
Holy shit I actually did it right. I did zero research and just bought my first stocks on the opinion of one anon, thanks bro.

Is it too late to go more in atm.

>>18755832
Herd immunity starts at around 80% immune. We're at like 10% right now, and in a few months there'll be another serotype or two blowing about.
There's a reason why we've never been able to vaccinate against rhinovirus and coronavirus.

>>18755954
COVID-19 is the disease caused by SARS-2 dipshit, and with it, pneumonia is a rare and potentially fatal component of it. Where else are people getting it from? Black mold? influenza (which they can easily test for and treat with various antivirals)?

>>18755941
You believe what you want to

>>18755938
>>18755967
>Netherlands has some of the strictest policies regarding corona
The Netherlands started later with restrictions than Belgium, and always had laxer restrictions than Belgium.

Yet Belgium's mortality rate per 1M is three times higher than the Netherlands'.

>>18755812
Hi kike

>half the thread is desperate bobos trying to justify why they shorted the bottom
>the other half is tanker tards only now discovering tankers inverse oil during a contango

>>18755902
>Look all these deaths are fake, it's just pneumonia.
>Also this is a bioweapon
>no one you know died from wuflu, it was something else! I know this even though I'm not even in the same timezone as the purported death and just a random boomer that believes in a fucking LARP
I wish I could short you.

>>18755844
>>18755686
Bought 3 days ago and just sold after making a cool 5k profit. I was going for 6 in the long run but Q1 rallied more than expected and I was anticipating the dump. Long story short, it's obviously mooning right now and I'm looking a another thousand dollars I won't make because I couldn't hodl and stay the course. Just wanted to say I'm happy for you guys who did, and I'm fighting against the urge to get greedy because I know that as soon as I buy more stock, it'll go down.

>>18756024
I don't get it....

>>18756026
tru

>>18755524
Please keep hanging out in large groups and frequently french kiss. Refuse medical assistance when you get sick. It's a hoax

>>18756029
Quick reminder that this is this kind of schizos that are into and make this bullrun.

SPY near pre-corona levels
why don't we just skip the formalities and push to 400 in a single day tomorrow, put one in the history books for ol' orange man

>>18755983
>No
Yes.

2013: 43k flu deaths in the US
2017: 62k flu deaths in the US

>>18756026
bobo index is dropping fast, def not at 50 rn

>>18756002
You could buy in today and 3x your money if you are patient enough

We're not going to dump before close, right?

>Keep hearing new normal on CNBC & Fox Business

>>18756026
>half the thread is desperate bobos
Bobo here, the bobo count is sparse. keep on with the hopeium.

DO I BUY? I WANT TO BUY BUT I WANT TO WAIT FOR A DIP FUUUUUCK

>>18755907
Next time dont say
>buy x
But instead explain why x is a good buy

uh gasoline went from 1.03$ to 1.40$ this morning
wtf is going on

I'm so fucking pissed. Today is free money.

>>18756005
>COVID-19 is the only cause for pneumonia right now!!!

This is your brain on doomerism.

>>18756045
Even if you can time the short squeezes and market irrationality, why the fuck would someone buy into these boomer delusions when guys like Buffet are holding cash.

>>18756008
maybe it's because Belgians (especially the walloons) make out with each other as a standard greeting, while the dutch are naturally a little more distant

>>18756059
no one knows what will occur

>>18755402
post positions fag

>>18756029
If the kikes say there is a flu there is no flu

If the kiles don’t say there is a flu then there is a flu

That fucking simple

>>18755171
>WE NEED THE WAGIES TO GET INTO THE CAGIES RIGHT AWAY
>TELL THEM ITS JUST THE FLU
imagine believing this

>>18756076
Speaking of papa Buffet, do we know what he's doing right now? It's been months since I read about him. Did he invest the cash he was holding since months, or is he still holding?

>>18756066
same here i having fucking 20k at the ready but everything is ATH every single day.

>>18755287

My obese 40yr sister with a bad thyroid, smokers lungs, etc, and her kids got it. Recovered no problem. Her boyfriend tho took a bit longer and had a real hard time breathing properly. Fine now tho.

>>18756090
i think he's working out deals.

>>18756075

bacterial pneumonia is not lethal, it's easily treatable. Pneumonia from COVID-19 is incredibly dangerous.

>>18756043
Keep staying inside like the good pittle goy you are

>>18756075
are you just retarded or something?

maybe read the last part of my post, and even then, there is a surge in people with pneumonia and other lung related findings RIGHT NOW. where are these faggots getting it from? gee, maybe it's coming from this novel virus that's similar to the first SARS-CoV virus called SARS-CoV-2.

>>18756063
>the bobo count is sparse
this thread is doomer bobo country

Just look at all the doomers I triggered with my OP.

>>18755853
Sweden didn't take no precautions, they just didn't shit everything down. And their populace isn't dumb enough to injest bleach and blame 5G for the virus so they adhered to the precautions they did take.

>>18756059
nah I have no idea what the fuck is gonna happen, so I just HODL. Don't need to touch any money for a few years anyway.

>GDP -4.8%
>JP Morgan is predicting 40% GDP loss second quarter
>Goldman predicting -34%
>10YR -3%
>2YR -6%

>stonks +2.8%

more bullish news coming through
be fearful when other are greedy

>>18756121
Gay and Priced In

>>18756090
>papa Buffet
fuck back off to r*ddit.com

>>18756095
Just put down 5k and forget about it for a month and see where things are. Time in the market > timing the market

>>18755850
Literally every disease estimate is done the same way. You can't actually confirm every case because there's no way to test that many people.

They said swine flu had 10x more deaths than confirmed, that's just how it works

>>18756059
Of course we will. The question is do we dump to +2% or +0%. The former is extremely bullish and the latter is extremely bearish.

>>18756071
I have explained it in painstaking detail multiple times, newfag. Check the archives, kek.

>>18756075
How... do you think Covid 19 kills people? Do you think it puts a pillow on their face one night?

>>18756090
They sold their airline stocks and bought out a pension fund, still seem to be holding lots of cash...

>>18755986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONiz3DtLCI8

>INTC
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DO SOMETHING AMD

>>18756121
When does Jerome talk today?

>>18755996
Sloppy job mossad

>>18756153
>>18756153
>>18756153
>>18756153
new thread

>>18756066
MGM. Vegas baby. Opens tomorrow. Nobody is listening

>>18756107
>COVID-19 is the only cause for non-bacterial pneumonia right now!!

>>18756110
>there is a surge in people with pneumonia and other lung related findings RIGHT NOW
Source?

>>18756144
>How... do you think Covid 19 kills people?
With pneumonia.
Why do you ask?

>>18756026
bobo here, I'm holding cash and long term 3% CDs.

options trading as an individual investor is for tards.

>>18756088
Any excuse to not work, eh commie?

>>18756115
looks like its under 5?

>>18755287
My mom had a coof and was feeling sick for a few days but is fine now, was too scared to get tested for corona.

What Im amazed at is my dad. 71, HEAVY smoker, pretty damn sedentary (though still has a good body because he was a competitive swimmer for decades), goes out to the store, to the fucking doctors office for a checkup, just continues on like normal, and not so much as a coof (more than usual anyway). I thought he would have been dead by now.

>healthy people unaffected by the disease
>fat fucks and boomers have a 1/3 mortality rate
China has saved the United States with this chimera virus.

>>18756090
Last I heard, he's bought a ton of dividend paying stocks. It's that + cash.

>>18756190
Read the thread.

AAAAA C'MON REBOUND YOU FUCKER

Honestly Im disappointed in memericans during COVID fiesta
First they dont do anything while China is locking down province after province
Then they are incapable of managing case inflow
Then they overcuck themselves with some totalitarian regimes not seen in sensible Euro area
Then they go full suicidal after losing 20M jobs

I honestly cant come up with shittier crisis control, even Italy looks better since theyre retarded from the start

>>18756081
Warning these positions may be too based for you're average investor

>>18756147
He only sold a "little bit" of delta, and he did this becuase when he orginaly got it he got mroe of a percenatge than he wanted

>>18755229
Nah. My positions have entered the flash crash levels from March where there was indescriminate selling causing sizeable gaps. None have approached old support/new potential resistance yet, except DOO, which is attempting V reversal and sliced through that possible resistance with ease.

>>18756149
lol YouTube was a mistake.

>>18756198
I'll move to the new one. I still count only a small handful of bobos

Oil/Energy anons whats your positions?

40 OKE for that natty gas and dividend
27 TOT because France has all of that African oil
20 RDS.B because the Dutch are cool
30 RTX because its guaranteed to raise the price of oil.

Am I gonna make it

>>18755402
Index options are cool

>>18756241
This thread is absolutely teeming with bobos still clinging to muh corona doom.

Remember when they said there were going to be tons of millions of corona deaths because muh 10% kill rate and airborne HIV infection rates?

>>18756121
Negative earnings coming soon faggot

>>18755214
>globalresearch.ca
>The Global Research website was established on the 9th of September 2001, two days before the tragic events of September 11. Barely a few days later, Global Research had become a major news source on the New World Order and Washington’s “war on terrorism”.
Oh. It's one of those sites.

>>18755287
my old faggot neighbor died of it.

>>18756250
5 XOM
10 HAL
80 KOS
50 MRO
10 RDSB

>>18755570
SHARE EX-DATES!
NOT THE FUCKING PAY DATES

Dividend pigeons are retarded.

>>18756291
Which means the price will pump more. AAAHHH YYEEEEAAAHHHHHHH.
When will you morons get it? V shape recovery.

>>18756008
Netherlands strict? Nigga, I am sitting in public transport right now next to other people on my way back from office. I can't go to a bar or restaurant and can't get a haircut. That's about it.

for anyone who cares...

when the antibody test for coronavirus is widely available and cheap/free, its going to show basically that the mortality rate is less than half a percent and we shut down the entire economy when we should have just isolated high risk individuals and practiced social distancing, hand washing and mask wearing.

>>18755743
Takeout commifornia seattle and ny from usa gdp and ull be fucking 3rd world

>>18756341
>Netherlands strict?
No I'm saying the opposite.

Us Belgians were already confined to our cucksheds while dutchies were having bbqs and open-air festivals n shit.

>>18756250
2800 OKE
450 XOM
10000 MRO
2300 GLOP
200 SHLX
6150 DHT
1200 OMP

you'll make it

>>18756329
I don't care about ex dates, i care about pay dates. i'm not trading stocks, i'm long term investing and purchasing prior to the ex date for one more divvy payout is not part of my strategy. want ex dates? make your own calendar

>>18756205
nice one man. looks like you're gonna keep making $$

>>18756358
Don't they also have the most debt?

>>18756352
Random testing as done in some asian countries yields the same results as antibody testing. I don't get this meme like it dawned on no retard you can do random samples.

>>18756289
>it's april
>we can't even test that many people
corona is only the catalyst. from what i can tell, real bears don't give a shit about the virus. It's the margins, debt, buybacks, and leverage. no wonder you think there's a lot of bobos. under a month of shutdown and earnings are slipping. Who knows, line goes up, line goes down. 2018/2019 prices? I'll wait for line to go down to buy more. Otherwise i'll enjoy my cash.

>>18756049
Go to CDC website and check how many actual deaths they recorded.

Protip: They actually tested only 200k positive influenza cases, and extrapolated that to 30 million cases. Similar extrapolation for deaths.

>>18756443
Extrapolation works when you have decades of data to rely on.

>>18756289
No I don't remember that. Did an infographic tell you that's what was being reported?

Is eToro fine? I keep seeing ads for it/

>>18756250
CVX - 23.257 shares
PSX - 28.296 shares
NEE - 4 shares (new position)

might add a new position but I'd like to fill these up to about $5K a piece before adding a new energy position

>>18756268
Not as cool as flipping deep OTM XOM calls for $350 in 2 days in your Roth IRA.

>>18756383
>2800 OKE

OKE bro how's that dividend going since they kept it the same as previous payouts. Also should we be worried that OKE will lose production/money as a lot of those basins they work in are shale basins?

>>18756462
the data scientist has logged and and forgetten the law of large numbers

>>18756465
>No I don't remember that.
Then let me be the first to welcome you to /biz/, newfag.

>>18756352
>we should have just isolated high risk individuals and practiced social distancing, hand washing and mask wearing

The thing is you can't do that without shutting down the economy because we live in a country of boomers, niggers, and retards

Biz anons who buy foreign shares how does an ADR fee work (TD ameritrade user here)?

Do they just withhold a certain amount of the dividend payment to you?

>>18756352
I'm torn on this.
There are also quite a lot of data that the number of deaths are being just as underreported as the number of cases.

>>18756121
Temporary. You fundamentals anons keep making the mistake of equating corona impact numbers to recession numbers. This is a unique situation and the market is trading on expected swift recovery. It may or may not be as swift as expected and market sentiment will adjust in future in that regard as needed.

>>18756481
expensive if you have money for IB, great if youre beginner

>>18756616
The market isn't rational.

>>18756616
this. job loss claims are mostly temporary. every bar and restaurant worker will likely go back to work and get bukubucks once bars and restaurants open again. employers laid them off so they can collect unemployment insurance because they've been working and paying into it.

we're going to have one bad quarter of data and then a uberpump so high my dick will produce its own viagra

DOW 40K in 2025

I was wrong with my DOW 27K end of April when we were at the bottom, but ~25K aint bad

>>18756616
>You fundamentals anons keep making the mistake of equating corona impact numbers to recession numbers.
t. gone blind circa 2018

>>18756729
This is a bit too bullish. We will see some of this, but lots of restaurants won't make it and new ones won't appear instaneously. Some won't get enough business to even open let alone full staff under social distancing restrictions.

>>18756729
>every bar and restaurant worker will likely go back to work
tons of restaurants will never open their doors again, and the idea that all their displaced staff will suddenly find new jobs because the lockdown is ended is asinine

>>18755828
wow that would explain why there are so many more deaths than usual
Thanks anon!

>>18755857
>Every hospital in the world is in on it
I mean a real virus just wouldn't make sense, that must be it

>>18756106
>implying schlomo doesn't want you to risk your life to go back to work for him

>>18755832
What about people that got it twice?

>>18756506
Oh so you got your assblasted in some off-topic thread and are still offended about it. Makes sense.

>>18757038
they suck at developing antibodies

>>18757135
Man, there must be a lot of people that suck at developing antibodies since the flu still exists.

>>18757188
It's a game of cat and mouse. The virus mutates to overcome the gained immunity. Do you even science?

>>18755171
Why the hell is NCLH up an additional 23% today?
Makes no sense.

>>18757223
clown market

>>18757245
I'll be selling my bag at 1% gain. Not gonna sit on this lame duck for 2 years.

>>18756843
>>18756831
>>18756729
Long TAP BUD