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Introduction

Bitcoin (BTC) Stock-to-Flow (S2F) model was published in March 2019 [1].

The original BTC S2F model is a formula based on monthly S2F and price data. Since the data points are indexed in time order, it is a time series model. This model has activated quantitative analysts around the world. Many have verified the non-spurious relationship between S2F and BTC price

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>>18722412
If you are not familiar with the S2F model, I highly recommend reading the original article because it explains background and terminology.

In this article I solidify the basis of the current S2F model by removing time and adding other assets (silver and gold) to the model. I call this new model the BTC S2F cross asset (S2FX) model. S2FX model enables valuation of different assets like silver, gold and BTC with one formula.

First, I will describe the concept of phase transitions, because it introduces a new way of thinking about BTC and S2F. It explains why S2FX model is important.

Second, I will describe S2FX model, how it works and what the results mean.

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>>18722412
>>18722435
Phase Transitions

Phase transitions are an important perspective in understanding S2FX model. During phase transitions, things get totally different properties. Transitions are often discontinuous. Three examples of phase transitions are:

Water
US Dollar
BTC

Water
The classic example of phase transitions is water. Water exists in four different phases (states): solid, liquid, gas, ionized. It is all water, but water has totally different properties in each phase.
US Dollar
Phase transitions are also present in finance. For example the US Dollar has transitioned from gold coin (One dollar = 371.25 grains of pure silver = 24 grains of gold), to paper backed by gold (“In gold coin payable to the bearer on demand”), to paper backed by nothing (“This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private”). Although we keep calling Dollar, Dollar has totally different meaning in these phases.

BTC
Same is true for BTC. Nic Carter and Hasu show in their 2018 study how BTC narratives changed over time [6].

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>>18722412
>>18722435
>>18722446
These BTC narratives seem very continuous in the chart. However, if we combine the narratives with financial milestones (and later S2F and price data), they look very much like phases with more abrupt transitions:

“Proof of concept” -> after Bitcoin white paper [7]
“Payments” -> after USD parity (1BTC = $1)
“E-Gold” -> after 1st halving, almost gold parity (1BTC = 1 ounce of gold)
“Financial asset” -> after 2nd halving ($1B transactions per day milestone, legal clarity in Japan and Australia, futures markets at CME and Bakkt)

These three examples of phase transitions in water, US Dollar and BTC offer a new perspective on BTC and S2F. It is important to not only think in term of continuous time series but also in phases with abrupt transitions. In developing S2FX model, I see BTC in each phase as a new asset, with totally different properties. A logical next step is identifying and quantifying BTC phase transitions.
BTC S2F Cross Asset (S2FX) Model

The chart below shows the monthly BTC S2F and price data points used in the original S2F model. One can visually identify four clusters.

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>>18722412
>>18722435
>>18722446
>>18722460
These four clusters could indeed indicate phase transitions.

Quantifying these clusters can be done by minimizing distance between monthly BTC data and clusters. I use a genetic algorithm (minimizing absolute distance) to quantify four clusters. Future research could focus on different clustering algorithms (e.g. K-nearest neighbors algorithm).

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>>18722412
>>18722435
>>18722446
>>18722460
>>18722477
Each of the four identified BTC clusters has a very different S2F-market value combination that seems to be consistent with halvings and changing BTC narratives.

BTC “Proof of concept” (S2F 1.3 and market value $1M)
BTC “Payments” (S2F 3.3 and market value $58M)
BTC “E-Gold” (S2F 10.2 and market value $5.6B)
BTC “Financial asset” (S2F 25.1 and market value $114B)

Like water and US Dollar these four BTC clusters represent four different assets, each with different narrative and characteristics. BTC "Proof of concept" with S2F 1.3 and only $1M market value is a totally different asset than BTC "Financial asset" with S2F 25 and $114B market value.

With the phase transition perspective of BTC clusters as different assets, I can now add other assets like silver and gold to the model. This makes it a real cross asset model. For silver and gold I use stock and flow numbers from recent analysis by Jan Nieuwenhuijs [8] and ultimo December 2019 prices from TradingView.

5. Silver S2F 33.3 and market value $561B

6. Gold S2F 58.3 and market value $10,088B

>> No.18722513

>>18722412
>>18722435
>>18722446
>>18722460
>>18722477
>>18722502
The chart shows the four quantified BTC clusters (plus the original BTC monthly data for context), silver and gold. They form a perfect straight line.

I use regression analysis to make the S2FX model. Note that a big difference with the original S2F model is that I use silver and gold S2F and market value data in the regression analysis. S2FX model shows a significant relationship between S2F and market value of these six assets (low F significance, low p-Values) with a perfect fit (99.7% R2).
The S2FX model formula can be used to estimate the market value of the next BTC phase/cluster (BTC S2F will be 56 in 2020–2024):

Market value = exp(12.7598) * 56 ^ 4.1167 = $5.5T.

This translates into a BTC price (given 19M BTC in 2020–2024) of $288K.

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>>18722513
Conclusion

In this article I solidify the basis of the current S2F model by removing time and adding other assets (silver and gold) to the model. I call this new model the BTC S2F cross asset (S2FX) model. S2FX model enables valuation of different assets like silver, gold and BTC with one formula.

I have explained the concept of phase transitions. Phase transitions introduce a new way of thinking about BTC and S2F. It led me to the S2FX model.

S2FX model formula has a perfect fit to the data (99.7% R2).

S2FX model estimates a market value of the next BTC phase/cluster (BTC S2F will be 56 in 2020–2024) of $5.5T. This translates into a BTC price (given 19M BTC in 2020–2024) of $288K.

Solidifying known facts from the original S2F study, the S2FX model offers a new way of thinking about BTC transitioning into the fifth phase.

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>>18722412
cope
>>18722435
cope
>>18722446
cope
>>18722460
cope
>>18722477
cope
>>18722502
cope
>>18722513
cope
>>18722533
cope

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>>18722659
how's starving in India as a career working out for you anon? I sure hope that Corona doesn't shut down you countries food supply.

>> No.18722914

>>18722659
>You get only one life.
>Born in shitty india where you will suffer and shit on the street for most of it
>Invent a religion to say that if you ensure this suffering now the next one will be better
HAHAHAHAHAH THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF PAJEETS

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>>18722412

>> No.18723011

cool thanks not a half bad idea

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>>18722921
>he unironically thinks aquaman beaner is a basis for superiority

get fucked pajeets

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>>18722688
>>18723011
>>18723022
the digits don't lie anons

>> No.18723040

>>18722412
I enjoyed this article immensely until it cut off suddenly.

You make a great case for S2F as a method of predicting price given a known input value, but you've said nothing about where you think this value might come from.

The presumption that BTC will reach the S2F target you've set, 56, is based on the assumption that there will be a 5th, a 6th, a 7th "phase transition." This assumption breaks down at some point, so by what basis are you assuming it hasn't reached it's plateau phase?

>> No.18723089

>>18722435
>>18722446
I'm glad someone finally combined these two concepts. The "changing bitcoin narratives" chart struck me as very accurate being someone who saw the evolving narratives firsthand on forums, blogs, leddit, etc.

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>>18722688
>GOSH I SURE DO LOVE HODLING THATS ALL I EVER WANNA DO WITH BY BITCOIN IS HODL HODL HODL I WILL HODL THEM FOR THE REST OF TIME AND PASS MY HODLCOINS TO MY CHILDREN WHO I WILL SACRIFICE TO MOLOCH IF THEY EVEN FUCKING THINK ABOUT SPENDING ONE GODDAMN SATOSHI BECAUSE BITCOIN BTC IS THE BEST DIGITAL STORE OF GOLD VALUE 2.0 JUST WAIT UNTIL LIGHTNING NETWORK SIDECHAINS DANDILION TAPSCHNORR COINROOT ITS ALL GOONA HAPPEN JUST GIVE IT ANOTHER 3 YEARS YOU'LL SEE JUST KEEP WAITING AND JUST KEEP HODLING AND JUST KEEP HODLING THESE BUCKETS OF CUM THAT BLOCKSTREAM IS DUMPING IN THAT TIGHT LITTLE ASS WHILE OPAQUE JEWISH FUNDING CONTINUES TO SUBVERT EVERYTHING THAT ONCE MADE BITCOIN BITCOIN BUT DONT WORRY JUST KEEP HODLING YOUR BITCOIN YOU DONT NEED TO THINK OR ACT OR DEVELOP ANTHING AT ALL JUST HODL HODLL HODL DHOL HODL GOD I FUCKING LOVE HODLING SO MUCH OHHHHH FUCK YEAH GREG KEEP POUNDING MY FUCKING SHIT IN YESS YES RIGHT THERE I FUCKING LOVE FUCK MY TIGHT LITTLE ASS GREGGORY THAT THAT'S THE SPOT OH FUCK I THINK IM GONNA, I THINK IM GONNA... HHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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>>18723040
the 56 number is not a target, it's a certainty based on the halving reducing the supply, which will in effect create a S2F of 56, comparable to that of gold. full paper here: https://medium.com/@100trillionUSD/bitcoin-stock-to-flow-cross-asset-model-50d260feed12

>> No.18723098

>>18722513
>This translates into a BTC price (given 19M BTC in 2020–2024) of $288K.
You're not accounting for the estimated Bitcoin thats been lost which im so keen for as it will be way hgiher lol

>> No.18723174

>>18722533
Interesting read, thanks anon.

>> No.18723452

>>18723098
>stock-to-flow

>> No.18723497

>>18723094
9/10

>> No.18723507
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>>18723094
tl;dr the ravings of a mad poo in loo pajeet everyone

>> No.18723528

>>18722446
>>18723040
To expand on this, you're saying it's still mostly an censorship resistant e-gold, and growing as an uncorrolated asset.

Aren't these two concepts the same thing? Its matured into its own asset class entirely, similar to the precious metals market. BTC is now a ticker on most serious financial news sites. This isn't a new phase as it is a growing reality of complete cryptocurrency take over because of all the growing uses combined.

>> No.18723557

>>18723507
go back to twitter faggot

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BTC is shit

Its time has come and gone.

Time the king dies.

Que big scary images... woooo scary

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>>18723528
it has many properties. the larger the marketcap and more features it co-opts the more properties it will have. for instance, reserve currency is just a meme property at the moment, but when we get to the marketcap size of a nation state, that meme will become a more prominent narrative.

>>18723557
I was hear before I forked into twitter

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>>18723608
do you fuck your cousin with that hell spawn, heretic?

>> No.18723818

>>18723676
>>18723631
Does the S2F model hold up fir other cryptocurrencies as well? Why or why not?
Also, what sort of phase transitions did gold or silver go through? I'm not seeing any reason why Bitcoin is likely to undergo more phase transitions, just a correlation between market value amd stock-to-flow. Clusters appear to form, sure, and I think comparing it to other assets is a good idea, but I don't see the benefit of labeling each cluster as a different phase transition for BTC.

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>>18723818
>Does the S2F model hold up fir other cryptocurrencies as well?
maybe for some of the harder ones, but it's very difficult for them to compete with the flagship. a similar thing happened with gold and silver historically, and silver lost hard as a monetary metal. Gold won, because it had a better S2F ratio, and was just more aesthetically pleasing, ie more marketshare=more value. Bitcoin has much the same.

gold and silver never went through phase changes since they have always had the same S2F.

Bitcoin is probably the first asset in history to have scheduled changes in S2F hardening, which makes phase change analogies on narrative appropriate. as the S2F escaltes, so does the narratives surrounding the justification for price appreciation. its a rationalization mechanism and hopium fueled derangement mechanism.

the clusters are more to illustrate how as the S2F changes, so does the narrative.