/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18704548
Add Weekend DOW to OP.

https://www.ig.com/en/indices/markets-indices/weekend-wall-street

Trade binary options for a couple of hours every sunday and take the rest of the week off!

Bullniggers are FUCKED. Hope you got your shorts in.

>>18704567
Fuck off with that meme shit, newfag.

What's the food equivalent of cypro?
On cypro I only came like 4 times so far and most of it was when I was asleep.
Actually since I started cypro it's been 6 times. 3 wet dreams, one fap 1 week in. 1 fap two weeks ago with gf and one randomly after seeing a dead body of a kpop idol.
My question is how do I suppress hunger?

yay we did it

BEARTARDS R FUCK

>>18704682
Whens it habbening

You can't escape your destiny.

You must work fast food again!

Hope no one had anything in DO, they just filed for bankruptcy
https://www.investing.com/news/coronavirus/diamond-offshore-files-for-bankruptcy-citing-price-war-coronavirus-2151557

>>18704745
nice...
someday I will be intelligent enough for vicky
maybe the next time I take some mushrooms I'll try it

>>18704723
if you're hungry, just eat healthy food
if you drink soda, cut it out
exercise

Any RTX chads our there? I’m looking to convert my my link stack to RTX, sometime after link hits ~4.20. Thoughts?

>ROYT
>FTSI
>DNR
>HPR
>ROSE

Which of these will increase my gains?

Where my leaf bros at?
You fucks buying ETF's or fat divvy stocks?
Canada strong, we going to be back to normal faster the US and Euro bros. Ol' J.T is keeping us paid and fed until this has blown over. We will be back to work (lol slaves) just like it was before, rent ripples will be light and housing market will slow a bit. Careful with REITs right now, I think. Guves banks a bit of space to navigate through those ripples.
How do you feel about energy? I'm getting bullish for more local manufaturing and shipping, energy should rebound fast here. AB is even paying to clean up old shit to make the lands usable for more projects and shit. 2020 is the year of Canada

You guys know we’re hitting circuit breakers this week, right?

>>18704873
d-downward, right?

>>18704873
God I hope so. A limit up on overnight or premarket and then the dump to rule them all. The blackest monday

>>18704873
What's the trigger though?

B-Bullchads... I’m getting nervous... anyone else hear clacking?

>>18704921
death numbers and case numbers start to fall for multiple days in a row, people start selling, booom
big down towards 2300-2400

>>18704921
It always happens when no one expects it. Thats when you know its the big one.

Are RTX and BAM actually good long term holdings or is it just a /biz/ meme?

This is the next weed market

>>18704548
What happens to the market?
What happens to Gilead?

>>18705018
Just delete your app, bro. Simple as.

>>18704960
I think the trigger will actually be mediocre tech earnings, and then people fleeing those stocks feeling that they aren't safe anymore. Since they make up like 30% of SPY it will take a massive shit.

>>18705025
Tech stocks keep pumping and dumping. Financial and oil stocks keep crabbing.

>>18705018
Well, fuck bro...

>>18705032
What you can't see can't hurt you.

>>18705035
perpetual crab is what I predict.

>>18704859
Reporting in.

Biz for your drone stocks who do you prefer KTOS, AVAV, NOC, BA, or LMT? And who is at a discount?

>>18705052
I think its a bearish crab. Look at SPY. It hit its local high over a week ago and hasn't returned.

Bobos are so stupid. Imagine being a Bobo in the golden Bull run

I hope bull cucks realize that this market is propped up by 5 companies, all of which report this week, and once everybody realizes that their earnings are just as fucked as everybody else’s, this entire racket will come crashing down. You’ve been warned.

>>18705078
its up 30% in 1 month, why would you expect any significant changes in a short time frame like 1 week?

>GEX is falling which means that S&P 500 is supposed to follow suit soon
>DIX is plummeting which means short volume is falling aka people are buying less
>Earnings season is in full swing with big names like Apple and Alphabet announcing their quarterly reports
>POMP is scheduled for Monday
How do you guys think this week is going to turn out? Is it a good time to buy TVIX and SQQQ or not? What companies are you expecting to have shitty earnings?

>>18705103
>muh S&P index ETFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-okYNwwl-I

>>18704921
Was wondering that too. I think there will be a million headlines about the US will hitting 1 million cases tomorrow, and also crossing the point of having 1/3 of worldwide cases.

what broker should I use and what are some good high divvie stocks to build my portfolio with?

>>18705103
Jokes on you, they will jew up the GAAP numbers and analysts will compare them to lowball "estimates" so that when the numbers are released they'll all be "beats"

Futures right now. Bears are so stupid

I got a Spy call @ $300 ending this Friday. Will it print by then?

>>18705135
yet we have tons of states opening things up, the big question is whether this news will be taken optimistically and counteract hitting a million cases or it will be taken pessimistically and foreshadow a 2nd wave of coronavirus to come

>>18705157
They have a scheduled pump for Monday so it might get close.

>>18705154

If I have 19k to spend and don't want to think too hard, would just dumping it into Google be fine? Or should I just pick an ETF like SCHX if I want to be that lazy?

>>18705179
If digits you go all in on TVIX

>>18705172
Holy fuck anon. F

>>18705074
NOC and LMT

>>18705154

>1M lines, perfectly zoomed to one's own bias.

NGMI

>>18705018
senpai
I just know yous a nigga

>>18705172
Hey bro if it makes you feel better pic related is me
It's been an awesome learning experience despite the losses

>>18705172
>>18705246
are you guys from plebbit?

>>18705246
that really sucks man, sorry to hear. What exactly did you do?

>>18705018
>>18705049
>>18705246
How is this poorfag (me) doing better than these fags?

>>18705151
While this is true, they can only jew for so long before they decide to pull the rug out.

>>18705205
Don't worry fren, losses are all part of personal growth in the markets. I was there once when I started out. Don't sweat it, I'll spend your money on righteous right-wing causes. You didn't lose it all in vain

>>18705263
One of the options I did was just a bad call
The other one I fucking overslept and I bought an options I didn't want to

Narcolepsy is a bitch

>>18705266
I did a Boeing put and a Blackrock call
>>18705269
Shiw $

>>18705204
Whats your take on KTOS/AVAV? are they not worth it or are overpriced?

>>18705293
Like I said I am poor

>>18705325
Shit dude an almost 100% gain, regardless of how much you've put in is still impressive.
What have you been relying on so far for gains?

>>18705090
doing gods work, keep it up

>>18705293
You'll still be rich one day anon, one day youll talk about how you fucked up your portfolio and how far you've came since that

>>18704548

>>18705325
That's awesome man, nothing wrong with that $ earned

>>18705172
>>18705199
>>18705246
>>18705263
>$80 OTM SPY PUT
>Volume: 6800
>Open interest: 100,000
What the fuck??

>>18705337
I jump in and out of puts and calls pretty quickly. With my profit from those I bought REFR 'cause it was shilled on here. I have about 270 shares of that Avg price $2.60. It's at 2.82 and about to run up I think. I bought a call on SFIX 5/8 $18 and that will give me some profit. Don't get me wrong I have been wrong on plays but overall pretty good.

>>18705351
Oh yeah man I'm not really worried, I've learned so much this past 2-3 months.
I have a $300 Spy call expiring this week so let's see where that takes me!

>every bobo poster

>>18705403
there's a reason he's smiling

>>18705393
Protip: you're basically the best trader /smg/ has ever seen so far.
Don't sell yourself short
>tfw no spoilers on /biz/

>>18705418
the same reason the hobo on the street corner smiles

>>18705403
>bears: TA, statistics, historical data, examination of the encompassing situation
>bulls: hehe, stocks go up

>>18705378
Thanks fren. Good luck to you, I am sorry about your losses.

>>18705371
10/10 for creativity

well done sir

Oh boy I can't wait for another day where literally everything rises or falls together except maybe some tech.
Fuck ETF algos and FUCK this low volume market manipulation

>>18705429
And the bearcucks lose every time.

>>18705423
the hobo on the street is free

>>18705388
The stock """market""" has become a literal slot machine. Welcome to economics in 2020

>>18705429
>bears: invents a pseudoscience that borders on religion to justify their emotions
>bulls: accepts the cosmic futility of attempting to control the future with numbers

>>18705004
Don't ask me, I didn't research this shit

wew that's a depressing photo OP

>>18705429
Bears: Lose money

>>18705429
seriously why is there so much bobo hate on this board?

>>18705091
the golden bull run that just finished lel

>>18705499
stop trying to fit in, you're clearly new here

>>18705463
I did some research on RTX and I feel pretty good having a decent chunk of my money in them but I don't know enough about BAM.

>>18705429
The trend is up. It's easy, just buy bro. All riches can be yours, you have the wind at your back supported by the full strength of the US fed and President Donald "The Pump" Trump. They're just giving the money away at this point
>no I'd rather short

>>18705499
Because they are delusional dumbfucks who simply cannot accept that the Fed has rigged the game and number WILL KEEP GOING UP no matter what bullshit charts and lines they come up with

>>18705419
Haha thanks. I'm gonna keep going. Wish I discovered this 10 years ago.

>>18705499
Bobo is a bitcoiner meme. If you ask why bears are hated, its because people on the stock market forum... are invested in stocks... crazy right?

Anyone else anticipating RTX below 60 once they release earnings may 7?

I don't know if I could be a bear, you only get to be right for a few weeks once in every decade.
That's a whole lot of empty doomsaying to produce everyday for a few meager rewards and a metric ton of puts expiring worthless.

>>18705507
I'm half VOO and the other half is stocks shilled here consistently by people making good arguments or memes.

>>18705499
We are reaching peak delusion.

oil kek

>>18705403
Bearie bears aren't usually fans of TA though. It's mostly (world events and stuff) = market go down. Only TA thing I have seen the yogis talk about lately is volume.

TA is the reason I remain bullish on this market for the time being. If I was an all fundamental kinda person predicting market moves based on the news cycle or something, I would be bearish too.

Any fellow OKE and RDS.B biz anons here?

>>18705570
TA is the reason I'm bearish kek

>why are indexes going up

>>18704869
I'm Canadian. That sounds retarded we're in trouble bud.

>>18705566
red day tmr confirmed, nice dubs btw

>>18705587
I agree that market has entered a neutral period where a break either way could tell the tale for months to come, but the break hasn't happened yet. In absence of that break, I go with trend to this point.

>>18705570
And yet half the bears here keep saying "this is the big one, 5 of my signals just went off"

>>18705613
>>18704869

>>18704869
>You fucks buying ETF's or fat divvy stocks?
How about ZDV? It's both.

Market is going to crash this week, all signs point to a weakening upward trend that is over extended.

>>18705603
>So you have $49,200 in sell puts. How much was the total premium?
I can't remember cuz I picked them all up at different times but I wanna say 4k or so. I sell the puts at strikes I'd be happy to own the stocks at. If the rally keeps going, the 4k a month is a nice consolation prize, we dump and I'm happy with my shares. Winwin

>>18705630
If it breaks above I'll lick my wounds and get out. Won't be too bad for me cause I didn't go crazy on puts. If it breaks down like it probably will this week, I'll be in lambo land. Be safe.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU RETARDS NOT POST THE LINK TO THE NEW THREAD IN THE OLD THREAD

THERES TWO FUCKING NEW THREADS AND NEITHER OF YOU DID THSAT EASY AS FUCK 5 SECOND TASK?

fuck you newfags.

>>18705701
>tfw I went all in on friday on an oil stock
>on margin
>and oil is tanking
>again

Ze bought?

OH and which one of you shilled this fucking Casgains youtube channel?

I've never watched it but it constantly spams me with tesla garbage. Fuck this shill is absolutely obsessed.

>>18705713
CUTE. I never had a cute office girl to work with. Always old, fat, not remotely cute. :(

>>18705315
Neither are worth it. Can barely compete in their industries.

>>18705728
>Tesla shill
How do they exist? Tesla is being valued 60x more than a car company and 40x more than a semiconductor company.

>>18704869
Lun lundin mining. Been making bank off it. Nice dividend paying gold mine.

Hey bulls, this cheapie is free

>>18705701
Good, cause I bought TVIX on Friday.

BEARS R FUK

>we will actually hit 3k SP500 before May
As overbought as the market is, I don't see any way to kill bull optimism anytime soon.
>>18705388
People still believe the crash is coming. How the fuck they expect 200 in the middle of May, I don't know. I do think the next crash is going to be way faster because of people getting dejavu from March, but it's way too soon and 200 is a very far target.

>>18705763
Selling a naked call while owning the underlying is the same as selling a covered call though, regardless of the order of operations, and assuming your broker isn't retarded.
Can you explain what's stupid about what I described?

>>18705735
I had a very super qt mexican front office girl when I was 18 at this bullshit office job. Fuck she was seriously the cutest little thing. I got her to let me drive her home one day after work and get a coffee together, but I was too much of a sperg to build it into anything. Not even a qt gril to be in my social media shit for social proof.

>>18705747
it's... we had a guy here who was OBSESSED with it. Every time I said I didn't want to invest in autos he freaked out at me.

Also, P/E for growth companies isn't the best way to invest it seems. For the past 11 or so years at least. The market gives companies with negative profits high valuations for a reason, and companies like viacom low single digit P/E for a reason as well.

Some companies are the future, and they stand to establish themselves and make a killing if things go well. Some companies stand to fade into irrelevance even if things go well. Maybe they get bought out or taken private by a hopeful investor with a "vision". But it remains, who wants to be holding Ford or Walgreens 10 years from now? But Tesla and Shopify? They could become BIG on a stunning level.

I'm still not interested in tesla though kek

>>18704869
How can you be so retarded as to still have any money in the canadian market.

Stop being a fag, pull the LPC's cock out of your mouth. Do Norbert's gambit and get every last cent you have into NYSE and STOP. SHILLING. for Justin Trucuck.

Alsoo...Nigger.

>>18705816
>delusional bull thinks it cant go down
Bruh, did you miss the memo that nothing has changed and everything is still fucked?

>>18704873
god i hope so, evaporate!!

>>18704738
This. Am considering cashing out all of my positions. I walk away with a profit. If they going up oh well that just means an actual recession or depression hasn't struck it in over a decade. Not gonna be the guy caught bagholding especially when this caused such a hard drop without an official recession or depression being announced.

>>18705848
You'll be posting this for the next 5 years.

>>18704869
If you're canadian buy BIP or BIPC same company.

>>18705869
>this caused such a hard drop without an official recession or depression being announced.
But this is exactly what happened during the 2007-2009 crisis. Stocks rebounded before and continued rising after a recession was announced.

>>18705507
Asset manager with 5 segments: Private Equity, Distressed credit(Oaktree), Renewables, High-end Real estate, and Infrastructure. They're gonna fucking kill it with )aktree, they bought them expecting distressed debt last year and what do you know. Not to mention they hold shit that is incredibly resistant to market conditions, like pipelines and ports. Their largest weakness is malls, which make up a minuscule fraction of their business and they can easily subsidize them. They make money off rent, not sales. And if you think massive buildings in the middle of cities will just go empty, lol. And even if malls all went out of business. BAM would barely move. They're poised to take charge of the asset management space with Oaktree and ride the wave of a flight to safety when people realize alternative assets are where it's at. Not to mention their excellent investments in cash flowing energy and renewable infrastructure. They are ready to not only survive this downturn, but capitalize on it.

If people want returns, they won't go to the banks, they won't go to bonds, and the wealthy (who hate volatility) won't look to pure equities, you know where they'll look? BAM. It's that simple.

>https://bam.brookfield.com/~/media/Files/B/Brookfield-BAM-IR-V2/documents/%20Update_for_Brookfield_Shareholders_3-23-2020.pdf


Well well well, looks like Flatts and his team are already at work. Like a kid in a candy store.

>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-06/gip-brookfield-said-in-talks-to-team-up-for-adnoc-gas-pipelines

>>18705875
We are in the midst of the greatest economic collapse in a century, and all you can say is "LINE GO UP." I'm so fucking tired of this delusional bullshit.

>>18705848
are you the same bear that talked about needing to let the old trees burn away and new trees grow or something?

I would gladly lose half of my funds to cleanse the stock market of index fund/ETF cancer

>>18705837
That's right anon buy GE its the next tesla.

>>18705848
Just because everything is fucked doesn't mean the stock market will be right away or even soon. A lot of stocks have already sunk a shitton and people have no where else to put their money. If a majority of the market decides to baghold, the market will stay afloat until companies people really care about start to fall.

>>18705916
They do have somewhere to put their money. It's called cash. I don't know where that meme came from

>>18704869
>MBX.TO up 75% in one month.

Do you hate free maple syrup loonies?

>>18705836
It just sounds like you're jugging downside + upside risk too much. Like if it crabs down slowly hodling would be disadvantageous, but selling would be still too risky as the underlying is close enough to the strike price.

I can't wait to switch to calls and then all of a sudden the market collapses!

>>18705916
Then the rope and guillotine come out and we start with the politicians and move on to the je..w...... I mean bankers next

>>18705900
No? I'm just tired of the delusion. Its fucking blindingly obvious that the market should not be near all time highs at all.

>>18705916
It could drop next month or it could drop next week or it could drop over a year, if you knew you could be rich. Theres no reason for people to keep money in depreciating and risky assets. Bonds are kill though. Basically cash is the only thing worth holding despite potential inflation. Even property is extremely risky now.

>>18705911
what did he mean by this?
I honestly am baffled.
Is this an attempt to construct a "man of straw"? Is this the tesla obsessive returning to lash out in incomprehensible fashion?

GE is sort of a spec but too much with manufacturing for my liking. Why did you bring it up?

>>18705916
>have no where else to put their money
at least someone gets it

Jerome destroyed the bond market. Real estate is already starting to fall. Bitcoin is too volatile and boomer rocks are still boomertarian catnip and nothing else. And other commodities are all tanking.
LINE MUST GO UP because capital has nowhere else to go. Fedniggers have been counting on the stock market absorbing inflation because its done that so far since QE jewry started in the 90s.

>>18705899
>LINE GO UP
You're confused The line is going sideways for financial stocks, oil, etc. Stop looking at S&P 500 and use your brain.

See
>>18705595

>>18705899
Get fucked lol. Jesus christ I laugh so hard when bobos fight the Fed and think they won't just keep doing what they've always done for the last 30+ years. Then they have the absolute chromosomes to call OTHERS delusional.

>>18705954
It was a joke anon GE is another company the just destined to fade into nothing. The sad part is the US government will bail it out one time before it goes belly up

>>18705595
>>18705962
So youre saying buy AMZN puts? Shits about to collapse bruh.

>>18705972
>LINE ONLY GO UP HAHA
>FED JUST PRINT MONEY HAHA
Thats why we dropped 50% in 2008? Definitely can't happen again even though we have greater leverage and unemployment and debt! Wow, oops, sorry, did I just blow your brains out? Haha silly me.

>>18705007
I found about 800 growing in my woods, if I wasn't a pussy and idiot I would have harvested them but I dont trust my identification skills.

All it takes to make US oil stocks fucking moon is a false flag in the Straight of Hormuz.

>>18705997
Lmao please buy AMZN puts. I want to see your rage thread.

>>18706015
ok (((forbes)))

>>18705899
>he thinks the line correlates to economic activity

>>18705948
I see I see!

Since you don't like seeking out ideas that contradict with your POV, may I present some to you in easily digestible format of audio clips by people with more experience than the both of us?

Would you like that or would it upset you more?

>>18705984
GE could be something as a spec. Odd that is seems that the man credited with establishing it's greatness, Welsh, seemed to doom it by cutting forward thinking initiatives and R&D while also building up their toxic financing segment.

And he got to go out like a hero...

>>18705961
Let me guess, your put options sucked ass?

>>18705899
>Bobos being this butthurt
I guess I'd be mad too if I'd lost all my money by mistiming and misinterpreting something as simple as fed brrrr line go up. How could Bobos be so stupid and be able to feed themselves

>>18705997
>So youre saying buy AMZN puts?
Go ahead and gamble with options. It's your money.

>>18705998
Yeah I wouldn't ether that's a great way to poison your self or a friend. Best way I say is find someone who knows them first hand or start researching it but thats just such a hassle

>>18706030
you think it doesn't?

what happens when revenue plummets?

>>18705998
what area? identification can be tricky. any pics?

>>18706048
Indiana. Didn't take pictures but they bruised blue. Similar caps to the pic but not serrated at the bottom and thicker stems. I think they were liberty caps but I don't even do drugs anymore so nothing lost.

>>18706018
>>18706030
>>18706032
>>18706036
>>18706039
>Peak delusion
Oh fuck, we really are at the top, arent we? We've gone back to pre-crash "new paradigm" think. We are so fucked.

>>18706032
It really those make me sad that a company as old as the country would become this shell. Don't get me wrong there's still time for them to turn the ship around and there were signs before the virus that they could do it but now it's just going to be a slow bleed

>>18705972
the FED has already reduced QE significantly and stocks have begun to wobble. FED has your back until it doesn't

>>18705997
There can be short-lived drops sure. I never said the Fed was terribly ahead of the curve here, in fact they're mostly behind the curve. But once they get in motion there's no stopping them. Literally the most powerful central bank in the world belonging to the most powerful nation in the world. So yeah, sure, we had a little dip. Hope you bought it, because now the Fed is pumping trillions into the economy, and once things open up again in June we're gonna see ATH again pretty quickly.

Screenshot and save this post for later, please. Then cry alone knowing I was right

>>18706080
Put your money where your cocksucker is and post positions.

>>18705816
These are some of the companies reporting this week. Map is YTD performance, size of company is their market cap.

>>18706080
I think you said almost this exact same think last week... This cortisol generated by things you can't control will wreak havoc on you physiologically and neurologically.

>>18706105
I have a bunch of puts. Where are your calls? You can just look at the PUT/CALL chain and see nobody believes we are going up. Calls are super cheap, you could buy tons.

>>18706124
I own a shit ton of TAK calls, rest is in crypto. Post a screenshot.

>>18706112
MRK is down 11%!!!

SHIT I was trimming my shares in the fucking mid 70's! Stupid!!

Maybe it'll get hit hard this week and I can grab some shares or calls before they report?

>PFIZER
>MERCK
>ABBVIE
big drug names this week

>REGENERON
We were supposed to get an update on kevzara last week, how worried should I be? Or maybe I just hope for an update this week...

>>18706074
fair enough. almost sure way to tell is take a spore print. if its purple you are good. white is definitely poison. food for thought.

also, I wouldn't call mushrooms a "drug". Fungi have inhabited the earth for more than 400 million years.

>>18706112
I've been trying to predict what will happen after earnings for those companies. I suspect the market will fall bc other tech companies fell after reporting earnings and I think there is enough time for FB and GOOG to have taken a hit to advertising revenue. May be bias bc I have puts.

What do you think?

>>18706147
oh bullshit even if there's truth to the stoned ape theory it's still a fucking drug

It's more of a drug than caffeine, and mind altering on the level of alcohol

>>18705948
>Its fucking blindingly obvious that the market should not be near all time highs at all.

>he's too smart for the market
ngmi

>>18706120
>>18706188
>you
Yes, only one person thinks the market is crashing. I dont understand this antagonization. Why are you people so insecure? Like wtf is your problem? I point to metric after metric (bonds are dead, oil is crashing, mortgages are in forbearance, business and states are going bankrupt, government is panicking) but all I ever get back is "youre dumb" "line go up" "brrrrrrr" and "the fed." I'm never given evidence that says business income is increasing, people are paying rent, bonds are recovering, people are getting jobs, small businesses are growing. Am I really getting gaslit by a bunch of stupid faggots?

>>18704745
just play some EU4, maybe mod the shit out of it if needed

>>18706162
I'm not gonna be reading any tea leaves this week. PE ratios seem off the fucking charts to me, I don't think the rally will sustain, and considering many of the companies towing up the S&P if there's any significant downward slippage it's going to spark a selloff. MSFT or AMZN could definitely do it. The power of duopolies.

>>18705997
>>So youre saying buy AMZN puts? Shits about to collapse bruh.
>
thats why youll make bank

>18706202
No, you're just conflating the market with the economy. They aren't the same. I'd tell you to do more research but you don't care so buy your puts bobo.

>FUTURES UP OVER 1% NOW

LOL where are all the TA fags all of a sudden

>>18705924
>holding cash when inflation
Congress and feds are heavy active in making sure stagflation/deflation doesn't happen. If you thought infinite QE was bad, wait til you see how much deficit spending is going to ramp up over this year because of the lockdowns.
>>18705948
Anyone who has ever held stocks during a US recession has made money since. Only boomers should be afraid of losing money before things recover since they might be kill anyways.

>>18706202
>oil is crashing
And oil stocks are still down
>people are paying rent,
REITS are still down.
> bonds are recovering, people are getting jobs, small businesses are growing.
What do any of these have to do with tech stocks l like Amazon that have been moving indexes upward?

>>18706033
>1PBTID
Every time

>>18706202
>all I get is memes
Because you ignore anything that contradicts you. I specifically offered to point you to some counter arguments and you spazzed out about bulls instead.

Get fucked I’m done with you.

this market is moving a little fast...hope I have time to cash out my calls in the morning before it starts dipping.

>>18706228
I'm not buying Amazon puts because the premiums are so fucking high.

>>18706238
>we already hit the bottom and recovered in less than 2 months
no

>>18706254
>literally just gives and meme
>doesn't provide any evidence of counterpoints
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooff

>>18706202
You have to adapt to what the market is doing whether you think it's right or not. Some much money can be burned away on failed contrarian trades because you're stubborn and refuse to go with the flow. Speaking for myself, I trade much better if I form no specific opinion about what should or shouldn't happen. Or, at least consciously prevent whatever my opinion is from affecting my trading decisions. That's why I wound up doing mostly momentum trades in the first place. When I first started I traded almost entirely on fundamentals. I found it maddening. I've never been so irritable and angry as I was when I was trying to be a long hodler. You can scream and shout all day long about the market doing the opposite of what you think ought to happen but it won't change a thing.

>>18706124
>I have a bunch of puts
Oh you're the paypig on the other side of my trades. Haha, see you at expiry, slut

>>18706280
There will be another crash by the EOY. Good luck timing it. Until then, market is crabbing or going up.

>>18706166
If you believe it is a drug, it cannot be "more" of a drug than other drugs. My BMW is not "more" of a car than say your Honda.

But I do not agree. Caffeine is not a drug either. Any compound that occurs naturally and can be consumed without altering is not a drug. Caffeine is an alkaloid occurring naturally in various plants we are aware of. Psilocybin is naturally occuring in various species of funghi. Alcohol is not a natural compound. Unless you want to drink it from fish liver you need to process it in order for it to effect you. This is what a drug is. To compare these two is conflating what a drug is.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

where do green candles come from?

Is some huge hedge fund guy sitting at his computer and just presses the buy button?

>>18706324
people buying and people selling. if it's not manual, it's computers buying and selling on instructions programmed in by people.

>>18706308
>alcohol is not a natural compound
>can literally just eat old fruit and get drunk like animals do

>caffeine is a natural compound
>have to heavily process coffee beans or tea leaves to then extract it with water from your electric kettle

semanticfags get the rope

>>18706308
Alcohol occurs naturally in a consumable form and concentration you dum-dum.

Attempt at TA, trying not to get burned. What does this tell you?

>>18706212
I think it will all be decided in Tuesday after hours. If GOOG disappoints it means the other techs will follow. If not the house of cars may stay standing for awhile longer.

>>18704797
Working fast food is a starter job and has never paid better unless u live in some mega city and then fuck you why do u deserve to live there while being bare minimum skill level? Fucking a it was a mistake to allow morons access to a platform without proving basic a understanding of economics

>>18706372
up

>>18706372
Literally nothing you fucking autist. Need larger time frame and company name.

>>18706386
>TA
>needing company name

>>18706395
You got me. But TA is just a meme anyways when not combined with financials.

>>18706124
>You can just look at the PUT/CALL chain and see nobody believes we are going up
>You can just look at the prices and see nobody believes we are going down
how retarded are you

>>18706308
>you can’t be sort of pregnant
Bro don’t be petty about there not being any gray areas when there obviously are.

This is going too far to try to win an inconsequential internet disagreement by taking issue with language instead of content.

Also that natural substance thing is bullshit and I’m not going to bother with it. Dinner time.

>>18706372

>>18706342
so you're telling me that magically a bunch of people suddenly, within the same 1 min interval, jump into a purchase with high volume?

>>18704723
amphetamine

>>18706372
Well, I don't normally do TA based on so few candles but what that looks like is a resistance level being broken and move to the upside. It's bullish unless price retraces back down to that same line and fails to break above it again. Very basic idea with support/resistance is that, in future, a price level will become the opposite of what it was as the trend matures. Meaning, if a resistance is broken a retrace back to the former resistance should act as a new support. Other way around for bearish moves, support breakage, old support becomes new resistance.

>>18706430
Yes, it's called algorithms.

>>18706124
Calls are ALWAYS cheap. Deep OTM calls are 1/2 the price of deep OTM put equivalents. Reminds me, when we dip to 1600, I am backing up the truck and buying 3000 LEAPS

>>18706228
If it happens, yes you will make a lot of money. BUT it's a massive normie npc tier stock just like TSLA. Which makes it extremely dangerous to buy puts on.

>>18706354
Sorry my friend but that theory has been proven to be wrong. The sugars are turned into fat before they can ferment into alcohol. A 1982 study of various Finnish fruits found that fruits like rosehips, rowan berries, and hawthorn fruits (the latter is closely related to the apple) could only attain an ABV of between 0.05 and 0.3 percent. So how much alcohol is really in a fruit? “One of the issues with fermented fruit is that it would take a lot to get a bear drunk. You know, people don’t get drunk from fermented apples either,” says Darrell Smith, a wildlife biologist.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/investigation-do-bears-get-drunk-off-rotting-fruit

Regardless how you like to consume caffeine the point is, in its natural state it can be consumed. Do you not eat raw coca beans? Those things are delish!

>>18706430
Not exactly. Often people will set stop-limit buys. This will automatically buy at the ask as a market order if a particular price has been reached. It's why you get big spikes in volumes at particularly meaningful price areas on the chart. On opposite side in bearish conditions, short sellers will attempt to break support levels for this exact same reason to pop a bunch of existing stop losses and get an extra push downwards.

The ship is sinking captain

>>18706440
I keep looking through the Sell Options section of RH and they display the "probability" of profit, but the real probability of literally infinite loss potential scares me too much to try my hand at it.

What chair should I invest in if I spent 99% of my awoken life in front of mu pc?

>>18706371
>alcohol occurs naturally
stopped reading

>>18706383
>inverted hammer on an uptrend

>>18706438
>but what that looks like is a resistance level being broken and move to the upside.
Welp.

Bloomberg: "Bank of Japan Ramps Up Stimulus With Pledge for Unlimited Bond Buying"

Is this bullish?

>>18706472
Don't sell options. Don't buy options either unless you're a degenerate gambler with clear targets and timelines.

>>18706478
Forgot pic

>>18706418
There are nuances everywhere. The definition of a drug does not line up with what caffeine or mushrooms are, regardless of what your indoctrination tells you. If it occurs naturally, it is not a drug. Have a good dinner.

>>18704682
Unlikely

>>18706473
AMD?

>>18706478
Don't call patterns/candles before they finish. That one retraced higher. And even if this thing retraces, it's STILL bullish until Tuesday at least.

>>18706488
I was with Dillard's once, I bet 800 bucks that DDS would go down 1 fucking dollar in value because it was dropping steadily and naturally and then the government pumped the market and it spiked 10 bucks in value, lost all of it.

>>18706482
This has been known since last Thursday dumbass

>memelines and druggies
See you all when the market opens

>>18706478
>inverted hammer on an uptrend
I suggest testing single day candles like that on historical charts to see what kind of correlation there actually is between a particular candle type; doji, hammer, hang man, shooting star etc. and follow through in the days after. I don't use single candles like that as part of my TA at all.

>>18706508
k

>>18706505
Ok Kuroda

>>18706472
Sell spreads/condors, limit your downside.

>>18706497
Drug is any substance that has any alteration on consciousness. That's the worldwide definition, not your hippie definition. This is also a retarded thing to argue about on the internet and more suited for /reddit/ so go back.
>>18706488
Based. But if you must dabble in options, January 2021 calls on TAK way OTM will pay big my dude.

>>18706202
>Am I really getting gaslit by a bunch of stupid faggots?
kek
yes

>>18706372
>8 time frames
literally nothing

also fredly reminder: all TA is lagging indicator, not some magic future predictor

>>18706535
I'm not that advanced in my studying nor do I have enough expendable cash to experiment with right now, but I'll make a note of it

>>18706529
https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Exclusive-Bank-of-Japan-weighs-unlimited-government-bond-buying

ALL IN ON TVIX BABY

SEE YOU AT THE TOP

LITERALLY JUST A WAITING GAME

>futures up over a percent

>>18706465
Haha these guys are asleep. While they are so concerned with what big daddy government tells them about what they can and cannot consume testing and studies push forward. All three of my mushy companies are up more than 100% in a few months. One is up 173. With Denver and Cali decriminalizing it's only paving the way. As someone who has severe PTSD from my tours it is the only thing to help me. I'm investing in mushrooms as much as the mushroom invests in me.

God bless

BYND?

>>18706567
and VIX barely down anything!

a lil dab to the left
a lil dab to the right
cha cha

what the fuck is this incessant pumping

>>18706587
It's not pumping, the economy is growing.

>>18706497
psychfags are so retarded
no your special snowflake definition does not supersede the one in the dictionary that everyone uses
no you can't change your favorite drug into not a drug by mental gymnastics
no you are not "enlightened" and better than everyone else because you ate a fungus's dick like the faggot that you are

>>18705429
Stocks literally only go up, the orange retard has and will continue to make sure of that

>>18706553
I think it's a bad idea to start with buying options or selling naked ones. I'd recommend to first understand the basic spreads and use them. It will get you into the mindset of risk management instead of gambling.

FFFFFFFFFF

>>18706572
Sorry to hear about your ptsd but I have read studies that it is helping people like yourself. There are many medical benefits to consuming. Unfortunately there aren't many studies, but the ones that were completed look very good. Even microdosing has proven to be effective. I have a stake in a canadian company that is doing testing in a few universities in the states. It's only a matter of time before more attention is put on the industry. The completion of these studies are going to be the catalyst.

>>18706482
>Is this bullish?
Yes. For global and Japanese bonds and equities, it is bullish.

>>18704869
>Canada strong, we going to be back to normal faster the US
what is Canada's economy again? oil? and a real estate bubble? thats essentially all of it. 90% of Canada's value is in those two

>>18704548
WHENS THE SECOND LEG DOWN /B/EAR NIGGERS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A MONTH

>>18704873
how fast would the market have to go up to hit a circuit breaker?

>>18706614
I figured as much, I haven't done in options play in quite a while because of my blunder.
I'm just a bit confused about basic spreads though, is it just buying a call say 1 dollar above and one below the strike price?
Or is it buying a call and a put both 1 dollar apart from the strike price?

>>18706617
Holy shit there's still retards long oil

>>18706539
is love a drug? what about sugar?

>>18704873
everyone knows it will happen this week.

>>18704873
Yes, but I am not sure if it will be Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. With how fast futures are running tonight, looks like it might be sooner rather than later.

>>18706638
There are many ways to use them. A call credit spread, for example, is when you sell a call at a certain strike and buy another one which is more OTM (and thus cheaper). You limit your downside by paying for the cheaper call.
https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/learn/

>>18704745
>>18706205
based

>>18705713
It's the same guy who was making threads early last week, then when he posted the link in the new threads everyone would tell at him and say "stop making threads early"

So now he still makes the threads 10 minutes/20 posts early and just never posts the link in the old threads. I don't understand why

>>18705091
Biden fears the Bull.

>>18706645
>is love a drug? what about sugar?
thats going to be the title of my next hit song.
>>18706642
oil and real estate attract more suckers than PT Barnum. "b-b-b-but they can only go up....! we'll always use them! that means they can only go up!"

>>18706645
love is not a substance sugar is food
next stereotypical psychtard argument please

>>18706645
Sugar is certainly very drug-like on children in particular, and has addictive properties.

Sugar might be exhibit 1 in the case for there being a gray area in what is considered a drug.

schedule for tomorrow:
Open high green, insta-drop

>>18706709
>sugar is food
food and drug arent mutually exclusive
look at mushrooms ol boy

>>18705393
>REFR
Seems like a meme stock but the more I look into it I'm sold. My issue is whether or not going long in this clown economy is good at the moment.

>>18706645
Are stocks a drug? What about t-bills?

>>18706707
Negative beartard

Can someone explain what the strategy --- if there is a strategy -- of the Fed is during this crisis?
As far as I can understand, they were merged with the Treasury back in March, but what is the plan to respond to this economic crisis?

>>18706729
Stocks are a hell of a drug.
But stay away from options that shit ruins lives. I’ll never forget my first option high...

Does this mean anything?

>>18706688
Sounds interesting, thanks for the advice anon.
I'm mostly holding oil stocks long at the moment, so I'll see what I can do now to make small gains here and there.

>>18706755
Print money to give out to banks to make low interest loans and buying bonds, all of them, no matter how shitty. Then hope that everything doesn't collapse.

>>18706774
Nothing matters anymore.

jesus it just keeps going

>>18706755
printing massive amounts of money to prevent deflationary spiral. thats their biggest fear, understandably so. honestly theres little they can even do during a shutdown

>>18706714
>>18706724
>coffee
>nutmeg
>exercise
the concept of "drug" is retarded, loads of shit is psychoactive

>>18706714
What about nutmeg?

>>18706690
grim!!!

hope all is well, many profits

>>18706786
It was fucking 11% when I looked a minute ago, lmao. USO should be fucking liquidated.

>>18706786
you know the june contract will probably go negative too, right? there's still literally no space to put the stuff

>>18706779
If you already have oil stock, you can lower your basis by selling covered calls on it. This will limit your upside in case oil shoots back up again though.

>>18706724
mushrooms are food with the drugs psilocybin and psilocin inside of them

>>18706790
>loads of shit is psychoactive
correct
>the concept of "drug" is retarded
humans have a need to name and classify things. I wouldn't call it retarded, it's useful but lacks nuance. However it give a rough framework of how to talk about and approach things.

>>18706774
i believe it means there are 2,995,152 people with a coronavirus infection (probably covid-19 aka the wuhan flu)

>>18706803
>just eat the pennies billy!
>come on they are just pennies!

>>18706808
I was actually looking into that, I have 90 shares of MRO right now and plan to buy more at market open tomorrow, and selling a $5 call contract seems pretty tempting.
But if I choose to sell an options contract does it automatically close the position if someone were to buy the contract I'm selling?
Also how does that take away from my upside? Would it be better to buy the contract instead and sell it for a profit?

>>18706828
holy shit you HicK thanks for reminding me I never watched the last season of one of my favorite shows.

>>18706795
You too anon! I've just been playing OSRS a lot lately. LYFT and UBER are finally starting to turn around a bit. Are you winning son?

>>18704869
>Canada strong
Pffft. I have no optimism. Canada was not doing well even before all this.

FUTURES

>>18706863
WHAT THE FUCK IS THISSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Instead of infinitely printing, why dont we just pause everything? When trump said dont pay rent why did they just not extend that to everything? just FREEZE it all. i understand people dont want their money to be controlled by anything outside of what they agree to and that may set a precedent but is infinite money better than a big pause button?

T O N I G H T

Pump it daddy.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18706847
its good

>"The Venture Bros. & The Curse of the Haunted Problem"

mind shattering if you've been watching since the first season
first three episodes of season 7 really....

damn i want to rewatch it now, or maybe watch sharky's machine

>>18706848
Finals week, so need to submit my last essay and finish last online exam by friday, and then ill have my BSME in two weeks!

my senior design project somehow went great, even if we had to outsource extra components due to campus shutdown

Money on sidelines
No where to go
Interest rate at 0% which inflates acceptable PE levels
Country opening up
Stock market represents big businesses that are less hurt
digital ads are accelerating in market share as compared: ex app search is only down 13% and guess what usage is like.
Even amazon is raking in advertising money.
Stimulus worldwide which feeds these companies

The bear side already got priced in from March, you missed the bottom. Yes. There will be a slow recovery for certain stocks. If you want the "cheapies" there are plenty of stocks down 70% still. Just don't be surprised or clownposting when Amazon is at ATH when every investor in it just realized it's market share and shopper habits changed forever.

>>18706877
Both things will lead to big economic damage. What they are doing right now is creating the biggest financial asset bubble humans will ever see.

>>18706877
big pause button would wreck it all because some industries need to still function. healthcare, food processing, trucking, etc. everything is interlinked. we pause everything, and funding will stop reaching these essential businesses

>>18706572
>shrooms getting legalized
I guess I missed this news
what mushroom companies?

>>18706924
>nowhere to go
They go to pay the bills and feed their children, not speculate on stocks. 26 million unemployed.

>>18706841
The strike you choose should depend on the date/probability. There's no point in them exercising the option if they can get the stock cheaper in the market.
Regarding limiting your upside: Say that MRO would go to 6 instead of 5, you would lose out on that dollar gain.
Also consider that you can also buy back the spread at any time if you think you've made enough profit, and don't want to risk a sudden upwards move.

>>18706948
>>18706948
>>18706948
>>18706948
new

Looks like Wave 3 is extending. Oh baby. This might hit the fib by Tuesday.

>>18706942
Look at the wage level of those unemployed. Guess what the other share of the market is doing with their money? Not spending it on overpriced alcohol, concerts, travel, etc.

where does that money go?

For every unemployed person there are many more with extra money to spend.

>>18706932
Is there a practical way for them to defuse this or are they just living day-to-day with their fingers crossed?
>>18706939
they could become federally sponsored in this time of crisis. a smarter use of his executive power?

>>18706923
>if you've been watching since the first season
SunKun I remember when the pilot aired, I've been watching adult swim since the days when I had to set up a VHS timer every sunday if I wanted anything good to watch on TV that week.

>Sharky's machine
holy fucking based
Marduk commands it.

>>18706877
I am an old fuck whose only source of revenue is rent monies. I must buy food and medicine this month, and pay my bills. Suddenly, the big pause button is hit and no one is paying me rent. Should I be forced to sell my real estate to get the money with which to buy food and medicine? Do you expect grocery stores and pharmacies to just make that shit for free when there are costs all the way down the chain? Where does the pause button start and end?

I am a grocery store owner that needs to stock my shelves...
I am a food processor and packager...
I am a truck depot operator...
I am a power company...
A pharmaceutical manufacturer...
etc. etc.

>>18706932
>What they are doing right now is creating the biggest financial asset bubble humans will ever see
its better than the alternative. id rather have fed fight off deflationary spiral, at the expense of inflating a massive bubble.
only morons are buying now, anyways. and only morons will sell when it pops. reasonable investors have weathered bubbles before. we have a big 1 every ten years anyways

>>18706472
think of it as "undefined" loss. in the event the price breaks your strike, you don't just immediately lose infinite dollars. you POTENTIALLY could, but that's assuming you just leave the trade alone while the stock moves against you.

you can always set an OCO order in TOS to either close at target profit or cut off a loss. if you want to fuck with undefined risk, do that. otherwise, define or limit your risk on every trade. lower profitability is worth sleeping at night.

>>18706924
>Historical record of cash amount by big players and institutions
They all know less than you...fuck the noobs...

Btw amazon is already at ATH, no what you are trying to tell us.

>>18706967
money is just such a bullshit concept in this day and age, yeah it’s been “working” so far but not now, not when we apparently need to come together more than ever. I hate that people think life needs to be this way, guided by money

>>18706847
>>18706967
THEN WATCH IT NOW

seriously dont start season 7 unless you have time to watch first three episodes back to back to back

also stfu stormy, no one wants to see your homemade hairdryer

>mfw nfw careers in science was first episode I ever saw
damn, i dont want to spoil any more

>>18706941

>>18706944
I see, that makes a lot of sense, thanks fren
I guess there's just one more thing I need to know
If I sell an options contract, knowing that the greeks remain the same, is it better to sell a contract that's closest to expiring because it's cheaper or should I go a few dates out so I don't get screwed by Theta?
>>18706977
Makes enough sense, I more pictured that after it goes past a certain point it just plummets into the abyss, perhaps that was too exaggerated on my end

also NEWBREAD???

>Sealab was a nonfiction work sent back in time as a warning, but we aired it as a late night cartoon instead

we were fools

>>18706968
>rather have fed fight off deflationary spiral
>deflationary spiral
this is quite rational
in my estimation, it is completely correct

Fighting inflation is a lot easier to do than deflation, it just takes a Volcker with the guts to do it.

>>18706999
>but not now
how is it "not working" now?
do you just mean economics and the exchange of something for goods and services?

>>18707002
ah sun I always knew you were legit.
I'm tempted to watch the whole show from start to finish before starting it honestly. The transformation over time of some characters like the henchmen, the monarch, and even hank and dean really needs the context to be appreciated. And the lack of movement in Rusty kek. Well I'll have to assess that for myself when I complete the journey...

>>18707031
When selling options, theta works in your favor: as time passes, the option becomes cheaper, so you can just buy it back at a steep discount as it approaches expiration.

>>18707041
I just kept posting here when the shitposters migrated...

>>18706954
>>18706954
>>18706954

>>18707053
That doesn't sound bad actually, it's a loss but not a huge one. I guess I was more asking if whether or not a cheaper sell contract would encourage or discourage other people from buying it

>>18707047
>ah sun
wrong one

also trying to figure out which venture bros are the real ones the title refers to is difficult

>also also more double crossess by the end of season, but also new friends

that show is a damn masterpiece, its grown bigger than half the shit it used to parody

and I love it

>>18707058
ah, I bout to hit the bong then pass out for the night i thinks

>>18706228
Sauce me

>>18707047
by now i mean in this current time this very second. if we are supposed to be globally united to hide from this cold then we need to be globally untied on all fronts, financially, industrially, socially, politically. In a real time of crisis we cant worry about finances, we need action not money, money is an outdated concept when compared to the level of man power and automation. we just need an entire overhaul of society from the ground up but that wont happen. we could be post scarcity in our lifetime

>>18706447
What about strangles?

>>18707075
I'm not sure what you mean. The contract price itself is determined by Black-Scholes. Strikes that are closer to the current price of the underlying are more likely to be traded, but you can always find hedges (or retards) trading deep OTM.

>>18707099
ah shit nikka I often have a hard time keeping posters straight. I know most of the posters I like, the rat and the sun and bible/qipaobro (I think also medical physics bro or something?). Also the dudeweed unless that's also you.

>>18707159
oops that was an accidental namefag
>>18707099
enjoy your bongies

>>18707152
I meant the premium price that people pay to buy an options contract, since time decay makes it cheaper for the options closest to expiration.
Would people be more likely to buy the options contract I'm selling if it's say, for example, a call that expires on the 1st of May or a date later down the line? Because theta might work for me, but it works against them.

>>18707159
idk i do math rants at times because engineeringfag, but seeing how i basically never even namefag anymore idk

>>18707206
Oh no i meant as your job, there's one anon who works in medical with the rad techs. Or actually I think you're the recently unemployed as well?

I should really learn some coding and relearn some maths with all this time. Or something. GS had a good interview with the people behind coursera, might have to look into it.

>>18707234
unemployed student for year and a half nowz

>>18707196
Depends on how liquid the market for that stock is. In something like SPY it's easy to find buyers for basically every expiration you need. Your trading platform should be able to show you how much volume a certain strike/date pair is trading.

>>18707281
>MRO has a little over 500 volume for a $5 call
>SPY has 3500 volume for a 284 dollar call
Huh, I guess that clears everything up for me
Thanks a lot fren, we're all gonna make it

>>18706577
BYND.

>>18707279
WELLLLLL at least I've kept some of the story straight.

I hope your instructors have handled the switch to online better than mine.