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>>18682261
move

Anonymous (ID: E7a8lvKS) 04/25/20(Sat)21:15:32 No.18682268▶
>>18682261 (OP)
move

Not necessarily... Just get a second nationality ;-) No need to move...

Anonymous (ID: FHji9Ynk) 04/25/20(Sat)20:21:23 No.18682338▶

Anonymous (ID: E7a8lvKS) 04/25/20(Sat)21:15:32 No.18682268▶

>>18682261
move

>>18682268
>>18682363
I already have. Working and permanently living in a country different than my country of origin. How do I hide my money from the taxman?

(pls don't tell me to go live in shitholes like Bulgaria or Moldova for the low tax rates)

>>18682530
im way out in western europe but i sure as hell wouldnt call bulgaria or moldova shit holes

>>18682530
Monaco then. Idjit.

>>18682338
what about the US. They are one of two countries that thinks they own you no matter where you move. It's time to burn this shit down.

>>18682261
its called theft when there is no social contract

>>18682602
i would

>>18682261
If you are a wagie, it’s over.
If not, gimme a call

t. tax assessor

>>18682530
The countries with low tax rates are shitholes huh. Go figure

>>18683166
i live in a shithole with over 60% total tax burden.

>>18683230
Дoбpый вeчep, я тoжe

>>18683099
"yes mr taxman take my money and anally impregnate my wife, i'm just glad to be part of society"

>>18683143
I could put most of it in safe investments and (partially) live off them. BTC seems safe enough, not sure if I can hide it from the taxman. Could also do index funds for long-term safety, but idk if they can even be hidden.

>>18683166
Did I insult someone from the eastern Balkans? Lmk when you guys have cars and not carriages

>>18683337
>"yes mr taxman take my money and anally impregnate my wife, i'm just glad to be part of society"
that's not a social contract tho. a social contract states your obligations and also the services protection and benefits you are entitled to in return.
taxes in general are not theft. but in my country it basically is. when the redistribution grows to the insane size it has here corruption basically takes over everything. and when most of the redistributed money goes to the extended family and friends of those in charge, it becomes the basic mechanism which by the economy functions.
so in my eyes it depends what you get in return and how much they take. they can take a lot and give a lot and provide you great quality of life like in nordic countries or they can take very little and give back very little like in some others but at least you can make it if you are smart and work hard and at least you are free.
the worst kind is when they take a lot steal most of it and throw you under the bus. which is why i pay next to no tax. not because i'm against taxation as a concept but because i'm not supporting this particular system here and the criminals that run the country.

>>18683439
I think I know where you're from. Brazil/Bulgaria would be second guesses.

I'll be paying about 300k/y in taxes within the coming 6 years. I can fund a whole developing country for that money. I'd rather keep it and use it better than pay for some idiot's arts degree. I see your point though.

>>18682261
sorry to redpill you, bruh, but taxation is like gas in your car tank. you have to pay for it because you demand services.

the real theft begins when your money is spent on shit.
when taxpayers' money goes to space exploration, fire departments, etc, it's OK.
when taxpayers' money goes to gay/LGBT support, zionist wars, etc, it's not OK.

thing is, you cannot throw your tax money at specific targets, with the very exception of elections.
and even if you vote for the perfect honest man, you will still need the majority of voters to do the same.

TL;DR: taxation is not a theft. theft may start soon after taxation

>>18683099

The social contract says this money robbed from my future family is being used to racially replace my people, pay for government agents to use violence against me and to indoctrinate the youth.

Did you know the state television in the Netherlands alone receives almost 4 BILLION Euro? I don't even want to know how much they spend on left wing propaganda in Germany but I reckon it's in the tens of billions.

>>18682261
>be me
>born and bred in country A
>study IT in country A
>move to country B to work because minimum salary in country A is fucking 600€
>"shit man, I really pay a lot of taxes here in country B"
>open "company" in country A
>company in country A receives my daily rates from my client in country B
>country A has lax fiscal policy for small businesses
>luckily, mine has exactly one person - me
>pay myself a very low net salary
>pay myself a shit load of money for "travel & business expenses" per day
>travel & business expenses don't pay taxes for me OR my company
TL;DR
>make ~60k net a year
>paid around 2k in taxes last year
The system is byzantine, but you can get around it. Use a little of that legal income to hire a good tax lawyer.

>>18683099
The social contract say your money must be redistributed to both the richest member of society and to people who decided to live on gibs or neetbux.

>>18684078
To make your analogy more complete, some workers extract the petroleum from the soil and are paid with kopecks. Then, the emir take his share.
It is shipped in a rusty ship that may sink, the crew is paid about $100 for the six week travel and back.
Some people transform it into gasoline get paid some $.
Then the price is multiplied by 3 by the time it goes to the service station, and then by 2 thanks to uncle Sam.

And to make your analogy complete, you have to refill the tank of the guy after you and to pay for it, because the guy we vote for decided you must give him that.

>>18683683
>tax avoidance
what you mean to say is 'tax mitigation'.
there are plenty of tax havens and tax friendly countries(see pic related). You need to set up a corp>shell company that is untraceable to you. Alternatively, if you are that obsessed and upset of being cucked, move to a place like Monaco, British Cayman islands(you won't).
Find out whether or not your current country of citizenship, taxes you on wordlwide income or not. Before you move, make sure the country you are going to has dual citizenship with your current country. Then renounce your original country's citizenship(if they tax you on worldwide income)

It's ironic that you are asking for free advice on Soup Can image board, yet won't pay an international tax lawyer and accountant to help you. The reason wealthy people pay little to no tax is that they have a team of advisors that keep track of laws, rules, methods etc on an on going basis.

>>18683230
it's your own damn fault for electing politicians that put the burden on you instead of your boss or the local magnate.

>>18682261
1) Set up a "business" in Malta

2) Set yourself up as a contractor employed by the maltese shell company

3) Bill all your work to the maltese company

4) Write off your salary as a business expense

Simple as that.