/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18672525
MacBook Pro on offerup

Kek
>what’s a good laptop for a student under $1k

>>18672525

>>18672742
Came here to post this. Thanks for beating me to it Giga Chad.

>>18672742
>>18672758
Hello fellow patricians.

>>18672525
asus is always solid

>>18672758
Anytime, Brad Bro

>>18672525
I'd recommend a used MacBook on eBay in great condition but even a new HP 15t 10th gen i7 will go for about $600.

Whatever you do, google the specific CPU and click on the cpubenchmark.com link. Don't get anything under a 4000 score. For $1000 don't go under 6000. My MacBook Air's i5 scores about 3000ish but will be dated in a few years.

>>18672525
macbook air 2020

>>18672525
>get chromebook
>disable write protection
>flash new BIOS
>install Linux distro, maybe GalliumOS

Alternatively, if you don't want to go through all that and possibly brick your chromebook
>get chromebook
>enable Linux Beta in settings
>now you have a virtual Debian

>>18672525
thinkbook pro

>>18672530
>>18672840
>>18672842
Are macbook actually good for programing?
I'm trying to go in economics with a specialisation in econometric data science, yet I don't know shit about programming. Most of the ai softwear we'll use, will be on windows. Yet I was still planing to learn linux.

>>18672525
thinkpad T series

>>18672880
This but stick to GalliumOS. Many chromebooks will have audio issues with other distros. GalliumOS is geared towards flashed chromebooks.

>>18672776
I've had three Asus. Every one has had something fucked up out of the box.
This one fortunately is only the speakers.
The prices are okay, but they obviously get assembled in the factory with the 3-year-old china girls instead of the 6-year olds. So it's dicey.

>>18672840
>cpubenchmark.com
no site at that url

>>18672525
>working on a laptop

Get one with an hdmi port and as many usb ports as possible.

>>18672978
Also Chromebooks are super cheap. If it's just for business and programming, Chromebook with GalliumOS is the way to go. I recommend looking up on the GalliumOS website first to see if there are any compatibility issues.

>>18672965
You can put any OS on Mac with BootCamp.
I wouldn't recommend virtualization if you're going to go with a resource intensive application, and would use Bootcamp instead, but I run Windows 10 and Linux at the same time on my Mac with VirtualBox. You could always do that first and see if you don't like it then go the Bootcamp route instead.

>>18672880
Should I trust something made by google, for my datas?

>>18673041
Would that take a lot of space?

>>18673011
whoops
https://www.cpubenchmark.net

>>18672525
gonna dev python apps and deploy using docker containers def get macbook

>>18673057
grats anon

make sure you get the new ryzen chip
it slays

>>18673056
BootCamp partition at least 80GB per OS on the safe side.
Virtualization: Prob takes 10GB per OS on top of your MacOS. You create a dynamic virtual disk that expands in memory for any files you add in the virtual OS.

256GB and never had problems with storage since flash drives and external drives are so inexpensive.

>>18673102
Also I don't like the Mac trackpad sensitivity in Windows so I'd recommend a wireless mouse.

>>18673041
>I run Windows 10 and Linux at the same time
on how much ram though?

>>18672525
thinkpad t or dell latitude 74xx series. you can find decent deals on them

>>18673137
great picks

>>18672965
Yup, Unix and Linux go hand in hand. All you really need is visual studio code and your terminal. MBP keyboard is also very nice

>>18673171
latitudes especially are reliable and easy as hell to fix. i still use a 7450 everyday. have dropped it off of server racks dozens of times and have only had to replace the screen once, which took maybe an hour.

>>18672525
>>18672742
It's a thinkpad, anyone who tells you different is a pleb, and wrong

>>18673137
>>18673224
Those thinkpad look interesting just basic enough to not be overpriced. Do the cheaper ones usualky come with the water proof keyboard? That could be usefull I want to use my computer while drunk a crowded student bar, after class.

>>18673137
Also the latitude has a starting price of 1700$, so that might be above my budget.

>>18672525
2020 MacBook Air

Spend no more than $300-400 dude. You're trading and programming, not playing video games kek

>>18672525
get a thinkpad. formerly IBM built machines bought out by lenovo. they are solid workstations that are preferred by fortune 500 companies.

>>18673345
this

Used MacBook Air, they are punishingly bulletproof. I've had the money for an upgrade but I have absolutely no interest in upgrading my '13.

You can program on a toaster, and thinkorswim doesn't really require any power either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VotJ1IZPSw&t=1s

>>18673137
This

Dell for PC

>>18672965
Look it up, they are typically better for programming

Laptop day trader here
In order to day trade you will want the ability to receive large amounts of updates on an individual stock's price per minute, but it depends on what time frame you place your charting program in (1m/5m/15m+)
This means that if you are hawk-eyeing a stock during a trading session of 30 minutes or so, you will want to know exactly how much the stock fluctuates in price per volatility as fast as you can get it - a slow processor will not be your friend here, and I would suggest an i7 series or AMD equivalent processor in any laptop you buy, plus a good amount of heat dispersion for the laptop because larger or more powerful trading platforms will be more resource demanding for your system.
If your laptop slows down and chugs on heavy volatility opening bell trading minutes you will miss small changes in price fluctuation that may be the difference between you buying a stock 10 to 15 cents below market value and buying one way above what you wanted if your software takes too long to place a trade.
A good internet connection (read: above 10mBps) is also very important, and is equally as essential to day trading as a fairly well equipped computer is. This one should be self explanatory
>what about graphics
If your integrated or dedicated GPU can handle 2+ monitors you should be in fine shape. Any competant trader can trade with 1 monitor, but being able to check several different stock charts, keep updated on level 2 info or other news events without taking your eyes off of your primary trading screen for any given chart is important once you get into the full swing of trading.
If you need any more help just let me know, I have been studying how to effectively do this hellish grind for the past 5 years and it is my main income source.

>>18672965
yeah that's what pros use, esp for mobile development. elite pros use linux

>>18673543
>Laptop day trader here

implying you're not a larper, can you provide an insight into your lifestyle? do you make significant gains? how did you devise your trading strategy?

>>18673131
I have 16GB ram, I give each VM 4GB it’s more than enough in most cases. I don’t use any Ram hogs software wise though. One thing to remember with Macs is you usually won’t be able to upgrade ram.

>>18673296
OP i have no idea the requirements those programs need, have you given us a run down of the specs you need? like
3.2ghz processor
8gbs ram
1tb harddrive
shitty video card

thats just an example but you get the point
also fuck brand name, its all about the parts inside

>>18673519
Inspiron is solid and not as expensive as XPS.
Most importantly not Lenovo.

https://smile.amazon.com/ASUS-IPS-Level-i5-8300H-GeForce-2666MHz/dp/B07L28M2CB/ref=psdc_13896615011_t2_B07JF6HRJ1
here is a good laptop for under 750, it also has the ability to be upgraded, so for less then 900 you could buy that and make it 16gigs of ram and put in a 1tb hard drive to supplement the tiny 256 m.2

>>18672965
Yeah, I do scientific computing programing and generally use a mac.
macos has a lot of the benefits of a linux box, without all of the autistic ricing required. I've fallen for the thinkpad/arch/i3 meme before, in general it was a complete waste of time. If you want a super custom setup just learn emacs.
but really any os will do for learning c and python, there are some annoying aspects of windows if you're a programmer, but you can mostly get around them. For under 1k you can probably pick up a decent second hand business laptop.

>>18673673
good details thank you
I don't touch macs just because of that kind of stuff. Everything's so restrictive. You can't even emulate the OS in a virtual machine.
In fairness, I'm a real cheapskate.

>>18674069
*Apple products

>>18673778
>Does not ship to Canada.
Damn it!
>>18674031
Can you still use Excell and Powerpoint on a mac?
Also what business laptop would you recomand. I've never liked apple product, because I always felt like you just pay for the brand, but maybe I'm wrong.

>>18672965

Go lurk on /g/ for a month.

Macbooks are trash. Get a thinkpad or Asus n slap Ubuntu on it. If you need windows, dual boot or load it on a vm.

>>18673720
I think i'd need one that have to specs at least.

Intel core i5 at least the 8th generation

8gb Ram

1 gb of videocard

1000gb hdd

An SSD.

A few usb ports.

>as for the specific requirement for the programs tought at school.

I know there's some self learning programs that we'll have to work with, but I don't know much else.

>>18674109
yeah you're definitely paying a premium for it, but in my case it's practical, since many of my coworkers also use macs, and I some other apple products that pair well with it.
the best pick for used business laptops are thinkpads. They're sturdy, have great keyboards, and are just well made. I still have an x220 that's survived many botched circuits, drops, and general neglect. It's still completely functional after nearly a decade.
and yes, excel and powerpoint are on mac. I'd probably go for a thinkpad in your case though. Other solid business laptops like dell's latitude line are also pretty good, though I'd prefer a thinkpad over it.
/g/ has an obsession with thinkpads, and I believe there's a buyers guide somewheere updated every once and a while.

>>18672525
Get a used rugged Dell latitude on ebay.

They used to be fucking expensive but all these government agencies are going broke with budget cuts so they are flooded on ebay.

Good deal on a well built I7 CPU laptop imho

>>18674159
so OP i would seriously look at the laptop i linked to above, it has a slot for a ssd, and a second ram slot.
if you don't feel safe upgrading the laptop yourself, a pc repair place could easily do it, and hopefully for less then $100 if you brought the supplies with you
having extra ram is always good so might as well upgrade at same time, and that should also keep it under $1000

>>18673543
LARP detected

You need low latency for day trading. If you have satellite internet with 1GB/S but 1000ms ping then you wont be able to trade as well as someone with a 3mb/s 3ms ping

It takes fuck all data to send stock numbers through even then, if you use trading view or similar then their servers do all the work and your computer can be shit and not make a difference. Just have enough RAM to open multiple tabs, dual monitors is a meme, just have one big screen and split your tabs

Getac v100 off ebay. If you're thinking about a dell, watch the mission impossible fallout bathroom scene

>>18672525
stop being poor

>>18673296
you can buy a latitude 7450 for $250 on ebay
if you're patient, you can find a 7480 or 7490 open box for $600. why are you looking at list prices on the manufacturer website, lmao

>>18674261
Yes we all know that you can trade stock from a russian potatoe. But if your laptop keep lagging because it is old, it can fuck up your transaction all I really need is a laptop that is not that heavy and who can run multiple pages of internet and microsoft excell. But since I'm going to spend money on a brand new laptop because my old one is 10 years old. I might as well buy a good one.

>>18674517
I would go with a surface pro with 4g. Its got plenty of ram, cheap, looks nice and if your wifi goes down or you travel then you know you can still trade through cellular data.

While we are here .. does anyone know where I could fin a free scan of this book?

>>18674966
libgen is your friend my friend

>>18674517
I like my lenovo flex 14. Haven't really tried programming on it because the screen size is kinda small, but it works pretty well for browsing and doing shit on office.