/biz/ - Business & Finance

FUCK PEDOPHILES

https://last10k.com/sec-filings/refr/0001493152-20-007022.htm

REFR to the moon

>>18670892
>tfw GF finds this /ck/ fagg0t "not even ugly"

also buy ETH

>>18670914
damn I can't imagine being short and left-handed
I can't imagine letting someone short and left-handed be around children
ew

>>18670945
>Tel Aviv

The only trade I made today was an RTX purchase and I'm 100% long

>Anglosphere peak hours
>Thread drown in tranny and anime images
What exactly makes the angloid and their "culture" so "different" from normal human europeans?

I lost so much fucking money today, bros. What’s a stock that can give me 100% gains in under a week like KOS. I’ll await responses as I drink the pain away.

>Greatest oil crisis in history
>Greatest debt crisis in history
>Greatest unemployment in history
>Largest stimulus in history
>Stocks almost all time high
*sips*

Another anon said selling covered calls on high dividend stocks is a bad idea, because they may get called away early. But in the case of a covered call that I purchased well below the strike, I and having trouble figuring out why I should be that bothered?

I am retarded and I don't usually care about divvies. I'm trying to wrap my head around why this is so bad. The worst the buyer of my option can ever do to me is force me to sell to them at profit.

>>18671029
Could ask the same with ausies and shitposting.

>>18671037
TVIX. Ride or die, bitch. I'm letting you on board. pick or stay on the side walk.

>>18671037
I had fat gains from CCL CZR and CNK

>>18671061
Tvix fucked me today. On to Monday.

Grats to the guy who was shilling CHK.

>>18671056
>ausies
Protip "mate", aussies are a part of the anglosphere too. The anglosphere is basically on the clock from midnight europe to lunchtime europe. East coast goes to sleep, west coast awakens. West coast gets sleepy, aussies take over.
It's a neverending shitshow with those faggots.

Who /tankerchad/ here?

>>18671072
today was nothing. It will go up and down 20% regularly with volatility like this.

But if you buy TVIX and have a strong hand, you will have bought the top of the clown market.

>>18671072
>>18671087
witness my plan, brotha

the vix hasn't been this high since '08.

>>18671082
Please tell me you got in with the smart people 2+ weeks ago and are not just chasing after the fact like a dumbass

this is my first time on /smg/ on weekends, what does these threads usually do when theres no market open

>>18671037
LK

Who the fuck is buying TSLA? None of the investment banks or hedge managers are

>>18670892
Bought shares for HLX. Is it good anons? Im new to the stock market so help a brainlet out please

>he fell for the Russia hoax trade war impeachment African swine flu Iranian missile strike WW3 national deficit rate hike rate cut airborne aids chink flu oil price war debt crisis health crisis economic recession depression oil crisis unemployment crisis inject bleach meme

>>18671080
So, it's like a shitty version of the British Empire? The sun never sets on it?

The only trade I made today was an RTX purchase and I'm 100% long

>>18671108
I looked at tankers two weeks ago but assumed if you guys were already doing it we were already in the hype phase but apparently I underestimated you

>>18671113
Meet me irl so I can beat the living fuck out of you.

MRO - Before the virus and shit this was at $12 - 14 a pop. With the high being 18 bucks. It's now at under 5. Seems like an easy play; bag it now and wait for winter to come in 8 - 9 more months. Think of all the Gas and Oil getting sucked out along with a higher stock price. I've got 748 shares already, if this should dip even more, hell I'll buy more.

>>18671120
Pretty much. Only this time, the sun never stops shitting on everyone and then feel superior about their shitting..

>>18671114
90% people covering shorts and 10% elon diehards, just enough to keep causing short squeezes

>>18671120
The anglosphere is literally just the former empire and America dummy, which is why pajeets shitpost in English too

stop fighting it bobos

has there been a study yet on why aussies are fucking turbo autistic spastics online

>>18671037
>I want 100% GAINS in 1 WEEK
>Tell me how
This is the problem with you millennial faggots. Zero attention span or patience, go long or get fucked like the gambling speculator you are.

>>18671168
>haha its just banter m8

>mfw I enter the tech market this dec

>>18671139
The icing on the cake is that they're going to pay the divvy during all this shit. Which for me is 37.4 more a quarter. That's 7.48 more shares each time asumming the price per share stays at 5

>>18671184
Why wait so long

>>18671173
>hurr durr go long

Who the fuck has time for that, you utter faggot? Time is money. I’m not going to wait 10 years to double my portfolio. I’d rather play balls to wall and double my portfolio as soon as possible then wait on my normalfag simp ass. The stock market is basically a crypto market now, and you best start treating it as such. Imagine unironically not profiting off this crab market. Fuck you.

>>18671055
Couple things I do;

-If you get assigned on that covered call you flip that money into a cash covered put immediately.

-Have a healthy stable of divvy stocks you rotate through, sell covered calls on the stocks you think are least likely to moon and never have an expiry date close to an ex dividend date

-never sell a covered call with a strike below your cost basis

Don’t sweat the equity value of the portfolio, look at cash flow from divvies and premium.

will new york's economy ever recover or is it on track to become detroit 2.0

>that notification when a stock you already sold pays you a dividend

It’s like when an ex sends you sexy pics to try and get you to miss her. Pretty good feel.

>>18671226
Detroit is going to be the next big gentrified city. Long Detroit

Bobos are gong to get slaughtered next week.

>>18671226
Gee I dunno... was Detroit the financial capital of continental North America? That would make it totally comparable.

Should i buy into MRO or am I too late

>>18671244
Why is the black population now 100%?

>>18671257
Still plenty of upside left to tap, your getting in at the bottom still.

>>18670945
Are you still bagholding from 2000 when it was above $25?

>>18671228

>>18671254
detroit had strong kangz

>>18671213
>10 years
>I don't have the time so lemme piss away my pathetic savings speculating
>I'll have my big break I just know it
Whatever nigger have fun losing.

>>18671254
It was the industrial capital, if finance falls the way industry did New York will be an utter fucking ghetto

someone tell me how to short this pile of cow dung

lords i hope piece of shit zoom continues to dump monday it would change my life

>>18671308
what about the vibrant NYC nightlife? The parades, the NYE party?

Also, how will the finance sector fail if the government comes through with $2000/month helicopter money? Isn't it very bullish for banks?

>>18671111
Improve.

>>18671213
Zoomers like this are fucked in the head.

>>18671195
timing is important

>>18671354
>zoomer

I’m a millennial who is trying to break away from the shackles of wagecuckery.

>>18671226
Pennsylvania as a state is becoming Detroit 2.0 along with West Virginia

>>18671354
Yeah but he's right. I made roughly $5.5k in about two minutes on a shitty oil play. There was another anon who took it to the net level and shorted all the way down for much moni

>>18671365
Join the fucking club. If you want to gamble, go to Vegas. At least get a few free drinks and some T&A while you piss away your money.

>>18671338
Zoom dumping and GILD dumping are hopefully two more sparks to cause the fiery dump

>>18670905
>5th highest PE ratio

>>18671387
>I gambled and got lucky.
Epic

>can't stop thinking about how i sold oil short too early for some fucking pennies and a few days later it would be $500k

>>18671387
You gambled and got lucky. There are also other anons who gambled and were very unlucky. There's nothing wrong with having a small stack to gamble with, but it's high risk, potential reward. And it shouldn't be regarded as anything else.

>>18671376
Dang I was thinking about moving to Pittsburgh. I heard that city is worth it if your young and wanted to own a house and make some money on the side.

Anyone here still holding AMRS?

>>18670914
This

>>18670905
>>18671413
Bros, I bought puts on ZM today just before the crash. The premiums are MASSIVE. I bought ZM 120 PUTs Jun 19 and they were $7 before the crash, now they are $8. Yet they are still $40 out of the money. This is TSLA levels of premium.

Are any of you guys using DRIP since so many of these stocks are cheap or are you saving your divies on the side?

>>18671472
All divvies go to bonds or stay cash for buying of dips.

I look at it as this - I don't need the money right away. If waiting 9 months (or less) will see me get a big fat reward with holding MRO I'm all for it. Hell I held that shit ONTX for a few months and all I got from it was a 2200 loss (which I've made back all but 740 of it). I think the odds (and the charts) are way better in my favor with MRO delivering a fat payoff.

>>18671472
Automated DRIP makes life easier, so I keep on using it.

>>18671462
always

>>18671472
nah

Who /TVIX Gang/ here? Report in.

She's a harsh mistress. A wild horse. But she'll make a lucky few rich.

>>18671365
>>18671387
This is pretty much the reasoning behind it.

I'm trying to make a calculated play but thus far have pussied out due to my past irrational plays. Have only made "one" play, would've been about a 50% increase had I waited 1 more day to go in rather than a small loss.

There's a certain point where 1 good play gives you enough that even risking 10k won't screw you over. First goal is $3 million. Enough to retire. A cap of 100k yearly to try to gamble for even more, to aid my siblings escape from wagecuckery. Max 200k if I fail at being profitable. I wouldn't be in the stock market otherwise. If I fail and live to my 60s, well the government bails me out just like they do all the boomers and big companies. Retired in likely a small home but I can live my life similarly in that situation, difference is if I hit it big now I never have to wagecuck again.

>>18671508
Depending on lifestyle and shit hell you may not even need 3 million.

>>18671120
It's pretty based isn't it?

>>18671508
Only really lucky people make it with a couple big plays like that. You need to learn and develop your strategy so that you have some measurable statistical edge. It’s not 1 trade or 10 trades, it’s 100’s of trades and you’re doing it year over year. Go to Vegas or start buying lottery tickets if you want anything else.

>>18671507
100 tvix troop reporting in!

>>18671426
Lol. It's the reason I refuse to sell my 1 gamble.

Max loss about $330. But with the way it fluctuated it could easily become $1500. Didn't go in with more as I didn't have a gut feeling about this one unlike the other 2 where had I heeded the gut feeling by buying puts I'd have doubled my money. Intend to go in hard the next time I get this gut feeling as so far I've only had this feeling a few times and iirc it was correct each time, unlike me picking a direction and being right some of the time.

>>18671544
holy fug, if TVIX does spike and we're right, you're making a shitload.

mfw leveraged ETFs are literally shitcoins but better

>>18671507
I decided to hold a share over the weekend, hoping for a big ol boatload of chaotic news.

>>18671561
I hope so. Otherwise I wasted a year of savings.

What day trading strategies do you guys reccomend? I'm gonna take a break from options for a while because some fucky shit seems to be brewing.

>>18671537
Realistically it is about $2 million. That's enough but I'd rather play it safe. If I hit $1 million I wouldn't even bother with getting a job at that point. That's enough for more than 2 decades.

fuck why didnt i go in oil...

>>18671593
I look for things that are green to buy and then sell as soon as they turn red.

Is the housing market going to crash?

>>18671540
Kek, I had a 2200 loss from that shit ONTX. I hitched a ride with TRNX, went from 0.25 to 0.34. I walked out with 1460. So I'm only down almost 750. TRNX then shit a day later. Swore off penny stocks after I walked away. Then events delivered to me MRO on a sliver platter

>>18671582
I'm excited. Did you see the S&P closing? That last candle went bananas going red and green

>>18671623
Ah the ol' tried and true.

>>18671641
nah the fed just won't allow anyone to sell and will buy any garbage to keep it up

>>18671641
No one's paying their mortgages or rent, so yeah

>>18671343
Wasn't jp Morgan chase already expanding outside NYC die to excessive costs? NY is gonna have to raise taxes to get out of this mess so I don't see things getting any cheaper. Combine that with the realization most of their employees could work from home if necessary and I am not finance will be strong in NYC anymore.

Nightlife ain't coming back till wuflu is curable or vaccined.

>>18670892
Toast to the crabs? Fuck you and anyone that toasts the crabs. You need bulls and you need bears, that's a market. Crabs are an infestation of the market.

>>18671055
It depends on your objective. On a wheel, you want your main income to be the premium, whereas appreciation and dividends are just extras. Your wheel dies if it gets called away. The goal of the wheel kindof is exactly to reduce your cost basis so much that you eventually want to be called away anyway, and if you can collect dividend in the meantime, then all the better.
If you use something other than a wheel, such as merely writing covered calls forever, it's fine to do that on dividend stocks assuming your cost basis is so low that you don't mind. Similarly, maybe your goal is X% return, and you write calls based on theta. In that scenario, it doesn't matter what the underlying is at all, can be divvy stock or not.
That said, wheel proponents are divided on whether to use divvy stock anyway, some want divvy so that they get a 4th type of income in the wheel, but personally I prefer the increased income from improved premium (this will also depend on your choice of delta).

>>18671641
I don't know how malls survive this. Either the retail chains inside them eat shit and have to leave or the REITs eat shit and have to fold.

>>18671694
I haven't seen any American numbers except for new housing starts which were fucking abysmal, but Toronto's home sales are already down almost 20%.

>>18671213
I'll wait for your pink wojak spergout because you gambled and lost big

>>18671593
It takes smart people years to understand what the hell they're doing on the chart, you're probably better off playing around with options

>>18671142
..

>>18669789
>Lol someone just bought 3.3 million dollars of 1500 Jan 2022 TSLA calls.

Maybe this makes perfectly sense with the current oil prices?

Dropped by gas station today. Price: $0.57 leaf per litre. Fill half tank. $13. I am acutely aware of what has happened to the oil price as I have traded it a couple times this month, but still. It's really weird rolling up to gas station and price is less than half what I usually paid in 2019.

Of course, where oil is trading right now my gas price should be another 20% less than it is now including the tax and levies and gib government surcharge.

>>18670914
yeah pedos are fucking stupid and deserve to be locked in cages

>>18671641
Nope. It's going to stay like this just to spite me and my plans.

>>18671714
Buy my puts goy

>>18671678
Oh baby I did. I'm cautiously optimistic.

>>18671694
>>18671704
>>18671721

I just want a modest home for 100k at a low interest with a 15 year fixed in the PNW. Is that too much to ask for?

>>18671718
Good dividend stocks tend to be low volatility which reduces the likelihood of getting assigned.

Is CAR a good investment to hold long? 100 shares is 1300 bucks but could have a return of over 5k when the economy reopens.

>>18671845
No go live in klamath

>>18671845
Where are you trying to live?

>>18671845
Not at all my good man, just wait 6 months.

>>18671760
Idk

Some guy I think is super smart and was into BTC and eth years and years ago is super super super bullish on TSLA.

His thesis is exponential growth of solar efficiencies. Thinks TSLA will be a trillion dollar company one day.

>>18671866
I live in Portland, OR.

>>18671855
The margins of rental car companies were even worse than airlines before this started. Hertz was entering Uber territory with quarter after quarter of no net revenue

>>18671897
you're never going to get a house for 100k in Portland
try and move inland and get a cheap house before inflation ratchets up, you have a couple years

>>18671641
100% dead, the problem is its going to be slow. think a full year til the bottom same with the stock market and crypto will get pulled down with it too. Long TVIX, short IWM park tendies in T, WFC, AMZN, APPL, MSFT.

>>18671936
Okay under 200k?

>bought a $300k house in Portland
>it’s worth $400k now

LMAO, I’m never selling.

>>18671855
>>18671898
rental car companies are fucked because they can't sell their used cars (it's an important part of their revenue)
auto companies are in trouble because of this too; a growing number of people lease new cars for a few years, then the car company gets the car back. but now they're getting back used cars and can't sell them for a decent price (and they can't sell new cars either...)

>>18671966
LOL no. You could maybe get a 1 bedroom shack for $250k out in Gresham. Move to Salem.

>>18671983
I might do that.

>>18671470
Holy fuck I'm baffled by the zoom drop. Do you think it's likely to start leveling again? I was thinking that when the Facebook call features have been out for a while there must be users going back to zoom after establishing personal preference.

Kek, I get by on a shit 27k a year (Wife also works and makes about the same as me). So I figure if we have over 200,000 income when I'm an old fucker we'll be doing pretty good. This is like 8,300 a month. The only debt is the house so 8,300, even with inflation would cover pretty much everything.

>>18671848
Good divvy's low volatility means it's more predictable and therefore easier to predict what will end up otm or not, but unless you're careful it will be called early by the buyer looking to complete his objective via dividend yield. If you close sufficiently before ex-dividend date, it could work great though.

>>18671113
Jej underrated.

>>18671893
>exponential growth of solar efficiencies
The fuck is he spouting?

>>18671102
Dude your chart fucking sucks, go fix it.

>>18671893
>exponential growth of solar efficiencies
They still have no most one solar panels. I think anything Tesla does Porsche and BMW can do better

>>18671078
Truckeranon here. Traffic seemed heavy as fuck passing through San Antonio today. Looks like TX is on the verge of opening back up. Do with that what you will.

>>18671969
>>18671983

I'm hoping you're wrong though and in a year I'll buy a house around Mount Tabor for a 3rd of the current price.

>>18672020
Excuse me? Zoom should have never been this high to begin with, its literally pure hype. Its being banned by major companies and government for being Chinese spyware, and the vast majority of new users are free, and they will never pay. They are literally burning money to provide free video chats for a hundred million people with no upside.

>>18672039
I never do covered calls near an ex dividend date for that reason. I rotate through my ponies on a semi loose schedule.

>>18672065
That's retarded. Tesla is a car company, not a tech company. Bitcoin bro was fucking lucky, not smart

>>18671078
I took a risk on that stock when it was .14. It reverse split my 1000+ shares to 5, then the value halved. Today, after many many weeks of agony, it might be turning around. Still 30 bucks under but its a fuckuva lot better than being 250 under. Also got a trail stop in place in case this shit plunges on Monday.

>>18672082
>Mount Tabor

Those are million dollar homes now. Even if they dropped %50 you still couldn’t afford one.

>>18672094
Tesla makes battery units for homes and shit too. However I haven’t seen any exponential growth in solar. Huehue

>>18672116
Cool story bro, so do 100 other companies

>>18671893
Exponential growth in solar efficiency is fucking retarded. I've worked quite a bit with improving solar cell efficiency in the past. Everything from using alternative solar cell materials to difference solar cell architectures to different additives that can be used after solar cell manufacturing to capture more light. The fact of the matter is that those methods are either not robust/reliable/consistent enough to be put into practice, or their cost is prohibitively expensive, making them more suited for concentrated solar or space-based solar generation.

We have been making headway in reducing the cost of solar, and the amount of improvement in silicon solar cell efficiency over the past few decades is really remarkable, technically speaking. But there are some serious technical, physical hurdles with even the closest competitor that we haven't cracked, and we've been working on them for decades.

>>18671898
>>18671970
Thanks bros, I'll stick to building my oil stocks, I'm trying to diversify but the only sector I can think of having growth is tech.

>>18672083
Not to mention Zoom already has most of the market share for video conferencing so there's little room for growth.

>>18672151
I attended a conference where some guy was claiming to be able to print solar panels as cheaply as newspaper with the catch of having to use small amounts of lead, which instantly torpedoed the concept from the EPA.

>>18672109
>>18672082

The only homes that might fall in value in in-demand urban and suburban areas will be the most expensive ones.
Supply for affordable single-family homes is too low, and demand is way too high, for prices to fall significantly

AHHHHHHH
DUUMMMMMPPPP

>>18672094
Tesla is a tech company that happens to make cars, the Apple of cars. Full self driving is basically the only thing that can catapult in into the trillion market cap, but if they solve it then they're golden.

>>18672151
Thoughts on PV cells? They gonna be a robust part of the energy market or no?

>>18672165
If you're looking for growth, look at BAM. Lmk if you wanna get the redpill on it.

its going to dump next week so place your puts...

>>18670892
For those who say Crona-chan is just a nothingburger, consider this:

Chinese Government don't care about Chinese lives. If it's really a nothingburger, the Chinese Gov would not have quarantined an entire province for 76 days.

>>18672261
Friday I think

>>18672236
>tech company that makes cars
does ford and gm not have scientists and engineers (probably more too)?

>>18672236
>Full self driving is basically the only thing that can catapult in into the trillion market cap, but if they solve it then they're golden.

You say that like its a walk in the park. Solving this means theyve cracked human tier AI. Driving is complicated as fuck. We make hundreds, sometimes thousands of micro calculations every time we're behind the wheel. Not to mention the sort of laser tech you need to see out hundreds of yards ahead and avoid hazards. Modern guidance systems shit the bed under a little rain.

>>18672230
It's friday night, anon.

>>18672251
Redpill me bro

I have invested in Beyond the meat

It's the new Mac donald

>>18672236
Photovoltaic cells and solar in general, along with wind, hydro, and geothermal, will be supplemental, not the main source. Their percentage will grow as coal declines, but only up to a point.

>>18672282
AHHHHHH

>>18672280
Can confirm this. Have a 2019 Nissan where the collision avoidance system shits the bed during heavy rain and snow, which is ironically when it would be most useful.

>>18672262
It is a nothing burger. Look at the numbers. Total cases divided by total population. It's under 0.1% everywhere. Most people dieing are old, and they die from the regular flu so there's that.

Imagine, the rest of the free world follows in the footsteps of what communist china does to contain the virus. Literally shutting in millions of people in cities because 70 people in a building have it. Lmao.

STAY HOME
STAY SAFE

>>18672179
Yeah. There's been a lot of research into non-lead-based photovoltaic alternatives recently for that exact reason (environmental). Printable, flexible, cheap, etc., you name it. Great for research funding and grant writing, but their efficiencies are far too low, and the materials themselves degrade rapidly. I was working with a team looking to integrate those types of cells with standard silicon- and silicon-like PVs. Interesting route, but same problem.

>>18672236
There are long-term environmental impacts from the PV life-cycle that most people don't consider when touting them as "green energy" alternatives to fossil fuels. This includes their manufacture and their disposal. That might be a headwind, but probably worth the cost in most people's minds. As it stands, the amount of effort that's been devoted to squeezing every drop of efficiency out of silicon PV is truly incredible. We are reaching its limit, though, and have yet to bring its costs in-line with fossil fuels. For that reason alone, it will only remain a supplement in the energy generation system, not a corner stone.

>>18672280
There's some money out there to be made in optical detection/emission systems, specifically for this very application. We were working on a few grant/research ideas to target it, at least prior to Corona-chan shitting on everything.

>>18672308
what will be the main source?

>>18672343
Nuclear should be. Will it be? Who knows with those fucking hippies.

>>18672343
Nuclear. The answer has always been nuclear.

>>18672343
It has to be nuclear. It's the only power source that can deliver large quantities of power consistently and reliably. This is, of course, assuming the "green" policies continue.

I want to long COP what do you think boys

>>18672262
Look up Agenda 201

Also, take a look at the document below. Its from the RF. Literally spells out the same scenario, in which the world follows China into full lock down and imposes extreme laws on citizens, the rest of the world follows.
Whats that? Fourth of July? Cancelled. What's that you're with your friends? Fined.

Order out of chaos

https://www.nommeraadio(dot goes here)ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf

Why did the weed sector shoot up?

>>18672278
Tesla is the company the best engineers and software developers want to go to, Ford and GM are literal fucking memes. if you get a top five degree in software engineering I can assure you you won't spend it at GM.

>>18672280
>if they solve it
It's in no way a solved problem, they may never solve it, but if someone is gonna solve it it's gonna be Tesla. They don't use lasers, they use a fully optical system, which I personally think is more intuitive as the street was designed for eyes, not LIDAR. They have a fleet of 1 million vehicles or something collecting data on it. It might take 5 or ten years but I think it might just happen, look at SpaceX, revolutionized the launch industry and he's blown up 4 tin cans in boca chica but they might just get 100 tons into orbit with a fully reusable vehicle. Never say never.

>>18672339
Reasonable response, where do you work in? Love getting anons who actually know something about something. I have no issue with nuclear as both BAM and NEE have significant experience with nuclear operations (Westinghouse and Turkey Point respectively) but politically is a much harder sell imo than PVs or even wind and hydro. Lots of FUD potential.

>>18671041
what is zombie economy?

>>18672280
What about if every car has some kind of AI system in it, and they can talk to each other?
Thinking about it in terms of "one car = one AI" is simplistic and backwards-looking. Making self-driving that mimics a human (looks around itself with cameras and "thinks") isn't the only way to do self-driving...

>>18672353
Nuclear is cute and fun

>>18672381
LOL You can see her pee pee doesn't she know xd

Guys, are there any real accredited courses on trading be I can take? I have 1 year of GI bill left I want to use on it

>>18672391
>dude shut in work from home lmao
My bro works for an online vocational school and says students have been obviously smoking weed during class streams.

I feel like a lot of investment success is based on how lucky you were at the starting line. When I first started I ate shit hard as I invested right into a massive market correction 2 years ago. Took me a year and a half to make back the money. But the more money I accumulate through winning trades, the less loses impact my judgment and I have more house money to work with to build a profit wall around my initial capitol.

>>18671133
>buying long in meme zombie economy
it's ur money family

>>18672300
Asset manager with 5 segments: Private Equity, Distressed credit(Oaktree), Renewables, High-end Real estate, and Infrastructure. They're gonna fucking kill it with )aktree, they bought them expecting distressed debt last year and what do you know. Not to mention they hold shit that is incredibly resistant to market conditions, like pipelines and ports. Their largest weakness is malls, which make up a minuscule fraction of their business and they can easily subsidize them. They make money off rent, not sales. And if you think massive buildings in the middle of cities will just go empty, lol. And even if malls all went out of business. BAM would barely move. They're poised to take charge of the asset management space with Oaktree and ride the wave of a flight to safety when people realize alternative assets are where it's at. Not to mention their excellent investments in cash flowing energy and renewable infrastructure. They are ready to not only survive this downturn, but capitalize on it.

If people want returns, they won't go to the banks, they won't go to bonds, and the wealthy (who hate volatility) won't look to pure equities, you know where they'll look? BAM. It's that simple.

>https://bam.brookfield.com/~/media/Files/B/Brookfield-BAM-IR-V2/documents/%20Update_for_Brookfield_Shareholders_3-23-2020.pdf


Well well well, looks like Flatts and his team are already at work. Like a kid in a candy store.

>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-06/gip-brookfield-said-in-talks-to-team-up-for-adnoc-gas-pipelines

Link to the nuclear acquisition. Really cool to see just how aggressive Brookfield is when a deal is right.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-westinghouse-m-a-brookfieldbusinesspa/brookfield-business-partners-to-buy-westinghouse-for-4-6-billion-idUSKBN1ET1MQ

My wife wants to start putting money in the market for the first time and do the opposite of what I do to hedge risk. He says time in the market beats timing the market and that jesus couldn't call the bottom.
Is this bullish?

>>18671579
they're meme extreme when market dumps

WHich one of you posted the core exercises workout video? Could you repost it?

Do you have any other good ones?

(Don't buy PLNT, but NTDOY)

>>18671593
in the meme clownshit world, buy at end of red day. It will be greenday tomorrow, and you will be back to original predump price

>>18672381

>>18672425
>He
Lol

>>18672416
The first trade I made was buying a biotech right before the Advisory committee, shitty briefing documents were released and I lost 50% of my portfolio in one day. The pain was incredible. But then that same stock went up 600% in the next few months and I made a 150% profit. Gave me confidence but also insane fear, never again am I gonna be a fucking retard.

>>18672431
use inverse leveraged for dumps, bull leverage for pumps

>>18672396
>it's a much harder sell
Absolutely, but people will need to bite the bullet eventually. Global warming is a meme, but environmental change is very real, and ocean acidification (and similar problems) are going to be on our plate to deal with whether anthropomorphic global warming turns out to be accurate or not. At the end of the day, it's simply a matter of educating the public. Also, I do R&D for semi-related things, hence some background in PV.

>>18672406
You're talking about far reaching IoT-connectivity between vehicles and a similar supportive network and compute infrastructure capable of processing all of that data and transmitting near-instantaneously. It's a tall ask, but it's something that people with far-reaching time horizons would like to work towards. There is some research in that direction, and it's interesting to browse.

>nuclear is cute and fun
Ayyy. Someone needs to make a thorium-tan. That'll shut those hippies up.

>>18672469
yup, but don't sleep on any of that shit. Have principles and setup a proper position so you can auto fling the bag

>>18670914
>>18671468
>>18671764
https://i.4cdn.org/f/obergeil.swf

god ever since they restricted me from daytrading I'm getting absolutely fucked
and yet it's supposed to protect me from myself

>>18672366
>W
>>18672360
>>18672353

Nuclear fusion? But you always told cold fuision is a meme

>>18672396
No one wants to work for Ford or GM because you have to live in Detroit or some other flyover shit hole.

>>18672534
You only need $25k kiddo

Any Champignon Chads here?
Entered a position at .760.

>>18672381
That is a puffy vagina

>>18672456
why are you forcing this meme?

>>18672534
i experienced this too, but the upside is it teaches you to have iron hands

sit with $ on the sidelines until there’s a decent entry point, hold until 10% or more gain, sell

>>18672535
It is. Modern reactor design has substantially improved over what the general public understands, and there's always thorium. There are alternatives while we wait the next 50 years for a fusion development.

>>18672557
>vagina

>>18672575
>50 years for a fusion development.

More like 100.

>>18672535
No m8, fission.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor

I forget the deets but some smartie did the math and properly managed nuclear fission could power the human race at it's current rate of growth in energy consumption until after the sun burns out.

>>18672590
That's after this second 50 years. You've got to do it in 50 year increments to keep the hope alive.

>>18671710
i would love if the tech and finance companies start focusing on remote work. rent is too fucking high in most coastal cities. and every landlord is a fucking moron reaping in infinite money, while refusing to have the plumbing fixed.
people hate billionaire CEOs, but at least CEOs work. high tier corporate jobs are hard. the landlords i know are fucking retarded and easily overwhelmed

>>18672423
Thanks a lot man, I really appreciate it, and I'll cap this too. I don't have much but I think I can throw at least 200-300 bucks in buying some stock.
You think it's safe enough to do a covered call?
I wouldn't risk buying OTM but the 30 dollar call for May 15th is tempting.

>>18672606
If you look at the current fusion development schemes, the desperation is palpable. Lockheed is literally throwing teams of people at the problem and telling them to just try shit out to see if it works.

>>18672628
I can understand the desire. Imagine being scooped on what could quite possibly be the single largest technological breakthrough in human history. And the money. Infinite energy, infinite money.

>>18672472
Yeah, as a long term investor I try to take advantage of (mildly obscure) trends, I don't see the situation for oil getting any better, once the third world either collapses in on itself or becomes like china, the growth of oil is over. Renewables and utilities are gonna see growth no matter what. Liberals will push for more green energy, nuclear or otherwise. And the world will use more energy.

Really looking for ways to take advantage of space, I've got enough knowledge to know it's gonna be a gold mine for those positioned to profit off it. SPCE is not one of them imo. Been really interested in TDY, they do lots of contracting for governments, sensors and instruments. With strong fundamentals as well.
Once the public starts hearing about moon landings they will buy anything in sight space related, also thinking about TSLA cause if SpaceX does anything it might have an effect on their share price. RTX has a space division with military and civilian segments. NOC and OmegA is a meme, LMT has orion, Boeing has larger issues.

>>18672083
all of these are reasons for the price to go UP. dont you know anything about tech stock?
when a company is profitable, you know what its profit is. but when a company loses money, its profit could be anything. would you rather take the washing machine or the mystery box? take the mystery box! buy ZOOM! ZILLOW! SNAP! LYFT! THE BOX, THE BOX!

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/rosenberg-says-brace-for-60-cent-loonie-canada-downgrades-1.1426740

end my suffering bros..

>>18671274
how can inverse etfs pay you a dividend? shouldn't you be paying them instead?

>>18672623
Volatility is much too high for anything. DCA into it, I am 100% confident in BAM's ability to execute, but not in the markets ability to drag it down. The markets will do what they want and BAM will follow to a large degree, but they will come out of this stronger. It's not about the money you put in the market now, it's about the money you consistently put in throughout your life. Best to get a start now.

>>18672686
>tfw when i have to pay dividends on my inverse ETFs

>>18672686
the ETF is paying you the dividend not the underlying stocks

>>18672575
>It is. Modern reactor design has substantially improved over what the general public understands, and there's always thorium
so how far are we from it?
It's pointless to buy etf in that sector

>>18672598
>I forget the deets but some smartie did the math and properly managed nuclear fission could power the human race at it's current rate of growth in energy consumption until after the sun burns out.
fusion is a meme but fission is doable?
why?

>>18672723
When I said it is, I meant cold fusion is a meme, along with fusion (for the time being). Fission-based nuclear is perfectly viable as-is, and we have several concepts that could make it even more viable going forward. Write to your local representative. Toss a hippie into a reactor. Do your part.

>>18672678
>useless redundant tech start up is worth billions during a depression
>what is microsoft/skype, cisco/webex, slack, google, facebook
>on top of being Chinese spyware, Trump is going to slaughter these Chinese cancer companies
Yea, naw. This aint fucking UBER bruh. Its closer to WeWork, another disastrous shit show useless company with a "product" that was redundant.

>>18672734

Bulls are kill next week. I liquidated everything before close, gonna ride this next leg down baby.

>>18672755
>Toss a hippie into a reactor. Do your part.
What I wouldn't give to do that.

Got back into TQQQ today. Currently split between it, UGL, and TLT. Expecting a little less crab and a bit more bull

>>18672707
Bro wtf if the string gets slipped you'll die, don't do that shit bro

>>18671845

yes

>>18672706
Yeah I fucked up back with Dillards puts a while back when they pumped the market and lost 800 bucks, I've been studying stuff like the Greeks and whatnot hard ever since, I have another 1300 invested so far and plan to put in much more.
Options have just been tempting for me ever since I came up 1300 bucks after getting lucky, then volatility kicked in.
I figure I'll sell my CAR and MPC shares for a small profit and combine that with 200 extra bucks to buy into BAM.
How much are you holding right now if you don't mind me asking? I'm not trying to copy your homework I'm just curious.

>>18672273
That's what you guys said last week.

>>18672759
the farther it is from making a profit, the more time it has for its stock price to rise. the tech company that will never be profitable can rise infinitely

>>18671139
Why MRO over XOM

>>18672670
Buy TMDX. There are 0 (zero) competitors for their product. I don’t care what Google says, there are 0. This is being used by centers on a daily basis today.

>>18672772
Based chart poster. It's the DIX right?
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor/download/pdf/short_is_long.pdf?

Does this explain it well? Can you give me the long and short (lol) of it before I read it?

>>18671041
It's almost like this corona shit is an overblown nothingburger...

>>18672812
Most likely higher upside. Marathon plays in the unconventional areas more than Exxon does though.

>>18672670
>renewables and utilities are going to see growth no matter what
The problem with renewables that often doesn't get discussed is how their capacity to generate is often highly location-dependent, meaning that it's not going to be economically feasible to invest in renewable infrastructure at every location. That also leads into issues with transmission of the power that's generated from those regions that are highly suited toward generation from a specific type, say PV in the southwest of the US. Like I said, it will definitely be a part of the energy generation ecosystem, but nuclear really is our best bet going forward.

>>18672823
Read it first, then write out what you've learned. You'll learn more that way, and it's easier to correct misconceptions. The chart comparing the DIX to returns is fairly instructive.

>>18672808
>the tech company that will never be profitable can rise infinitely
topkek

>>18672833
I can't tell anymore if people are being sarcastic or actually believe in this return to normal.

>>18672772
They need to unload the stuff they bought in dark pools, dump won't happen until Wednesday night at the earliest.

would corona hurt the stock market more or less if there was no shutdown?
if we hit the worst case scenario and it kills ~3% of US and ~5% of globe, but businesses keep running?

>>18672812
More upside with my money. XOM I'd only get 81 shares. If I sold at the high of XOM I'd net only 6,642. MRO that same money got me 748 shares. At just 12 a share (which it was pre virus shit in Dec/Jan) I'd net 8,976. Also it's quicker to go from 5 to 12 than 40 to 84.

>>18671954
is WFC relatively safe I wanna drop a bundle on them

>>18672423
Fuck off shill. Nobody is buying your faggot stock or carrying your heavy ass bags lmao

>>18672422
>zombie
I’m shitposting from a vessel with over 20mil in single use RTX equipment. Kill yourself.

>>18672882
>>18672812
>>18672845
what do you guys think about COP. Might do something ignorant

>>18672808
People invest in non-profitable companies because they expect them to eventually become profitable. If the companies fail to show progress, investors will lose confidence and sell the stock.

>>18671139
Based MRO bro.


I have 30 shares and in two months I'm going to regret not buying a s*** ton more

>>18672905
So you admit you're fucking retarded? Bruh, think before you say stupid shit.

I'm new to this, but why are so many people riding on BAM's growth?

>>18672819
I like the company, but I don't have much experience in biotech, also they still aren't profitable iirc. I back you in your shill attempts, but I can't really be confident in buying it.

>>18672850
Ok

>>18672882
Another nice thing is that they're in the natural gas bis as well so even if oil is all still kinda fucked in 9 months (winter), the gas will still be sucked out in waves for heating uses (winter)

What am I buying tomorrow and what's my opinion of it?

DKNG - was just created today as a merger between three companies, it is now the ticker for DraftKings The first publicly traded sports betting company in America kek

I got in for 17 a share it's holding at around 20, and that's with literally every sport game canceled at the moment. Really hope this takes off like I think it will.

>>18672927
>>18672882
Any chance for bankruptcy?

>>18671462
LOL I remember AMRS bro, back in the day.

>>18671181
Who the fuck is Moot?

>>18672959
They have probably the strongest balance sheet in the oil industry, it's a company from the 1800s they are going to make it through this just fine.

I'm actually more worried about my Exxon Mobil shares becoming worthless than I am Marathon.

I need some good viewing material.

i hurt from working all day every day and im drinking some great american whiskey

tomorrow i have the great opportunity to do it again

>>18672442
Nothing?

>>18672385
fuck off conspiracy theorist.

>>18672024
200k a year is 10k/mo take home
>t 200k in taxachusetts

>>18672795
60 shares, very bearish right now so buying slowly. Hope to get a 5-10k position (depending on how the market turns out) with an average in the 20s.

>>18672931
It's an excellent company. Look it up.

>>18672280
it's not easy but will be cracked within our lifetimes. Ai is commoditized, it just needs better training data and tuning

>>18673013
If you only have 2k to invest in a shit company like BAM, fuck even 10k, you should work on getting a better job or investing in yourself, you dumb poorfag.

>>18672987

Both BAM and MRO look like nice investments. Putting $5k in this week. Should I split 50/50 or all in one

>>18672987
>that pic
Can't wait until the gyms open up again. Also, just check /fit/. I usually shill the Pallof press, which you can still do with bands if you have something sturdy.

>>18672944
See
>>18672808

>>18671181
2013, fuck man. I’ve been here forever.
Remember before /a/ /jp/ split.

>>18673080
kek based
poorfag BAM shills btfo yet again

>>18672772
How is your data so clean? Too much noise on squeezemetrics

pretty annoyed that I sold BYND at 90 earlier. Will it keep going up?

>>18672406
Last gen AI is literally automaton/state machine based on some sort of logic inference system, state transition/heuristic, or constraint satisfaction system hence expert systems. Current gen AI is basically large scale curve fitting using multilayered approach. It doesn't "think," you either have to tell it exactly what to do or to come up with some sort of model that happens to work extremely well with the application (i.e. facial recognition). Current AIs are mostly memes that will take a few year to reach "demo" capability but never surpass the requirement needed for real applications.

>>18672385
The sad part about this is that in two months when everything is returned to normal and almost everyone's forgotten the Corona virus even existed, you won't acknowledge the fact that you are f****** batshit insane. You will continue on to the next conspiracy theory you can latch on to.

You should kill yourself.

>>18673089
BAM is for gays. Go MRO

wew lads, the memes were real

About to get into commodity futures trading after making a small fortune on LINK, bros, why didn't anyone tell me printing money was this easy.

>>18671117
no

>>18670981
Will have great dividend growth

cant believe i fucking missed out on the oil memes. any chance it will have a big dip again?

>>18673252
good then you didn't sell the bottom

>>18672772
What does this mean

>>18672989
>>18673232
What, are you twelve? Can't look at some documents without resorting to using a word coined by the CIA to dismiss those who questioned the official version of JFKs assassination. Or is that just a conspiracy too?

The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.

>>18673089
Mro only
>>18673319
Based and saved

>>18672967
The most handsome man on earth, newfaggot.

>>18672772
Ok I get the DIX, measure of short selling which is a proxy for buying pressure. Dark pools are used to approximate short sales on the open market because they are where records exist. Dropping DIX means buyers are losing steam and a high DIX means a frenzy of buying.

GEX is interesting. Don't trade options so I've had to look into gamma and delta, basically gamma is the derivative of delta and delta measures the change of the option based off the change in price of the underlying correct? So GEX is more a predictive measure of volatility by measuring the hedging activities prevalent in the market and whether they contribute to a 'stabilizing' buy the dip mentality or a sell the dip exacerbation of volatility.

So the drop in both means a rise in volatility and a lessening of buying pressure.

>>18673089
50/50
Do you wanna buy a company weakened by this or strengthened by it. BAM.

>>18671462
>>18672961
AMRS up 8% today, 18% in a week

>>18673319
>JFK assassination somehow validates you being a retard

Yeah no, kill yourself

so uh... what do we do on weekends?

>>18673396
Means buy tvix does anyone know where I can get dix and gex data points or some people’s readings of it?

>>18672078
Thanks TruckerAnon. That's actually helpful news for one of my stocks

>>18673459
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor

Interesting stuff

>>18673456
Talk stocks and DIX

>>18673456
Esports

Or get in with GAME(TSX)

>>18673245
bullish

>>18673456
Thats when the schizo come out.

>>18673245
He's dead we did it.

Is XOM a viable oil play or are they gonna cut the dividend? Are they still powered by the blood of Rockefeller? Or are they going the way of U.S Steel, whose management has Carnegie rolling in his grave, and General Electric where Thomas Edison is turning so fast in his grave that he developed a new form of electrical current?

>>18673552
Excellent writing. Their divvy is safe, they cut CapEx. One of the safest plays, should not go bankrupt.

>>18673427
you fags about to pump that trash again?

>>18672954
Based /tv/ chad

>>18673245
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-un
>born 8 January 1983 or 1984

if he did die he didn't do a good job being alive for very long

>>18673573
i had not heard about it until today, or forgotten about it

>>18673481
>https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
short explanation please.

>>18673588
See:>>18673396

Read the white papers yourself though.

>>18673583
fucking remember hearing them saying max outstanding will only be 90mill then they started saying 110mill now it's at 174mill...

That company has potential IF they got rid of management and toxic investors that are pulling the strings

Next stop 3100

>>18673647
Can you bring Ford over the 5$ mark.
What a dog, sick of holding bags at 4.80.

>>18673669
This, I sold a put for $5 and gotta dump this shit. Hoping it hits $6 with BS earnings.

>>18673677
Didn’t they cancel earnings?

Did you listen?

>>18673698
No, they're Tuesday, last I heard.

>>18673715
>I am a genius!
>Crashes like literally everyone knew it would
>Oh no!

>tfw DNR

who are these people putting over 100k on robinhood of all places

>>18673599
I did. interesting. are there any courses or books on how the stock market works. I mean the actually mechanics.

I have many questions:
>Do all markets have market makers hold stocks on their books or do the only transact when they have a buyer and seller?
>Are there exchanges where buyers and sellers interact directly?
> how are different exchanges connected?
>are all equities listed on all exchanges?
>when I place orders who and how are they being executed and where?

>>18673741
fuck I used green text wrong. now people will make fun of me.

>>18673669
>>18673677
Nigga sell your $5.50 calls and collect your rent money. Stop bitching about the easiest wheel stock on the market rn.

>>18671593
Watch the m5 chart for two rounds of higher(lower) highs and higher(lower) lows then go in on the next pullback. Set a stop just before the previous pullback and let it rip. Close when sufficiently in profit

>>18672852
>i-it's gonna go back down, any s-second now

>>18673761
That's what I'm really going for to be honest. Waiting until after earnings then gonna sell a call.

>>18673715
Getting too cocky....
>>18673741
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marketmaker.asp

Just read up on the entire website, gold mine for new people, good luck man.

>>18673796
It is. Why would it go back up other than shenanigans? Can't keep the charade going forever.

>>18673728
>Crashes
Don't threaten me with a good time

>FORD
>buying F
>unironically ever

Value is such a meme for chrissake.

FORD ANON
ARE YOU STILL HERE??
YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED!!!

I tried to warn ya...

>>18673820
>too cocky
I pray every single day my puts get assigned

>>18673831
The financial system isn't related to reality and thus the pandemic doesn't actually impact it beyond pushing more amateur traders who don't know what they're doing into the market
the factories are still there, the workers are still there, the roads are still there, it's just a matter of waiting since it's clear the virus isn't black death 2.0
it's going to hit 30,000 before christmas unless WWIII starts

>>18673872
Ford is good because it’s a total Crab stock that will shuffle to the right for the next umpteen years and will never go under cuz muh bailouts and muh American Titan Of Industry. Get your premium on boy

https://kcnawatch.org/korea-central-tv-livestream/
North Korean TV is broadcasting right now and it usually wouldn't be

Wanna listen to weird Nork music while we wait for Kim's death to be announced?

>>18673895
>will never go under cuz muh bailouts
You know what happened to GM stock cuz muh bailouts?

>>18673873
market can stay irrational longer than people can stay solvent. Bear markets aren't about being right, it's about staying solvent long enough to buy the dip. Anyway, how's the SOXL treating you? Did you hold through the crash?

>>18673860
I fucked up with my money, but its so depressing to see idiots like you win the lottery.

>>18673882
>financial system isn't related to reality
>stock market isn't the economy bro!
Why do people keep misusing this retarded trope? Its only meant in regards to short term movements on recent economic news. If the economy is fucked up, then stocks will fall (how fast is the key). Just like when our economy was booming the last 5 years, the stock market sky rocketed.

new thread
>>18673956

>>18673912
GM and F aren’t really comparable.

>>18673963
>>18673963
>>18673963
new

>>18670905
...Yet my Puts are down. That's it. I'm joining THETA GANG!

>>18671507
i got 5 on it

>>18672833
The virus is a nothingburger. But the economic impact of everyone staying home is not.