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Bought a few of these today from APMEX

Ausfag here

Taking out $10,000 DollaryDoo's from Super/Retirement

Im 24

Should i buy Silver 1KG bars or all in on gold?

>>18668299
Funny. I bought one of these from APMEX today.

Am I doing good for a poorfag?

>>18668641
Nice!
Why's that funny?

>>18668612
silver is best buy right now with biggest potential gains.

>>18668702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46iwWOWb-bQ

>>18668700
Goldbacks are a Mormon pedo scam.

>>18668995
>pedo scam
?

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO LARRY

How do I into nazi precious metals.

>>18669142
I'd imagine there's a shitload of fakes and a high markup, would only buy a piece or 2 of silver for novelty.

Quick question, would you prefer a mint tube of 10 batbois or 10 individual batbois each in their own capsule? Individual is slightly more expensive but you can safely play with them all. Mint tube is cheaper but if you resell for mad gainz later on you will need to buy capsules if you dont sell the whole tube at once.

>>18668985
i love this bald autist like you wouldnt believe. he even had Ron Paul on the show recently

>>18669249
yeah i saw that. ive shared occasional vids of his here for several months now, good to see him getting more views and subs

>>18669404
ive been subscribed for about 2 years now, i like his book recommendations. he does like to drone on quoting the spot prices of everything tho

Random generics just came in, What’s in the box biz?

>>18669548
buffalo rounds

>>18669142
Littleton coin company sells a 2-piece set

>>18669640
Thats an obvious fake anon.

May 1st, everything basically opens back up. PMs drop in price or is it just going to keep going up?

>>18668681
Better than none fren. This is just my apmex purchases.

>>18668681

You're doing fine, any wealth protected is better than no wealth protected.

>>18669792

Nice stack, I aspire to be like you one day.

So where will silver end up going compared to 2008 when it lead to 50 an ounce eventually due to a mild recession compared to all the global BS going on now? Where will the gold silver ratio end up going?

What should I buy from apmex that has a reasonable premium? I'm new...

>>18670366
Netherlands gold wasn't bad

>>18669769
Not autos. They pushing back till the 11th.

>>18669792
>>18669921
Why have the website track your purchases? Seems like bad mojo especially if the government comes looking.

>>18669792
>>18669921
Thanks hah. I was ready to take some insults. Thank you lads.

>>18670429
It's apmex, does it automatically when you have an account. The US government isn't gonna do shit. They're not gonna take gold, they're gonna print. And besides, that's not all what I have, that's just what I've bought from apmex, I've got gold and silver from other places.

>>18670366
JM usually has better prices. 10oz bars are the way to go right now for the lowest premium.

Just got my Uncirculated batboi today.

>>18670366
Use findbullionprices.com
I usually shop at jm bullion
Discount code QTR5 saves you $5 off any order over $99 I believe

>>18670628
I go through apmex, never selected that option. I would have to call them and get it enabled.

>>18670692
they canceled my fucking batboi order and i dont want one if its not US mint certified

>>18670252
i think it'll hit $50 long enough to sell without having to worry to much.
i think it'll hit $60/oz but who knows for how long. what i wonder is if silver will hit $75, even if its just for a couple minutes

>>18670758
wait what, why anon? they can't possibly be sold out yet

>>18670795
said they were not in stock on the cancellation email.

>>18670779
How do you even sell at 75 if its for a few minutes? Camp out at an LCS? I dont sell silver I just buy. So not sure how this would go

>>18668285
tungsten general?

>>18670758
Why'd they cancel it?

>>18670820
call the online dealers, and lock it in as soon as you get a person, might actually get above 70, mostly because i assume they'll be over burdened with people trying to sell their rocks

>>18669218
Individuals 100%

>>18670823
If its tungsten your looking for heres some with native gold. The brown vein is tungsten, the blue / gray is galena silver ore and the gold is between the two.

>>18670829
i got my bat boi today, i was susprised it was already beat up straight from the mint. also my plastic case is like a fraction of a inch to small it won't completely seal.
anyone else notice these things

>>18670885
Mine is completely sealed no issues. You ordered bullion or legit straight from the mint? My bullionbat's case is a bit too small for the coin which really sucks.

>>18670885
My batboi from the mint is like .020" too small for the case and rattles around. It's in good condition. At least one of of my bullion batbois from monument metals has a tiny ding in it on George's nose. I wonder if the mint is getting sloppy eith increased demand. Quality is the first thing to go when the pressure is on.

>>18670875
I wanted to ask you last thread, dumb question but how do you recognize bedrock when you are looking at it?

>>18670941
bullion, my bad. i'm cheap to order from the mint

>>18669792
To be fair, APMEX's tracked bases it off the prices on its own website, so your values are based off what they sell it for.

>>18670993
My bullion is tight as hell in its case. I tried to take it out but couldnt so I left it and the case doesnt close all the way. Fuck it.

>>18670970
easy, its solid rock over a wide area. look for stuff like this. Cant miss it.

>>18670885
Mine from jm bullion came with a beat up case that won't seal. I also tried to take it out but it's impossible because of how tight it's in there.

when i first saw it, i thought oh its just dirt or something so i took a cotton rag, and lightly rubbed on it. nothing. also i'll post the other side it had a tiny nick in it.

I have about 1350 oz silver and 8.5 oz gold. Should I buy more silver or more gold?

>>18671151

>>18671161
plenty of silver mate, get a few more ounces of gold if you feel like it!

>>18671151
>>18671162

Mine is scratch too on washingtons neck and the edges have small nicks. Bought from libertycoin niggers. Faggots.

>>18671171
Yeah I have about 2500-3k I can spare. Can top up to 1500 oz silver or 10 oz gold. Not sure what to do

>>18669921
>He thinks if the economy collapses he will be able to protect his shiny rocks
>He thinks shiny rocks will be worth more than bullets and guns
>He is an antigun libtard who will get shot by Jamal

>>18671151
heres a photo without the phone shadow, the glare hides some of the imperfections.
its still pretty, just think its messed up generics come in better shape then coins from the US mint lol

>>18671188
go with gold, 10 ounces is a nice round number.

>>18671188
50/50 my man, silver will perform better. but you have so much it'll be interesting watching you sell it. might i suggest freight

>>18671015
At least I know now not to take my bullion batoi out the case when it arrives

>>18668285
>>18668702
>>18670779
So I bought two rolls of 20 silver eagles. (40oz)

How fucked am I when it comes time to sell them?

Can I sell over spot and will it take a long time? Who's even gonna buy them?

>>18671151
Why didnt you get it from the mint with the P mint mark? Stay poor pajeet.

>>18671242
for sure, mine was super tight. i used my nails( i'm a guy, just hadn't cut them for a week) broke them and used a pen cap. it worked well but yeah its not meant to come out lol

>>18671255
boomers will buy them when its super high spot, because boomers are retarded.
if you want to get out quick i say 18 months before you see any noticeable return within 4 years i say it'll hit 60

>>18671207
>just think its messed up generics come in better shape then coins from the US mint lol
i thought you clarified this was the shiny bullion batboi?

>>18670692
Is that a P mark?

>>18671255
most pawn shops will take them at spot price, there coins so they are easy to evaluate. Might be a while til you can sell them, remember though PMs aren't a get rich quick scheme, there a hold of wealth.

>>18671277
its ridiculously more, also i got them for the meme mostly. normally i wouldn't pay $23/oz on anything but a silver eagle (and that was my trump bux)

>>18671293
yeah mine is normal bullion bought from monument i believe. but i can get buffalo rounds with less damage lol.

gold will never, ever go above 1800
this is the absolute peak

Anyone here holding more silver than cash? I have more USD in the form of silver than I do in the bank and it feels comfy as fuck.

>>18671397
don't be so confident, shit just keeps getting weirder and weirder lately, people and governments don't like that, and they are storing their wealth in PMs fast.

>>18671397
>1971
>we're going off the gold standard?
>this yellow rock is fucking worthless now
>yfw 1980

I want to start getting into gold panning but where l live has little to no record of gold being found :/

Any decent JM Bullion codes?

>>18671534
Qtr5 saves $5 I think

>>18671453
Yes fren
5k cash
11k link tokens
1350 oz silver
8.5 oz gold
25k in options on robinhood
Comfy af

>>18671611
5 is better than nothing kek

>>18671207
and i just broke the plastic casing trying to get it back on... good times. it just cracked so its mostly in tact...

>>18669047
hes a q tard and therefore wants to suck off JFK's rotting cock

>>18671830
i dropped my bat and the case shattered, have buy a new case now and debating on just getting a couple more batbois too..

>>18671904
might as well at that point

220 out of my 750oz are ASEs that I bought last year

>>18671523
than you might want to move somewhere that does. where are you located, i can give you a general run down of whats nearby.

>>18671944
Based, what was your average price?

i'm a stacklet and today bought some DSLV and DGLD (2x inverse silver and gold respectively). i feel like a lil baby mini JPMorgan. through incompetence i've also failed to make enough fiat to repay my debts so now i've defaulted on all of them.

>>18672011
slowly but surely i have become what i hate...slowly buy surely, i have become...and mods, forgive me for uttering this trite word...a jew.

>>18671947
I legit live right near the brazos river in the Houston area.

>>18671947
Diffrent anon. Im in middle south carolina. My area is clay and rocks and muddy rivers. There are granite quarries in the area but i dont remember seeing much quartz. I have a pan. Any suggestions? Familiar with my area? There is a open pit gold mine nearby halled haile. Ive never been there but i think they crush ore and get gold/silver mixed alloy as product.

>>18672026

>>18672047
a (You) for my troubles? thank you!

>>18671991
Around $16 in total, the ASEs I bought at around $17 but of course without ridiculous premiums tacked on like there are today. Spot price is 15-something but ASEs are going for over $25? When the paper markets are forced to catch up to the physical markets we're gonna see some serious shit

>>18672028
>>18672032
give me a bit i ll see what i can drum up. FYI, south Carolina and that south part of the US hosted the worlds first gold rush, when a kid played hocky from church and stubbed his toe on a 64 pound gold nugget that his family used as a door stop for 2 years before selling it to a jeweler who said it was copper for $10.

pray tell, /pmg/, how many tee oh zee does this grecian fellah have? keep in mind many miners are now 2X off their march low. they just keep winning. mirror trade these fucks. do not be afraid when you see a dip in mining stocks, it is a buying opportunity.

Just bought 4 more bat bois to go with my 1 bat boi (from larry of course) and my pandemic stamped bat boi from the mint

When will this entail me to the blowjobs from a housewife and her 18 year old daughter

>>18672028
Ok so West Texas has well known gold deposits, but its all hard rock, don't be playing around peoples claims, but the Hazel mines seem to have been abandoned for a long ass time, go see what you can sniff out nearby.

https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dkg01

>>18672075
That's great I bet 64 lbs of nugget is the size of a breadloaf goddam.

>>18670692
One frosty and one shiny?

>>18672032
Ah your in luck, there is fine flour gold scattered all over the place in small creeks near the Haile gold mine owned by Oceanagold corp. Look for a rich, red oxide layer sitting on clay in creeks. it seems gold is well known to occur in this layer as well as some gem stones like sapphires.

Note, the gold in your area will be a rich almost brown color, its due actually to a strange crystal texture on the particles, which are very pure naturally.

There are also high grade gold quartz veins found hosted in nearby outcrops, but i must read more up on them to understand what the fucks going on there geologically.

>>18672131
bit bigger in fact, it was apparently shaped like a foot ball. No one other than the jeweler knew what it was, and when people figured it out they obliterated the homestead of the kid who found it.

Roll

>>18671947
what about north west BC is it any good there?

>>18671523
I watched a show on late night cable a few years back, guy bought a bag of playground sand from the hardware store, panned it, and found enough gold to pay for the bag.
At least that's what happened in the show / what he said.
Not nearly enough to get rich, certainly, I think he barely broke even, but it's still interesting.

>>18672118
5oz of silver easily selling for $100
pretty much now anon, just go to the bad side of town lol

>>18672259
BUDDY IS IT EVER! We have Atlin, we have Dease Lake, we have the Skeena at Hazelton, we have the Bulkley at Smithers. We have the Golden Triangle of Stewert BC, we have the Tanashini, McDame Creek Cassiar, Ominica with Germansen Landing, we have gold basically fucking everywhere.

>>18672267
yep, depending on where the sands coming from, you will often find small flake gold in it because of how it gets concentrated at the gravel pits during processing / mining. Its partially how I stay sane 8 months of the year when its winter.

>>18672168
Thank you very much kind sir. I will excitedly seek the red layer on top of clay full of dark flower gold flakes. This is very helpful. Our soil distribution here is crazy. Sandclay, red clay, tan clay, kaolin, white big grain sand, yellow fine sand, we have it all. I do construction here and you never know what you are going to dig up when you see anew site. I have no idea what happened geoligically but i bet it was chaotic.

>>18672341
its going to be on a layer of clay about 2 ft from the surface, and the clay its resting on is going to be super tough to dig, almost like cement. the gold particles cant pass through it, so it rests on top. You will also likely run into insane amounts of magnetite too.

>>18672326
good evening Pan Man. have you ever been to California? I live near a place called Dawn Mines in Altadena, it's closed now but I plan to check it out:

http://www.secretmines.com/p/dawn-mine.html

>>18672354
I operate equipment and specifically when digging trenches with trackhoes this layer is very noticible when you hit it. Some places its way deeper than 2 feet im sure i will watch for it closer now.

>>18672538
not all of it will be gold rich from my understanding but some places people pan on it and do very very well.

>>18672518
never been but i have studied California closely. Please don't go into abandoned mines, especially looking at that one, its very wet by the looks of it, a perfect place for H2S gas to build up and kill you. It appears to be a typical gold quartz mine of the California Motherlode belt, look nearby on the hills for surface showings of quartz, they may contain good grades of gold.

>>18672710
thanks. couldn't go in if i wanted to, it's sealed, and looks 2spooky. by "studied CA closely" what do you mean by that?

>>18672745
he's watching you watch trap porn from his NSA satelite

>>18672745
to be a prospector, one must be a mixture of professions. He must be a historian, know his geology, know human nature and be a handyman.

Since California, and the men that mined there in the rush of 49 were super influential on the later rushes in BC and beyond, you have to know how those men mined, and how they thought. If you know this, you can figure out where those old timers didnt go looking for gold.

>>18672786
interesting. I was thinking of historical record, or surveyor maps of the terrain.

>>18672837
yep thats right, but you also have to understand why they mined in specific areas and not others. its complicated.

>>18672849
Anything you know about gold around Dallas?

>>18672964
nothing directly in Dallas its self, but there are some very strange repeated stories of float placer gold recovered between Dallas and Austin, and Wichita Falls. These anomalous nuggets have appeared since the days of the mexican american war and to this day no source has been detected. The nuggets were all smaller than 1 ounce, well rounded and were a rich coppery color, with a strange almost crystalline texture. I ll see if i can dig up the treasure hunting book I read this in.

>>18673012
Thank you

>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST STACK 1964 KENNEDY HALF DOLLARS

>>18672786
Do you know anything about Washington?

do any of my fellow PM niggaz have an austrian 1 ducat? if so, mind taking a pic comparing it to a quarter? im thinking about getting a few, but i wanna see the size comparison. i know the dimensions but just wanna see.

>>18669142
There's a reputable seller on ebay who sells them in bulk. I've purchased plenty from him. Do a search and you'll find him, he also sells lots of other neat historic silver coins.
there generally aren't any known fake reichsmarks circulating en mass.

>>18670628
>They're not gonna take gold, they're gonna print.
ahem

>>18673046
Which Washington, DC or the west coast state? if the later, try Liberty Washington, look it up on youtube for some amazing nuggets.

>>18673029
Based

>>18672081
Dimon looks like my dad, except my dad is fatter and has more wear.

Just got my batboi today and it is glossy/shiny while the images I see here are matte. Does that mean my batboi is not authentic?

>>18670252
Whats happening in this gif? Whats that scanner device?

>>18673197
I AM NOT TRYING TO BE AN ASSHOLE OR EVEN MEME. THAT IS FAKE. where the fuck did you get this? Ask for your money back

>>18673197
Ugh anon...it actually is fake. Wrong design on it. Return it.

>>18668285
Where can you buy 24k gold jewelry for the lowest premium? Not picky on the design.

>>18672849
just curious, given your vast knowledge of the industry, do you invest in mining stocks?

>>18673197
Shiny, what you have, is bullion. 55,000 minted. The matte is frosted, and comes from the US Mint directly and looks that way because its vapor blasted and comes with a CoA and case. 20,000 made.

Yours is real.

>>18673199
China temp checks for the virus. Manlet han chinese "male" aka mongolian bastard rape baby is scanning the Taiwanese BVLL female before letting her continue.

Notice how she removes the mask to assume dominance over the manlet and show she is not afraid of the virus.

>>18673309
Menē

>>18673309
Try mene.com
Price is variable based on spot and they are upfront about the premium
You can use my invite to get $5 off: mene.com/invite/EblUVx (inv4 shill)

>>18673323
yes and no, I do a bit of investing in the larger companies like Glencore, Gold Corp and a few others but for the most part I stick to penny stock companies if I invest. I like seeing what each little exploration firm locates / comes up with. There also far more interesting in general than the giants.

>>18673368
>mene.com
>>18673352

sounds like a shill scam

>>18673399
Well I get $5 every time someone signs up with my code. So yeah I'm a shill. Scam? It's not a scam if you want to buy your wife a ring.

>>18673399
Well yeah of course it is, that's jewelry. You asked

>>18673326
So are the mate ones worth more since they are more rare?

>no black sun silver rounds or bars
lame

>>18673466
Yes, $180 from mint. Plus shipping etc

>>18671830
From APMEX:

https://www.apmex.com/product/197510/2020-5-oz-silver-atb-national-park-of-american-samoa-as

"Due to manufacturing variances at the U.S. Mint, this release does not fit in the standard 5 oz capsules we have used for previous releases, which are produced by a third-party vendor. This release will instead come in an alternative capsule where some sliding may occur."

APMEX is using slightly bigger plastic holders for these bat coins. Other vendors may try to cram the coin into a holder that doesn't really fit or they may just give up and not use a holder at all.

>>18673523
Wtf does JM Bullion do? I just bought a bunch from them but they have not arrived. My one coin I do have from LibertyCoin came stuck in the capsule and is scratched.

I should have bought the mint tube damn.

A gift card is paper currency with severe limitations and a time limit. Why would you do this?

>>18673373
cool, I'm looking into Hecla (HL)

>>18673651
they are very good, excellent choice

>>18673651
>>18673373
What about barrick? I wanted jnug but I dont understand ETFs that much, it was $4 like a month ago but not its $80 but its a 3x so not sure how my money would have gone with all the daily ups and downs on it.

Thoughts on First Majestic? I also liked Hecla

>>18673706
ETFs can gain or lose value very quickly as they are based on leveraged positions. so if gold price trends up, and gold miners continue attracting more buyer action, then obviously it will drive JNUG up. but if it's sideways action JNUG will slowly decay.
sometimes individual stocks can pump but of course it's up to you to pick the right one.
https://finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=111&f=ind_gold

PZG is up 14% today

>>18673678
glad to hear you like it, heard about it from these threads.

>>18673706
Barrick is a bit of a pain in the ass as yes they are a fantastically profitable company, but they have this little problem of being embroiled in dozens of law suits or legal challenges with foreign nations over bribery, slavery, political assassinations, environmental vandalism from shear laziness etc, so they are not on my list of companies to invest in. One of these days their going to fuck up and get royally screwed by some legal case and take their investors money with them. It would be a far safer investment to go with First Majestic than with Barrick at the moment. I would also suggest the small company Engineer gold mines as an option, I suspect they will get bought out soon by a larger firm, they have an excellent resource and all their permitting in place. Also check out Pretivm, their Brucejack property is a world beater for gold.

>>18668612
Silver is the shitcoin of precious metals anon. Get a batboi or a few coins that will appreciate due to scarcity, but don't pin your hopes on a silver moon. Just get gold.

>>18673523
that is good info, ty anon
>>18673539
right, i know i was to broke but i could have easily waited a week...

>>18673805
So First Majestic is good but who else? Something with lots of potential or just safe. I did not know Barrick was full of controversy kek kind of funny though honestly.

>>18673776
Handy link, ill browse around and ill read more on ETF's

>>18674200
Kirkland lake mines is doing well, also look into what Freeports up too.

>>18674236
also tack Kinross Gold on there as well

>>18674245
>>18674236
>>18673805
Other than miners should I grab anything else? Oil? WTI?

>>18673706
barrack getting its png leases shit on so buy that dip imo

>>18674288
at the moment i am not sure, i am only the guy looking for the resources, not the stock broker. Do a bit of research into it yourself, there is loads of info out there to make an informed choice.

>>18674292
Barrick likely isnt getting those leases back after what their security forces did to the local tribes in PNG.

>>18674314
burning homes right?

>>18674335
ahhh.... apparently some group associated with Barrick set fire to a few local rebel groups villages in the middle of the night, herded them into a pinch point and either beat the people to shit or shot them. Reports are hazy at best, but lets put it this way, Barrick are not people to fuck with.

>>18673064
The fact that there is so much pre 33 gold floating around should show you that FDR's E.O. had as much legs as he did.

>>18673062
can't imagine anyone faking those

I have a handful that my grandpa took off the Nazis he killed

>>18673062
I want to buy some of the 5 reichsmark but ebay has a billion listings and they all look nice but prices vary like crazy and I dont know why

any strayans know about Kalgoorlie:

In the winter of 1893, prospectors Patrick (Paddy) Hannan, Tom Flanagan, and Dan Shea were travelling to Mount Youle, when one of their horses cast a shoe. During the halt in their journey, the men noticed signs of gold in the area around the foot of what is now the Mount Charlotte gold mine, located on a small hill north of the current city, and decided to stay and investigate. On 17 June 1893, Hannan filed a Reward Claim, leading to hundreds of men swarming to the area in search of gold, and Kalgoorlie, originally called Hannan's Find, was born.[5]


Hannan Street in September 1930: The Exchange Hotel is at the centre, with the Palace Hotel on the right.
The population of the town was 2,018 (1,516 males and 502 females) in 1898.[6]

The mining of gold, along with other metals such as nickel, has been a major industry in Kalgoorlie ever since, and today employs about one-quarter of Kalgoorlie's workforce and generates a significant proportion of its income. The concentrated area of large gold mines surrounding the original Hannan's find is often referred to as the Golden Mile, and was sometimes referred to as the world's richest square mile of earth.

>>18674983
I am pretty sure thats where that canadian company mining nickel accidentally hit that massive gold vein right? Pic related

>>18674983
don't know shit about Australia but the old "horse threw a shoe and some asswipe found gold/silver/dogshit" has been used hundreds of times all over the world to explain prospector's finds. It's almost certainly not true.

almost as common as this gem here:
>>18672075
>stubbed toe on gold nugget
>inevitably aged as a doorstop for years proving how stupid the finders were
>sold to local jew who could smell gold and invariably pays a fraction of the value

>>18670885

BGASC any good? Never bought from them before but they have a couple things I am interested in

>>18675056
>>18675073
just reading up about it, since you mentioned PNG and australia is nearby.

>>18675073
yeah a lot of these stories sound ridiculous. the hand of faith nugget found using metal detector sounds at least believable. there's a few fake-looking videos on youtube where they go out and find baseball sized nuggets.

> "Dude, just hold for 5 years lmao"
> actually hold for 5 years
Easy profit, maybe not Crypto-level, but a profit nonetheless.

>>18675274
it's only a realized profit when you sell. are you going to sell for fake & gay fiat? what are you going to actually do, instead of just post a chart. i mean, i believe you and i'm happy you made a gain, but this is a big question. to sell or not to sell.

>>18674983
yeah it's probably our oldest and most known gold area, it's pretty well explored and tied up though

>>18675236
>yeah a lot of these stories sound ridiculous. the hand of faith nugget found using metal detector sounds at least believable. there's a few fake-looking videos on youtube where they go out and find baseball sized nuggets.

I remember back in 2006 I was with my dad who was visiting a station owner friend that had prospected the area since a child and he let me hold a cricket ball sized solid nugget, was pretty awesome, i think he said when he found it with a metal detector it was half sticking out the ground already

>>18675463
forgot the pic

>>18675274
Much better to hold Bitcoin for five years desu

Will they make golden batboys?

>>18675215
bump

I've got fours choices. The Canadian mint is still closed. I'm willing to spend some of my cash to get some more but I'm stuck with some really odd mints.

The Kangaroo, the Britannica, the Philharmonic, or the buffalo?

I don't know why it took me so long to take the redpill on money. Until as late as last year, I had heard about but really thought of all that stuff about the Federal Reserve, fractional banking fiat currency and so on as sort of an interesting but ultimately fringe conspiracy theory.

It has to be the biggest conspiracy hiding in plain sight. Most people are so brainwashed by the idea that money has value even while inflation eats it all away that they blame themselves for not saving enough of it, even while they have no incentive not to. PMs are basically the only practical escape hatch from this bullshit.

It's crazy to think that just a few hundred years ago, Jews were literally strangled or thrown down wells for merely CLIPPING coins that were still chock-full of real precious metals, and that after the Civil War there was massive public controversy over even the wartime expediency of having issued banknotes not immediately redeemable for gold.

And today, bankers can not only issue fiat currency backed by nothing, but openly inflate its value away. And they've successfully brainwashed people into thinking that to protest this less still do anything about it is for the tinfoil hat brigade.

If we all simultaneously decided we'd had enough, we COULD start using gold and silver to buy and sell. If enough of us sold our dollars and bought PMs at once, we could break the Fed but that is unlikely to ever happen. Because it's above all a mental prison. As long as the prisoners believe the bars are real, they might as well be.

>>18675833
>even while they have no incentive not to spend it*

>>18670429
i wouldn't worry about it too much because if the government wants to know who has bought shit they'll just ask various payment processors and the banking system to send them the records on transactions and transfers involving dealers. basically if you didn't pay cash on everything (and i do mean everything) they are gonna know anyways.

Which bullion coin looks the most like pirate treasure?

>>18675833
I probably have more money in Monero, gold, and silver than I do fiat (which isn't saying much because I'm poor, but still), and when the inevitable currency collapse happens a lot of normie 401k-and-cash types are going to see their net worth plummet to nothing while all of the weirdo gun nuts, Alex Jones types, libertarians, preppers, conservatives who aren't retarded, etc. either doing fine or actually making a shitload of money, and you could possibly see a pretty large public opinion shift away from fiat currencies and towards sound money. To be clear I don't think we're ever actually going to go back to a gold standard, but nontheless I think more people are going to start looking at alternative forms of wealth preservation that isn't dependent on a central bank or treasury.

>>18676250
I got this one from Scottsdale mint. 2018 EC8

>>18673337
nobody is, it's a flu for god's sake

my only question is whether it's enough for the morans in charge to kick the can, cause they clearly have no idea how to untangle themselves in the first place

>>18676386
Pretty cool anon.

>>18676266
You'll see lots of renters with zero assets or skills usable outside of an urban bubble get completely fucked.

>>18674463
cuz you were late to the party. They used to go for spot or even below in some of the auctions

Anyone here like collecting doubloons?

>>18669548
illiquidity

When selling american silver eagles and gold eagles, do people usually pay spot for them or do they pay more since they're coins?

>>18676250
Literal 17th, 18th and early 19th century silver coins obviously.

https://www.apmex.com/product/186397/1684-3-spain-silver-4-reales-charles-ii-ms-63-pcgs

>>18672710
hey pan man, near my brothers place there's an old goldmine. It was still producing 85000 ounces a year when they shut it down due to environmental reasons in 2004.

Would panning a nearby river be a good place to try my first panning? In my country I doubt many people even pan for a hobby.

>>18673651
Meh, I would diversify a bit.
All I like about Hecla is that there lucky friday mine might start up again.
Chart says it's highly unlikely to move beyond 7.
Personally I am in Kirkland lake gold (probably has 30% to run)
Teranga gold (am looking to profit here soon)
Wesdome gold (can run for quite a while)
Dundee precious metals (can run for quite a while)
So I would advise you to take a look to Dundee, Wesdome and perhaps Kirkland as well.

I was wondering, is this stash the largest photographed stash anyone posted on /biz/?

>>18677903
Kek

>>18674288
Oil is almost certainly a good long term play.
I have like $30k in PMs, crypto, and mining stocks so I'm trying to diversify a little bit. Right now heavy in oil tankers (storage) and trying to find some companies that do nothing but produce cheap food (KO, McDonalds, etc.) but they're all so expensive from a P/E perspective I don't even want to buy.

>>18678432
No but its very nice

>>18671859
Mormons were around long before Qanon anon. They settled in mexico to traffic children for decades.You are incredibly ignorant.

>>18675463
can someone explain to a Panlet like me how big nuggets end up "just sticking out of the ground"? meanwhile, tons of effort is required to dig ore. are these basically rare 1-in-a-billion lottery tickets? i always thought gold had to be extracted. even panning takes hours and you get small grains. i can understand how small nuggets get washed out and end up in streams. but how does erosion over time drive a piece of gold to end up in a shallow point in the dirt. makes no sense. the earth seems conveniently filled with metals that we need or find valuable. almost like we live in a simulation.

>>18676573
>You'll see lots of renters with zero assets or skills usable outside of an urban bubble get completely fucked.

we're already seeing that. mass layoffs soon for tech companies that were bloated with various HR, account manager, customer service and sales rep type people "working".

>>18671255
My LCS alrdy buy 4€ over spot
#comfy

>>18678005
>even silver gets BL*CKED over time
its all so tiresome. i'm goyna switch to gold once fake&gay spot price pulls back and mines start back up. gold is the king of precious metals for a reason...no tarnish :)

>>18678393
what was your buy-in point for kirkland? seems like it's about to test ATH. i already missed it. what would spark another 30% move from here?

>>18672311
I’m in Terrace, are you in the area?

>>18672011
Is it redpilled to take loans rn while $ is still worth something and buy silver with it, then wait for the hyperinflation or bank sector crashing to not have to pay it back?
I'm really tempted but i'm a chicken.

>>18675833
>>18675833
you would need to live in a small community that is sizable enough for each person to do something valuable so that goods and services are exchanged through PMs, and everyone trusts each other not to rob of defile the community currency. for example, you are a blacksmith and your neighbor is a dairy farmer. through blacksmithing you make great farm tools. the dairy farmer sells his milk for a few mercury dimes. when he needs new tools for his farm he exchanges the merc dimes for your tools. you exchange the merc dimes for his milk, etc. etc.

i heard here in /pmg/ that at every gun show you can probably find someone who accepts silver as payment for guns. it's all about community. and that starts with sharing info. the idea that PMs are illiquid is part of the psyop and the disinfo. keep in mind even if you establish a small community you'll still be infiltrated or harassed by the F*ds, just look at waco and ruby ridge as prime examples.

>>18678484
oil price will explode once the lockdown ends and the summer driving season and buying season begins. the problem is that April "futures" prices were *backwards* looking and got muddled with saud/russia opec fuckery. here in LA, big driving city, people are still driving and consooming. huntington beach was packed yesterday.

russia also has a ton of nat gas so they aren't technically afraid of low oil prices, they earn a living through nat gas. the real fag here is the saudis as usual. with less ISIS/ISIL fake shit in the mideast, compounded by the holocough hoax, of course oil went down. it's all easy to connect the dots looking back but it makes sense.

>>18680027
yeah it's the smart move but if you default you'll get bad goy credit score and won't be able to do it again later. so make sure you make smart moves if you use your credit now to borrow.

Started buying metals a few years ago. When Covid happened it looked like I was going to be laid off... had no money saved and sold 50 ounces of silver and 0.25 ounces of gold at the bottom-- got 850 for the lot.

Lesson learned: do not buy metals until you have a decent sized cash savings built up. I did not want to sell at 13 and ounce but life circumstances forced me to.

You won't be able to sell at an optimal time without savings! You will end up selling when life comes at you-- when you lose a job, you blow a head gasket or you have a medical emergency.

>>18680326
Can you get a loan from your parents or a friend to tide you over while the pandemic is going on? I think most people would understand given the circumstances. But yes you should alsways have some cash on hand to avoid this generally.

>>18673064
Only retatds turned in their gold for $20ozt only to have FDR turn around and devalue the dollar to $35ozt. Anyone with a brain kept their gold.

>>18670692
>>18670829
>>18670872
>>18670941
>>18671162
>>18673197
>>18675115

guys, im no genius but i dont think that particular coin is going to increase in rarity if there are already that much of YOU's ready to snap pics in an instant. also, euro's have been told it came from the pangolin and not from bats so there is no meme value for them.

i place my best on that coin instead. its called collectivism kills and its a part of the silver shield series.

>>18680154
>. keep in mind even if you establish a small community you'll still be infiltrated or harassed by the F*ds, just look at waco and ruby ridge as prime examples.


there are ways to prevent this. rituals are there for a reason.

>>18680441
The frostybois probably will have some collector's value.

But on the whole honestly the bat coins are just a meme, if anyone needed to have it spelled out for them partially ruining the joke in the process. Don't get me wrong, I like it too, and will be buying one while stocks last, but don't expect to make a fortune by flipping them for no particular reason.

Batbois are amusing, a meme and protect your stack. That's all. They do have 5oz of silver in them of course which represents a melt value of at least $75, but tl;dr if you buy them for the money you're doing it wrong.

>>18680512
>but tl;dr if you buy them for the money you're doing it wrong.

well, what do you think about the coin i proposed there : >>18680441


if biz get together we literally can buy the whole stock avalaible of those coins. they have been made in 2015 after all. and by an obscure minting company that is very anti-fed and ideological.

pic related is other product of them i think will gain meme value whatever happen in the next 200 years.

What did chase mean by this?

>>18680654
Honestly? They rub me the wrong way, and I think I know why. I ultimately agree 200% with the message, but what does the coin put out into the space? Negativity. Fear. Hatred, even.

All well-deserved, but it associates PMs with negativity. You can't give it to a kid brother or nephew. If you had it at your house and someone saw it, they'd think you a crank or potentially violent extremist.

I like my coins to look... nice. The best coins to collect specially or give as gifts to others have to be coins like this Indian silver rupee.

https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/ranges/historic-coins/silver-historic-coins/hisgvsr/

Coins like these emphasize not only that precious metals are totally normal and respectable, but they highlight and celebrate their timeless value. I feel like if you gave something like this as a gift to a relative, it might really activate their almonds on the issue of what real money is without any need for us to be preachy or risk sounding tin foil-hatted.

>>18668299
I have few, but I think the generic apmex one gram bills are a better investment

>>18678432
Mine

Where do buy Batbois

>>18681144
Any major online bullion dealer, or the US Mint if you're willing to pay the c. $50 for a frostyboi

>>18680027
probably a bad idea. I did it (went 40k into debt and got 4 monster boxes 8 months ago). It's really a bet. I'm young so if the speculation doesn't pay I will have time to compensate my missplay

>>18680990
>Coins like these emphasize not only that precious metals are totally normal and respectable, but they highlight and celebrate their timeless value. I feel like if you gave something like this as a gift to a relative, it might really activate their almonds on the issue of what real money is

make sense. i saw buying those coins as meme value in part of a regular bullion coins stack. maple leaves, silver dollar etc...

>mfw 5 batbois arrived today
>mfw used free coronabux to buy them

>>18675073
it was before the gold rushes, most people had never really seen gold before, maybe a few gold coins once in a while but never in its raw form like that.

>>18681216
If silver really moons rapidly (which I wouldn't bet on, honestly) a small stack will be enough to make it.

Suppose silver went to just $80/oz, for example (something that is almost certain NOT to happen without a massive currency crisis). That would be enough to make a 100oz stack worth $8,000. And again, this would almost certainly only happen in a situation where the economy was totally devastated, in which case PM savings would stretch very far indeed.

On the other hand, if silver stays relatively cheap i.e. under $50 an ounce, that's cheap enough that we all can keep stacking slowly and steadily without doing anything reckless in the process.

So it's probably all good.

>>18681242
Personally they really don't do it for me aesthetically and I personaly prefer my coins to have more traditional pretty plants animals, people, ships etc. on them. But since they float your boat, maybe there are a lot of other people like you out there who would pay big bucks for them in decades to come, who knows.

>>18678275
if its an older mine i would actually suggest staying away from panning down stream from it. A lot of old mines back in the day dumped their tailings directly into nearby water ways, so yes you might find gold, but some of those chemicals from the extraction process have a fun habit of lingering around as well.

Is BGASC any good? Never bought from them before. Usually I just go with JM or Monument

>>18679867
In places like australia, gold nuggets basically "grow" in the rock. Gold ore deposits formed deep underground, usually in reefs of quartz or as secondary enrichment zones, the rock is brought close to the surface through tectonics, and water flows into cracks, weathering the ores. The water picks up sulfur and becomes acidic, dissolving the bonds between things like pyrite and the gold particles it holds. These particles flow down deeper with the water until they either find a place they cant pass further, or bond with more gold particles and start the process of growing into a nugget. The earth keeps eroding and eventually a nugget weathers out.

This process happens all over the place but australia's geology and high temperatures is perfect for nugget growth. It also happens in creeks, but at a much smaller scale.

>>18677252
I've been wanting to get some norfed ones but they always carry such a high premium.
As for reichsmarks, you can still find them for spot - the ones with the eagle and hindenburg *without* the swastica. But the ones with the swastica go for premium, the bigger the swastica, the higher the premium lol

>>18680005
I live in PG right now but from Smithers, I know the region well, have been prospecting for many years.

>>18681347
>that is almost certain NOT to happen without a massive currency crisis
good thing we're in one then

>>18672075
Anything near Seattle WA?

>>18681382
They seem legit. Theyve had some really good prices for stuff that Ive seen but I havent pulled the trigger on anything.

Hi /pmg/, ausfag stacklet here
>started stacking a few weeks back
>so far collected 40oz of silver and 3 grams of gold
>pic related
I’m really tempted to start moving into gold more because of its higher value, but as a casual worker currently not getting many hours and also paying for uni upfront to avoid the debt I don’t have as much to spend as a regular person might. I’m trying to decide whether I keep buying silver because of the much lower prices and the fact that I can buy larger quantities of it or instead spend that money buying smaller amounts of gold over slightly larger periods of time. I’m mainly in it for wealth preservation, but I wouldn’t mind being able to make some money on top of what I’m putting into precious metals. What do you guys recommend?

>>18675236
yea there is this odd set of youtubers that are obvious fakers trying to mimic others they see online, here is one of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VubRv6qzRAE

>>18681456
Yes in fact let me dig out my 1871 local claims map, but I would suggest looking up panning around Mt Baker to get started. There are placers in the Cascade mountains towards the border, and an excellent lost mine story near the old town of Curlew in Fairy County, heres a vid on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFeGyPJzf2o

>>18681491
Ideally you should look at the gold and silver ratio. If the ratio is high, where it takes a lot of silver to get gold, buy the silver then when the ratio is low, where it takes less silver to get gold, sell the silver and use the money to buy gold. Gold and silver are fine to store and protect your wealth but gold is better for that and silver is more of its potential to go up in price, but also down. So lots of chances to buy low sell high.

Right now I think most people would say buy silver since the ratio is 113 oz of silver to 1 oz gold.

Gold is likely to rise a lot sooner than silver but when gold shines silver reflects and silver always follows just slower. 2008 is a good indicator with the recession, dropped to $8 then spiked to $50 for a short while couple years later. And it was a just a minor recession. Now we have a global butt fuck of the economy and shut down of mints and mines and printing of money and global pandemic and paper faggots selling their silver and gold IOU's for physical which does not exist to supply all the paper goys who fell for buying paper saying they own gold and silver instead of actually buying the physical gold and silver kek

>>18681491
>>18681590
just my opinion though, get other anons views

>>18681548
fuck forgot the image

>>18681500
Anything worth poking around for near the Cincinnati Ohio area?

>>18673199
i only see two guys in that webm, what female are you talking about?

>>18681758
no gold that i know of sorry, however silver coinage has been found repeatedly in the walls of some of the original buildings. 105 silver coins were located in the walls of a hotel that was under renovation in 2008, I have it bookmarked somewhere actually because it had some connection to mining history in my region.

>>18671193

My many rifles and bullets disagree with your assessment.

>>18681804
here is a similar set of stories from the turn of the century. https://www.cincinnatimagazine.com/citywiseblog/cincinnati-curiosities-guide-buried-treasure-cincinnati/

>>18681435
Anything good closer to terrace ?

>>18682024
Yes, the Skeena River, look up Kleansa Creek, Lorne Creek, Douglas Creek to the north, Dorrean Creek. There are loads of placer and hard rock claims all around Terrace, there is even a set of hard rock claims just outside of town on Terrace mountain that went through a lot of drilling work last few years.

>>18680920
>you wanna know what it takes to short-sell silver, huh? you wanna know what it takes to sell silver, and simultaneously accumulate thousands of toz. i'll tell you what it takes. it takes a pair of these.

>>18682115
Imagine how jealous old gold prospectors would be if they saw you using Google Earth to check out river claims

>>18680990
good points, but i would buy two types of bullion: one type for myself and if ever as a gift for my kid nephew then something that looks powerful and aesthetic. i wouldn't buy meme bars and coins that look all weird and shit. i already get to shitpoast redpilled and blackpilled things online, i don't need it on my silver. having said that i also don't want any coins with queen liz's ugly face on there. this is why queen liz roo coins are in stock right now but roo bars are still sold out and going for $32+ on ebay.

i think female, animal and bird coins will always be attractive as long as the female design looks timeless and elegant. i just received some Germanias and they are my favorite right now. st. george slaying dragon also very nice.

>>18682165
Google earths shit actually, most of the maps are junk for prospecting, its good however for figuring out how to get into areas. You still have to physically go out and look at the ground, and I won't sugar coat it bud, its hard country to look around in out there, but its worth it, there are excellent course gold on Kleansa and on Lorne creeks. Look for the bedrock and black sand beaches out there.

>>18681419
thanks again for the reply, very interesting stuff. i have to look into the chemistry of how gold particles combine into a nugget, fascinating.

>>18682192
what do you think of austrian philharmonics?

>>18682234
love them, elegant. if you're in EU they're probably easier to buy and sell than ASEs i'm guessing.

>>18682115
“Black bull prospect” kek! so what tools do I need to get stared with my black bull prospect?

>>18682127
Lmao. Looks like a fucking summoning circle to me. Funny that they are silver balls. >>18680920

Where can I find the best deals for gold?

I refuse to cough up for these absurd premiums. I'll just continue stacking miners which will outperform physical anyway if the premium remains.

>>18681804
Ah well. I’m closer to northern Kentucky as is. Thanks though.

>>18682353
could try ebay or some stores are opening up by appointment if theyre in your in their area

What kind of deal did you think they were talking about?

>price glitch on GSBULL
>Buy 80oz of Silver for 200$
>we’ll gladly come up with a deal! But we can’t afford it

What do

>>18682435
IM NOT COREY BAILEY SO FUCK OFF BTW

>>18682285
heres the Minfile report on it http://minfile.gov.bc.ca/Summary.aspx?minfilno=103I%20%20136

Its a hard rock showing, not the best for a greenhorn. Get a gold pan, a shovel / pick, some spoons, a sniffer bottle and start learning how that works on Kleanza creek.

>>18681491
Dude, the world is about to implode in a debt bomb, and you are worried about paying shekels to jews to avoid debt? Ive had a credit score rating worse than an illeggal mexicans for 6 years now, and never gave a fuck because I knew this all was going to happen. Here we are in the middle of the fucking storm and you are worried about going a couple grand into debt?

You need to reprogram your head into thinking you have time with this. People who have had a long term perspective with gold and silver had that persepctive in the 90's and last 10-15 years when things are realtively stable. But NOW its happening countless millions becoming unemployed, oil negative, and you are thinking you can ho hum along over the next few years? Get as much as you can now while you can. Fuck the system fuck worrrying about going into debt. All you should be thinking about is how many blowjobs will each ounce of silver get me, and stack accordingly before its too late.

>>18682435
jews gonna jew

>>18676250

>>18681061
so pretty

>>18682454
What about an automatic sluice?

>>18682535
its not mine, stole the pic from reddit sorry, I just wanted some (you)'s

>>18682553
Lol buddy better not get caught using a sluice in BC, if your caught the fish cops will fuck your life up with fines. Look into a highbanker instead, its like a sluice but out of the water, but you need to have the claim owners permission to use it.

>>18682671
How much gold can you get then just using the pan?

>>18682513
Only if they let me :(

>>18682704
how do I take advantage of this

>>18682698
depends on a lot of things, but when i used to go digging on Kleanza, sniping in the bedrock, I could find 2-3 grams on a good day. Now, I am a skilled prospector, so it might take you a while to figure out how to do that well, watch askjeffwilliam's vids on youtube to learn how to pan like a pro and what to look for.

>>18682704
me too

>>18682462
basado & BJpilled

>>18682799
He said best he could do is 8.90/ea

>>18669142
https://www.gettysburgmuseumofhistory.com/gettysburg-battle/world-war-ii-militaria/original-wwii-german-2-mark-nazi-silver-coin-with-hindenburg-and-national-eagle-certified/

>>18682971
Not a terrible price desu.

Anyone picked up a Bison Bullion covid fundraiser bar?
https://bisonbullion.com/10-troy-ounce-bar-2.html

>>18682971
Fuck him, tell him you only accept for 10c above spot price per oz.
He fucked up, that's sad for him but LCS tried their best to anally rape us with their kike-tier premiums ever since the collapse started, with no remorses at all.
So you shouldn't show any scrupules either, ITS A FUCKING WAR BRUH!
Law is on your side, and if you decide to drag him onto a court you are guaranteed to win 100% sure, and he knows it, that's why he try to get some boohoo empathy points from you.

DO NOT be soft hearted, this shlomo probably made millions during the silver craze, 100K is literally a drop in the ocean.

>>18683136
Is this good?

>>18682520
I unironically ordered 8 pieces of eight from them kek

hi

>>18683410
the fuck kind of a surname is wlazlo, michael?

>>18682739
Does natural gold that you find panning carry any kind of premium? Or nuggets?

>>18683497
:( anon plz

>>18683497
polish i think

>>18681330
>most people had never really seen gold before, maybe a few gold coins once in a while but never in its raw form like that.
it's a fable, an untruth. There's no need to defend it. Thousands such stories out there in mining history. Most of them very much alike.

>>18683526
nuggets do, I sell mine off to a set of dealers in Vancouver who make very nice jewellery out of them, but many also just get sold as is to collectors. the average premium on nuggets is going up too, it used to be only %15 over gold price, now its almost %20 due to demand.

>>18682312
there's probably some esoteric reason for that specific design, and i see 4 of them which is a bad ruck number to the chinamen. buildings in general are getting more curvaceous.

>>18683597
How is it an untruth? that is the first real discovery of gold in North / South Carolina, all you need to do is look at the records. I do agree that there are a lot of different total bullshit stories from those times out there, but a lot of guys really did just get lucky like that. The discovery of Toad mountain at Nelson for example. One of the greatest silver camps in Canada was discovered by guys who had no idea what they were doing, they got lucky with a toad sunning its self on some galena.

>>18681330
to add to that,
It was newspaper writers' way of saying the ore is so rich there people.livestock/gare are literally tripping on it and the locals are so dumb they don't recognize it. A perfect way to start a gold rush.

almost every mining town in America has a similar story, all of them presumably lies or exaggerations. My favorite variant is "he was stalking a deer and when he got close the deer bolted, and in its footprint he found a fist sized nugget of gold." Ridiculous, and the reader probably knew better, but since newspapers were often the only record we have of how a location was made it turns up on Wikipedia and in books. Wise authors know it's bullshit and more than a couple historians have done treatises on exactly that subject. Actual prospecting didn't generally involve livestock/game/children finding rich locations.

>>18681061
Hello yr silverbugs

>>18683672
>they got lucky with a toad sunning its self on some galena.
thanks, I'll add that one to my collection of unlikely stories of wild animals exposing riches.

>>18683715
>fake news in usa dates back to the early 1800s
>journalists were always lying pieces of shit just trying to grab attention with sensationalist garbage
>the average peasant goyim always portrayed as a dumb slack jawed yokal

i can accept all of the above more than i can accept tall-tales about accidental discoveries. however, i do trust Pan Man's expertise in saying that gold can end up in shallow dirt.

>>18681330
When I was a child, I think it was in the Guinness Book of World Records for the largest gold nugget ever found. I believe they named the nugget the "Welcome Stranger." It weighed something like 80 pounds and was found when a wagon wheel (horse-drawn wagons!) turned the nugget out from the dirt.

80 pounds is a bit over three good delivery bars, about $2M.

>>18683715
to each their own buddy, but more than one mine has been discovered totally by accident that way. Ore really does sometimes just pop up out of the ground in outcrops. I do agree I ve come across a lot of bullshit through my reading, but chance is a strange with some people.

Also, a lot of these guys didnt want to start a rush, most guys tried to keep their finds quiet for as long as possible so they could get the best claims, but that never really works.

>>18683795
>i do trust Pan Man's expertise in saying that gold can end up in shallow dirt.
he's absolutely right about that.

gold is heavy so in a river it gets moved around and invariably sinks as low as it can.

but on land the opposite happens. Rain washes away the lighter dirt leaving the gold concentrated at or near the surface.

but prospectors knew this sort of trivia even in the 1500's, probably long before. And the idea that pilgrims and conquistadores that traveled to the continent solely to hunt gold wouldn't recognize it when they found it is a stretch.

>>18683832
>Also, a lot of these guys didnt want to start a rush
they weren't the ones writing the newspaper articles. Most of them probably never said how they found it, so newspapers came up with a colorful story.

>>18683796
yep, and more recently I believe detectors found a second chunk of the Welcome stranger within 100m of the first part, weighing in at something like 20 pounds?

>>18683852
One very good example of what your talking about is the Lost Slumach Mine near Pitt Lake BC. The news papers totally lied through their teeth about the guy finding gold nuggets, he was finding ore and bringing it back for processing. The news papers said he would take beautiful women out with him than kill them when he was done with them as well, never happened.

>>18683861
I don't know. I was a kid reading through the Guinness book and didn't follow up on the story. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more huge nuggets in the vicinity of the Welcome Stranger. However, I'd be very surprised if a huge nugget was found recently in the same area. A 20 pound nugget is worth about $500,000 just in melt value.

Panning for gold is hard work as is modern day mining. It boggles the mind that a 20 pound nugget was just sitting there for the taking in an area where a super-sized nugget was once found.

>>18682704

Tell him in accordance with your liquidation policy the transaction is binding.

Unfulfilled orders will be subject to market loss.

>>18683888
I've got at least 2 mines supposedly found by deer in my town in Colorado.

Those stories also produced a shitload of lost mine tales as the reclusive prospector's riches became exaggerated over time and when the loner invariably died alone a hunt for their incredibly valuable mine ensued. Nothing was usually found because the mine was almost never as rich as the searchers expected it to be so they overlooked it.

you get bonus points if your reclusive miner retired to the east with his lovely daughter and died in boston or NY or Chicago, never revealing the location of his fabulous wealth.

Mining has its tropes and memes, repeated over and over throughout early history. Sometimes they're probably even true. But not usually.

>>18683913
the ground the welcome stranger and its sister were found in is insanely hard to metal detect in, its super rich in heavy metals, meaning only skilled detectorists with $2000 detectors can properly work the area. The second piece was also 5ft from the surface, well out of range of weaker detectors.

>>18683940
o yea, i posted a good example of one of those stories, based on evidence mind you above in the thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFeGyPJzf2o

This plus my own experiences finding random float ore on mountains makes me believe a large percentage of these stories are in fact true, just fantasized over time.

>>18683995
I know of one in my area
>reclusive miner travels off into Halfmoon Gulch every spring.
>Every fall returns to town to sell mule loads of almost pure gold
>Locals try to track him
>nobody ever does
>eventually miner doesn't return one spring
>Intense search begins for his gold
>nobody ever finds it
>10 years later huge gold strike up Halfmoon Gulch
>still one of the richest gold mines in the county to this day
>Nobody associates this new strike with the old prospector
>old man was forgotten by then
only recently have historians put the two tales together, finally realizing that the Champion Mine at the top of the gulch was almost certainly the same as the lost mine of the same location.

It can happen. But usually it probably didn't.

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>>18684070
Yes that sounds like the famous "Lost Lemon" mine on Lemon Creek. Old dude was found dieing on railway tracks by a mailman, he had crawled over 10km to civilization after a cave in at his mine. Dude dies in hospital in Nelson but told 2 men where his mine was with a sample of ore to match. No ones been able to figure out though which of the 2 dozen adits was his though

>>18683916
Out Jew the jew

>>18684167
>No ones been able to figure out though which of the 2 dozen adits was his though
same problem on the Champion mine, they initially found something like 8 ledges and outcroppings on the same mountainside, so before an ounce of gold was mined the several locators had to go to court to decide who owned the thing.

according to newspaper accounts of the time there was evidence that at least 5 of those 8 had been discovered and worked in the past even though nobody had ever filed a legal claim on them.

seems like the sort of problem that could be quickly resolved with a portable core drill though. Lost mines are weird that way. Most of us that search for them are too lazy or too broke to do the actual work needed to systematically try to find them.

>>18684298
A big issue with a lot of these lost mines is they were only a super crazy rich outcrop that didn't go to depth. Poplar creek for example in the slocan district had gold ore running 30 ounces to the tonne but it never ran deeper than 4 or 5 ft from the surface and only a few ft long in most cases.

>>18684364
picked up a 1/10 oz eagle. compared it to a penny.

>>18682462
Okay you've convinced me. I just placed my very first order for a a 1 oz bar of silver and 1 oz of generic rounds. How long will it take for me to get a blowjob from an Asian qt at this rate?

>>18684364
yeah when I was younger I used to research old bonanza rich gold strikes that were quickly worked out and then hunt the valleys and moraines below them on the theory that it was a large ore body that had mostly been eroded away. I almost never found anything of value.

later I learned that the richest gold mines were usually hydrothermal supergene that was deposited in a very narrow zone of expansion and cooling, and that zone didn't go deep into the mountain because the fault delivering the pregnant solution usually shifted and cut off the water. Again work with a core drill has resulted in a couple of those strikes re-opening over the years as small amounts of deeper ore are found, but that's not typical. A lot of rich gold was just in tiny deposits and nothing can be done about it.

>>18684500
It's so small!

>>18683410
yes it's a nice msg, keep us posted fren

>>18684500
Thanks anon I was thinking of picking up one of these. Might up for a bigger one instead.

>>18684562
Yep, but stuff still pops up from time to time in those old workings. I found the start of an amazing gold quartz vein prospecting a client's ground by the lost city of Phoenix. Checked out a bit of a gulley and the vein was exposed by an uprooted tree stump.

And I am still convinced there are amazing discoveries out there yet to be made people just don't look anymore.

>>18684625
yes, if you're looking for something in the same price range, i'd suggest an austrian or dutch 1 ducat.

>>18684652
What's the gold content and weight on the ducats? Are those the 1915 ones?

>>18684624
He told me to fuck my self

>>18684629
>people just don't look anymore.
not people so much.

but where I live in Leadville a couple years back a local metal detectorist found a nugget worth a few thousand dollars on an old gold mine waste pile. So within a month there was about 50 guys up there with detectors systematically turning over the pile and finding gold. They moved a few hundred yards of dirt and by my best estimate based on ebay sales, found about $100,000 in good wire gold nuggets before the property owner and the sheriff took notice.

That same summer I saw brand new pickup trucks with mining company names on them driving around the mining district, and guys in SUITS out there digging buckets of dirt off the old mine dumps. It was the funniest thing I've ever seen up there.

some people look, but most of us don't have relatively virgin ground to search like you do. In Colorado at least every inch of the ground has been thoroughly explored by thousands of people and hundreds of corporations.

I'm sure they missed stuff, and we still have new gold mines pop up every decade, but it's not like the wilderness where you hunt.

>>18684709
Ah you see that's still very accurate around my neck of the woods but for the most part most places really haven't been properly looked around again since the 1940s. You are right though, almost all the good ground is claimed up and owned by companies but no one is skowering the mountains like they did in the turn of the century.

I think that's great though that at least someone found something good in a waste dump other than me.

>>18684804
I've got a few ounces of gold off waste dumps. You've seen mine before. Pic related came off a dump and from under a tram line.

see if this link works...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gold-d06-206a.jpg
this is the stuff guys were finding up on the Little Jonny mine dump a couple miles from my house. They found a lot. Most of it small but some over 3 ounces and a couple over 10.

>>18684892
That really is amazing ore. Its probably so small because they precrushed the ore before it went down the tram line. Imagine how much got spilled....

>>18684931
I estimated in the 90's there was about $100k just sitting on the mountainside and the dump.

I approached the owner with an offer to lease the property and he just laughed at me. His estimate was closer to a million dollars sitting there. He might have been right, he certainly knows the property better than I do.

>>18684953
Yea I wouldn't be surprised if that was accurate. Issue is getting the ore off the mountain without going broke.

>>18685001
There's a haul road up to the base of the cliffs and slope. I was just going to drive a rented dump truck up there and get a few of my family to help me pick, sack, and toss highgrade ore into it. Then take a backhoe up and run the entire dump off to the mills.

It would've paid better than most jobs I figure, but the guy really likes his gold where it's at. So I give him the courtesy of not stealing any more gold and not telling people where it is. It's in a popular spot though, dozens of hikers a day go there without ever knowing what they're walking on.

>>18685001
and you're right about the size of the ore

the tram cars were really small so they had a jaws crusher clear up on the cliff where they'd crush and sort the ore before it went in the cars. Things were so small only one man could ride the tram up at a time, and even then they looked to be in constant danger of falling out.

Do gold Britannias have good liquidity in NA?