/biz/ - Business & Finance

>mfw I spent 90% of my savings on SPCE calls

kill me

>>18649128
F

Whos holding over weekend? Im hoping jerome will eod pump

>>18649118
My gfs entire family got it and my cousin got it, all fine within a week

>>18649159
your gf has weak genes. doomp heem

>>18649128
Hahhahaha do you understand their business? And when was the call?

>>18649102
interesting

>>18649128
>not yolo'ing on AMD calls and SPY puts

i just want my fucking taco bell is that so hard to ask

>>18649093
>Man that’d really suck if the virus was actually deadly.

That's what I thought until my ~30 yo friend who is healthy, was having mild symptoms but then suddenly collapsed and is now in ICU.

I think the worst part of the corona is that:
>New type of virus -> takes time for your immune system to react
>No upper respiratory infection -> No acute symptoms

When you realize you are having symptoms, it's often when you have already trouble breathing and you could already have developed ARDS.

>>18649118
My whole family got it and the only one who had more than a bad cold was my obese mother with an already weaker than average immune system.
Hell, I’d been living with them for a week before it started sweeping the household and I literally didn’t get it. Or I was an asymptomatic chad.
Literal nothingburger

>>18649185
guys where can I buy toilet paper I'm legit running low and I haven't seen any at the store in 5 weeks

FUTURES ARE FINE. I GOT FUCKING TRICKED BY BOBOS AGAIN GOD DAMN IT

>mfw SPY puts tomorrow

>>18649211
Ok doomer.
Go back to /cvg/.

>>18649226
king bobo was here. it's gonna be 2.5 weeks closing red.

BOUGHT 100 JCP CALLS LETS GO BABY

>>18649231
oh wow sir haha very funny is that real sir haha oh shiva im laughing

Short literally everything

>>18649242
nice.
what expiration

>>18649226
>FUTURES ARE FINE

>>18649231
How they getted the cat to dance like this?

How much is Bezos going to pay these governors to keep their state closed down to kill all small business?

>>18649220
You can't buy toilet paper anymore, give up. I only want napkins, and I haven't seen those anywhere either. Paper products are gone.

>>18649273
June.

I got some news that made me bullish. semi short term.

>>18649288
Coffee filters anon, coffee filters.

spy 180 or lower by june

>>18649285
bout three fiddy
states are like cheap whores

>>18649268
Does countertrading this signal work consistently?

>>18649268
Go long nat gas tho

>>18649312
>LCIguy
are you still LCI tho?

>>18649267
Why would a Hindu reference Shiva versus Brahman or Vishnu? Esoteric National Socialist asking here.

>>18649268
god dam it's going to effect us now.

>>18649318
>another new tripfag

filtered

>>18649318
yeah

LCI to $60

>>18649358
youve been filtering me since 2018 retar

BULLISH

>>18649277
Feed it nuggies when it does a sick move. Once a routine is developed the humans match the cat. They don't teach the cat a routine. The cat teaches them the dope moves.

Guys if SNAP goes to $15 I'll be fucking rich. what color M4 should I get?

>He bought?

>>18649379
>getting a bmw
disgusting

>>18649289
yeah, picked some up for june as well.
Betting on that amazon deal going through too?

>tfw bought puts at the very top today,
life is good lads

Shits going to crash hard next week, isn't it?

the PPP bill passed the house

>>18649306
Yes, right after Cramer recommended AMD last week it dumped hard

>>18649374
No fucking wonder Florida is fine despite being so retarded.

Why are people on this board so obsessed with RTX?

>>18649220
>Just got 60 rolls of angel soft delivered to me today for $25

Feels good man.

>>18649405
any gibs for literal niggers like me

>>18649417
AAAHHH OUT OUT OUT
(you'd have to read the bill, I think its mostly the business loans and some health care funding, but I'm sure the demojews added some gibs)

>>18649396
no. something smaller but should still cause an uptick.

amazon aint happening btw.

>>18649398
Same here bobro

Sun confirmed to kill corona in Trumps press conference.

It's over for corona, we're going to the moon.

Only up from here bros.

BUY MORE BURRIES
$
DNR
N
R

>>18649268
always do the opposite of what cramer says

>>18649439
explains why the south and southern commiefornia are barely getting hit

>got a $5k cash account (not margin) and a dream

how do i into day trading? i want to just start out with buying enough to where im risking $20 per trade. share with me your knowledge and wisdom, /smg/

>I'm going to make 50k when the virus ends
I'm so comfy rn

>>18649379
thinking of spending money before making money
NGMI

>>18649448
made 60% return on zoom and sold today because cramer was shilling it before the crash

>>18649392
They handle better than Mercedes though

>>18649460
Swing trade puts/calls on SPY. You can make $100-500 a day easily doing this. I've been supplementing my income with this for several weeks now

AHAHAHHAAHHA HOLY FUCK THIS ORANGE BOOMER MAN IS FUCKING RETARDED

He is seriously proposing radiating infected people hoping that kills the virus and injecting people with disinfectants.

Also, there is zero new information about heat & humidity & UV rays. Almost all respiratory viruses behave like that. Trump just wanted someone to support his comments about "summer taking it away".

>>18649484
fuck off WSB

>>18649460
First off you need a broker with no minimum fees which basically don't exist anywhere but the US

Second you should risk at least 1% per trade if they are thought-through and not you just buying random shit

Third it's just going to be a time consuming hobby to do correctly unless you have a lot more money than $5k

>>18649489
Trying to avoid the great depression but it's already here

>>18649489
dup btfo

>>18649220
I went to a small convenience store just to buy snacks and the guy had everything, just marked up. But the toilet paper is shit, real rough stuff and it was $1 a roll. Switched back to wet paper towels.

>>18649497
find a flaw in my strategy. 1-2 calls/puts is not high risk

>>18649510
>millions dead of dehydration after trump recommends increasing house temperature to 120 degrees

>>18649489
>neets seething that the president is making them go outside
kek

>>18649499
i live in the US with td ameritrade, give me a strategy and explain why it works profitably. im not looking to get rich overnight im just looking to start out and make a bit of cash on the side.

>>18649522
Can you resell toilet paper to grocery stores? I have 1.5 packs and maybe go through one or two packs a year

the stock market is going to crash hard within the next year or 2 right? How can the economy grind to a halt without stock markets crashing?? people won't be spending money on shit

>>18649463
let me join the team anon, how?

>>18649405
Whats in it that so many R's voted no?

>>18649529
so this means we should buy nat gas???

>>18649526
ill tell you your fuckin flaw you retard, you are buying in high IV, its a matter of time you get IV crushed, the best play here are iron condors

>>18649529
honestly would be a good way to get rid of some people at the end of the IQ bell curve

>>18649526
your strategy worked for the last few weeks because SPY was on a very clear and stable uptrend with intermittent drops. it's starting to crab and possibly even drop now. personally, I think it's more likely to start crabbing pretty hard from here on out, despite the bearish air starting to reemerge. crabs fuck strangeholds pretty hard.

>>18649102
The secret /biz/ server link is discord gg CpqQw7b
We will interview chainlink founder Sergey Nazarov this week
jeje

If the S&P dips below 2734, we'll likely drop quickly to 2693. If that level doesn't hold, the center of a black hole is the limit.

>>18649556
lmao I have no idea what IV is nor do I care

>>18649578
based retard

>>18649549
like 4 did, they just don't want to vote for massive govt spending
>>18649554
>natural gas
yes
>>18649559
still sad he only got one with the fish tank cleaner

>>18649578
>i played these slots and managed to win a few times. find a flaw in my strategy to continue playing these slots.

>>18649439
>>18649374


Lmao, there is zero new info you retards. You could actually go to NCBI and find similar numbers from the fucking '80s, for other respiratory viruses but also human coronavirus.

It's just Trump playing egoistic and trying to "prove he was right about summer".

>>18649556
That mindset is so fucking stupid. By far and away my most profitable call options have been bought with absurd IV, some over 300%. I don't buy a call option hoping the share price barely moves, I want to take advantage of the pump from volatility.

>>18649529
>>18649554
bearish on CARR desu

>>18649595
fun fact: slot machines actually do have winning strat built into them

>>18649537
Research companies and figure out if they are cheap or expensive using a variety of security-analysis metrics. Read through obscure business news, particularly fringe stuff like Zero Hedge or /biz/ and look for opportunities.

Basically, try to look into the future and see events that you think could make other investors rush into a stock a few weeks from now. For example, a few weeks ago on /biz/ we figured out there would be an oil glut and storage shortage right around now and people would rush into oil tanker stocks when they saw it on mainstream news.

in these uncertain times, i think it's a good time to pause while sipping your preferred brand of (obviously home-ground and home-brewed) coffee and educate yourself on the 2008 financial crisis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0BHAD4tQwQ

>>18649622
there are very few modern slots that have a positive EV other than video poker, but otherwise no, they don't.
I think theres that scarab one that relies on someone else having played it for a while before you and accumulated some scarabs

Can't wait to stock up on more RTX tomorrow morning.

REFR chads omgggggggggg wish i bought more

>>18649640
Based. What coffee do you lads enjoy? Made myself a half liter of Ethiopian pour over today. Got the beans from a local roastery that is roasting the day you order and shipping a day later. It is fresh and it is delicious boys. Fuck anything less

>Sauren the Great
Come on now

>>18649377
this, duh. fucking idots

>>18649398
Teach me

>>18649642
I guess depends on manufacturer. Slots I worked with are connected into profits redistributing grid with some machines having "luck" strat of giving you a chance to win x and if you manage to win x you are allowed to try to win next level of return in y spins. And if you manage to win that you have a chance of winning even more on z spin etc etc. It's obvious whole grid is profitable but some machines are destined to lose by same centralized logic unit

Is PLAY the most boomer stock out there?

>>18649220
Australia no longer has this problem

>>18649646
accumulated 162 shares avc is like 66 dollars, planning on holding for at least a couple years

>>18649646
Why? What is so good about RTX

>>18649128
haha I bought 2500 shares at 17.30 this morning and thought I was retarded. thanks for making me feel less retarded.

There is goes. These pieces of shit would do it during futures.

WHAT IS HAPPENING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18649554
yes supply will be cut with shale going out of buisness

>>18649640

>>18649607
nah, it's about overcoming the psychological fear hurdle for normies.
kinda like saying that it's more likely you'll get struck by lightning than die from corona-chan if you're not a boomer.

>>18649723
I've only ever read about slots, not worked with them, (did some advantage video poker for perks with czr and mgm) but I didn't think this was legal in the US

Just a heads up, I put $50k in the stock market today. All tech stocks.
Expect a bloody red tech selloff tomorrow.

Oh I live in EU. Casinos are extremely regulated here, US is kinda wild west for us still

>SPY


LMAOOOOOOOOOO GET FUCKED

>>18649640
I don't need no coffee anymore

Friendly reminder to all my bear bros to get a Breville 870xl once we make it.

This is our lambo.

>>18649750
People realized how fucking dumb their president is

LOL @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIpFA3ll7gE

Support taken out indicating we were not in Wave 3. Next stop is optimistic 2763, worst case start of Wave C down. Either way, my calls are fucked since they expire tomorrow.

>>18649773

>>18649773
my god...nice pic xD

>I sold DEAC
NOOOOOOO

>>18649574
I called this to the T.

>>18649819
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>18649806
can coffee bros conform if this is good? looking to buy a really nice one

>>18649826
>I didn't take that one anon's advice who said to buy

fuck

>>18649826
Draft Kings stock will be +$200 in a few years. Its not too late to buy some calls on it my friend.

HAHAHAHAH CNN BTFO


SELL SELL SELL GET OUT OF ALL CNN POSITIONS ASAP FAKE NEWS CONFIRMED FOR THE WORLD

>>18649379
What are your positions?

>>18649860
what happened

>>18649854
William hill is a good buy

>>18649808
He is our moron.

>>18649742
>big upside from pratt and whitney acquisition
>very low P/E
>good dividend
it's a solid value stock that also happens to make pretty much every missile you've ever seen the navy shoot at an arab

>>18649724
no, disney is

>>18649868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC-UMAy2DJg

>>18649848
>adjustable grind settings
>hot water spout
>steam wand
>pressure gauge
>tamper on the left is attached to a magnet and easily slips off and back into the machine

>>18649724
PLAY is a gen x stock, they were the ones old enough to drink AND be interested in playing arcade games whn it started

>>18649848
I've got one and I love it. It has everything you need in one machine.

>>18649640
Matt Tibbi is a retard.

HOLY SHIT FUTURES TANKING

>>18649909
what did he say in that video that was retarded?

Okay which one of you was this

>>18649848
It is pretty good and has more features than you can see. Look up a demo of the machine on youtube

>>18649870

>You think a solid flu vaccine would not work for corona?

Mortgages for high-value properties down massively

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/mortgage-market-meltdown-even-wealthiest-loan-applicants-are-now-being-turned-down

>Stanley Middleman, chief executive officer of Freedom Mortgage Corp. said: "Much of this pullback is because investors who’d normally buy these loans no longer want them. Whether the assets are good or not good is irrelevant because there’s no liquidity to buy them.”
>Borrowers that were ready to put up 20% may now need to put up 30%. “A month ago, he was a no-brainer. Now he’s 50-50,” Germanides concluded.

>>18649922
>tfw no chigirl that talks you away from bad investment

>>18649640
The Big Short.
Margin Call.

What other movies should be on /biz/ watch list?

>>18649934
oh no no no BAMbros how shall we ever recover?

>>18649921
Didn't watch it, not gonna watch it. Fuck him.

>>18649242

Why?

>>18649954
Wells Fargo is the most exposed to this market apparently

>>18649957
okay sperg.

>>18649413
Real talk

>>18649922
I feel her pain

>>18649953
margin call was awful desu
watch boiler room

>>18649953
armageddon

>>18649413
>>18649976
hahaha vls go fwoosh

>>18649953
trading places

>>18649953
There will be blood

>>18649982
>margin call was awful desu
why

HOLY SHIT FUTURES MOONING

>>18649922
>Yesterday my robinhood friend tells me he's buying USO
>I tell him June contracts are still fucked and it's honestly he should wait because we're not bottomed out yet
>He panic bought at $3.07

He was watching the news too, he knew the same info I did. I don't get it, what is with millennials and USO

>>18649934
idk what im supposed to do with this information...

>>18650005
nothing happens in it, its just like
>haha look we're talking about 2008 but we didn't say so, do you get it
there's no real character development or plot beyond that

>>18649982
You watch margin call for the performance not the plot.

bought my first options today
AMD 70c 5/15
SNAP 15.5p 5/1
did i fuck up?

>>18649574
will i make it?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

There is a decent chance that we'll get a new daily increase record. NY is falling but others growing. They'll submit the last numbers in 1-2 hours. Currently 30k, Pennsylvania and Connecticut alone will get probably plus ~2k cases.

>>18650045
kek why?

>>18650017
>bro oil is so low it’s basically free money
> if it goes down it has to come back up right?
> if i buy uso down here it i’ll be able to pay off my student debt!

>>18650017
>muh cheapies

>>18650017
ETF generation with years of passive investing cuckoldry.
>>18650031
heh, thats what I liked about it, its like a bit artsy marco view into the tip of the event.

>>18649982
Fuck Ben Affleck.
>>18649989
Not exactly on subject matter.
>>18649995
Love that classic.

>>18649996
agreed.

>>18650012
That comes later. 1:00AM EST.

>>18650051
i live in CT. i want out.

>>18649953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QozGSS7QY_U

>>18650045
I mean..it might go to .08 at some point. Maybe. I'd sell there.

FUCK movies. post good documentaries on stock market related stuff. preferably on youtube so it's easy to watch for free.

>>18649953
What about wolf of wallstreet?

remind me again, how do options work in case of reverse split? USO is RSing 8:1 soon if nothing changed

>>18649379
pink, faggot

>>18650017
Boomers have been shilling “buy low, sell high” bullshit to us for decades so that when we see something that’s dropped a lot we just have the urge to buy it

>>18650051
nobody cares anymore now that we know ehat the curve looks like

>>18649934
nobody wants to be last to hold the hot potato of MBS

>>18650083
favorite movie

>>18650074
based whites win again.

>>18649539
It crashed (partially?) In March 20ish, but has 40% recovered, possible further crash if social distancing continues and unemployment continues. Otherwise it seems rational that there's a recovery on the way.

>>18650119
>recovery
>rational
What?

>>18650119
probably recovery instead of crash. i think at this point they know enough people have already got it and either died or recovered that we can start going back to normal. some people will still die but it won't overtax the medical system which is all they wanted.

I just realized.... the rise from yesterdays bottom to todays stopped at EXACTLY 61.8% of the remaining distance to the 61.8% retracement from the big move down. Futures just found support at 61.8% retracement from todays drop relative to the total move. This market isn't crazy, it's playing -exactly- by the book.

NEVER DOUBT FETTUCCINE!

meme line time everybody!
death cross formed on 30m, 1h, and tomorrow 4h chart.
will form on the 1d chart on monday.
first week of May is the next leg down.

>>18649953
The Game
Wolf of Wallstreet

basically every movie with michael douglas...then Tommy Boy, Big, Jerry Macguire

and my personal favorite: The Secret of My Success

>>18650139
I was going to point out that irony but I'm typing on my phone and it's slow as shit

>>18650077
Ooof, I'm having feels.

>>18650056
im going to be the next kennedy dynasty ill come out of the stock market crash a millionaire

>>18650157
Isn't TA bullshit though?

>>18650148
It will only recover if second waves are priced in (they aren't). The way the market reacted to the Gilead news should be a warning that this is all running on hope. Maybe that hope will be justified. But if it isn't this will crater very quickly.

oil

>>18650210
>be the next kennedy dynasty
>millionaire

Lol

>>18650155
>NEVER DOUBT FETTUCCINE!
what?

>>18650157
>not doing analysis based on star and planet alignment

>>18650220
Not all of it, some of it. Watching EMAs is actually a pretty good indicator of where shit goes and when. But you'll never know the highs or the lows, just have an idea of the direction.

>>18650246
the meme went over your head. he is talking about fibonacci retracements.

How pissed is everyone going to be when we all find out we have the antibodies and we shut down the country for the fucking sniffles?

>>18650271
and here I thought theres actually useful indicator Im not aware of

>>18650017
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18650275
that's what i'm waiting for. i've been checking my own and friends feces daily and i'm convinced that we already had it

>>18650275
>>>/pol/

>>18650275
Zoomers who collected free money from the government and did nothing but sit inside going to be saying it was necessary.

>>18650258
I listened to an audiobook about TA one time, they actually used to record planet alignment with grain prices way back, the author was trying to call it a stochastic addition lel
>>18650299
hows that taste

>>18650157
Death cross only applies to daily. It isn't a meaningful thing on shorter timeframes. Not to say that I'm particularly bullish at this juncture but you're using the term incorrectly outside of 1day scale.

>>18650275
not as pissed as I am daily seeing people throw all economic problems at Corona chan

>>18650275
it was just a prank bro

>>18650220
If you're retarded and using it for something it's not meant to do, yes.

>>18650097
>now that we know what the curve looks like

What do you refer by "the curve"? Case curve is highly limited by testing, which has been stagnant for about 3 weeks now. New ATH in daily cases weeks after the claimed "apex" will definitely cause turmoil.

Also, the curve will go exponential again if states open. Even in NYS which is the most fucked place, there is apparently about 13% infected (Although there is probably some level of selection bias inflating the number). With R0 of 2.5, the herd immunity is reached at 1 − 1/R0 = 60%. This means corona will instantly return without restriction measures and NYS cases will 4x and deaths more than that.

>>18650275
I want to see total death rates, YTY.

>>18650288
can't wait till 28th Im gonna shooooooooort aaaaaaah

Same thing that happened to oil this week will happen again in less than a month's time.
Easiest way to make money just open a short position with a beefy stop on June contracts.
No one gonna be buying that shit for another 2-3 months at least.
Redditors who bought USO are completely fucked.

>>18650288
Sometimes I wonder if anyone of those people read the prospectus or even did any research into the oil markets

>>18650303
Sorry bud, not /pol/. Results are already coming and it turns out probably 1/4 of the population had it.
>>18650318
filtered

>he didn't buy TVIX
it's going to moon tomorrow.

Don't you want to *turns head towards camera* buy a Breville Barista Express model number BES870XL?

>>18649742
>>18649413
Merger of UTX with RTN so great value.
It's volatile, you can get in, you can get out. You can double down, etc...
War stock. And war is inevitable.
It's a 'Murica stock, so it will go up in November when Trump wins.

Frankly, what is not to like?

Whoa

>>18650044
GUYS SOMEONE ANSWER MY SWEET DUBDUBS

>>18650333
it should be available in about 2-3 weeks. also the data lags so you need to give the CDC time to catch up.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData15.csv

>>18650350
you realize you're alt USO baggy?

>>18650357
congrats anon. Fuck

KEK
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1253455239044308993

>>18650164
"The secret of my success" - I like this one to. good pick. MRO - You know for once I can't wait till winter gets here.. All that natural gas and oil getting sucked out left and right. Glorious profits (and a much higher stock price). The lockdown shit will be ending soon, most states I think are looking at May/June for re-opening. Thank god, no more TP hoarding..

>>18649878
White privilege bullshit aside, im happy that im in position to trade the stock instead of getting blown up by tomahawks

>>18650364
Is that english?

>>18650357
current after hours bid is $2.70, prepare to be disappointed tomorrow.

>>18650288
why are they buying USO and not the oil futures themselves?

>>18650343
Yeah I don't understand where the obsession with energy ETFs came from, especially with these Reddit investors who are looking for short term gains.

fuck meme lines and fuck SEC filings. the true perfect strategy is to analyze pivots in price action and find out where everyone's stop loss likely is, and enter using your own stop loss 2-3 cents past the pivot. take out a basket of stop losses and boom, free fucking money, so easy. look at this fucking chink he does it all the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb8eA-1vimE

trap those bitches lmao

>>18650330
i mean the death curve and i mean that we know now that we can tamp down the virus (R<1) if we want to enough, so day to day stats will not affect the markets until a couple weeks after things start to reopen

>>18650396
Jesus its like you want a repeat of the negative valuations.

>>18650357
how much do you want to bet this is the mass of new robinhood ethots and sois buying this because they think its a weed stock

>>18650390
ok lemme translate to eng, why do you cuck yourself with ETF instead of asset itself just like USO cuckholders? You have same passive ETF fetish

>>18650393
Still green

The best investment strat is to write a bunch of ticker symbols on a tissue, fire a huge load into it, and but whatever has the (most or least) seed on it.

>>18650427
because TVIX will moon on huge red days

>>18650353
Plus it has a catchy name. RTX

>>18650345
Remind me why I should be staying at home again

>>18650373
That retard also proposed injecting disinfectants.

>>18650440
Stop replying to tripfags

>>18650426
wait what is it then?

>>18650362
Hey alright, thanks amigo. So WHY DIDNT WE SHUT DOWN IN 2015 or 2018?? I suppose the 2020 numbers have been affected by social distancing but still. It almost like people die from pneumonia every single year.

>>18650446
I’m sayin you SHOULDNT stay home. OPEN UP THE FUCKING COUNTRY.

>>18650449
you won't die of coronavirus after that, that's for sure

did cheetoman really say they should try curing the virus with lots of light?
we're crashing tomorrow right?

>>18650155
Fettuccini and Fredo are going to keep our children safe. We don't need to take guns, just keep the kids out of school.

>>18650345
is this bullish for white people?

>>18650455
>Research Frontiers is a nanotechnology company based in Woodbury, New York that was founded by Robert Saxe in 1965 to develop light control technology from Polaroid. The company develops and licenses its patented SPD-SmartGlass technology.

>>18649268
It's gonna be a double top you dumb dumb, we are going to ath before the real crash

>>18650440
so what youre saying is nothing changed while I was gone and people still buy vol instead of picking direction and make less money... Cool!

>>18650466
high R0 and necessity for immediate intervention in the middle of the flu season and the fact that it's entirely novel. Not to mention it creates an opportune moment to distract the whole globe while the financial elite reconfigure their spreadsheets to fuck the middle class into oblivion since Trump loves to frontline the "rally 'round the flag" shit. This crash was predicted as early as Feb. last year and there was evidence of slippage in Sept. Convenient.

Guys, what's the point of having bonds in your retirement account in this day and age? Screw the 80/20 rule...is it even worth having 5% in a total bond fund or pick up some long term US Treasuries?

>>18650466
because it wasn't a novel/new virus. they don't know how dangerous this thing is, as you've quite clearly seen with all the varying CFR numbers published. we'll find out eventually. this is an interesting video if you're interested in the topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI

>>18650399
>>18650396
It's become a meme. Also they look at the price and see USO as cheaper than buying oil lol I dunno.
2nd hand info from relatives speaking to their hedge fund manager and a business acquaintance in shipping so take it with a pinch of salt, with all storage at max capacity and refineries not buying crude this shit could get really fucking ugly. Outside of a fucking war there's nothing stopping this shit from dumping to levels lower than what we saw this week.

>>18650488
No. Whites are only low because we follow rules. Minorities can’t seem to comprehend them

>>18650515
80/20 only matters when you already have like $500,000

Otherwise metals are a better 20% because they will moon during recessions

>>18650514
we need to stop crying about this and start discussing how we can all profit from it. if you can't beat the jew, join the jew.

>>18650522
I agree with it dumping further, and I doubt many of these new "investors" are going to have the stomach to hold and will cause a major drop if/when the price goes down again

>>18650540
uso is on sale

>>18650556
Buy the dip and hold is the narrative, they are not weak hand. It need to go up before they dump

>>18650362
>>18650466
Those numbers do not include corona. They're flu surveillance.

>It almost like people die from pneumonia every single year.

Of fucking course they do

>>18650581
I sincerely doubt the strength of the average WSB/Redditer hands

i hope you guys got your bank calls for the fed pump tomorrow

>>18650540
>>18650567
>Join the jew
>And by that I mean the mass of plebs that just bought in

>>18650610
i hope you guys got your asses ready for my dick pump tomorrow

>>18650593
the .csv conveniently has total deaths per week, week over week, for years. let's see if there is a blip in the pattern once the covid19 virus deaths are accounted for. that's what's i'm most interested in. i'm not predicting any outcome either, i just want to see the data.

>>18650595
Wsb have been wiped out shorting this bulltrap, they are done

>>18650515
are we talking about junk, triple As, t notes or all of them combined? Cuz theres a fucking lot of reasons to be long 10Ys

>>18649953
glengarry glen ross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNQ_G5uKd18
> "Patel"? Fuck you. Fucking Shiva handed this guy a million dollars, told him "Sign the deal!" he wouldn't sign. And the god Vishnu too, into the bargain. Fuck you, John!

>>18649379
shit, i was thinking the same thing. I'm surprised it's gone down. The amount of ads they have right now will deter most people from sticking with it, but young kids growing with it will make us rich.
tl;dr long snap

I like you bulls. Don't hold equity tomorrow.

>>18650581
>>18650595
If oil starts to dump again like it did before they'll start squealing and jump out.
Everyone's forgetting that instutions are physically unable to buy crude and it's the most worthless shit if it can't be refined and used.

>>18650416
>i mean the death curve and i mean that we know now that we can tamp down the virus (R<1) if we want to enough, so day to day stats will not affect the markets until a couple weeks after things start to reopen
Places like Hong Kong and South Korea have succeeded to bring the R down to below 1 without any lockdown, but in America it doesn't seems to be succeeding at it when the number of new infection still growing

>>18649379
CAR POOR

>>18650656
No junk, no corporate, no munis. Just T notes, or a general bond fund like BND.

>>18649613
Can you share some of your most profitable high IV option buys that you did in the last few months?

>>18650669
I was just thinking of this scene yesterday

>>18649631
>bought a decent amount of tanker stocks recently. should I sell or hold?

>>18649953
scrooge mcduck

>>18650686
I don't think they are forgetting but rather are ignorant to it.

Bummer. I knew it'd be low but I actually glanced at my online savings account interest rate and it's 1/10th of what it was 3 months ago
Time for bond etfs

who else /wwe/ here?

>>18650518
I watched it, thanks. It is interesting but I’m not about to jump onto any conspiracy bandwagons. I hope we can learn from this but I have a sneaking suspicion that as we start ramping up testing for coronaviruses, every year there is going to be a blip and because of this particular variant people are going to go crazy again.

>>18650691
the case curve is limited by testing, what you do is you look at the change in (#deaths today) and it gives you an idea of the change in (#new infections 3 weeks ago), since people die roughly 3 weeks after being infected on average

Test

>>18650757
There is no possible way they've missed all the news about storage being full. This has to be some level of purposeful ignorance

>tfw I went all in on WLL today and lost all my gains

Fuck, I hope it rebounds in the morning. Trump needs to fix this oil market ASAP. Can we just carver bomb Saudi Arabia and Iran and then blockade the Straight of Hamaz?

>>18650797
>WLL
nigga why?

>>18650810
I was day trading and trying to make a quick profit. As soon as I went in, it started dipping. The only way to make it is to be high test and play balls to the wall.

Imagine NOT being a bear

I'm looking forward to all the AAA posting tomorrow

>>18650693
well I prefer smthn like TLT or SHY but main two reasons are:
1 as you can see on the chart, at least for me on my investment frame bonds are actual bull market. Stonk bulls are absolute losers compared to treasury bulls, clearly. This is what bullish line looks like.
2 pay attention to purple ratios and 10day range I highlighted. If you're plebian you saw bonds, gold and stocks all decline as if theres no protective asset on the planet. Wrong. Purple line is ratio how much SP500 you gold or TLT couldve bought you and while everything including my gold or your treasuries was crashing, you still were able to convert your trasuries for 50% more SP500 than just holding stonks since 2018

>>18650767
i'm not a conspiracy guy either, but i can understand the visceral human reaction when informed about a potentially existential threat, real or not, and the motivations behind the various folks deemed important enough to be included in the decision making along the way. if i was a health professional and called upon to provide my input, you better believe i'm going to be extremely careful as i dont want the deaths of anyone attached to my name. i believe the same sort of thing is happening here. we'll see though.

>>18650044
>70c
Jesus. That is... Ambitious.

>>18650780
Maybe so they can post their robinhoods on reddit when shit goes south and get upvotes?
I don't think they should be discouraged.

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>>18650841
>50% more SP500 than just holding stonks since 2018
80% more
over 10 days protective function of treasuries potentially saved you 50%

>>18650832
I'm balls deep in puts, these retards won't know what hit them....

>>18650774
Numberof death only count death among.confirmed cases

>>18650830
not gonna lie I applaud the balls of the play, but I just question the underlying logic.

>>18650723
Sure, I crushed SPCE and that was one that was absurd IV something like 395% on the 2/21 $25 calls.

>>18649439
>80% humidity
>95F
>Half life
So it only goes away during a heat wave or a rainstorm? This indicates that when someone coughs or sneezes, its infectious for several minutes in the air.
This looks really bad.

>>18650556
even if oil goes up USO does not have to go up to. It could even loose value. USO is not a good Long term invenstment in oil best scenario for USO is a sharp short term recovery but that is unlikely Right now

>>18650879
There is no logic in this market, fren.

>tfw down over $200 on WLL cheapies

>>18650797
>blockade the Straight of Hamaz?
Lel

>>18650841
Never thought to overlay TLT with the other indexes. Good stuff, thanks. I'm amazed US bonds aren't talked about, the Extended Duration ETF is up like 45% over the year.

>>18649102
That's what my vagina looks like

>>18650155
shut up retard

>>18650909
>I'm amazed US bonds aren't talked about
because goyim shall not know. Let's chase stonks while real BVLL makes real gains
But to be fair no asset is a buy & hold for centuries, it's just this is the times and economy right here right now, in 5+ years stuff will be different but so should be goyims opinion on all assets

Holy fuck I'm up $80 do I sell or hold?

>>18650682
zoom in

>>18650847
I hear you. I wouldn’t want to be in that position either and if forced to make policy I would try to play it safe, too. It is just sad to see so many crippled by fear of death. Yea I’ll do everything I can to try not to kill or be killed tomorrow but chances are my luck will run out someday.

>>18649537
What anon said about 1% is important. If you're going to fuck around with day trades/swing trades you have to be ready to take the losses when they come.
Let's say you buy a ticket for an aborted moon mission on some dipshit penny stock.
>$500/.80 per share of Holocaust Education, Inc (HOAX)
>625 shares
One percent is $.008/share, or $5 of your initial commitment. Use a stop limit, so if HOAX sinks after you buy it you will at least cut your loss. I will sometimes increase my window to 5% for something I've researched, feel good about, and would like to swing. But a 5% loss on HOAX would be $25, and these losses add up fast if you're playing day trader on your poorfag app while you take a shit.
Take modest gains when you get them and move the profit to your long positions, mutual funds, or savings account (don't forget future tax obligations). Cut your losses on bad trades. Stay the fuck away from options. Those require serious research and a lot of intelligence, and even then they are a huge risk for most people. I don't have the brains for them, but I make about $500/month on day and swing shit using caution and by not being greedy. It should be noted, however, that I miss out on some huge gains by not swinging for the fences now and again. Anon is also right when he said it's a time-consuming hobby for us poorfags.
Good luck.

>>18647530
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>>18647530
migrate

>>18650353
Sounds like I need to get me some RTX

>>18650488
>>18650524
I legit think europeans/whites have a better immune system after being ravaged by plague after plague since the dawn of humanity outside of Africa. Culling 2/3 the population every few hundred years is fucking strong selection.