/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18621897
*sells butterfly spreads*
ty citizen snips

Why is it called, bear, bull and crab? They don't even trade stocks!

Thank god an actual thread not full of reddit faggots

threadly reminder to report that one autist for spam

>>18621940
because you touch yourself at night

""""crisis""""

right?

>>18621940
Bullshit. You think crabs can't bear the risk?

Sorry friend, you just made this thread by mistake. I already made a new /smg/ located here:

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To reduce board spam, please use the threads in order of creation:

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>>18621795

Thoughts on SPCE? I'm thinking of going long

I'm from WSB.

Hi.

>>18621970
Do not go to that thread. It was created by a reddit fucking cancer

>>18621970
stay in your containment thread and stop posting here
you r/wsb fags fuck up the vibe

Oh god we're doing this bullshit again?

Is the US about to go to war? It’s time to vote.

>https://strawpoll.com/pgsk22kp

>>18621970
Sorry friend, other shit-thread is made by wsbretard who can't even paste the thread contents in new thread.
>go fuck yourself retard

>>18621971
>18621971
I am bullish on SPCE

BUY USO
LAST WARNING BEFORE THE PUMP

How do I learn to buy more and more of a stock even though it already doubled in price?

I have like reverse FOMO.

>>18622000
>make a thread when the last one hits the bump limit
>this guy loses his marbles

I am mind breaking this guy day by day.

Friendly Reminder of the real thread:
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Im blasting off bros, hope I hit the moon

>>18622016
Nice try, USO

USO you fucking nigger just go below 2.50.

>>18622000
just report and ignore him

>>18622004
If they do, i will fucking bomb their bases in my country. I'm sick of these assholes shitting all over the world and dragging us into their inane bullshit wars. Behead Bush and i might even forgive your last falseflag.

>>18622000
this was never a problem until now, what changed? /pol/tards came over?

>>18622026
hateful reminder:
fuck you. this is the real thread

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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>18622059
wrong, do not go to that thread

report all these wsb faggots

>>18621940
you think crabs got these sick ass sexy claws for nothing? Snipping and snabing bulls balls and bears testicales are their profession

>>18622000
I hate these fucking retards so much.

>>18621948
thanks, forgot.

>>18622051
/pol/tards at least comprehend continuous generals since there are many there, reddit retards clearly don't, so that's my interpretation. I just filter as soon as the retard gets baited and then the thread is comfy again

>>18622051
it's r/wsb fags
/pol/ understands how generals work

>>18622083
How do I filter the reddit niggers?

>>18622059
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>>18622091
if you have to ask, you have to go back

>>18622016
Fake news USO

>>18622091
In the thread, filter the ID. Best you can do sadly.

>>18622092

What the fuck is up with this no volume bullshit

Hey guys r/wsb refugee here. What are we buying puts on today? SPY looks poised for another drop.

>>18621948
I report it every time

>>18622051
No. Even /pol/tards. As idiotic as they are, tend to respect the generals. Dunno what this dudes problem is. He was making literally dozens of threads last night for some reason.
USO is down 11% which is bringing the predictions that the fund could go insolvent into being as it's no longer tracking oil like it should. VIX is down to 41 which means that the volatility is dropping off.
My choice stocks have been tailing back to their open levels as well.
Kind of a boring day on the street.

>>18622118
new bull market

Just bought some Russell 2000 puts.

Honestly small cap is absolutely going down. There is no way around it. These are all shitty zombie companies barely keeping their heads above water as is.

>>18622004
No, our trade deal with china is very juicy. the golden arches should apply. Trump is a President of peace and seems to rightfully be shafting literally everyone, magically.

>>18622110
>>18622099


I have board wide filters for "Link, Chainlink, linkies" etc that gets rid of the threads but I havent figured out how to get rid of individual cancerous polyps,

What am I missing?

Guys, the other one was made first. Just use it and use this second. Why did you even make a second thread?

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>>18622118
Why would anyone buy right now?

>Retard tells me DEAC is a bad buy
>Already up 4% from when I was shilling it
Based

>>18622118
in the nu-market you aren't allowed to sell your stonks, the fed will take them off your hands at the ask

>>18621840
Ehh I figure if it's too small the gains just dont seem worth the risk. If im gonna risk i migjt as well go in with a thousand or 3.

Posting here too cause theres crybabies moaning about the sticky in the other one in case ur not over there.

>>18622051
It's not /pol/. They were here during the crash along with the other boards and it wasn't nearly as bad. This is outside.

>>18622152
imagine the sequence of decisions that led a human being to this point

>>18622130
Who's your broker?

>>18622139
Just ignore them and they'll go away

>>18622152
Why anon it's the max level autistic HOA homeowner control freaks getting butthurt.

>>18622152
The OP is empty on that one fuck off.

>when you bought spy puts

>>18622176
Bro the other thread was made first and the OP of this one made another on purpose

Just use one at a time and everyone stop sperging

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>>18622122
AAPL, AMZN, AMD, HAL
It's the AAAH porfolio.

>>18622183
>max level autistic HOA homeowner control freaks
kek

>>18622153
Because it bounced off a key level. Because it's going up. Because VIX is going down. Because they don't want to be broke before the real crash starts. Because they want more money to short the top with.

>>18622194
NDAQ puts are the real weird shit, shit's down 2% and my $105 puts barely moved.

>changing IP to spam your shitty thread
Big yikes.

>>18622204
>Being this new.

>>18622204
Being first doesn't matter if you can't even make the general correct you buttblasted plebbit faggot

K Y S
Y
S

>>18622169
Learn proper risk management. You can have 10 feelings that double your capital and one wrong feeling that brings you down to nothing, that's not a winning move. Much better to get 10% on each of the 10 trades and only -2% on the one you fail. With proper risk management and enough trading over time, you end up with a virtually unkillable position, OR you exit the trading game with more than half your money left knowing it's just not for you.

>>18622204
You should be on medication. You're unwell.

>>18622230
You should have been here last night. The guy who gets mad and makes duplicate /smg/ threads after one is already made turned on a VPN and made 8 /smg/ threads and posted porn everywhere

thoughts bros?

>>18621897
WHO'S BUYING REEEEE!!!

Honest question.
What could possible happen for the market to fall to March again?

why is volume so low today what the fuck is going on

>>18622289
Harsher restrictions on coronavirus that extend until 2021

Set a goal to have 25,000 sitting in the bank by the time I turn 40. (3 years from now,sadly). Due to seeding my brokerage account and life events I've got 13,670 in there now. So only 11,330 to go. I think I can pull it off via aggressive saving,tax refunds and especially if they send out another wave of Govt checks.

>>18622296
No one is actually jumping back in the market. What we're seeing is roughly just algos buying and selling to other algos.

Awww yissss, gimme dat free institutional quality research.

>>18622289
>Retard states re-open too early
>huge surge in cases due to increased testing capacity
>people panic again

>>18622296
>why is volume so low today
we just entered a bull market anon

>>18622126
I just want the next leg down to start so i can sell my turbo shorts, and buy some RTX so i can post my homemade RTX meme

>>18622296
I feel like someone has said this every day for a month, the volume is the same if you ignore the 15 minute EOD poomp

>>18622309
>1990 was 30 years ago

>>18622289
once the general public realizes that we're not flattening curves, merely finding restrictions in the pacing of testing. combine that with more protests, re-infections, wave 2, running out of money, etc.

whats the smg or biz discord?

>>18622289
Printer breaks
Unemployment keeps growing
Oil supply glut doesn't stop
Lockdown orders stay in place
Mass debt defaults

>>18622225
what's the target? the old top looked like it was 2920. I'm still voting for 2840 or 2810, unless we just piddle around until after hours.

>>18622255
that anon seemed like they snapped at the other fags. that ID is probably only guilty of faggotry in the second degree. not first.

>>18622337
go find it in a shitcoin thread

>>18622309
I had half that after working for 6 months. It pays to go to college.

>>18622337
>wanting to join a discord of /smg/
imagine all the boomies and zoomies, coming together as ooooone

>>18622296
Big money is sitting this out, all that's happening now is bots and MM's trying to scalp retail money

>>18622329
then why the fuck is spxl jumping like some shitty penny stock

>>18622309
>tfw also turn 40 in 2023
I don't like it one bit.

>>18622337
>UHHHHHHHHHHHHH GOD UHHHHHHH
>*SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*
>MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>18622344
nigga, i dont fuck with shitcoins

>>18622362
zoomie here, looking for bear boomie

>>18622329
the average has gone down significantly for the past 2 weeks.

>>18622360
looks like it also pays to not get kicked out by your boomer parents and to live in an area with good economic opportunity. huh. no excuse for 37 y.o. anon - better late than never.

>>18622370
no idea, but spy only matters for 12 minutes out of the day

just bought puts 5/15 @ 5 for JNUG
i hope it makes money bros...

>>18622401
This is an actual fucking clown market. Look at that shit.

Why is USO down 10% today but my USO puts are also down 10% today?

I REALLY hope you're not shorting the bottom

>>18622370
because it is a product structured to do that?

>>18622419
Same. Probably the experation date on the put

>>18622397
Good, pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

What is the most based stock and why is it LOW?

>sell at market open
>make big bucks
>stay up 15m watching news and markets
>crabbing
>go to sleep for 2 hours
>wake up
>everything still crabbing
Is it pump or dump day?

Where is that retard that bought HAL?

Thanks for fucking up our pump day asshole. Sell your shit now so the rest of us can pump

So I'm all in on oil tankers /biz/, my hands are already feeling weak, reassure me I'm making the right move here pls.

>>18622419
My puts are still down because I bought them when IV was high, yesterday. I bought them at 0.9, but they're sitting at 0.5 right now. Unless this shit goes to 2 dollars, I'll probably not make my money back.
God fucking damn it.

>>18622386
make and mod a discord yourself, fucks sake

>>18622418
volume has was picking up last week if you look at the dailies.

>>18622432
Home Depot is MUCH better

>>18622434
>Sleeping at any point of intraday
ngmi, boomer

>>18622277
Me bro, I just loaded up on some snss because some anon told me to

>>18622455
You aren’t. Oil companies have already said the June and July contracts are completely fucked. We’re in for a wild ride.

>>18622424
i watch that shit everyday and its never moved so slowly with big gaps like this before

>>18622455
in the same boat as you

>Thread wars

nigger-kid tier
good job

>>18622401
>start of day
>open shorts
>end of day
>close shorts

>>18622418
It's retarded, all the movement happens in the futures and then the market just crabs all day after open

The charts look like a fucking shitcoin with all these barts

>>18622419
Those puts were priced for USO going bust. The Oil VIX was in the thousands yesterday so the vol crush is insane.

>>18622023
Any help?

where the FUCK are my cheapies??

>>18622475
That would imply he's exactly right to be in tankers, retard.
>>18622455
You're probably fine. It will zigzag until earning day then probably soar, and finally dump, just to repeat at the next earnings.
>>18622482
Hohoho

yep everything green expect the stock i bought

Why the FUCK did i buy ITM calls on JBLU and RTX? They expire 6/19, how bad did I fuck up?

Its been like this for weeks. All the action is at start and end of day. And now its moved to right before and right after the day. You can literally watch the first 5 minutes before the day and after the end of day and you will see 98% of the action.

>>18622516
no idea because you didnt tell us the premium or strike

>>18621897
Why isn't my NET mooning, bros?

Is there any way to tell if there will be a EOD pump? Slept in and am looking for good day trade plays, but feel like I missed the boat.

Imagine buying USO

>>18622539
DEAC will be voting tomorrow on whether or not to go through with the April IPO for DraftKings. Expect an EOD pump there

>>18622462
bought 2 days ago 3.5p at .56 sitting comfy at 1.37. wish I sold at 1.8 but still 150%. getting out now though due to reverse split and them restructuring the whole ETF to be literally whatever they want it to be

>spy 265 5/1 put
>down 40% today after up 30% yesterday
How long do you hold options till you realize you fucked up

>SYY up $10 per share since I bought
>divvies on Friday

Thank you based divvy bro

>>18622484
I'll make another thread without the sticky in a month or so when he forgets.

Is KTOS a good buy?

>>18622539
Flip a coin. Heads we pump, tails we dump.

What crypto to buy, and how much should I invest? Is btc going to drop to below 5k anytime soon?

>>18622583
If you want to underperform chad LMT

>>18622539
There's always a pump.

>>18622569
I don't know if you are shilling your bags or genuinely trying to help. If so, thanks, but I will watch in the sidelines.

Nio is dumping aaaaa

>oil at $20 a barrel
>XOP up
>oil at -35$ a barrel
>XOP up
>oil at 9$ a barrel
>XOP up
>oil at 15$ a barrel
>XOP up
What the fuck?

this board has been negative value trash all week jesus christ just ban all these redditors already

>>18622545
I'M IN TOO DEEP

>my oil positions are doing better than my bank positions
*honk honk*

>>18622238
Wow why is he stickied????

>>18622602
Always happens during turbulent times.

>>18622569
Priced in

>>18622585
SPY, whatever you want. Crab until the eventual heat death of the universe.

>>18622585
just let us have one thread it’s all we ask

>>18622585
Wrong thread

>>18622598
Sorry my bad there is usually a pump. I'm gonna delete my old post.

>>18622576
it all depends on when you bought it. if you bought it when spy touched 279-280, you should be fine. you don't need it hold it til expy either. we could get a 2% drop tomorrow and you'll be fine.

>>18622602
He's ban evading with a vpn

>>18622602
>reddit
>newfag
>nigger
>wsb

Why even have an s&p if its just Facebook Google and microsoft?

>>18622601
Priced in wasn't a meme.
You should have bought in February.

>>18621940
Bulls dip their head down before they charge, so bull is when things are going down. Bears hibernate and sleep flat, so when nothing happens it's a bear. Crabs have their claws up in the air, so when things go up it's crabbing. Sometimes you just have to think through things and they make sense.

BullBoi

>>18622643
boomers

>>18622576
When the reason you initiated the position is proven false or your stop loss is hit. I closed my puts when we bounced twice in the 272 range because it was a key level I was waiting for.

Did someone press pause on the stock market?

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Alright guys, I watched The Big Short last night and I'm ready to get rich. What's the play?

>>18621940
>>18622650
That's not it at all..... The bull just charges forward. So it's always bull, the crab moves sideways so sometimes it is crab, and the bear fucks everything with its big bear cock, so sometimes we do the bear and fuck the market.

>>18622650
This newfag
Crabs are because they suck at walking and only go one way, like the stock market

>>18622576
>5/1
>265
Get the fuck out. I lost a fuckton on shit like that. If you think its going down, just buy a deep in the money put thats a few weeks farther out than you think it should be.

If you want a day trade, buy now. It's about to death cross on the minute chart but the algos will probably do a huge green candle to prevent that.

>>18622465
Why home Depot over Lowe's?

USO bros I'm scared

I need a vaccine
I HAVE THE COOF

>>18622047
Based and redpilled

Should I make another thread?

>>18622697
buy every memestock and hold until rich

>>18622709
SELL YOU FOOL! Its going to zero!

>>18622699
Sometimes you're okay tripfag.

What should I buy besides SNSS?

>>18622724
Nah let this one at least hit 300 first.

>>18621897
I have $2700 to invest in stocks but I am paralyzed by fear, what should I do /biz/?

>Please help me

>>18622724
There's already 2 threads active without the bump limit hit.

So yes, make another thread.

>>18621940
Crabs walk sideways

>>18622650
This. How do you boomers in this thread not know about the spirit animals?

>>18621897
We will re-test the ATH before the next leg down.
The up to wipe out all the bears and to fomo the retail investors
The down to wipe out the bulls.

Maximum carnage and pain, thus the most likely outcome.

>>18622744
VFIAX

>>18622727
they're doing an 8 to 1 reverse stop split on the 28th. Would it be a good idea to buy puts on it at that point?

>>18622702
It closed at 273 yesterday. Figured this week of gigantic companies posting retarded earnings combined with oil at 10$ a barrel would be enough to slow the money printer

>>18622744
look for profitable Companies with a wide moat and low debt and then just hold them

>>18622687
no, it looks like where hitting a major short term downward trend line on S&P & Dow. nasdaq looks like it'll crawl up another half a percent. my guess is that S&P and dow have about 2% upside. doubt we'll get there anytime soon.

What do you guys know about WLL.

Some say it's overvalued at 80 cents, others say it's way undervalued, with analysts putting the stock at a future 4.50

I took the Fibonacci pivot meme. Improved my entries and exits quite a bit.

>>18622740

>>18622753
She's built like a unit.

>>18622808
>she
anon...

>>18622465

I need some sources for your LCI hopium. I'm on the fence about buying 1k shares.

>>18622780
or at all

Hmm, SNSS looks like a decent quick profit generating play. Something I may look into during the end of the year. When you have 3500 bucks to use as ammo each little penny uptick adds up to nice profits. Long as it ain't something that'll fuck me over I'll give it a shot to make a nice fat quick buck.

>>18622744
NTSX in taxable or PSLDX in non-taxable.

So next month is going to be the financial rip dip? I'm sure all those loans given out to the unemployed pre and during COVID19 are going to default and decreased earnings no one is going to want a loan in the first place

>>18622836
>SNSS
you can put your tripcode back on SNSS anon. I kno it's you trying to peddle that garbage again

>>18622780
>>18622834

If everyone think it's gonna fall, it won't

see >>18622769

>>18622788
They went bankrupt. Go with FANG. That's the chad play.

>>18622769
Agreed, I think we blow past to new highs

>>18622687
Everyone knows shit is weird. Oil is up too despite literally nothing changing. Production still full throttle, demand still at 0 storage still full. Buy, buy buy. Someone needs to turn off the bull market AI at the NYSE.

>>18622863
>If everyone think it's gonna fall
i think most people are expecting a jump to the 62% fib around 2950. we've got a day or two left.

>>18622881
yep

>>18622869
At this rate we'll just oscillate +/- 2% for the next eternity.

How will the markets ever be in a position to correct themselves when the mouthbreathing masses "BUY THE DIP" every time it trends down a couple of percentage points?

hey oilbros how are ya holding up?

Good morning SMG!! Looks like another day of Regeneron pumping and no cheapies! Boring!

Has any of /smg/ actually read about MMT? Is there any reason to dismiss it as nonsense besides the fact that it just sounds dumb and wrong?

Can you tell me why it’s garbage without relying heavily on metaphors or idioms?

>>18622769
When I told you guys to read about the pain trade I didn’t mean you have to take it so literally...

>>18622910
it won't and can't. there is significant inherent exposure to speculation.

>>18622836
>Decent quick profit generating play
>A nice fat quick buck
>End of the year

What the hell are you even on about?

>>18622922
kill yourself faggot

Man the market is boring today.
Got a measly 7k to my name. Fucking never gonna triple it. So slow.

And I'm too dumb to fuck with puts.

After all this is over and market stabilizes i really don't see the point of trading for average joe.

Right now its a circus of gleeful fun.
Can't see what is fun for average Joe when stocks move .2cents a day.

>>18621940
like this fucking stock! ABEV3 on the hue hue B3 index. crabbing all day, i cant take it any longer

>>18622910
A million people dropping a grand in ford and apple stocks will do literally nothing compared to the fed dropping a trillion fucking dollars every day

I lost everything on calls this week because I'm a fucking retarded gambler junkie.

How do I make $8k back, biz? Show me your wisdoms, I want to be a champion like you.

Stock Market: LIFE AFTER PEOPLE

>>18622857

>>18622326
post the meme anyway anon

>>18622964
dilate

DECN $1.00 tomorrow morning. Screencap this.

Please spare me...

>>18622954
I also would like to know how to tone down my retardation

>>18622935
Nope, but have a free (you) while I finish my coffee!

End of day pump????

Alright alright alright alright alright
i'm gonna drop this shit
FUCK the fed
FUCK bullniggers
FUCK the PPP
FUCK the constant price manipulation.

>>18622994
eh?

>>18622992
how does it feel knowing that everyday your parents wake up and are ashamed of you?

>>18622954
>>18622990
1) go commit die
2) ???
3) /biz/ profits

Buy gold puts

>>18622994
Market only been open 4 hours. Still 3 more left. Anything can happen.

>>18622922
Venezuela, Argentina, it's not modern, it's shit that has been done over and over again with bad results.

How does Microsoft release revenue reports for the second quarter of 2020 in January 2020? Do they live in the future?
https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/29/microsoft-earnings-q2-2020/

We're going to 2920.

>>18623024
>reddit
>CNBC
>square

Big Oof, that's a yikes from me dawg

>>18622912

>>18622940
When the market is relatively stable and set to rise, sell options dude. Free money.

>>18623011
I don't know why there are any people bothering to be bears anymore, there are too many things manipulating the market to make it go up that nothing but what the fed buys really matters.

>>18622965
Gotta reupload it and get it to under 3 mb one sec

>>18622708
I've been in the construction field about my whole life and everyone basically talks shit on Lowes.. and i'm not just talking about my local lowes I mean I've traveled to areas over 60 miles away with the same feedback.

Lowes has shit customer service, it's for mom and pop to get a new faucet or appliance

Home Depot has great customer service and caters to not only mom and pop looking for faucet or appliance but also all building material.

Every Home Depot I've been to is packed and every Lowes I've been to isn't.. and i've been to a lot.. seriously.. just walk up to a construction site near you and ask which one they'd rather get their things from.

>>18622824
There are so many good things going on with LCI it's unreal. Way undervalued. They've been launching drugs left and right 2 of which maybe even 3 will be hitting annual markets of over 1billion for each one and thats only 3 drugs out of like 24 and the stock is trading with a market cap under 400mill???? way fucking under valued

LCI to $60

>>18623027
>"Wtf guys, I bought when others were fearful and stuff like Warren Buffett. Why is it not going up?"

Why does it feel like they're about to pull the fucking rug again?

This entire drop has been based on distraction and misdirection.

While everybody is focused on oil and blue chips. The kikes are loading up on 5G, wireless, semiconductors, and cloud computing cheapies.

Data stocks have already recovered and before the big blast off and this is another misdirection tactic. Have you had the thought "oh i would buy EQIX or NET but they are already at pre-corona prices! "
If you have, you are actively being KIKED, these stocks are still cheap but you are getting KIKED into thinking it's already recovered.

EQIX is a 1000 dollar stock
NET is a 50 dollar stock
CSCO is a 75 dollar stock

At the VERY LEAST buy semiconductors. Perhaps SOXL.

Oil, healthcare, airlines are all distractions

>>18623030
Some companies operate on staggered fiscal year timelines as compared to the rest of the market. Could be leading, could be lagging. Depends on the company.

>>18623066
Rug pulling hours start at 4:30PM

Thinking on diversifying my investments as such
Oil (murphy shell etc.)
Airlines ( cheap as hell thx to COVID)
Lithium (elon loves lithium)
Apple? (releasing new SE phone)

Why tf did T dump after good earnings

>>18622971
Sneed yourself

>turn on work laptop
>lay in bed and read /smg/ and look at my positions
>nap when sleepy
>tickle my laptops touchpad every 10 mins so that my Skype icon doesn’t flip to “away”
Thank you coronachan

DAL at all time low during crash. Buy buy buy buy

>>18623030

A lot of their products are B2B. I wonder if their revenue streams are stable enough that this is possible.

>>18623011
i think this is because nasdaq earnings were positive. blood soon. we're not opening for a while. we;re not opening back up in may

>>18622954
>>18622990
>have a qt 3.14 black gf
>kiss her before opening bell for good luck
>make really lucky decisions that get you all the muns
>make sure to kiss your cutie gf at closing bell to thank her for the good luck
Trust in the black girl magic anon. It is a simple secret but it has made me very rich.

>>18623071
i'll do soxl it for her

>>18623063
around my area it's Home Depot that's considered to be shit and Menards that's the king, I don't think we have any Lowes around here.

>the absolute state of the market

Hello fellow human traders. Please buy market. You say market needs to go up and down. See? Up. Down. Please stop withdrawing 401k

>>18623038
What an idiot

>>18622004
Did I make a point or want another couple votes?

>>18623058
I want to see the meme, anon.

>>18622922
Things have value because scarcity. If you BRRRRRRRRR you reduce scarcity, which devalues whatever you BRRRRRRR. Finance stopped talking to econ and now you got retarded shit like negative priced commodities and central banks buying negative rate bonds from each other.

>>18623084

i think it just went up way too much premarket and no one wants to play that game

>>18623066
Bears need more pain before the big drops.

>>18623086
fucking based

>>18623066
>what mean?

>>18623107
Ah! The wall street algorithm has finally manifest itself as a talking being.

I should do peddling. May grow some small crops and sell the produce at a small profit...

>>18623086
>>tickle my laptops touchpad every 10 mins
https://github.com/cerebrate/mousejiggler

>>18623125
Bulls need more pumps and gains. Turn on the fucking money printer.

>>18623107
Manipulation on the highest level WE have ever seen. At least the volume shows the truth of this shitshow.

>>18623086
you too?

Loaded to the tits with may snap puts, enjoy your FOMO bullbois

>>18623084
Good outlook is bearish. Best companies to invest in right now are ones that will be bankrupt in 3 months

>>18623084
Patience, He always rebounds quickly. Which is why dips are a gift to be taken advantage of.

>>18623038
based optionsnewbie24

never going to break through 2800

days like today when neither bulls nor bears are memeing in /smg/
these are the worst days.

>>18623107
You can actually see the fucking cliff coming. This economic house of cards is fucked

>>18623176
It's kind of funny but look at TESLA- they don't produce shit. The earnings will be horrible people still flock to it.

>>18623026
Venezuela and Argentina nationalized their industries and relied heavily on oil exports didn’t they?

They’re both “socialist” states that have bizarre oppressive regimes? I know Argentina’s famously “disappeared” many people for decades.

They don’t have the trust and rule of law that successful countries do. It’s hard to say that their problems were do mainly to MMT, they were just shitty countries with shitty economies that printed buttloads of money.

>>18623188
>the worst
no, the best.

>>18623042
Ok. Will have to research options for dummies and get smarter

I'd like to have a single buyer explain their logic to me. Seriously. Why would anyone say, take out a May 15th 290 call on SPY? Even if you're not expecting a serious return for six months, you must know it will drop right?
Who the fuck is buying?

>>18623178
I bought call spreads after it went down for next month.

>>18623038
how can you be SO FUCKING STUPID
i don't get it. it's well deserved. wondering how people like that get that kind of money anyways.

>le market droped -300%, now it will go up to old level and i will be rich xD

holy kek tyson foods had to shut a plant that processes 4% of all pork in the usa, so 20,000 pigs PER DAY aren't gonna be processed

>>18623206
Scared money doesn't make money. So just get some AAPL puts and when this shit goes back to sub $100 have a beer on me.

>>18622062
You posted the dividend chart breaking down the weekly and monthly payouts. Has anything changed in the last couple of weeks?

gold is climbing back up

Nice bear market you have there, bears

>>18623185
SMA200 hourly at exactly 2800

>>18623188
shhhh
we're all making too much money atm
dont jinx it

>>18623218
what's gonna happen to bacon bros

>>18623190
>the sky is falling
For real this time guys! It's Y2k I mean 2008, I mean 2012 all over!

>>18623235
what r u in

>>18623120
>brrrr posting
>thinking that the value of oil is negative because the futures contracts traded for negative
You need to reassess your assumption that you’re qualified to “inform” others about finance and economics.

>>18623105
well my experience comes from working up and down the west coast and even a couple other states..

new into investing how likely is it that a ETF gets terminated? I cashed in 2k€ into WisdomTree WTI Crude Oil ETF and found out after, that they allready terminated the 3xlshort WTI OIL etf and another one a month ago. Please tell me guys.

>>18622312
tl;dr

>>18623246
wild herds of swine roam through the land, cleansing the usa of all jews and muslims, probably

>>18623218
>>18623246
Hogs still up over 6%, nothing makes sense

>>18623218
HAHAHA TIME TO EAT BEANS FOR THE REST OF TIME

>>18623086
Dude.. just get a mouse jiggler (google it) and spend all day in bed

>>18623267
>virus bad, stocks are in trouble

>>18623266
How can we invest in this? It sounds great.

>>18623250
gold and oil etfs

>>18623265
No oil etf is safe right now.

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>>18623249
I don't want to go over all of the real metrics and occurrences of stimulus we needed to get to this point but you're retarded if you think we're just bouncing back from this.
A W shaped recovery is being generous Its gonna look more like an L for awhile.

>>18623231
nasdaq punched through a while ago. will money just keep flowing into tech?

>>18623218
Curses

>>18622954
How is it even possible to lose on options? Please explain this to me. Unless you're doing it on purpose of course.

>>18623195
1920 Germany? Shitty economy too? But try it, i'm sure this time will work, like socialism.

>>18623276
The hogs that usually would be killed are now investing their hogbucks

>>18623218
Based piggies, getting another shot at life

i finally dropped all my bear positions, guys
you're welcome

>>18623331
retards have never heard of risk management and don't know what STOP LOSS means.

>>18623086
This is exactly my fucking day too lmao

>>18623129
>>18623165
Thank you, my good sirs
>>18623143
I work on my company’s monitoring team so I know that shit would get flagged within 2 hours of installation. Not sure about other companies, but we use this software called Nexthink that tracks executables, browsing history, and resource usage, among other things. It only reports when you connect to VPN, so as soon as I got back on VPN to do real work I would get fucked

>tfw did a ton of research and came to the conclusion oil price would go to shit.
>Buy $181,600 of TSLA puts expiring 4/24/2020 with my newfound knowledge
>tfw I turn out to be right
>tfw it doesn't matter and TSLA keeps fucking go up

Fuck the stock market I'm sick of this shit some fucking bullshit scam or some shit why do people keep buying this paper stock god fucking damnit

>>18622329
lowest hourly volume since 2/20

>>18622027

;_;

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>>18623331
Options are extremely volatile. It’s very easy to lose all your money on options if you’re a degenerate gambler, even if you know what you’re doing.

>>18623361
That's what you get for doubting weed meme man.

>>18622277
I bought today. Still have a chunk of cash but I couldn’t help myself

>>18623351
... how do you plan to use a stop loss on an option?
>>18623382
It's impossible to lose money on option except through bad winrate unless you're doing it on purpose desu senpai.

>>18623361
>oil price would go to shit
>shorts TSLA of all things
No it's not a scam you're just a retard

>>18623380
low quality thread with brainlets only.
High IQ people prefer informative OPs.

>>18623371
What does that mean?

>>18623361
>Oil market is collapsing, knows this
>Does not invest in oil puts
>Shorts an electric car company
Please explain to me this big brain strat

>>18623361
Why would tesla go down if oil goes down? Hello? ANON? ANON-CHAN HELLO ARE YOU ALRIGHT?

>>18623400
Sorry I meant in general.
You'd be surprised how many retards became day traders in the past few years.

>>18623331
It's impossible to lose on calls but losing on puts is easy.
>Entire economy is destroyed
>Rivers of oil nobody can use flow freely through the streets
>New York loading bodies onto refrigerated trucks
>Everyone is terrified
>Market goes up 2%, destroying your long term put.

>>18623400
What is a good strategy for options? I would like to learn more.

>>18623317
I'm nervous senpai, S&P is really cozy next to the 200 SMA

>>18623412
How?

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>>18623416
he was probably guessing that cheap oil = no interest in EVs
he has no idea that TSLA is less about EVs and more about a master plan of taking over the entire automobile and ridesharing markets at once

>>18623403
Why is he restarted

low oil price will destroy electric car no?

>>18623415
Anon shorted too early. That's his only fault.

>>18623185
And broken...

>>18623400
>Think TSLA is going up
>Buy a bunch of $700 calls expiring next week at 60.00 a share
>TSLA doesn’t go up
>All of those calls are worthless or worth way less than 60.00
Congrats you lost a bunch of money.

>>18623403
TSLA is the biggest scam ever and you know it. Imagine there were no greater retards to sell the stock in a few months more for, and instead all trading was stopped and you'd only be paid in dividends. You wouldn't get the money you invested back in the next 20 years, if at all. Tesla could be a good stock to buy but only because there are so many greater fools welling to pay even more for a company that will never be profitable because they believe in future technology even as oil is cheaper than it's ever been.

>>18623333
>shitty economy too?
Did you mean to imply that they had a good economy?

These are all examples of failed states with high inflation. I was asking for information from someone who had looked into this before, not someone who spent 30 seconds thinking about it before trotting out the same 3-4 examples of runaway inflation in failed states.

>>18623462
getting cocky there?

>>18623403
>>18623415
You're both retarded. How does gasoline being a dollar make electric cars attractive? Further, ALL automotive sales are down substantially. There is no reason for TSLA to pump. At all. None.

>>18623309
>>18623380
>>18623440
>>>/reddit/

>>18623446
No, because cheaper oil also means cheaper energy. Not only that, most people buying Teslas are buying them for the status, not the supposed cheaper mode of transit

>>18623038
I also bought uso on friday and only down like 15%...

>>18623446
Electric cars have almost no relation to cost savings right now (just compare the cost of an electric car to a used economy car). People buy them as status symbols, to show off how "green" or trendy they are, and because they came with government tax credits.

>>18623470
I know it's a scam. But biggest scam = retards will buy in for years before it truly falls off a cliff

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>>18623429
That's what I call 'doing it on purpose'.
>>18623427
Yeah, in general that's true. Nobody on /smg/ has ever heard of a stop loss and then they come crying with 90%+ losses.
>>18623433
There are metric fuckloads of good strategies. Start at
https://www.investopedia.com/trading/options-strategies/
remember to NEVER do naked options, understand the risk curves, and don't go into unlimited risk situations.

This is the best i could do on my phone quality wise while getting under 3 MB, hope you like it anons

>>18623504
I swear in my head I distinctly remember TSLA falling like 5% one day in maybe 2012 and the article saying it was because "cheaper gas prices." I guess just goes to show most anaylsts are talking out of their asses when they try to explain price movements of stocks.

>>18623488
Because energy prices will also go down retard. We use oil for electricity too.

>>18623482
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE 15 and 1HR CANDLE JESUS CHRIST.

>>18623531
>emember to NEVER do naked options,
Just for clarification, does this in practicallity mean never to use puts? I mean theorectically you could have a covered put but if you honestly thought a stock was overvalued wouldn't you be better off just dumping it?

>>18623466
Doing it on purpose, sure. That's like trading stocks without a stop loss, especially on margin (with a 10%+ margin rate to boot), tying your entire net worth into that one deal.

>>18623531
Thanks fren.

>>18623535
Whatcha blasting over there?

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>>18623535
Let RTX come down to like 55, then go all in.

>>18623564
>It’s impossible to lose money on an option
Why would you need a stop loss then? Also a stop loss means you lost money and you’re saving yourself from more losses. Just admit you’re retarded please. People use option trading for income and to hedge bets. People also use it for the crazy volatility to either make massive amounts of money or lose massive amounts of money.

>>18623606
Blasting the bottom of this market out

>>18623559
Puts can be covered by combining with a short, but you should never do a covered put anyway. Buying puts is fine, just don't write them unless as part of a more involved strategy that limits your losses.

>>18623531
I mean even without stop loses you can manage risk but if course some redditor isn't going to know how to do this.
People always parrot the "diversify your portfolio" meme, but how you diversify is as important as how you invest.

>>18623541
Electricity prices are almost entirely tied to natural gas, which has nothing to do with foreign oil. Plus even if gas and electricity were free, electric cars just cost more. Like a lot more. EVs rely on their fuel being 1/3rd the cost of ICE cars to be cost effective over their whole lifetime. Even then, the break even point is in the 100k miles range. Dollar gas destroys that even if electricity falls to 4 cents per kWh, which is wouldn't do anyway because power station capital costs and labor are a thing. The cost of maintaining electrical infrastructure remains the same as well (usually 4-6 cents per kWh alone).

Tyson is closing its pork plant. People will be panic shopping the bacon soon... How's the TP & PT shortage going? Oh that's right, it's still happening! We're how many months into this shit again? 3,almost 4?

>>18623693
this. I'd be shorting tsla but it's not just a car company. With how dogmatic people are either for or against it and it's business model being kinda all over the place I won't touch tsla at all.
Funny to watch people seethe when you mention it though.

>>18623643
Oof, cringe anon. Ever tried googling terms you clearly don't understand instead of showing everyone how stupid you are?

>>18623627
KYS friend

>>18623743
You’re the one saying you can’t lose money on options when people have lost their entire life savings or even more playing options.

>>18623627
there is a massive influx of autism today here

>>18623777
idiots lose money all the time.
You weren't one of them were you?

>>18623777
Anon, shame on you for wasting these trips.
Let me help you out regardless:
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=option+(trading)
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=stop+loss

>>18623813
are you really being this autistic about him not calling it a stop limit? or are you unaware that options can expire worthless?

>>18622910
>NIGGERNIGGERNIGGENIGGERNIGGER AAAAAAAAAAA
>why is my dick hard wtf??

>>18623835
I'm... wow. I thought that guys was retarded but wow anon, I hope he thanks you for taking the prize.

>>18623804
I’ve lost money on options before yes, because options are not guaranteed income. However in general I make money of options.
>>18623813
You’re a literal retard my friend.

>>18623863
Can you be helped?

>>18623309
Eat dick

Nigger OP didnt link the new thread again
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>>18623867
I look forward to your "haha I was merely pretending to be retarded" post

>>18623564
>stop loss
Shit don't work when we gap up or down 2% at random every day. That making buying anything but a pattern trading option suicidal.

>>18623627
Kys yourself pls

>>18623897
Stop losses work just fine if you're not holding pharma/biomemes overnight. You should be setting a stoploss if you daytrade anyway, and gap up/down so high they bypass your stoploss means you're either in a clown market like right now, or doing something really wrong (again, on purpose). Otherwise, explain to me how you manage to lose 90% of your balance overnight. Show me that kind of overnight on a non-meme non-pennystock company.
It's true, of course, that you need to adapt your trading strategy based on market conditions, but if a 2% swing wipes you out, you're doing it completely wrong.

>>18624031
The penny stock known as SPY, where overnight movement has been greater than normal hours movement.
2% doesn't wipe you out, but it can easily lose you a lot of money.

>>18624103
It shouldn't. For example, are you putting your entire balance in each trade? If yes, you have much bigger problems than gaps. If not, even if spy went to 0 tomorrow, you should still have a good chunk of money left (and since spy going to 0 means much larger problems than your bank account, you'll be fine). This is beyond just setting your stop according to your acceptable risk level. As mentioned before in the thread by another anon, there are other ways to protect against such risks, from married puts to simply going long on tankers and oil simultaneously.