/biz/ - Business & Finance

RTX good stock
Oil a shitcoin

>all the gold and silver FUD going on /biz/ right now

>>18547129
Is this the autist janny who posts videos critiquing the boards he is reaponsible for?

How retarded am I for planning to go all in on RTX? (long - 5k)

Also looking at:
Teekay
Kratos
XOM

Movie night tonight. What's everyone watching?

>>18547203
Get at least LMT if you want defense. AVAV does smaller drones for troops.

>>18547182
How is oil a shitcoin? Seems like a pretty solid investment right now or when it dips more

Buying ZZZ is basically free money, right?

>>18547228
>>18547203
RTX, LMT, KTOS, GD and NOC are all good defense plays, but I think RTX has the best value right now. Buy all of them if you want to diversify your blood money.

>>18547226
Black 47

>>18547246
Oil is for boomers. Enjoy watching your investment chronically underperform until one day it just disappears

I dunno boys these financials and a nearly 7% dividend yield are calling to me

Even if the stock never rises again that's a good deal as a dividend stock

Next week will boom. With lockdowns ending in some states, we're going to have so much optimism it'll be insane to try to contain it. SPY 300 almost certain.

Just saw a video of a guy living in a small shack in the mountains for years.

I need to hitchhike away soon and it would be nice to one day get a trailer somewhere in the middle of nowhere and do that. I am a leper and social paraiah so this is my life. Wish I saved up money though or something

>Turns out a depression fucks everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72ObylwvLoU

>>18547362
Shut the fuck up

>>18547166
Bro where tf did you get this picture of my portfolio???

Can we just hivemind and fuck over WSB or something with a pump and dump? I sure as shit don't want to earn my monies. Olden 4chan v. NYSE? We could call for /b/lackup.

Would anybody here be willing to be interested in opening an account with Webull using my invite code so you can claim 2 stocks worth from $12 to $200?
If so l would really appreciate it.

https://act.webull.com/i/2GygSQPyqm1z/ma6/

>>18547408
I just googled "worst portfolio in history" and this came out sorry bro didn't know it was yours

Fuck all those who oppose SOXL

>>18547246
Small cap oil and drillers + supporting industries (equipment) are going to get consolidated into something like HAL and APC. Pushing into XOM and OXY seems like a bad play, and tankers are priced in by now. Oil is up on bailouts, expect flatline for 1y+.

Can someone tell me what the actual value to society it is to keep the markets propped up like this? Why is it intrinsically good to do so?

Everyone seems to think that printing money HAS to be bad for economy, as if there is some ratio of Money Printed : Inflation Increased. But what if there is a certain rate of printing money where the benefit of the printed money is optimal and the inflation goes up minimally? For example:

P = Printing money rate
I = Inflation incurred

So say it is generally excepted that Px = Ix. That is the general ratio. However, what if I told you there is a certain rate of money printing that will make this ratio be P(2x) = I(1.2x) So yeah, we can print money at 2x the rate but inflation will only increase 1.2x. This is speculation, guessing, trying to understand what is the entire fucking economy of a country/of the world, but you can't fit this into an equation or predict any of this. The fact is here is no way Px = 1x. My argument is that you can always print money so fucking fast, blazingly fast, that inflation will have a hard time catching up. Print money to FUCKING INFINITY, MAKE THE MONEY PRINTING OUTRUN INFLATION. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

This is the first step to making Heaven on Earth.

>>18547448
>>18547448
>>18547448

hoping to see cannabis stock bleed this week.

also, I have 3000 to invest, I just had someone pay me back money I let them borrow, what should I invest in?

>>18547485
You get enough money to live without working during the pandemic. Win-win for everyone.

>>18547433
>be willing to be interested

Also, you know posting referral links is against the rules, don't you, kid? Heh. You're dead meat.

>>18547503
Other than your basic thesis being wrong, the idea that you can outprint legitimate inflation is Weimar-tier

>>18547485

I don't think it's objectively "good". You're rescuing a lot of businesses that didn't do their due diligence in preparing for this crisis. It's easier for them to not go bankrupt when their stock is propped up.

>>18547522
US Currency has out printed the inflation.

>>18547485
401k's and retirees are still invested in equities. Some people saw pretty substantial decrements to their retirement plans. Pensions are likewise hurting. But the turmoil and inflationary measures used in the monetary policies to counteract the continued downfall are arbitrary and will have ripple effects deep into the future. If they'd just let the deleveraging happen it would streamline the economy. That may well be what's happening though, if you attend to the YTD map, there's only a small number of companies that have a consolidated sum of wealth accumulating in their equities. The downside though, is when a supermajor hedge decides to take their wins after all this drum-up.

AMZN, TSLA, AMD, NVDA, MSFT, WMT, NFLX have all recovered from the drop and then some. They're actually towing major indexes and ETFs almost by their lonesome, with a handful of biomed companies proposed to shelf a magical curative. I believe this is the "new paradigm" scheme.

>good morning anon

Fuck tripfags.

>>18547568
>tfw you will never fuck the stupid out of AOC and make her a subservient cute housewife

>>18547568

Those are quintessential crazy eyes. I wonder which personality I'm getting today.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/2-Stocks-To-Consider-As-Oil-Nears-15.html

Any member of that site who can copy the article?

First stock is Schlumberger, which I already own, what's the other one?

If you're day trading and you set your stop loss so that you can only lose $100, why not instead just buy $100 worth of call options?
In the first case, if your stop is hit your $100 is gone *poof* but in the case with the option, you still can only lose $100 but no matter how low the price goes in the interim, there's still the chance that it'll come back and you can exit at a profit.
I see no disadvantage using the option here. Either way you can lose max $100 but with the option you have until expiration before it's a total loss whereas just trading shares and setting stops, once the stop hits there's no coming back. What am I missing?

>>18547485
We must keep the burden of labor upon the filthy millenials. They will bankroll the boomer and the welfare leech a like. Someone has to pay for Raqwasha's 8 kids and someone needs to provide free income to Jaun. The purpose of government is to punish millennials. We must grind this generation into worm people to serve China.

How do I be bullish on defaulted student loans and landlords getting cucked?

>>18547503
The action occurring right now serves only a single purpose, and that is to obfuscate the devaluation of equities and their returns to investors. If you look back into the 80's stock and normalize gains from perfect bottom you're still net negative, only managing to mitigate a fraction of the inflationary action. If you really want a payout you have to actively play the market, follow trends and take profit over and over again while re-investing at each measure. Effectively your win rate has to be off the fucking charts, you have to outperform the SAP by a full SD.

>>18547428
Haha, yeah. Wouldn't it be funny if we all bought, say $10,000 or so of Nova LifeStyle, Inc. stock (NVFY)? I bet even that would really move the needle on this one. Then when the price starts moving up, we can post some "DD" on wsb about the company's "fundamentals" (look at that low PE ratio!), and about how the market is finally recognizing it. Then after we have our thread up for enough time for others to buy in, boom! We all sell our shares at once before they know what happened. What a lark that would be!

>>18547668
I'm in for 40k

>>18547614

>>18547362
My plan B if this city shit doesn't work out is to live inna woods and make a youtube series out of me building a cabin inna woods. I'm sure it'll be tough but my struggles will ad drama to the series. I will trade options theta gang style. Without the cost of rent, I think it would be pretty easy to have enough money to just iron condor my living expenses.

Biggest worry is getting raided or murdered by junkies, or shot by cops who think I am a junkie.

ONLINE POKER IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW, BUY TSGI

>>18547228
LMT or GD? Lmt seems better very long term but looks like gd has further to come back

You anons may find these videos interesting.

>Banks are only giving government loans to mega corporations, everyone else is fucked
>Banks restrict loans only to customers with existing loans
>Small businesses aren't getting any support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP4rodsK41E
Is youre a small business that has no debt, you are basically screwed. Normally profitable and sustainable businesses will be the first to bankrupt despite their responsible financials. Companies with massive debt are favored and get all the money, yet will fail anyway. Short the Russel?

>China is caught lying, again
>Deporting ALL Africans, period (based?)
>Forefingers being rounded up and "quarantined"
>Forced to pay for their quarantine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsnHUrpD__E
China strong! Fully recovered! China rule the world!

>China is going to win because companies demand profits!
>China is the only good manufacturer because China says so!
>No workers rights! CCP keeps people poor for slave labor!
>YUAN will take over USD!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b07eafPe7pY
Epic Chinese propaganda! There is no other place in the entire world that manufacturing could take place, there is only China.


BONUS RUDY WISDOM
>Cuises? Fucked
>Oil? Super fucked.
>REITs? Mega fucked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_-U9jmvOb4
Required viewing, honestly.

>>18547129
Hey stop posting my pictures thanks

Up or down on Monday bros?

>>18547203
RTX really isn't as great as people are playing it up to be, but its your money not mine so idgaf.

>>18547835
gonna continue slowly up this week. probably end week with +4-7% or some shit.

>>18547528
Either I'm retarded or this is retarded. Due diligence on a surprise pandemic? And are you implying rescuing the businesses isn't beneficial?

>>18547485
In my opinion because it ultimately saves lives, if you count that as intrinsically good.

>>18547778
Why don't you read their financial statements and decide for yourself?

>>18547858
It's gonna crab this whole week.

Does anyone know if you can buy link on the fidelity app? I searched for it but I can’t find it

>>18547864

DD as in a lot of these idiot companies spent every last cent on buybacks and racking up more debt rather than having a rainy day fund. It's pathetic that they were facing bankruptcy after 2 weeks of cut business. They're getting saved from poor business practice, which means they're only going to continue it after, and probably at a worse clip.

>>18547598
well, my niggers?

http://archive.vn/RyglY

Thoughts?

>>18547598
you can try that, and then report back to us when the giant negative theta number on your screen starts inducing schizo seizures and you conclude all markets are rigged jew shitfests (which they are)

>>18547872
>It's pathetic that they were facing bankruptcy after 2 weeks of cut business.
I agree with everything you said, but I just thought that was expected of massive companies with thousands of employees and such. Also I think what you're saying is kind of counter to capitalism, only in that we don't want companies hoarding cash right?

>>18547909

It's not counter at all. They do this because they think the Fed is their ace in the hole and will bail them out, which is the aspect that is counter-capitalism. "Too big to fail" will continue to become the cancer of the economy. Bad companies have to fail for average and good companies to know how to behave.

At some point if you keep bailing out and propping everyone up you get an entire economy of shit zombie companies dragging your productivity down and putting your entire banking system at risk.

>>18547905
>you can try that, and then report back to us when the giant negative theta number on your screen starts inducing schizo seizures and you conclude all markets are rigged jew shitfests (which they are)
Yeah theta's a bitch but if I had bought spot I would have been stopped out anyway so even dealing with theta I at least have a chance which is better than total loss right?
The issue I've had with day trading in the past is my entries are decent but a lot of times the price will move past my stop just to immediately rebound. This is what I'm trying to overcome using options. Also seeing as the kind of trades I'm doing should be over in matter of minutes theta won't really be an issue. I just want to stop the problem of losing my money in the first 10 seconds with a scam wick down.

>>18547593
>Schlumberger,
how long you owned it

>>18547937
if you are getting stopped out in 10 sec on literally any trade then you are def trading too big for your leverage % trailing stop

anyone have an edit of blonde AOC?

>>18547956
Thanks for the input. I'll consider this. I'm going to test the waters with the options thing and I'll think about adjusting leverage too. Lately volatility has been nuts and I've been trading futures on top of that where you can lose a ton of money with the quickness hence the tight stops

>>18547972
are you doing /es? there is also 1/10 /MES

>>18547909
most companies get rebuked by the shareholders for hoarding cash, it is either pay it to them in dividends or expand the business through acquisitions, R&D etc.

>>18547980
>/ES
Yep and it's a monster. I usually pull in between 500 and 1k a day but the losses are brutal when they come. Maybe I should practice on /MES. I just hate getting fucking stopped out it's soul crushing. Like I take it personally and it fucks my whole day up. Decisions decisions. You trade futs?

>China owns W.H.O.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c07MnRmJPcI

companies don't need a stockpile of cash, the problem is the absurd amounts of debt they were drowning in at the peak of a 10 year long bull market, even the federal reserve pointed out this

pain post

so what do you fags think will happen this coming week, given the quarterly reports are gonna drop?

>>18548001
im only short options as opening trades, then use /MES to ballpark hedge deltas

you use a lot of emotional language in every post, just fyi if you feel anything, thats your body's way of telling you your size is too big (on wins OR losses)

step 1 is not feeling anything in markets
step 2 not feeling anything in real life anymore

Should I short the automobile industry? There's no way people buy new cars or paying the financing. Right?

>>18548015
order cat's claw from postmates like I told you, assess toe damage and sterilize if it's cut, try n set the bone then wrap tightly with bandages or clean cloth, you'll get well soon

>>18548032
This is good stuff. Thanks anon, I won't forget it

>>18548059
hang in there boo, i lose 1/3 of my net worth in 15 min once...

>>18547935
This makes sense.

>>18547990
This is what I meant, it didn't seem right for the right move to be companies hoarding cash.

>>18548033
You're not accounting the markets pricing those expectations in already (including the possibility of bailouts)

zombie bull market

we should declare war on china

Bonds are literally the digital equivalent of putting money in a mattress. Jerome has killed them for decades.

>>18547362
>Just saw a video of a guy living in a small shack in the mountains for years.
Link

>>18548079
Good point. What's even the point to have a pandemic.

>>18548089
>Imagine paying the government so you can own a bond

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZPT3zpzh0A&feature=youtu.be&t=43
I forgive China for the coronavirus

>>18548165
context?

>>18547589
Nah. Those are not the crazy eyes. My dick KNOWS the crazy eyes.
>>18547568
God damn though would I like to reach under that shirt every day and give those milkers a good morning honking.

>>18548050
The fuck? He couldn’t punch so he started kicking or what?

>>18548196
I think he hit it on something walking to the bathroom to puke, he's having a hard night ;_;
Second time ratty's injured his toe during movie night too! There was the needle incident last summer

>>18547889
I think the website generates a fucking screenshot for you, if you couldn’t post that, you could’ve just posted the headline.

I love the archive link but goddamn you just expect me to trust you that this isn’t some sort of jumpscare rickroll gore?

>>18547952
few weeks, bought at around 13-14

this news isn't really surprising

>>18547824
>Banks are only giving government loans to mega corporations, everyone else is fucked
>Banks restrict loans only to customers with existing loans
>Small businesses aren't getting any support
IWM puts for August or September.

>>18548217
I remember that... I may need to spend less time here.

Probably should spend more time reading that book Ms. Guropenis posted. Or that book about trading in a bear market. Or combing through Ciollio’s old videos.

>>18548015
Get well soon ~

>>18547889
>http://archive.vn/RyglY
>80% dive
the feds have too much ammo for that to happen

>>18547835
Pumps at open, dumps at close.

>>18548089
This just means that, in an astonishing twist of fate that has shocked investors, their treasuries became assets for capital gains while stocks became assets for yield.

Unless you reached for yield and picked value traps.

>>18547566
Makes sense. The S&P500 is obviously being propped up by tech companies. Most of the other companies have posted large loses.
Small cap will be the real signifier of economic health in the coming months.

>>18548258
You think the fed can just print 4 trillion without consequences? They are already running out of things they can buy. If they start buying stocks, its over regardless, just sell our worthless shares to the government!

>>18547568
she's gonna be a good mommy

>>18548250
do you understand IWM are all small cap publicly traded stocks- ~300mm - 2bil market cap..
"small businesses" are fucking corner stores

>>18548311
yes, now someone edit this convo into the virgin vs chat meme

>>18548311
They can buy my blown engine car for 400k ... I wouldn’t mind

2000 DOLLARS A MONTH

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

starting to get cold feet about the options orders i put in for monday: 294 call for friday and 278 put for 2 weeks out. am I retarded?

>>18548118
I'm having second thoughts myself.

>>18548402
What thoughts are you having...

>>18548343
can't short companies that aren't publicly traded though

>>18547485
keeping the markets up is a side effect, the point is keeping companies afloat while the goverment forces everything to shutdown

>>18547566
Most retirement plans are exposed to bonds and reallocate quarterly, believed to have been partially responsible for the insane rally before the fed and treasury stepped up to the plate.

Those companies, big tech and the the only three retailers that matter, all benefit from this move. People are using MORE technology than ever, more data, more devices etc, and all the competition is going broke.

You know who benefits from every corner store vanishing?
Amazon, Costco, Walmart

>>18548422
>>18547566
NOW, here's one that boggles the mind:
Eli Lilly.

LLY has been pretty much untouched by this whole thing. Fucking why? If diabetes patients are going to die in large numbers from WuFlu, that should hurt their drug sales, right?

>>18547824
>50 minute video from the magic nerd
I need a QRD before I commit that kind of time

>>18548434
>>18547824
>video from March 20th
>a month ago
>before the rebalance bounce
>before the major fed intervention
I don't know that this is going to be worth a damn...

>Buy weekly on Friday
>Hold through weekend
>Loses 30% of its value Monday morning

Shan't be holding short term weeklies through the weekend anymore.

>>18548258
probably real and i was planning to completely exit out around end of this month or early may when i see the signs (got $210k in market) and put up some amount in short positions

>>18548311
>If they start buying stocks
>if they start
lmao. they have already been doing this for the past months.

>>18548434
>>18548456
Its extremely good. He explains what happens to these companies during rough times. Rudy is an ex-fund advisor.This is top tier knowledge from an ex-insider. He did one about bonds and its also amazing.
>muh v recovery
Ok dude, stop drinking the kool aid

>>18548493
>muh v recovery
???

>He did one about bonds and its also amazing
yeah I watched the bond one

Stock market newbie here...

I'm wanting to put $3500 into long term drip and was thinking VTI, SPHD, and Intel.

I was thinking of putting in stop loss orders in case we haven't hit the bottom, and keep increasing them if things go up.

Am I making a horrible mistake or is this a sound investment?

I actually have a deeper plan but this is the point where I'm actually ready to DO something...

It really was a nothingnurger after all. Monday will be green, confirmed.

Redpill me on why data center REITs are valued so highly? The biggest ones are trading at p/e ratios of 200+

>>18548529
earnings this week. sea of red coming baby

>>18548546
priced

>>18548546
People already expect it to be bad. It will go up because it's not as bad as people thought

>>18548546
shut the fuck up bobo and go back into your cagie.

>>18548550
>>18548551
yeh I actually think this as well.

>>18548546
Ever heard of "sell the news", retard?

>>18548550
>>18548561
>Its still priced in aver a 60% recovery

>>18548541
REIT earnings/losses will be completely dominated by depreciation, so they don't necessarily mean much. People instead often look at (A)FFO when comparing REITs.

>>18548575
Kill yourself, brain damaged bobo

>ahhhhhh that SECOND coffee of the morning

Feels so good man. Where my /coffeesquad/ at

>>18548326
bullshit. she'd be the type to shoot her son up with hormones for freak cred.

>another day before the market opens

Last red day tomorrow then it's all up

>>18548583
>every economic indicator is screaming bloody murder
>the government is so desperate they are considering buying companies and negative interest rates
>greatest unemployment in history
>greatest debt crisis in history
STOCKS
ONLY
GO
UP

>>18548634
stock market can't go down, president trump enacted an executive order called stocks go up

>>18548635
They literally only go up any more. They cannot afford to let stocks go down, if they stop propping it up for even a single second the whole thing collapses.

>>18547485
Trump is getting re elected.

>>18548635
>STOCKS
>ONLY
>GO
>UP
Yes.

>>18548580
thanks bro, didn't know about using FFO

Woah

>>18548641
But... my last day to go in again...

Who here an /etfCHAD/?

>>18548689
Yep. This is why 'lol oil is going to zero' zoomer doomers are very very wrong. I expect to see more of these posts as oil works it's way towards $10 before any country/coalition of countries does anything drastic to slap some duct tape on that price situation.

>>18548689
>cars
we gon be in trouble

>>18548689
>Radioactive chemicals
lol
>Rough wood
ok now they're just messing around

>>18548745
cars is better than exporting bait like greenland

>>18548740
>>18548745
>oil will never recover
Wait until quarantine ends

>>18548689
non 3rd world shithole countries tend to be service economies so primary exports becoming worthless isn't as crippling as you would think

>>18548745
Countries will lift quarantine measures faster than you might think. Automotive industry will have a nice recovery pump (not Ford lol) later this year or early next.

>>18548546
>>18548551
Permabulls are the worst ones of all. How can something be priced in, when S&P500 is only 15% below ATH? Why would big boys delay their earnings?

>>18548689
>No date
wow it's shit

>Cambodia's largest export?
>Wool Sweaters
cute!

>>18548740
that doesn't matter
saud will take the boot off our throat once the frackers go bankrupt. Then oil will recover a bit, even more when economic activity resumes in some form.

>>18548745
>cars
yeah mexico, japan, and the UK gonna be in trouble a bit

>>18548774
Bruhs I really dont know how to stand on my head

>>18548788
>Why would big boys delay their earnings?
Because the entire finance department is working from home and having IT issues? Not everything is some conspiracy... If they were going to all lie on their earnings then they wouldn't need to delay.

>>18548683
Fucking Clide
ASL on tonight brother

>>18548740
>oil is going to zero
Stop being obtuse. The price of oil isnt going to be zero, but the stock of oil companies certainly fucking is.

>>18548788
>delay = bad earnings
???
how are you jumping that logic? not every country is china

>>18548815
>saud will take the boot off our throat once the frackers go bankrupt.
I don't know whats going to happen but I'm pretty sure it will wind up being a lot more messy and complicated than that. No way it goes with shale smoothly dying and Saudis carry on back to normal, no harm no foul no worries.

>>18548838
Finance department has issue while working from home? SAP / Oracle use for Controlling and Accounting don't work for the big boys? Dear god you are retarded, it is all about timing. Why would you want to release disaster earnings in a envirenmont of fear. Wait it out and time it with bullfag hope like you have right now.

This is not a conspiracy, this is standard stock corporation logic.

>>18548776
>recovery pump
Im so sick of this delusional hope. We "recovered" 60% on literal fake money and hopium. Shit is so beyond fucked, everyone saying things are fine, v recovery, back to work are fucking lying to your face.

>>18548892
>The price of oil isnt going to be zero
Anons have unironically and specifically said exactly that a number of times in a number of threads since the troubles began.

>>18548917
Except a few companies, bad earnings are consequential for what happened. Are you really that dump?

Haven't you checked out a single bank earnings presentation of Q1?

>>18548946
>>delay = bad earnings
please respond, I showed you my question

>oil memers
CONTANGO

>>18548926
could happen. there is nowhere left to put the money. bonds are fucked, aint getting no bank interest, aint increasing in value sitting under a mattress. so stonks it is

I have a huge position in MRO. I got it when the stock was trading at $3.80 a share.


I'm getting skittish about it should I just dump it and find something else?

LOOK!
The LAST thing I want to do is invest in Poland during this crisis! Just fuck off already!

>>18548032
Amazing advice, I've been getting more consistent the less I put in. Staggering your buy-in can help a lot, too.

is a US civil war bullish or bearish?

>>18547503
quantity theory of money already exists bro

>>18549014
Thats what happens in a depression, everyone get fucked.

>>18547869
TQQQ 70C better print or i'm gonna reee

>>18549034
Bullish as fuck

>2021
>Companies start implementing Work From Home (WFH) permanently see how successful it was
>Everyone gets a corporate Occulus Rift by FaceBook
>Now you can WFH but still be in your open-concept office virtually, hear, mingle with your colleagues and look at their screens!
>Timers are set to alert your bosses or managers when you remove your headset for more than x minutes, may be turned off during lunch hours.
>Some companies require dining in together so you can go to the virtual restaurant during lunch hours or go to the virtual pub after working hours.

Time to short commercial REITs

>>18548541
they are the bedrock of the SaaS products the blue chips offer. kinda like being the one selling shovels during a gold rush

>>18549105
time to fucking kms

>>18549118
not before I do

>>18549105
>boomers swoop in and turn the office space into more shitty apartments
Boomer landlords cannot be stopped

>>18548926
>t. bottom miss

>>18548032
>fyi if you feel anything, thats your body's way of telling you your size is too big (on wins OR losses)
True.

>>18549105
I miss Second Life.

>>18549167
kek

>>18548926
bruhz, just buy companys you know are safe long run "recession proof" when times are uncertain. - long term you cant lose, they may go down in the market crash with everything else but who cares really? something like microsoft comes to mind that shit sticking around you dont need MAX GAINS on trying to time the bottom for some shitty company that may or may not go bankrupt

>>18547835
Don't know. Index uptrend intact. No questionable spikes in sell volume so far. I expected something like that around Wed/Thurs last week but it no habben.

If you don't invest in Africa, the middle east and Asia (Australia) you are racist.

>>18548918
the US has never stood up to the saudis. In retaliation for killing 3000 in the US and majorly fucking our shit up (and many more got fucking cancer and shit) we killed one dude after we let him get really old and have a bunch of more kids and shit.

I think there might be something to the whole "petrodollar" thing. If relations soured and they started purchasing less of our military hardware and more of russia's weaponry... if they started pricing oil in any other currency... that seems like it could really like REALLY disrupt the US empire and send it reeling.

>>18549231
how do i invest in abos? petrol sniffing?

>>18548918
Saudis have gotten away with more and we need the petrodollar more now than ever because of the money printing
The saudis have had decades to understand all they can get away with and why. Its literally their only major export and they'd be a shithole like most of the middle east without it.
At most we'll get SO angry at the Saudis that we will invade Venezuela. Literally expect that to start being pushed when the quarantines start being lifted.

>>18547824
>China is caught lying, again
>Deporting ALL Africans, period (based?)
>Forefingers being rounded up and "quarantined"
>Forced to pay for their quarantine
Damn. China just can't help digging their hole deeper and deeper. Like hey the great firewall isn't 100%. Information comes out no matter how hard you try to stop it.

>>18549333
what do you mean by 'forefingers'?

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
>2nd cheapest platform for Europeans, they announced an increase of their commission fees. Very quick registration process. But beware if they go bankrupt you may lose your cash balance they are not insured like other brokers. It seems they have €20k protection.

What is the number 1?

Also is interactive brokers good for europoors?

Girls have vaginas

based gahoole

>>18549377
>>18549333
>>18547824
Why Doesn't China Use The Coronavirus As An Excuse To Dispose Of The Uighurs?

Israeli market +3.5%

I bought 500 shares of uco when it was at 1.90 to get my dad to stop recommending it to me like it's manna from heaven, that's in addition to the 400 shares he had bought around 6 years ago and just held (lol!?). Im wondering is it better to just bail now or when it gets close to breaking even or should I just let my 1k ride to the bottom so conversations with him doesnt get awkward if this shitty meme boomer stock moons for some inexplicable reason. Im pretty damn worried how much he has in his retirement account if this is the kind of investing he does... ive already given him like 30k and i dont really care if he pays it back but Id like to know he's not just burning it in meme stocks.

>>18549521
I imagine their prisons are empty

>>18549607
Google beta slippage
In short, leveraged ETFs lose much of their "discount" during times like this because of high volatility (swings). They are best purchased on consistent uptrends (bull) or downtrends (bear). You should not hold them for long periods of time otherwise. It will almost always be better to be fashionably late than to try to time the bottom, moreso for leveraged ETFs.

>>18549469
IG is the big one all the big boys appear to use for trading with USA markets with various instruments.

>>18549663
Yeah I knew a little about beta slippage which is why I thought it was so crazy he's been holding their shares for 6 years, I was just wondering if anybody saw even a remote possibility of this thing skyrocketing so I can dump for at least a small gain to make me feel a little bit better about wasting 1k since I dont see this stock going anywhere but the shitter, I dont think the reverse split coming in a couple days is gonna exactly help either, Ill probably just write off that 1k as a loss maybe I can even talk him into getting rid of his too though for a significant loss, some money back is better than none i suppose.

>>18548383
how anon?

>>18549763
he bought kneepads when they were cheap and rest is history

Please help regarding Raytheon:

Do I buy RTX or RTN??

>>18547129
How to not be bald frens :(

>>18549469
make you way to 20/25k then open an account at IB

>>18549607
>ive already given him like 30k and i dont really care if he pays it back but Id like to know he's not just burning it in meme stocks.
It really sounds like he is burning it on meme stocks tho

>>18549889
nothing you can do. lift weights and go for the vin diesel look, its your only chance IF your appearance matters to you.

>>18549851
Rtx should be the only one
Rtn was the old one

>>18549912
see pic related

so the bottom was 23th of march? god i missed it lmao

>>18549928
Im indian it's over
It started 3months ago and I'm just 22

>>18549952
me too and so did lots of others, dont worry fren lots of opportunities ahead.

>>18549956
even if you dont have the same skin color, i bald headed macho look is still the best move me thinks. i stick to lifting weights

>>18549851
There is only Rtx, the merger of utc and rtn is completed. So please leave it, you lack most basic info on stocks you intend to buy

Best option to short S&P 500 for a massive shitstorm in six to nine months?

>>18549988
Exit out into mostly cash

>>18549851
dont buy RTX

>>18549982

Why no frens?
But seriously, why is RTN still listed then?

>>18550048
Because you touch yourself at night.


Also because people are going to want to look at historical data. Unless the ticker is needed again it will be left out there so that people can see past performance.

/smg/ where can i watch Chasing Madoff online for free? and no i don't want to download anything

>>18550048
I just checked, it's not listed on Robin Hood.

it's listed on sink or swim but you wouldn't be able to fill an order, it's more just for data reference.

>>18550101
a jew involved in major financial fraud. WOW how could that happen :^)

too crazy to go all in on amzn before their earnings?

OH NO NO NO
BULLBROS
WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>18550216
Quick how what why

>>18548005
I like how retarded migapedes have not been paying attention to what the WHO actually did. It covered up the pandemic, just like Trump tried to do, in order to save the economy.

>tfw Penis is the symbol of my deposit, my entire wealth, my equity.
>tfw Balls are the symbol of the margin, the verge, the maximum, the absolute ZERO possibility of investing even more.
>tfw Cunny is the symbol of the stock market, my destination, and bright wealthy future that's yet to come.

yes /biz/ Penis is going Balls deep into Cunny when the futures are open

Anyone here have an experience with eToro as their broker?

>>18550188
>buying the top
sasuga /smg/

>>18550147
faggot nigger i don't need a thesis just give me the link so i can eat my doritos while watching a movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b07eafPe7pY
imagine

>>18550306
what about tesla

>>18550327
USA will beat China eventually

>tfw need to masturbate for 10 more hours before the futures open

CUM ON OPEN ALREADY

Crypto is moving. I have a good feeling about all markets next week.

>>18550138
Rtx sp is also quite high imo. In the merger one Rtn share was converted to 2,334 rtx shares. Means momentary rtx sp $66 x 2,334 is like rtn would be at 154. not really cheap for receiving commercial airline exposure in the merger from utc. However i still intend to buy in the next months. The company has great potential to become a defense giant.

Ok /smg/ so it was absolutely bonkers to invest using x20 leverage with volatility of the market on such extreme levels.

I decided to lower the leverage to x19

>>18550337
How though?

>>18550372
Proud of you anon

>>18547824
>wake up this morning
>see this
>pour myself a cup of coffee

im ready.

>>18550372
get out you low risk fag

>>18550372
>Leverage

That’s Jew talk for borrowing money isn’t it? Anyway, why not just buy actual stock? You can’t lose buying and holding.

If I’m going to gamble, I’m headed to Vegas with 20k in cash and headed to the blackjack pit.

>>18550397
D-do you suppose s-she ss-she would make me c-cup of coffee??

>>18547293
>dividends are always a given and never gets cuts

>>18550372
where can you trade stocks with 20x leverage?

>>18550460
certificates

>>18550460
CFDs

t-minus 2 hours boys lets do this

>>18550472
>>18550460
if i'm correct the fees are way to high for a europoor like me to trade CFDs but it suits my trading style i'd gues i have to start with 5k minimum

Just saw a video of a guy living in a small shack in the mountains for years.

I need to hitchhike away soon and it would be nice to one day get a trailer somewhere in the middle of nowhere and do that. I am a leper and social paraiah so this is my life. Wish I saved up money though or something

>>18550587
get some dapsone, rifampicin and clofazimine for that leprosy, son.

>>18550587
how would you release your daily 30 ml dose of cum if you were in the middle of nowhere?

>leper
dude what?

>>18550551
they're 3,90 per trade for me, that however may be my brokers discount

>>18547824
This is the most valuable post in the thread, thanks a lot!

>>18547129
The more I read about TA, the more it seems like there's 30 false signals for 1 good signal. How do you guys do it bros... is this really the *edge*

I... I shorted the bottom, didn't I?

>>18549262
This is correct analysis. Though the Saudis have a weak military and could be droned out of existence in an instant due to their geographical size.

The US is overextended and is about to crumble before our eyes.

>>18550714
>The US is overextended and is about to crumble before our eyes.
I've been hearing this for the last 15 years

>>18547129
The hidden /biz/ discord server is discord gg CpqQw7b

It has to stay hidden or discord will shut it down.
As far as discord knows it's Wayne Lambright's official campaign discord.
sjs

>>18549262
lol imagine just figuring this out
you know what countries have or have threatened to go off the Petro-dollar? go look it up and look up US insurgencies in those countries. the military industrial complex is merely the police for this business.

>>18550725
And the average time to be the imperium is 100y. Time is running out, but history never repeats...right?

>>18547129
How's everyone's YTD 401?

Someone tell me what they think about BX.

>buy SPY calls Monday
>sell at EOD pump

Literally free money

>>18549952
I've lost about 80-90% due to retarded shorts

>>18550913
Feeling like switching to calls on Monday

>>18550913
>>18550922
So stop using options trading you fucking idiot

Tell me the absolute worst option play for next week and I’ll make it

>>18550996

>>18548493
Link to the bonds one pls

>>18548493
>>muh v recovery

What other shape do you expect?

>>18551073
Zoom in to a two month period like the current "v" shape and try again

>>18551012
>fag flag

deserves his losses

>>18551073
√ shaped recovery, new ATHs soon

>>18551086
I understand we're going to crab for a while but it depends what you're doing. I'm buying to hold and then dump once new highs are established in within a year or two, if not because of economic growth then because of inflation.

>>18551106
I believe this but "soon" is relative I guess.

>>18551112
a shit comparison, we've already bounced back over 50% which is an overwhelmingly bullish indicator of our recovery

Literally what is the point of long-term investing? The more I learn about stocks the more I feel long-term investing is a waste of time.

>>18551112
>comparing a 1987 crash to 2020

>>18550683
Yes Portnoy you did.

>>18547129
I 100% need to know roughly where you live. You look 1:1 like one of my friends.

>there are still unironic corona doomers itt
the hoax is over libtards

>>18551135
That's wrong. The distribution of that recovery is actually dogshit, literally actual dogshit. Go look at YTD performance. Some shit is hitting ATH. Consider that. ATH after IMF admits a depression and Goldman is expecting hell on earth.

good news lads, i just got off a conference call with president trump and jerome powell and from that call i can confirm with 100% certainty that we're all going to make it!

>>18551348
>good news
Unbelievably bearish, I have just commanded my stock broker to barter my shares for canned vegetables at flea markets

>>18551144
Ben Garrison is peak boomer that can be bought at any price its ridiculous

I got an $800 loss I want to make back. The good news is that I've got 3800 in cash to do it with. What's a good way to make it back quickly yet won't fuck me over? I figured soon a lot of companies stock will be taking a nice hit with earnings around the bend so I could buy the dip then let the gains during the 2nd half the year make up the loss. I'm done with penny stocks. Got lucky with TRNX. I don't want to push it.

>>18551496
SPY calls daily, I literally don't see how this can fail. Buy at the 10:30AM dump, sell at the EOD pump. rinse and repeat

>>18547824
>mom and pops getting crushed
absolutely BULLISH

>Real Time Labor Market Estimates
https://alexbick.weebly.com/uploads/1/0/1/3/101306056/bb_covid.pdf

>>18551496
Gamble on Russian table tennis only picking the favorite. Literally free money.

>>18551073
U, but twentyfive years long. Look at nikkei's ath in the 90s. That's whats ahead

Who here /lost five figures/?

I'm honestly not sure why I come here anymore. I want to improve my stock trading abilities and the only thing that exists here is memes and pump&dump schemes. You guys never post anything new or interesting, I never feel like I learn anything new here anymore.

>>18551653
>he wants to learn about stocks on an anime forum
read a book nigga

>>18551639
Why? Please explain doomer

>>18551671
zombie companies, probably

>>18551653
>I want to improve my stock trading abilities
Ask questions?
Ignore bagholder posts.

>ctrl F
>JCP
>0 results

anon

>>18551686
>JCP board still actively shilling their stock even on weekends

>>18548249
I know that girl her name is melissa

>>18551732
does she have a nice bum?

>>18551653
there was never anything to learn. you'd know that if you weren't a brainlet

>>18551766
Yes

>>18551732
It's actually Lina or Angelina

kangelina99

>>18547478
>Pushing into XOM and OXY seems like a bad play, and tankers are priced in by now. Oil is up on bailouts
All those companies pay very good dividends. So even flatline, the stock is good.

Even if they don't get up to pre corona levels, they still have to go up.

Tankers aren't priced in. There is a strong possibility that tankers will be used has deposits for excess oil. But that isn't fully priced in yet.

>>18551336
>some businesses are excelling and getting more business during the pandemic
THE ATH IS A FUCKING LIE ITS ALL DUE TO PUMPS

JEEERRROOOOOMMMMMEEEE

What's a good very high risk option play for next week? I wanna potentially lose everything

>>18551891
10000 dollars on JCP

I just made pancakes for brekkie, bros.

>>18551891
Put it all on black and let it ride.

>>18551928
I just made pizza

>>18551840
Tankers are priced in. Plebbit and the news has already published articles. Guaranteed that investment bankers decided that as a probability before either of the latter capitulated. It relieves the pressures from roll-overs/contango, far easier than playing the commodity itself.

Don't expect those divvies to remain.

i used to be a doomer but now that reddit is taking dooming to autism levels im no longer a doomer

>>18547382
don't buy PMs, goy
you're only going to be less fucked than people holding stonks

>>18551976
First off, how would you know what reddit is doing, you faggot? Second, can you post proofs?

>>18551976
>he browses reddit

>>18549105
>2021
>>Companies start implementing Work From Home (WFH) permanently
>Mass outsourcing from the West to developing nations
>Unemployment rise
>No retraining
>Companies continue making a profit till it suddenly has no costumers
>Companies start going out of business
why would trump do this?

>>18548593
East coast Anon Bouta fire up the fuckin coffee maker my DUDE, let’s get this /hotbrown/

I can't wait for 18:00. Oil futures are going to be blood fucking red now that we're

>>18552068
>Now that we're
a-anon? Are you okay?

>https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-covid-19-survey-1498768
>According to a survey released Thursday by the Pew Research Center, 65 percent of U.S. adults believe that the president was too slow to take major steps to address the spread of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus. Americans under the age of 50 were 20 percentage points more likely to say so.
>Seventy-three percent of U.S. adults say the worst is yet to come.
>The survey was conducted last week, when between 1,500 and 2,000 Americans were dying each day from COVID-19.
>Trump has defended his administration's response during the critical month of February, when many reports indicated that the government missed a window to take aggressive, pre-emptive action.

are they right?

>>18547485
delete this

>>18549974

>>18552068
There'a sharpshooter in this thr

>>18552068
I see Candlestick Jack got hi

>>18551112
BAsed retard, 1987 had no fundamental cause, it was just algos being retarded/

>>18547872
i wish we actually lived in a free market capitalistic society with government being a check on morality and the common good, instead of a corporate welfare state.

>>18552068
>>18552080
>>18552105
fuck off with that candlejack shit. this isnt 2008 /b/. grow the fuck up unless you wa

>>18547568
Disgusting.

>>18552081
They're wrong, he was very quick to act, and it was an unpopular decision. Many politicians were advocating to partake in lunar new years events after the pres stopped flights. They are digging their own graves by pushing this narrative that trump didn't act fast enough.

>>18551653
Throw all your money into an etf and forget about it until you're too old to enjoy it
I should charge you a fee for that desu

>>18548593
Got my second cuppa incoming

>>18552298
>They are digging their own graves by pushing this narrative that trump didn't act fast enough.
This.
I see this shit in Euro media when the same Euro media and politicians were quick to diss Trump for stopping flights between europe and the USA.

Trump has the election completly in the bag.
Even nignogs with no brain will vote for him because of the trumpbux.
Even yang gang will vote for him because it looks like UBI is closer to happening with trump than with Biden.
And what the fuck is going to happen with Biden? he can't even talk to the cameras with the reporters handholding him.

>>18550939
I'm not an idiot and I'm quite confident in my skills, or my understanding of the market, it's just that I was retarded and copied some WSB positions and YOLOed into them like a moron

>>18552171
Don't you see it? Oil future can only fall due to a very simple mechanism that's somehow and to my complete astonishment not known to the public. It's bec

>>18552298
i honestly still don't understand the meme of how unpopular it was for him to even shut down air travel to china in the first place and how so many democrat politicians called him racist and actively told people to go to chinatown and shit, and now they do a complete 180. reminds me a lot of the 2016 election. remember when Trump was questioning whether the election might be rigged and dems were all like "the PEACEFUL TRANSFER of POWER is a CORE PART of our DEMOCRACY! you *MUST* accept the results of the election, and tell your supporters to do the same, P E A C E F U L L Y", then as soon as he won what did they do? #notmypresident, rioting and looting in dem cities, never trumpers, etc. saying Trump lost the popular vote, that we should abolish the electoral college because Hillary lost, etc, you remember that shit?

i swear the modern democrats are the biggest hypocrits. as much as they hate Hitler i bet you if he did something that would help their position they'd think he is the greatest guy ever. they'll tell you what you do is evil and then as soon as it suits them, they'll do the exact same thing they derided you for and maintain the moral high ground the whole time. the "i was for it before i was against it" mentality is insane.

>>18552298
>They are digging their own graves by pushing this narrative that trump didn't act fast enough.

haven't they been digging their own graves for the past 4 years? the entire Trump presidency has just been a case study in uncovering the deep state and the collusion between the MSM and the DNC. in their countless failed attempts to remove Trump from power, all they've been doing for 4 years now is showing the world example after example of how evil they truly are. it's why trust in the media has hit all time lows, the impeachment being the biggest farce of them all. few people trust them now, and that force is getting stronger and stronger every day.

>>18552479
Because leftists are per definition selfhating and hypocritical. Always.

>>18552479
>>18552534
>>18552636
>>>/pol/

Someone make a new thread

>>18552671
i like /smg/ better. it's like a less overtly racist and schizophrenic /pol/. i don't want to discuss politics with crazy nazi's i want to discuss it with other people who actually pay attention to the markets and know about finance.

>>18552786
>Actually pay attention to markets and know about finance
Lmao sure thing pal