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>> No.18515610

Bears are out in force today.

>> No.18515652
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WHY THE FUCK IS IT MOONING? THERE IS NO CARS ON THE STREETS.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.18515657

Fuckin' oil, man. -6%.
$18 per barrel is peak boomer.

>> No.18515672
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this baby will make me rich in 2022

>> No.18515677

>>18515657
HAL is draining

>> No.18515684

>>18515652
Stock markets are 10% below ATH. Nobody cares right now about fundamentals. BACK TO NORMAL OK?!

>> No.18515702

>>18515684
The king of the Free State of Bavaria (home of BMW) said screw you to the rest of Germany. He won't relax the lockdown until the 3rd of May, and they might revise it.

SAY IT WITH ME, EVERYTHING BACK NORMAL? MMMKAY? VIRUS IS HOAX? MMKAY?

>> No.18515709
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TRNX is free moneys

>> No.18515713

>>18515652
priced in

>> No.18515717

Thoughts on putting some money into At and T ahead of earnings boomer style?

>> No.18515723

we're correcting down now

HARD

>> No.18515725

>>18515702
Who cares? Nobody...basically nobody. Have you seen the HUGE success of GLD? Sick study. Sick control group! But hey BACK TO NORMAL. Luckily i went long and anticipated that the market ist 110% retarded.

>> No.18515732

Jerome has killed the entire bond market. This shit won't recover for decades

>> No.18515741

Don't hold a position for more than 2 days and you people will be fine.

>> No.18515742

>>18515723
I was a bobo once too, but 3%+ isn't correcting down sir.

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>>18515723
Shut up fatty

>> No.18515758

>>18515725
tremendous success i tell you, i haven't seen something like this in my entire life. the CEO of GLD is a good friend of mine, a tremendous man, a great guy. He makes great deals, and I believe that the market will recover big league thanks to them. God bless America.

>> No.18515760

Bad news.... stocks go up.
Good new.... stocks go up.

How long is this sustainable? Does not make any sense.

>> No.18515765

>>18515723
Looks green to me

>> No.18515767

>>18515741
Great advice. Kill yourself

>> No.18515768

>>18515760
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND RIDE IT

>> No.18515778

Long GILD at 89 then sell at 98
Short the dow at an equal notional value to the GILD long
Those are the plays for the day. Good luck

>> No.18515781

>>18515767
Stay poor.

>> No.18515786
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>>18515760
Stocks took a big shit, and people want them to go back up. It’s not science. People are heading back to work and we are betting on America

>> No.18515787
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I'm so glad I don't live in the US right now. You burgers are in a world of hurt once everything settles down.

>> No.18515789
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SELL SELL SELL

>> No.18515792

>AMC filling for bankrupsy
>15% up this week
>Disney closed all park no visitors for a month
>5% up this month

nice free market you got there

>> No.18515794

>>18515781
Stay fat and angry.

>> No.18515797

>>18515786
That does mean shit when the world economy is completely fucked. What happens when people are ready to go back to work and.....they don’t get te-hired.

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>>18515787
why
where do you live that is better than America lol

>> No.18515804

>>18515792
WORKS FOR ME YOU GODDAMN COMMUNIST

>> No.18515806

>these fucking oil prices
Ahh yes, the classic art of the deal
>>18515778
Gild deserves to burn

>> No.18515809

>>18515758
I like, i like.

>>18515786
Still 10-15% room to growth, if NOT MORE! This is the real bull run now.

>>18515789
And here i am. BUYING BUYING BUYING

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>>18515787
I’m so glad I don’t live in whatever stupid place you live in. Sounds gay

>> No.18515813
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>>18515794
Stop projecting. Here have an annie may.

>>18515760
Surge of clueless people entering the market.

>> No.18515815

>>18515792
if people want to buy these stocks they will do it and the stock price will rise. it doesnt matter if you think that its not justified.

>> No.18515816

The real question is do I sell today's pump or hold and wait for monday's pump?

>> No.18515819

>>18515792
Disney has infinity reserves and I guarantee they are "too big to fail".
Is this retarded? Yes.
But welcome to the corporate welfare state.

>> No.18515824

>>18515792
AMC chapter 11.
Disney owns a ridiculous amount of shit and is seeing huge revenue streams from Disney plus right now.

Do research.

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what are stocks that will perform no matter if covid fucked everything up? im thinking about Deutsche Börse.

>fucking trading revenue because everyones going apeshit, these niggas profit anyway
>many analysts still say buy


POST UR STOCKPITCH IDEAS

>> No.18515827

>>18515792
>Chapter 11 Bankruptcy is actually on the table
unironically and without joking. Bullish I say.

>> No.18515832

>>18515816
Better question is, are you wiling to gamble your gains with 2 days worth of uncertainty.

>> No.18515833

>>18515804
>fed buying everything they can get their hands on
>I'm the communist

Invest in ink stocks, the demand is enormous right now.

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18515836

I’m literally all in on United and there is nothing you can do about it.

>> No.18515837
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18515837

My emergency fund is a glock with one bullet ;)

>> No.18515838

>>18515789
>inverted cunny
Its ogre

>> No.18515840

>>18515723
No we won’t

>> No.18515845

>>18515824
Disney's biggest revenue is their parks, Disney plus is nothing.

>> No.18515846

>>18515836
I don't think anyone will remember will when, or if, you get returns in Q4 2021

>> No.18515847

>>18515580

>TQQQ up 7% pre-market

Who else /betterthantheydeserve/ here?

>> No.18515848

Bros stop the banter I got a blessed stack will you help me please? No memes I am in a legit pickle.

>> No.18515853

>>18515832
how safe do you think it is to assume all the normies will see today's stock headlines and pour their savings into the market on monday?

>> No.18515858

>>18515848
trnx

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>>18515778
Brah it's $84 pre market now. Why would it go up?

>> No.18515861

>>18515853
>today's stock headlines
How about the headlines for the weekend?

>> No.18515862

When do I sell my SPXL for JNUG

>> No.18515863

>>18515824
>Disney owns a ridiculous amount of shit and is seeing huge revenue streams from Disney plus right now.
No they aren't. They now get to experience firsthand Netflix's "fuck we make no revenue doing this shit" paradigm.
They could change that if they bought an ISP. Holy shit. That feels like something they would do

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>>18515825
NTDOY

>> No.18515870

>>18515815
blessed

>>18515837
mine is a glock with 3 bullets, because my HP is very high

>> No.18515879
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>sell at 200 bux profit or greedily hold hoping for bad news over weekend to skyrocket the stock
What the fuck do I do guys?

>> No.18515887

>>18515879
Always take profit. You will never regret having more $ in your bank account.

>> No.18515889

>>18515870
Why would anyone shoot themselves in the dick 3 times?

>> No.18515891

>>18515861
but like at this point how bad of news would it take for the market to actually crash again

>> No.18515896

>>18515709
i want to fuck aqua and short trannyx

>> No.18515899
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>>18515887
No one ever lost money taking profit but what if it skyrockets? I'll hate myself.

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>>18515896
>short trannyx
pls dont

>> No.18515905

>>18515580
Bought most of the silicon valley yesterday hoping the hype would go on. But it‘s all just crabbing instead and I‘m wondering if I should take the paltry bucks I made and go back to cash and wait for the proper crash again.

>> No.18515908

>>18515891
You don't even need news. That's the whole point, it could go either way, now it's up to you if you're willing to take the risk or you'll take your gain and re-enter by monday.

>> No.18515909

>>18515905
rip

>> No.18515911

Holy shit everything is going up.

I believe this shit when BULL INDEXES GO BACK TO JANUARY LEVELS (10x coming.)

>> No.18515912

>>18515899
What did you buy

>> No.18515917

>>18515652
Just LARP along with everyone else. Economy has no impact on stocks as long as nobody goes bankrupt(which governments will prevent right now).

>> No.18515919

>>18515879
No need to worry. The economy is in great shape and will stay that forever, nothing can stop it. LONG and HODL like everyone learned from crypto.

>> No.18515923

Sell today and buy a cheap call for next week.

>> No.18515925

Anyone got some thoughts on DHL ? I mean people will buy more stuff on the internet so there has to be someone to deliver it, and they also pay a very high dividend.

>> No.18515930

>>18515905
post your portfolio

>> No.18515936

>>18515879
Just sell half, and hold the rest.

>> No.18515941

>>18515905
>wait for the proper crash again.
I refuse to believe anyone here is stupid enough to post meme phrases about crashes. You had a chance to buy low but you didnt. You wont next time either.

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>>18515925
it is mooning right now and you're late to the party. probably not too late

>> No.18515947

msft 183 and tesla 786 premarket
absolute insanity

>> No.18515957

>>18515947
>MSFT
a textbook example of a monopoly. can't fail.

>TSLA
i have no idea what is going on there.

>> No.18515960

>>18515943
I meant long term.

>> No.18515964

Everything is going to dump at open right?

>> No.18515972

>>18515960
looking at historical data. almost everything goes up long term. as long as you're not investing in a fad or a scam.

>> No.18515973
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>>18515580
Why all the hate for ETFs on here?

>> No.18515975

>>18515964
it will probably crab from the extremely high volume that's going to happen.. but something spectacular in the last 30 mins or so definitely

>> No.18515977

>>18515964
Anything can happen at this point
We could easily see SPY at 300 on monday

>> No.18515984

>>18515973
not enough of a gamble, profits so labeled as boomer shit

>> No.18515986

>>18515964
Yeah but from profit taking, not fear

>> No.18515988

>>18515964
We’re not going to see a dump till we see ATHs

>> No.18515993

>>18515947
MSFT it never bothered me, it is a good company with some very good products and is a resilient IT value.
TSLA yeah, total bullshit.

>> No.18515995

>>18515973
>Why all the hate for ETFs on here?
I used to root for ETFs until I started doing proper research on them and I got a pile of cash to put in them. I discovered they are the financial equivalent of cuckeldry. You're basically tell someone to choose the stocks for you while they fuck you up the ass with holding fees and operating fees. Also in some parts of Europe you have to pay annual taxes on whatever unrealized gains you made on the ETF.
No thanks, I can pick my own portfolio of stocks and hold them long term.

>> No.18515997

>>18515973
With volatility this high, its a bad idea to go for a long hold with something like an ETF. This is a trader's paradise right now. When things go back to being boring, the money you make from swing trades will go into ETFs to ride stock market inflation until the next crash.

>> No.18515999

>>18515973
Imagine asking /diy/ why they hate ikea.

>> No.18516007

>>18515993
>>18515957
what's insane is that msft is back like nothing happened at all, i meant. and will probably reach new ath today

>> No.18516018

>>18516007
it's an IT company, everyone can work from home. but like the other anon said, expect a dump when things hit or get near ATH.

>> No.18516019
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Selling my GILD calls at open
Who is with me?

>> No.18516020

>>18516007
Tech bubble is being inflated faster than anything and everything else. There is some logic to MSFT maybe settling down near there again. But the P/E ratios on some of these tech stocks is stupid

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WOAH

>> No.18516024

>>18515973
people here have burned out dopamine receptors, lack of self control and they are using stock market to get a high, that's why they gamble using options
ETFs and long term investing don't provide that instant reward and so they're stuck making bad financial decisions for the rest of their lives

>> No.18516025

The next resistance level is 308 right? If we go past 290 we should hit 300 or did I fuck up my fibs

>> No.18516026

What's your investing strategy? I'll start.

Long 40 value stocks. Sorted on EBITDA/TEV and rebalanced monthly.

Long 40 momentum stocks. Sorted on generic 12 month momentum skipping the last month + sorted on smoothness (https://www3.nd.edu/~zda/Frog.pdf).).

Trend following overlay:

Excess return is the total return over the past 12 months less return of the risk free rate. If excess return is above 0, then go long. Else short the market index using futures by 50% (of the portfolio value).

Moving Average (12) is the average of 12 monthly prices for the market. If the current price of the market - MA (12) is above 0, then go long. Else short the market index using futures by 50% (of the portfolio value).

Started this in 2007. The trend following rules saved me in 2008/2009 and now as well. I started using B/M (Fama French) for value but changed to EBITDA/TEV in 2011 and added the smoothness sort to momentum in early 2015.

Everything is based on academic research.

>> No.18516028

>>18516023
>falling for the pre-market trap

>> No.18516030

>>18516025
>we should hit 300 or did I fuck up my fibs
This arbitrary voodoo nonsense is basically crypto tier trash

>> No.18516036

>>18516030
Nice bait

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can someone explain to me how AMD keeps staying based?

>> No.18516038

>>18516026
>Everything is based on academic research.
opinion discarded.

>> No.18516039

>>18516036
nice metabait

>> No.18516040

>>18516026
thanks anon, much appreciated.

>> No.18516043

>>18516026
so many stocks if you had just longed MSFT you will outperform any strat you have

>> No.18516044

>>18515941
>Believing we're on route for a proper return to normal
We're doing a huge dead cat bounce right now. The full shake out is going to happen around July once the mortgage freeze ends and three months of landie rent money is due to the banks up front.

>> No.18516049

>>18516026
Momentum is also rebalanced monthly obviously. I manage the futures daily when I have short positions. I'm market neutral right now.

>> No.18516050

>>18516023
What is the name of this watchlist
“pieces of shit to monitor?”

>> No.18516052

>>18516026
so you are saying that I should do puts on TSLA until I get rich, I can get behind that

>> No.18516053

>>18516044
LOL
it's over, give up doomer

>> No.18516054

>>18516019
There are at leas two anons who think it is a moon mission

>> No.18516057

>>18516050
kek

>> No.18516058

>>18516028
There's no way in hell the gains are completely lost today with the VIX as low as it is. It's going to push on 2950 at least at some point during the day. I don't think we break it, nor 3k which is what will start the crash on Monday.

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>>18515580
i.... i'm financially ruined... all those decades of hard work, gone....

>> No.18516062

>>18516037
>supply processors to two of the three competitors in the console market
>big deals with HP, DELL, AWS, and Azure
>outperform your competition at cheaper prices while having less than half the capital
they can't lose.

>> No.18516063

>>18515947
MSFT is not surprising. The Teams software is being shilled like theres no tomorrow and every business is using it.

>> No.18516065

>>18516026
>TA but on a time span of months when the black swan even is only the past 2 months
I don't understand why you don't have at least a short term MA or EMA to sound off your MA12m

>> No.18516068

>>18516050
Its called cigar butt investing

>>18516025
fettuccini retracement says 2934.5

>> No.18516072

>>18516044
>landie rent money is due to the banks up front.
And the government is just going to let everyone go bust on that exact date? No they basically confirmed they will do anything to protect the economy. Its over doomers, pack it up and head home.

>> No.18516073

>CNBC still shilling market manipulation remdesivir article
Desperate

>> No.18516075

>>18516063
This, I laugh when I hear about zoom nonstop. I will say this, i hate teams but am forced to use it.

>> No.18516076

>>18516030
If SPY is gonna move like a shitcoin I’m gonna treat it like one

>> No.18516082

>>18516076
You make a good point

>> No.18516085

>>18516076
Based and clownpilled

>> No.18516089

I know nothing of stock but I saw a video saying this was a 'dead cat bounce'. How long do they usually last?

>> No.18516097

>>18516068
its how buffet made his money based.

>> No.18516098

>>18516089
>How long do they usually last?
as long as our savior Jerome is around.

>> No.18516099

>>18516089
Right until you buy in.

>> No.18516105

>>18516026
>TEV

financial documents on the asx dont always tend to show the debt breakdown, sometimes its just listed as a liability mixed in with a bunch of other liabilities

>inb4 who cares about ausfags

>> No.18516111

>ETF's up 2%
Yeah.. I'm thinking I'm based.

>> No.18516112

>talking heads on cable shilling a v-recovery
Absolutely bearish

>> No.18516117

so this remdesivir hopium is based on a leaked video of a doctor at one of the hospitals where non-db trials are taking place?
whatever happened to that other doctor claiming that hxc was curing all the patients coming into his clinic?

>> No.18516118

>>18515995
Gold ETF are trackers of the underlying asset. A lot of them even hedge against currency devaluation. Not everyone can trade physical of a weekly basis...

>> No.18516121

>>18516112
How is that bearish? Clearly looks like one.

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Where are my PG chads at?

>> No.18516126

>>18516118
i am talking about stock etf's. Commodity ETF's seem to be the only ones that make sense.

>> No.18516129

Do you think Gilead is worth a 5k punt? It's only up 11% in the past 28 days.

>> No.18516135

>>18516129
Gilead is fake news

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Was the hacker known as 4chan priced in?

>> No.18516139

>>18516089
in theory it should but we’re playing a rigged game, don’t expect a further drop down ask yourself: what kind of circumstances should cause a huge dunp. even if you have q reasonable theory then ask yourself do you want to go against the FED? Ray Dalio himself said that the “people” won’t let this market crash down and will do anything necessary.

>> No.18516141

>>18516121
Yes, yes, you better buy in before you miss out on the rally to the full recovery, am I right?

>> No.18516144

>>18516112
this, people speaking about ATH and no crash possible, peak euphoria reached soon

>> No.18516149

>>18516129
if you didn't get in yesterday then its not worth bro

>> No.18516154

>>18516068
stop using fibb retracements you dumb bitch. the only retracements that matter are 50% and 100% and neither are fibb levels, no one fucking cares about your 69.696969 level. it's not an EMA 20/50/200 or the VWAP or support/resistance levels, all of which are unironically used extensively by tutes. at least use those if you're going for the "self-fulfilling prophecy" trading route.

>> No.18516157

>>18516141
Already bought in days ago. I am good, but keep spoucing about the end of the world.

>> No.18516162

up 18k on trnx in just a single day and it's still climbing

time to quit my job

>> No.18516164

>>18516068
>>18516154
hot damn, TA is truly the cup reading of stocks.

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Can anyone remind me again why we have to get up every morning to go to work, when the economy works fine when everything is closed and all we could do is just print money?

>> No.18516174

>>18516065
Shorter term MA gives too many false positives (which also means that my trading costs will go up a lot) and longer term MA will probably protect you against 50+% drawdowns (at least historically). It's a trade-off and it's better than nothing at least.

>>18516105
Not sure what you point is, but I use EBITDA/TEV because it has back-tested well (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-financial-and-quantitative-analysis/article/enterprise-multiple-investment-strategy-international-evidence/5C34D118442E97817DCF9C9F354026A2)) and it makes intuitive sense (hard to do many accounting shenanigans with it).

>> No.18516178

>>18516157
whats spoucing?

>> No.18516180

>>18516162
where was trnx shilled? i haven't seen anything about it here until it mooned. suspicious

>> No.18516182

A ray of hope for any bobos: spooz 1 day looks like it'll draw a doji

>> No.18516184

>>18516112
Weren't they saying that since 2 weeks? Whatever is happening now isn't a recovery. These profits must be taken otherwise AMZN is going to be 40% above ATH when we reach 30k and most other shit will still be 50% down.

>> No.18516186

>>18516180
i got lucky googling yesterday when it was still .11

>> No.18516187
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18516187

I only feel confident in defense stocks at the point. There's no way the USA won't invade another third world country for vague reasons at the end of this.

>> No.18516188

>>18516157
>end of the world
No one mentioned the end of the world.

>> No.18516190

>>18516180
>i haven't seen anything about it here until it mooned.
buy high sell low

>> No.18516191

>>18516164
>>18516154
>>18516068
daily reminder it also performed worst in a comparison, someone has the link of the analyst results with TA being 22% correct?

>> No.18516192

>>18516174
literally not what you posted. im saying my dogshit local market sometimes dont list their debt breakdown on their balance sheet. its infuriating at times. we dont get the based sec formatting

>> No.18516195

>>18516164
It sort of works sometimes because enough people believe it does

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where is SNSS fag at these days? I kinda miss him. I hope he didn't commit suicide.

>> No.18516205

>>18516157
Nobody is producing anything for a month or two at the absolute minimum. And production can‘t just be flipped on again in a second once it is. Plus, as soon as government assistance ends, some businesses will die a delayed death. The idea that stocks are going straight back to normal from here is delusional.

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>>18516154
>>18516164
>>18516068
Also uncle buffet never looked / did TA in his life
fundamentals reflect prices and potential

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I love this market

>> No.18516214

>>18516192
>im saying my dogshit local market sometimes dont list their debt breakdown on their balance sheet
Why is this allowed?

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>>18516186
post position or LARP

>> No.18516223

>>18516182
The bears must win this now otherwise the bond market will stay annihilated for years and inflation will actually happen now the normies are getting their options right.

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>>18516199
he violated parole because he lost his job kek, back in jail

>> No.18516225

>>18516188
Then 15% below ATH for 1 shitty Quarter sounds reasonable to me. Nothing wrong with the current valuations

>> No.18516227

>>18515912
MRNA

>> No.18516230

>>18516019
I would but sold them monday...
>>18516054
>There are at leas two anons who think it is a moon mission
Moon mission when it was 88 after hours and it's 84 in pre market?
Yeah sure...
Biotechs are always pump and dump, if you don't have them when news hits, you're toast.

>>18516019
Put up a stoploss at 82 or some shit like that and see where it is going on open, I think it will rise to 90~95 and 5mins later normalize at 80~85...
I'm not in the play, I'm considering buying at opening just because I believe even if it falls it will briefly go up with the hype.

no... I'm not getting into GILD again, fuck bio...but money is money, 84 to 90, 6 per action seems completely possible...

>> No.18516231

reminder: if you use options you might as well go trade crypto

>> No.18516232

>>18516216
search the archive if you want to see
Also buy now it's going up!

>> No.18516234

>>18516164
TA is fine, fibb retracements is straight-up reading the tea leaves. they're magic numbers. industry standard EMA values, VWAP, support/resistance... these are things institutions actually trade based on and you can see it on a chart. the average price isn't a "magic number".

basically in stock trading there are many self-fulfilling prophecies you can trade based off of and fibb isn't one of them. you want the stuff that everyone knows about and uses, the tutes especially.

>> No.18516239

>>18516112
We will have a mostly V shaped recovery to the all time highs by early summer. Then the big boys take profit right before the mortgage freeze ends and Trump does something stupid like tell everyone to go back to work by any means necessary before the vaccine arrives.

>> No.18516240

>>18516225
>1 shitty Quarter
>1
Do bullfags seriously believe this?

>> No.18516241

Boeing is restarting production! What is habbening?!

>> No.18516252

>>18516239
What vaccine?

>> No.18516257
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I have pretty much hit the point I was at before this crash. As in my portfolio has fully recovered, despite the fact covid hasn't even peaked yet and the real economy is absolutely fucked. It seems pretty obvious to me that I should sell everything (except oil) at market open. But of course part of me is scared that the market will continue being irrational and I will miss out on making profit. Why is this so hard...

>> No.18516258

>>18516231
...unless you have been trading for years

>> No.18516259

>>18516241
They found another empty parking lot.

>> No.18516268

>>18516241
They are state owned now, pretty much they'll do what Trump orders them to do.

>> No.18516269

>>18516259
Lol
As long as RTX and BA goes up...

>> No.18516271

GME short squeeze over?

I have some $5.5 calls expiring 5/15.

With vote on April 20th, I was hoping maybe we see pump last ten minutes today as someone decides to make a last-minute buy hoping to get more shares without giving other side enough time to react.

Is that retarded?

>> No.18516273

>>18516195
>It sort of works sometimes because enough people believe it does
This.
It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

>> No.18516275

>>18516205
But they have already gone back to normal for the most part, and you missed the rise

>> No.18516279

lmao look at the RSI on SPY
this shit is going to drop today

>> No.18516282

>>18516234
or to put it another way: all TA is trying to do is analyze where the buyers and sellers are at based on price action and volume. ideally you're trying to find around the level where buyers won't let the price go lower and the level where sellers won't let the price go higher. it also means if price breaks through an area where sellers won't let it go higher multiple times, there is a good chance the sellers have sold everything and now the price can be bid higher, making it a good entry point. same for selling. this is basic breakout-related stuff, another thing that tons of people and tutes trade based on thus making it useful. to buy low and sell high you have to know where everyone else in the room is buying and where they're selling at, basically, and that's what TA does.

>> No.18516291

>>18516170
People still need goods and services. Especially lazy low IQ mutts

>> No.18516295

>>18516257
Because we don't know if we're going up do to insane inflation or some jew game to trap greed. If it's the first I'd go balls deep in stock but we'll not know before it's too late.

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It is too late to go all in on MFA? What price will it open it at? Should I place buy limits right now or just wait?

>> No.18516309

>>18516207
which site is this?

>> No.18516310

my number went down a little but i hope today it goes up a lot

>> No.18516313

>>18516295
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO

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sold at the bottom and immediately rebought

>> No.18516318

>>18516273
>It's a self fulfilling prophecy

that's not a problem, that's fine. you're just trying to find where the buyers and sellers are at any given moment, where the areas of value are located and how price and volume react when they reach those areas.

in forex, the banks take price in the opposite direction of what the majority is doing, so you actually want to be a special snowflake there. but in stocks? it's the opposite. you want to buy at a level where there will be a ton of buying, people buying is what bids the price higher and makes you money. if you know a lot of people are buying at a relevant spot then it means you can have a relatively small risk compared to a potentially much greater reward, and risk to reward is all that really matters in the game of trading.

does this make sense or am i leaving anything out?

>> No.18516322

Oilbros, I dont feel so good...

>> No.18516323

SELL BEFORE EARNINGS COME OUT. You saw what happened with the banks that were open, just imagine these companies that have been closed.

>> No.18516328

>>18516317
flat day just like she is

>> No.18516331

should i buy boeing?

>> No.18516332

>>18516317
keeping the /biz/ tradition alive and well i see.

>> No.18516334

>>18516323
This market doesn't care about earnings

>> No.18516337

I'm proud to be a part of this number
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axePr_RLS0o

>> No.18516338

>>18516331
Why didn't you buy the dip yesterday like I told you to?

>> No.18516339

trnx .30+ now
hope u bought in

>> No.18516341

>>18516282
TA just tells you were the stops for the ride might be, no real indicator of direction when the next big move is up. You can have it slamming into a level for hours and it breaks through or it reverses and breaks the other way. The break through move will be too fast to trade.

>> No.18516343

>>18515988
We already have lmao

>> No.18516345

>>18516199
hopefully back in jail with the rest of the cancerous tripfags. I really need yalls help to convince them to exit rope

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>analysts just repeat 4chan memes
Maybe I could recoup my Bobo losses being an analyst

>> No.18516348

>>18516271
is there any possibility of this company turning around or its definitely going to go bankrupt?

>> No.18516354

>>18516257
it's unfortunate you don't day trade, friend. see, when you trade intraday, you get to use stop losses. after i have a successful trade by scaling out half my position at 1x the ATR, i can just trail my stop for the other position behind the low of a candle or two behind the current price. i get stopped out wherever i get stopped out, sometimes i just break even on the other half, sometimes i make 5 or 10 times my risk. the market decides that, not me, but either way i win. sucks you can't do that while holding overnight, fren...

>> No.18516355

I have a feeling Monday will be blood red after today's gains and I'm itching to sell all holdings now and buy again on Monday. Advice, lads?

>> No.18516356

>>18516339
Stop shilling that dogshit nobody is pumping your bags

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>>18516323

>> No.18516365

>>18516355
Sell, buy Kleros, sell some PNK on a 10x, re-enter boomer markets.

>> No.18516367

Any europoors here dabbling in US stocks? Is it worth it?

>> No.18516371

>>18516331
If you wait a few weeks you can probably just buy the whole company.

>> No.18516374

>>18516323
Earnings? Who needs earnings?
*laughs in 737 Max*

>> No.18516375

>>18516358
what? what happened?

>> No.18516377

>>18516334
You posted two too many words, anon.

>> No.18516380

>>18516377
kek'ed and checked

>> No.18516382

>>18516318
>does this make sense or am i leaving anything out?
Yes.

That is the beauty of stocks, compared to shit coins.

>> No.18516385

>>18516339
Just make a bot to spam tweets you honestly have a better chance tricking the retarded algos.

>> No.18516387

>>18516341
>the break through move will be too fast to trade

that's not true at all, it's precisely where the 3 bar play and stop loss trap plays come from. the key is you use a stop order to ENTER the position. just watch:
stop loss trap on /ES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOUxth4ez_g
3 bar play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IQqxX1f1I0

>> No.18516388

>>18516282
Better yet, I could line my ass up to the moon and check if it'll reflect.

I kid anon, there's no point convincing other people. Everyone has their style in regardless of how retarded it may be.

>> No.18516390

>>18516356
i want you to make moneys too <3

>> No.18516392

>>18516354
You realise you don't have to day trade to set sell orders right?

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>>18516231
You can make bigger gains trading options than crypto though

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>>18516355
I am doing exactly the same. I'm betting on today pumping me into profit territory then I'm getting the fuck out before market close and buying back in once everyone is swimming in blood next week,

>> No.18516405

>>18516347
Could analysts just be more useless?
They report after facts, are as bewildered be trends as someone with minimum knowledge would be.

>> No.18516406

trnx .32

>> No.18516409

>>18516392
stop losses only trigger during normal market hours. the opening price of the day doesn't have to be equal to the closing price of the day before.

>> No.18516411

>>18516365
drink bleach underage street shitter

>> No.18516418

>>18516367
i went all in at the bottom of an american biopenny. boring but not stressful.

>> No.18516421

>>18516401
What I’m hoping for too

>> No.18516425

>>18516347
P R I C E D I N

>> No.18516427

I honestly think RCL would have a better business model if they just owned the boats and never had anyone on them and keep swing trading their own stock

>> No.18516430

I really gotta stop setting a limit long/short before going to sleep. Daytrade and I make about 100 bucks a day, filling positions in my sleep, and I'm stuck holding for a week until it's back in green while I miss out on opportunities.

>> No.18516435

>>18516367
>Any europoors here dabbling in US stocks? Is it worth it?
Yes, Degiro 50cents per trade fee is very good and 0.1% comission on autoFX is peanuts.
It's chepaer than euro stocks

Just beaware of the EUR/USD fluctuation when you buy and sell. I actually made money on red stocks because of FX. USD rose more than the stock fell.

>> No.18516438

>>18516406
Why and how? It left off at like 23 cents yesterday. I'm still new so explain this price.

>> No.18516439

>>18516050
The "Corona is a nothingburger" portfolio

>> No.18516444

>>18516438
insane volume

>> No.18516447

>>18516435
this, but remember to disable autoFX when you sell so that your money remains in the USD account. only enable the FX when you're ready to cash in the gains in eurobux

>> No.18516451

Nasdaq futures starts smelling the blood bath of the earning season

target is unironically 5555 points by May 5th (5/5)

>> No.18516454

GILD puts or calls? Strike and expiry?

Thinking desperate boomers could even see gold and talk about a cure that helps us to open up with a p=0.8 on marginal improvements

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>>18516435
>>18516367
Fees? hahahaah
if you're a eurofag get revolut, totally fee-less trading
t. revolut metal chad

>> No.18516460

>>18516435
I see, is interactive brokers a good place to start?

>> No.18516464

>>18516444
I still don't get it. Guess I need to do more research. I'm just a little fish in a pond of whales it feels like.

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>>18516444
-40% EBITDA
no thanks

>> No.18516469

>>18516406
What kind of meme is this? They were at 28,000 5 years ago?
LMAO!

>> No.18516471

how come GILD stock isnt going up reall...for something that boosted up the economy. i thought it would be alot higher than 85

>> No.18516476

Direction on SPY after open? Open high and plummet maybe, or are we making it to 295?

>> No.18516477

>>18516469
meme money meme economy meme everything
get on board damnit!

>> No.18516480

Are stocks gonna crash today?

>> No.18516482

>>18516471
Because it was a fraud pump and dump

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>>18516471
nm cnbc puming it

>> No.18516485

>>18516476
Gradual drip downwards but still close in green.

>> No.18516487

>>18516476
Expecting to dip from profit taking and bounce at 285

>> No.18516495

>>18516459
>revolut
what products can you trade on them? only stonks?
>only 8 trades per month on free
oh nevermind, i think there are better alternatives with free trading and no restriction

>> No.18516497

>>18516459
>imagine not including the 14 euro monthly fee

>> No.18516507

How high is BA going to moon, lads?

>> No.18516508

>>18516454
Truth is the drug is a bust, mildly effective but a lot of side effects. Worse than the malaria meds that are giving people heart attacks and retinopathy. Question is how long till they figure that out.

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>>18516309
>>18516207
>>18516191
>>18516164
>>18516154
forgot my fettucini chart

>> No.18516512

lol it's a literal pyramid scheme at this point

>> No.18516513
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Why is oil at 18.40

>> No.18516514

>>18516497
you don't have to get metal, you can trade for free with standard plan. 14 euros a month is less than nothing to me so I didn't even consider mentioning it

>> No.18516515

Fuck me

I made 6k trading and lost 4.5k on shorts

I know this isn't a lot of money for most people but I feel like a complete idiot shorting SPY over and over again expecting things to fall.

My expectation now is that we'll crab downwards over the next year or so.

Fuck.

>> No.18516517

>>18516464
It means he's already in position. If you buy, he sells.

>> No.18516523

What sticks should I be buying right now?

>> No.18516524

>>18516451

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/earningsseason.asp

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A thread this long and no RTX chads reporting? Sad!

>> No.18516527

>>18516513
Art of the Deal

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.18516531

>>18516515
Keep in mind that this was done with 10k starting.

>> No.18516534

Do I chuck my margin into this rally today boys?

>> No.18516535

>>18516526
im more of a GD chad

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A man ejaculating into a woman's vagina

>> No.18516547

>>18516531

I hate people like you. You're part of the reason the market keeps going up.

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>>18515652
>NOOOOO BMW CAN'T MOON!
Seethe harder Commie

>> No.18516553

>>18516531
That's fine anon, charge to experience. Have a trading plan and stick to it.

>> No.18516560

>>18516515
its a learning experience

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>>18516538
Why does this man have internal testicles?

>> No.18516568

>>18516547
The market doesn't exist. It's not a real thing tied to reason or facts. It wills money into existence merely through desire. If you are expecting anything related to the market to be sensible you will always be poor.

>> No.18516579

>>18516400
What does -287,000$ mean ?

>> No.18516587

I must say
Those coronavirus numbers look awful.
Without medicine of a vaccine those numbers can only go up or at least stay on the same level.
China has been crabbing for weeks now.

>> No.18516595

>>18516538
is this bullish?

>> No.18516596

>>18516517

That scamming SOB

>> No.18516601

>>18516595
only if the male is black

>> No.18516611

>>18516587
Bullish

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>>18516587
no no no we open by tomorrow

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>>18516510

>> No.18516619

Oil is up 40% because fuck you

>> No.18516621

>>18516601
>t. mutt

>> No.18516623

>>18516601
Lol, mutts law, always true.

>> No.18516626

>>18516510
>>18516617
what are we supposed to see in these magic charts?

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>>18516619

>> No.18516633

>>18516601
Let me guess, you're American

>> No.18516634

>>18516626
Your future lover

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>>18516626
here is the log scale

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18516637

Should I just go all in now and put myself into a 10 year coma?

>> No.18516649

>>18516515
>>18516560
Now what did we learn?
>line only go up.

>> No.18516650

>>18516636
it tells me nothing anon, i just see lines, are these support lines?

>> No.18516663

>>18516650
fettuccine lines

>> No.18516667

>>18516513
Because you can't manipulate real demand (Or rather, the lack of thereof.) when it comes to commodities that must be consumed immediately due to the difficulty of storing them.

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>>18516637
imagine selling everything you have, sticking it into some stonks and leaving to live in a monastry for 10-20 years, actually doesnt sound too stupid, maybe you wouldnt even care for money after it

>> No.18516669

>>18516637
All of my trades are to grow my assets to dump into SPXL when VIX is down and then not bother checking the account except for the next crash.

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>> No.18516678

>>18516303
It's always too late. That's the 2nd rule of stocks

>> No.18516684

>>18516677
is that a tranny?

>> No.18516696

>>18516668
i have 20 acres, thinking about just homesteading for a few decades and see what is left of my portfolio lmao the taxes on the property are $28 a year

>> No.18516700

>>18516411
Is bleach strong enough tho??

>> No.18516706

>>18516684
no, that's just a sad money paypig from Pittsburgh

>> No.18516710

>>18516271
Shorts gave back their shares and switched to naked shorts hoping they can deliver after 20th.
Borrow fee is going up and bond refinancing news is coming.

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All of my losses from the great crash have been completely regained at this point. Shortest recession ever and I scooped up a bunch of cheapies when opportune. Indisputably comfy rn.

>> No.18516721

>>18516460
For start. No, just because they ask for a bunch of documents to set up an account. And the way their fees work.
Degiro has a pdf will all the fees, asks nothing but you ID card to match your banking account.

>> No.18516729

>>18516460
Do you plan on holding >100k in assets - then yes

>> No.18516731

>>18516677
>Honey! Time for you 4pm wallet flattening
>Yes dear...

>> No.18516740

>>18516178
Bastardized "espouse" it seems

>> No.18516744

>>18516714
All my massive gains from the great crash have been lost. I feel like fucking shit.

>> No.18516765

>>18516744
don't do it you could catch something

>> No.18516773

>>18516744
saame, same

>> No.18516779

jesus christ wtf is happening to oil
is this the "opec deal turns out to not be true" news being priced in?

>> No.18516800

So gold usually follows the market but it's down while futures are up. Anyone care to guess why?

>> No.18516818

>>18516800
>boomer rocks
Lol nigga

>> No.18516822

>>18516721
Degiro doesn't support my country so I guess I'll choose something else

>> No.18516832

>>18516800
Philosopher stones printing rocks

>> No.18516837

>>18516800
No bullion exbert but precious metals and manufacturing go hand in hand. I’d wager once factories that process said materials open back up so will demand and price.

>> No.18516840

>>18516514
>you can trade for free with standard plan
yeah 8 trades a fucking month lmao

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>>18516744
Betting against the infinite printer is futile fren, embrace the clown market. Repent from your Bobo ways and buy the next dip. Mumu will forgive you of your sins, remember, stonks only go up!

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shits fucked bros

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18516885

I'm officially out of the money to buy stonks.

FULL desposit is loaded balls deep into stonks. Let's hope for a pump now.

>> No.18516886

everyone i know didn't have enough money to buy the dip after 2008
now everyone knows that stocks only go up so they put most of their money into the stock market
next, we get to witness the rug pulled from underneath and everyone is utterly financially ruined
the market won't bottom out until the majority of people have thrown in the towel
remember, most people haven't felt any pain from this yet, most people haven't lost their jobs and those who have only in the last few days / weeks

>> No.18516896

>>18516447
>disable autoFX when you sell so that your money remains in the USD account.
So can I have 2 currencies?
How does that work?

>> No.18516899

>>18516232
fake and gay

>> No.18516902

>>18516840
so spend 14 a month if you can't afford that you shouldn't be fucking investing lmao it's literally nothing, 14 EUROS A MONTH for feeless trading

>> No.18516914

>>18516454
>>18516471
ALWAYS SELL ON THE NEWS
Specially for biotech

>> No.18516925

>>18516896
i think so yes, go to the options and disable autoFX, it becomes manual. So your money is stored in USD and you'll be able to reinvest in NYSE without incurring the money transfer chargers from EUR to USD.

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>>18516886
explain why do you think that economic crisis in real life has anything to do with the price of stocks?

people losing their jobs are not on the market right now anyway

>> No.18516933

>>18516886
This isn’t 2008, remove that blackpill buttplug from your orifice. Economy is opening back up (slowly but surely) and we’ll be at new ATH’s by EoY thanks to the infinite printer. It will be totally artificial and not reflective of what’s actually happening but it won’t matter.

>> No.18516938

>>18516447
>so that your money remains in the USD account.
How does that work? Don't you need to do a manual conversion that costs a lot when you want to cash out in Eurobux?

>> No.18516945

>>18516886
In 2008 very few people had access to option trading.

Now everyone is gambling in the market, even if it crashes you can make money.
That is why it doesn't crash.

>> No.18516951

>>18516886
I would love for this to happen, but it isn't likely until Powell raises rates after Trump is reelected.

>> No.18516958

>>18516938
>Don't you need to do a manual conversion that costs a lot when you want to cash out in Eurobux?
exactly, but you will do that only once when you cash out and the fee isn't even that high.

>> No.18516967

god imagine being an insider and having bought those sweet gilead calls

>> No.18517002

>>18516967
Welcome to why biotech is, in general, a pump and dump scheme across the board

>> No.18517010

>>18516958
Thanks for the tip, did not know you could work like this when investing with foreign currency on Degiro.
>10,00 € + 0,02 %
Well, could make sense at certain amounts

>> No.18517033

>>18516967
just use an option sweeper to see huge orders before close and follow the money.

>> No.18517039

>>18516886
I like this post.

>> No.18517130

>>18516886
>most people haven't lost their jobs
Nigger we're literally at ATH unemployment.

>> No.18517216

do we snib or snab today?

>> No.18517235

>>18516744
same here anon

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trnx .35

>> No.18517313

>>18515652
proof the "economy" they are running is 100% artificial not real and a scam

>> No.18517532

>>18517281
>reached a peak of 100k per share

we stock split supreme now

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18517748

up $500 for the day might just close out

>> No.18517916

>>18515652
People determine the price, commie.

>> No.18518013

>>18516587
Sure it will.

>> No.18518021

>>18516619
Fang isn't.

>> No.18518066

>>18516696
Noice.