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And for anyone asking: yes this is bullish as fuck.

https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/views/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-DailyTracker?%3Aembed=yes&%3Atoolbar=no&%3Atabs=n

>USA is the biggest loser in the corona game. Financially, socially and politically.

The next line:
>And for anyone asking: yes this is bullish as fuck.

Retard

>>18483839
Because bullish is the new meme, you are the real retard here.

Nothing matters anymore.

Less people coming in with symptoms, less people you need to test
Not sure wtf OP is on about.

>>18483803

Holy shit thats bullish!
Tomorrow we go to the moOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooon!

>>18483881
Not true at all lol.
What’s happening is the curve flattening is preventing a massive hospital surge.
Probably 1-2 million people in NYC have it and likely 25,000-45,000 will be dead In the city by May 30th. So that’s a fatality rate of around 1-3%
Likely also though hospitalization rates were much lower than theorized. Likely around 5% not 20%. Also it can take weeks for symptoms to develop or for an outcome.

Also NY is adding more people the the hospitals in recent days.

If the curve wasn’t flattened likely 5-7 million would have been infected by now and the hospitals would have seen a massive rush, and the death toll in the city Alone would have been 200,000

>>18484056
>>18483881
So most you have around 100,000-200,000 people that will need hospitalization since the lock down went into effect over a 3 month period
And you would have had 300,000- 600,000 that would have needed hospitalization if we did not slow down the R0 of the virus

>>18483727
Your also inccorect becuase they test people who most need testing so it’s likely they are getting a lot of the cases

Also since 1-2 million people in the City have it, likely we will see a steady increase for a while as presympomatic people develop symptoms

>>18484093
People that would have required hospitalization are also dying extremely fast, freeing up bed space

The date has consistently shown that around 10-20% of people they test daily will be admitted to the hospital, so 1,000-2,000 as they have confirmed 8,000-10,000 per day.
now 30-50% are asymptotic or presympomatic meaning that they are missing a lot of cases.

But regardless, around 800-1000 people are dying per day with it with around 700-800 dying in hospital beds

So the hospital beds needed per day are being reduced by 700-800 and they are missing patients that require care who die at home adding 100-200 people that would have required a hospital bed

Thus they are adding around 200-1200 people in hospital beds per day. I don’t think their models took this into account, also that they would miss around 20% of the people would needed hospitalization

The key take away is this
>they are stuck with lockdowns for months
And are far away from herd immunity
Lockdowns of some kind will be in place until a vaccine or herd immunity is reached
With 15% estimates infected in NYC, the city needs another 45-65% to becoming infected

i live in nyc, my whole family got sick, but they refused to test any of us because they're only testing people who are hospitalized. sick people are being told to just assume they might have it and stay home, no test. you have to show up to the hospital about to die to get the test

>>18484325

edit: or be rich or a celebrity with special access

>>18483881
You can say that when your case positivity is even close to the level of European countries. At 40% you are you are not probably even testing the health care workers regularly.

>>18484056
>If the curve wasn’t flattened likely 5-7 million would have been infected by now and the hospitals would have seen a massive rush, and the death toll in the city Alone would have been 200,000

They have for sure greatly affected the spread rate, but judging this by the daily case development is meaningless because we know that US had a huge backlog in April. Clearing the backlog can make the curve look "flattening" even if true case numbers are increasing steadily.

>>18484296
The death numbers do not include the people dying outsude hospitals. NYC reported that they have 4000 new deaths from people who have covid on the death certificate. But they still are not added to the official figures.

If the same is applied throughout states and they are added to the official numbers, we will get probably +30% new deaths overnight soon. SP500 is going to the moon.
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1250169761176190977?s=19

>>18483881
ya either that or they are being turned away and dying in their homes because we don’t have enough tests: https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/nycs-coronavirus-death-toll-surpasses-10k-with-new-tally-of-home-deaths/

It also looks like there are a lot of corona deaths reported as cardiac arrests.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/13/deaths-from-cardiac-arrests-have-surged-in-new-york-city

>>18484325
that's because you guys don't need the test and they don't want your family to waste medical resources. It sounds like your family is fine and it - none meme - is just a flu. Big deal. It will be cured in days and you will have immunity