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>>18466450
Much

>>18466450
Without a doubt

>>18466487
>>18466490
peak delusion

>>18466450
no. it's just a critical dapp on ETH. Name one other chain with any product at all using chainlink.

absolutely guaranteed.

that is, if you're talking about whether Sergey will be bigger than Vitalik

>>18466487
>>18466490
Read this:
>>18466504

how can a erc token be bigger than ethereum?

eth = ibm
link = microsoft
yes link will be bigger than eth, it’s no brainer

>>18466450
No.

ETH is the settlement layer, LINK is the actual execution powerhouse.

No. It is mathematically impossible.

>>18466450
How do you make money from Hyperledger fabric, the absolute industry standard for hybrid cloud decentralized corporate blockchains ?

Vitalik has 30 more IQ points than Sergey

>>18466605
Link is more like GNU Hurd.

>>18466620
How so

>>18466450
I'm going to buy every Pajeet in my billage a Toyota Camra.

>>18466450
>Toyota
>Implying that's a bad thing
Vitalik is a genius savant but sometimes he just sounds so fucking dumb

(((THEY))) STOLE THE CONTRACTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa73pjzWgig&t=13
>>18466663
No cadillac buddy.

>>18466450
yes and im going to hire a small but highly trained elite force in india to spam that faggot chainlink memes and his quotes on it ALL DAY EVERY DAY

>>18466554
>how can a erc token be bigger than ethereum?
There you have it. Literally impossible.
But those retards are all reaming.

>>18466450
I have nearly 40k xrp. If I convert it all to link can I still make it or is it too late? I know I had three years but I believed the jew coin meme and now am down 75%...

>>18466733
By the time LINK pumps the whole market will be pumping. Meaning your jew coin will actually be worth something again. Better to hold instead of taking a crushing loss.

>>18466450
Yes but only nulink

>>18466733
Cut your losses and diversify.

>>18466758
Kek link will have a minipump while every other chinese scam tokens pump +10000%
Just like 2017
We will witness many linkie suicides after the bull is over and the mighty bear takes its grip once again

>>18466450
sergay betrayed us all, we were supposed to be all in this together

>>18466450
You hear Toyota pretty often actually. They have some great racing cars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

>>18467739
I think that's his point. Toyota is one car company, but you can talk generally about cars without mentioning it.

>>18466450

replace Toyoda with Lada and that would have been a 10/10 meme

Vitalik probably did not want to catch the heat.....

>>18467759
When Vitalik talks about Chainlink, it's almost always in a negative light. He's not duplicitous enough to hide his feelings in interviews either, and he always comes off like a seething little code monkey when Chainlink is mentioned.

>>18466450
fixed*

>>18466450
Toyotas a great car though. What did he mean by this?

>>18467913
thats the problem he compared it to a good car..... should have said Lada its more slav

>>18466504
>this is the peak
The fact that you're even more deluded than them shows that their delusions isn't the peak

>>18466504
>ID: OUFAgr0T
>FAgr0T
Check's out.

>>18466450

better version

>>18466513
>Sergey will be bigger than Vitalik

>>18468029
Bahaha This.
Toyota is huge, If Link is a Toyota Hilux then it's massively bullish.

>>18466507
Nice fallacy. ETH makes all other chains obsolete.

>>18466450
link or ethereum don't even work in theory

https://youtu.be/K1N9yE_I1ng
https://youtu.be/QJ1DTeexpvA
https://youtu.be/MwGRfJ0L5eQ
https://youtu.be/moA7KASx3WE
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3265157
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3160279

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/ec/ed/00/e98927885825b9/CA3013173A1.pdf
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/35/6f/c7/a253a63926e1b7/WO2018078584A1.pdf
https://youtu.be/mOLiwmudaws
https://nakasendoproject.org/Threshold-Signatures-whitepaper-nchain.pdf
https://youtu.be/GUg2mocV9TI
https://medium.com/coinmonks/access-external-data-from-bitcoin-smart-contracts-2ecdc7448c43
https://nchain.com/app/uploads/2018/09/Rabin-Signatures-in-Bitcoin-Cash.pdf
https://youtu.be/5_G0mY9Pqz4
https://medium.com/@Stas33496115/bitcoin-script-engineering-part-ii-ba8095f093c0

https://youtu.be/UFDCC6sRDr0
https://youtu.be/hbDumta-yXQ
https://youtu.be/0eXmW9jJIHw
https://youtu.be/EWSfCI-VRLc

>>18468304
Drns

>>18468338
same

>>18466507
>what is corda
>what is hyperledger

Honestly what did he mean with that? Toyota? LINK is the Toyota of crypto?

>>18466450
Hey guys it's your board dunce here. Why would a erc20 token (that means that it's a sub-protocol of ethereum itself, right) ever be more valuable than the parent chain?

>>18468392
Ever heard of WBTC?

>>18466507
It's not even a critical dapp, it's a bitconnect tier scam.

>>18468467
Yes but that doesn't mean I understand it at all besides the fact that it's a wrapped bitcoin.
It looks like WBTC still has a fraction of the mcap of Eth. How could it possibly have a bigger mcap?

>>18468369
> what is polkadot
> what is etc

>>18468520
In theory it could, Eth is just a Turing compete platform for coins but it's essential for gas and i think it has more mcap because it's older than all coins and speculators trade it and some even use it to transfer value or use tornado.cash for privacy transfers..

Intel SGX is a central point of attack. LINK ISN’T DECENTRALIZED.
Critical exploits have already been found in Intel SGX: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Guard_Extensions
What the FUCK do you think would happen if banks and fortune 500s employed LINK? Spoiler: hackers would undoubtedly exploit the LINK network, intercept and alter data, profit and/or destroy.
They haven’t “solved the oracle problem” they’ve probably just created new problems.
Biz holds and shills LINK to feel like elite hackers, but you guys are actually fucking retarded. Wasn’t their whitepaper plagiarized too?
Stay poor if you hodl this long term. It’s a piece of garbage with an ERC20 token associated with Ethereum which can’t scale to meet enterprise needs and maybe never will.
Linkies are *actually* retarded. Your bags are Pajeet-tier and going nowhere. No important project will ever use LINK because it’s WAY too easy to program *MORE SECURE* internal oracles / oracle nodes.
Oracles are not difficult to program like blockchains. You’ve all been sold techie buzz words and think you’re smart/hackers/etc.
Unfortunately, you gentlemen are shilled bag holding retards trying to swim in waters you don’t understand.
Sell now because LINK isn’t secure, nor will it be adopted by actually important projects.

>>18468693
No, take that back fren

>>18468693
>Spoiler: hackers would undoubtedly exploit the LINK network, intercept and alter data, profit and/or destroy.
How do they do that I thought it was untamperable?

T. Tradesman anon

>>18468693
>what is town crier
Secure hardware that doesnt run on Kiktel is the future. Saying intel SGX zomg is literally fud

>>18469044
What is untamperable is what gets into the chain. Everything above it is ffa.

>>18468693
Says the guy who didnt buy at $1 or some old fags at .01. Haha, kys. Who cares. Link Marines are the first in and the last out. Sure, maybe dont buy link before you buy food but if i had to choose between shit paper and link. I would go with link anytime. Link can moon, shit paper just goes to uranus. <drops the mic>

>>18466450
Why yes...
Yes it will....

>>18468392
Is Android more valuable than Google?

>>18466630
>IT monkey
>smarter than a philosopher
People that don't read books are unironically subhuman

>>18466450
Link runs on ETH you morons. You should hold both link, eth, ripple, and monero.

This level of delusion should make the rest of you understand that it's time to sell.

>>18469847
Very bad analogy

>>18466733
Get in on a LINK dip. That'll at least recover you 10% or more.. We can't k ow for sure what will happen. I do think LINK has the best looking chart in crypto right now, so I don't wanna be a seller, but so much could go wrong right now that I'd be patient.

That said I'd 100% rather be holding LINK than xrp.. Just try to time when you can switch over well. Trust techincals to tell you when to do that

>>18469449
>it's real

Hahaha fucking retards ITT
YOU CAN'T RUN YOUR OWN LINK NODE ORACLE! Only whitelisted 'sponsors' can do it atm. That's the reason why Vitalik, the god of decentralization, hates Chainlink so much. It is advertised as decentralized oracle, but actually it is centralized as shit, because Joe Normal investor can't run a node, as i said only whitelisted sponsors can. Link is only one of many centralized oracles.

>>18466554
>>18466605

Long story short: LINK token collateralizes all value contained in ETH smart contracts. With staking and mass adoption in derivatives, all real value of the world of functioning smart contracts lies in LINK, not ETH. This is by simple necessity of people having to buy and lock up enough LINK to collateralize data input for contracts— by simple supply and demand, LINKs value rises to reflect all the value of chainlink-secures smart contracts. Ethereum becomes a clearing area for chainlink processes and smart contracts execution, with modest price for the ETH coin. Remember that ethereums value is a mere reflection of the fair price to run code on the EVM. It is not intended to be a store of value, which is how it is being treated by speculators. Remember that fundamentals always trump speculative value— vitalik wasn’t joking or being unreasonable when he said ETH should be 10-15 dollars.

>>18466504
he's ours all right

>>18468392
How could internet be worth more than computer it runs on?

>>18466450
Wait, wait, wait! Hold up! Link is like Toyota???

According to Coinbase, Link at a current price of $3.27 has a market cap of $1.1 billion. Toyota has a current market cap of $169 billion. That means that even if Link got as big as Toyota, 1 Link would only be worth $502. That's only half of what you people promised me. You told me that Link would be $1,000 EOY. I'm ruined.

>>18468392
>>18471373
How could car company be worth more than the road?

>>18466450
Well, Toyota is shit.

>>18466554
BLOCKCHAIN AGNOSTIC

>>18466450
should i trade all my BTC and XRP for LINK fuck man i somehow dont believe the hype

>>18472095
yes

>>18472095
Nah mane. Go all in xrp, im sure it will moon anyday now lmao.

>>18472378

>>18466507
>>18466605
>>18466619
>>18472026
>>18472068

no, it's a centralized dapp with 0 users

>>18466450

sure its great to have luxury brands like benz, bmw, jag and so on - but just look at the revenue of those compared to toyota

>>18468304
>craig wright
kek

>>18466513

>>18466630
For context, that's about the difference between a nigger and an average human.

Massive.

>>18469970
>"Philosopher"

Throughout history there have been a small handful of decent philosophers despite every other retard taking a swing.

Almost all "philosophers" are Sam Harris tier blue-pilled brainlets who don't read and are obsessed with deranged thought-experiment arguments like determinism vs free will (it doesn't fucking matter you have to act the same regardless).

Being a "philosopher" by degree is not impressive in the least.

>>18473426
So are you saying that maybe Sergey isn't lying when he says his oracles are decentralized, he's just too low IQ to realize his own tech is centralized vaporware?

>>18466450
if you buy eth you bet on eth
if you buy link you bet on eth, hyperledger, corda, cipherium, hashgrap, polkadot, oracle, google, offchain labs, baseline protocol

>>18468384
Toyota is the best car brand. It always works and never breaks. If he is trying to insult LINK then he failed miserably. Toyota is fucking awesome and the best choice in all vehicle tiers where they are active. Tourist vans in all situations including SHIT/non-existant roads? Toyota. Off-road? Toyota. City shitbox? Toyota. Racing? Toyota. You name it and Toyota offers the best value for money. Vitalik gave a compliment if anything.

>>18473473
no, you're betting on centralized vaporware with 0 users.

>>18473473
correct
LINK is betting on DLT having a future.
If DLT fails to become relevant outside an insular crypto space, then LINK fails and >>18474000 (you) will be happy

>>18467939
Completely misunderstood your boyfriend vitalik. No wonder you don't hold chainlink

>>18466450
I think they will rise together. One needs the other.

>>18472887
>look guys i made my own meme to catch on because i hate that darn ol Sergey so much!!!
Stop forcing this worst fud of all time. Actually cringe you shared it on twitter and replied to vitalik + speak for him, simp harder

>>18468392
1- chainlink doesn't run on the ETH blockchain, chainlink has it's own decentralized bnetwork of chainlink nodes.

2- you are confusing the protocol with the token that is used to query the chainlink network.

3- chainlink is blockchain agnostic, the token runs on ETH, but any blockchain with solidity smart contracts can query the chainlink network

>>18474100
Chainlink is centralized vaporware. That's literally a proven fact, not FUD.

>>18474207
>2- you are confusing the protocol with the token that is used to query the chainlink network.
No, it has a CENTRALIZED network of nodes KYCed by Sergey himself. There is no sybil resistance whatsoever. None (other than KYC)

>>18474207
>3- chainlink is blockchain agnostic, the token runs on ETH, but any blockchain with solidity smart contracts can query the chainlink network
No, not at current time, 3 years later after having stolen $100mil+ in funds from investors.

But you knew that didn't you? Why are you lying to pump your bags? It's pathetic.

>>18474255
>No, it has a CENTRALIZED network of nodes KYCed by Sergey himself. There is no sybil resistance whatsoever. None (other than KYC)

false, anyone can create a node and be listed on the explorer using LINKPOOL. also you are confusing decentralized and distributed,

>No, not at current time, 3 years later after having stolen $100mil+ in funds from investors.

chainlink is being integrated in other blockchains as we speak, for exaample just recently it was integrated in Kusama, and it is also integrated n otehr blockchains via adapters.

When it comes to investment then there are many rules and one of the famous rule is that don't put all eggs in one basket ie never invest all your savings into one project or cryptocurrency but the ratio & amount to invest depends on you whether you want long term or short term return or safe investment etc, during my research for good altcoin I have come across a project called trias, it is one of the best blockchain projects around with real-world use cases. It is being used by large multinational companies and is generating revenue from its products as well.

>>18474436
that's the strategy if you want to pay for your family yearly trip.


if you wnat to become filthy rich with fuck you money, YOU have to bet on that ONE basket

>>18469449
>yet
link just listed on his exchange its obvious he will shill it at least a little, and if its so great how come he still doesn't own any? surely winklebros would understand how important it is to buy at ground levels

>>18474515
That guy is an Indian who just got done rioting in the street for food I’d just let em be

You are all pajeets. One way or the other.

>>18466450
>erc20 token
>bigger than ethereum

>>18475019
Which is what I said... one needs the other. They will both explode simultaneously.

>>18475097
I did say that din#T I

>>18466450
LINK Is heavily undervalued at this point
We are early.

>>18475097
How >>18475097 gets my id is yet to be cleared

>>18475896
DonÄt clear it... i have the impression that very skilled russians are here. I lie to work with russians as long as they bow and admit that without the us and uk they would have never won ww2

>>18470467
Imagine spouting this blatantly untrue FUD

>>18466630

And 30 less EQ points, which makes him unrelateable to people who matter

>>18476050
literally a proven fact

>>18475877
it's a top5 coin (if you count the 650,000,000 unlocked tokens in Sergeys wallet), and it has basically 1-2 users, and hasn't even started working on decentralization.

It is BY FAR the most ridiculously overvalued coin/company in the world.

Imagine a company with 1 (shitty) customer and 20 employees being worth $2bil USD.

>>18476103
I like Viatlik, He is a smart ass person, who did it himself. I admire Vitalik even. And also Segey. Sergey was hired on to the next etc token scam. Yet it turned out to not be a scam after all.... Sergey is also good. So Who do I bash now?

>>18468369
>>18468541
they are irrelevant things because transactions involving the link token are not settled upon them

>>18466450
yes
eth is basicaly a chainlink settlement database

>>18472887
>someone actually spent time creating this "meme"

>>18470467

You and Vitalik are retarded for thinking it’s possible to have complete decentralization. It might have been possible back in 2010-2015 before anyone knew about this shit, but now that big players are in the game running a fully decentralized network from the get go is a bad move that leaves you prone to attacks and hostile takeovers.

>>18466450
LET'S FUCKING GET THIS STRAIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL!
You all go apeshit on Vitalik, because he once tweeted "i don't think oracles are worth 34mils" or something like that.
You all clanged onto one fucking tweet 3 fucking years ago and you all in your little braindead world think that Vitalik somehow hates ChainLink. You all run same shit onto him for three years, just because one tweet.
I recently saw same Vitalik bashin over three years tweet, again. Are you this stupid people?
Vitalik literally sits together at big ETH conferences with Sergey all the time. They always have great discussions, and you come here again, telling everyone same stupid thing you saw three years ago and it wasn't even ChainLink criticism. it was criticism toward brailet investors pouring millions into anything. Vitalik is stuck in his own creation, where everything got quite stuck. He's busy persuading people to roll out update, oh no but you can't unsee that 32mil tweet.
How stupid are you, people?

>>18473473
+ openlaw, docusign, digital asset and swift

Biggest no brainer in all of the crypto sphere

>>18466450
>will the internet be worth more than the electricity it runs on?

>>18476227
>Hyperledger.
Really? Hperledger does use LINK.

>>18476345
Look at current server farms to support google, amazon yahoo, imb servers, etc...
YES, THEY RUN ON POTATOES!
How stupid are you?

>>18476515
Let me make this easy for you. You apologize and run away. Far away. And all is well.

>>18476287
>it’s possible to have complete decentralization
Chainlink has no decentralization at all, hence is valueless. Learn to code brainlet, you have dunning–kruger syndrome

>>18476342
literally proven fake partnerships

>Swift
Chainlink won some competition 3 years ago, literally not a single news since -> PROVEN FAKE
>Google
1 blog post 10 months ago, never used on mainnet, nothing else since -> PROVEN FAKE
>Oracle
10 months ago, gravelcoin, fernando demoted -> PROVEN FAKE
>E&Y
recent news, will be proven fake soon
>Microsoft
recent news, will be proven fake soon

>>18466450
Link will be bigger than BTC

>>18475019
>Really stupid
>Can't come to terms that a platform agnostic software can outgrow a platform

I'm glad retards like you exist. It indicates to me that we're still in the early stages of crypto. In the early stages of the Internet web browsers were highly valuable paid software. Now they're free and a dime a dozen. They're simply the platforms. No web browser is worth more than Amazon, Facebook or Google. Eth is Netscape. Soon it too will be a dime a dozen.

I swear I had a dream about Vitalik today but I can't remember what it was very clearly. All I know is that it involved riding a handlebar zipline down a skyscraper, which resembled the LINK logo.