/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18452605
This tbqhwyl

Can someone explain to me if I am taking crazy pills and recording technology was drastically reduced in the new timeline I find myself in? What actually is this pathetic bullshit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOhxz9n73Y0

I mean what tf is this 10FPS 360p video offered by a national trillion dollar sports league?

Also can anyone explain how fucking Skype became Zoom and now everyone is using Zoom and they are a 200 dollar company next week? I mean seriously what the fuck did I time travel too?

Looking into some Bain Capital (what there is to invest in anyway). Thoughts?

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/bcsf/profile

Where are the oil bros?

>>18452627
Would be funny if earnings were down and still pumps.

Reminder: Dump incoming at 6:45 EST when JPM shows how fucked the credit markets are.

Rate my portfolio as of right now
50% RTX
15% Air Canada
5% Antibe
10% BAM
10% CARR
10% KTOS
5% NET
Yes that's 105% deal with it

where the feds buying yesterday?
HYG went down yesterday. also that atrocious volume we get the past weeks is not a good sign for a bull recovery...

>>18452642
Definitely some backroom shit happening here. So much intrigue! Watch Trump go on Twitter and order these guys to keep production up.

>>18452639
Bane?

>>18452627
Boring

>>18452642
This is illegal. But it could buy enough time for a pump.

>>18452637

basically the entire internet is super slow right now because everyone is trying to stream video at 4k/120fps

skype was eaten by Microsoft and it became Lync and now Teams
or maybe Lync became Skype and then that became teams

>>18452660
where is ur cash?

>>18452663
the Fed is only buying when they need to. if you need more detailed information you have to send them a fax

>>18452643
There are companies on the market getting pumped that literally have no customers or employees right now and keep lying about things returning to 100% by june. Anything goes in clown world.

There's no good cheapies left

>>18452688
iktf. Please crash.

WAIT WAIT WAIT
HOLD THE FUCK UP
I've just been doing some math n shit.
I could buy a bunch of stock using up to 50% margin. Then sell monthly calls about 2-5% above the current price, which turns out to be enough to cover the daily margin interest, while still collecting divvies and and the few percentages up each month????????
WHAT THE FUCK!

>>18452684
>cash
absolutely none at close, why would I hold cash at close? stocks only go up, cash doesn't go up

>>18452688
T

Pill pill me on MTNB

Pandemic
Everything Bubble
Movie Theaters going bankrupt
Airlines making 0 profits for at least half a year - year
Hotels making 0 profits for at least half a year - year
Retail making shit profits for at least half a year - year
Restaurants making shit profits for at least half a year - year
Markets go up

>>18452688
Everything is moving huge percentages anyway so it doesn't matter. It's the percentage that matters, the rest is psychological.

>>18452698
Any time you think you've figured out a money printer strategy invariably you're simply not considering all the variables at play.

>>18452688
>Implying the time of cheapies has gone
WRONG! If you wait, the True Cheapies will come.

>>18452709
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>>18452698
>buy stocks on margin to sell calls against
Absolutely nothing can go wrong if stocks only go up

>>18452709
oh yeah keep going baby
whisper something to me that isn't priced in yet
I need more FUD than that if I'm really going to PUMP
tell me about how everyone is going to default on their debt at the same time, and how yellowstone is going to erupt

>>18452664
>drawing his own reaction images
Calling that based would be downplaying it. Keep the OC coming, we need it.
>>18452600
I actually want some bankos or finance... are those are just band plays or your favorites?

>>18452698
Oh no! Don’t do that!

>>18452709
Okay, now what's the bear case?

>>18452642
>>18452668
>Definitely some backroom shit happening here.
Absolutely. That's why I think the oil doomer case of zero or negative prices is so absurd. There is a ton of stuff that can be done to prevent that scenario. Mutually agreed international cuts are only one of several cards that can be played. Zero dollar oil is totally unacceptable for the whole world. Wars have been started over a lot less than that.

>>18452660
>15% Air Canada
Scary but baller. I'm also thinking about starting a position in Air Canada this week. And DOO. DOO is BRP Inc. They make sea doos, ski doos, and are the dune buggy of choice for big races like the Dakar. Stock got massacred in the crash (-75% peak to recent valley) and I like it for a bounce trade at the minimum.

>>18452713
>>18452719
Well, the risk is if the stock goes down and they margin call you. But if you only margin 50% or less, then it would need to drop more than 50% before they call your ass. If you have some solid ETF like SPY, QQQ, VYM, VTI, the chance of it hitting that margin call is basically zero, especially if you only margin something like 10 or 25%.

>tfw I lost faith and reduced my holding when it was clear japan was about to go up in flames
WEWWW I didn’t see that bounce coming! Look at the slope on that thing!! I knew animal cross fans were obsessed but how the fuck?? Well I’ll jet be happy with the gains I got, I did buy a little back on the dip.

Remember.

Bad news = good for the stock market. Prepare for a PROPER BVLL SVRGE tomorrow lads.

I milked an asian girl today. A 21 year old single mom of a 6mo baby she was separated from. Her breasts never stopped producing milk so they were enormous and hard and she complained about them sometimes leaking.

I jokingly said to her "well that happens to cows too, but they feel better when milked". She didn't think it was funny but texted me later embarrassed. She said she tried it and milk came out, but she was too shy to keep doing it. I told her I would be happy to milk her to help her feel better and to my surprise she instantly agreed.

An hour later she was over at my place.

I milked her. I killed her fat asian titties like udders. I stood behind her and hugged onto her while massaging and groping her breasts in the shower as milk at first dripped, then squirted and sprayed from her nipples. She was making cute moaning sounds and she told me it felt amazing and so relieving. I told her I wanted to taste it and she agreed.

I drank from her. Mouthfuls of asian breastmilk.

Bros. The taste. The taste. I have never sprang a more powerful boner more quickly.

We fucked. Bareback while milk dribbled on my chest. It was primal. I had to breed her. I did breed her. I came inside of her and held her down whole I sucked on her tits some more. I forced her to feel my jizz soaking into her cervix while I drained her titties. It was surreal.

We are meeting again next week for a "checkup" to message her breasts and help "express" the breastmilk. She thanked me for doing a good job and didn't say anything about the fact I pinned her down and practically raped her.

Then I opened my portfolio and say I also made about $5000 in gains. So it was a pretty good day.

How was yours?

>>18452709
Why do you hate free money and cheap stocks?

>bought stocks for just 200 out of 10k on march 23 because i thought they would go down more but it was the bottom

>>18452733

Yield curve inversion

>>18452642
I love how fiscal conservatism and the ghosts of "free market" shitheads disappeared instantly when boomer stock portfoilios were threatened.

>>18452698
If the stock goes to infinity overnight, you make only 2-5%. If stock goes down a lot, you get margin call. Covered calls on margin divvy stock is peak boomer though so I have to give you credit for that. All you need to add is selling crash puts for "yield".

>>18452744
Just for reference, I was thinking of buying a high dividend ETF on margin, but the dividends did not cover the margin interest so you didn't attain any growth. But by selling calls, suddenly your margin interest is covered and you keep the divvies. This might only work since volatility is high, if it were lower then OTM calls would hardly yield anything.

>>18452767
Sounds pretty based desu.
No amount of daily gains will ever replace the feeling of
>her

>>18452794
It stopped when the black man got out of office and the orange man came in.

>>18452767
That sounds incredibly hot
>tfw no gook milkies

>>18452709
>Everything short term problems
Central banks world wide providing liquidity and cash to overcome that issues

WHY IS THE FUCKING MARKET NOT GOING DOWN FURTHER AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18452803
>limited to 2% ish upside over the course of a month
>worst case is margin called if it drops too much, which can be mitigated by using less margin and buying stable ETFs
Seems pretty solid to me.

>>18452730
the Bank BBA and BBB free money trade is over. You missed the easy money. This is now earnings gambling extravaganza, the data shows 2 of the mains bac c jpm wfc will pump and 2 will dump

>>18452808
wtf is your margin interest? IBKR has sub 2% margin rates.

Notice BlackRock inc. aka the fed aka Oy vey are buying shares in all stocks? Don’t believe me? Just go look up stock shares bought by BlackRock in the last 4 months. Go ahead, I’ll wait..

>ahhh that first sip of the morning

Where my /coffeesquad/ and, we checking in?

>earning season is upon us
>companies are likely to be reporting a shitty quarter due to coronavirus
>dow futures up
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

>>18452869
oh my goodness
it's unbelievable
do you have any more hot tips

>>18452872
I'll go put the kettle on now

>>18452838
>Central banks world wide providing liquidity and cash to overcome that issues

That's the long term problem ;) Shoulda just let the markets come to their proper place. Oh well, too late for that.

>>18452875
bad earnings is the most priced in of all the priced in things

>>18452861
Fidelity, they have super shitty margin rates. So bad I was thinking of opening an IB account just for their sweet margin rates.

>>18452869
Another reason why this market won go down anymore. Fink just wont allow it

>>18452838
Hahaha, Scott Adams was trying to figure out how printing more money won’t cause inflation because demand dropped. This all entertains me to no end. The best thing that could happen is people who get Trump bucks buy stocks and take ownership of companies.

>>18452897
why isn't the good news of january/february already priced in?

>>18452894
Who cares about long term issues in our current society? We wouldn't have democracy if we would care a bit.

The Chad Nikkei

>>18452875
Banks want their money, and they will get it anyway they can.

The truth is the market could have defied to the real economy and done this any time enough people wanted it to. It was restrained based on the idea that there would be consequences. There aren't any now.

>>18452875
Bad earnings everyone expects won't move the price much.

>>18452900
>He thinks this is the bottom.
It’s a whole new ballgame kid.
GL
>>18452890
if you cash app me

>>18452925
but why UP?

>>18452930
Enough indicators that we wont retest the lows back a few weeks, can it dip again? Yeah sure, nothing goes down or up in a straight line. But keep spoucing about muh debt and liquidity crises and what not.

Risked 200 dollars on JPM moving the way I want it to today. Probably have a very narrow window after open to make money instead of losing it all... now this is podracing

>>18452945
Lmao the average share is held for 20 seconds. You think they’re reflective in any way of company health? Nothing short of outright bankruptcy can make this shit go down

Hello can someone suggest a sector that will have a chase bubble kind of behaviour in the next years?
I don't know what to do do with +40%.
I want the high of the x100
So use your brain.
You say always ''muh high iq'' then use your brain come on. Who cares of +40%

RTX CHADS GET IN HERE
big weeks ahead of us. Fuck bobos

>>18452902
What you are describing is literally inflation.

>>18452962
Then work with leverage and most likely get rekt.

>>18452930
>This isn't the bottom

Kek, bear cope

>>18452962
The bots are getting better. This almost made sense.

>>18452980
Not really, it’s inflation of asset prices but not cost of living expenses or wages or discretionary purchase prices... it’s basically just multiple expansion.

>USA futures up

Another bull run week lads?

>>18452875
Unironically priced in. There can only be good news if they beat expectations. If they fail, people will literally handwave it as temporary coronavirus issues.

>>18452850
Noo I missed free money April!! I hope we get some free May money and not just the sell in May meme.

Last season earnings gambles were a goddamned nightmare. This time... I think might be better for consumer packaged goods.

>>18453001
Isn't that ideal for poorfag investors? Coffee still costs $2, but now one stonk buys 100 coffees when it used to buy 40

>>18452963
But RTXfags want it to go down deeper right now for more opportunities and then moon when war tensions flare up.

I feel like SPY 300 by EOM, but at the same time it feels so wrong to have stocks doing this well when the economy is going to be in the shitter. I think I just buy QQQ and sit on it with a stoploss of 5% or something (since nasdaq will ride shit like Amazon to the heavens).

>>18453013
you aren't a very good investor if you're selling shares to buy coffee (coffee literally grows on trees)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uYVPvtLan0

>>18452923
>Banks are greedy
This is why I bought XLF calls.

bye bye oil

How the fuck does market watch get away with exaggerating this much?

>Goldman Sachs abandons its bearish near-term view on stocks, says the bottom is in

>Our call of the day, from a team of Goldman Sachs strategists led by David Kostin, says the worst of the market rout is behind us. A “previous near-term downside of 2000 [for the S&P 500] is no longer likely. Our year-end S&P 500 target remains 3000 (+8%),” says the team in a note to clients on Monday.

He didn’t say the market rout is behind us and the bottom is in. He leaves the door open for SPX 2100 or lower, hes just saying that his previous projection of 2000 is no longer the most likely scenario, so don’t hold all your dry powder waiting for SPX 2000.

>>18453046
>SPY 300
You are exactly right, because the fed will make it so. However, its not forever, their power will wane, and when people realize there are no jobs to go back to, shit will crash. With no survivors.

>>18453046
The stock market has been completely decoupled from the economy finishing what was ramping up in 2008. All of the money printing and GIBBs is going straight into the market. All other capital options are trash (real estate, bonds, business investment), volatile (bitcoin, commodities), or meme (gold).
Investing or trading portfolios should be weighted like 80+% stocks now.

Yea!
Bull run!
That's more like it!

>>18453064
>Our year-end S&P 500 target remains 3000 (+8%)
8% at from the current price, which is still a -10% year. I seriously doubt SPX will be 3000 EOY, 2500 seems far more likely. I bet they know that, and this SPX 3000 shit is just "public policy" for the plebs.

>>18453071
>All other capital options are trash (real estate
real estate prices have been SOARING in urban areas past 10 years
especially west coast
arguably more of an insane bubble than the stock market. just endlessly rising on absurd speculation. look at how many people are snatching up apartments (and taking out huge mortgages) to open airbnbs. its like 2007. real estate is seen as something that can only go up.
in Seattle, if you want a "mini-studio" (one bedroom apartment with no kitchen, sometimes no bathroom) in a shitty, dangerous part of the city, its usually $1000+
people are paying $1000+ to live in closets with muggers waiting outside.
seattle isnt even that big or that dense

shill me some stocks to hold for 5-10 years

>>18452753
I guess investors have a lot of faith that unemployed sitting at home with nothing to do will be hitting the vidya. I heard it was kinda hard to buy the Switch lately. Is that still true?

>>18453113
I'm scared of buying NIO

I know it's probably the fling-aling-aling stock, but I might get hurt

>>18453113
RTX unironically, you're buying a solid defense contractor bagholding a fantastic civilian air division that's currently not printing money but will in the mid future

$100 EoY

>>18453071
Do... do I buy calls then ?

>>18452872
Hello coffee lad. I'm about to go to sleep. I will /coffeezone/ in the morning.

>>18453013
No, the rich own more stocks; the poor own less. Poorfag slice of the pie becomes smaller.

going to try the wheel meme since im too retarded for regular trading, what am i in for

>>18452875
>I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
You'll even crazier when companies go green on horrific earnings.

>>18453101
I’m not sure. I don’t expect the shutdown to last the full year, and now the fed and treasury are fully on board with doing whatever it takes to keep the economy going through the crisis. If things get mostly back to “normal” whatever that is now, all that Fed support leaves 3000 on the menu.

The Chad dax

>>18453112
Unlike the stock market, real estate demand is going to respond to the weirdness right now. Already the banks are tightening (new) home mortgage requirements because the Fed is going to sit on near zero interest rates for the foreseeable future. I even think that commercial real estate is going to take a huge hit.
Real estate in tech centers like New York, San Francisco, and Seattle will feel this the least. Owning property there long term is basically free money. But everywhere else I just don't see it.
All we are going to get is even more nuts real estate speculation in the major cities and the stock market. That fucks everyone who isn't some big hedge manager.

>>18453101
Yeah also 8% is not bullish, to say they’re abandoning bearish perspective is misleading.

I started with $250 on July 31st 2017. When do I sell bros?

>>18453135
I feel bad for the poor.
They can't invest in anything

>>18453152
keep going

>>18453152
How?

>>18453144
Its about after the shut down. Once the lock down ends, people can leave, but that doesn't mean they will have jobs to go back to. Rent is still due, credit cards are still due, mortgages need to be paid. This is what Trump is really trying to prevent, thats why he is proposing a public works program. We have an unprecedented layoff of nearly 30% of the work force in a month along with near zero consumer spending. This has devastating impacts on the economy, it can't just be turned back on. The Fed can pump for a while but eventually the house of cards must fall, they either print us into hyper inflation or they have to let the market correct to its real value.

>>18453175
>they have to let the market correct to its real value
The only way that happens is if the Fed raises interest rates. But that would kill the zombies and you haven't seen real unemployment until that happens.

Should I buy marathon or is it fucked?

>>18453164
Mostly SPY calls whenever I felt lucky. I didn't even really work that hard with it just whenever I felt like we were in a dip I'd buy some. Since the market was just going up for the most part it worked out. Bought some SPXL and SOXL at the end of March during this big dip since I didn't want to lose it all in case we kept going and so far that has panned out as well.
>I have almost no idea what I'm doing

>>18453175
"America Works" Does trump watch netflix?

>>18453056
Oil is fine.

>>18453180
By any account they should be fucked, but they keep going up

>>18453190
>using Chinese spyware
Lmao

>>18453190
meme cat would make a great PM

>>18453187
Yes. Everything is fine.

oh no. oh no no no
is the 2800 party over already?
did we, the bullbros, get altogether too cocky??

>>18453190
Zoom joins Uber and Tesla as an unholy overrated tech trifecta
Great for shorting but jesus don't go long.

>>18453150
>Real estate in tech centers like New York, San Francisco, and Seattle will feel this the least.
id argue they'll feel this the most short-term, because their value is the most inflated. they're the centers of speculation.
those properties will be intensely valuable longterm, but all the speculators who bought them the past few years will be fucked. half these properties are mortgaged to hell, snapped up as quickly as possible by fucking morons. they paid obscene prices with money they didnt have. they saw the graph and said, "IT ONLY WENT UP."
im looking at zillow lists right now, and seattle real estate prices are already plunging. this is only the beginning

>>18453211
Corona-chan is cute and tamed. Look at the adorable little virus! Lockdowns lift soon, back to work, pent up demand, SPY 420 by 4/20/20

How much money do I need to make with stocke to get two girls(male) at the same time

>>18453214
oh no cock bros
we got too cock

>>18452872
Whats your job that you have coffee so early?

>>18453237
>oh no cock bros
>we got too cock

>>18452872
Right here buddy.

>>18453237
the cock bros will never surrender
we will get even more cock before the night is through

>>18453239
he's a europe

>>18452872
But it’s 9:30 pm anon

>>18452990
>Then work with leverage
maybe I'll try OPTIONS ON BIOTEC

>>18453261
may 1 antibe calls $2 thank me later

>>18453215
I’ve made a lot of money on both Tesla and uber. The key is going long at the right time, fren

Is it time to close oil buys if you bought late last week? We didnt see the pump from the deal, surely it will only go down from here?

>>18453244
imagine cocks having those arms

>>18453282
imagine having cock wrestling matches

>>18453236
no matter how much you pay them, your girl (male) prostitutes will probably end up ignoring you and going to town on each other
that's the risk of getting two of them in the same place at the same time

>>18453175
>they either print us into hyper inflation or they have to let the market correct to its real value.
I don’t know how you’ve come to the conclusion that those are the only two options. Unless you’re one of those ideological obsessives that posts the cape shiller and wheelbarrows full of Weimar reichsmark.

There is no one but that one libertarian who is willing to stop the government from finding every little trick to keep the car rolling until we can restart the engine. If they can grant grant forbearance to every renter, and pay the landlords some sort of other stimulus check.

I’ve also heard some ask for these months to just be thrown out, that they extend their mortgages out another 3 or however many months and finish paying it off then.

The normies have now swallowed the narrative that fauci is being unreasonable and they should be allowed to go back and resume their daily lives. They’ve forgotten about the drudgery and are dreaming about going back to blow money at dairy queen and dave and busters. They’re dreaming about making a down payment on that rad ATV, and once they see the prices of gas... fuck they’re definitely taking that road trip to Disney.

And hey, you know how the government is trying to award grants for companies that are keeping their employees on? Well why not unveil new “forgivable loans” for companies that increase hiring when the shutdown is over!

Because if the voter doesn’t care about the debt, they can keep piling it on. And the American voter is largely made up of boomers who don’t actually care about the consequences, right leaning folks who want to give trump everything he needs to make the economy a rocket ship, and left leaning folks who also don’t have much of a problem with government spending if its veiled in the language of protecting the worker and the vulnerable.

>>18453313
what's the optimal number of futa for an orgy then

>>18453325
for me, it's zero
you're going to have to run your own experiments though, it's different for everyone

>>18453282
>imagine cocks having those arms
girl I’m gonna beat that pussy up

>>18453323
Shit
I think I just convinced myself.

It’s QE but the whole country is on board with it. We’ll still be the best economy on the planet, so there will still be enough demand for USD and T-bills to keep from “hyperinflation” or running out of cash.

And everyone will keep devaluing their currencies against the USD, so it’ll still have significant purchasing power and be highly sought after.

I’ve gotta give it to the boomers. They know how to keep from ever facing the consequences. Magnificent bastards!

>>18453236
$1000 per girl for 48 hours of time, only hard limits are blood and scat. If you're good with a camera you can make much of the money back from selling it on manyvids.

t. trap pornstar

>>18452768
>bioanal

>>18453237
>Bear
>Bull
Nobody beats the cock.

futures lookin good

>>18453369
>t. trap pornstar
pics

>>18453369
>Trap
Get gassed tranny

>>18452688
Try these:

PDS
KOS
NGD
FSM

>>18453323
>>18453367
Ok but did you consider 30 million unemployment and thousands of small businesses closed and no income to spend? Its a chicken and egg problem. No jobs because no spending, and no spending because no jobs.

>>18453404
Yes I did consider that and did point out some possible suggestions. You might have skipped over those because I stupidly made a fuckhuge wall of text.

Hey idiots, Zwipe just went up 15%

>>18453394
no whoremoans faggot.

>>18453323
It's important to separate the Federal government debt from the Fed monetary policy expansion.
The federal government will end up spending several trillions of dollars before all of this is done: that debt is financed by selling treasuries.
in the case of selling treasuries, people are buying those treasuries with cash, so there is not any money creation.
For the fed balance sheet, that is money creation; you can think of this like the fed hitting the "buy" button on a brokerage account with (almost) unlimited funds. In this case, the inflationary effects should be limited to only certain asset classes. There is also the eventual expectation that the fed will eventually sell the assets back (within the decade), and reduce the balance sheet again.

On top of that, the easing of lending restrictions means that more money generation could happen if businesses and individuals start borrowing money from banks again. This isn't really happening much yet, there aren't many loans being taken out due to uncertainty. But if this lending eventually kicks off, it will be the source of the bogeyman inflation. Not the federal government spending or the federal reserve purchasing desks

>>18453183
do you buy SPY calls that expire like the next day? or are you buying long calls like 1 month out? how far above the current SPY price are you getting the strike value? ive noticed i maek the most money buying calls taht are ending like the next day, but its risky as fuck because if it doesnt pump you lose everything

the fuck is priced in at this point? A V-shaped recovery? A Nike swoosh shaped recovery? No recovery? The fed has distorted my (typically poor) ability to make any prediction on where the fuck the market is going

The rally had way less volume than the dump, there's no enthusiasm behind it. We still bear.

>>18453367
>We’ll still be the best economy on the planet
What defines the "best economy"? GDP? It's fucking meaningless to most of the people who are swimming in debt and misery even after studying. The fruits of the "best economy" are not going to your pockets.

>everyone will keep devaluing their currencies against the USD
Almost all currencies float you retard

Also, USD is supported atm by other countries selling usd denoted assets. Also deflation is bad for US in this crippled economy. Thats why Fed Launched a repo facility to provide dollars to foreign central banks hoping that they stop selling.

>>18453152
also is this really all investment profit or did you add more money over time? click on "all" for proofs plz

>>18452767
LARP but still got hard
Not even gay

This market is making me mad, "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" has so much truth to it, jesus fucking christ. At this point I wish we'll have a fucking collapse just to prove my point.

>>18453436
whats your favorite platform to view live trade volume?

>>18453436
Also: pumps during open market failed. Had to be done on the futures.

>>18453429
>implying the fed will EVER meaningfully reduce its balance sheet.

>>18453451
>the market can stay irrational longer than "you" can stay solvent
the key word here is the word "you" and not "I".

>>18453429
>The federal government will end up spending several trillions of dollars before all of this is done: that debt is financed by selling treasuries.
Who the fuck would buy them? You'd have to raise interest rates

>>18453451
theres nothing fundamentally wrong with the economy, this is an entirely artificial destruction. there will be some lasting damage but its not like everything just imploded, people are being forced to stay home and not go to work, which means they have no money to spend. as soon as they are able to go back to work there will be some consumer spending. not back to normal but it will trickle back. feds will bailout all industries to make sure jobs dont disappear. betting against the fed is dumb

>>18453470
Yeah, me, thanks for reminding that, it's not that my balance is visibly cut by 80%

>>18453001
>Not really, it’s inflation of asset prices but not cost of living expenses
>>18453001
>but not cost of living expenses
This does not happen yet because money printing goes into bonds purchasing and stock market. But Ova the time it will flow into everyday goods and services.
This is why you shoulda have 20 pro cent in silver-- 20 pro cent in bitcoin and 10 pro cent in gold.
The rest in stocks

>>18453434
>all theropods except one
>zero sauropods
>no pence

Jurassic park is done for

>>18453468
why wouldn't they?
we were getting pretty nicely unwound from 2008 before this whole shebang kicked off.

I think they will unwind more aggressively in 2023~? period compared to the 2011-2019 period


>>18453483
>who would buy treasuries
where did you wander in from, little buddy?

>>18453483
People with a lot of money buy treasuries. It's the safest way to hold cash. FDIC only insures the 1st 250k in an account which is pennies for the rich.

>>18453425
I'd hit it

at what time will the earnings come out today?

>>18452709
If everyone just keeps larping, everyone makes money. It‘s the perfect system.

>>18453500
The Fed tried to unwind, then we had the repocalypse, we dipped in late 2018, Trump cried then Jerome bent over by cutting rates and giving us not-QE. Same thing will happen next time.

>>18453436
Have you considered that the massive speed and volume of the crash may have largely been due to the forced liquidation of the "shadow banking" industry?

As Mike Wilson put it in March:

>Without singling out one particular group, these entities also ballooned in size and scope after the financial crisis. Some of this is due to the easy monetary conditions and low borrowing costs provided by central banks while it’s also due to the fact that the traditional banking system is more tightly regulated, which has allowed many of these entities to get bigger in direct lending type activities. Because the shadow banks are unregulated, they may have become too big, which is why they are now having an outsized impact on financial markets as they lever, like last year,and then de-lever like last month.

so I totally missed the bottom and the market will just keep going up and up now until the next crash in ~10 years?

>>18453509
JPM crashing the market at 0645 AM est

>>18453488
Why doesn't the fed just buy everyone out? All these companies are complete failures. Just rename all restaurants to IRS Burger and be done with it.

>>18453538
wondering same here

>>18453527
selling assets isn't connected to interest rates
there is no such thing as repopocalypse.

the tantrum in late 2018 was purely because of interest rates, but that's all it was. the markets throwing a little tantrum. We'll see it again in the future, it always happens, but it doesn't really matter in the long run.

>>18453535
aren't those institutions more associated with lending activities, with less direct interaction with the equity markets?
The dump we had in stocks feb-march was really a "traditional" stock market crash: sentiment went from very euphoric to very fearful, no one was buying, and we went down very fast. But there wasn't anything weird or smoke-and-mirrors about it; people were uncertain about the pandemic and the economy. No reason to stir any extra ingredients into the stew.

>>18453538
Not sure. Might be the biggest dead cat bounce in history.

>>18452627
if a sky rocket in unemployment and general productivity cant even crash the markets, can anything?

>Zero doctors
>Zero economists
>Zero public health experts
>Zero women who aren't related to Trump
>Five men 57 or older
>One Jared Kushner
feeling bullish. buying TQQQ on open

>crude red again
Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHAHA.

>>18453538
The bottom may or may not be past us, but there are still a variety of aftershocks to come. Many businesses will close in the next twelve months, the USD and GBP must adjust to the extreme increase in the money supply, while the deflationary spiral of the massive decrease in the money supply of the entire world will battle it out for victory. Oil has yet to recover, and when the demand for oil returns it will be a test against the growing supply to see whether prices can recover. The US election begins in six months, which is sure to have major implications on the next four years of US fiscal policy.

>>18453596
Bring us home, Jamie. Red day, Red day!

>>18453581
American delusion is stronger than anything

>>18453596
I’d bet within 2 weeks it’s starting to sky rocket. It’s not like policies and turning off the Spicket has actually happened yet.

>>18453451
>literally le big short man
you got what you fucking deserved.

please tell me this was a joke

>>18453439
I'm not sure what point you were trying to make here, can you point out what you actually disagree with?
Yes the best economy is a loose term, maybe best to invest in is better. There's no risk of overregulation like all of europe, or the kind of government corruption that means the government can come in and take your shit like in China. The cops and strong legal system are there to enforce property laws unlike south america or africa. And the stock market doesn't fuck over investors with arbitrary rules like banning selling and shorting or shutting down for weeks at a time so you can't get your money out.

It's a great place for business, and therefore a great place for growth.

>>18453572
It's an explanation for the ferocity and volume. Those unregulated entities leverage themselves up much higher than banks would be allowed to with fewer assets.

>>18453559
I think I'm going to call this TBS, or terminal bull(or bear?) syndrome. These people appear brain-damaged by economic and market events that defy their expectations, and they are so emotionally shocked that they dig in deeper and deny reality.
>this is fake!
>this can't be happening!

>Thinking that the bottom matters at all or that news means anything to the market

>>18453621
Probably. I’ve lost too much money on oil in the last 5 years to speculate anymore. Ironic that I made all the money I lost on oil back with 100 shares of Tesla over the course of two months last year.

>>18453592
>no Pence
doomed to failure
I don't think Trump understands just how much negative sentiment there is about Jared and Ivanka. I don't think people like them, I think trying to force them could hurt his brand
we want Barron instead

>>18453626
again, those were lending institutions involved in the mortgage market. not equities firms

Reminder: 2h 30 min until dump

>>18453645
I think Jerad and Ivanka are great and i’d vote for either one of them to become president.

>>18453581
JUST KEEP LARPING AND BOOOMING AND EVERYONE KEEPS MAKING MONEY!!!!!

>>18453652
dump of what ? pls say brent

>>18453645
They should either combine Jared and ivanka into one, and then add pence to maintain an odd number. Or simply add pence and barron in place of Jared and ivanka. Now that’s a winning team

>Most analysts saying that they are optimistic about the market
Bullbros I'm scared.

>>18453667
Dump all. Credit loss data coming out in JPM q1.

>>18453499
>Ova the time it will flow into everyday goods and services
interesting, is that really--
>have 20 pro cent in silver-- 20 pro cent in bitcoin
hahahahahahahahaha
you really had me going for a second there!

>>18453429
>It's important to separate the Federal government debt from the Fed monetary policy expansion.
you're right, thanks.
>if this lending eventually kicks off, it will be the source of the bogeyman inflation.
Then... they just raise interest rates or lending requirements until inflation is tamed? Assuming that it gets to a dangerous level and there are people with the balls to do it.

>>18453645
>those were lending institutions involved in the mortgage market. not equities firms
I thought it's all sorts of unregulated lending like payday loans and such. These fell into trap of making large risky bullish bets and were forced to sell? Or they had to call in their loans, and those people had to sell?

>>18453681
source? i just need to relax because my puts have lost so much money i cant take it any longer

>>18453116
Yes. It’s globally sold out.

And I would bet it’s more to do with parents needing something to do with their kids now that they’re home all time. No school, no camp, no going over to a friends, no babysitters, no “go see a movie”, no parks...

>>18453670
>Or simply add pence and barron in place of Jared and ivanka.
I like the way you think

>>18453706
well banks are still in charge of the decision to originate loans (or not). so even with the zeroed maintenance requirement, they aren't going to just give out any loan that anyone applies for. You may have seen in this thread or elsewhere the recent headline about JPM increasing their requirement in terms of credit score and down-payment for mortgages.
So even as fewer people are trying (applying) to borrow money, fewer of those are getting approved.
There almost certainly will not be a sudden significant reversal. But even if somehow there is, the Fed should be able to respond. The important thing with inflation/deflation is whether or not they have to tools to create an effective change.
Historically, we only ever see monetary policy falling apart when there is a lack of willingness to use tools, when the government prioritizes income over stability, or when no tools are effective. None of those should be the case in the present.
Remember also, inflation happens as a function of time. even if we do drift away from the 2% (symmetric) annual target, the effects are only felt if we stay at the deviated level for a long time (tens of months). Even if we have little deflationary/inflationary "bumps" lasting a few weeks or months at a time, the important thing is the overall net effect.
So basically, as long as nothing goes all the way off the tracks in terms of the financial system, the Fed should be able to control interest rates. Now they have multiple parts to their mandate, and it is completely conceivable that they might prioritize employment over trying to keep the inflation dial stuck at 2%

>These fell into trap of making large risky bullish bets and were forced to sell?
they would be selling loan instruments or bundled products of loans, again there is no relation to the equities markets.

What's going on with the DAX?

hey german and eu bros,
is there a broker that has API for order placement
on their platform?
I am making some trading algorithm and want to automatize the order placement process. I already have a script for scraping the price so the API for price queries is not important factor.

>>18453720
Credit losses of banks tell about the state of the Industry. JPM Q1 coming out at 0645 AM EST. JPM CEO has been calling out for a bad recession and constantly lowering their estimates. JPM also suddenly "temporarily" halted the issuance of new loans.

https://www.americanbanker.com/articles/jamie-dimon-sees-bad-recession-and-echoes-of-2008-crisis-ahead

>>18453796
The Xetra trading platform from Deutsche Boerse is not active because of some technical difficulties, and I think DAX is always built based on prices current on Xetra.

>>18453796
Everyone forgot about it for a few minutes.
No seriously, what the fuck is that?

>the 2800 futures dream is dead
I wish it had lasted longer
now I feel only pain

>Ahhh that third coffee of the morning and it's not even 10am

Feels good. Where's my coffee crew at?

>>18453706
>interesting, is that really--
>>have 20 pro cent in silver-- 20 pro cent in bitcoin
>hahahahahahahahaha
>you really had me going for a second there!

I would like to see your face when metal/bitcon pegged dollar will be implemented because the inflation is too much and jews gotta unload their silver bags

>>18453827
right here coffee bro

How are all these physical silver holders supposed to sell their silver during the apocalypse? Who's going to buy it?

>>18453821
bullish and priced in

>>18453816
Thank you, interesting!

For 10 days I've tried to deny it. But now my spirit is broken. With my puts expiring on Friday, i have no hope left. Even a sizeable dump wouldn't be enough to make my money back at this point. It would have to be a fucking massive dump, and it just doesn't look it's gonna happen, let alone over the next 3 days. Im gonna lose so much money... It's too late for me, but i hope my fellow Bobros survive. Godspeed frens. Fuck mumus, fuck niggers, and fuck jannies

>*ring ring*
JERONIMO? ARE YOU LISTENING???
>*ring ring*
I FRICKING TOLD YOU LOW BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT NOT BLACK HIGH MORTALITY RATE!!
>*ring ring*
JERONIMO??
>*ring ring*
I KNOW THEY ARE KINDA RELATED BUT I NEED MY BLACKIES TO VOTE FOR ME NEXT YEAR
>*ring ring*
JERON ANSWER ME
>*ring ring*
GOT THOSE MONEY PRINTERS READY GODDAMN. SAD!!

>>18453766
>Fed should be able to control interest rate
how?

So I bought a couple of leap calls on ACB for the fun of it and now it was announced that a split is happening.

This should make my calls go up by all logic, the contract multiplier is fixed right?

>>18453854
apparently there are a bunch of people out there who didn't want to buy silver at 14/oz for the past 5 years, who will suddenly want to buy all of your silver coins for $50/oz in a year...

even in the hypothetical situation where prices do go to those levels, you can bet that almost all of the physical PM holders won't sell even a single ounce, they will just hold onto their stacks while the price goes back down to normal (same thing happened in 2009-2013).
Basically even when the price of PMs does moon, these people have spent a decade in dragon-mode falling in love with their hoard, so they are convinced it will go up way more and none of them want to sell.
It's very psychological.

>>18453880
Read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_funds_rate
Then if something is still unclear, ask a more specific question.

>>18453880
The Fed sets the reserve rate and federal funds rate for commercial banks. The federal reserve requirement rate controls the amount of cash banks must keep on hand (for instance, right now the fed set the reserve rate to 0 so banks don't need to keep any cash on hand and can in theory lend every dollar they have). The fed funds rate is interest rates that banks charge each other when lending to each other.

You lower both of those things and, theoretically, interest rates drop.

>>18453868
Wasn't it the democrats that can't afford to lose even 1 % of the black vote from all the states flipping red?

The country opening back up will be a sell the news event.

>>18453842
Based

>>18453538
Wondering about the same, regardless I'm not comfortable buying now. It'd probably start dropping right after I buy as usual

???

>>18453983
So upset i stopped paying attention to Tesla. Could have made so much this past 5 trading days.

>>18453983
Elon Pump for you. Their China sites + Robotaxi tweet = pump. And the stock will never even pay dividends so all gains go directly back into the stock. I still think Tesla is overrated on fundamentals but hey, why fight what people think. It'll be back to 800 in no time.

>>18454039
>800 in no time.
Im getting a call at 10AM that its 800 by Friday. Think its a bad idea to go all in on it?

NOOOOO GME PLS NO MOOOOORE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

SOXL feels like a superior SPXL

>>18453866
I'm about to double down with the rest of my savings, expiration May 1st. Ill pour out a 40 for you if I make it bobro.

Bros how rich do I have to be to bang models once a week

>>18454046
800 by EOW is highly optimistic, though it could happen depending on bank earnings. I'm thinking 800 by EOM unless the 2nd crash happens. I think 750 EOW tops, but growing over that requires Elon to make more pump tweets. If you got in cheap though you can gamble it.

Right now, I'm thinking about getting calls on cruises because shit like Carnival is going to stay afloat and rebound. Considering doing poorly is priced for next year, I'm just looking for the next jump to ride. Though maybe AMD/NVDA is a better bet.

Hey oil bears. Let's see some serious selling. These little mini dumps in the middle of the night are not accomplishing anything. Give me cheapies or fuck off.

How long until JP Morgan destroys the global economy?

>>18454111
depends on the model and your location.

>>18453766
>they would be selling loan instruments or bundled products of loans, again there is no relation to the equities markets.
Wilson is a well informed guy, I don't think he'd be citing this as a factor in the equity market crash if it had no relation to equities.

I've been doing a little reading on investopedia and wikipedia.

>These include investment banks, mortgage lenders, money market funds, insurance companies, hedge funds, private equity funds and payday lenders, all of which are a significant and growing source of credit in the economy.
>https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shadow-banking-system.asp

>Examples of important components of the shadow banking system include securitization vehicles, asset-backed commercial paper [ABCP] conduits, money market funds, markets for repurchase agreements, investment banks, and mortgage companies
>Bernanke

Investment banks? hedge funds?

>They were also highly leveraged. This meant that disruptions in credit markets would make them subject to rapid deleveraging, meaning they would have to pay off their debts by selling their long-term assets
Wikipedia
>Shadow institutions like SIVs and conduits, ... borrowed from investors in short-term, liquid markets ... On the other hand, they used the funds to lend to corporations or to invest in longer-term, less liquid (i.e. harder to sell) assets.

Who says they only have to invest their borrowed money in mortgage-backed securities or other loan instruments? Why would you think they wouldn't also have equity exposure in their "longer-term asses" that they would have to liquidate in a deleveraging event?

>>18453827
on my first cup and it is 3am here in Washington State. Long live cascadia

>>18452688
TESLA

Does /smg/ use leverage??

>>18454023
>plan on going bullish on tesla
>see market going sideways
>do nothing
>this happens
JUST

>>18454149
I like my leverage like I like my women: contained in ETFs.

>>18454142
You gotta go to work or something? Work security or something? Shit I gotta get to sleep.

>>18454127
Need atleast 7/10 thicc cuties but not hookers, chicks who just started modelling and is ripe to harvest

>>18454149
I used to invest with leverage (3x, only long positions) before the massive dump. Went from 40k to 550k, but then the stocks started tanking and went all the way down to 140k.
So I made a disgusting profit, but could have been a mllionaire if I sold in time.

>>18454162
>>18454212
we have 5x and 7x leverage here

>>18453866
>For 10 days I've tried to deny it. But now my spirit is broken. With my puts expiring on Friday, i have no hope left. Even a sizeable dump wouldn't be enough to make my money back at this point. It would have to be a fucking massive dump, and it just doesn't look it's gonna happen, let alone over the next 3 days. Im gonna lose so much money... It's too late for me, but i hope my fellow Bobros survive. Godspeed frens. Fuck mumus, fuck niggers, and fuck jannies

My bobro, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
>Bank credit numbers today
>Other earning reports this week
>Trump retarded opening taskforce and announcement of not opening shit may 1st
>Bulls out of steam, only able to pump futures
>Retail sales numbers tomorrow
>Easter egg surprise in corona cases throughout Europe today (not much testing during the weekend)
>Current valuation absolutely retarded

>>18453819
>>18453816
>>18453796
DAX and Frankfurt are fine
Eurex is down (futures and derivatives)

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eurex?src=hashEurex&f=live

https://www.eurexchange.com/exchange-en/trading/production-newsboard

they are reopening

How likely is it that futures will tank right before open again?

>>18454139
if there isn't any reasonable way to find out the specifics about these actors, I would tend to still not worry about it too much.

>>18452660
this gif gave my eyes an eppiltic siezure
why must they do this

>>18454290
No one can say desu
This market is mad

>>18452962
>aiming for x100
lmao enjoy getting destroyed

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/13/us/wwe-essential-business-trnd/index.html
WWE deemed an essential service, returns to live televised shows
Wave 2

>>18454290
DAX is already up and a little green

How much is likley metal/bitcon pegged dollar in 10 years?

>>18454269
PetChina? wtf is this shit?

they deleted my Eurostoxx futures I've got one minute before the system went down

I've nothing to do now
booooring

>>18454311
>WWE deemed an essential service, returns to live televised shows
*honk honk*

>>18454311
God Americans are retarded

>>18454322
0

Look at this huge increasing volume! Bullish!

>>18454311
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T STOP TELEVISING PEOPLE PRETENDING TO FIGHT AND HURT EACHOTHER!!11!1!! THIS IS LITERALLY VITAL TO MY LIFE!!! I HAVE DEPRESSION I NEED THIS NOO!!11!

>>18454377
NOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN WRESTELINOOOOSSSS

>>18453071
>Investing or trading portfolios should be weighted like 80+% stocks now
why? Stocks have no value beside the stocks that give value to the society (Chainlink or Google)
real estates are a defaltionary asset and worldwide population keep increasing
The only meme are gold and bitcoin but one may profit just OFF the meme.
The greater fool's theory: I will sell you the meme of becming rich true gold and bitcoin
It's always somenhing you sell

>>18454311
americans deserve worse than covid19

>VIX -3%

Bobo are you okay? Are you okay bobo?

>>18454311
OH FUCK I FORGOT TO INVEST IN WRESTLING!!!!

>>18454300
BUT, it is evidence to the point that the massive volume experienced in the dump is less likely to be seen now in either side of the trade

and that many stocks were only sold so low because these entities HAD to sell to raise cash immediately, which is evidence to the idea that certain stocks, and possibly the whole market, have already seen their lows.

>>18454338
you now remember that Trump has guest starred on WWE
I would also guess, admittedly without any evidence, that a good chunk of the fans are part of his base.

>>18454377
What a stunningly LOW QUALITY POST
I will give those dubs a little checkeroo though

>>18454389
>>VIX -3%
doesn't mean bull market or lateral

>>18454402
In a pre-market crash yeah it means jack shit, but right now it means unironic return to normal when it decreases.

>>18454408
Stop trying to argue with /biz/ - they are still in their bobo dreams.

how does one short the VIX

>>18454419
vol swaps

>>18454419
SVXY

Who's delusional - Bears or Bulls?

Any working CNBC streams?

>>18454438
People who believe in bear-bull dichotomy.

>>18454419
sell OTM options

>>18454386
>Stocks have no value beside the stocks that give value to the society (Chainlink or Google)
True
good point

>>18454402
High volatility kills trends. Low volatility births them.

how

>>18454372
is that a fraction or a percentage?

>>18454455

>>18454276

>>18454438
both. forever and always.

>>18454446
>i think it'll go up
>i think it'll go down
>muh dichotomy

What am I buying today and what are my opinions on it?

>>18454466
DE30 is moving on investing.com charts
but not on by trading platform tho
and dax cfd are freezed at a different time

absolutely weird

>>18454438
Permabulls and Permabears are both idiots. The very wealthy benefit tremendously from the former with little effort and so the government, especially the Fed right now, will bend over backwards for them.
I think it is insane to think that a 3 week bear market would cap off a 10 year bull market. Because literally the only indicator they have is stock prices. We are just now starting to get trickles of Q2 effects.

Long or short on oil today?

>>18454507
i am short, on brent though, strike at 30, only want my money back at this point

>>18454507
Im short USO for rest of month while slowly getting a few of the big integrated supermajor.

>>18454272
That all sounds like extremely bullish news. Time to pump bigly.

>LCI TO FUCKING MOON TODAY

I wanted to start shorting REITs but are the large caps too diversified into communications tech to even be shortable at this point?

I am here just for memes

>>18454527
I think I finally have it figured out. The market is shorting itself, so by going down it's going up.

>>18452767

>>18454560
Kill yourself

holy shit... Maddox is still solving the world's problems... HE DID IT!!!

CORONACRISIS SOLVED!

https://youtu.be/F1eAFEBiQMs

>>18454570
Stop worshipping eceleb you dumb kid.

>>18454569
no I want observe memes

>>18454560
me too

>>18454568
it was hot till she milked them

>>18454581
bro please re-examine your own thinking on this subject

>>18454568
gonna need a name or a source

>>18454578

Today is the ultimate red day

>IMF Economi Outlook Report 0830 EST
>Credit loss reports by banks, JPM call to investors 0830 EST
>Earnings reports flowing in
>4 day stack of backlog corona tests from Europe
>Trump announcing that country will not open May 1st
>NYS Governor Cuomo announces ~5000 likely under reported deaths in NYS (corona induced cardiac arrests)
>2,000 extra coronavirus deaths recorded outside hospitals in UK

Countdown: 5 minutes

>https://www.usdebtclock.org
nice economy burgers

>>18454598
THIS IS IT COME ONNNN TIME TO GET RICH

>>18454598
if today it ends up green, i quit being a bobo until next year at least

>>18454610
Same here. Clown market can’t be beaten.

>>18454581
Imagine being this much of a faggot

>>18454610
>>18454613
don't gamble against Jerome

>>18454610
Same, I'll just give up

I made the new thread early like a bitch

>>18454624
>>18454624
>>18454624

>>18454624
>>18454624
>>18454624

>>18454624
>>18454624
>>18454624

>>18454624
>>18454624
>>18454624

ok

As long as the news is bad the market will stay green. It will flip red when things are back to normal and retail investors put money in again.

so guys, whats gonna happen after we get the q1 earing reports today?

i call 5%+

>>18454640
>yeah sorry nobody made any money this year things are looking grim
>+9%

>>18454574
>you dumb kid
>blogger from ~2000
yeah okay bud
it's hardly worship and he's long been forgotten

>>18454581
this is the worst post I've read in ages

>>18454627
at this point, its not even gambling, i will just buy spy calls at previous highs and wait

>>18454570
actually not a bad video

just wish he had brought up that even if there's a 99.5% chance you survive corona it's still not a pleasant experience and you can get permanent lung damage.
also if you take up space in the hospital as a non-critical patient it still reduces the capability of the hospital to treat other non-corona-related stuff

>>18454655
>uhh my eceleb has been attention whoring for two decades, that makes them based not gay!

Kill yourself bro

>>18454445
Yeah I know it's a good point because for me the real value is what a stock can give to the society
The store of value has been proved everytime to be a dumb meme
But you can't say that Google is not a ''value'' for the world
So we can have value / store of value in stocks- Why not.
For me sp 500 has been a store of value

>>18454708
nah the point is he's been making shit longer than you've been alive, and was cracking my shit up in middle school, "kid"

>>18453113
>headquarters: Shanghai, China
dropped.

what does this chart mean

>>18454621
>>18454655
go drink milk from your mom faggots

>>18454568
WTF is wrong with chinks?

>>18454938
drawing trend lines on charts is the equivalent of reading chicken bones for the future